Re: [fossil-users] default user setting not honored for ticket/wiki changes

2013-11-10 Thread j. van den hoff
On Sun, 10 Nov 2013 16:40:59 +0100, Andy Bradford wrote: Thus said "j. van den hoff" on Sun, 10 Nov 2013 12:32:50 +0100: the latter (`myname') is directly and consistently reported as the user doing future commits and wiki as well as ticket changes. this is perfectly ho

Re: [fossil-users] default user setting not honored for ticket/wiki changes

2013-11-10 Thread j. van den hoff
On Sun, 10 Nov 2013 16:48:42 +0100, Andy Bradford wrote: Thus said "j. van den hoff" on Sun, 10 Nov 2013 12:44:30 +0100: in my local clone of the repo, however, the _same_ checkin (from somebody (and somewhere) else) is reported as originating from me@myIP (i.e. the `s&#x

[fossil-users] fossil timeline -W num -n num

2013-11-11 Thread j. van den hoff
a bit late I'd like to thank jan nijtmans for recently improving the `timeline' command w.r.t. to `-n' behavior and introduction of `-W' (both of which fixes/changes were long overdue in my view, really...). I see only the following very minor issues: 1. the newly introduced trailing comment

Re: [fossil-users] fossil timeline -W num -n num

2013-11-11 Thread j. van den hoff
On Mon, 11 Nov 2013 16:55:31 +0100, Jan Nijtmans wrote: 2013/11/11 j. van den hoff : it has variable content (either "=== line limit (20) reached ===" (if `n 20' is specified) or "=== entry limit (20) reached ===" (if `n` is not specified at all) or missi

Re: [fossil-users] fossil timeline -W num -n num

2013-11-13 Thread j. van den hoff
On Mon, 11 Nov 2013 20:35:06 +0100, Jan Nijtmans wrote: 2013/11/11 j. van den hoff : well, if you ask me, I then would prefer the latter solution since it minimizes the number of cases where the line actually is visible. Agreed. Done in: <http://fossil-scm.org/index.html/info/8e01c22

[fossil-users] timeline formatting changes

2013-11-16 Thread j. van den hoff
coming back to the "limit reached" messages recently added to the `timeline' output: it sure is not a very big deal but I wonder whether somebody would explain the rationale for these additions. personally, right now, I don't get it: 1. the fact that `fossil timeline' by default does not (as mos

[fossil-users] timeline and/or diff across renames?

2013-11-18 Thread j. van den hoff
it seems that after `fossil mv name.old name.new' (plus `mv name.old name.new') and further `fossil ci name.new' actions. fossil correctly states in the `file history' of `name.old' and `name.new' that a rename has occurred but it seemingly cannot neither show a fused `file history' nor a diff

Re: [fossil-users] timeline and/or diff across renames?

2013-11-18 Thread j. van den hoff
On Mon, 18 Nov 2013 15:18:37 +0100, Richard Hipp wrote: On Mon, Nov 18, 2013 at 8:21 AM, j. van den hoff wrote: it seems that after `fossil mv name.old name.new' (plus `mv name.old name.new') and further `fossil ci name.new' actions. fossil correctly states in the `file histor

[fossil-users] feature request: tracking/diffing files across renames

2013-11-30 Thread j. van den hoff
regarding this thread http://www.mail-archive.com/fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org/msg12774.html and this more recent one http://www.mail-archive.com/fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org/msg13917.html I would like to learn whether this issue is still considered low priority by the developers (

[fossil-users] timeline rss feed: authentification question

2013-12-17 Thread j. van den hoff
is there a canonical way to subscribe to the `timeline.rss' feed in case the (https/cgi-served) repository (including timeline (partly or completely)) is password protected? I have tried to use the URL syntax https://user:password@server/repo/timeline.rss but to no avail. currently I only can g

Re: [fossil-users] Parent of the very first checkin?

2013-12-21 Thread j. van den hoff
On Sat, 21 Dec 2013 05:54:24 +0100, Andy Bradford wrote: Thus said Richard Hipp on Fri, 20 Dec 2013 19:05:07 -0500: http://www.fossil-scm.org/fossil/info/a28c83647d Is there a command line option that will find this artifact? I thought perhaps the root:trunk symbolic name would fin

Re: [fossil-users] New Tree-View feature requires newer sqlite.

