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Last year or so a different sort of paper cutter from the guillotine
type was recommended. I thought I had archived the message but can't
find it now. Can any of you tell me what that was? I need to cut down
small quantities of 11 x 17 paper and card stock.
Thanks '
Raymond Horton
Bass
?
--
Certainly!
Respighi _Pines of Rome_ last movement.
Many, many of them.
Raymond Horton
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version) (1924), An American in Paris (1928)
Louis Armstrong: Hot Five and Hot Seven recordings of 1925-28
submitted by
Raymond Horton
Darcy James Argue wrote:
Just taking a little straw poll here: what do listers consider the
best pieces of music to come out of the 1920's? Genre is unimportant
On 08 Mar 2005, at 11:04 PM, Raymond Horton wrote:
Gershwin: Rhapsody in Blue (preferably original version, not the
orchestral version)
Darcy James Argue wrote:
Funny you should mention that... I've actually been looking for a modern
recording of the original orchestration -- you wouldn't
Very interesting. I forwarded it to Trombone-L
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Christopher Smith wrote:
...
A complete aside:
The chamber orchestration by John Rea of Wozzeck, which I mentioned
previously as having a killer trombone part, was played in British
Colombia
Thanks for the info. I had heard of that strike but not as completely
as you write.
Wasn't there also heavy taxing of larger bands in clubs after the war
that also helped the rise of small combos? Perhaps that was just in NYC?
RBH
Daniel Wolf wrote:
The James Petrillo-led AFM strike
At 7:56 PM -0500 3/11/05, Raymond Horton wrote:
Thanks for the info. I had heard of that strike but not as
completely as you write.
Wasn't there also heavy taxing of larger bands in clubs after the war
that also helped the rise of small combos? Perhaps that was just in
NYC?
John Howell wrote
- bar
9! Gave me a serious chuckle.
Raymond Horton
Bass Trombonist,
Louisville Orchestra
Jim Williamson wrote:
It may not define form and I don't care. However, I've seen it that way a
million times and I like it.
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Tremendous! Enjoyed that immensely!
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Bob Florence wrote:
Are there any books concerning composing and arranging that cover the
spiritual and inspirational aspect. I am always interested in the way
other writers get there music off of the launching pad. I not
concerned about what harmonies to use or what instruments to combine. I
David W. Fenton wrote:
On 11 Apr 2005 at 15:29, tim-cates wrote:
On Apr 11, 2005, at 3:21 PM, David W. Fenton wrote:
On 11 Apr 2005 at 16:04, Christopher Smith wrote:
I would expect a more secular discussion from an international forum
such as this.
really? I would expect civility
David W. Fenton wrote:
The word spirituality is completely debased in modern discourse, by
New Age loonies on the one side and by fundamentalist morons on the
other.
For a glimpse into the religious-political world of we
non-fundamentalist (non-moron) Christians, I heartily recommend: a look
interview with Puccini.
Darcy James Argue wrote:
Come now, in the quoted comment, Brahms was full of shit, and since
Raymond Horton nonetheless quoted him approvingly, David was quite
right to call him out on that.
If Brahms had said No Jew has ever been or will be a great composer
Darcy James Argue wrote:
On 11 Apr 2005, at 8:41 PM, Raymond Horton wrote:
OK, if you approve, not only of David's disagreeing with Brahms
(nothing wrong with that) but of the less-than-civil tone of his
disagreement, (which takes it to a different level) than I will ask
you to provide
Johannes Gebauer wrote:
Raymond Horton schrieb:
OK, if you approve, not only of David's disagreeing with Brahms
(nothing wrong with that) but of the less-than-civil tone of his
disagreement, (which takes it to a different level) than I will ask
you to provide an example of a truly great
exactly this kind of
bigoted assertion for centuries, and the Brahms quote Raymond Horton
cited was precisely in that tradition of irrational bigotry -- so it's
hardly surprising that such a citation might offend the secularists on
this list (many of whom, it should go without saying, happen
Florence + Michael wrote:
Apparently Brahms did have something to say about women composers. Can
anybody give me a serious source for this quote, found in a German
musical calendar with no bibliographical references:
Es wird dann erst eine Komponistin geben, wenn der erste Mann ein
Kind zur
something about how some
geniuses composed. What more could you want?
