Re: [Flightgear-devel] 1.9.2 release for FSWeekend?
Hi James, I'm certainly open to the idea, but I don't think I'm able to manage that, since I'm both primarily responsible for organizing FSWeekend, and have been coordinating the releases in the last few years as well. Having two deadlines come up at the same time, in addition to teaching four courses (of which two are new - lots of preparation), a deadline for a grant proposal, and a major review paper (both Sept 30), as well as serving on a PhD defense committee and preparing a symposium talk (Nov 2 and 3 respectively), I'm not sure whether I'm alive by the start of FSWeekend. :-) For this reason, my personal preference would be to continue regular development until FSWeekend, than allow us a few weeks for bugfixing and Beta testing. That would put the release around christmas time, which would be a lot more of an easy time for me. I agree with Heiko (see earlier post in this thread) that we should have a more careful beta testing period. Last year we had a few last minute check-ins that turned out to bite us. Let's try to circumvent that. Cheers, Durk On Saturday 05 September 2009 11:36:39 James Turner wrote: Subject says it all, I think - what do people think about doing a 1.9.2 release just before FSWeekend (i.e first week of November)? There's been enough improvements across the board (JSBSim updates, many divions by zero / NaN fixes, improved random objects; just for starters - I'm sure there's many things I've forgotten) quite apart from the effects work. I'll leave it to Tim and co to decide if shaders / effects are enabled or disabled by default in such a release - and the same for Torsten's new input code. Regards, James --- --- Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus on what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel -- Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus on what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] pilot list error
Last test shows correct amount of players , pilot list good , model view good , but now apparently when someone leaves and valid becomes false , they remain on the pilot list / model view for a short time , though no 3d model is visible in the model view. But I need sleep , have to look at it tomorrow. Cheers On Sat, Sep 5, 2009 at 10:44 PM, syd adams adams@gmail.com wrote: Changing line 275 in multiplayer.nas to distance-to-km: distance / 1000.0 or 0, appears to get things running again. -- Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus on what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
[Flightgear-devel] Fw: Latest CVS with Joystick on Vista...
Disregard the below. I found the e-mail in question. I'll switch the axis numbers in my bindings file until the next Win32 build which will contain the patch affecting the windows tags. (Oh, and also I obviously meant Aug 17 and not 19.) Sorry, -R. Robert M. Shearman, Jr. Transit Operations Supervisor, University of Maryland Department of Transportation also known as rm...@umd.edu - Forwarded Message From: Rob Shearman, Jr. rmsj...@yahoo.com To: FlightGear Developers flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Saturday, September 5, 2009 9:56:35 AM Subject: Latest CVS with Joystick on Vista... Hi all -- I probably just missed the discussion, but when I upgraded to the latest CVS build for Win32 just now (dated Aug 19), my throttle axis and joystick axis seem to have gotten reversed. I'm using the same bindings file I always have. Is this a bug, or a remapping to align Linux with Vista axis numbering, or other? Thanks, and sorry if this was already mentioned somewhere. Cheers, -R. Robert M. Shearman, Jr. Transit Operations Supervisor, University of Maryland Department of Transportation also known as rm...@umd.edu -- Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus on what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Source code control systems
Hi Curt et al., Well, I guess that most has been said already, but let me weight in with just a few additional points. I also believe that it is time to move the repositories over to a higher capacity and professionally maintained infra structure. My experiences with google code are generally very positive, so I have no objection there. My impression is that the majority of developers prefer git over SVN, so I believe that that should be the control system of choice. Currently, the base package is growing rapidly, and I believe that for the next release, we should make an effort to bring it back to a size as small as possible. Moving the base package repository over to a new server might be the most excellent opportunity to split it into several smaller (optional packages). FWIW, I would prefer to provide only 1 aircraft (the cessna), and no AI stuff with the base package. That would bring the download size down considerably. Aircraft could be provided as separate downloads, not only from the website, but preferably also as a separate SVN/GIT checkout. The same would be true for AI. Whatever else should we be