2014-01-03 Thread j. van den hoff
On Fri, 03 Jan 2014 19:28:10 +0100, Richard Hipp wrote: On Fri, Jan 3, 2014 at 1:22 PM, Ron Wilson wrote: BTW, the singular of "data" is "datum". It is in Latin. In English "data" is a mass noun or an "uncountable noun". Like "sand" or "information" or "water", it has no plural form

Re: [fossil-users] Version 1.28 release?

2014-01-09 Thread j. van den hoff
On Thu, 09 Jan 2014 16:26:35 +0100, Ramey, Christopher wrote: On Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at 6:14 AM, Richard Hipp wrote: On Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at 10:12 AM, Remigiusz Modrzejewski < l...@maxnet.org.pl> wrote: On Jan 9, 2014, at 16:00 , Martin S. Weber wrote: >> But I want Fossil to follow the l

Re: [fossil-users] Version 1.28 release?

2014-01-09 Thread j. van den hoff
On Thu, 09 Jan 2014 16:55:17 +0100, Richard Hipp wrote: A consensus seems to be emerging that perception is more important that truth and hence the latest "release" of SQLite should be in the Fossil more important than truth? I think nobody said so and I would not agree to that "consensus".

[fossil-users] 1.28 [6f1b5d6047] memory faults at `fossil search'

2014-01-09 Thread j. van den hoff
version 1.28 [6f1b5d6047] gives me memory faults when doing something like `fossil search whatever' #search pattern does not matter ... when executing it on fossil's own timeline (i.e. in a checkout of the `fossil' source code). observed under MacOS 10.8.5. it seems to be related to the len

Re: [fossil-users] 1.28 [6f1b5d6047] memory faults at `fossil search'

2014-01-09 Thread j. van den hoff
On Thu, 09 Jan 2014 22:01:07 +0100, Richard Hipp wrote: On Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at 3:54 PM, j. van den hoff wrote: version 1.28 [6f1b5d6047] gives me memory faults when doing something like `fossil search whatever' #search pattern does not matter ... when executing it on fossil&

Re: [fossil-users] 1.28 [6f1b5d6047] memory faults at `fossil search'

2014-01-09 Thread j. van den hoff
On Thu, 09 Jan 2014 23:24:33 +0100, Richard Hipp wrote: On Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at 5:19 PM, j. van den hoff wrote: thanks for this. question: the output of `fossil search' is not chronologically sorted. it should be in my view (top down, that is, from new to old just as the timeline). is

[fossil-users] how to turn off prompting for gpg passphrase

2014-01-16 Thread j. van den hoff
I have `gpg' installed on my system. when doing `fsl branch new branchname basis' (and only then) I'm prompted by `gpg' for my phassphrase. why is this happening and how can I turn this off? am I missing something? I'm quite sure that this passphrase query was not issued until some months o

Re: [fossil-users] how to turn off prompting for gpg passphrase

2014-01-16 Thread j. van den hoff
On Thu, 16 Jan 2014 11:03:34 +0100, Gour wrote: On Thu, 16 Jan 2014 10:46:30 +0100 "j. van den hoff" wrote: I have `gpg' installed on my system. when doing `fsl branch new branchname basis' (and only then) I'm prompted by `gpg' for my phassphrase. why is thi

Re: [fossil-users] how to turn off prompting for gpg passphrase

2014-01-16 Thread j. van den hoff
On Thu, 16 Jan 2014 11:21:20 +0100, Gour wrote: On Thu, 16 Jan 2014 11:10:28 +0100 "j. van den hoff" wrote: I never have changed the default for this ("off") and that's what `fossil settings' tells me right now: `clearsign' is not explicitly set one way

[fossil-users] gpg clearsign problem

2014-01-24 Thread j. van den hoff
I have a stupid persisting problem (happening with fossil version 1.28 [3b10682a8c] under mac osx): despite the fact that `clearsign' is off globally (never changed the default, never set it locally) and `fossil set' does not report a value for it locally (since not set) each time I do fos

Re: [fossil-users] gpg clearsign problem

2014-01-24 Thread j. van den hoff
On Fri, 24 Jan 2014 12:59:34 +0100, Stephan Beal wrote: On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 12:47 PM, j. van den hoff wrote: I'm asked for my gpg passphrase. I even tried an explicit `fossil set clearsign off' in the repo but to no avail. the problem is not specific to a single repo

