Re: [Flightgear-devel] fgfs not using direct rendering with xorg

2005-04-13 Thread Martin Spott
Josh Babcock wrote: OK, I thought I was cool, but I'm not. When I got Xorg working, I forgot that there's a bug in sawfish that resets LD_LIBRARY_PATH and that I had a hack somewhere that was pointing apps to the old XFree86 radeon driver. So now that's fixed, and glxgears is great (and

[Flightgear-devel] Re: fgfs not using direct rendering with xorg

2005-04-13 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Martin Spott -- Wednesday 13 April 2005 08:52: Oh man, what do you need all these shared libs for ? [...] Could you try to recompile and link to only what's really necessary ? FYI, for gcc that's: LDFLAGS=-Wl,--as-needed Saves 6 libraries here (e.g. libglut when linking with SDL). There

Re: [Flightgear-devel] fgfs not using direct rendering with xorg

2005-04-13 Thread Erik Hofman
Hi Josh, Josh Babcock wrote: OK, I thought I was cool, but I'm not. When I got Xorg working, I forgot that there's a bug in sawfish that resets LD_LIBRARY_PATH and that I had a hack somewhere that was pointing apps to the old XFree86 radeon driver. So now that's fixed, and glxgears is great

[Flightgear-devel] Re: CVS: FlightGear/src/GUI dialog.cxx, 1.22, 1.23 dialog.hxx, 1.7, 1.8

2005-04-13 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Erik Hofman -- Wednesday 13 April 2005 13:39: Allow for recoloring the dialogs. Cool. I've played with an extreme (urine?) yellow in the material dialog. I wanted to make the red slider red, the green slider green, etc., but this does apparently only work for the top level dialog. BTW: it adds

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: CVS: FlightGear/src/GUI dialog.cxx, 1.22, 1.23 dialog.hxx, 1.7, 1.8

2005-04-13 Thread Erik Hofman
Melchior FRANZ wrote: Cool. I've played with an extreme (urine?) yellow in the material dialog. I wanted to make the red slider red, the green slider green, etc., but this does apparently only work for the top level dialog. Yep, I still need to sort that out a bit. BTW: it adds a little vertical

[Flightgear-devel] RE: Unknown IO option

2005-04-13 Thread Luuk van Hal
First of all thanks for the quick answers. I've added all the changes I made to the files concerning rh_flight, to the bottom of this mail. I've checked all the things you mentioned, but I couldn't find any problems. Is: ./configure, make, make install the same as what you call compiling?

Re: [Flightgear-devel] RE: Unknown IO option

2005-04-13 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Could windows be doing something funny with the underscore when parsing your command line option? You might try printing out all the options as they are parsed to make sure they are getting passed along to flightgear correctly. Curt. Luuk van Hal wrote: First of all thanks for the quick

[Flightgear-devel] Re: CVS: FlightGear/src/GUI dialog.cxx, 1.22, 1.23 dialog.hxx, 1.7, 1.8

2005-04-13 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Erik Hofman -- Wednesday 13 April 2005 14:40: Melchior FRANZ wrote: adds a little vertical extra space on top (and uglifies my inconsistent fake window close buttons. ;-) I'm not sure I follow this, I can't see anything obviously wrong and in fact it shouldn't. Right. Looked at your

[Flightgear-devel] Re: CVS: FlightGear/src/GUI dialog.cxx, 1.22, 1.23 dialog.hxx, 1.7, 1.8

2005-04-13 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Melchior FRANZ -- Wednesday 13 April 2005 15:37: Melchior FRANZ wrote: adds a little vertical extra space on top (and uglifies my inconsistent fake window close buttons. ;-) It's probably Andy's layouter that mistakes the color nodes for objects to put padding around. We'll be able to

Re: [Flightgear-devel] fgfs not using direct rendering with xorg

2005-04-13 Thread Josh Babcock
Erik Hofman wrote: Hi Josh, Josh Babcock wrote: OK, I thought I was cool, but I'm not. When I got Xorg working, I forgot that there's a bug in sawfish that resets LD_LIBRARY_PATH and that I had a hack somewhere that was pointing apps to the old XFree86 radeon driver. So now that's fixed, and

[Flightgear-devel] Re: CVS: FlightGear/src/GUI dialog.cxx, 1.22, 1.23 dialog.hxx, 1.7, 1.8

2005-04-13 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Melchior FRANZ -- Wednesday 13 April 2005 15:37: - also, there should be one reserved key for an aircraft help dialog that lists all special keys (Ctrl-D: open/close bomb door etc.) Every aircraft that uses more than just default keys should IMHO have such a dialog. It's easy

RE: [Flightgear-devel] Re: CVS: FlightGear/src/GUI dialog.cxx, 1.22, 1.23 dialog.hxx, 1.7, 1.8

2005-04-13 Thread Vivian Meazza
Melchior FRANZ wrote - also, there should be one reserved key for an aircraft help dialog that lists all special keys (Ctrl-D: open/close bomb door etc.) Every aircraft that uses more than just default keys should IMHO have such a dialog. It's easy enough to do via Nasal.

