Re: [Flightgear-devel] git bundle

2010-05-18 Thread Alex Perry
On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 6:17 PM, Peter Morgan wrote: > On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 7:12 PM, Csaba wrote: > > During discussions on IRC, the idea came up of creating a downloadable > > bundle of the new gitorious fg-data repository. > What I want is for a someone to aqquire the "terrain for swanea and s

Re: [Flightgear-devel] git bundle

2010-05-18 Thread Peter Morgan
On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 7:12 PM, Csaba Halász wrote: During discussions on IRC, the idea came up of creating a downloadable bundle of the new gitorious fg-data repository. The primary reason is to make the initial clone operation resumable in case the connection breaks. Our understanding is that

Re: [Flightgear-devel] GIT or CVS - Confusion

2010-05-12 Thread Martin Spott
Heiko Schulz wrote: > So the next question is: As far as I can tell, details are being arranged after the repositories have been migrated properly - which, obviously, is the most relevant step now. Cheers, Martin. -- Unix _IS_ user friendly - it's just selective about who its friends

Re: [Flightgear-devel] GIT or CVS - Confusion

2010-05-12 Thread Gary Neely
On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 4:37 PM, Heiko Schulz wrote: > > So the next question is: > Will be the system of permission to upload things to the repo be the same > like we had with CVS? > > My opinion on this is, that it was not always easy to maintain your work of > you don't have permission to upl

Re: [Flightgear-devel] GIT or CVS - Confusion

2010-05-12 Thread Heiko Schulz
.2010: > Von: Torsten Dreyer > Betreff: Re: [Flightgear-devel] GIT or CVS - Confusion > An: "FlightGear developers discussions" > > Datum: Mittwoch, 12. Mai, 2010 22:16 Uhr > Short answer: > > http://www.flightgear.org/cvs.html > > Torsten > > Am 12

Re: [Flightgear-devel] GIT or CVS - Confusion

2010-05-12 Thread Torsten Dreyer
Short answer: http://www.flightgear.org/cvs.html Torsten Am 12.05.10 22:02, schrieb Heiko Schulz: > > Hi @all, > > I'm confused- CVS seems to be down. But in the forum I heard rumors that we > now changed to GIT finally. > > The official FlightGear page doesn't show anything like that we switch

Re: [Flightgear-devel] [GIT] misc fixes

2009-12-09 Thread Erik Hofman
Csaba Halász wrote: > 2) fix a crash in SGSoundMgr::stop() due to invalid iterator usage: > http://gitorious.org/~jester/fg/jesters-sg-clone/commit/12604fb231631252b13af1338020926e2ca1a605 > Thanks to Vivian for reporting. That one still bites me once in a while. I don't like itterators all that

Re: [Flightgear-devel] [GIT] various fixes including atcvoice, commlist and nans

2009-10-26 Thread Tim Moore
Original Message- >> From: Csaba Halász [mailto:csaba.hal...@gmail.com] >> Sent: 26 October 2009 16:47 >> To: FlightGear developers discussions >> Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] [GIT] various fixes including >> atcvoice,commlist and nans >> >> On Mon, Oct

Re: [Flightgear-devel] [GIT] various fixes including atcvoice, commlist and nans

2009-10-26 Thread Alan Teeder
discussions' > Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] [GIT] various fixes including > atcvoice,commlist and nans > > With the current CVS and VC++ 2008 Express I now get this compilation > error: > > "Compiling... > fg_init.cxx > ..\..\..\src\Main\fg_init.cxx(149) : err

Re: [Flightgear-devel] [GIT] various fixes including atcvoice, commlist and nans

2009-10-26 Thread Alan Teeder
quot;#include " in perfomancedb.cxx, FGDeviceConfiguration.cxx, and simgear/scene/material/matmodel.cxx and simgear/scene/model/model.cxx > -Original Message- > From: Csaba Halász [mailto:csaba.hal...@gmail.com] > Sent: 26 October 2009 16:47 > To: FlightGear developers discussions &

Re: [Flightgear-devel] [GIT] various fixes including atcvoice, commlist and nans

2009-10-26 Thread stefan riemens
Excuse me, sorry for wasting time... Indeed a cvs conflict! 2009/10/26, Csaba Halász : > On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 5:18 PM, stefan riemens > wrote: >> Unfortunately, this has broken mingw x-compilation for me: >> ATCVoice.cxx:42: error: expected unqualified-id before '<<' token > > Please make sure

Re: [Flightgear-devel] [GIT] various fixes including atcvoice, commlist and nans

2009-10-26 Thread Csaba Halász
On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 5:18 PM, stefan riemens wrote: > Unfortunately, this has broken mingw x-compilation for me: > ATCVoice.cxx:42: error: expected unqualified-id before '<<' token Please make sure you don't have a cvs conflict. Line 42 should be "using namespace std;" and no << around there.