able to split off and provide separately.? Finally, regardless of where we migrate to, This is also an excellent opportunity to think about how we provide the infrastructure for new releases and were we put the final download packages. Ideally, releases should be build on the server. During the last versions, that wasn't possible, because I didn't have shell access to the host, resulting in building it at home, and uploading it through a very slow wireless connection, with many problems as a result. if google code were to allow me to do all those things remotely they'd get my vote. Cheers Durk On Wednesday 02 September 2009 17:55:07 Curtis Olson wrote: Source code control systems are close to religious topics for many people so I want to avoid potential panic here. I understand that due to the diversity of opinions within our developer community, it will be impossible to reach any kind of consensus for any action. Even the default of no action is controversial. :-) My goal here is to not debate the final solution, but hopefully find some agreement so we can move a step forward, and from that new position, we will be in a better position to discuss future options. So to start out, I think most of us agree that CVS is old and clunky and there are a variety of better options available. In addition, I am self hosting our master CVS repository which means that if my machine breaks, I personally am on the hook to drop everything else and do whatever it takes (ranging from hardware, to OS, to security, to whatever ...) to find and fix the problem before we can get our repository back online. What if I happen to be on vacation or on a work trip or get hit by the proverbial beer truck and then a problem develops with the server? To add new developers, I personally need to manually create accounts, adjust group membership, etc. again if I'm out of town or in the midst of some crazy work deadline, there could be substantial delays. In addition, I have a remote backup system in place for our CVS server, but that is another self managed system and earlier this summer the backup system failed and all the backup data was completely lost, leaving us with just a single primary copy of the main repository until I could get the backup system back up and running again (which it is now.) These are all things that could be improved on and streamlined. From my perspective, these administrative issues are of equal importance to discussing which specific version control system we might step to. All of these things need to be considered together when determining a route forward. What I propose is that we migrate our self hosted CVS repository to code.google.com and in the process convert to SVN. 1. This gives us professional management of the servers, regular professional backups, and an automatec access control system for adding new developers. Google has a tremendous amount of bandwidth and compute power behind their systems, way more than I could ever offer on any self hosted system. When something breaks on a google server, there is a pool of people available and qualified to fix the problem. On any self hosted system (no matter how well run) there is usually only one person who could jump in and fix a potential problem. 2. We need to move away from CVS somehow. SVN is a big improvement (but yes, I realize many of our developers think that going direct to some other system will be an even bigger improvement.) Let me just offer that this doesn't have to be the final destination. It may just be a step forward in our journey. Please, please don't panic! I suspect that building a gateway between SVN and other systems should be easier and more transparent than a gateway between CVS and the other system given that SVN has
Re: [Flightgear-devel] [flightgear-devel] Internal documentation of props.Node object
Searching for it for approximately one day and finding nothing, I decided to
write my own function for converting strings to numeric values. Below is the
function for it:
var stringToNum = func (str) {
var boyut = size(str);
var pointLoc = boyut;
var value = 0;
var i = 0;
for(var k=0; klt;boyut; k+=1)
if (str[k]==46) pointLoc = k;
for (; ilt;pointLoc; i+=1) {
value += (str[i]-48) * math.pow(10,pointLoc-i-1);
}
i+=1;
value = int(value);
for (var j = 1; ilt;boyut; i+=1) {
value += (str[i]-48) * math.pow(10,-j);
j+=1;
}
return value;
}
It would still be good to know if any built-in method does this too :)
Greetings
2009/9/5 Behlül UÇAR ucarbeh...@gmail.com
Is it possible to find detailed information for each method of Node object
which is in $FG_ROOT/Nasal/props.nas file.
Actually my problem as follows: I'm taking input from an input box and i
assign it to a property. I want it to be a numeric value (double for
example) but it's always a string. I've tried everything and looked
everywhere but couldn't find how to do it.
Because of this shorthandness, at later steps I get NaN errors. I try to
make some calculations and naturally I can not do since they are strings
Any help would be very appreciated!
