Re: [Flightgear-devel] poll (more complex than at first appears?)

2005-06-11 Thread Lee Elliott
On Friday 10 Jun 2005 22:41, Andy Ross wrote: theoreticle wrote: Let's say someone comes up with a model for the old Pan Am Clipper, that wants to land fully loaded with passengers and half loaded with fuel. The actual aircraft will sink it's fuselage as far as 5 feet into the water,

Re: [Flightgear-devel] poll (more complex than at first appears?)

2005-06-11 Thread Gerard Robin
Le samedi 11 juin 2005 10:20 +0100, Lee Elliott a crit : On Friday 10 Jun 2005 22:41, Andy Ross wrote: theoreticle wrote: Let's say someone comes up with a model for the old Pan Am Clipper, that wants to land fully loaded with passengers and half loaded with fuel. The actual aircraft

Re: [Flightgear-devel] poll

2005-06-11 Thread Martin Spott
Dave Culp wrote: This is a poll. Does anyone really want the FDM to allow flying under the terrain, or was that a misunderstanding by me? No, this is not a misunderstanding. Probably your conclusion of we need to avoid such a situation is different from mine. I would not want to let aircraft

[Flightgear-devel] timer help

2005-06-11 Thread eagle monart
5. Re: timer help (Josh Babcock) are there any references to use time delay in functions. i am trying to delay speedbrake for 1.5 scnds everytime activated or deactivated in larcsim . i tried to use sleep() functions in msvc71 but makes the whole sim sleep:) i am looking for example

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FG-JSB Carrier Landing Patch

2005-06-11 Thread Mathias Fröhlich
On Donnerstag 09 Juni 2005 15:29, Gerard ROBIN wrote: I have ( for my personal use ), rebuild a Patch which can be applied to the last release (today 12 GMT) of /FlightGear/source/src/FDM/JSBSim. If Jon, Mathias, JSB development team, FG development team agree with, and if anybody

Re: [Flightgear-devel] timer help

2005-06-11 Thread Roy Vegard Ovesen
On Saturday 11 June 2005 13:44, eagle monart wrote: i am totaly lost. i ve tried different declarations of delay functions but they starts infinite loops. i tihnk nasal expalined only for xml usage but i didnt find a source to declare settimer() in a source code . I need a

Re: [Flightgear-devel] timer help

2005-06-11 Thread Roy Vegard Ovesen
On Saturday 11 June 2005 14:15, Roy Vegard Ovesen wrote: settimer(foo(...), time) where foo(...) is the function to call and time is the delay in seconds. This will call foo(...) in time seconds from when settimer() is called. Here is a function that repeats, or calls itself every 5

Re: [Flightgear-devel] After crash , Restart ?

2005-06-11 Thread Martin Spott
Ampere K. Hardraade wrote: On June 9, 2005 05:28 pm, Martin Spott wrote: I'm curious if it is possible to 'simply' define the whole model as a contact point and let the OpenGL subsystem detect terrain collision. This would require some return channel from the OpenGL system back to the

[Flightgear-devel] New developer

2005-06-11 Thread jvrvez
Hi All! I would like to contribute to flightgear project... I'm interested in converting italian scenery from MSFS (I already know that it is not possible to distribute stuff that it isn't GPL compatible) and creating an MD-82 model for flightgear... 1) Does someone is already working on that?

Re: [Flightgear-devel] poll (more complex than at first appears?)

2005-06-11 Thread Andy Ross
Lee Elliott wrote: One problem with using YASim for sea planes is that the fuselage mustn't contact the surface as this equates to a crash. While I was experimenting with the SR45 I found that I had to omit the lower fuselage deck to achieve this, which must then affect the flying accuracy.

Re: [Flightgear-devel] poll (more complex than at first appears?)

2005-06-11 Thread Andy Ross
Gerard Robin wrote: I could not use JSB (no rotor FDM) and with the use of Yasim it has been very difficult to find the right way which make that model to stand correctly on water with gear-up. To answer that, JSBSim gives a better flexibility. Both JSBSim and YASim use manually placed gear

Re: [Flightgear-devel] timer help

2005-06-11 Thread Andy Ross
eagle monart wrote: i am totaly lost. i ve tried different declarations of delay functions but they starts infinite loops. i tihnk nasal expalined only for xml usage but i didnt find a source to declare settimer() in a source code . I need a reference... The documentation for the function is

Re: [Flightgear-devel] poll (more complex than at first appears?)