Re: [Flightgear-devel] [GIT] various fixes including atcvoice, commlist and nans

2009-10-26 Thread stefan riemens
Unfortunately, this has broken mingw x-compilation for me: i686-pc-mingw32-g++ -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I../../src/Include -I../.. -I../../src -I/usr/i686-pc-mingw32/sys-root/mingw/include -O2 -g -pipe -Wall -Wp,-D_FORTIFY_SOURCE=2 -fexceptions --param=ssp-buffer-size=4 -mms-bitfields -D_REENTRANT -

Re: [Flightgear-devel] [GIT] various fixes including atcvoice, commlist and nans

2009-10-26 Thread Erik Hofman
Csaba Halász wrote: > On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 10:08 AM, James Turner wrote: >> >> For these kind of fixes, I'd much rather you committed them straight >> away to CVS, because it's easy for anyone to look at a single NaN fix >> (or whatever) and convince themselves it's correct - or raise an >> obj

Re: [Flightgear-devel] [GIT] various fixes including atcvoice, commlist and nans

2009-10-26 Thread Csaba Halász
On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 10:08 AM, James Turner wrote: > > > For these kind of fixes, I'd much rather you committed them straight > away to CVS, because it's easy for anyone to look at a single NaN fix > (or whatever) and convince themselves it's correct - or raise an > objection. When many trivial

Re: [Flightgear-devel] [GIT] various fixes including atcvoice, commlist and nans

2009-10-26 Thread James Turner
On 25 Oct 2009, at 16:35, Csaba Halász wrote: > Hence, I didn't > request a merge via gitorious so as to give the respective "owners" of > the areas I changed a chance to comment on and/or commit my patches > and not to put this burden on poor Tim :) I can of course supply > diffs to anybody not

Re: [Flightgear-devel] [GIT] various fixes including atcvoice, commlist and nans

2009-10-25 Thread Vivian Meazza
Csaba Halász > Hi! > > I have made some updates available from my gitorious repo (URL: > http://gitorious.org/~jester), on various branches. Here is a little > summary: > > * branch atcvoice: has a cleaned-up version of > FGATCVoice::WriteMessage synced to the current state of the sound > syst

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Git & MS Windows

2009-02-08 Thread Vivian Meazza
Melchior > > MS Windows users who are interested in Git might want to check > this out: > > http://code.google.com/p/gitextensions/ > > Nice screenshots there as well. :-) > Now installed, at second attempt. On brief acquaintance is seems OK. Certainly worth further investigation. Thanks f

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Git & MS Windows

2009-02-08 Thread Vivian Meazza
Melchior > > MS Windows users who are interested in Git might want to check > this out: > > http://code.google.com/p/gitextensions/ > > Nice screenshots there as well. :-) > > m. > I will try it - pity about the "intergation" though Vivian

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Git & MS Windows

2009-02-08 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Sun, 8 Feb 2009 16:15:51 +0100, Melchior wrote in message <200902081615.51...@rk-nord.at>: > MS Windows users who are interested in Git might want to check > this out: > > http://code.google.com/p/gitextensions/ > > Nice screenshots there as well. :-) ..aye, how much in the tutorials is

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Git advice

2009-01-08 Thread Tim Moore
John Denker wrote: > On 01/07/2009 01:19 PM, James Turner wrote: >> On 7 Jan 2009, at 19:05, Tim Moore wrote: >> >>> I like to fetch and then rebase my local work without merging; it >>> makes >>> it much easier to get the commits into CVS via git-cvsexportcommit. >>> When we move >>> to git an

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Git advice

2009-01-07 Thread John Denker
On 01/07/2009 01:19 PM, James Turner wrote: > On 7 Jan 2009, at 19:05, Tim Moore wrote: > >> I like to fetch and then rebase my local work without merging; it >> makes >> it much easier to get the commits into CVS via git-cvsexportcommit. >> When we move >> to git and publish (sometimes) perso

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Git advice

2009-01-07 Thread James Turner
On 7 Jan 2009, at 19:05, Tim Moore wrote: > I like to fetch and then rebase my local work without merging; it > makes > it much easier to get the commits into CVS via git-cvsexportcommit. > When we move > to git and publish (sometimes) personal branches, I'll probably > switch back to > "gi