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[Flightgear-devel] [flightgear-devel] Critical error in tutorial system
I tried to make a tutorial including target tag and got this error: Nasal runtime error: No such member: set_lonlat at .../tutorial.nas line 280 called from .. /tutorial.nas, line 155 called from ../tutorial.nas line 110 I've noticed that in $FG_ROOT/data/Nasal/tutorial.nas, at line 280, there is a call to function geo.Coord.new().set_lonlat(...) But after checking $FG_ROOT/data/Nasal/geo.nas, saw that there is no method named set_lonlat, instead there is a method named set_latlon. I think this typo should be fixed. -- Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus on what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] navradio
On 6 Sep 2009, at 05:23, syd adams wrote: Hello. Unless Im doing something wrong , I'm now getting these errors trying to compile FG... navradio.cxx: In member function ‘virtual void FGNavRadio::update(double)’: navradio.cxx:362: error: ‘struct SGVec3d’ has no member named ‘sg’ navradio.cxx:362: error: ‘struct SGVec3d’ has no member named ‘sg’ navradio.cxx:363: error: ‘struct SGVec3d’ has no member named ‘sg’ make[3]: *** [navradio.o] Error 1 Ive tried compiling SG and FG starting from ./autogen.sh onward , but no luck. I'll try deleting the source for both and do a fresh checkout , but thought I'd mention the problem just in case. cheers It looks like something hasn't updated right - Mathias recently did some updates to SGVec3d (in SimGear), and corresponding updates in various client FG files, including navradio. On trunk, those .sg() references should now say .data() I believe. I'd check your navradio.cxx file is updating 'correctly' - sticky revisions, merge conflicts, etc. Assuming you don't have any edits to it, deleting the file and 'cvs up' should work. Regards, James -- Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus on what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] [flightgear-devel] Internal documentation of props.Node object
It would still be good to know if any built-in method does this too :) Like this? var piAsString = 3.1416; var piAsNumber = num(piAsString); Do you know these links? http://www.plausible.org/nasal/ http://www.plausible.org/nasal/lib.html Greetings, Torsten -- Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus on what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] [flightgear-devel] Critical error in tutorial system
I tried to make a tutorial including target tag and got this error: Nasal runtime error: No such member: set_lonlat at .../tutorial.nas line 280 called from .. /tutorial.nas, line 155 called from ../tutorial.nas line 110 I've noticed that in $FG_ROOT/data/Nasal/tutorial.nas, at line 280, there is a call to function geo.Coord.new().set_lonlat(...) But after checking $FG_ROOT/data/Nasal/geo.nas, saw that there is no method named set_lonlat, instead there is a method named set_latlon. I think this typo should be fixed. That has allready been fixed with a patch for Revision 1.23 on Jan, 15th. http://cvs.flightgear.org/viewvc/data/Nasal/tutorial.nas?view=log Torsten -- Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus on what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] [flightgear-devel] Internal documentation of props.Node object
I tried all of them as i said my problem was about initialization as string. By the way I ask a question to here * if and only if * i consume all sources to research. 2009/9/6 Torsten Dreyer tors...@t3r.de It would still be good to know if any built-in method does this too :) Like this? var piAsString = 3.1416; var piAsNumber = num(piAsString); Do you know these links? http://www.plausible.org/nasal/ http://www.plausible.org/nasal/lib.html Greetings, Torsten -- Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus on what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel -- Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus on what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] 1.9.2 release for FSWeekend?
On 09/06/2009 08:13 AM, Durk Talsma wrote: Hi James, I'm certainly open to the idea, but I don't think I'm able to manage that, since I'm both primarily responsible for organizing FSWeekend, and have been coordinating the releases in the last few years as well. Having two deadlines come up at the same time, in addition to teaching four courses (of which two are new - lots of preparation), a deadline for a grant proposal, and a major review paper (both Sept 30), as well as serving on a PhD defense committee and preparing a symposium talk (Nov 2 and 3 respectively), I'm not sure whether I'm alive by the start of FSWeekend. :-) For this reason, my personal preference would be to continue regular development until FSWeekend, than allow us a few weeks for bugfixing and Beta testing. That would put the release around christmas time, which would be a lot more of an easy time for me. I agree with Heiko (see earlier post in this thread) that we should have a more careful beta testing period. Last year we had a few last minute check-ins that turned out to bite us. Let's try to circumvent that. I'd prefer to shoot for having a strong beta to show at FSWeekend, then do a release around Christmas. I suppose this implies a feature freeze in the release around the 1st of October. My preference would be to do the release like we did the maintenance release -- from a git branch that contains only selected patch sets from CVS. In order to get users to actually test the beta, do we need to essentially cut a release? Tim -- Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus on what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] 1.9.2 release for FSWeekend?
