Re: [Finale] Back up

2005-09-05 Thread Karen
I too have subscribed to iDisk. I really like it. I mostly use iDisk to get files to people that are too big to e-mail. I use a program called FileChute http://www.yellowmug.com/filechute/ which make this really easy for the recipient of the files. Basically, the recipient gets an e-mail

Re: [Finale] Back up

2005-09-05 Thread A-NO-NE Music
Christopher Smith / 2005/09/05 / 06:58 PM wrote: >Something around CDN$30 a month, or about the same as my home phone >line or my cable internet connection. Obviously, one would need to use >it quite a bit to get $30/month worth of value from it, which I am not >sure I would. Ooo, no. $99.95

Re: [Finale] Back up

2005-09-05 Thread Darcy James Argue
It's not a monthly fee -- at least, not in the US. Here, it's $100 US/ year. - Darcy - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brooklyn, NY On 05 Sep 2005, at 6:58 PM, Christopher Smith wrote: On Sep 5, 2005, at 5:48 PM, David W. Fenton wrote: On 5 Sep 2005 at 16:46, Christopher Smith wrote: I checked

Re: [Finale] Re: file overwrite bug

2005-09-05 Thread Darcy James Argue
Simon -- Fin2k5 or 2k6? I understand the file overwrite bug has nothing to do with extracted parts, but the part extraction process is the one time where I typically have multiple Finale documents open, so it's the only time I normally run into this problem. - Darcy - [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: [Finale] Back up

2005-09-05 Thread Christopher Smith
On Sep 5, 2005, at 5:48 PM, David W. Fenton wrote: On 5 Sep 2005 at 16:46, Christopher Smith wrote: I checked it out for the free thirty-day period, but haven't paid my subscription fee yet, and am not sure that I will just yet. It sounds like a really great service, and typically for Apple

Re: [Finale] Re: file overwrite bug

2005-09-05 Thread Simon Troup
>I haven't come across it so far. But I haven't worked with extracted >parts in 2k6 yet. > >> I think we discussed this before, but I have forgotten again: is >> the File Overwrite Bug still present in 2k6? I suffered a file overwrite the other day with two documents open, had nothing to do w

Re: [Finale] Back up

2005-09-05 Thread Dean M. Estabrook
Ah ... thank you. Dean On Sep 5, 2005, at 1:46 PM, Christopher Smith wrote: On Sep 5, 2005, at 2:21 PM, Dean M. Estabrook wrote: Uh, what is iDisk? Dean It's a service offered by Apple that you pay a subscription fee for. You have an icon that appears on your desktop that looks like

Re: [Finale] Re: Making Engraver Slurs fixed

2005-09-05 Thread Johannes Gebauer
On 22:51 Uhr shirling & neueweise wrote: johannes, given your concern for the quality of EPS over TIF i find it strange that you use the OSX built-in PDF printer, isn't it like 600 dpi? or less? It is full support for vector graphics. With Finale files that means it is as good as a direct PS

Re: [Finale] Making Engraver Slurs fixed

2005-09-05 Thread Eric Dussault
Coudln't you go in scoll view to select them all and do it in one operation? Le 05-09-05 à 16:14, Johannes Gebauer a écrit : Sure, but you'd still have to do it for each page. The main problem is the time it takes Finale to move the slurs one pixel up and down again, plus having to do it f

Re: [Finale] Making Engraver Slurs fixed

2005-09-05 Thread Johannes Gebauer
On 22:45 Uhr dhbailey wrote: I could imagine a plug-in which would do it automatically for all smart-shape slurs, so that we wouldn't have to drag-enclose all of the enclosures on each page, so that a 20-page score would entail 20 such drag-enclose, up-arrow/down-arrow actions. No drag enc

Re: [Finale] Back up

2005-09-05 Thread David W. Fenton
On 5 Sep 2005 at 16:46, Christopher Smith wrote: > I checked it out for the free thirty-day period, but haven't paid my > subscription fee yet, and am not sure that I will just yet. It sounds like a really great service, and typically for Apple, well- designed and implemented (according to your d

Re: [Finale] Re: Making Engraver Slurs fixed

2005-09-05 Thread Eric Dussault
Does it matter if the content is vector-based only? Resolution is important when images in others come from other formats, but as the are scalable as vectors without loosing quality, it doesn't seem to me that resolution has anything to do with Finale- produced pdf's. The printer's resolution

Re: [Finale] Making Engraver Slurs fixed

2005-09-05 Thread dhbailey
Christopher Smith wrote: On Sep 5, 2005, at 11:06 AM, Johannes Gebauer wrote: I had this problem before, and somehow I seem to remember there was a better solution: Engraver slurs are too unreliable in PDFs, so to make them stay put, do I really have to go to each page, select all in the sma