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Git advice

2009-01-07 Thread Tim Moore
James Turner wrote: > On 27 Dec 2008, at 15:04, Tim Moore wrote: > >> Here's my workflow for using git with the FlightGear sources in CVS. >> Note that >> there are separate repositories for Fightgear, Simgear and the >> Flightgear data. >> This is inconvenient and there may a workaround using

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Git advice

2009-01-05 Thread Thomas Förster
Am Montag 05 Januar 2009 schrieb James Turner: > - when I want to sync the main repo with the cvs-import one, your > instructions say 'git fetch', but I seem to need to 'git pull' to get > the master branch in sync with the origin. It works fine, I guess I'm > just mis-understanding what fetch a

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Git advice

2009-01-05 Thread James Turner
On 27 Dec 2008, at 15:04, Tim Moore wrote: > Here's my workflow for using git with the FlightGear sources in CVS. > Note that > there are separate repositories for Fightgear, Simgear and the > Flightgear data. > This is inconvenient and there may a workaround using git > submodules, but I >

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Git advice (was Re: Refresh of the GIT mirror on 'mapserver.flightgear.org')

2008-12-27 Thread Tim Moore
James Turner wrote: > I could benefit from some advice on using git to track (various) local > changes I'm working on. > Here's my workflow for using git with the FlightGear sources in CVS. Note that there are separate repositories for Fightgear, Simgear and the Flightgear data. This is incon

Re: [Flightgear-devel] GIT

2008-10-06 Thread AJ MacLeod
On Sunday 17 August 2008 17:28:43 James Turner wrote: > I'm using git quite happily, it's working well as a way of tracking my > different threads of development and submitting clean patches. I > hadn't realised there were so many also using it (with different > mirrors) > So, yes, definitely a vot

Re: [Flightgear-devel] GIT

2008-09-03 Thread Tim Moore
James Turner wrote: > On 3 Sep 2008, at 17:37, Tim Moore wrote: > >> For the record, it's completely impractical to maintain a bi- >> directional cvs-git >> mirror system -- where committers can check into either the cvs or >> the git >> repository -- and probably only slightly less so to maint

Re: [Flightgear-devel] GIT

2008-09-03 Thread Martin Spott
Bonsoir Frederic, Frederic Bouvier wrote: > - "Martin Spott" a ?crit : > > Hehe, my conclusion is a different one: This is the reason why some > > people, including me, are proposing to have a single 'authoritative' > > GIT mirror, last but not least to ensure that the unique identifiers > >

Re: [Flightgear-devel] GIT

2008-09-03 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Melchior FRANZ -- 9/3/2008 6:26 PM: > - There's a fake-cvs server that Curt could install alongside of > GIT. It mimics CVS and allows to access the GIT repo with a CVS > client as if it were a true CVS. I guess that sooner or later > there will be the same for SVN. Oh, and I do also not k

Re: [Flightgear-devel] GIT

2008-09-03 Thread Melchior FRANZ
Hey, looks like I'm late to the party, and others have already answered the questions, but here's my sermon: * Frederic Bouvier -- 9/3/2008 2:05 PM: > there is another thing that is unclear to me. How GIT currently > interface with CVS ( and tomorrow SVN ) ? > How do you merge content from CVS i

Re: [Flightgear-devel] GIT

2008-09-03 Thread James Turner
On 3 Sep 2008, at 17:37, Tim Moore wrote: > For the record, it's completely impractical to maintain a bi- > directional cvs-git > mirror system -- where committers can check into either the cvs or > the git > repository -- and probably only slightly less so to maintain a bi- > directional > s

Re: [Flightgear-devel] GIT

2008-09-03 Thread Tim Moore
Frederic Bouvier wrote: > - "Martin Spott" a écrit : > >> Frederic Bouvier wrote: >> >>> While working on git-svn, we realized that there are a few scripts >>> in msysGit that cannot possibly work (yet), so we excluded them from >>> the Git installer. These scripts are: archimport, cvsexportco

Re: [Flightgear-devel] GIT

2008-09-03 Thread Frederic Bouvier
- "Martin Spott" a écrit : > Frederic Bouvier wrote: > > > While working on git-svn, we realized that there are a few scripts > > in msysGit that cannot possibly work (yet), so we excluded them from > > the Git installer. These scripts are: archimport, cvsexportcommit, > > cvsimport, cvsserv

Re: [Flightgear-devel] GIT

2008-09-03 Thread Martin Spott
Frederic Bouvier wrote: > While working on git-svn, we realized that there are a few scripts in > msysGit that cannot possibly work (yet), so we excluded them from the > Git installer. These scripts are: archimport, cvsexportcommit, > cvsimport, cvsserver, filter-branch, instaweb, send-email, and