RBH
jef chippewa wrote:
From: Raymond Horton
Actually, for anyone who cares to actually READ the book before
categorically rejecting what Brahms and the others have to say based
on a few small excerpts...
thing is, that was how
David W. Fenton wrote:
Raymond Horton écrit:
During some quick research Internet yesterday when I couldn't
answer
the question myself, it would appear that Stravinsky, for example,
may have been an atheist as a young man (the three great ballets)
and experienced a conversion during
for
me to do is to just play 2nd and not say anything about it.
Raymond Horton
Bass Trombonist,
Louisville Orchestra
Dennis Bathory-Kitsz wrote:
At 10:34 AM 5/2/05 -0400, John Howell wrote:
If they're essentially homophonic, one staff should work. If they
have independent rhythms, two staves
it to tenor clef).
(Signing off to try GPO with the new DIMS (now up to 2 Gig total) that
just arrived on my doorstep. I'm so excited!)
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Sure, send both. I'll give you my email privately. My son is quite
accomplished, although not really a history buff on the instrument, but
I see knowledgeable bass players daily who may know the work. Please
give the full context again, as i was dozing the first time around.
Once, as a
David W. Fenton wrote:
If the 15ba performance is forced on modern players by the notes
available to them, then I really think they oughtn't play the damned
thing! It really does sound that bad!
I seriously doubt this. Modern bass players can play things that bass
players 200 years ago
in one continuous install. I chose the option to install
everything when given the choice, early in the installation procedure.
Perhaps Garritan is now selling GPO without the Extra Programs disk?
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(occasional arranger, composer)
Louisville Orchestra
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I know that it is generally felt that one should not, in the best of
company, use half rests in 3/4 time. How about 6/4?
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in a published work,
but it is a rule that is often broken. I don't know if this is the same
type of situation.
Please don't let me down this time, folks!
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Chuck Israels wrote:
On Jun 29, 2005, at 6:45 PM, David W. Fenton wrote:
(the I want to live in America effect
I don't remember how Bernstein wrote this, but I'd write it with one
combined time signature 6/8 and 3/4 and think that that was pretty
clear. It seems cluttered to change
You are correct that the question was answered, once, but I was hoping
for a consensus. Thanks for the summary.
RBH
Darcy James Argue wrote:
On 29 Jun 2005, at 9:28 PM, Raymond Horton wrote:
And, so far, my question hasn't been answered with any degree of
consensus by the experts
It is quite proper to use a 3/2 bar in the middle of a 4/4 work, using a
quarter note pulse, with the intention of keeping the quarter note pulse
but the 3/2 divided 2+2+2. This is done quite correctly and frequently,
not constantly.
But that does not keep it from being very confusing to the
to internet search engines.
Searchable online list archives benefit everyone.
If you're *that* concerned about copyright, then don't post here.
- Darcy
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Fourthed. Much ado about not too much.
- Raymond Horton
for any help.
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Joel Sears wrote:
In a jazz context, "That band really sucks" means a band that's so bad
it can't blow. No other meaning.
Joel Sears
On Jul 14, 2005, at 6:15 AM, dhbailey wrote:
Okay, what's the term for words which are originally antonyms but
which in certain situations mean
GPO will include string harmonics. On
the website, it looks like the Garritan Orchestral Strings does not,
though. Does anyone know?
Raymond Horton
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Darcy James Argue wrote:
Oh, oops. I guess that wasn't offlist after all... Sorry, MakeMusic
people...
- Darcy
Well, the whole cat should be out of the bag soon, right? It sounds
exciting. (BTW, David Froom was the one who asked the question, but
thanks for the info anyway!).