Re: [Finale] Making Engraver Slurs fixed

2005-09-05 Thread Noel Stoutenburg
When, responding to Christopher Smith, who wrote, in part Hard to imagine a plugin that would operate more easily than what you just described. Johannes aroused my curiosity with his response: Not hard at all: I just had to do this for a 63 page score. You have to select all, arrow-up, arr

Re: [Finale] Re: file overwrite bug

2005-09-05 Thread Darcy James Argue
I haven't come across it so far. But I haven't worked with extracted parts in 2k6 yet. - Darcy - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brooklyn, NY On 05 Sep 2005, at 4:40 PM, Johannes Gebauer wrote: I think we discussed this before, but I have forgotten again: is the File Overwrite Bug still present in

[Finale] Re: Making Engraver Slurs fixed

2005-09-05 Thread shirling & neueweise
johannes, given your concern for the quality of EPS over TIF i find it strange that you use the OSX built-in PDF printer, isn't it like 600 dpi? or less? on a related note, does anyone know how to find out just what the resolution of a PDF file is? i have acrobat standard 7, can access an

[Finale] Re: file overwrite bug

2005-09-05 Thread shirling & neueweise
From: Christopher Smith As I mentioned once, I haven't seen it yet even in 2005 that I know of... now you know... i'm still on 2005. -- shirling & neueweise \/ new music notation specialists mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] :.../ http://newmusicnotation.com __

Re: [Finale] Re: file overwrite bug

2005-09-05 Thread Christopher Smith
On Sep 5, 2005, at 4:40 PM, Johannes Gebauer wrote: I think we discussed this before, but I have forgotten again: is the File Overwrite Bug still present in 2k6? Um, jef might know, if he is on 2006. I didn't note which version he was on when he saw it most recently. As I mentioned once

Re: [Finale] Back up

2005-09-05 Thread Christopher Smith
On Sep 5, 2005, at 2:21 PM, Dean M. Estabrook wrote: Uh, what is iDisk? Dean It's a service offered by Apple that you pay a subscription fee for. You have an icon that appears on your desktop that looks like a blue crystal ball, but behaves just like another disk drive, except that the a

Re: [Finale] Re: file overwrite bug

2005-09-05 Thread Johannes Gebauer
I think we discussed this before, but I have forgotten again: is the File Overwrite Bug still present in 2k6? Johannes -- http://www.musikmanufaktur.com http://www.camerata-berolinensis.de ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu

Re: [Finale] Back up

2005-09-05 Thread Johannes Gebauer
On 21:28 Uhr Dennis Bathory-Kitsz wrote: It's worth it, and I can give you instructions (privately, since I do this for a living) on how to recover them completely for enough time (about 7-10 days) to copy them onto another medium. I meant, it is probably not worth it, because the recordings

Re: [Finale] Making Engraver Slurs fixed

2005-09-05 Thread Darcy James Argue
Johannes, What I meant was that I think you could make an iKey sequence that would also advance the page at the end of the sequence (cmd-page down), and then repeat the sequence until all pages have been processed. If you did it right, you could run it in the background while you worked o

Re: [Finale] Re: Making Engraver Slurs fixed

2005-09-05 Thread Johannes Gebauer
On 22:10 Uhr shirling & neueweise wrote: i wonder if this has to do with ghostview (i seem to remember that is what you use?), i've never had problems with this with acrobat standard. No, I use the MacOs X built in PDF engine. It doesn't actually have anythign to do with this, it will happe

Re: [Finale] Re: file overwrite bug

2005-09-05 Thread Darcy James Argue
On 05 Sep 2005, at 4:19 PM, shirling & neueweise wrote: From: Darcy James Argue <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ... the most recently autosaved version of your conductor score is probably okay. you know, for some reason i had not actually thought of that... which is stupid, i mean that's why i'm u

Re: [Finale] Making Engraver Slurs fixed

2005-09-05 Thread Christopher Smith
On Sep 5, 2005, at 3:21 PM, Johannes Gebauer wrote: On 19:02 Uhr Christopher Smith wrote: Hard to imagine a plugin that would operate more easily than what you just described. Not hard at all: I just had to do this for a 63 page score. You have to select all, arrow-up, arrow-down, wait seve

Re: [Finale] Making Engraver Slurs fixed

2005-09-05 Thread Johannes Gebauer
On 21:24 Uhr Darcy James Argue wrote: I haven't tried it yet, but it seems like you could create an iKey sequence that would do what you want. Sure, but you'd still have to do it for each page. The main problem is the time it takes Finale to move the slurs one pixel up and down again, plus