Re: [Flightgear-devel] GIT

2008-09-03 Thread Frederic Bouvier
Hi Martin, - Martin Spott a écrit : > Hi Frederic, > > Frederic Bouvier wrote: > > > You mean that it is Martin who do the 'cvs update' and we only have to do > > 'git update' ( or whatever the command is ) ? > > The GIT toolbox contains several commands which allow to 'mirror' > from a di

Re: [Flightgear-devel] GIT

2008-09-03 Thread Martin Spott
Hi Frederic, Frederic Bouvier wrote: > You mean that it is Martin who do the 'cvs update' and we only have to do > 'git update' ( or whatever the command is ) ? The GIT toolbox contains several commands which allow to 'mirror' from a different SCM system. "git cvsimport" does this for me, there

Re: [Flightgear-devel] GIT

2008-09-03 Thread Ralf Gerlich
Hi Fred! Frederic Bouvier wrote: > What if I have write access to the CVS repository ? Do I have to maintain > a seperate CVS workspace and apply my own patch in that workspace before > CVS commiting ? In that case I don't really see a great benefit ? For TaxiDraw, I have git repository and a C

Re: [Flightgear-devel] GIT

2008-09-03 Thread James Turner
On 3 Sep 2008, at 14:24, Frederic Bouvier wrote: > You mean that it is Martin who do the 'cvs update' and we only have > to do > 'git update' ( or whatever the command is ) ? Not even Martin, it's an automatic sync, currently every 4 hours (I think) for the src repository, of course this cou

Re: [Flightgear-devel] GIT

2008-09-03 Thread Frederic Bouvier
- "James Turner" a écrit : > On 3 Sep 2008, at 14:05, Frederic Bouvier wrote: > > > there is another thing that is unclear to me. How GIT currently > > interface with CVS ( and tomorrow SVN ) ? > > How do you merge content from CVS in your GIT repository ? > > How do you commit changes in

Re: [Flightgear-devel] GIT

2008-09-03 Thread James Turner
On 3 Sep 2008, at 14:05, Frederic Bouvier wrote: > there is another thing that is unclear to me. How GIT currently > interface with CVS ( and tomorrow SVN ) ? > How do you merge content from CVS in your GIT repository ? > How do you commit changes in CVS after commiting in GIT ? The merge from

Re: [Flightgear-devel] GIT

2008-09-03 Thread Frederic Bouvier
Hi Melchior, there is another thing that is unclear to me. How GIT currently interface with CVS ( and tomorrow SVN ) ? How do you merge content from CVS in your GIT repository ? How do you commit changes in CVS after commiting in GIT ? Thank, -Fred -- Frédéric Bouvier http://my.fotolia.com/frf

Re: [Flightgear-devel] GIT

2008-09-03 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Melchior FRANZ -- 9/3/2008 10:49 AM: > So you can at the moment not commit files/content with a > size >2GB after compression(!). Err, >2GB before compression, as it will use the same file routines for turning content into blobs. But the difference doesn't matter, as such big files would probabl

Re: [Flightgear-devel] GIT

2008-09-03 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Thomas -- 8/29/2008 10:46 PM: > I'm more concerned about the 2 GB repo size limit listed in the "Known > issues" in the release notes. That's only worded badly. The 2GB limit isn't for the whole repository, but for single "blobs" *in* a repository. So you can at the moment not commit files/conte

Re: [Flightgear-devel] GIT

2008-08-30 Thread Martin Spott
Christian Schmitt wrote: > Stefan C. M?ller wrote: > > That's of course the safest choise for binary files. But it would > > certainly mess up the text files. > > While most windows tools can read LF, they all write CRLF by default, > > some even to automatic conversion (like VC). We would end u

Re: [Flightgear-devel] GIT

2008-08-30 Thread Stefan C. Müller
Christian Schmitt schrieb: > Huh? From my experience it is more the other way around. I saw many > Windows tool that displayed LF fext incorrectly but I have never seen a > CRLF text in Linux being messed up. What exactly do you mean by "all the > linux tools"? > Not "all" of them of course,

Re: [Flightgear-devel] GIT

2008-08-30 Thread Frederic Bouvier
- "Frederic Bouvier" a écrit : > - "Stefan C. Müller" a écrit : > > Thomas schrieb: > > > Thanks for that review. I'm still wary of the auto line term > > > conversion and would probably favor disabling it. > > > > > That's of course the safest choise for binary files. But it would > > cert

