Re: [Finale] Playback in transposed scores while entering notes

2011-01-08 Thread Steve Parker
I can't argue with the fact that people seem to want it the way it is! I still don't understand why. If you want the pitch to line up with midi entry then a C score seems the way to go, rather than audio a tone or a fifth etc. wrong. I also mostly don't use a midi keyboard for entry, just the

Re: [Finale] Playback in transposed scores while entering notes

2011-01-08 Thread Raymond Horton
On Sat, Jan 8, 2011 at 5:01 AM, Steve Parker st...@pinkrat.co.uk wrote: I can't argue with the fact that people seem to want it the way it is! No one on this list wants to use it the way it is. Some argue that others may. All of us want a new option. Raymond Horton Bass Trombonist,

Re: [Finale] Playback in transposed scores while entering notes

2011-01-08 Thread Steve Parker
I thought that James and Darcy wanted to use it as is. Steve P. On 8 Jan 2011, at 14:57, Raymond Horton wrote: On Sat, Jan 8, 2011 at 5:01 AM, Steve Parker st...@pinkrat.co.uk wrote: I can't argue with the fact that people seem to want it the way it is! No one on this list wants to use

Re: [Finale] Microtonal Playback

2011-01-08 Thread Steve Parker
Has anyone achieved quarter-tone playback by this method? I have no interest in 24ET but if you've managed that then I should be able to at least get further than I have. Thanks, Steve P. On 7 Jan 2011, at 22:47, Steve Parker wrote: Hi Guys, I've been writing in Ben Johnston's notation

Re: [Finale] Playback in transposed scores while entering notes

2011-01-08 Thread Christopher Smith
Steve, I'm sure you meant that in the reverse. Pressing a C into an transposed alto sax part would sound as an Eb. You must have meant input A, hear C. Am I right? Because what you ask for is easily obtained by just turning on Display In Concert Pitch, then turning it off once input is done.

Re: [Finale] Playback in transposed scores while entering notes

2011-01-08 Thread Christopher Smith
On Sat Jan 8, at SaturdayJan 8 9:57 AM, Raymond Horton wrote: On Sat, Jan 8, 2011 at 5:01 AM, Steve Parker st...@pinkrat.co.uk wrote: I can't argue with the fact that people seem to want it the way it is! No one on this list wants to use it the way it is. Some argue that others may.

Re: [Finale] Playback in transposed scores while entering notes

2011-01-08 Thread Steve Parker
Hi Christopher, you are of course correct. I want to hear a C if I input an A.. Steve P. On 8 Jan 2011, at 15:31, Christopher Smith wrote: Steve, I'm sure you meant that in the reverse. Pressing a C into an transposed alto sax part would sound as an Eb. You must have meant input A, hear

Re: [Finale] Microtonal Playback

2011-01-08 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
I did quarter-tones, but it was 15 years ago. It worked then with a Proteus Orchestral keyboard but required lots of hidden-layer stuff. But I can't advise, only note that I did get it to work. I don't have the hardware anymore and I also don't run microtonal playback with Finale anymore because

Re: [Finale] Playback in transposed scores while entering notes

2011-01-08 Thread Steve Parker
So, all options would be good! I'll try to explain the problem as it manifests for me: Sometimes I'll enter say some violin, then switch to Bb Clarinet, enter a D written, hear a D concert, automatically delete the D written and replace with a C written, hear the correct pitch (concert C),

Re: [Finale] Microtonal Playback

2011-01-08 Thread Steve Parker
It's nice to have an answer! It is definitely easier to get it played and it's not crucial that I hear it. It just seemed that it may now be possible with Finale's actually pretty wonderful Key Sig tool and Scala files for Garritan. The Scala retuning actually works well but only for one

Re: [Finale] Playback in transposed scores while entering notes

2011-01-08 Thread Raymond Horton
All of us want an OPTION on transposed Speedy entry. No one is asking to take the present behavior away. While on the subject of options, I'd like to make any options like this switchable: semi-permanently. What I'm thinking of is this: in the playback controls window, one has the option to

