Re: [Flightgear-devel] New timer code ported onto old

2003-11-21 Thread Russell Suter
Andy Ross wrote: Erik Hofman wrote: While compiling on IRIX I get the following error: [...] To be honnest I'm not quite sure what you're trying to do here. The hash table needs two blocks allocated: one to hold the table nodes and one to hold the top-level table of "column" pointers. F

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Playing with textures

2003-12-02 Thread Russell Suter
Russell Suter wrote: Curtis L. Olson wrote: I would recommend doing a net search for CLOD (continuous level of detail) and ROAM (I forget what that stands for.) Real-time Optimally Adapting Meshes. Sorry forgot the page: http://www.cognigraph.com/ROAM_homepage/ -- Russ Conway's Law:

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Playing with textures

2003-12-02 Thread Russell Suter
Curtis L. Olson wrote: I would recommend doing a net search for CLOD (continuous level of detail) and ROAM (I forget what that stands for.) Real-time Optimally Adapting Meshes. -- Russ Conway's Law: "The structure of a system tends to mirror the structure of the group producing it." -- Mel

[Flightgear-devel] Map Displays

2003-12-17 Thread Russell Suter
Is anybody using atlas ( http://atlas.sourceforge.net/ )? I'm interested in using something like this with the flightgear aircraft overlayed on the map. Anybody out there do anything like that before??? -- Russ Conway's Law: "The structure of a system tends to mirror the structure of the group pr

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Map Displays

2003-12-17 Thread Russell Suter
Lee Elliott wrote: On Wednesday 17 December 2003 18:16, Russell Suter wrote: Is anybody using atlas ( http://atlas.sourceforge.net/ )? I'm interested in using something like this with the flightgear aircraft overlayed on the map. Anybody out there do anything like that b

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-users] Slackware, USB, CH yoke

2003-12-17 Thread Russell Suter
Andy Ross wrote: Plonk. Does anyone with a real clue have an answer for this? Andy Daunting but I'll give it a go: For the 2.4 kernel the utility to identify the correct drivers is /sbin/hotplug. You can do a man on hotplug or check out the project web site: http://linux-hotplug.sourceforg

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Glideslope on KSFO 28R ?

2004-01-06 Thread Russell Suter
Curtis L. Olson wrote: That reminds me, I still want to try tying two cats together back to back and dropping them to see what happens. I'm sure the ASPCA will be interested is such experiments... ;) -- Russ Conway's Law: "The structure of a system tends to mirror the structure of the group produ

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear mouse pad

2004-01-11 Thread Russell Suter
That's gotta be faked. I don't think even a Onyx 3000 InfinitePerformance could provide that kind of frame rate. If so, I really gotta know... Curtis L. Olson wrote: Hof Markus wrote: nice layout... is this a faked frame rate? ;-) if not pretty good. how come? Probably because Eric runs on

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear mouse pad

2004-01-12 Thread Russell Suter
Erik Hofman wrote: Russell Suter wrote: That's gotta be faked. I don't think even a Onyx 3000 InfinitePerformance could provide that kind of frame rate. If so, I really gotta know... It's not fake ... It's just that the framerate counter doesn't stop in paus

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear mouse pad

2004-01-12 Thread Russell Suter
Erik Hofman wrote: Okay, good to know. So what kind of SGI do you run on and what kind of frame rate do you get? That's not fair! You would laugh at me :-D Nope. Never at you, but maybe with you... :-D (O2 RM5200/300Mhz at 2 ~ 10 fps but waiting to put a 900Mhz CPU in there which will

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear mouse pad

2004-01-13 Thread Russell Suter
Erik Hofman wrote: Russell Suter wrote: It's been a while since I've worked on SGI equipment. I'm familiar with the O2 but I don't know what the video capabilites are. The hardware accelerated OpenGL compares roughly to a TNT2. Performance can increase when using a fa

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear mouse pad

2004-01-13 Thread Russell Suter
True, and at the moment it's probably the worst place in FlightGear (performance wise). But it's hard to ask someone to give me the framerate for another controlled situation. Startup at KSFO is default. By the way, is this with all of the buildings, etc? -- Russ Conway's Law: "The structure

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear mouse pad

2004-01-13 Thread Russell Suter
Martin Spott wrote: Russell Suter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [...] I'm curious because I have a friend that does research on a Cessna 172 simulator that has an Onyx/IR with 3 channels. His simulator models are crap and his visual database is worse. I'm trying to talk