RBH
In the USAF band in the late '50s, one's instrument was referred to
as one's axe for no discernable reason,
It was (still is?) widespread jazz terminology--like gig.
Still is.
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Perhaps, but that might be supposing too much. I would think it's just
a term for a tool of the trade. (Personally, I heard axe years before
I ever heard of woodshedding.)
RBH
dhbailey wrote:
Raymond Horton wrote:
In the USAF band in the late '50s, one's instrument was referred
I know a percussionist who talks about keeping his chops in shape.
RBH
Not a clue as to the origins of 'ax' in any case.
Well, is chops a clue?
Maybe... but then what happens when you're talking about sax players?
;)
Are you saying sax players don't have chops??
John Bell wrote:
On 22 Jul 2005, at 01:50, Chuck Israels wrote:
Association spokeswoman Amy Lear said the group
enacted the rule two years ago because of concerns
that girls auditioning for tenor parts were hurting
their voices by singing too low.
If these old wives tales were true, more
... Eustazio was also a castrato originally. (I think the part is cut
altogether in later edition.)
mdl
Ouch!
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Perhaps, but about 1966 or 67 I remember that the NY Phil still had but
one female non-harpist (a bass player).
Raymond Horton
Louisville Orchestra
John Howell wrote:
At 6:02 PM -0400 7/23/05, David W. Fenton wrote:
I remember reading somewhere recently about the change in orchestras
, and was always grateful to get back to Finale.)
Raymond Horton
Bass Trombonist
arranger, composer
Louisville Orchestra
Dan Carno wrote:
At 12:02 PM 7/28/2005, you wrote:
Of course, if you don't care about playback, then these features may
not be of interest, but most users do care about
why. I still visit the old machine (err, and my daughter,
too, of course), and the pieces I wrote on that machine sound better on
it that any other setup. But I'd have to say that, overall, GPO has
passed it in quality by mile.
Raymond Horton
David W. Fenton wrote:
...
And let me say
this in the pre-GPO past for putting a flute double in a
piccolo staff. )
Hope this helps!
Raymond Horton
Bass Trombonist
occasional arranger, composer
Louisville Orchestra
Darcy wrote:
In GPO Full, these keyswitches are always in the octave immediately
below the lowest playable note
.
Raymond Horton,
Bass Trombonist,
Louisville Orchestra
Jonathan Smith wrote:
Keeping up the 'Beautiful sound' I'm sure!
I know Tyler Turner plays Euph and Peter Wilson who used to post to
the list a while back.
Just for interest, any other Euphonium players out there?
And while we're
walking through the door for some strange
reason).
Anyone have an idea when I might receive it?
Raymond Horton
For everyone on the edge of their chair (you're out there, right?) I
found out the answer to my own question. For some reason or another, my
on-line order had not gone through, and MM
Hi Dean,
Is that the compensating one with four front action valves? I was
investigating that one for a handicapped student I had, who couldn't use
his left hand.
Ray
Dean M. Estabrook wrote:
Yes, I have a lovely Wilson (sp?) Canadian Brass model, but I don't
play it nearly enough.
My appologies - thought I sent this as private.
Hi Dean,
Is that the compensating one with four front action valves? ...
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At 11:44 AM -0400 6/28/06, Raymond Horton wrote:
The arms race is true in orchestras, but can be much more true in
live pop and jazz. ..
About ten or 12 years ago, the Tempataions did a pair of outdoor
concerts with us. They had synths doubling all the orchestra parts
at , and sound
editor on The Lord of the Rings movies, for example.
Unfortunately, there is a move afoot to dumb it down some. More news later.
Raymond Horton
John Howell wrote:
At 12:46 PM -0400 7/26/06, Raymond Horton wrote:
Sorry, John, I've been in and out of town and away from computers
part
trombone part anywhere with
that limit.
We are discussing full GPO, right? (Not the reduced Fnale GPO, which
doesn't even have a bass trombone.)
Raymond Horton
David Froom wrote:
Hello,
Does anyone know why the GPO bass clarinet only goes down to C# (sounding
B)? I thought any bass
with an
appropriate pitchwheel expression, plus another (hidden) expression
to reset the pitchwheel afterwards.