Re: [Finale] Microtonal Playback

2011-01-08 Thread Steve Parker
Being slightly clearer.. What I (and most other JI composers) want could be achieved by either: Garritan allowing more than twelve notes per octave from the Scala files (which do support this). OR Finale's Key Sig tool assigning an amount of pitch bend to each accidental. It gets very

Re: [Finale] Playback in transposed scores while entering notes

2011-01-08 Thread Christopher Smith
On Sat Jan 8, at SaturdayJan 8 11:12 AM, Raymond Horton wrote: While on the subject of options, I'd like to make any options like this switchable: semi-permanently. What I'm thinking of is this: in the playback controls window, one has the option to Always start playback at the beginning,

Re: [Finale] Microtonal Playback

2011-01-08 Thread Steve Parker
A more general question.. Is it possible to save the non-standard key signatures I've created so that they are available to any piece? Steve ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale

Re: [Finale] Playback in transposed scores while entering notes

2011-01-08 Thread Christopher Smith
On Sat Jan 8, at SaturdayJan 8 11:12 AM, Raymond Horton wrote: All of us want an OPTION on transposed Speedy entry. No one is asking to take the present behavior away. I'm afraid that if I don't say it, it might be taken away, like so many other things I came to count on. MakeMusic says

[Finale] RE: Playback in transposed scores while entering notes

2011-01-08 Thread David Froom
Gosh, what I've started... To sum up, many of us would love to have this as an option. Display in concert pitch is not a great option for me, because if one is thinking in transposed pitch, the eye and the ear get out of whack that way. There are dozens of reasons for writing and thinking

Re: [Finale] Microtonal Playback

2011-01-08 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
On Sat, January 8, 2011 11:32 am, Steve Parker wrote: Is it possible to save the non-standard key signatures I've created so that they are available to any piece? File, Save Library, check Key Signatures. Later File, Load Library. (I've found that older libraries don't load reliably into new

[Finale] default file

2011-01-08 Thread Steve Parker
If you make this change to your default file, it will always be there. This is a pretty basic question on my part.. Do most start from a 'new default' document then add the title info and instruments after? Steve P. ___ Finale mailing list

Re: [Finale] Microtonal Playback

2011-01-08 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
On Sat, January 8, 2011 11:18 am, Steve Parker wrote: Being slightly clearer.. What I (and most other JI composers) want could be achieved by either: Garritan allowing more than twelve notes per octave from the Scala files (which do support this). OR Finale's Key Sig tool

Re: [Finale] Microtonal Playback

2011-01-08 Thread Steve Parker
Thanks! Just one of the basic things I'd still not got to. Steve P. On 8 Jan 2011, at 17:07, Dennis Bathory-Kitsz wrote: On Sat, January 8, 2011 11:32 am, Steve Parker wrote: Is it possible to save the non-standard key signatures I've created so that they are available to any piece?

Re: [Finale] Playback in transposed scores while entering notes

2011-01-08 Thread James Cooper
What I was saying is not as it is now (to the best of my knowledge). While displaying the transposed parts (not C score), I would be interested in being able to play the SOUNDING pitch on the midi keyboard, not the transposed pitch, but have the transposed pitch appear on the screen. And I would

Re: [Finale] Playback in transposed scores while entering notes

2011-01-08 Thread Steve Parker
This seems to be yet a different option required! To play an A, hear an A, but have a Bb Clarinet B appear. I would be happy with this for MIDI entry I think, but for laptop entry it would be kludgy (which is NOT what you're suggesting anyhow). Steve P. On 8 Jan 2011, at 17:56, James Cooper

Re: [Finale] Playback in transposed scores while entering notes

2011-01-08 Thread marcellon...@gmail.com
Il 08/01/2011 2.45, Darcy James Argue ha scritto: Hi Steve, If your preferred behavior were the default, many people would also not understand why, when they play a C on their MIDI keyboard when inputting into an alto sax staff, Finale instead sounds an A. And, if they have the volume turned

