Re: [Flashcoders] ActionScript syntax enhancements?
Take a look to the haXe compiler that is doing it already: http://haxe.org/doc/features Specially compiler features (conditional compilation, etc) and language features (enums, etc). Cheers! Juan On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 12:11 AM, Weyert de Boer w...@innerfuse.biz wrote: In Delphi and C# I used it to get RTTI information. ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders -- Juan Delgado - Zárate http://zarate.tv http://blog.zarate.tv ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
[Flashcoders] Class syntax question...
Hi cool list,
I want to make a Class that contains MotionBlur methods that I can call like
this: MotionBlur.coordBlur(mc, 1.5);
I have other classes wich I don't initiate and just call static methods from.
The MotionBlur class looks like this:
public class MotionBlur
{
public function MotionBlur()
{
// empty, never initiated
}
public static function coordBlur( mc :MovieClip, blurFactor
:Number = 1.5 ) :void
{
// calculate blur and apply blur setting to mc
}
public static function clearBlur(mc :MovieClip ) :void
{
// clear blur setting on mc
}
}
Ideally I want to use this through TweenMax like this:
TweenMax.from(mc, .4, {
alpha: 0, x: 1500, delay: 2, ease: Back.easeOut,
onUpdate: MotionBlur.coordBlur,
onUpdateParams: [mc, 1.5],
onComplete:
MotionBlur.clearBlur, onCompleteParams: [mc], overwrite: false
} );
But I get the following error: (even if I just call the method outside tweenmax
like this MotionBlur.coordBlur(chick, 2);)
1120: Access of undefined property MotionBlur.
I'm not quit sure what is going wrong here... does anyone see something strange
that I'm totally missing?
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Re: [Flashcoders] Class syntax question...
On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 4:13 PM, Sander Schuurman sander.schuur...@oswaldandruby.com wrote: I want to make a Class that contains MotionBlur methods that I can call like this: MotionBlur.coordBlur(mc, 1.5); [snip] But I get the following error: (even if I just call the method outside tweenmax like this MotionBlur.coordBlur(chick, 2);) 1120: Access of undefined property MotionBlur. I don't see anything wrong with your code. You've probably put your class into a package (?), in which case you'll have to import it. import my.package.MotionBlur; The compiler is unable to find the class. Manish ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] ActionScript syntax enhancements?
On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 4:34 AM, Ian Thomas i...@eirias.net wrote:
On Tue, Jan 6, 2009 at 10:53 PM, Manish Jethani
manish.jeth...@gmail.com wrote:
The first enhancement I can think of is a language extension called
'properties'.
private var _myProperty:int = 0;
public function get myProperty():int
{
return _myProperty;
}
public function myProperty(value:int):void
{
_myProperty = value;
}
This pattern is so common, it could be a language feature.
public property myProperty:int = 0;
Manish - why not just write:
public var myProperty:int=0;
It has exactly the same effect!
Oh, but it doesn't!
A public variable is different from a property. A property is really
part of a component's interface. It can be overridden by subclasses.
With a property, you can do this:
override public function get myProperty():int
{
return someCondition ? customMyProperty : super.myProperty;
}
A property can be declared as part of an interface.
interface IMyInterface
{
function get myProperty():int;
function set myProperty(value:int):void;
}
All classes that implement IMyInterface are required to have a
read-write myProperty property.
I almost never use public or protected variables in my code, unless
it's dumb data class (like a struct in C).
Manish
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[Flashcoders] Patrick Jakub Jankun added you as a connection on Plaxo
Hi Flashcoder, Patrick Jakub Jankun wants to add you as a connection on Plaxo. To accept this connection request, go to: http://www.plaxo.com/invite?i=56225383k=804845241l=ensrc=emailet=1est=nolevelsetv=nnic1b2el=en Thanks! The Plaxo team More than 20 million people use Plaxo to keep in touch with the people they care about. Don't want to receive emails from Plaxo any more? Go to: http://www.plaxo.com/stop?src=emailet=1est=nolevelsetv=nnic1b2el=en ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
RE: [Flashcoders] ActionScript syntax enhancements?
You may want to look at the haxe language and compiler which already does what
you're trying to do and see if you can compete with that - or at least find out
what it does that you would like to do - this thread may be better suited for
the osflash list only because this is the kind of thing they talk about and
have lots of expertise on over there.
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[mailto:flashcoders-boun...@chattyfig.figleaf.com] On Behalf Of Matthias Kramm
Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 5:30 PM
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Subject: [Flashcoders] ActionScript syntax enhancements?
Hi All,
I'm currently in the process of writing a compiler for
ActionScript 3.0.
(In case you're interested, the development snapshot at
http://www.swftools.org/download.html already contains
a pre-alpha command-line tool, called as3compile(.exe))
Now, I'm thinking about adding an extended mode to this
compiler, which will support some additional convenience
features which are not currently part of the ECMA spec.
Right now, ideas on my list are things like [a,b,c,] or
{a:b, c:d, e:f, } array/object declarations (allowing the
trailing comma makes it easier to shift elements around
especially for multi-line structures), try/catch/else,
for/else, and keyword arguments (functioncall(x=3,y=4)).
I'd be interested to know what other syntax extensions you
can think of that would make life easier for you when
you're writing ActionScript?
Greetings
Matthias
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RE: [Flashcoders] Class syntax question...
If you want to use a class like this:
MyClass.myMethod(myargs)
Then the myMethod function in MyClass should be defined as static. So instead
of:
public class MotionBlur
{
public static function coordBlur(mc:MovieClip, blurFactor:Number = 1.5)
{
//logic here
}
}
And there is no need for the constructor, since you're not using it in the
class, and the class is meant to have all static members.
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[mailto:flashcoders-boun...@chattyfig.figleaf.com] On Behalf Of Sander Schuurman
Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 5:44 AM
To: Flash Coders List
Subject: [Flashcoders] Class syntax question...