Re: [fossil-users] gpg clearsign problem

2014-01-24 Thread j. van den hoff
On Fri, 24 Jan 2014 13:35:30 +0100, Jan Nijtmans wrote: 2014/1/24 j. van den hoff : any ideas? <http://fossil-scm.org/index.html/info/d8a588ba76> Looks like this has been missing always. yes, it seems like this (if that code was not been touched sometime in the last 1-2

Re: [fossil-users] gpg clearsign problem

2014-01-24 Thread j. van den hoff
On Fri, 24 Jan 2014 14:23:57 +0100, Jan Nijtmans wrote: 2014/1/24 j. van den hoff : this is strange, right? was it a regression after all or are/were there other code paths creating a branch? This code appears to be the same as after it's first check-in in 2009: The check fo

[fossil-users] automated email notification of changes to the repo (notably ticket creation/changes)

2014-02-21 Thread j. van den hoff
I've noted there were some related threads recently, but I've not got a really clear picture what the best approach would be. we also are hit by this problem: a central repo used by some 10 people max. for creating tickets and following changes to those through the web gui w/o using fossil

Re: [fossil-users] automated email notification of changes to the repo (notably ticket creation/changes)

2014-02-27 Thread j. van den hoff
e sendmail/msmtp or the like and hand the message off to to that program for delivery? You could have an option under the admin menu to select which program to use, and the smtp user auth specific to the server. Stephen C. On 21/02/14 10:40 AM, j. van den hoff wrote: > I've noted there were so

Re: [fossil-users] minor fossil-website documentation issue

2014-03-14 Thread j. van den hoff
On Fri, 14 Mar 2014 10:40:38 +0100, Arseniy Terekhin wrote: On the surface that change sounds easy to make, but after staring at it for 5 minutes i cannot seem to find a better/clearer alternative. "WWW pages" is just as ambiguous. Any suggestions? "fossil-serv

Re: [fossil-users] minor fossil-website documentation issue

2014-03-14 Thread j. van den hoff
On Fri, 14 Mar 2014 10:44:14 +0100, Stephan Beal wrote: On Fri, Mar 14, 2014 at 10:43 AM, j. van den hoff wrote: "fossil-served html pages" 30 seconds too late ;). i like UI pages a bit better. i'm still opened to suggestions, though. sure, whatever, but I belie

[fossil-users] ticket editing

2014-03-14 Thread j. van den hoff
stupid question maybe: it seems that ticket editing is restricted to "append only" or am I mistaken? this prevents elimination of errors (factual or typographical) in previous edits to the ticket content. e.g. some of my colleagues copy+paste-attached some comment to a previously issued ticket

Re: [fossil-users] ticket editing

2014-03-15 Thread j. van den hoff
On Sat, 15 Mar 2014 16:40:49 +0100, Goyo wrote: 2014-03-15 9:53 GMT+01:00 Marc Simpson : Do you want to grant them permission to edit all tickets, or just those submitted? If the former, take a look at the 'w' privilege on /setup_ulist. Does not work for me. Clicking "Edit" in the ticket sh

Re: [fossil-users] ticket editing

2014-03-17 Thread j. van den hoff
On Mon, 17 Mar 2014 09:32:49 +0100, Martijn Coppoolse wrote: On 15-3-2014 17:08, j. van den hoff wrote: Does not work for me. Clicking "Edit" in the ticket shows the "Edit Ticket" page where edit every ticket field (title, status, etc.) and also append a new comment/rem

Re: [fossil-users] ticket editing

2014-03-17 Thread j. van den hoff
On Mon, 17 Mar 2014 14:14:49 +0100, Doug Franklin wrote: On 2014-03-17 5:53, j. van den hoff wrote: it is really a nuisance to look at a seriously misleading/erroneous/misplaced ticket comment (the more so, if it happens not to be the very last one) and not being able to correct it. I

Re: [fossil-users] ticket editing

2014-03-17 Thread j. van den hoff
On Mon, 17 Mar 2014 14:50:56 +0100, Stephan Beal wrote: On Mon, Mar 17, 2014 at 2:40 PM, j. van den hoff wrote: personally, I think it is great, that checkin comments _can_ be edited after the fact (contrary to some other DVCSes) -- Just to avoid any confusion from those who don't

Re: [fossil-users] fossil humor: poor man's bug tracking...