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear mouse pad

2004-01-13 Thread Russell Suter
Erik Hofman wrote: Russell Suter wrote: True, and at the moment it's probably the worst place in FlightGear (performance wise). But it's hard to ask someone to give me the framerate for another controlled situation. Startup at KSFO is default. By the way, is this with

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: Scenery

2004-01-29 Thread Russell Suter
mat churchill wrote: That's pretty good scenery! Is that straight from TerraGear or ripped from the MS Scenery add-ons? Some info here: http://baron.flightgear.org/pipermail/terragear-devel/2004-January/000859.html http://baron.flightgear.org/pipermail/flightgear-users/2004-January/00692

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: Scenery

2004-01-29 Thread Russell Suter
Frederic Bouvier wrote: Russell Suter wrote: mat churchill wrote: That's pretty good scenery! Is that straight from TerraGear or ripped from the MS Scenery add-ons? Some info here: http://baron.flightgear.org/pipermail/terragear-devel/2004-January/000

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: Scenery

2004-01-29 Thread Russell Suter
Mally wrote: Russ I'm not planning on redistributing the work. The work would be for a client of mine who is trying to upgrade their simulator's visual database... Are you sure that doesn't count as redistributing? Not if they buy the images and I simply provide the labor... -- Ru

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Curt's job for Feb - Mar.

2004-02-10 Thread Russell Suter
Excellent! Congratulations! Curtis L. Olson wrote: I want to share some news that I'm very excited about. For February and March I am being paid 50% time by ATC Flight Simulators (http://www.atcflightsim.com) to do some work for one of their specific projects. Looks like they use columnated

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Aerodynamic centre and 3D models

2004-02-12 Thread Russell Suter
David Megginson wrote: Andy Ross wrote: I'm not sure exactly what this is for. I can (and probably should) export the C.G. position for the view code to use appropriately. But the VRP stuff seems like a double-correction. It's basically identical to the view center offset stuff, isn't it?

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Aerodynamic centre and 3D models

2004-02-13 Thread Russell Suter
Andy Ross wrote: Russell Sutter wrote: David Megginson wrote: Andy Ross wrote: I'm not sure exactly what this is for. I can (and probably should) export the C.G. position for the view code to use appropriately. But the VRP stuff seems like a double-correction. It's basically ide

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Aerodynamic centre and 3D models

2004-02-13 Thread Russell Suter
Jon S Berndt wrote: On Fri, 13 Feb 2004 07:07:05 -0800 Andy Ross <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Adding the VRP is yet another mechanism, basically a direct analog of the view offset stuff on the FDM side. I just don't see the need. If we decide the VRP is the right way to do it, we should chuck th

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Aerodynamic centre and 3D models

2004-02-13 Thread Russell Suter
Andy Ross wrote: Jon S. Berndt wrote: Can the view offset or rendering code (whatever it is that draws the 3D aircraft models) move the origin of the set of vertices that defines the model per-frame so that the CG aligns with that reported by the FDM? Well, yes, because they're just prop

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Aerodynamic centre and 3D models

2004-02-13 Thread Russell Suter
One other point and then I'll shut the heck up. In the case of military aircraft with loadouts, you'll want to consider the visual transition between a missile on the rail and flyout as an example. When we first implemented this kind of thing, the missile looked fine on the rail but when fired

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Aerodynamic centre and 3D models

2004-02-13 Thread Russell Suter
Norman Vine wrote: Russell Suter writes: I don't think that's what he means. I took him to mean that the visual model origin is translated to the CG every frame. If that's what you mean, you really don't want to do that. That's a matrix transform for e

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Aerodynamic centre and 3D models

2004-02-13 Thread Russell Suter
Jon Berndt wrote: So, instead of defining some arbitrary frame, _we_use_an_industry_standard_, which is the structural frame that the manufacturer defines, when available. It is always (in my experience) X positive aft, Y positive right, with the origin being seemingly arbitrary. I wouldn't g

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Aerodynamic centre and 3D models

2004-02-13 Thread Russell Suter
Jon S Berndt wrote: On Fri, 13 Feb 2004 10:23:56 -0700 Russell Suter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Jon S Berndt wrote: But then, the FDM still has to report where the FDM is in a common reference frame. Exactly! At my company, we call this the control point and we have standardized

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Aerodynamic centre and 3D models

2004-02-13 Thread Russell Suter
Jon S Berndt wrote: On Fri, 13 Feb 2004 08:22:15 -0800 Andy Ross <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Jon S. Berndt wrote: Can the view offset or rendering code (whatever it is that draws the 3D aircraft models) move the origin of the set of vertices that defines the model per-frame so that the CG align