Hi cool list,
I want to make a Class that contains MotionBlur methods that I can call like
this: MotionBlur.coordBlur(mc, 1.5);
I have other classes wich I don't initiate and just call static methods from.
The MotionBlur class looks like this:
public class MotionBlur
{
public function MotionBlur()
{
// empty, never initiated
}
public static function coordBlur( mc :MovieClip, blurFactor
:Number = 1.5 ) :void
{
// calculate blur and apply blur setting to mc
}
public static function clearBlur(mc :MovieClip ) :void
{
// clear blur setting on mc
}
}
Ideally I want to use this through TweenMax like this:
TweenMax.from(mc, .4, {
alpha: 0, x: 1500, delay: 2, ease: Back.easeOut,
onUpdate: MotionBlur.coordBlur,
onUpdateParams: [mc, 1.5],
onComplete:
MotionBlur.clearBlur, onCompleteParams: [mc], overwrite: false
} );
But I get the following error: (even if I just call the method outside tweenmax
like this MotionBlur.coordBlur(chick, 2);)
1120: Access of undefined property MotionBlur.
I'm not quit sure what is going wrong here... does anyone see something strange
that I'm totally missing?
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[Flashcoders] asdoc inheritance from built-in class
Hi, I generated a doc for a single class with the asdoc tool from the SDK and I found out that I dont get the properties, methods and events from the super class: http://www.soundstep.com/blog/source/somatext/docs/ For instance, I dont see the link: show inherited properties I can see with other doc I've generated: http://www.soundstep.com/blog/source/baseuiv3/docs/ If my class extend a custom class, I get everything but it seems in my case it is not working because my class extend flash.text.TextField (maybe because it is a built-in class) I tried @inheritDoc before the class, but not working... Any hint to get correctly the inheritance from a built-in super class? Romu www.soundstep.com ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] Patrick Jakub Jankun added you as a connection on Plaxo
Sorry I have to rant. For such an elite group of coders, this email format is really annoying. It's probably an old issue but isn't there simply a flashcoders forum like Kirupa and flashkit? It's so much easier to keep threads together, search for recurrent questions and style code samples. /rant On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 9:00 AM, Patrick Jakub Jankun pu...@mx.plaxo.comwrote: Hi Flashcoder, Patrick Jakub Jankun wants to add you as a connection on Plaxo. To accept this connection request, go to: http://www.plaxo.com/invite?i=56225383k=804845241l=ensrc=emailet=1est=nolevelsetv=nnic1b2el=en Thanks! The Plaxo team More than 20 million people use Plaxo to keep in touch with the people they care about. Don't want to receive emails from Plaxo any more? Go to: http://www.plaxo.com/stop?src=emailet=1est=nolevelsetv=nnic1b2el=en ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders -- --Joel Stransky stranskydesign.com ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] Patrick Jakub Jankun added you as a connection on Plaxo
On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 9:31 PM, Joel Stransky stranskydes...@gmail.com wrote: Sorry I have to rant. For such an elite group of coders, this email format is really annoying. It's probably an old issue but isn't there simply a flashcoders forum like Kirupa and flashkit? It's so much easier to keep threads together, search for recurrent questions and style code samples. I don't think the email format is annoying -- email rules. I think the invitations from Plaxo are annoying. It would be nice to have the archives publicly available and searchable though. $0.02 Manish ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
[Flashcoders] Thoughts on new features in CS4
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Re: [Flashcoders] Patrick Jakub Jankun added you as a connection onPlaxo
- Original Message - From: Joel Stransky stranskydes...@gmail.com To: p...@jankun.org; Flash Coders List flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 4:01 PM Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Patrick Jakub Jankun added you as a connection onPlaxo Sorry I have to rant. For such an elite group of coders, this email format is really annoying. It's probably an old issue but isn't there simply a flashcoders forum like Kirupa and flashkit? It's so much easier to keep threads together, search for recurrent questions and style code samples. /rant You may well rant, but I like it as it is. ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] ActionScript syntax enhancements?
On Wed, Jan 07, 2009 at 09:27:06AM -0500, Merrill, Jason jason.merr...@bankofamerica.com wrote: You may want to look at the haxe language and compiler which already does what you're trying to do and see if you can compete with that haxe is a nifty project. But they're inventing their own language, which is only similar to (and not quite identical with) ActionScript. My goal is to be fully compatible with the ActionScript compiler in Flash CS4 and Flex, but hopefully produce smaller output files (Flex's code generator, in particular, is producing somewhat bloated bytecode right now) and also offer the aforementioned syntax enhancements. Btw.: Thanks for all the great suggestions so far! Greetings Matthias ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] Patrick Jakub Jankun added you as a connection on Plaxo
I actually like this, as it make it easier to search through the messages for a word or phrase; as well, it makes it so sharing of code and files is a lot easier as they do not need to be stored by some dude's server. I would love it if it had code highlighting, an built in hinting when going through the messages. Kind of like integrating flash develop with outlook or thunderbird... now that would be cool. Joel Stransky wrote: Sorry I have to rant. For such an elite group of coders, this email format is really annoying. It's probably an old issue but isn't there simply a flashcoders forum like Kirupa and flashkit? It's so much easier to keep threads together, search for recurrent questions and style code samples. /rant On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 9:00 AM, Patrick Jakub Jankun pu...@mx.plaxo.comwrote: Hi Flashcoder, Patrick Jakub Jankun wants to add you as a connection on Plaxo. To accept this connection request, go to: http://www.plaxo.com/invite?i=56225383k=804845241l=ensrc=emailet=1est=nolevelsetv=nnic1b2el=en Thanks! The Plaxo team More than 20 million people use Plaxo to keep in touch with the people they care about. Don't want to receive emails from Plaxo any more? Go to: http://www.plaxo.com/stop?src=emailet=1est=nolevelsetv=nnic1b2el=en ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] Thoughts on new features in CS4
From an animator's perspective it as some nice new features; yet, from a coder's perspective I hate it. Even when forced to do timeline code, I still write the code in flashdevelop and then paste it in later, unless it is a very very small chunk. At the very least they could have given dreamweaver some advanced code editing and IDE integration features that make Actionscript development easier. Another gripe I have is with the HTML templates available in the flash IDE, and flash detection that doesn't always work in firefox, ... they are s outdated; why not provide users with the capability to easily make their own templates and pick and choose multiple features instead of one or the other? Why not just integrate dreamweaver and flash together completely? or provide photoshop features in illustrator? The company is profit, not results and quality, oriented. They don't care enough about users to make one application that does everything, or an app that integrates extremely easily with another feature set if purchased; for, they don't think like that. SOA and tight integration is what they should be focusing on; yet, why would they when there current model has made them rich? Wendy Serrell wrote: I was reading this blog post: http://visualrinse.com/2009/01/05/2008-in-review-flash-platform-shortcomings / And one of the commenters wrote, New features in Flash Player 10 - e.g. 3D, bones and hardware acceleration - were all a massive let down and basically useless. I haven't downloaded CS4 yet, but I was wondering if other people felt the same way, and why (or why not). Wendy ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
RE: [Flashcoders] Thoughts on new features in CS4
Anthony, I'm going out on a limb and guessing that the why don't they just make it all one app that does everything suggestion has been around longer than you've been alive. Don't lose any sleep over that one. :-D - MM They don't care enough about users to make one application that does everything, or an app that integrates extremely easily with another feature set if purchased; for, they don't think like that. ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
[Flashcoders] free online flash books at the toronto public library...
