Re: [Flightgear-devel] 737-300 APU

2006-03-12 Thread Markus Barenhoff
Innis Cunningham wrote: > > I would have thought that the AC power sources, engine,apu and external, > would all appear the same to the electrical system.AC power from the engine > and apu driven generators is not available till the power is of the > correct quality > I.E 115/200v 400hz.So I woul

Re: [Flightgear-devel] pa24-250

2006-03-12 Thread Chris Metzler
On Sun, 12 Mar 2006 17:15:38 -0700 Dave Perry wrote: > > A lot of POH numbers are in the README.pa24-250 file. Here are the > numbers I fly. 90-100 mph on base and 85 -90 mph on short final. POH > say 95 mph no flaps and 82 mph full flaps for approach speeds. The > cruise and stall speeds a

Re: Prop discs in 3D models (was Re: [Flightgear-devel] pa24-250 & controls.nas [was: Re: Are the sourceforge lists not working?])

2006-03-12 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Sun, 12 Mar 2006 13:31:49 -0800, Andy wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Jon S. Berndt wrote: > > David Megginson wrote: > > > I agree with Melchoir on this point, and, in fact, I have an > > > unbiased reference point. I took my 13-year-old daughter and her > > > friend for a one-hour f

Re: [Flightgear-devel] pa24-250

2006-03-12 Thread Georg Vollnhals
Dave Perry schrieb: David Luff wrote: Hi Davids (Luff and Perry) :-) this was a great discussion for me, I love this bird because it is "real pilot proved" and therefore very valuable for people like me with only some hours experience as co-pilot on fixed wings (real life). Dave Perry, kee

Re: [Flightgear-devel] 737-300 APU

2006-03-12 Thread Innis Cunningham
Markus Barenhoff writes for my electrical scripts if modeled a nasal class, which is attached to a enginge and produces power (by reading n1, going up with voltage to a threshold and than supplying a constant voltage). i've used them to model the generators which are attached to the enginges.

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Next FlightGear Release - upcoming.

2006-03-12 Thread Martin Spott
"David Megginson" wrote: > The problem might be that TerraGear is now cropping against just the > landmass -- it actually has to crop against the union of the landmass, > islands, lakes, and everything else. I'm pretty sure this is the correct explanation - even without looking at the code :-) T

Re: [Flightgear-devel] pa24-250

2006-03-12 Thread Dave Perry
David Luff wrote: The new pa24-250 is a really nice model, and really nice to (virtually) fly - nice one Dave! It makes a really nice gradual step up from the c172p/pa28-161. Thanks! I needed that. What motivated me to make this model was the desire to practice instrument approaches and ins

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Next FlightGear Release - upcoming.

2006-03-12 Thread Martin Spott
"Curtis L. Olson" wrote: > Martin: please explain again in very great detail for me how exactly > GSHHS has been improved? I didn't compare the shorelines of the whole world between old and new version :-) I actually had a look at a few places (my personal favourites) and noticed something that

Re: [Flightgear-devel] pa24-250

2006-03-12 Thread Josh Babcock
David Luff wrote: > > True - I agree with both of these! I hate seeing a pilots arms and so-forth > in first-person view, but don't mind a pilot in external view. In external > view it would be nice to bind the no. of occupants to the weight and balance > settings. But the property makes *m

Re: [Flightgear-devel] 737-300 APU

2006-03-12 Thread Josh Babcock
Ampere K. Hardraade wrote: > If I recall correctly, they do produce thrust to some extent. Perhaps one > can > model the APU as an engine with minimal thrust? > > Ampere > > That sort of depends on what kind of APU it is, and how it is mounted. I recall seeing a few mounted sideways throug

Re: [Flightgear-devel] 737-300 APU

2006-03-12 Thread Ampere K. Hardraade
On Sunday 12 March 2006 16:31, Markus Barenhoff wrote: > for my electrical scripts if modeled a nasal class, which is attached to > a enginge and produces power (by reading n1, going up with voltage to a > threshold and than supplying a constant voltage). i've used them to > model the generators wh

Re: [Flightgear-devel] 737-300 APU

2006-03-12 Thread Ampere K. Hardraade
On Sunday 12 March 2006 15:29, David Megginson wrote: > That's an excellent question, and one that I hadn't thought about > before.  The APU is like an engine-driven generator or alternator > because it produces electricity, but it is like an actual engine > because it draws its own fuel from the t

Re: [Flightgear-devel] pa24-250

2006-03-12 Thread David Luff
Josh Babcock writes: > David Luff wrote: > > > The yokes look nice, but cover up a lot of the instruments and switches. > > When flying the sim with a yoke (as opposed to mouse or k/board), there's > > also a good argument to be made for not needing/wanting a virtual yoke as > > well. I wond

Re: [Flightgear-devel] pa24-250 & controls.nas [was: Re: Are the sourceforge lists not working?]