- Darcy
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On 31 Jul 2006, at 11:49 PM, Raymond Horton wrote:
This is but one of many range peculularities
David Froom wrote:
And Raymond, good luck with your new/old boss! The return of Mester! Maybe
this will be combined with the return of better times? You guys have really
been through a rough patch.
David Froom
That news certainly traveled fast! It was in local papers this morning,
in the 90s? Paul's
straight-faced response: There are only 17,000 three-letter
acronyms. (To be exact, there are 26^3 = 17,576.) ...
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Hope this clears it up!
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Check the instrument name. It must have illegal characters in it, such
as a slash.
RBH
Skip Lombardi wrote:
I hope someone is reading this list now. I'm trying to extract parts
for a big-band rehearsal this evening, and I'm getting an error
message, Cannot create file name' for three
dc wrote:
David W. Fenton écrit:
I think it should be reported to MakeMusic as a bug, as there's no
excuse for Finale the program to use an algorithm that does *not*
check that the filenames it produces are valid before attempting to
write them. Either it should tell the user it can't do it,
Mine also.
RBH
Don Hart wrote:
FYI my copy of Finale '07 just shipped out today. I hadn't noticed anything
here or elsewhere confirming that event.
Some of you will probably get it before me but I just wanted to let everyone
know that the product is shipping.
Don Hart
-- Forwarded
Thanks, Randolph! Very helpful.
RBH
Randolph Peters wrote:
Jari Williamsson is no longer part of this list (unfortunately) but
his new review of Finale 2007 can be found here:
http://www.finaletips.nu/fin2007review/index.php
-Randolph Peters
). Should I try again and install the Adobe
Acrobat Reader that comes with Fin 2007 or stick with Foxit Reader?
I have plenty of hard drive space, so that is not really the concern,
just conflicting programs and options.
Thanks for any advice received!
Raymond Horton
for any advice received!
Raymond Horton
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Ray,
The Finale GPO is useful if you need
that
the brilliance of this list would give me some certainty before
continuing. I'll have to cancel Setup before going to bed! (Either
that or find a spine and make some of my own decisions, heaven forbid.)
RBH
Raymond Horton wrote:
I'm in the process of installing FinWin2007 right now, but I've paused
Thanks to Darcy, David Bailey, Tyler, Eric, and Jim for your answers.
RBH
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Select: Options Document Options Fonts Notation Noteheads Then
scroll and selct a notehead font that you have, probably
EngraverFontSet or Maestro. Default size is 24 regular. Click
OK, and that should fix it.
Hope this helps!
Raymond Horton
Brad Nelson wrote:
HELP!! I have
Richard Yates wrote:
The Fin2K7 brochure says that a feature of linked parts is Show different
enharmonic spellings between the score and part.
Can someone explain to me how this would ever be a useful feature?
Richard Yates
If you had a concert pitch score, you might want to simply
John Howell wrote:
At 12:15 AM -0400 8/15/06, Raymond Horton wrote:
Richard Yates wrote:
The Fin2K7 brochure says that a feature of linked parts is Show
different
enharmonic spellings between the score and part.
Can someone explain to me how this would ever be a useful feature?
Richard
John Howell wrote:
At 12:48 PM -0400 8/16/06, Raymond Horton wrote:
Yes, but all of those should be enharmonically changed in both the
score and the parts.
I would ordinarily agree, but I'm not sure it's true in this case. (Or
that it isn't!!)
In the case of parts, you are changing
John Howell wrote:
I really appreciate the comments on this question, and I am learning
from them, but I just realized something. Every one of us, even those
of us who know better, are assuming that 20th century bane, equal
temperament. In any other tuning or temperament, G# and Ab are
Richard, in FinWin 2006c I was able to grab the bottom one with the
Selection tool (arrow) and then delete all three. Same with 2005.
Sometimes it takes several attempts, though. I haven't installed 2007
yet.