2014-03-17 Thread j. van den hoff
On Mon, 17 Mar 2014 17:21:04 +0100, Stephan Beal wrote: For those who don't need the full features of the ticketing system, i think i've discovered a new way to keep track of bugs: use a "fixme" tag. [stephan@host:~/cvs/fossil/libfossil]$ f-tag -a 4b05c2c59fa6 -t fixme -v "This artifact ca

[fossil-users] seemingly buggy report by `fossil changes/extras'

2014-04-09 Thread j. van den hoff
this behaviour seems buggy (or I miss some crucial point): under certain circumstances `fossil extras' and `fossil changes' don't report the file name of the affected files correctly. specifically from within a subdir, if the behaviour is triggered, fossil reports only the dirname, i.e. `

Re: [fossil-users] seemingly buggy report by `fossil changes/extras'

2014-04-10 Thread j. van den hoff
On Wed, 09 Apr 2014 22:36:34 +0200, Jan Nijtmans wrote: 2014-04-09 18:07 GMT+02:00 j. van den hoff : this behaviour seems buggy (or I miss some crucial point): under certain circumstances `fossil extras' and `fossil changes' don't report the file name of the affected

[fossil-users] "default user" confusion

2014-04-11 Thread j. van den hoff
maybe someone can help me understand the problem detailed below. I presume the question boils down to: 'can I "unset" the default user?' but I am not sure. so: the setup is as follows: a single checkout dir (containing also the fossil repository itself) on a network disk that is assessed by s

Re: [fossil-users] "default user" confusion

2014-04-11 Thread j. van den hoff
On Fri, 11 Apr 2014 22:18:27 +0200, Stephan Beal wrote: On Fri, Apr 11, 2014 at 10:12 PM, Stephan Beal wrote: A single, shared checkout is your problem. The default-user setting is set locally, in the checkout, and does not propagate (it even ignores the --global option, in my tests).

Re: [fossil-users] "default user" confusion

2014-04-11 Thread j. van den hoff
On Fri, 11 Apr 2014 22:18:27 +0200, Stephan Beal wrote: On Fri, Apr 11, 2014 at 10:12 PM, Stephan Beal wrote: A single, shared checkout is your problem. The default-user setting is set locally, in the checkout, and does not propagate (it even ignores the --global option, in my tests).

Re: [fossil-users] "default user" confusion

2014-04-13 Thread j. van den hoff
On Sat, 12 Apr 2014 00:08:49 +0200, Stephan Beal wrote: On Sat, Apr 12, 2014 at 12:05 AM, j. van den hoff wrote: A single, shared checkout is your problem. The default-user setting is set locally, in the checkout, and does not propagate (it even ignores the --global option, in my

Re: [fossil-users] "default user" confusion

2014-04-13 Thread j. van den hoff
On Sun, 13 Apr 2014 18:12:05 +0200, Andy Bradford wrote: Thus said Stephan Beal on Sun, 13 Apr 2014 17:54:49 +0200: question: would this need fixing? I think at the very least it should be possible to unset a user that was configured as a default via ``fossil user default user''; per

Re: [fossil-users] "default user" confusion

2014-04-14 Thread j. van den hoff
On Mon, 14 Apr 2014 02:38:14 +0200, Andy Bradford wrote: Thus said "j. van den hoff" on Sun, 13 Apr 2014 18:37:56 +0200: only after your and stephan's responses I realize that `default-user' is _not_ initialized at the time of repo creation/opening but indeed o

Re: [fossil-users] Fossil update goes not get lastest checkin

2014-04-24 Thread j. van den hoff
just for the record, I believe I encountered something similar: I have a very simple setup: a remote (cgi-served) repo (acting essentially only as a backup but publicly accessible) and _one_ local clone where only _one_ user (me) does checkins (the owner of the remote server _could_ clone/d

Re: [fossil-users] Problem: Can't get diff against renamed file

2014-04-29 Thread j. van den hoff
On Tue, 29 Apr 2014 17:48:10 +0200, Stephan Beal wrote: On Tue, Apr 29, 2014 at 5:41 PM, Tony Papadimitriou wrote: If I rename a file (both on disk and with FOSSIL REN command), and then try to do a [G]DIFF command –FROM a date where the file had the old name, I get the message tha

