On May 25 2005, at 19:38, Cecil Touchon wrote:
Hi Rod and All,
This is kind of funny listening to an answer to mail from two weeks
ago (12-05-05)...
I am starting to recreate drawings from 1975-77 for my upcoming 30
years of Fluxing Around Retrospective. First drawing is , take a
sheet of
On May 15 2005, at 21:34, Cecil Touchon wrote:
the fluxus vain
I say No...
rules
I say No again...
rething everything,
I say Yes!...
conduct experiments
I say Yes! again...
Rod
The toughest time...in anyone's life...is when you have to kill a
loved one just because
KeerEYEst...while I'm uploading Psychedelic Jungle and Gravest Hits
from CD to iTunes,
I'm gonna hafta be semi-serious (when I'd rather be semi-sweet) with a
response here...
The generation of Fluxus guys don't have much choice in the manner as
to whether they're associated with the term
Good one Rod!!
The Twelve Noble Moots [Meditation-0022]
Consider the 12 fluxus ideas of Ken Friedman
Is 12 the right number?
Is it really some greater or lesser number?
Is it actually some other group of criteria?
Is there actually any criteria for determinng a fluxus work's fluxicity?
Explain.
On May 12 2005, at 21:53, Cecil Touchon wrote:
How do you go about making a specificly fluxus work of visual art?
It should always (or never) have tails attached (or hanging).
Rod
The most consistent and ultimately damaging failure of political
journalism in America has its roots
the point of my name dropping was simply (and i don't think i did it very well)
to get acros the fact that in my expereience the people we know to have been
involved in fluxus, don't really believe that it exists. it is way too vague
in all of its complexity.
it is a whole bunch of other
BTW:
I also agree with Ken Friedmans definition,
which may in fact be the best of all, as it accomplishes both succinctness and
inclusiveness:
globalism,
the unity of art and life,
intermedia,
experimentalism,
chance,
playfulness,
simplicity,
implicativeness,
exemplativism,
specificity,
Hi Al(l)(e/a)n,
Yes I am impressed with Ken's clear and direct thinking in a lot of his
essays. I think he is really great. The bad part about it is, it is so
clear that one tends not to question it and I wonder about that. I mean
I wonder is it actually 12 or did he just like that number. Or
hi fluxsters
you have me thinking...that in itself can be rare.
am i a fluxus artist? no
do i like fluxus? very much indeed
does it influence my life as an artist? you bet it does
would i miss all of you if you went away? can't stand to even think of
it (resounding yes)
another thought:
Dear Alan, Those were good thoughts and good achievements you listed. Pretty
much my sentiments except don't care whether I'm considered Fluxus or not,
just DO IT. History will decide. Life is what counts! -Don
http://www.doneboyd.com
check out my website for the latest images!
I have a few more thoughts to add to this discussion, which I think is good.
George and Dick Higgins did not always agree to what Fluxus was and I do not
think we need to agree. Dick was joint with George in developing Fluxus
philosophy or aesthetics and I think Ken Friedman is the rightful
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Dear Alan, Those were good thoughts and good achievements you listed.
Pretty much my sentiments except don't care whether I'm considered
Fluxus or not, just DO IT. History will decide. Life is what counts!
-Don
http
A Collection of Ideas About
Fluxus"...it was meant to be a long-lasting idea or
tradition with continuing converts and practitioners. That is the way I look at
it and that is the way I deal with it." [Don Boyd]"I think what makes
Fluxus so dynamic and interesting to me is that there is no
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I have a few more thoughts to add to this discussion, which I think
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This was the original message Allan
I would like to start a discussion on how to identify a visual art work as a
specificly fluxus art work
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This was the original message Allan
I would like to start a discussion on how to identify a visual art work as a
specificly fluxus art work other
i read all three bits!
a lull in my ADD or something else?
i learned something
allan = 48
alan = 38
therefore l = 10
tada
perhaps..
anyway, thanks cecil for the full text and allan for your take on it. it's a
very interesting area indeed.
however, (oh
In a message dated 5/15/05 3:34:16 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
i still think we have to work on defining/redefining fluxus, at least to get a Fluxlist definition of Fluxus.
I think what makes Fluxus so dynamic and interesting to me is that there is no definition- I wish people would just
In the list of the following I have not met a single one. None of them have met me and it is highly unlikely that any of us shall ever meet each other and that has always been a perfectly OK arrangement by me.
ben vautier,
emmett williams,
ay-o,
jean dupuy,
philip corner,
yoko ono,
nam june
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ARTS
In a message dated 5/15/05 3:34:16 PM,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
i still think we have to work on defining/redefining
fluxus, at least to get a Fluxlist definition of
Fluxus.I think what makes
Title: Re: FLUXLIST: FLUXUS AND THE PLASTIC ARTS
Whats said about ducks might help out here ... If something walks and quakes like a duck it is, in all probability, a duck ... or perhaps it could be a drake ... so if SOMEthing looks, sounds smells, tastes and/or feels like fluxus, in all
I think what makes Fluxus so dynamic and
interesting to me is that there is no definition- I wish people would
just accept that. The appealing idea is that Fluxus is inclusive.
Artists spend most of their careers being rejected which is why Fluxus
is so refreshing--or should I just go be a
Cecil Touchon wrote:
"Allen Revich basicly
suggests..."
Sorry again Allan! I don't know why I keep hitting the e
In a message dated 5/12/05 7:54:11 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I would like to start a discussion on how to identify a visual art work
as a specificly fluxus art work o
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Cecil
i don't pretend to know more than a little of Fluxus in the plastic arts--but the pieces i know ofmany struck me as being ephemeral--that is, they are in keeping with this:
"the world as we see it is passing" (st paul)--
to me often the works were to be in tune with this, make the viewer
"end of discussion"
Is that a promise? It was rather long winded. I sort of got bored
working my way through it.
Cecil
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I would like to start a
discussion on how to identify a visual art
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In a message dated 5/12/05 7:54:11 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
I would like to start a discussion on how to identi
This was the original message Allan
I would like to start a discussion on how to identify a visual art work
as a specificly fluxus art work other than being called a fluxus work or
in a fluxus exhibition. Most fluxus works tend to be performance
oriented. How do you go about making a specificly
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