Re: CVS (src bin) zip'd up for nightlies?

2003-11-15 Thread Clay Leeds
On Friday, November 14, 2003, at 03:48 PM, Andreas L. Delmelle wrote: And just for the record, I should add that I _did_ succesfully build and run the 1.0Dev a little while ago on MacOS X. You *could* experience difficulty, if you don't have the latest Java 1.4 SDK already installed --a few

Re: CVS (src bin) zip'd up for nightlies?

2003-11-14 Thread Peter B. West
Glen Mazza wrote: --- Peter B. West [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Then there is no need for us to actually construct development snapshots. The build process is not onerous, and it doesn't take 12 hours to build. I agree--and am concerned that the primary motivation for these snapshots is Clay

RE: CVS (src bin) zip'd up for nightlies?

2003-11-14 Thread Andreas L. Delmelle
-Original Message- From: Peter B. West [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I think you are being unnecessarily harsh here towards Clay, and Clay has been getting a hard time from more that one source lately. Clay's Jeez, I hope you're not referring to my alluding to any laziness on his

Re: CVS (src bin) zip'd up for nightlies?

2003-11-14 Thread Clay Leeds
NOTE: some of the following may be off-topic (not to mention display my level(s) of literacy on my sleeve), but might (hopefully) prompt/continue discussion about how to improve FOP, its documentation, and overall experience (for users ** potential developers). I definitely appreciate the

RE: CVS (src bin) zip'd up for nightlies?

2003-11-14 Thread Andreas L. Delmelle
-Original Message- From: Clay Leeds [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (I wonder how many builds I'll have to download before I realize the problem really is--or isn't--my CLASSPATH)... Ahem... Maestro, I _think_ you are, at the moment, downloading none at all :s ( Snapshots only contain

RE: CVS (src bin) zip'd up for nightlies?

2003-11-14 Thread Andreas L. Delmelle
-Original Message- From: Andreas L. Delmelle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ( Snapshots only contain the sources, and compiled versions of the library jars AFAIK. It's a BIY kit. ) And just for the record, I should add that I _did_ succesfully build and run the 1.0Dev a little while ago

Re: CVS (src bin) zip'd up for nightlies?

2003-11-14 Thread Glen Mazza
*Great*--happy to hear you are getting CVS set up at work. This will help both with documentation, and later, if you desire, with coding. Now, whatever else was being discussed w.r.t. builds on the FOP site, etc., between you and the other committers contributors, please continue on with

RE: CVS (src bin) zip'd up for nightlies?

2003-11-13 Thread Andreas L. Delmelle
-Original Message- From: Clay Leeds [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] hehehe.. That's what I was looking for (I _thought_ there was a link like that!). Only problem is, I scoured the FOP Home and Development tabs and couldn't find it. If I couldn't find it after searching ( searching

Re: CVS (src bin) zip'd up for nightlies?

2003-11-13 Thread Chris Bowditch
From: Clay Leeds [EMAIL PROTECTED] snip/ BTW, IIRC it's been discussed on the list (ad nauseam) that the official tag name is HEAD, but frankly, I don't remember why so many terms appear to be synonymous. Unless I'm mistaken, the site refers to HEAD using the following other terms: Redesign

Re: CVS (src bin) zip'd up for nightlies?

2003-11-13 Thread Chris Bowditch
From: Chris Bowditch [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Clay Leeds [EMAIL PROTECTED] snip/ BTW, IIRC it's been discussed on the list (ad nauseam) that the official tag name is HEAD, but frankly, I don't remember why so many terms appear to be synonymous. Unless I'm mistaken, the site refers to HEAD using

Re: CVS (src bin) zip'd up for nightlies?

2003-11-13 Thread Clay Leeds
The vote portion relates to standardizing on a name for the Development Version. I would like this to be site-wide (and maybe I'm just the guy to do it), but for now I'm only referring to changing references on FOP/Download. (I understand it doesn't make sense to change the tag in CVS).

RE: CVS (src bin) zip'd up for nightlies?

2003-11-13 Thread Andreas L. Delmelle
-Original Message- From: Clay Leeds [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] The vote portion relates to standardizing on a name for the Development Version. I would like this to be site-wide (and maybe I'm just the guy to do it), but for now I'm only referring to changing references on

Re: CVS (src bin) zip'd up for nightlies?

2003-11-13 Thread J.Pietschmann
Clay Leeds wrote: (Personally, I like FOP-1.0DR1 Hmm. I'm not sure the first release from the trunk should be an 1.0. OTOH, TRUNK and HEAD are CVS specific terms which will probably confuse the common FOP user. Too bad, I like HEAD. J.Pietschmann

Re: CVS (src bin) zip'd up for nightlies?

2003-11-13 Thread J.Pietschmann
Victor Mote wrote: -1 on the name. There is no such thing as FOP 1.0DR1. It is a naming convention only, and IMO, not a good one. Correct. What about current development version? J.Pietschmann

Re: CVS (src bin) zip'd up for nightlies?

2003-11-13 Thread Peter B. West
Victor Mote wrote: Clay Leeds wrote: Perhaps it was laziness (ouch! ;-p), but I'd like to think not. I spent 10-15 minutes looking on the site to determine where I could download the the 1.0Dev version to test with--actually, I've gone searching a *bunch* of times, only to get frustrated and

Re: CVS (src bin) zip'd up for nightlies?

2003-11-13 Thread Glen Mazza
--- Peter B. West [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Then there is no need for us to actually construct development snapshots. The build process is not onerous, and it doesn't take 12 hours to build. I agree--and am concerned that the primary motivation for these snapshots is Clay simply not

RE: CVS (src bin) zip'd up for nightlies?

2003-11-12 Thread Andreas L. Delmelle
-Original Message- From: Clay Leeds [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Is it possible we could implement a system to get the CVS nightlies (src /or bin) for fop-1.0Dev zipped and/or tar'd for simple downloading and available from the Dev tab? Having to log in with CVS access is kind of a

Re: CVS (src bin) zip'd up for nightlies?

2003-11-12 Thread Clay Leeds
On Wednesday, November 12, 2003, at 12:51 PM, Andreas L. Delmelle wrote: -Original Message- From: Clay Leeds [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Is it possible we could implement a system to get the CVS nightlies (src /or bin) for fop-1.0Dev zipped and/or tar'd for simple downloading and available

Re: CVS (src bin) zip'd up for nightlies?

2003-11-12 Thread J.Pietschmann
Clay Leeds wrote: BTW, IIRC it's been discussed on the list (ad nauseam) that the official tag name is HEAD, but frankly, I don't remember why so many terms appear to be synonymous. Yes, standardizing language in the docs makes sense. However re-tag it in CVS? I don't think this is appropriate