Re: [Finale] Back up

2005-09-05 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 09:19 PM 9/5/05 +0200, Johannes Gebauer wrote: >Actually the Ampex problem was, as far as I know, unique to that one >type of Analogue Audio tapes (although very widespread, and we lost a >whole collection of reel tapes - I guess we could bake them but it's not >worth the effort, I guess). I

[Finale] Re: Making Engraver Slurs fixed

2005-09-05 Thread shirling & neueweise
From: Johannes Gebauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Engraver slurs are too unreliable in PDFs i wonder if this has to do with ghostview (i seem to remember that is what you use?), i've never had problems with this with acrobat standard. -- shirling & neueweise \/ new music notation

[Finale] Re: file overwrite bug

2005-09-05 Thread shirling & neueweise
From: Darcy James Argue <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ... the most recently autosaved version of your conductor score is probably okay. you know, for some reason i had not actually thought of that... which is stupid, i mean that's why i'm using autosave in the first place. i got all excited after read

Re: [Finale] Making Engraver Slurs fixed

2005-09-05 Thread Darcy James Argue
Johannes, I haven't tried it yet, but it seems like you could create an iKey sequence that would do what you want. - Darcy - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brooklyn, NY On 05 Sep 2005, at 3:21 PM, Johannes Gebauer wrote: On 19:02 Uhr Christopher Smith wrote: Hard to imagine a plugin that would o

Re: [Finale] Back up

2005-09-05 Thread Dean M. Estabrook
Thanks Darcy .. as noted, I just started using Burnagain, but I think I'll be looking aroudn for an external HD. When you say the price of Toast, for example, how much are you talking about? Thanks, Dean On Sep 5, 2005, at 11:42 AM, Darcy James Argue wrote: Dean, If you're going to ba

Re: [Finale] RE: Making Engraver Slurs fixed

2005-09-05 Thread Johannes Gebauer
On 20:44 Uhr Michael Good wrote: To do this, the plug-in developer would need to replicate Finale's engraver slur positioning algorithm. This would probably be a pretty costly endeavor. Sorry not to have better news. We looked into doing this here for the same reasons you mention. Could this

Re: [Finale] Making Engraver Slurs fixed

2005-09-05 Thread Johannes Gebauer
On 19:02 Uhr Christopher Smith wrote: Hard to imagine a plugin that would operate more easily than what you just described. Not hard at all: I just had to do this for a 63 page score. You have to select all, arrow-up, arrow-down, wait several seconds if there are many slurs, then go to the

Re: [Finale] Back up

2005-09-05 Thread Johannes Gebauer
On 18:01 Uhr Simon Troup wrote: Agreed again! I don't know if anyone else remembers having to bake multitrack tapes in the oven to try and rescue them (ampex in our case, I don't remember how widespread the problem was) - it seems totally satonishing now, but in a studio I worked in we had to c

Re: [Finale] Back up

2005-09-05 Thread David W. Fenton
On 5 Sep 2005 at 14:42, Darcy James Argue wrote: > If you're going to back up files one at a time, then get an external > FW or USB 2 hard drive. CD-R is only really useful if you're going > to back up 650-700 MB of data at once. CD-RW requires third-party > software to rewrite without wiping

[Finale] RE: Making Engraver Slurs fixed

2005-09-05 Thread Michael Good
Hi Johannes, > do I really have to go to each page, select all in the smart shape > tool and press up-arrow then down-arrow? I'm afraid so. > Any chance someone could make a plugin which can change all > slurs into non-engraver slurs without loosing their > positioning? To do this, the plug-i

Re: [Finale] Back up

2005-09-05 Thread Dean M. Estabrook
Uh, what is iDisk? Dean On Sep 5, 2005, at 7:09 AM, Christopher Smith wrote: On Sep 5, 2005, at 9:19 AM, A-NO-NE Music wrote: Now I backup the entire 600MB+ Finale file directory to iDisk every 5 AM automatically. I have lost no file so far :-) iDisk is wonderful for that, and for

[Finale] Burn Again

2005-09-05 Thread Dean M. Estabrook
Yea Listers .. Once again the efficacy of our list has been reaffirmed, and your collective wisdom has illuminated my path. I have downloaded Burnagain, and have successfully (cautiously optimistic) burned multiple files on a CDRW. Thank you for your multiple responses, and the celerity

Re: [Finale] Back up

2005-09-05 Thread Dean M. Estabrook
Very good info ... thank you. Dean On Sep 5, 2005, at 2:24 AM, Johannes Gebauer wrote: Use multisession burning. I am not sure whether OS X provides this by default, but there are different applications out there which do a better job. Personally I use Toast, which costs money. But there

Re: [Finale] Back up

2005-09-05 Thread Darcy James Argue
Dean, If you're going to back up files one at a time, then get an external FW or USB 2 hard drive. CD-R is only really useful if you're going to back up 650-700 MB of data at once. CD-RW requires third-party software to rewrite without wiping the disk first, and for the price of, e.g.,