Hi, Though I prefer an official release, I can live with beta release so we can avoid killing Durk ;-) I guess it is a good to have a release (in either official or beta) since we can have lots of feedback reports that will improve the quality of FG for the scheduled release in the next Christmas. I also want to add that we have enough features and bug-fixes for beta release. Shader effects and generic input device are in progress, but I guess we can improve these by FSWeekend (or Christmas). I get lots of feedback reports from Mac users on every official release, but I have less than ten for every snapshot release. So cutting a release is more effective on Mac platform in terms of collecting feedback reports. By the way, is the version number going to be 1.9.2? I think it should be 1.10.0 since it is not a maintenance release. If we are going to have shadow effect working by Christmas, then we could go to 2.0.0. Best, Tat On Sep 6, 2009, at 9:36 PM, Tim Moore wrote: On 09/06/2009 08:13 AM, Durk Talsma wrote: Hi James, I'm certainly open to the idea, but I don't think I'm able to manage that, since I'm both primarily responsible for organizing FSWeekend, and have been coordinating the releases in the last few years as well. Having two deadlines come up at the same time, in addition to teaching four courses (of which two are new - lots of preparation), a deadline for a grant proposal, and a major review paper (both Sept 30), as well as serving on a PhD defense committee and preparing a symposium talk (Nov 2 and 3 respectively), I'm not sure whether I'm alive by the start of FSWeekend. :-) For this reason, my personal preference would be to continue regular development until FSWeekend, than allow us a few weeks for bugfixing and Beta testing. That would put the release around christmas time, which would be a lot more of an easy time for me. I agree with Heiko (see earlier post in this thread) that we should have a more careful beta testing period. Last year we had a few last minute check-ins that turned out to bite us. Let's try to circumvent that. I'd prefer to shoot for having a strong beta to show at FSWeekend, then do a release around Christmas. I suppose this implies a feature freeze in the release around the 1st of October. My preference would be to do the release like we did the maintenance release -- from a git branch that contains only selected patch sets from CVS. In order to get users to actually test the beta, do we need to essentially cut a release? Tim -- Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus on what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel -- Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus on what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] 1.9.2 release for FSWeekend?
Hi Tat, On Sun, Sep 6, 2009 at 11:16 PM, Tatsuhiro Nishiokatat.fgmac...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Though I prefer an official release, I can live with beta release so we can avoid killing Durk ;-) I guess it is a good to have a release (in either official or beta) since we can have lots of feedback reports that will improve the quality of FG for the scheduled release in the next Christmas. I also want to add that we have enough features and bug-fixes for beta release. Shader effects and generic input device are in progress, but I guess we can improve these by FSWeekend (or Christmas). If you wait until something has improved, then you are running a risk of never releasing something as it's still improving. I get lots of feedback reports from Mac users on every official release, but I have less than ten for every snapshot release. So cutting a release is more effective on Mac platform in terms of collecting feedback reports. By the way, is the version number going to be 1.9.2? I think it should be 1.10.0 since it is not a maintenance release. If we are going to have shadow effect working by Christmas, then we could go to 2.0.0. Current release is 1.9.1 so I'd be happy with 1.9.2. Using 1.10 is out as it's less than 1.9.1. Which brings up a good question, do we call the next version of FlightGear 2.0? Regards George -- Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus on what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Source code control systems
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Re: [Flightgear-devel] 1.9.2 release for FSWeekend?
Hi George, On Sep 6, 2009, at 10:38 PM, George Patterson wrote: On Sun, Sep 6, 2009 at 11:16 PM, Tatsuhiro Nishiokatat.fgmac...@gmail.com wrote: Hi,Though I prefer an official release, I can live with beta release so we can avoid killing Durk ;-) I guess it is a good to have a release (in either official or beta) since we can have lots of feedback reports that will improve the quality of FG for the scheduled release in the next Christmas. I also want to add that we have enough features and bug-fixes for beta release. Shader effects and generic input device are in progress, but I guess we can improve these by FSWeekend (or Christmas). If you wait until something has improved, then you are running a risk of never releasing something as it's still improving. I don't get what you mean by this, since none of my post above said to wait until improvement, didn't it? I said I'm for releasing, not for waiting. By the way, is the version number going to be 1.9.2? I think it should be 1.10.0 since it is not a maintenance release. If we are going to have shadow effect working by Christmas, then we could go to 2.0.0. Current release is 1.9.1 so I'd be happy with 1.9.2. Using 1.10 is out as it's less than 1.9.1. Which brings up a good question, do we call the next version of FlightGear 2.0? Maybe you misunderstand the versioning system. 