Re: [Finale] Microtonal Playback

2011-01-08 Thread Steve Parker
I've played a bit with this method. The big drawback is needing to cancel the pitch bend after each instance with another expression. Finale is so close in already allowing any number of written accidentals between diatonic pitches and also a different number for each if wanted. Steve

Re: [Finale] Playback in transposed scores while entering notes

2011-01-08 Thread Steve Parker
I understand this but, for a lot of us, looking at scores with parts transposed one does imagine the real sound. Steve P. On 8 Jan 2011, at 17:47, marcellon...@gmail.com wrote: Looking at director's scores with parts already transposed does not give me to me the real sound. My two cents,

Re: [Finale] Microtonal Playback

2011-01-08 Thread dershem
On 1/8/2011 9:56 AM, Steve Parker wrote: I've played a bit with this method. The big drawback is needing to cancel the pitch bend after each instance with another expression. Finale is so close in already allowing any number of written accidentals between diatonic pitches and also a different

Re: [Finale] RE: Playback in transposed scores while entering notes

2011-01-08 Thread Florence + Michael
Whether I work with a C score or a transposed one depends on the source I'm using: If I'm given a C score to transcribe, I'll enter the music in a C score. If I'm given a transposed score, I'll enter the music in a transposed score. When I'm working with a transposed score, I would much prefer

{Spam} Re: [Finale] default file

2011-01-08 Thread Noel Stoutenburg
Steve Parker wrote: This is a pretty basic question on my part.. Do most start from a 'new default' document then add the title info and instruments after? I generally use templates I've created myself, containing my preferences for fonts, and the expressions and articulations I need. If

Re: [Finale] default file

2011-01-08 Thread Christopher Smith
I put my favourite default files in the Component Files folder, then they show up when I use the Setup Wizard as a style. Christopher On Sat Jan 8, at SaturdayJan 8 12:04 PM, Steve Parker wrote: If you make this change to your default file, it will always be there. This is a pretty basic

Re: {Spam} Re: [Finale] default file

2011-01-08 Thread Steve Parker
Thanks Chris and Noel! I moved to Finale a couple of years ago from being a long time beta tester for a now defunct program. I hit the ground running but I'm doing far too much over and over again... I've created a document with my 'house' style and all the other things I change. I've

[Finale] title and instrument name on each page

2011-01-08 Thread Steve Parker
My last question for now I promise. Can I get Finale to place the title and instrument name on each page automatically? Thanks, Steve P. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale

{Spam} Re: [Finale] title and instrument name on each page

2011-01-08 Thread Aaron Sherber
On 1/8/2011 6:02 PM, Steve Parker wrote: Can I get Finale to place the title and instrument name on each page automatically? Sure. Use the text tool to put a text box on the page and define the attributes the way you want it (attach to single page, multiple pages, etc.). Then do Text |

Re: [Finale] default file

2011-01-08 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
On Sat, January 8, 2011 5:37 pm, Steve Parker wrote: What I really want is everything available all the time! You can pretty much have it. Create a document, add libraries, expressions, etc., set it up to your taste for tuplets, page numbers, measure numbers, orchestration, virtual instruments,

Re: [Finale] title and instrument name on each page

2011-01-08 Thread Chuck Israels
Yes, you can. There's an item in the File menu called File Info. You can set that up to have things appear where you want them on whatever pages you want in score and parts. You usually want those appearances to be different, so in your default document, you can set up the score with these

[Finale] {Spam} default file (another question)

2011-01-08 Thread Rafael L. Junchaya
I remember that the changes made in the default file applied also to the Setup Wizzard. I have changed the page sizes, in the score and parts, of the Maestro default file, also in the Engraver document style files, from Letter to A4, which we use here. I have also moved the A4-page size