RBH
Richard Yates wrote:
I have a file with a text expression assigned to
the understanding is present in reader )
Actually, we used to have an Executive Director who used to try hard to
get us listed and announced all the time as _The_ Louisville
Orchestra. It was quite important to him. He's a gardener now (true).
The Raymond Horton
The Bass Trombonist
Louisville Orchestra
.
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.
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Darcy James Argue wrote:
Hi all,
I'm basically fed up with my Ricoh AP2610 and I'm looking for a
possible replacement.
The major problem is that on my heavyweight parts paper (100# offset
-- the equivalent of 40 lb. bond), the duplexer jams at least 50% of
the time, rendering
right no matter what I do, but I'm probably done with that
anyway - we recorded it from the TIFs the day after I wrote it.
Sigh...
Thanks for all who offered advice.
RBH
dhbailey wrote:
Raymond Horton wrote:
I requested help for this WinFin 2007 printing strangeness last week
but received
tray.
Cheers,
- Darcy
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On 29 Nov 2006, at 12:44 AM, Raymond Horton wrote:
I like my Ricoh AP2610 very much. I don't own the duplexer, and I
don't use the bypass tray for large paper, or even for letter-sized
paper. For double-sided printing, no matter
The Full GPO player can record to WAV, and then it can be easily
converted to MP3 using Audacity or any other utility. Works beautifully.
I don't have experience with the reduced Finale-GPO - much too limited.
Raymond Horton
Dean M. Estabrook wrote:
So, as Darcy said, you can't get
for about 80 bucks and
an 8 GB for about $120, so I went for the latter. My jaw dropped open
when I put the sucker in and saw over 7,000 pictures available!
I did manage to take 1100 in a week, counting many duplicates to make
up for my shaky hands. Many were great!
Raymond Horton
copying the files from my old
computer and that does not work, either.
Thanks for any help offered.
Raymond Horton
rayhorton (at) insightbb (dot) com
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that to my web page, will it play back with GPO quality
(Full GPO or FinGPO)?
Dean
On Nov 29, 2006, at 7:47 PM, Raymond Horton wrote:
The Full GPO player can record to WAV, and then it can be easily
converted to MP3 using Audacity or any other utility. Works
beautifully.
I don't have
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In a message dated 30/11/2006 17:10:27 GMT Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
So, as I just asked Darcy privately, if I convert the WAV file to
MP3, and upload that to my web page, will it play back with GPO
quality
It should do, yes, within the
Darcy James Argue wrote:
On 30 Nov 2006, at 12:38 PM, Raymond Horton wrote:
Use the GPO Studio Record function. The Finale save special does
not record GPO.
Yes, it does. It has since Finale 2006a.
Cheers,
- Darcy
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How do I get it to do that on my computer, pray tell? When I use
Which symphony by Sofia Gubaidulina? Is it the one written for the Louisville
Orchestra? I could tell you a story about that work.
Raymond Horton
Bass Trombonist
Louisville Orchestra
Will Denayer wrote:
Dear All,
Thank you very much for helping me out. I will buy more memory if possible
recommendation!
Louisville Orchestra LCD006
Raymond Horton
Bass Trombonist,
Louisville Orchestra
Will Denayer wrote:
Aaron, thank you very much, you are a big help. These little things help me so much. I really appreciate.
Raymond, no. The symphony I am talking about is Stimmen ... Verstummen
basically learned to play on that piece, as a beginning euphonium
player.)
Raymond Horton
Bass Trombonist,
Louisville Orchestra
Williams, Jim wrote:
Dean...
This was done with GPO, Finale GPO (for a couple extra clarinets) and
JABB for saxes...
http://www.esnips.com/doc/4e925e9d-a874
in Win2007 print correctly.
Thanks for any suggestions (beyond my solution, which is stick to 2006...)
Raymond Horton
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Hilarious! Thanks!
RBH
Christopher Smith wrote:
Sorry for this, but it was too funny, especially for those with some
pop/folk sensibilities.