1.10.0 IS newer than 1.9.1 with no doubt. if 1.10.0 is less than 1.9.1, then 10 is smaller than 9. Plus, 1.10.0 is very different from 1.1.0. We talked about how we should give a version number, and (I believe that) we ended up with the following consensus: Major version (first number) for big step: (e.g. shadows and landing lights for 2.0.0 IIRC) Minor version (second number) for feature improvement, basically for scheduled release. Micro version (third number) for maintenance release. This is why we got 1.9.1 after 1.9.0 (since it was a bug-fix version of 1.9.0). With this rule, the next release should be 1.10.0 (or 1.10.0 beta) unless shadows and landing lights will be implemented until then. If the next release actually is a maintenance release without new features like shaders and generic input device, then it will be 1.9.2. Tat -- Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus on what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] navradio
After many tries , deleting navradio , doing make clean , make distclean,I finally had to delete the FG and SG source and do a new checkout . Now everything compiles fine . Another reason I'd love to see CVS gone :) -- Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus on what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] [flightgear-devel] Internal documentation of props.Node object
2009/9/6 Torsten Dreyer tors...@t3r.de It would still be good to know if any built-in method does this too :) Like this? var piAsString = 3.1416; var piAsNumber = num(piAsString); On Sun, Sep 6, 2009 at 1:12 PM, Behlül UÇARucarbeh...@gmail.com wrote: I tried all of them as i said my problem was about initialization as string. By the way I ask a question to here * if and only if * i consume all sources to research. So, why isn't num() good for you as Torsten said? -- Csaba/Jester -- Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus on what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
[Flightgear-devel] Solid MP Models
Sometime recently MP Models silently became solid. IMHO, this is a horrid state. Aircraft now crash when new aircraft appear at the same spawn site. To say I am upset about this feature is an understatement. I feel I am no longer able to use the public multi-player servers. Ron -- Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus on what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Solid MP Models
Hi, I can remember that a whole long time ago it already happened again... It was wished feature though there was the problem that noone could use it because they always chrashed because starting at the same spot. And the wish came up to have parking spots on the airports... Now we have them- why not keep this feature ( as we want to make things right!) But we have to extend it: how to make it switchable (if possible) ? So the user can choose if he wants to have them solid or not. One problem though I found with this new state: the ground objects (buildings) aren't really solid anymore The plane surfaces yes, the walls not Regards HHSstill in work: http://www.hoerbird.net/galerie.html But already done: http://www.hoerbird.net/reisen.html - Ursprüngliche Mail Von: Ron Jensen w...@jentronics.com An: FlightGear Dev flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Gesendet: Sonntag, den 6. September 2009, 21:42:36 Uhr Betreff: [Flightgear-devel] Solid MP Models Sometime recently MP Models silently became solid. IMHO, this is a horrid state. Aircraft now crash when new aircraft appear at the same spawn site.. To say I am upset about this feature is an understatement. I feel I am no longer able to use the public multi-player servers. Ron -- Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus on what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel -- Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus on what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Solid MP Models
Just tried at KSFO , hadn't noticed it before ... http://imagebin.org/62739 http://imagebin.org/62740 It would be nice to keep this , if startup wasnt a problem :) -- Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus on what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Solid MP Models
Hey, Ron Jensen wrote: Aircraft now crash when new aircraft appear at the same spawn site. Isn't that what happens in RL too? :) Maybey this will finaly force new users to spawn from parking spots? It will make ATCing a lot easier and more intersting, guiding aircraft to the runways instead of only giving people clearence for takeoff when they ask. It would also prevent occupied runways on approach. I do agree that it is really ignoring to see your plane crash because someone spawned on you. Would a time switch help with that? Eg. MP-Colission gets active after 30 seconds or so. So you got some time to move your aircraft to a free space... Regards, Gijs _ 25GB gratis online harde schijf http://skydrive.live.com-- Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus on what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] New Joystick Definition, modification of Cessna Citation-X, remark about js_demo.exe and fgjs.exe
Hello , Mike, I removed the autostart from that one on purpose, I take it everyone wants it back ? -- Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus on what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Solid MP Models
Ron Jensen wrote: Sometime recently MP Models silently became solid. IMHO, this is a horrid state. Aircraft now crash when new aircraft appear at the same spawn site. To say I am upset about this feature is an understatement. I feel I am no longer able to use the public multi-player servers. Ron Just put --runway=28L in your .fgfsrc or on the command line if you want to join in the MP madn^H^H^Hgoodness at KSFO. But you are right, before there is talk of a further release we need to either randomise the starting runway or parking position. At busy times I have had to try up to a dozen times before respawning at KSFO. Again this comes back to the game vs sim conumdrum. In the long long run, I can see the project forking over this but that's for another discussion.. Best Regards Willie -- Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus on what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Solid MP Models