Free books available to library card holders in Toronto through safari online. Awesome... I just had a read through keith peters' making things move. It is totally great; yet, I wish it was more recent and used the features available in the new flash player. Apparently a lot of libraries have this contract set up, so you should check to see if your library has it too. Almost their entire lineup is available. I am just assuming that they don't put their best sellers on the list right away; however, their are books that were just published a few months ago. They don't have university level text books available though; for that I have to go to one my university libraries to read old copies if available; however, they do have certification texts that usually cost around $100.00 per book. ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] free online flash books at the toronto public library...
I just read the message and realized that, for someone that frequents the library, my spelling and sentence structure, outside of my essays, is not all that grand. Anthony Pace wrote: Free books available to library card holders in Toronto through safari online. Awesome... I just had a read through keith peters' making things move. It is totally great; yet, I wish it was more recent and used the features available in the new flash player. Apparently a lot of libraries have this contract set up, so you should check to see if your library has it too. Almost their entire lineup is available. I am just assuming that they don't put their best sellers on the list right away; however, their are books that were just published a few months ago. They don't have university level text books available though; for that I have to go to one my university libraries to read old copies if available; however, they do have certification texts that usually cost around $100.00 per book. ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
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Re: [Flashcoders] free online flash books at the toronto public library...
Good job you are only reading the books then :-) Anthony Pace wrote: I just read the message and realized that, for someone that frequents the library, my spelling and sentence structure, outside of my essays, is not all that grand. Anthony Pace wrote: Free books available to library card holders in Toronto through safari online. Awesome... I just had a read through keith peters' making things move. It is totally great; yet, I wish it was more recent and used the features available in the new flash player. Apparently a lot of libraries have this contract set up, so you should check to see if your library has it too. Almost their entire lineup is available. I am just assuming that they don't put their best sellers on the list right away; however, their are books that were just published a few months ago. They don't have university level text books available though; for that I have to go to one my university libraries to read old copies if available; however, they do have certification texts that usually cost around $100.00 per book. ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
[Flashcoders] as2 bitmapdata dispose() issue
hi guys
should be a quickie for someone
i've got a bitmapdata object which is being written to by a quickie drawing
api that i wrote. It works absolutely great. The problem is that when i
.dispose() of the attached bitmap, i cannot write to it any more
i've tried recreating it but with no joy - i really hope you can help
code
var mcBitmap: MovieClip = this.mcBitmap;
var bmp:BitmapData= new BitmapData(169, 136, true, 0x00);
this.onMouseDown = startDrawing;
this.onMouseUp = stopDrawing;
function setupClearButton():Void
{
mcClearButton.onRelease = function():Void
{
bmp.dispose(); // clears the bmp
bmp = new BitmapData(169, 136, true, 0x00); // tried to
reinstantiate the bitmapdata but it doesn't work
}
}
function startDrawing():Void
{
setLineStyle(); // set linestyle to current style
var point:Object = {x:_xmouse, y:_ymouse}; // object to be used with
globalToLocal to change to local coordinates
mcDrawing.globalToLocal(point);
mcDrawing.moveTo(point.x, point.y);
this.onMouseMove = function():Void
{
var point:Object = {x:_xmouse, y:_ymouse}; // object to be used
with globalToLocal to change to local coordinates
mcDrawing.globalToLocal(point);
mcDrawing.lineTo(point.x, point.y);
}
}
}
function setLineStyle():Void
{
mcDrawing.lineStyle(nLineWeight, nCurrentColour, nLineAlpha);
}
function stopDrawing():Void
{
delete this.onMouseMove;
bmp.draw(mcDrawing); // copy user stroke to bmp BitmapData
mcDrawing.clear(); // clear user drawing
}
}
/code
thanks
alz
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[Flashcoders] re: as2 bitmapdata dispose() issue
ah never mind i got it code bmp.dispose(); bmp = new BitmapData(169, 136, true, 0x00); mcBitmap.attachBitmap(bmp, 1); /code thanks alz ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
[Flashcoders] design pattern diagrams...
I am looking to get more info on the composition of design patterns and which ones are used most often in the corporate world. Diagrams accompanied by code examples would be awesome. I have been able to find stuff in the past; yet, I really want to know what is generally preferred? I like to try and make things black box; however, it just seems illogical that things be black boxes all the time. when a person talks to another person the environment that they are in has to facilitate the communication; thus, if I have two objects instantiated in the same class and I want them to communicate with each other, I have to have a function in the main class or somewhere globally that allows those objects to communicate. How do I accomplish this without calling to the function in the parent? ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] ActionScript syntax enhancements?