Re: [Finale] Back up

2005-09-05 Thread Dean M. Estabrook
Yes, I tried both kinds ... the CD-RW first. Dean On Sep 4, 2005, at 10:55 PM, Rick Neal wrote: Did you make sure the disk itself is a CD-RW disk as opposed to a regular CD-R disk? Dean M. Estabrook wrote: Ok, guys, I'm sorry, but I'm still confused (a congenital condition, I assure yo

Re: [Finale] Back up

2005-09-05 Thread Dean M. Estabrook
Thanks, I'll check it out. Dean On Sep 5, 2005, at 12:29 AM, Eric Fiedler wrote: Dean, There's a small shareware program called BurnAgain (I believe the first verstion was called "burn it again Sam"!), which you can use to burn multiple sessions to a normal CD-R disk (http:// freeridecodi

Re: [Finale] Back up

2005-09-05 Thread Simon Troup
>What? You are not seriously suggesting that CD-Rs or Tapes are safer >than external backup HDs, which are only connected and running while the >backup is doing its thing? I agree wholeheartedly with Johannes, I've lost a few important things from CDs that failed despite adequate storage. If I

Re: [Finale] Making Engraver Slurs fixed

2005-09-05 Thread Christopher Smith
On Sep 5, 2005, at 11:06 AM, Johannes Gebauer wrote: I had this problem before, and somehow I seem to remember there was a better solution: Engraver slurs are too unreliable in PDFs, so to make them stay put, do I really have to go to each page, select all in the smart shape tool and press u

[Finale] Making Engraver Slurs fixed

2005-09-05 Thread Johannes Gebauer
I had this problem before, and somehow I seem to remember there was a better solution: Engraver slurs are too unreliable in PDFs, so to make them stay put, do I really have to go to each page, select all in the smart shape tool and press up-arrow then down-arrow? If this is truly the case, any c

Re: [Finale] Back up

2005-09-05 Thread Johannes Gebauer
On 15:19 Uhr A-NO-NE Music wrote: In my case, files backed up to external HDs are equally venerable, not to mention HD shouldn't be a preferred backup media because of its limited shelf life. What? You are not seriously suggesting that CD-Rs or Tapes are safer than external backup HDs, which

Re: [Finale] Back up

2005-09-05 Thread Christopher Smith
On Sep 5, 2005, at 9:19 AM, A-NO-NE Music wrote: Now I backup the entire 600MB+ Finale file directory to iDisk every 5 AM automatically. I have lost no file so far :-) iDisk is wonderful for that, and for synchronising files easily between two computers (say, my home and my school comput

Re: [Finale] Back up

2005-09-05 Thread A-NO-NE Music
I have a thing about Finale backup. Being a Finale user since 1987 with v1.0 ($1,000!), I have lost a lot of Finale files. They magically disappear from current directory as well as backup volumes, and you don't notice it until you need it again, which in my case usually a few years later when I

[Finale] Final Kall for K&D Komposer Kombat

2005-09-05 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
Hi all, This is a final call for composers to participate in Komposer Kombat, taking place on K&D's last radio show on September 17! The preliminary electroacoustic rounds will be September 16 at 9am and noon. The preliminary acoustic round will September 17 at 9am. We have a fine ensemble to do

Re: [Finale] US copyright question - now editions

2005-09-05 Thread Johannes Gebauer
On 10:57 Uhr dc wrote: I've never heard of anything like a "typographical copyright" in France, but I'm no expert on these questions. By the way, I'm very intrigued by Swiss law on copyright, after reading in a _facsimile_ of a public domain work (Rousseau's Dictionnaire de musique): WARNIN

Re: [Finale] Back up

2005-09-05 Thread Johannes Gebauer
Use multisession burning. I am not sure whether OS X provides this by default, but there are different applications out there which do a better job. Personally I use Toast, which costs money. But there are Free- and Shareware solutions, too. The downside: CDs are not really made for this kind

Re: [Finale] Back up

2005-09-05 Thread Eric Fiedler
Dean, There's a small shareware program called BurnAgain (I believe the first verstion was called "burn it again Sam"!), which you can use to burn multiple sessions to a normal CD-R disk (http://freeridecoding.net/burnagain). Alternatively, you could invest in the excellent programm "Toast" fr

Re: [Finale] US copyright question - now editions

2005-09-05 Thread Johannes Gebauer
On 2:44 Uhr Noel Stoutenburg wrote: I think it was supposed to, but has not completely succeeded. For example, while Germany, and I presume, France, appears (based upon Johannes statements) to treat typographical copyrights the same as the copyright to the composition Don't base it on my sta