Re: [fossil-users] Problem: Can't get diff against renamed file

2014-04-29 Thread j. van den hoff
On Tue, 29 Apr 2014 18:28:06 +0200, Stephan Beal wrote: On Tue, Apr 29, 2014 at 6:18 PM, j. van den hoff wrote: I understand that that's the current state of affairs. I don't understand whether this could/should not be changed. Patches welcomed :) sure but it seems qui

Re: [fossil-users] Problem: Can't get diff against renamed file

2014-04-29 Thread j. van den hoff
On Tue, 29 Apr 2014 18:36:17 +0200, Richard Hipp wrote: The infrastructure exists for Fossil to recognize name changes: http://www.fossil-scm.org/fossil/artifact/59e624a3955?ln=353-376 That infrastructure is currently used for the "update" and "merge" commands. But it has not yet been in

Re: [fossil-users] Problem: Can't get diff against renamed file

2014-04-29 Thread j. van den hoff
ssil timeline -showfiles tells me only DELETED A for the renaming checkin. would it not be more helpful/correct to issue the `RENAMED A B' message at this place, too? On Tue, 29 Apr 2014 18:42:05 +0200, j. van den hoff wrote: On Tue, 29 Apr 2014 18:36:17 +0200, Richard Hipp wrote:

Re: [fossil-users] Problem: Can't get diff against renamed file

2014-04-29 Thread j. van den hoff
On Tue, 29 Apr 2014 19:50:39 +0200, Richard Hipp wrote: File renames are uncommon in Fossil itself. See http://www.fossil-scm.org/fossil/test-rename-list for a complete list of all file renames that have occurred over the entire 6.78-year history of Fossil. Renames in SQLite are similarly sca

Re: [fossil-users] Problem: Can't get diff against renamed file

2014-04-30 Thread j. van den hoff
On Tue, 29 Apr 2014 19:50:39 +0200, Richard Hipp wrote: File renames are uncommon in Fossil itself. See http://www.fossil-scm.org/fossil/test-rename-list for a complete list of all file renames that have occurred over the entire 6.78-year history of Fossil. Renames in SQLite are similarly sca

Re: [fossil-users] Problem: Can't get diff against renamed file

2014-04-30 Thread j. van den hoff
On Wed, 30 Apr 2014 23:09:45 +0200, Stephan Beal wrote: On Wed, Apr 30, 2014 at 11:02 PM, j. van den hoff wrote: just a short feedback: I think keeping the `test-rename-list' would be a welcome additional feature (even if rename-aware diff would become a reality). at least it hel

Re: [fossil-users] Problem: Can't get diff against renamed file

2014-04-30 Thread j. van den hoff
On Wed, 30 Apr 2014 23:12:45 +0200, Stephan Beal wrote: On Wed, Apr 30, 2014 at 11:09 PM, Stephan Beal wrote: For those who haven't seen this (i think the command itself was renamed?): Sorry for the confusion: Richard referred to a WWW page for doing this, not a CLI command (which

Re: [fossil-users] Tracking System Configuration Files - Best Practices

2014-05-09 Thread j. van den hoff
On Fri, 09 May 2014 17:30:02 +0200, Joseph Mingrone wrote: I was asked off the list to share what I ended up using. It was really quite simple in the end. I somehow missed the setting "allow-symlinks". With this turned on, I just create symbolic links in the local tree and now, on the rare oc

Re: [fossil-users] Tracking System Configuration Files - Best Practices

2014-05-09 Thread j. van den hoff
ed with absolute pathnames in the first place, the links in the clone usually will point to outer space (i.e. the links are invalid) which is totally useless I'd say. j. On Fri, May 9, 2014 at 10:00 AM, Stephan Beal wrote: On Fri, May 9, 2014 at 6:30 PM, j. van den hoff > w

Re: [fossil-users] Tracking System Configuration Files - Best Practices

2014-05-09 Thread j. van den hoff
On Fri, 09 May 2014 20:42:06 +0200, Stephan Beal wrote: On Fri, May 9, 2014 at 8:33 PM, j. van den hoff wrote: b) if this repo is cloned and opened, indeed the original files materialize in the checkout, i.e. the symlink information is lost (probably never was there in the repo?). I