I think another compiler with a focus on more efficient bytecode would be great, but those extra convenience features give me an uneasy feeling (embrace and extend has caused too many problems already). So, my feature request would be an export functionality to remove all those extra features from the code, where all comments and formatting would be kept intact, and a --vanilla compiler setting that enforces compliance with standard Adobe AS3 (better yet, a required --convenient setting to enable them). That way, there would be no fear of vendor lock-in or compatibility issues. Also, it might be a good idea to have a special suffix to indicate that it's special AS3 -- maybe some possible acronym for Action Script Special. :) haXe has an AS3 generator for that very reason. But, those fears aside, would it be possible to build on the work that was done for Alchemy and use LLVM to generate the bytecode? AFAIK, it has very good optimization already. According to the third post in this thread, it should be possible to use normal LLVM with AlchemyÄs llc binary: http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/webforums/forum/messageview.cfm?forumid=72catid=755threadid=1407226 Mark On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 5:28 PM, Matthias Kramm kr...@quiss.org wrote: On Wed, Jan 07, 2009 at 09:27:06AM -0500, Merrill, Jason jason.merr...@bankofamerica.com wrote: You may want to look at the haxe language and compiler which already does what you're trying to do and see if you can compete with that haxe is a nifty project. But they're inventing their own language, which is only similar to (and not quite identical with) ActionScript. My goal is to be fully compatible with the ActionScript compiler in Flash CS4 and Flex, but hopefully produce smaller output files (Flex's code generator, in particular, is producing somewhat bloated bytecode right now) and also offer the aforementioned syntax enhancements. Btw.: Thanks for all the great suggestions so far! Greetings Matthias ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] design pattern diagrams...
I'm only just starting to understand the concepts but AS3 Design Patterns is a great book (aside from being riddled with typo's) It's possible you want a Command Pattern for your issue but I'm not at a point where I can say for sure. On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 3:47 PM, Anthony Pace anthony.p...@utoronto.cawrote: I am looking to get more info on the composition of design patterns and which ones are used most often in the corporate world. Diagrams accompanied by code examples would be awesome. I have been able to find stuff in the past; yet, I really want to know what is generally preferred? I like to try and make things black box; however, it just seems illogical that things be black boxes all the time. when a person talks to another person the environment that they are in has to facilitate the communication; thus, if I have two objects instantiated in the same class and I want them to communicate with each other, I have to have a function in the main class or somewhere globally that allows those objects to communicate. How do I accomplish this without calling to the function in the parent? ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders -- --Joel Stransky stranskydesign.com ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
RE: [Flashcoders] design pattern diagrams...
I'm only just starting to understand the concepts but AS3 Design Patterns is a great book (aside from being riddled with typo's) Are you talking about the Joey Lott book on AS3 design patterns? Just curious as I was thinking of picking that one up. Jason Merrill Bank of America Instructional Technology Media · GCIB Staff Support LLD Interested in Flash Platform technologies? Join the Bank of America Flash Platform Developer Community Interested in innovative ideas in Learning? Check out the Innovative Learning Blog and subscribe. ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
RE: [Flashcoders] design pattern diagrams...
I think just a quick answer to your questions which may help a lot is to check into understanding MVC - the Model-View-Controller design pattern. Probably one of the most common pattern used and one that other coding design frameworks use as well for part of their operations. So there are also frameworks like Cairngorm which takes MVC and other patterns together and go a lot further, it has things like Commands to facilitate communication. But simple MVC using event listeners and dispatchers is probably the best place to start to get what you want to do going. Jason Merrill Bank of America Instructional Technology Media · GCIB Staff Support LLD Interested in Flash Platform technologies? Join the Bank of America Flash Platform Developer Community Interested in innovative ideas in Learning? Check out the Innovative Learning Blog and subscribe. -Original Message- From: flashcoders-boun...@chattyfig.figleaf.com [mailto:flashcoders-boun...@chattyfig.figleaf.com] On Behalf Of Anthony Pace Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 3:48 PM To: Flash Coders List Subject: [Flashcoders] design pattern diagrams... I am looking to get more info on the composition of design patterns and which ones are used most often in the corporate world. Diagrams accompanied by code examples would be awesome. I have been able to find stuff in the past; yet, I really want to know what is generally preferred? I like to try and make things black box; however, it just seems illogical that things be black boxes all the time. when a person talks to another person the environment that they are in has to facilitate the communication; thus, if I have two objects instantiated in the same class and I want them to communicate with each other, I have to have a function in the main class or somewhere globally that allows those objects to communicate. How do I accomplish this without calling to the function in the parent? ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
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Head First Design Patterns is very easy to pick up. No typos, lots and lots of pictures, illustrations and code examples. http://oreilly.com/catalog/9780596007126/?CMP=AFC-ak_bookATT=Head+First+Design+Patterns http://www.headfirstlabs.com/books/hfdp/ for a quick overview and a typical illustration http://oreilly.com/catalog/9780596007126/toc.pdf Read the section on the Observer Pattern. It might be what you are looking for. Merrill, Jason wrote: I think just a quick answer to your questions which may help a lot is to check into understanding MVC - the Model-View-Controller design pattern. Probably one of the most common pattern used and one that other coding design frameworks use as well for part of their operations. So there are also frameworks like Cairngorm which takes MVC and other patterns together and go a lot further, it has things like Commands to facilitate communication. But simple MVC using event listeners and dispatchers is probably the best place to start to get what you want to do going. Jason Merrill Bank of America Instructional Technology Media · GCIB Staff Support LLD Interested in Flash Platform technologies? Join the Bank of America Flash Platform Developer Community Interested in innovative ideas in Learning? Check out the Innovative Learning Blog and subscribe. -Original Message- From: flashcoders-boun...@chattyfig.figleaf.com [mailto:flashcoders-boun...@chattyfig.figleaf.com] On Behalf Of Anthony Pace Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 3:48 PM To: Flash Coders List Subject: [Flashcoders] design pattern diagrams... I am looking to get more info on the composition of design patterns and which ones are used most often in the corporate world. Diagrams accompanied by code examples would be awesome. I have been able to find stuff in the past; yet, I really want to know what is generally preferred? I like to try and make things black box; however, it just seems illogical that things be black boxes all the time. when a person talks to another person the environment that they are in has to facilitate the communication; thus, if I have two objects instantiated in the same class and I want them to communicate with each other, I have to have a function in the main class or somewhere globally that allows those objects to communicate. How do I accomplish this without calling to the function in the parent? ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
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Re: [Flashcoders] design pattern diagrams...