2006-03-12 Thread Dave Perry
Melchior FRANZ wrote: * Dave Perry -- Sunday 12 March 2006 15:08: If there are other existing problems with the pa24-250, you or any other user or developer of fgfs are welcome to comment. There's only one point that makes it barely flyable for me. I'm not a pilot, and when I'm sittin

Re: [Flightgear-devel] pa24-250

2006-03-12 Thread Josh Babcock
David Luff wrote: > The yokes look nice, but cover up a lot of the instruments and switches. > When flying the sim with a yoke (as opposed to mouse or k/board), there's > also a good argument to be made for not needing/wanting a virtual yoke as > well. I wonder if the pilot's yoke couldn't be

[Flightgear-devel] pa24-250

2006-03-12 Thread David Luff
The new pa24-250 is a really nice model, and really nice to (virtually) fly - nice one Dave! It makes a really nice gradual step up from the c172p/pa28-161. However, because it's so good, it's likely that you'll get more feedback on the problems, so here goes... The cockpit gives a nice immer

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Bug in starting runway selection @ KCGS.

2006-03-12 Thread David Megginson
On 12/03/06, David Luff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > OK, this is partially fixed in CVS now. fgfs --airport=KCGS will now put you > on the helipad (at KCGS), since that is the closest to the default heading of > 270. The J3 Cub could *almost* manage that. Maybe we need a Super Cub option. A

Re: [Flightgear-devel] 737-300 APU

2006-03-12 Thread Markus Barenhoff
Justin Smithies wrote: > On Sunday 12 March 2006 20:29, David Megginson wrote: >> On 12/03/06, Markus Barenhoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> still working on the electrical systems of the 737-300, i now need the >>> apu (currently my "apu" constantly supplies power but does not emulate >>> anythi

Re: Prop discs in 3D models (was Re: [Flightgear-devel] pa24-250 & controls.nas [was: Re: Are the sourceforge lists not working?])

2006-03-12 Thread Andy Ross
Jon S. Berndt wrote: > David Megginson wrote: > > I agree with Melchoir on this point, and, in fact, I have an > > unbiased reference point. I took my 13-year-old daughter and her > > friend for a one-hour flight yesterday in beautiful, sunny > > late-winter weather. While we were taxiing at 1000

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Bug in starting runway selection @ KCGS.

2006-03-12 Thread David Luff
Chris Metzler writes: > > KCGS has a single runway, 15/33. > > Starting FG with --runway=15 or with --runway=33 works just fine. > > Starting FG with no runway specified at all, OTOH, produces a message > of "Failed to find a good runway for KCGS", after which the plane is > placed at KSFO. >

Re: [Flightgear-devel] 737-300 APU

2006-03-12 Thread Justin Smithies
On Sunday 12 March 2006 20:29, David Megginson wrote: > On 12/03/06, Markus Barenhoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > still working on the electrical systems of the 737-300, i now need the > > apu (currently my "apu" constantly supplies power but does not emulate > > anything else). is there a gener

RE: Prop discs in 3D models (was Re: [Flightgear-devel] pa24-250 & controls.nas [was: Re: Are the sourceforge lists not working?])

2006-03-12 Thread Jon S. Berndt
> I agree with Melchoir on this point, and, in fact, I have an unbiased > reference point. I took my 13-year-old daughter and her friend for a > one-hour flight yesterday in beautiful, sunny late-winter weather. > While we were taxiing at 1000 rpm, the propeller was -- just barely -- > visible as

Re: [Flightgear-devel] 737-300 APU

2006-03-12 Thread David Megginson
On 12/03/06, Markus Barenhoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > still working on the electrical systems of the 737-300, i now need the > apu (currently my "apu" constantly supplies power but does not emulate > anything else). is there a generic way of "defining" a apu (i've seen > some APU properties i

Prop discs in 3D models (was Re: [Flightgear-devel] pa24-250 & controls.nas [was: Re: Are the sourceforge lists not working?])