Re: [Flightgear-devel] GIT

2008-08-30 Thread Christian Schmitt
Stefan C. Müller wrote: > That's of course the safest choise for binary files. But it would > certainly mess up the text files. > While most windows tools can read LF, they all write CRLF by default, > some even to automatic conversion (like VC). We would end up having > files of both types (an

Re: [Flightgear-devel] GIT

2008-08-30 Thread Frederic Bouvier
- "Stefan C. Müller" a écrit : > Thomas schrieb: > > Thanks for that review. I'm still wary of the auto line term > > conversion and would probably favor disabling it. > > > That's of course the safest choise for binary files. But it would > certainly mess up the text files. > While most wi

Re: [Flightgear-devel] GIT

2008-08-30 Thread Stefan C. Müller
Thomas schrieb: > Thanks for that review. I'm still wary of the auto line term > conversion and would probably favor disabling it. > That's of course the safest choise for binary files. But it would certainly mess up the text files. While most windows tools can read LF, they all write CRLF by d

Re: [Flightgear-devel] GIT

2008-08-29 Thread Martin Spott
Thomas wrote: > Thanks for that review. I'm still wary of the auto line term > conversion and would probably favor disabling it. The usual Unix tools have been _very_ reliable about telling different file types for decades and I'd assume (read: I'm not certain) that GIT on Windows would use the s

Re: [Flightgear-devel] GIT

2008-08-29 Thread Martin Spott
Christian Schmitt wrote: > As I already wrote here yesterday, the fgdata repo needs currently > approx 1GB of diskspace on my machine here. This is a bit surprising, as the repository _without_ checkout should have approximately this size: hypersphere: 15:58:01 ~> du -hs git/fgdata/ GIT/fgdata/

Re: [Flightgear-devel] GIT

2008-08-29 Thread Christian Schmitt
Thomas wrote: > > Thanks for that review. I'm still wary of the auto line term > conversion and would probably favor disabling it. > > I'm more concerned about the 2 GB repo size limit listed in the "Known > issues" in the release notes. I don't think that will work for FG. Am > I correct in as

Re: [Flightgear-devel] GIT

2008-08-29 Thread Thomas
On Fri, Aug 29, 2008 at 7:11 AM, "Stefan C. Müller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi > > I just joined this list a few days ago. And haven't contributed a single > codeline to flightgear (yet). So its not my place to say what I'd like > best. But I'm possibly kind of the avarage maybe-contributor wi

Re: [Flightgear-devel] GIT

2008-08-29 Thread Stefan C. Müller
Hi I just joined this list a few days ago. And haven't contributed a single codeline to flightgear (yet). So its not my place to say what I'd like best. But I'm possibly kind of the avarage maybe-contributor with svn and cvs experience (later I have nightmares about), who has never heard of gi

Re: [Flightgear-devel] GIT

2008-08-29 Thread Melchior FRANZ
Just for the record: KDE, one of the biggest F/OSS projects out there, switched to SVN a few years ago. Now there are plans to switch to one of the distributed SCM systems. SVN's capabilities seem to be no longer fit for the job. The project will probably switch to GIT. Here's an article about it.

Re: [Flightgear-devel] GIT

2008-08-28 Thread Christian Schmitt
Melchior FRANZ wrote: > * Melchior FRANZ -- 8/26/2008 3:03 PM: >> But it would make me a bit nervous if an aircraft developer commits >> several pointless updates of 5MB sound files. GIT can't compress that. >> We'd collect the whole pile on our disks. How much would disk space >> requirements grow

Re: [Flightgear-devel] GIT

2008-08-28 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Frederic Bouvier -- 8/27/2008 12:26 PM: > It is just that nobody explained me the benefits of using GIT over a > well known system such as CVS and SVN. I am aware of the serious lacks > of CVS, that's why I am advocating switching to SVN. Half of the fgfs developers are already using GIT for sg/

Re: [Flightgear-devel] GIT

2008-08-27 Thread Roy Vegard Ovesen
On Wednesday 27 August 2008 12:26:34 Frederic Bouvier wrote: > I am not saying it is useless. It is just that nobody explained me the > benefits of using GIT over a well known system such as CVS and SVN. I am > aware of the serious lacks of CVS, that's why I am advocating switching to > SVN. Now so

Re: [Flightgear-devel] GIT

2008-08-27 Thread Christian Schmitt
Martin Spott wrote: > I was persuaded to mention that GIT allows you to wrap single steps of > your private development into independent commits to your local > repository, even if you don't have any network access while sitting at > the beach on a remote island > Once you're back to a place