But I am trying to understand why you would go through all that trouble, when calling the function in the parent, if it is a very small application unlikely to be expanded upon, is so much simpler? maybe for code re-use in a bigger application sure; however, doesn't it seem weird that tightly woven and fast executing code is not prized anymore, and there is a preference for bloated object oriented frameworks? All in the name of making the development cycle smaller and thus less costly; yet, what about increased file size issues and decreased performance? More objects and more event listeners == less performance and higher memory usage in my understanding. Ron Wheeler wrote: Head First Design Patterns is very easy to pick up. No typos, lots and lots of pictures, illustrations and code examples. http://oreilly.com/catalog/9780596007126/?CMP=AFC-ak_bookATT=Head+First+Design+Patterns http://www.headfirstlabs.com/books/hfdp/ for a quick overview and a typical illustration http://oreilly.com/catalog/9780596007126/toc.pdf Read the section on the Observer Pattern. It might be what you are looking for. Merrill, Jason wrote: I think just a quick answer to your questions which may help a lot is to check into understanding MVC - the Model-View-Controller design pattern. Probably one of the most common pattern used and one that other coding design frameworks use as well for part of their operations. So there are also frameworks like Cairngorm which takes MVC and other patterns together and go a lot further, it has things like Commands to facilitate communication. But simple MVC using event listeners and dispatchers is probably the best place to start to get what you want to do going. Jason Merrill Bank of America Instructional Technology Media · GCIB Staff Support LLD Interested in Flash Platform technologies? Join the Bank of America Flash Platform Developer Community Interested in innovative ideas in Learning? Check out the Innovative Learning Blog and subscribe. -Original Message- From: flashcoders-boun...@chattyfig.figleaf.com [mailto:flashcoders-boun...@chattyfig.figleaf.com] On Behalf Of Anthony Pace Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 3:48 PM To: Flash Coders List Subject: [Flashcoders] design pattern diagrams... I am looking to get more info on the composition of design patterns and which ones are used most often in the corporate world. Diagrams accompanied by code examples would be awesome. I have been able to find stuff in the past; yet, I really want to know what is generally preferred? I like to try and make things black box; however, it just seems illogical that things be black boxes all the time. when a person talks to another person the environment that they are in has to facilitate the communication; thus, if I have two objects instantiated in the same class and I want them to communicate with each other, I have to have a function in the main class or somewhere globally that allows those objects to communicate. How do I accomplish this without calling to the function in the parent? ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] design pattern diagrams...
Well It's your job as a developer to be able to priorize one thing over another... development time, scalability, flexibility, speed, etc.It always depends on what It's more important for the project. Leandro Ferreira On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 9:16 PM, Anthony Pace anthony.p...@utoronto.cawrote: But I am trying to understand why you would go through all that trouble, when calling the function in the parent, if it is a very small application unlikely to be expanded upon, is so much simpler? maybe for code re-use in a bigger application sure; however, doesn't it seem weird that tightly woven and fast executing code is not prized anymore, and there is a preference for bloated object oriented frameworks? All in the name of making the development cycle smaller and thus less costly; yet, what about increased file size issues and decreased performance? More objects and more event listeners == less performance and higher memory usage in my understanding. Ron Wheeler wrote: Head First Design Patterns is very easy to pick up. No typos, lots and lots of pictures, illustrations and code examples. http://oreilly.com/catalog/9780596007126/?CMP=AFC-ak_bookATT=Head+First+Design+Patterns http://www.headfirstlabs.com/books/hfdp/ for a quick overview and a typical illustration http://oreilly.com/catalog/9780596007126/toc.pdf Read the section on the Observer Pattern. It might be what you are looking for. Merrill, Jason wrote: I think just a quick answer to your questions which may help a lot is to check into understanding MVC - the Model-View-Controller design pattern. Probably one of the most common pattern used and one that other coding design frameworks use as well for part of their operations. So there are also frameworks like Cairngorm which takes MVC and other patterns together and go a lot further, it has things like Commands to facilitate communication. But simple MVC using event listeners and dispatchers is probably the best place to start to get what you want to do going. Jason Merrill Bank of America Instructional Technology Media · GCIB Staff Support LLD Interested in Flash Platform technologies? Join the Bank of America Flash Platform Developer Community Interested in innovative ideas in Learning? Check out the Innovative Learning Blog and subscribe. -Original Message- From: flashcoders-boun...@chattyfig.figleaf.com [mailto: flashcoders-boun...@chattyfig.figleaf.com] On Behalf Of Anthony Pace Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 3:48 PM To: Flash Coders List Subject: [Flashcoders] design pattern diagrams... I am looking to get more info on the composition of design patterns and which ones are used most often in the corporate world. Diagrams accompanied by code examples would be awesome. I have been able to find stuff in the past; yet, I really want to know what is generally preferred? I like to try and make things black box; however, it just seems illogical that things be black boxes all the time. when a person talks to another person the environment that they are in has to facilitate the communication; thus, if I have two objects instantiated in the same class and I want them to communicate with each other, I have to have a function in the main class or somewhere globally that allows those objects to communicate. How do I accomplish this without calling to the function in the parent? ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] design pattern diagrams...