2005-06-11 Thread Gerard Robin
Le samedi 11 juin 2005 08:39 -0700, Andy Ross a crit : Gerard Robin wrote: I could not use JSB (no rotor FDM) and with the use of Yasim it has been very difficult to find the right way which make that model to stand correctly on water with gear-up. To answer that, JSBSim gives a better

[Flightgear-devel] joystick subsystem changes

2005-06-11 Thread Melchior FRANZ
The joystick subsystem does now work differently. Notable changes are: (0) There's no need to list all joystick config files in $FG_ROOT/Input/Joysticks. They are loaded automatically. (1) /input/joysticks/ does only contain nodes for active joysticks -- that's only one single js[0] in

Re: [Flightgear-devel] poll (more complex than at first appears?)

2005-06-11 Thread Andy Ross
Gerard Robin wrote: with Yasim we must find a medium way to get the same effect. About retractable gears no problems, about contact points on the fuse big problems . I'm not understanding this at all; JSBSim and YASim have all but identical* gear systems. Can you please post the YASim

[Flightgear-devel] Re: poll (more complex than at first appears?)

2005-06-11 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Andy Ross -- Saturday 11 June 2005 17:35: FWIW, adding special behavior for contact points when they touch water (relaxed crash distance and spring constant, I guess) wouldn't be hard, provided the hard part is done: telling the FDM when the intersection point is with water. The hard part

[Flightgear-devel] Re: poll (more complex than at first appears?)

2005-06-11 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Melchior FRANZ -- Saturday 11 June 2005 18:14: * Andy Ross -- Saturday 11 June 2005 17:35: wouldn't be hard, provided the hard part is done: telling the FDM when the intersection point is with water. The hard part *is* done already. See in groundcache.cxx: [...] type and frictionFactor!

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: poll (more complex than at first appears?)

2005-06-11 Thread Erik Hofman
Melchior FRANZ wrote: * Andy Ross -- Saturday 11 June 2005 17:35: FWIW, adding special behavior for contact points when they touch water (relaxed crash distance and spring constant, I guess) wouldn't be hard, provided the hard part is done: telling the FDM when the intersection point is with

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: poll (more complex than at first appears?)

2005-06-11 Thread Erik Hofman
Melchior FRANZ wrote: Umm ... I take the frictionFactor back. That's just a placeholder for now and always returns 1.0. But the type should work. :-) (rolling)-friction and bumpiness could be read from materials.xml in the future. Erik ___

RE: [Flightgear-devel] poll (more complex than at first appears?)

2005-06-11 Thread Jon Berndt
Andy wrote: whereas YASim allows different gear object to retract independently. !!! ... now there's a thought. Hmmm. I feel a feature request coming for JSBSim. :-) Jon ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@flightgear.org

[Flightgear-devel] [Fwd: Re: [Jsbsim-devel] crash handling options for JSBSim in FlightGear]

2005-06-11 Thread Gerard Robin
Message transfr De: Gerard Robin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Rpondre : [EMAIL PROTECTED] : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Objet: Re: [Jsbsim-devel] crash handling options for JSBSim in FlightGear Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2005 18:39:41 +0200 Le vendredi 10 juin 2005 14:59 -0500, Dave Culp a crit : It seems

Re: [Flightgear-devel] poll (more complex than at first appears?)

2005-06-11 Thread Gerard Robin
Le samedi 11 juin 2005 09:24 -0700, Andy Ross a crit : Gerard Robin wrote: with Yasim we must find a medium way to get the same effect. About retractable gears no problems, about contact points on the fuse big problems . I'm not understanding this at all; JSBSim and YASim have all

Re: [Flightgear-devel] poll (more complex than at first appears?)

2005-06-11 Thread Lee Elliott
On Saturday 11 Jun 2005 16:35, Andy Ross wrote: Lee Elliott wrote: One problem with using YASim for sea planes is that the fuselage mustn't contact the surface as this equates to a crash. While I was experimenting with the SR45 I found that I had to omit the lower fuselage deck to

[Fwd: Re: [Fwd: Re: [Flightgear-devel] [Fwd: Re: [Jsbsim-devel] crash]

2005-06-11 Thread Gerard Robin
Message transfr De: Martin Spott [EMAIL PROTECTED] Rpondre : FlightGear developers discussions flightgear- [EMAIL PROTECTED] : flightgear-devel@flightgear.org Objet: Re: [Fwd: Re: [Flightgear-devel] [Fwd: Re: [Jsbsim-devel] crash Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2005 19:53:19 + (UTC)