Re: [Flightgear-devel] GIT

2008-08-27 Thread Curtis Olson
I think that once GIT can demonstrate strong support for non-unix platforms, it will be a compelling option for our "OS independent" project. Best regards, Curt. On Wed, Aug 27, 2008 at 8:05 AM, Martin Spott wrote: > Frederic, > > Frederic Bouvier wrote: > > > I am not saying it is useless. It

Re: [Flightgear-devel] GIT

2008-08-27 Thread Martin Spott
Frederic, Frederic Bouvier wrote: > I am not saying it is useless. It is just that nobody explained me > the benefits of using GIT over [...] I was persuaded to mention that GIT allows you to wrap single steps of your private development into independent commits to your local repository, even if

Re: [Flightgear-devel] GIT

2008-08-27 Thread Martin Spott
James Turner wrote: > On 27 Aug 2008, at 11:08, Martin Spott wrote: > > What is your reason behind repeatedly expressing concerns wrt. storing > > the base package in GIT ? > That git seems very code-orientated, and I don't know of anyone using > it as a binary data repository. As I indicated

Re: [Flightgear-devel] GIT

2008-08-27 Thread Martin Spott
Frederic Bouvier wrote: > How do you merge binary files ? What happens when the same texture is > modified by 2 designers. If they both push their work to the same repository, the newest revision will replace the other ones and the older revisions will get archived in the history. > I am not say

Re: [Flightgear-devel] GIT

2008-08-27 Thread James Turner
On 27 Aug 2008, at 11:08, Martin Spott wrote: > What is your reason behind repeatedly expressing concerns wrt. storing > the base package in GIT ? That git seems very code-orientated, and I don't know of anyone using it as a binary data repository. It's a job CVS is dreadful at, of course, b

Re: [Flightgear-devel] GIT

2008-08-27 Thread Frederic Bouvier
- "Martin Spott" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> a écrit : > Hi James, > > James Turner wrote: > > > [...], a git primary code repo, and the git-svn proxy > > allowing people who don't wish to use git for whatever reason to > > continue using SVN. Whether that's true for the data repository is >

Re: [Flightgear-devel] GIT

2008-08-27 Thread Martin Spott
Hi James, James Turner wrote: > [...], a git primary code repo, and the git-svn proxy > allowing people who don't wish to use git for whatever reason to > continue using SVN. Whether that's true for the data repository is > another question. What is your reason behind repeatedly expressing

Re: [Flightgear-devel] GIT

2008-08-27 Thread James Turner
On 27 Aug 2008, at 10:36, Melchior FRANZ wrote: > Bah, I just saw a rather cheap 1TB disk offered in the ads of a shop > that focuses on books, music CDs and paper stuff. I guess that a > few MB more aren't really an issue nowadays. Hereby I withdraw the > above consideration. So what's left as a

Re: [Flightgear-devel] GIT

2008-08-27 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Melchior FRANZ -- 8/26/2008 3:03 PM: > But it would make me a bit nervous if an aircraft developer commits > several pointless updates of 5MB sound files. GIT can't compress that. > We'd collect the whole pile on our disks. How much would disk space > requirements grow each year? Bah, I just saw

Re: [Flightgear-devel] GIT

2008-08-26 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Curtis Olson -- 8/21/2008 5:46 PM: > I also really like how svn handles group and user authentication ... > it does it outside of the unix account system which makes the system > much easier to manage. Unix permissions are well understood and not hard to handle. They are the most straightforwar

Re: [Flightgear-devel] GIT

2008-08-22 Thread Martin Spott
James Turner wrote: > Yep, absolutely, especially since I am very unsure how git deals with > binary files, [...] Well, you easily get an answer to this question by trying it out - I've already done that, many months ago ;-) Best regards, Martin. -- Unix _IS_ user friendly - it's ju

Re: [Flightgear-devel] GIT

2008-08-21 Thread Tim Moore
Martin Spott wrote: > John Denker wrote: >> On 08/20/2008 02:32 PM, Curtis Olson wrote: > >>> Perhaps I misunderstand the scope and capabilities of git > >>> And at the end of the day, no matter what source code version control system >>> we use, and no matter what useful tools it provides f

Re: [Flightgear-devel] GIT

2008-08-21 Thread Tim Moore
Curtis Olson wrote: > Here's another "for what it's worth" ... > > I was able to find a set of options to the cvs2svn tool that worked for > our repository. The FlightGear repository takes about an hour and 45 > minutes to convert. So that part works well. I also really like how > svn handle

Re: [Flightgear-devel] GIT

2008-08-21 Thread Martin Spott
John Denker wrote: > On 08/20/2008 02:32 PM, Curtis Olson wrote: > > Perhaps I misunderstand the scope and capabilities of git > > And at the end of the day, no matter what source code version control system > > we use, and no matter what useful tools it provides for branching and > > mergin