I will agree with you in that people that glibly swear by frameworks for every project annoy me and usually end up getting in the way of projects. I always sit down and approach each project individually, each one is unique and has different requirements. If it's something small and simple, why go through all the trouble to separate it out into an MVC or similar structure. However, some frameworks provide invaluable methods with working and implementing some solutions. This is where heirarchy and modularization comes in, when you build things that are not tightly coupled, it should be easy to only implement those things you need into your projects. In the long run, if you develop like this, you will find that you have put together quite an arsenal of classes and components to use and development will definitely be faster. We all know there are parts of projects or pieces of code we wrote back then, that would be awesome if we could just reuse (and we often do). Sometimes, this can be more of a pain in the ass than it should be because we hard coded everything, were being lazy, yadda yadda, you know the story. Just my 2 cents, sorry for the rambling. On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 3:26 PM, Leandro Ferreira dur...@gmail.com wrote: Well It's your job as a developer to be able to priorize one thing over another... development time, scalability, flexibility, speed, etc.It always depends on what It's more important for the project. Leandro Ferreira On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 9:16 PM, Anthony Pace anthony.p...@utoronto.ca wrote: But I am trying to understand why you would go through all that trouble, when calling the function in the parent, if it is a very small application unlikely to be expanded upon, is so much simpler? maybe for code re-use in a bigger application sure; however, doesn't it seem weird that tightly woven and fast executing code is not prized anymore, and there is a preference for bloated object oriented frameworks? All in the name of making the development cycle smaller and thus less costly; yet, what about increased file size issues and decreased performance? More objects and more event listeners == less performance and higher memory usage in my understanding. Ron Wheeler wrote: Head First Design Patterns is very easy to pick up. No typos, lots and lots of pictures, illustrations and code examples. http://oreilly.com/catalog/9780596007126/?CMP=AFC-ak_bookATT=Head+First+Design+Patterns http://www.headfirstlabs.com/books/hfdp/ for a quick overview and a typical illustration http://oreilly.com/catalog/9780596007126/toc.pdf Read the section on the Observer Pattern. It might be what you are looking for. Merrill, Jason wrote: I think just a quick answer to your questions which may help a lot is to check into understanding MVC - the Model-View-Controller design pattern. Probably one of the most common pattern used and one that other coding design frameworks use as well for part of their operations. So there are also frameworks like Cairngorm which takes MVC and other patterns together and go a lot further, it has things like Commands to facilitate communication. But simple MVC using event listeners and dispatchers is probably the best place to start to get what you want to do going. Jason Merrill Bank of America Instructional Technology Media · GCIB Staff Support LLD Interested in Flash Platform technologies? Join the Bank of America Flash Platform Developer Community Interested in innovative ideas in Learning? Check out the Innovative Learning Blog and subscribe. -Original Message- From: flashcoders-boun...@chattyfig.figleaf.com [mailto: flashcoders-boun...@chattyfig.figleaf.com] On Behalf Of Anthony Pace Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 3:48 PM To: Flash Coders List Subject: [Flashcoders] design pattern diagrams... I am looking to get more info on the composition of design patterns and which ones are used most often in the corporate world. Diagrams accompanied by code examples would be awesome. I have been able to find stuff in the past; yet, I really want to know what is generally preferred? I like to try and make things black box; however, it just seems illogical that things be black boxes all the time. when a person talks to another person the environment that they are in has to facilitate the communication; thus, if I have two objects instantiated in the same class and I want them to communicate with each other, I have to have a function in the main class or somewhere globally that allows those objects to communicate. How do I accomplish this without calling to the function in the parent? ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] design pattern diagrams...
@Jason I'm talking about the oreilly book Actionscript 3.0 Design Patterns by William Sanders and Chandima Cumaranatunge. Enter chapters are shifted off the page but there are addendum on the site. Also, MVC's are made up Observer, Strategy, and Composite patterns. Those need to be understood first. @Anthony, From what I've understood, if you aren't going to need to go back an edit/extend the app frequently or work on a team, there really isn't much benefit to using design patterns. They do however lend to re-using old classes in new apps so you that you don't have to start from scratch each time. On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 6:16 PM, Anthony Pace anthony.p...@utoronto.cawrote: But I am trying to understand why you would go through all that trouble, when calling the function in the parent, if it is a very small application unlikely to be expanded upon, is so much simpler? maybe for code re-use in a bigger application sure; however, doesn't it seem weird that tightly woven and fast executing code is not prized anymore, and there is a preference for bloated object oriented frameworks? All in the name of making the development cycle smaller and thus less costly; yet, what about increased file size issues and decreased performance? More objects and more event listeners == less performance and higher memory usage in my understanding. Ron Wheeler wrote: Head First Design Patterns is very easy to pick up. No typos, lots and lots of pictures, illustrations and code examples. http://oreilly.com/catalog/9780596007126/?CMP=AFC-ak_bookATT=Head+First+Design+Patterns http://www.headfirstlabs.com/books/hfdp/ for a quick overview and a typical illustration http://oreilly.com/catalog/9780596007126/toc.pdf Read the section on the Observer Pattern. It might be what you are looking for. Merrill, Jason wrote: I think just a quick answer to your questions which may help a lot is to check into understanding MVC - the Model-View-Controller design pattern. Probably one of the most common pattern used and one that other coding design frameworks use as well for part of their operations. So there are also frameworks like Cairngorm which takes MVC and other patterns together and go a lot further, it has things like Commands to facilitate communication. But simple MVC using event listeners and dispatchers is probably the best place to start to get what you want to do going. Jason Merrill Bank of America Instructional Technology Media · GCIB Staff Support LLD Interested in Flash Platform technologies? Join the Bank of America Flash Platform Developer Community Interested in innovative ideas in Learning? Check out the Innovative Learning Blog and subscribe. -Original Message- From: flashcoders-boun...