RE: [Flightgear-devel] timer help

2005-06-11 Thread Vivian Meazza
eagle monart wrote And, as always, posting the code you are having trouble with is much more useful than simply announcing that different versions start infinite loops. :) Andy i wrote different functions here is few examples. by the way i am writing these to the larcsim c172aero

[Flightgear-devel] Re: [Jsbsim-devel] crash]

2005-06-11 Thread AJ MacLeod (email lists)
On Saturday 11 Jun 2005 21:28, Gerard Robin wrote: Sorry ,I probably, missed something but i have no access to CVS respective changelog entry, You can subscribe to the flightgear-cvslogs mailing list or check the archive here; http://baron.flightgear.org/pipermail/flightgear-cvslogs/

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Jsbsim-devel] crash]

2005-06-11 Thread Frederic Bouvier
Sorry ,I probably, missed something but i have no access to CVS respective changelog entry, You can subscribe to the flightgear-cvslogs mailing list or check the archive here; http://baron.flightgear.org/pipermail/flightgear-cvslogs/ This one may interest you :

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Jsbsim-devel] crash]

2005-06-11 Thread Gerard Robin
Le samedi 11 juin 2005 21:40 +0100, AJ MacLeod (email lists) a crit : On Saturday 11 Jun 2005 21:28, Gerard Robin wrote: Sorry ,I probably, missed something but i have no access to CVS respective changelog entry, You can subscribe to the flightgear-cvslogs mailing list or check the

Re: [Fwd: Re: [Fwd: Re: [Flightgear-devel] [Fwd: Re: [Jsbsim-devel] crash]

2005-06-11 Thread Gerard Robin
Message transfr De: Martin Spott [EMAIL PROTECTED] De: Martin Spott [EMAIL PROTECTED] This was explained in the CVS respective changelog entry, Martin. Sorry ,I probably, missed something but i have no access to CVS respective changelog entry, I

Re: [Flightgear-devel] poll

2005-06-11 Thread Ampere K. Hardraade
On June 11, 2005 06:07 pm, Oliver C. wrote: I agree with the terrain. But i think that airplanes need to be able to sink after they crash. :) So the best way would be to make the terrain and watersurfaces independent from each other. This would also have some positive side effects because it

Re: [Fwd: Re: [Fwd: Re: [Flightgear-devel] [Fwd: Re: [Jsbsim-devel] crash]

2005-06-11 Thread Martin Spott
Gerard Robin wrote: Sorry ,I probably, missed something but i have no access to CVS respective changelog entry, http://baron.flightgear.org/pipermail/flightgear-cvslogs/ Look at the recent changes made by Erik, Martin. -- Unix _IS_ user friendly - it's just selective about who

Re: [Flightgear-devel] New developer

2005-06-11 Thread Ampere K. Hardraade
On June 11, 2005 03:06 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi All! I would like to contribute to flightgear project... I'm interested in converting italian scenery from MSFS (I already know that it is not possible to distribute stuff that it isn't GPL compatible) and creating an MD-82 model for

[Flightgear-devel] t-38

2005-06-11 Thread tom bonnell
hi all; i am looking for detailed info and measurements of t-38 . some guys told mei can even find accurate scalar tables in roskam books series. i am planning to buy one from amazon but dont know which one contains t-38 datas. anyone knows??

Re: [Flightgear-devel] poll

2005-06-11 Thread Martin Spott
Ampere K. Hardraade wrote: I like that idea. It would be nice to fly along the coast of a tropical island, look down and be able to see the white sand under the water... I think we could already get this by exploring the shallow water attribute in the VMAP data well, I could be wrong,

[Fwd: Re: [Flightgear-devel] crash handling options for JSBSim in FlightGear

2005-06-11 Thread Gerard Robin
Le samedi 11 juin 2005 22:07 +, Martin Spott a crit : Gerard Robin wrote: Sorry ,I probably, missed something but i have no access to CVS respective changelog entry, http://baron.flightgear.org/pipermail/flightgear-cvslogs/ Look at the recent changes made by Erik,

Re: [Flightgear-devel] timer help

2005-06-11 Thread Andy Ross
eagle monart wrote: i am tryng to add a delay in seconds before activation/ deactivation of cockpit functions. my aim is to declare specific drag according to time within component cycle time. i am trying to add an example decleration for that purposebut function goes