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Aerodynamic centre and 3D models

2004-02-13 Thread Russell Suter
Jon S Berndt wrote: On Fri, 13 Feb 2004 20:30:35 - "Jim Wilson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Jon, I forget, what exactly is the reason for defining a VRP in the config file? I thought that JSBSim already knew where the nose was. We normally track: - Initial empty weight CG - Dynamic CG (

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Aerodynamic centre and 3D models

2004-02-13 Thread Russell Suter
Jon S Berndt wrote: On Fri, 13 Feb 2004 14:33:43 -0700 Russell Suter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Although I strongly agree that JSBSim reporting a fixed point relative to the aircraft is good, I'm not particularly thrilled with the point you have chosen. I am more than happy

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Aerodynamic centre and 3D models

2004-02-13 Thread Russell Suter
Uncle! Jon S Berndt wrote: I don't see any advantage to your approach. By your responses, you give me no indication that you even understand what I'm saying. I seem to be alone in my dissent anyway... What you are planning will work just fine. -- Russ Conway's Law: "The structure of a system te

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Aerodynamic centre and 3D models

2004-02-13 Thread Russell Suter
Jon Berndt wrote: so I'm game to take the Nike approach and Just Do It. That's probably wise. I did _think_ I understood what you were saying, though, and still wish I understood your approach. I think it better that I scrape up some time somehow and implement the meta file approach. It's

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Aerodynamic centre and 3D models

2004-02-14 Thread Russell Suter
Jim Wilson wrote: Vivian Meazza said: I'm about halfway through generating a 3d cockpit for the Seahawk model - are you going to move the origin of the model? I'd like a heads up, it will probably affect how I go about the rest of the work. If the model is already animated (and/or cock

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Aerodynamic centre and 3D models

2004-02-14 Thread Russell Suter
Jim Wilson wrote: Russell Suter said: I suspect these properties are applied anyway -- even if they are zero. I don't know if these are applied per frame or if they are applied once to the model. In the latter case, you can ride the toll road all day and only have to pay the toll

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Aerodynamic centre and 3D models

2004-02-14 Thread Russell Suter
Jon Berndt wrote: FWIW _all_ this patch does is allow the specification of a static location for the FDM to report aircraft position at in JSBsim. Previously it was reported from the current center of gravity. That's exactly right. Furthermore, if the VRP is set to the empty weight CG for

Re: [Flightgear-devel]

2004-02-14 Thread Russell Suter
Josh Babcock wrote: Personally, I think the nose VRP makes a lot of sense. I think people are trying to make this a lot more complicated than it is. It's just a simple solution to a small problem. I vote Yea. The only thing important here is that the reported position from the FDM is fixed

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Aerodynamic centre and 3D models

2004-02-14 Thread Russell Suter
Jon Berndt wrote: No. No. No. No. There need not be a prior agreement. The 3D modeler uses whatever origin suits. It appears in many cases that's the nose. Yes, yes. There has to be an understanding of the difference between the frames of reference (FDM and 3D model). If we are provi

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Aerodynamic centre and 3D models

2004-02-15 Thread Russell Suter
Jon Berndt wrote: I mean no disrespect, nor do I question your ability. But, you don't seem to entirely understand the power of the offsets property. If the FDM reports a position, say the nose, as you intend to do. Now say that the 3D model has the origin at the tail. All is not lost. As

Re: [Flightgear-devel]

2004-02-15 Thread Russell Suter
Norman Vine wrote: Mathias Fröhlich writes: Norman Vine wrote: Also I can not find in the code the mechanism that will rotate the AirCraft about any point other then the point returned by Object.getBSphere()->getCenter() as adjusted by the translation WRT the VRP which appears to be set

Re: [Flightgear-devel]

2004-02-15 Thread Russell Suter
Norman Vine wrote: Mathias Fröhlich wwrites: On Sonntag, 15. Februar 2004 10:49, Erik Hofman wrote: Jon Berndt wrote: I give up. Sort of. I hope you don't! No need to IMHO. I think we now have an excellent solution. Could someone file a patent request for this? Ther

Re: [Flightgear-devel]

2004-02-15 Thread Russell Suter
Norman Vine wrote: Jon Berndt writes: Could this be solved if the "camera viewpoint" looked at the CG instead of the VRP? What is being done, now? The camera viewpoint need not necessarily be either or any fixed point i.e. the camera should be free to look around :-) What is required is