Re: [fossil-users] Tracking System Configuration Files - Best Practices

2014-05-09 Thread j. van den hoff
On Fri, 09 May 2014 21:07:59 +0200, Stephan Beal wrote: On Fri, May 9, 2014 at 9:02 PM, j. van den hoff wrote: On Fri, 09 May 2014 20:42:06 +0200, Stephan Beal wrote: IMO. (That said, i never was a big fan of having symlink support in fossil!) well, the possibility to do that

Re: [fossil-users] Location of ".fossil" Database

2014-05-21 Thread j. van den hoff
just to throw in my 2c regarding this (in my view: non-)problem: -- as a mac and linux/unix user I could not care less about dot-files materializing in my (mac-)home dir. it could be done differently but not "better" in any meaningful sense. -- while it is true that true "mac" applications ar

Re: [fossil-users] script-friendlier progress-indicator when cloning

2014-06-04 Thread j. van den hoff
On Wed, 04 Jun 2014 10:36:41 +0200, Michai Ramakers wrote: Hello, is there a way to make 'fossil clone' a bit less verbose for use in scripts? I am using clone to make a consistent temporary copy of a repo. Ideas are welcome, what about something like fossil clone url filename | awk '/^R

Re: [fossil-users] Outside contribution feature

2014-06-05 Thread j. van den hoff
On Thu, 05 Jun 2014 03:24:10 +0200, Warren Young wrote: As far as I can tell, Fossil offers two ways to allow outsiders to submit changes to an open source software project: 1. Give them Develop privs 2. Ask them to "fossil diff" and mail you a patch file In my open source projec

Re: [fossil-users] Automating a clone - any other way than the URL to pass in password?

2014-07-06 Thread j. van den hoff
On Sat, 05 Jul 2014 19:19:54 +0200, Matt Welland wrote: I'd like to automate a clone but I think I'd prefer the password not be in the URL. The concern is that the password in the URL might be visible in the webserver logs. First, is this a legit concern? Second, how best to do this? AFAIC

Re: [fossil-users] Asciidoc(tor) & Fossil

2014-08-14 Thread j. van den hoff
On Thu, 14 Aug 2014 12:24:24 +0200, Gour wrote: On Thu, 14 Aug 2014 10:32:20 +0200 Stephan Beal wrote: Correct, but it also means that if you try to view those pages in the fossil wiki, they will be mangled. That's clear, but originally I was thinking about https://github.com/srackham/asci

Re: [fossil-users] Fossil not updating to the true latest commit in branch

2014-09-04 Thread j. van den hoff
On Thu, 04 Sep 2014 07:28:30 +0200, Ron W wrote: On Wed, Sep 3, 2014 at 7:56 PM, Will Parsons wrote: Ha! Thou speakest well! (And get the grammar right!) I do have to admit that "verily" is more characteristic of the KJV Bible than Shakespeare,though... I recently read "Shakespeare's

[fossil-users] what determines the string length of sha1 display in the timeline?

2015-02-09 Thread j. van den hoff
maybe a stupid question, but I've just seen this for the first time. in my timeline there is an entry with a sha1 hash display of [52060472835f] which clearly stands out from the other entries since the string length is 12 instead of the usual 10. I understand of course that the full hash is long

Re: [fossil-users] what determines the string length of sha1 display in the timeline?

2015-02-09 Thread j. van den hoff
On Mon, 09 Feb 2015 18:47:17 +0100, Richard Hipp wrote: On 2/9/15, j. van den hoff wrote: maybe a stupid question, but I've just seen this for the first time. in my timeline there is an entry with a sha1 hash display of [52060472835f] which clearly stands out from the other entries

Re: [fossil-users] what determines the string length of sha1 display in the timeline?

2015-02-09 Thread j. van den hoff
On Mon, 09 Feb 2015 18:47:17 +0100, Richard Hipp wrote: On 2/9/15, j. van den hoff wrote: maybe a stupid question, but I've just seen this for the first time. in my timeline there is an entry with a sha1 hash display of [52060472835f] which clearly stands out from the other entries

Re: [fossil-users] what determines the string length of sha1 display in the timeline?