Am Sonntag, den 06.09.2009, 19:53 + schrieb Heiko Schulz: Hi, I can remember that a whole long time ago it already happened again... It was wished feature though there was the problem that noone could use it because they always chrashed because starting at the same spot. And the wish came up to have parking spots on the airports... Now we have them- why not keep this feature ( as we want to make things right!) I like the new solidness too. It gives some exciting possibilities. E.g entering Multiplayer Aircraft with the Bluebird walker is now possible. Maybe loading Vehicles into Aircraft is now possible too. Mooring multiple boats or Seaplanes together without having them floating into each other. Finally camping at the Runway starting point will most likely upset any ATC. This way people might begin to take care not to stand in the way. But we have to extend it: how to make it switchable (if possible) ? So the user can choose if he wants to have them solid or not. One problem though I found with this new state: the ground objects (buildings) aren't really solid anymore The plane surfaces yes, the walls not walls have never been solid (unfortunately), unless they are sloped Greetings Regards HHSstill in work: http://www.hoerbird.net/galerie.html But already done: http://www.hoerbird.net/reisen.html - Ursprüngliche Mail Von: Ron Jensen w...@jentronics.com An: FlightGear Dev flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Gesendet: Sonntag, den 6. September 2009, 21:42:36 Uhr Betreff: [Flightgear-devel] Solid MP Models Sometime recently MP Models silently became solid. IMHO, this is a horrid state. Aircraft now crash when new aircraft appear at the same spawn site.. To say I am upset about this feature is an understatement. I feel I am no longer able to use the public multi-player servers. Ron -- Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus on what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel -- Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus on what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel -- Detlef Faber http://www.sol2500.net/flightgear -- Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus on what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Solid MP Models
On Sun, 2009-09-06 at 21:12 +0100, willie wrote: Ron Jensen wrote: Sometime recently MP Models silently became solid. IMHO, this is a horrid state. Aircraft now crash when new aircraft appear at the same spawn site. To say I am upset about this feature is an understatement. I feel I am no longer able to use the public multi-player servers. Ron Just put --runway=28L in your .fgfsrc or on the command line if you want to join in the MP madn^H^H^Hgoodness at KSFO. Actually, I was at KNUQ the last time. But you are right, before there is talk of a further release we need to either randomise the starting runway or parking position. At busy times I have had to try up to a dozen times before respawning at KSFO. As far as spawning at a parking spot, even if you did, you would end up properly taxiing to the same end of runway spawn spot. Again this comes back to the game vs sim conumdrum. In the long long run, I can see the project forking over this but that's for another discussion.. And this is definitely a game feature... Ron -- Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus on what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
[Flightgear-devel] navradio
I updated SimGear, fgfs source and data yesterday for both my desktop and notebook. The glide slope is now broken. The angle seems correct but it now acts as if the ILS is always from 0 ft MSL. I tried the rw 23 ILS at KBTL with field elevation of 952 ft, rw 23 at KBJC with field elevation of 5670 ft and rw 28 at KSFO with field elevation near 0. At KSFO, all seems correct. At KBTL, I flew outbound at 1250 ft MSL and the GS crossed center at the OM. That was 950 ft too low, or about the field elevation. Rockey Mountain Metro is too high to make the same check. I put cout nav_elev = nav_elev endl; after line 361 and un commented cout dist = x height = y endl; after line 594 in navradio.cxx. This produced at KBTL and the pa24-250 the following in the log window: creating 3D noise texture... DONE KI266 dme indicator #0 initialized Nasal Electrical System Initialized power up nav_elev = 0 nav_elev = 930 nav_elev = 0 nav_elev = 930 nav_elev = 0 nav_elev = 930 nav_elev = 0 nav_elev = 930 nav_elev = 0 nav_elev = 930 nav_elev = 0 dist = 553.906 height = 281.795 nav_elev = 930 nav_elev = 0 dist = 553.906 height = 281.795 nav_elev = 930 nav_elev = 0 dist = 553.906 height = 281.795 nav_elev = 930 nav_elev = 0 The height is correct. It looks like every other call of FGNavRadio::updateWithPower gets the wrong value for nav_elev. Hope this helps find the bug. Dave P -- Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus on what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Source code control systems