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Aerodynamic centre and 3D models

2004-02-15 Thread Russell Suter
Jon Berndt wrote: It didn't seem so obvious when you said this: If we are providing the position of the nose, and the 3D model has some arbitrary origin (that's *not* the nose) then it's not gonna work. Yes, that probably didn't help matters. In this lengthy and convoluted thread it's prob

Re: [Flightgear-devel]

2004-02-15 Thread Russell Suter
Mathias Fröhlich wrote: On Sonntag, 15. Februar 2004 19:26, Norman Vine wrote: And all required 'corrections' that the model does not rotate around the nose but around the dynamic center of gravity are automatically included. Please reread my earlier post on necessary steps for rotatin

Re: [Flightgear-devel]

2004-02-15 Thread Russell Suter
Norman Vine wrote: Russell Suter writes: The IG shouldn't be used to position the 3D model. If it being used, that's wrong. By IG I am assuming you mean Image Generator, and you have to understand how the things are drawn or else you are bound to get surprised at least occ

Re: [Flightgear-devel]

2004-02-15 Thread Russell Suter
Norman Vine wrote: Russell Suter writes: Norman Vine wrote: Simply stated the problem is that inorder to rotate an object about an arbritrary point you *must* do the equivalaent of the following 1) translate object so that it's 'rotation point' is at the 'point of

Re: [Flightgear-devel] flight path heading

2004-02-16 Thread Russell Suter
Jim Wilson wrote: Does anyone have a formula handy for calculating the flight path of an aircraft in true degrees (direction of travel as opposed to the airframe heading)? My guess is that it'd be a matter of doing something with the lon/lat from the previous frame. Maybe there's something sim

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Baby

2004-02-20 Thread Russell Suter
Curtis L. Olson wrote: Hi, quick announcement ... baby! Amelia Esther, 8lbs 1oz, born 6:12am this morning, Most Excellent! less than 1 hour from first contraction to delivery. 12 minutes from arrival at the hospital to delivery. Even better for Mom! All the best to you, mom, and family.

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Call it a day.

2003-03-13 Thread Russell Suter
Andy Ross wrote: Major A wrote: BTW, does anybody know at what angle planes (other than the Harrier) usually approach aircraft carriers? Pitch attitude angle or glide slope angle? Pitch depends a lot on the aircraft, somewhere between 8-12° is typical. I've read some

Re: [Flightgear-devel] No sound with fgfs on Dell Latitude with RH9.0

2003-06-26 Thread Russell Suter
I have the same problem with my Inspiron 8200. I see the following messages when I startup: WARNING: slScheduler: Needs a sound card that supports 8 bits per sample. Audio initialization failed! I traced it down to plib. In the slDSP::open method, in slDSP.cxx bps=16 and stereo=1. The slSchedul

Re: [Flightgear-devel] REference

2003-07-13 Thread Russell Suter
Jon Berndt wrote: Jim wrote: Before we get too worked up about this... It has absolutely nothing to do with modeling the aircraft. It is only a reference point for positioning the 3D model in the scene. All the nose is, sans pitot tubes and other items that are not centered,

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Some Questions about Flightgear

2003-07-13 Thread Russell Suter
David Megginson wrote: Lee Elliott writes: > Ships sounds like a great idea and shouldn't be too difficult to > implement (not that I'm volunteering). Someone mentioned carrier > landings recently didn't they? :) That's harder -- we'll have to do some work to make sure that the planes on the ca

Re: [Flightgear-devel]

2003-07-13 Thread Russell Suter
Here's a way to use the gnu compiler. It uses the SGI assembler for the backend though... http://freeware.sgi.com/ Martin Spott wrote: Melchior FRANZ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Of course not. Erik's crappy compiler doesn't seem to find it strange that a function doesn't return anything. :->

Re: [Flightgear-devel] [OT] california was Some Europeancities satelite photos

2003-08-17 Thread Russell Suter
Actually, that would be a change to our Constitution - Article II, Section I. Arnt Karlsen wrote: On Sun, 17 Aug 2003 13:04:28 -, "Jim Wilson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Lee Elliott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: "better politician

Re: [Flightgear-devel] [OT] Born in the U.S.A.