Re: [Flightgear-devel] GIT

2008-08-21 Thread John Denker
On 08/20/2008 02:32 PM, Curtis Olson wrote: > Perhaps I misunderstand the scope and capabilities of git > And at the end of the day, no matter what source code version control system > we use, and no matter what useful tools it provides for branching and > merging, we still need a human in t

Re: [Flightgear-devel] GIT

2008-08-21 Thread James Turner
On 21 Aug 2008, at 16:46, Curtis Olson wrote: > I was able to find a set of options to the cvs2svn tool that worked > for our repository. The FlightGear repository takes about an hour > and 45 minutes to convert. So that part works well. Yep, that's really great news - I have heard some ho

Re: [Flightgear-devel] GIT

2008-08-21 Thread Curtis Olson
Here's another "for what it's worth" ... I was able to find a set of options to the cvs2svn tool that worked for our repository. The FlightGear repository takes about an hour and 45 minutes to convert. So that part works well. I also really like how svn handles group and user authentication ..

Re: [Flightgear-devel] GIT / SVN

2008-08-21 Thread Vivian Meazza
Richard Bytheway wrote > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > James Turner > > > > > > > > - git works great on the Mac, or any Unix, but I believe it's never > going to fly (if you'll pardon the expression) on Windows, due to > technical limitations there > >

Re: [Flightgear-devel] GIT / SVN

2008-08-21 Thread Richard Bytheway
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of James Turner > > > > - git works great on the Mac, or any Unix, but I believe it's never going to fly (if you'll pardon the expression) on Windows, due to technical limitations there > > FWIW, Cygwin provides git (V1.5.3.5) fo

Re: [Flightgear-devel] GIT / SVN

2008-08-20 Thread Curtis Olson
For what it's worth, I have started playing around with cvs2svn, but only very recently. I've got nothing anyone can point at yet. Also by the way, I will be out of town for a work project thursday - sunday. Also by the way, my summer soccer team made the playoffs (we had to win our last 5 games

Re: [Flightgear-devel] GIT

2008-08-20 Thread Martin Spott
"Curtis Olson" wrote: > Perhaps I misunderstand the scope and capabilities of git, but the way > things settle out in my mind is that it would make sense to support an > official GIT repository if (and only if) we decide to move the official > master code repository to GIT. I don't see what an "o

Re: [Flightgear-devel] GIT

2008-08-20 Thread Curtis Olson
On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 3:52 PM, Martin Spott wrote: > The FlightGear project has been notoriously behind about getting > people's source code contributions into CVS - for years. We all know > the story, it's been the same for years already, no need to repeat it > here. > > So, in order not to loo

Re: [Flightgear-devel] GIT / SVN

2008-08-20 Thread James Turner
On 20 Aug 2008, at 21:14, Frederic Bouvier wrote: > Migrating from CVS to SVN would already be a very good thing IMO Just to add some data to this - git works great on the Mac, or any Unix, but I believe it's never going to fly (if you'll pardon the expression) on Windows, due to technica

Re: [Flightgear-devel] GIT

2008-08-20 Thread Christian Schmitt
Martin Spott wrote: > The FlightGear project has been notoriously behind about getting > people's source code contributions into CVS - for years. We all know > the story, it's been the same for years already, no need to repeat it > here. > > So, in order not to loose the respective contributions

Re: [Flightgear-devel] GIT

2008-08-20 Thread Martin Spott
Curt, there's yet another point: "Curtis Olson" wrote: > What Martin is referring to is a read only git mirror of the official > FlightGear CVS repository so it should cause no harm as long as we are > careful not to develop official dependencies that can only be supported on a > single operating

Re: [Flightgear-devel] GIT; Was: _Sport Model_

2008-08-20 Thread Curtis Olson
On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 3:27 PM, Martin Spott wrote: > The (my) GIT mirror doesn't intend to replace Curt's CVS service, at > least not in the near future. Nevertheless I have in mind to propose a > switchover to GIT once the Windows support has proven to be reliable in > all modes of operation. >

Re: [Flightgear-devel] GIT; Was: _Sport Model_

2008-08-20 Thread Christian Schmitt
Frederic Bouvier wrote: > Migrating from CVS to SVN would already be a very good thing IMO > > -Fred > Sure enough. But if we take a migration into consideration, we sould probably go the GIT route. Although I'm not too experienced with git when it comes to committing things to it, from the gi