On 09/03/2009 06:07 PM, Curtis Olson wrote: On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 4:10 AM, Tim Moore timo...@redhat.com mailto:timo...@redhat.com wrote: It would be a pity to move from CVS and end up with SVN, even temporarily. First, let's be clear that some other system means Git. Several of us already use git for working with Flightgear. If anyone is using another system to interact with Flightgear's CVS, I'm not aware of it. There are at least two Git mirrors of of Flightgear and Simgear, so the conversion work has already been done. As long as this discussion is branching off in several directions, is it worth discussing mercurial versus git? code.google.com http://code.google.com supports mercurial (hg). I have never used either. I've done a bit of googling, but much of the information I've found has been dated, or not written in a way that convinces me of the author's objectivity. ... The advantages of distributed version control systems over centeralized ones like SVN are numerous, and I won't hash them out here unless it becomes necessary :) code.google.com http://code.google.com does support Mercurial (also known as Hg), and I would urge you to consider that as a target instead of SVN. ... From what I've read, hg and git seem to be converging in similar directions and each tool seems to be adding features to address their own weaknesses in comparison with the other. My point about trying hg boils down to this: if you absolutely must use code.google.com because the infrastructure support is so compelling, then hg is the way to go. I'd deal with using hg, perhaps via git. But you should remember that the fg developer expertise lies very much with git. If you're willing to consider other hosting sites than google, savannah.org and github.com are worth checking out; we might be able to get opendesktop.org to host us as well. Just as I'm writing this I am remembering an old grad school class project I did with two other guys. We created a system based on CVS which would automatically replicate a CVS repository across all participating systems. This was back when we were all on dialup, and you usually dialed into a bulletin board system, not an ISP. (Am I dating myself?) :-) So we set up uucp bewteen our home machines and all the communication was done through emails that were automatically intercepted and parsed on the receiving end. The uucp subsystem took care of automatically dialing up the other computers if there was something in the mail queue to be sent. There was a token for each file and you had to have the token in order to do a commit. If you didn't have the token, a token request was broadcast (over email/uucp) and eventually it would be sent back to you and you could finalize the commit. Believe it or not, this system actually worked and worked rather well to maintain synchronization between distributed repository copies across a non-internet connected collection of machines ... back in the days before DSL and cable when it was actually difficult to get connected up to the internet. Sounds a lot like CVSup. I haven't checked it out yet, but I did browse it. I did notice that you imported the expanded CVS $Id$ strings into SVN, which is going to get very messy. At the least you should do the CVS checkout with -kk. I didn't do a cvs checkout, but just ran cvs2svn ... I wonder if it has an option for this? Nothing is jumping out at me yet ... I don't know the tool, but I think you want --keywords=off. Tim -- Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus on what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Solid MP Models
Finally camping at the Runway starting point will most likely upset any ATC. This way people might begin to take care not to stand in the way. You'll need something to combat that with people that do it on purpose. I would suggest extending Anders mute player function to not only ignore text from them, but not display or collide against their aircraft model. g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_! -- Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus on what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
[Flightgear-devel] Reloading a protocol file
Hi all. Would it or could it be possible to reload a protocol file as the sim is running. The problem is that small changes to the protocol file eg simply changing the format means restarting the whole sim which unfortunately on my machine takes time. The only parts of interest would be the contents of the inputoutput's chunktags. At a minimum what would be helpful would be just to reload the format. Then changing the /node/ and even adding new chunks. If its not possible for technical reasons, pointers would be appreciated. regards Pete ac001 -- Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus on what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Solid MP Models
Collision detection is a desirable feature and and a separate issue from player muting. I suggest collision be its own option defaulting to off so as not to affect new participants just getting their start as KSFO. -Gary On Sun, Sep 6, 2009 at 7:00 PM, Gene Bucklege...@deltasoft.com wrote: Finally camping at the Runway starting point will most likely upset any ATC. This way people might begin to take care not to stand in the way. You'll need something to combat that with people that do it on purpose. I would suggest extending Anders mute player function to not only ignore text from them, but not display or collide against their aircraft model. g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_! -- Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus on what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel -- Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus on what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Reloading a protocol file
Would it or could it be possible to reload a protocol file as the sim is running. I'll second this one. I'm working on adding FG support to RJGlass and the little tweaks are killing me with 30+ second cycle times. :) g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_! -- Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus on what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