2003-08-17 Thread Russell Suter
Don't worry.  The esteemed Senator from Utah, Warren Hatch is proposing a Constitutional Amendment to change just that, along with other things, I'm sure... Tony Peden wrote: On Sun, 2003-08-17 at 15:20, David Megginson wrote: Tony Peden writes: > Is Arnold not a citizen? >

Re: [Flightgear-devel] [OT] california was SomeEuropean cities satelite photos

2003-08-17 Thread Russell Suter
Tony Peden wrote: It looks like you need to be a citizen, 35 or older, and a resident of at least 14 years. Arnold probably quailifies. On Sun, 2003-08-17 at 12:07, Russell Suter wrote: Actually, that would be a change to our Constitution - Article II, Section I. Arnt Karlsen wrote: On Sun, 1

Re: [Flightgear-devel] [OT] Born in the U.S.A.

2003-08-17 Thread Russell Suter
Did I say Warren, I meant Orrin... Don't worry.  The esteemed Senator from Utah, Warren Hatch is proposing a Constitutional Amendment to change just that, along with other things, I'm sure... Tony Peden wrote: On Sun, 2003-08-17 at 15:20, David Megginson wrote: Tony Peden write

Re: [Flightgear-devel] OT: Aircraft Carriers

2003-08-21 Thread Russell Suter
Although interesting, this is certainly not typical! If you want to know about aircraft that typically operate on a carrier: http://www.chinfo.navy.mil/navpalib/ships/carriers/powerhouse/airwing.html Jon S Berndt wrote: On Thu, 21 Aug 2003 18:32:18 +0100 (BST) Jon Stockill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: [Flightgear-devel] OT: Aircraft Carriers

2003-08-21 Thread Russell Suter
Tony Peden wrote: On Thu, 2003-08-21 at 09:54, Christopher S Horler wrote: Can anyone tell me the largest a/c that can operate from an a/c carrier? The E-2C (or the cargo version of the same plane) is probably the biggest that currently operates from U.S. carriers. I guess that depend

Re: [Flightgear-devel] OT: Aircraft Carriers

2003-08-21 Thread Russell Suter
Lee Elliott wrote: On Thursday 21 August 2003 18:41, Jon S Berndt wrote: On Thu, 21 Aug 2003 18:32:18 +0100 (BST) Jon Stockill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Thu, 21 Aug 2003, Matevz Jekovec wrote: I think S-3 Viking. C130 http://www.aerospaceweb.org/question/hist

Re: [Flightgear-devel] OT: Aircraft Carriers

2003-08-21 Thread Russell Suter
Lee Elliott wrote: I've got an idea that the (R)A-5B Vigilante was one of the largest and heaviest carrier based a/c. Heaviest, that is if you consider a full load. At almost 80,000 lbs, max takeoff weight, you could be right. -- Russ Conway's Law: "The structure of a system tends to mir

Re: [Flightgear-devel] OT: Aircraft Carriers

2003-08-21 Thread Russell Suter
Tony Peden wrote: On Thu, 2003-08-21 at 19:12, Russell Suter wrote: Tony Peden wrote: On Thu, 2003-08-21 at 09:54, Christopher S Horler wrote: Can anyone tell me the largest a/c that can operate from an a/c carrier? The E-2C (or the cargo version of the same plane

Re: [Flightgear-devel] [OT] Born in the U.S.A.

2003-08-26 Thread Russell Suter
Jim Wilson wrote: David Megginson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: Tony Peden writes: > Is Arnold not a citizen? > > "No person except a natural born citizen, He is not a natural-born citizen. > or a citizen of the United States, at the time of the adoption of > this Constitution, He was not a

Re: [Flightgear-devel] AI aircraft carrier

2003-11-15 Thread Russell Suter
David Megginson wrote: David Culp writes: > Ok, I got the Saratoga moving across San Fransisco bay at 30 knots. > > http://home.comcast.net/~davidculp2/saratoga_SFO_bay.jpg > > > It can't be landed on because the deck is not solid (however you can fly > inside and grab lunch). Is there a w

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [SPEWS] Re: submodels - config file

2004-10-27 Thread Russell Suter
Melchior FRANZ wrote: * Vivian Meazza -- Wednesday 27 October 2004 15:31: BTW, how do I resurrect the USS Saratoga? Mathias and I are beginning work on arrester wires. FWIW: we could have better than the Saratoga. We've got permission to redistribute the cvn-68(?; Truman?) with fgfs under G

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [SPEWS] Re: submodels - config file

2004-10-27 Thread Russell Suter
Melchior FRANZ wrote: * Russell Suter -- Wednesday 27 October 2004 21:06: BTW, the above picture is of the Truman (CVN-75). CVN-68 is the Nimitz. OK. (The model contains numbers for several carriers of the Nimitz class, to select via fgfs property. ;-) Very nice! So, this has been