@chattyfig.figleaf.com [mailto: flashcoders-boun...@chattyfig.figleaf.com] On Behalf Of Anthony Pace Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 3:48 PM To: Flash Coders List Subject: [Flashcoders] design pattern diagrams... I am looking to get more info on the composition of design patterns and which ones are used most often in the corporate world. Diagrams accompanied by code examples would be awesome. I have been able to find stuff in the past; yet, I really want to know what is generally preferred? I like to try and make things black box; however, it just seems illogical that things be black boxes all the time. when a person talks to another person the environment that they are in has to facilitate the communication; thus, if I have two objects instantiated in the same class and I want them to communicate with each other, I have to have a function in the main class or somewhere globally that allows those objects to communicate. How do I accomplish this without calling to the function in the parent? ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders -- --Joel Stransky stranskydesign.com ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] Thoughts on new features in CS4
One app the does everything would be terrible. You'd have to pay for features you don't want and will have to run an incredibly beefy program that will take the strongest of systems down. Maybe at some point, maybe when quantum computing is around!, but till then I'd say it's organised well.That however, is not an excuse for the terrible code editor. As for the original post, I have gotten my hands on CS4 just yet, but I've seen demo's and video tuts, and WOW.. its a pretty big jump and fantastic features for animators, which possibly means power for devs as well. But all of it could be done through code in 9, so maybe they've just made it easier for animators to do, but that's great none the less. 2009/1/8 Mendelsohn, Michael michael.mendels...@fmglobal.com Anthony, I'm going out on a limb and guessing that the why don't they just make it all one app that does everything suggestion has been around longer than you've been alive. Don't lose any sleep over that one. :-D - MM They don't care enough about users to make one application that does everything, or an app that integrates extremely easily with another feature set if purchased; for, they don't think like that. ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders -- The Random Lines My online portfolio www.therandomlines.com ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
[Flashcoders] NativeMenuItem keyModifier with function key (AIR)
Hey list, Do people here work with AIR? Or is there any better-aligned mailing list? Anyway. I'm using AIR 1.5's NativeMenuItem's .keyEquivalent and .keyEquivalentModifier. That feature is pretty cool and works like this: var item:NativeMenuItem = new NativeMenuItem(Do Whatever); item.keyEquivalent = d; item.keyEquivalentModifiers = [Keyboard.CONTROL]; Then when the user presses CTRL+D, the menu item is executed. (More information at http://livedocs.adobe.com/flex/3/html/help.html?content=Menus_2.html) I'm having a problem setting the .keyEquivalent, though. It accepts strings, so you can't set them to things like Enter, Tab, Del, F1, etc. You can try doing this: var item:NativeMenuItem = new NativeMenuItem(Do Whatever); item.keyEquivalent = F1; item.keyEquivalentModifiers = [Keyboard.CONTROL]; And then, funny enough, the menu item will display CTRL+F1 as the shortcut; but it won't work. The actual shortcut will be CTRL+F - that is, it only takes the first character of the string as the activation key (!). The documentation seems to completely ignore the problem, very briefly mentioning that .keyEquivalent accepts a string. In fact, you can write *anything* as the .keyEquivalent and it'll be shown there on the menu, but only the first char matters. I tried a lot of different things, like adding Keyboard.F1 to the keyEquivalentModifiers array, using Keyboard.F1's key code as a keyEquivalent char, using AIR's new .STRING_F1 or KEYNAME_F1 constants, and things like that. Nothing seems to work though. Has somebody ran into that and found a solution that works? Or am I imagining things? It seems odd to me that I'm able to create a menu in Flash which responds to F1 while I can't do that in AIR using its (great) native menus. Of course I can always add the shortcuts as some keyboard event listener hidden somewhere, but it'd be less than optimal (and wouldn't display the shortcut on the menu). Thanks, Zeh ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] Hi Flash Coders List, you were invited to join the gamer's social network
On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 5:54 PM, jdgiotta notificati...@playfire.com wrote: Hey Flash Coders List, Your friend jdgio...@gmail.com (jdgiotta) has invited you to join the new social network for gamers, Playfire.com. Click here to check it out: http://www.playfire.com/?rc=48b6b6387783ecc9 At Playfire.com, you can: Create a killer profile to show off all your games (we have over 40,000 games in the database!) Add your friends and follow what they're playing Stay up to date with news, videos and sceenshots for the games you track Hang out with other gamers and have fun! It only takes a few minutes to sign up, so have a look now. Warm regards, Playfire Team UUMC Ltd., 19 Greek St., 1st Floor, London, UK, W1D 4DT ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] Thoughts on new features in CS4
In advance I would like to apologize for what may seem to be, and quite possibly is in some cases, a rant. I have used it while on contract, and it is not all that great. For animation it is okay and sprites points bones and IK are great; yet, no coding improvements, other than not having to be case sensitive all the time for code hinting to work; however, I have found several bugs already with it; thus, flashdevelop is hundreds of miles ahead and I am so thankful that they exist; as well, they didn't even to give their dedicated code editor, dreamweaver the capability to edit AS1,2,3, which makes me believe they have real idiots managing things, and could be the reason, other than the downturn of the economy, as to why there apps are not selling as well as expected. I agree paying for an app that does everything would be horribly costly; however, paying for an app that gave you only the pieces you wanted to pay for on a modular basis, akin to SOA model, would make it so tighter integration and ease of use would be easily achievable. Just imagine the productivity if everything had a parent app that allowed to turn on and off features that were tightly integrated based upon what you needed at the time you were using the app. As it stands I have to keep 5 applications open at once on