Re: [Flightgear-devel] GIT; Was: _Sport Model_

2008-08-20 Thread Martin Spott
Heiko, Heiko Schulz wrote: > The current SVN and CVS-clients are more comfortable. So in the > moment I would like to see, that for releases and official things we > keep on CVS( or maybe SVN?) The (my) GIT mirror doesn't intend to replace Curt's CVS service, at least not in the near future. Nev

Re: [Flightgear-devel] GIT; Was: _Sport Model_

2008-08-20 Thread Frederic Bouvier
Migrating from CVS to SVN would already be a very good thing IMO -Fred - "Heiko Schulz" a écrit : > Hi, > > Could be that this message comes twice due to an error I had from my > mailprovider... > > GIT: > I did test it some days ago, and it works, but it is not very > comfortable. Well,

Re: [Flightgear-devel] GIT; Was: _Sport Model_

2008-08-20 Thread Heiko Schulz
the moment I would like to see, that for releases and official things we keep on CVS( or maybe SVN?) Regards HHS --- Martin Spott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb am Mi, 20.8.2008: > Von: Martin Spott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Betreff: Re: [Flightgear-devel] GIT; Was: _Sport Model_ >

Re: [Flightgear-devel] GIT; Was: _Sport Model_

2008-08-20 Thread Curtis Olson
On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 2:43 PM, Frederic Bouvier wrote: > Hi Curt, Hi Martin, > > how git is supported on systems that are not Linux ? Download Virtual Box from sun (free) and run Linux in a virtual machine on your mac/windows host. That said, if anyone is looking for a fun toy ... VirtualBo

Re: [Flightgear-devel] GIT; Was: _Sport Model_

2008-08-20 Thread Martin Spott
Frederic ! Frederic Bouvier wrote: > how git is supported on systems that are not Linux ? Depends on whom you ask. I know that GIT support on Windows machines had been somewhat whacky for quite a while. Primarily GIT had been relying on some Unix filesystem features that had not been available o

Re: [Flightgear-devel] GIT; Was: _Sport Model_

2008-08-20 Thread Frederic Bouvier
Hi Curt, Hi Martin, how git is supported on systems that are not Linux ? -Fred - Curtis Olson a écrit : > Hey Martin, > > I guess I'd like to ponder this a little while longer. Should be no > problem > to use the existing mapserver name (i.e. not having git.flightgear.org > just > yet do

Re: [Flightgear-devel] GIT; Was: _Sport Model_

2008-08-20 Thread Curtis Olson
Hey Martin, I guess I'd like to ponder this a little while longer. Should be no problem to use the existing mapserver name (i.e. not having git.flightgear.org just yet doesn't impede anyone's development progress), and I guess I'd like to spend some more time thinking about how official we want t

Re: [Flightgear-devel] GIT; Was: _Sport Model_

2008-08-18 Thread Martin Spott
Pigeon wrote: > Ah, I did not notice it's only providing http access. The last time > I tried (maybe a year ago) http was much much slower than git's > protocol. I think git protocol access is definitely a ++ :) Ok, try it out - I've adjusted the instructions accordingly at: http://mapserv

Re: [Flightgear-devel] GIT; Was: _Sport Model_

2008-08-17 Thread Pigeon
> Hi Pigeon, I hope you're doing well ! I'm good! :) > Should be feasible, network bandwidth seemingly is not an issue and the > machine just got an upgrade to 32 GByte RAM. If people dislike GIT over > HTTP, then I'd check with our 'sponsor' wether I might set up an > anonymous GIT daemon. Y

Re: [Flightgear-devel] GIT; Was: _Sport Model_

2008-08-17 Thread Martin Spott
Hi Pigeon, I hope you're doing well ! Pigeon wrote: > Having a central git repo would be great. Perhaps we could use the > one at mapserver.flightgear.org Martin mentioned? Maybe have a > git.flightgear.org subdomain or something. Should be feasible, network bandwidth seemingly is not an iss

Re: [Flightgear-devel] GIT; Was: _Sport Model_

2008-08-17 Thread Pigeon
> I know some others use the GIT repo at: > > [1]http://mapserver.flightgear.org/git/gitweb.pl > > as a reference. Maybe now it's the right time to unify on one single > repository, > >I'm using git quite happily, it's working well as a way of tracking my >different

Re: [Flightgear-devel] GIT; Was: _Sport Model_

2008-08-17 Thread James Turner
On 17 Aug 2008, at 17:22, Martin Spott wrote: I know some others use the GIT repo at: http://mapserver.flightgear.org/git/gitweb.pl as a reference. Maybe now it's the right time to unify on one single repository, I'm using git quite happily, it's working well as a way of tracking my diff

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