Christopher
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JdxkVQy7QLM
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, perhaps, but the one-on-a part B Minor Mass is
just silly.
Raymond Horton
David W. Fenton wrote:
On 16 Jan 2007 at 19:23, Johannes Gebauer wrote:
On 16.01.2007 Kim Patrick Clow wrote:
Payroll records weren't the only way to figure out how many
musicians performed at concerts, the number
So McCreesh's instinctive feeling trumps the evidence of Bach's 12
voice choir, plus his preference for a larger one?
RBH
Kim Patrick Clow wrote:
On 1/16/07, Raymond Horton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Rifkin got some attention with his project, and got the musical world
thinking
about smaller
I just remember an article after the first Rifkin recording that settled
the issue as far as I was concerned. If I am wrong, I'm wrong. My
instinctive feeling is that I am not!
RBH
Kim Patrick Clow wrote:
On 1/16/07, Raymond Horton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
So McCreesh's instinctive
by those who still claim Joshua
was wrong.
This is certainly obvious in my case. I read the original exchange and
thought it was over. I defer. I'll try to get time to look at some of
the recent research before I open my mouth again.
Raymond Horton
How do you want this phrased, Henry? As a thank you, or what?
Ray Horton
Henry E. Howey wrote:
Friends,
As an American academic I must once again prove to people who administer
my activities that I remain a worthy recipient for their largesse.
To that end I solicit your input OFFLIST as to
tedious.
Thank you for any help offered.
Raymond Horton
Bass Trombonist, occasional composer, arranger
Louisville Orchestra
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Not Vista - whatever comes right before - Windows ME, I think?
(Is Vistaa out yet?)
RBH
Fisher, Allen wrote:
Do you happen to be running Vista?
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2007
XP, that's it! I new ME didn't sound right.
RBH
David W. Fenton wrote:
On 24 Jan 2007 at 17:08, Raymond Horton wrote:
Not Vista - whatever comes right before - Windows ME, I think?
Windows ME is not whatever comes right before Vista. The immediate
predecessor to Vista is Windows
This reminds me. Once when I emailed Gary, he asked about sampling me,
but I never got back to him. Can this happen, hundreds of miles away?
Ray Horton
Bass Trombonist
Louisville Orchestra
Darcy James Argue wrote:
Hi Chuck,
I hadn't thought of replacing the low E string with a low B
) is to stop using the accursed 2007 and go back to 2006.
It works.
Raymond Horton
Bass Trombonist, arranger, composer
Louisville Orchestra
dhbailey wrote:
Oliver Pospiech wrote:
Please, who can help me? Does anybody know this behaviour of finale
(2006c
WinXP):
blocked::http://www.oliver
This sounds to me, already, like a dumb question, but here goes anyway:
Is there any guideline established as to how much I can quote of a
copyrighted piece of music without getting into trouble?
I know that there are guidelines for broadcast, but are there any for
compositional
.
Raymond Horton
Louisville Orchestra
Christopher Smith wrote:
On Mar 4, 2007, at 1:00 AM, Raymond Horton wrote:
This sounds to me, already, like a dumb question, but here goes anyway:
Is there any guideline established as to how much I can quote of a
copyrighted piece of music without
any cash. I could offer them like 5% or 10% of the
profits, telling them (a) there might not be any, and (b) they will have
to trust me.
Thanks greatly for any advice offered.
Raymond Horton
Louisville Orchestra
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I got sick.
Andrew Stiller wrote:
I protracted an extended illness.
Contracted. I contracted an extended illness. Or maybe I contracted
a protracted illness :-
Andrew Stiller
Kallisti Music Press
http://www.kallistimusic.com/kallisti.html
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in the 1800s at the latest. )
Thanks,
RBH
dhbailey wrote:
Raymond Horton wrote:
[snip]
Do I need her permission to use her versions of these old,
traditional tunes?
Two of her homemade CDs which she sells are labeled: copywrite (sic)
19xx (no circle c). A third CD is more commercial
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