consistent basis, and having them integrate is annoyingly over complex, to downright impossible in some cases, so you better have real experience with choosing your work-flow and usage of apps. -copying the vector info from flash cs3 to illustrator is easy; however, I quite often come across situations where it will not copy the filters, and don't get me started on how difficult it is to get those vectors paths to properly work with photoshop. -What the hell happened to image ready? Photoshop cs3 lost a lot of features when they tried to merge them, and I think it is due to them just wanting to force you to purchase more applications to fill small wholes. -Why not just give flash developers the ability to publish directly to DVD? it is because they want to force you to purchase encore, when it would be so easy to make it possible in the flash IDE; as well, not being able to do tis from flash makes you have to employ work arounds to get your content on the DVD. -Soundbooth just sucks ass and I am forced to use cakewalk or protools to edit audio and bring it into flash. I will stop it here or I will be at it for weeks. Ashim D'Silva wrote: One app the does everything would be terrible. You'd have to pay for features you don't want and will have to run an incredibly beefy program that will take the strongest of systems down. Maybe at some point, maybe when quantum computing is around!, but till then I'd say it's organised well.That however, is not an excuse for the terrible code editor. As for the original post, I have gotten my hands on CS4 just yet, but I've seen demo's and video tuts, and WOW.. its a pretty big jump and fantastic features for animators, which possibly means power for devs as well. But all of it could be done through code in 9, so maybe they've just made it easier for animators to do, but that's great none the less. 2009/1/8 Mendelsohn, Michael michael.mendels...@fmglobal.com Anthony, I'm going out on a limb and guessing that the why don't they just make it all one app that does everything suggestion has been around longer than you've been alive. Don't lose any sleep over that one. :-D - MM They don't care enough about users to make one application that does everything, or an app that integrates extremely easily with another feature set if purchased; for, they don't think like that. ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] Hi Flash Coders List, you were invited to join the gamer's social network
I apologize for this really bad spam mistake. It was completely unintentional, but someone thought it was a brilliant idea to invite every contact in Gmail as a default feature. If I knew it was going to do that I wouldn't have. On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 5:54 PM, jdgiotta notificati...@playfire.com wrote: Hey Flash Coders List, Your friend jdgio...@gmail.com (jdgiotta) has invited you to join the new social network for gamers, Playfire.com. Click here to check it out: http://www.playfire.com/?rc=48b6b6387783ecc9 At Playfire.com, you can: Create a killer profile to show off all your games (we have over 40,000 games in the database!) Add your friends and follow what they're playing Stay up to date with news, videos and sceenshots for the games you track Hang out with other gamers and have fun! It only takes a few minutes to sign up, so have a look now. Warm regards, Playfire Team UUMC Ltd., 19 Greek St., 1st Floor, London, UK, W1D 4DT ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] Hi Flash Coders List, you were invited to join the gamer's social network
I apologize for this really bad spam mistake. Apology accepted! It was completely unintentional, but someone thought it was a brilliant idea to invite every contact in Gmail as a default feature. If I knew it was going to do that I wouldn't have. I know it was unintentional. For anyone else who's paying attention, a lot of these social network apps do this - you should assume that if you give it your Google Account credentials, that's what's going to happen. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers in Washington DC, Atlanta, Chicago, Baltimore, Northern Virginia, or on-site at your location. Visit http://training.figleaf.com/ for more information! ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
[Flashcoders] Auto Reply: Flashcoders Digest, Vol 16, Issue 8
Vielen Dank für Ihre Nachricht. Ich bin bis einschließlich 9. Januar 2009 nicht erreichbar. In dringenden Fällen wenden Sie sich bitte an Herrn Peer Schmidt-Soltau (p...@masterkitchen.de) oder Frau Hannah Witopil (han...@masterkitchen.de). Vielen Dank Johannes Killinger Master Kitchen GmbH Audiovisuelle Medienentwicklung Schorndorfer Straße 42/2 • 71638 Ludwigsburg Telefon (07141) 4 88 89-12 Telefax (07141) 4 88 89-19 http://www.masterkitchen.de ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] Auto Reply: Flashcoders Digest, Vol 16, Issue 8
This is getting annoying. 2009/1/7 j...@masterkitchen.de Vielen Dank für Ihre Nachricht. Ich bin bis einschließlich 9. Januar 2009 nicht erreichbar. In dringenden Fällen wenden Sie sich bitte an Herrn Peer Schmidt-Soltau ( p...@masterkitchen.de) oder Frau Hannah Witopil (han...@masterkitchen.de). Vielen Dank Johannes Killinger Master Kitchen GmbH Audiovisuelle Medienentwicklung Schorndorfer Straße 42/2 • 71638 Ludwigsburg Telefon (07141) 4 88 89-12 Telefax (07141) 4 88 89-19 http://www.masterkitchen.de ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders -- --Joel Stransky stranskydesign.com ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] Auto Reply: Flashcoders Digest, Vol 16, Issue 8
I know... Joel Stransky wrote: This is getting annoying. 2009/1/7 j...@masterkitchen.de Vielen Dank für Ihre Nachricht. Ich bin bis einschließlich 9. Januar 2009 nicht erreichbar. In dringenden Fällen wenden Sie sich bitte an Herrn Peer Schmidt-Soltau ( p...@masterkitchen.de) oder Frau Hannah Witopil (han...@masterkitchen.de). Vielen Dank Johannes Killinger Master Kitchen GmbH Audiovisuelle Medienentwicklung Schorndorfer Straße 42/2 • 71638 Ludwigsburg Telefon (07141) 4 88 89-12 Telefax (07141) 4 88 89-19 http://www.masterkitchen.de ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
[Flashcoders] How do you access this mailing list ...
I find the flashcoders mailing list very helpful and often pick up new ideas/techniques from what people post. Just wondering how people access this mailing list. It would be great if you could configure the SearchCoders Dashboard (which is a nice little air app - see link http://www.searchcoders.com/) for this FlashCoders list. I'll send them an email (searchcoders) and see if this is possible. Any thoughts on this. Cheers. SF. ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
[Flashcoders] Re: design pattern diagrams...
Furthermore, I suggest taking a look through the samples in the Adobe Flash Developer Center (http://www.adobe.com/devnet/flash/?navID=samples). The first link (New Flash ActionScript 3.0 samples - http://www.adobe.com/devnet/flash/samples/) has some downloadable source files that might assist you. Cheers SF. ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