[Flightgear-devel] Problems with YASim turbine engines

2005-04-13 Thread Lee Elliott
Hello all, This is probably one for Andy R. I've got two flight models in development that use the YASim turbine engine and although they both solve and fly reasonably (bearing in mind that they are both pre-alpha and I've done less than 15 minutes on each) the fuel flow figures are of the

[Flightgear-devel] Re: CVS: FlightGear/src/GUI dialog.cxx, 1.22, 1.23 dialog.hxx, 1.7, 1.8

2005-04-13 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Vivian Meazza -- Wednesday 13 April 2005 20:32: Pity about the air-sick green colour :-) Never mind. For UK aircraft, or if the starting airport is in the UK, then the dialog will, of course, autmatically be made pink! m. ___ Flightgear-devel

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Problems with YASim turbine engines

2005-04-13 Thread Lee Elliott
On Wednesday 13 April 2005 19:34, Lee Elliott wrote: Hello all, This is probably one for Andy R. I've got two flight models in development that use the YASim turbine engine and although they both solve and fly reasonably (bearing in mind that they are both pre-alpha and I've done less than

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Problems with YASim turbine engines

2005-04-13 Thread Lee Elliott
On Wednesday 13 April 2005 19:34, Lee Elliott wrote: Hello all, [snip..] also ignore the remark about the fuel tanks being empty on start-up - that only happens if your throttle is even only slightly open. However, with the throttles fully closed I now notice that the fuel-flow rate is

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Problems with YASim turbine engines

2005-04-13 Thread Andy Ross
Lee Elliott wrote: I've got two flight models in development that use the YASim turbine engine and [...] the fuel flow figures are of the order of several hundred million gallons/hour. There was a units bug with the default (and currently untunable) BSFC number. Try it now and see if that

[Flightgear-devel] Re: CVS: FlightGear/src/GUI dialog.cxx, 1.22, 1.23 dialog.hxx, 1.7, 1.8

2005-04-13 Thread Jim Wilson
From: Melchior FRANZ * Melchior FRANZ -- Wednesday 13 April 2005 15:37: - also, there should be one reserved key for an aircraft help dialog that lists all special keys (Ctrl-D: open/close bomb door etc.) Every aircraft that uses more than just default keys should IMHO have

Re: [Flightgear-devel] fgfs not using direct rendering with xorg

2005-04-13 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Wed, 13 Apr 2005 12:37:35 -0400, Josh wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Contents of /sim/rendering ... bits-per-pixel (16) ... ... I'm running my xserver at 24 BPP. ..make up your mind. ;o) -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt... ;o) ...with a number of polar bear

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Problems with YASim turbine engines

2005-04-13 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Wed, 13 Apr 2005 12:44:14 -0700, Andy wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Lee Elliott wrote: I've got two flight models in development that use the YASim turbine engine and [...] the fuel flow figures are of the order of several hundred million gallons/hour. There was a units bug

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Problems with YASim turbine engines

2005-04-13 Thread Andy Ross
Arnt Karlsen wrote: Andy Ross wrote: There was a units bug with the default (and currently untunable) BSFC number. ..could the BSFC figure be moved to the config tree? (Would allow modelling exotic fuels etc too.) I lied. You actually *can* set the fuel consumption on the turbine engine

[Flightgear-devel] Re: CVS: FlightGear/src/GUI dialog.cxx, 1.22, 1.23 dialog.hxx, 1.7, 1.8

2005-04-13 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Melchior FRANZ -- Wednesday 13 April 2005 23:06: True. But as soon as you need to scroll, there's already too much information. It is no help at all when you are flying and have to scroll around to search for key bindings etc. Why then not open an external browser window right away? What do

[Flightgear-devel] Re: CVS: FlightGear/src/GUI dialog.cxx, 1.22, 1.23 dialog.hxx, 1.7, 1.8

2005-04-13 Thread Jim Wilson
From: Melchior FRANZ provide a framework for adding text to every aircraft. In some cases you really need slightly more (but still brief) information and not just a table of key bindings to get started. True. But as soon as you need to scroll, there's already too much

[Flightgear-devel] Re: CVS: FlightGear/src/GUI dialog.cxx, 1.22, 1.23 dialog.hxx, 1.7, 1.8

2005-04-13 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Jim Wilson -- Wednesday 13 April 2005 23:35: The extra info that could be added would be little tips on starting the engine or taking off. Only unique bits, not a whole POH. I'm thinking maybe one or two lines in addition to the bindings. OK. I'm playing with something like this now:

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Problems with YASim turbine engines

2005-04-13 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Wed, 13 Apr 2005 14:07:23 -0700, Andy wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Arnt Karlsen wrote: Andy Ross wrote: There was a units bug with the default (and currently untunable) BSFC number. ..could the BSFC figure be moved to the config tree? (Would allow modelling exotic fuels

Re: [Flightgear-devel] fgfs not using direct rendering with xorg

2005-04-13 Thread Josh Babcock
Arnt Karlsen wrote: On Wed, 13 Apr 2005 12:37:35 -0400, Josh wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Contents of /sim/rendering ... bits-per-pixel (16) ... ... I'm running my xserver at 24 BPP. ..make up your mind. ;o) *I* did. Unfortunately my X has a mind of its own. Actually, I think I am

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Problems with YASim turbine engines

2005-04-13 Thread Lee Elliott
On Wednesday 13 April 2005 20:44, Andy Ross wrote: Lee Elliott wrote: I've got two flight models in development that use the YASim turbine engine and [...] the fuel flow figures are of the order of several hundred million gallons/hour. There was a units bug with the default (and currently