this list - hence we seem to have lost key people. Then we end up
in a viscious circle...
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in a viscious circle...
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FWIW: I've been working with Flash for over 6 years
] Flash coders content degrading
I think this whole argument is solid ground bullshit.
The definition of what you find interesting does not have a damn thing
to do with what is intermediate-to-advanced AS. AS3 work is irellevant
on a professional level, and Flex != Flash Actionscript. What you're
Any way you look at it, we're building a searchable repository of both
newb and advanced tips. Flash programmers aren't Nazis, marching
together as some kind of unified front against all newbies. A
community has elements from all skill levels, and if a newbie has a
coding question for the
RTFM:
http://www.osflash.org/flashcoders/etiquette
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I dont mean to offend anyone, but this *is* the newbie list - at
least in part. There is nothing wrong with that. I have never been to
the real newbie list, and would never make it there. Thats probably
true for most of the people who might answer a question (though I
honestly havent done much
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I dont mean to offend
to find the answers.
Forget I spoke.
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I'm on both lists
, June 13, 2006 10:59 AM
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It would seem I've stirred up a nest of vipers! My point is why bother
with the two lists? If noone can decide what constitutes a newbie
question?
Id've thought if most people forget
we get with the gift exchanging?
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Jason
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I will say, the newbie list is friendlier
On 6/13/06, Merrill, Jason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm on both lists, and the newbie list is more advanced than you would think.
Most of the questions there could easily be posted here. There are newbie
questions of course, but a majority of the subscribers are intermediate to
advanced
Hello I am a Noob,
I have a noobie question that cannot be answered on the noob list. I know it is
a noob question because I have been told on this list that it is.
But even though I have tried all suggestions I still can not get an mp3 player
to get it's xml list through a Flashvar in the
Before Flashcoders was around, people had to solve their Flash problems on
their own. After Flashcoders was around, some people didn't know about it
and had to solve their Flash problems on their own.
Bottom line is - the solutions are out there and many people don't take the
time to try and
The problem with a list named FlashNewbies is that help vampires, or
newbies who don't want to actually do any work, tend to avoid newbie lists
and go straight for the advanced ones because that's where they perceive the
advanced people to be. Why ask a noob how to do something when you can ask
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Hello I am a Noob,
I have a noobie question that cannot be answered
I think this thread quite completely explains the subject line.
Besides, when it comes down to it, a list is no different the
latest/greatest hangout you'd find with your friends. For a while, it was
great - not many people knew, and it was cool. THen everyone found out, it
got saturated, and
*heh*
I almost asked where is the flash newbie list. Subtly hilarious, eh?
I'm not really sure where I fall - middling I think - but I figure it can't
hurt to subscribe to that list as well - if I am more advanced than the bulk
there, well, one often learns by teaching (or by having your
On 6/13/06, Merrill, Jason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Perfect example of what we are talking about:
While we're at it, a general piece of advice:
I have the files all neatly bundled up in a zip file. I have a readme
describing my problem I have checked all my links (twice) to make sure
they all
Not to worry Mark others were helpful. No need to commit yourself.LOL
GIve me a link to a better forum for my question if you have one.
When I parsed out the info it was hard to get an answer. So I spent some time
to make a neat package so if someone did want to help I could send it and it
I have the files all neatly bundled up in a zip file. I have a readme
describing my problem I have checked all my links (twice) to make
sure they all work.
If you spent half as much time reading the documentation as you did
packaging the files and typing that email, you'd have figured it out
I am sure some people post every question they have with out doing research. I
looked everywhere including the origional authors website. Common Creative
licence I used this list as an absolute last resort.
PS. a programmer at work helped me with the problem and we have it solved. But
for
I recommend avoiding flashvars and loading the XML using XML2
http://www.gskinner.com/blog/archives/2004/02/the_ultimate_as.html.
Mike
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On 6/13/06, Mark Winterhalder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 6/13/06, Merrill, Jason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I don't know how
others feel about this, but for me the threshold is /much/ higher than
simply downloading a linked zip.
Agreed. I enjoy helping amateurs on smaller problems (offlist), as
Thanks Mike I will check that out. I do really appreciate all the time you guys
give to this list.
Mike Britton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I recommend avoiding flashvars and
loading the XML using XML2
http://www.gskinner.com/blog/archives/2004/02/the_ultimate_as.html.
Mike
Your response to Try searching the archives or google for your answers
before asking the list is If you don't want to help me, shut up.
Apparently, petulant children have taken over.
Excellent summarization. The problem is, this tells me more about you
than it does about the list. This is
Bottom line is if someone gets stuck they are going to find
help where they can. To tell you the truth I would post just
about any place to be able to get an answer just so I can go
to sleep one night this week.
Some of us are not action scripting for fun. We are working
in the real
On 6/13/06, Mark Winterhalder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 6/13/06, Merrill, Jason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I don't know how
others feel about this, but for me the threshold is /much/ higher
than
simply downloading a linked zip.
That second line is a mis-quote. I didn't say that, Mark did.
Why not hire a designer?
Precisely my point. Hence, a designer should hire a programmer if they need
some programming done.
:)
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Hey Matt, give Xray a try:
www.osflash.org/xray
Look at your flash application/site in anyway you want and learn a TON more
about the player at the same time. I've heard from so many flash devs that
they not only fixed their issues, but their knowledge of the player went up
10 fold while using
Some FlashCoders might be moving over to FlexCoders, where they can
talk about ActionScript 3...
On 6/12/06, Mike Mountain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Dunno if its me skilling up (which I doubt) but it would seem a lot of
the posts flash coders are getting now would be better suited in:
Been like that for quite some time.
Too many people answering newbie posts instead of pointing them to the
newbie list.
Plus, too many OT posts. Why would someone want to read discussions on
non-Flash coding topics in Flashcoders? That's what other lists are for.
Others seem to disagree, and
Too many people answering newbie posts instead of pointing
them to the newbie list.
I'm guilty of that - it was the flash player thread that prompted the
hang on a minute... moment and begat this email
Plus, too many OT posts. Why would someone want to read
discussions on non-Flash
I just seem to find myself scanning over/deleting instantly more and
more posts, whereas 8-12 months ago I was reading the vast majority
It's cyclical, like everything else. In the absence of stimulating
discussion of complex and interesting problems, some newbie questions and OT
posts
People, stop the madness
The flash player question is not a newbie question. I have over 8 years of
flash development under my belt. It's a simple question, not newbie and I
still don't have a good answer for it.
On 6/12/06, Mike Mountain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Too many people
, all
you need to do is delete the messages that don't interest you.
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FWIW: I've been working with Flash for over 6 years, but there are still
a
lot of things I haven't done. I've built some complex apps, but they are
business apps (functionality revolves around the basic CRUD) intended to
be
displayed
Not to mention the ability to search through messages (or digests) for
keywords of interest.
Mike
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People, stop the madness
The flash player question is not a newbie question. I have over 8 years
] Flash coders content degrading
Er, didn't they just turn this thread into what they commented they'd
prefer not to see so much of in the FlashCoders list? ;-)
Lee
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I use rules with entourage, and then filter by subject, you can delete all
messages with a matching subject that way. Somethin like that might work for
you. I'm sure u can do it in outlook as well.
a
On 6/12/06 7:37 AM, Mike Mountain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Dunno if its me skilling up (which
I m enjoying this...Sometime this kind of thread helps as a break :)
-Neh
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