2006-03-12 Thread David Megginson
On 12/03/06, Melchior FRANZ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > There's only one point that makes it barely flyable for me. I'm not > a pilot, and when I'm sitting behind a "propeller", it's mostly a > ventilator or an electric heater. But there was a consensus among > a few pilots here on the list, that

[Flightgear-devel] Re: pa24-250 & controls.nas [was: Re: Are the sourceforge lists not working?]

2006-03-12 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Melchior FRANZ -- Sunday 12 March 2006 18:47: > controls.flapsDown = func(x) { > if (x) { > interpolate(flaps, x, abs(flaps.getValue() - x) * > flap_time); This shouldn't really use x, but rather ((x + 1) / 2.0), to map -1..1 to 0..1. m.

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Helipads ( was: Bug in starting runway selection @ KCGS. )

2006-03-12 Thread David Luff
Chris Metzler writes: > > It's not universal to that situation -- I just started going through > apt.dat airports with both a normal (non-water) runway and a helipad, > and (in order in apt.dat) 8L3, LA77, 97WA, and 1LA4 all loaded OK; > but then 7X8 produced exactly the same behavior as KCGS. I

[Flightgear-devel] 737-300 APU

2006-03-12 Thread Markus Barenhoff
hi everyone, still working on the electrical systems of the 737-300, i now need the apu (currently my "apu" constantly supplies power but does not emulate anything else). is there a generic way of "defining" a apu (i've seen some APU properties in the tree, but don't think they do anything), or sh

[Flightgear-devel] pa24-250 & controls.nas [was: Re: Are the sourceforge lists not working?]

2006-03-12 Thread Melchior FRANZ
Note: less boring stuff on the bottom :-) * Dave Perry -- Sunday 12 March 2006 15:08: > Melchior FRANZ wrote: > Copying the list was not my intention. Sigh. I wanted to keep this private because I wanted you only to know what I considered unfortunate design. If you wouldn't agree with some or a

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: Are the sourceforge lists not working?

2006-03-12 Thread Dave Perry
Melchior FRANZ wrote: * Dave Perry -- Sunday 12 March 2006 04:20: By the way, Melchior FRANZ sent me a note off-list [... report ...] My response was also off-list; perhaps I should have copied you. If he is satisfied with my explanation(s), No he isn't. But he doesn't like when priva

[Flightgear-devel] Whites spaces in pathnames: Buggy SGPath behavior?

2006-03-12 Thread Durk Talsma
Hi Folks, I just ran into something that looks like a bug in the SimGear SGPath class. I committed a traffic manager patch yesterday, which prevents non-existing aircraft models from being created as an AIModels object, by testing whether the SGPath exists. Traffic/Schedule.cxx, around line 3

[Flightgear-devel] Re: New MP server

2006-03-12 Thread Julien Pierru
oh and i forgot to mention the server is located on the East Coast of the US.

[Flightgear-devel] New MP server

2006-03-12 Thread Julien Pierru
Hi all I'm hosting a full time MP server for both the stable and cvs version. The servers are relayed to pigeon's and flightbase's servers and theirs are relayed to me. You can join at: stable: flamebunny.homelinux.net:5000 cvs: flamebunny.homelinux.net:5002 Curt could you add a mpserver name to

Re: [Flightgear-devel] 737-300 electrical systems

2006-03-12 Thread Markus Barenhoff
Paul Surgeon wrote: On Friday 10 March 2006 00:36, Markus Barenhoff wrote: Paul Surgeon wrote: On Thursday 09 March 2006 04:37, Markus Barenhoff wrote: i am currently writting a simulation of the 737-300 electrical system for flightgear. it' s still work in progress. now to my question: is

[Flightgear-devel] Re: Are the sourceforge lists not working?

2006-03-12 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Dave Perry -- Sunday 12 March 2006 04:20: > By the way, Melchior FRANZ sent me a note off-list [... report ...] > My response was also off-list; perhaps I should have copied you. > If he is satisfied with my explanation(s), No he isn't. But he doesn't like when private communication gets reporte