Re: [Finale] title and instrument name on each page

2011-01-08 Thread mmathew1942
From the file menu go to the file info dialogue, place your information in the appropriate boxes, click OK, and place them in the document with the insert menu. The pages on which they appear and positioning can be set in the dialogue box for the text frame. Ask as many questions as you

Re: [Finale] title and instrument name on each page

2011-01-08 Thread Steve Parker
Thanks to all, Works great! Steve P. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale

Re: [Finale] title and instrument name on each page

2011-01-08 Thread dershem
On 1/8/2011 3:20 PM, Chuck Israels wrote: Yes, you can. There's an item in the File menu called File Info. You can set that up to have things appear where you want them on whatever pages you want in score and parts. You usually want those appearances to be different, so in your default

[Finale] {Spam} 6/9 chords

2011-01-08 Thread dershem
For whatever reason, when I type in a 6/9 chord [Example C6/9] it gives me something different [C6/G]. Why? How can I stop this happening? cd -- http://members.cox.net/dershem/index.html http://dershem.livejournal.com/ ___ Finale mailing list

Re: [Finale] title and instrument name on each page

2011-01-08 Thread Steve Parker
Well I'm working with linked parts, but now I've set it up it is automatic for score and all parts 'Title, Subtitle, Part Name, Page 3/6' On it's way to my template.. Steve P. On 9 Jan 2011, at 00:02, dershem wrote: Here's my question: Is there a way to have this set up in default parts?

Re: [Finale] {Spam} 6/9 chords

2011-01-08 Thread Steve Parker
Try entering C69 rather than 6/9. You may be happy with what it looks like, otherwise you will need to define a new chord. Steve P. On 9 Jan 2011, at 00:18, dershem wrote: For whatever reason, when I type in a 6/9 chord [Example C6/9] it gives me something different [C6/G]. Why? How can

Re: [Finale] Playback in transposed scores while entering notes

2011-01-08 Thread David W. Fenton
On 8 Jan 2011 at 11:12, Raymond Horton wrote: All of us want an OPTION on transposed Speedy entry. Er, no, all of us don't want the option. I couldn't care less as I never do the kinds of scores where it's an issue. I have no objection to the option being added, but I don't actually WANT the

Re: [Finale] Playback in transposed scores while entering notes

2011-01-08 Thread David W. Fenton
On 8 Jan 2011 at 9:57, Raymond Horton wrote: On Sat, Jan 8, 2011 at 5:01 AM, Steve Parker st...@pinkrat.co.uk wrote: I can't argue with the fact that people seem to want it the way it is! No one on this list wants to use it the way it is. Some argue that others may. All of us want a

Re: [Finale] {Spam} default file (another question)

2011-01-08 Thread Steve Parker
I tried to do this for some weeks.. Even deleting all other options still didn't do it. Related to this is that if I have say a string quartet set to 'always use a selected style' that includes A4, it needs reselecting in the Wizard in order to not be US Letter size. Steve On 8 Jan 2011,

Re: [Finale] title and instrument name on each page

2011-01-08 Thread Chuck Israels
Carl, Greg Hamilton (former student and now copyist/engraver in Vancouver, BC) set up my templates for me on a visit one day. I watched him do it, and can figure it out, but if you want to contact me off the list, perhaps the best/easiest way to solve your problem is for me to send you a

Re: [Finale] {Spam} 6/9 chords

2011-01-08 Thread Christopher Smith
When I type 69 it comes out as 6/9, which is perfectly fine with me. I may have made it this way about ten years ago and import this suffix library into every new version of Finale. so maybe I knew something back then that I have forgotten about making chords typeable. Christopher On Sat Jan

Re: [Finale] {Spam} default file (another question)

2011-01-08 Thread Florence + Michael
The Setup Wizard should open with the page size defined in the default Document Style. Also, if you have changed the page size in any particular Document Style, you should see this page size automatically selected when you select that style in the list on the first page of the Setup Wizard.