2015-02-09 Thread j. van den hoff
On Mon, 09 Feb 2015 22:35:52 +0100, Richard Hipp wrote: Probably we would be well-served to clean this all up. But first all the committers have to agree on a particular style to use. Then we have to hunt down and change every place that prints out a SHA1 hash. And, so far, everybody has felt

Re: [fossil-users] what determines the string length of sha1 display in the timeline?

2015-02-09 Thread j. van den hoff
same as last mail (sorry), but with one important typo corrected On Mon, 09 Feb 2015 22:35:52 +0100, Richard Hipp wrote: Probably we would be well-served to clean this all up. But first all the committers have to agree on a particular style to use. Then we have to hunt down and change e

Re: [fossil-users] what determines the string length of sha1 display in the timeline?

2015-02-09 Thread j. van den hoff
On Tue, 10 Feb 2015 00:23:00 +0100, Stephan Beal wrote: On Mon, Feb 9, 2015 at 7:57 PM, j. van den hoff wrote: (1) Minimum of 10 characters (2) Longer as needed to include at least one character in [a-f] why this constraint (requiring occurence of one out of [a-f])? at which point

Re: [fossil-users] what determines the string length of sha1 display in the timeline?

2015-02-10 Thread j. van den hoff
On Tue, 10 Feb 2015 10:06:57 +0100, Stephan Beal wrote: On Tue, Feb 10, 2015 at 7:17 AM, j. van den hoff wrote: this seems a rather special/remote problem, no? I don't know javascript/jason but would presume, that it would be easy to enforce correct interpretation in this

Re: [fossil-users] what determines the string length of sha1 display in the timeline?

2015-02-10 Thread j. van den hoff
e not. worth to fix (the inconsistency of the sha1 substrings across commands) "upstream", i.e in fossil? I would think so. This way, parsing the timeline will be fairly robust and the changes in fossil that can break your code are less likely to happen. "j. van den hoff&

Re: [fossil-users] what determines the string length of sha1 display in the timeline?

2015-02-10 Thread j. van den hoff
On Tue, 10 Feb 2015 20:32:09 +0100, John Found wrote: I was talking about the CLI of fossil, not the web interface. It doesn't matter. It is even more simple, just detect the first hex number, enclosed in square brackets and you will be fine, notice, without assuming any length at all.

Re: [fossil-users] directory structure

2015-02-10 Thread j. van den hoff
On Tue, 10 Feb 2015 18:24:21 +0100, Jeff Rogers wrote: Hi all, There aren't a lot of restrictions on where to name and locate repository files, but I was wondering what the common practices are. On the repository naming, I used to call my repositories "projectname.fsl", but the auto-inde

Re: [fossil-users] what determines the string length of sha1 display in the timeline?

2015-02-10 Thread j. van den hoff
On Tue, 10 Feb 2015 21:23:09 +0100, Andy Bradford wrote: Thus said John Found on Tue, 10 Feb 2015 21:32:09 +0200: It doesn't matter. It is even more simple, just detect the first hex number, enclosed in square brackets and you will be fine, notice, without assuming any length at all

Re: [fossil-users] what determines the string length of sha1 display in the timeline?

2015-02-10 Thread j. van den hoff
On Tue, 10 Feb 2015 21:49:06 +0100, Richard Hipp wrote: There are two cases: (1) SHA1 prefixes for human-consumption (2) SHA1 prefixes as part of URLs What do people think would be a good default length for each case? Jan prefers the full 40-characters for (2) and went to a lot of trouble to

Re: [fossil-users] what determines the string length of sha1 display in the timeline?

2015-02-11 Thread j. van den hoff
On Wed, 11 Feb 2015 01:21:22 +0100, Warren Young wrote: On Feb 10, 2015, at 4:34 PM, Richard Hipp wrote: On 2/10/15, Warren Young wrote: Seems like a risky gamble to me. Risk? It's a low-probability of a minor ambiguity in the display Further up the thread people were talking about pa

Re: [fossil-users] what determines the string length of sha1 display in the timeline?

2015-02-11 Thread j. van den hoff
On Wed, 11 Feb 2015 12:56:58 +0100, Richard Hipp wrote: On 2/11/15, j. van den hoff wrote: I'd say one can live with this potential annoyance (not danger) of getting a collision of the sub-hashes even with 10 digits (although 12 would mean that for the foreseeable future number of a

Re: [fossil-users] what determines the string length of sha1 display in the timeline?

2015-02-11 Thread j. van den hoff
On Wed, 11 Feb 2015 15:23:55 +0100, Richard Hipp wrote: On 2/11/15, j. van den hoff wrote: whatever the reason, the netbsd example (a worst case scenario, really) would suggest to chose 12 instead of 10 as the future default length to avoid collisions these next some hundred years. Maybe

Re: [fossil-users] what determines the string length of sha1 display in the timeline?

2015-02-11 Thread j. van den hoff
On Wed, 11 Feb 2015 15:24:04 +0100, Joerg Sonnenberger wrote: On Wed, Feb 11, 2015 at 02:13:10PM +0100, j. van den hoff wrote: for the netbsd repo (presuming there are half a million checkins in it) Hash conflicts likely count all artifacts, so it would be more like 2.1 do they

Re: [fossil-users] Alternative "skin" for the main Fossil website

2015-02-11 Thread j. van den hoff
On Wed, 11 Feb 2015 16:21:32 +0100, Richard Hipp wrote: You can now access the Fossil self-hosting repository using the "San Francisco Modern" skin at: https://www.fossil-scm.org/skin2 Please let me know if you see any problems with the look of this alternative skin. the box for specify

Re: [fossil-users] Alternative "skin" for the main Fossil website

2015-02-11 Thread j. van den hoff
On Wed, 11 Feb 2015 16:21:32 +0100, Richard Hipp wrote: You can now access the Fossil self-hosting repository using the "San Francisco Modern" skin at: https://www.fossil-scm.org/skin2 Please let me know if you see any problems with the look of this alternative skin. selecting 'with fi

Re: [fossil-users] Alternative "skin" for the main Fossil website

2015-02-11 Thread j. van den hoff
On Wed, 11 Feb 2015 18:06:24 +0100, jungle Boogie wrote: Hi J., On 11 February 2015 at 08:23, j. van den hoff wrote: On Wed, 11 Feb 2015 16:21:32 +0100, Richard Hipp wrote: You can now access the Fossil self-hosting repository using the "San Francisco Modern" skin at:

Re: [fossil-users] what determines the string length of sha1 display in the timeline?

2015-02-11 Thread j. van den hoff
On Wed, 11 Feb 2015 20:51:39 +0100, Ross Berteig wrote: On 2/11/2015 6:23 AM, Richard Hipp wrote: On 2/11/15, j. van den hoff wrote: whatever the reason, the netbsd example (a worst case scenario, really) would suggest to chose 12 instead of 10 as the future default length to avoid

Re: [fossil-users] what determines the string length of sha1 display in the timeline?

2015-02-12 Thread j. van den hoff
On Thu, 12 Feb 2015 17:21:50 +0100, Warren Young wrote: On Feb 11, 2015, at 7:23 AM, Richard Hipp wrote: On 2/11/15, j. van den hoff wrote: whatever the reason, the netbsd example (a worst case scenario, really) would suggest to chose 12 instead of 10 as the future default length to avoid

Re: [fossil-users] what determines the string length of sha1 display in the timeline?

2015-02-12 Thread j. van den hoff
On Thu, 12 Feb 2015 17:59:33 +0100, Warren Young wrote: On Feb 12, 2015, at 9:55 AM, j. van den hoff wrote: making the probability threshold user settable instead seems less convenient since it is just a statistical measure and it is counterintuitive in the sense that it tells you

Re: [fossil-users] what determines the string length of sha1 display in the timeline?

2015-02-12 Thread j. van den hoff
On Thu, 12 Feb 2015 21:17:41 +0100, Ron W wrote: On Thu, Feb 12, 2015 at 2:55 PM, Warren Young wrote: I would still prefer that Fossil self-tune, however. While it is true that my formula doesn’t give intuitive p values, it is also true that you cannot pick sensible d values for a reposi

[fossil-users] incorrect repository schema version:

2015-02-17 Thread j. van den hoff
hi list, I just now have got a strange error never seen so far. after cloning a repo via ssh from a remote server (which I otherwise am using now in this way for years w/o problems) and trying to open the repo I see: `incorrect repository schema version: current repository schema version is

Re: [fossil-users] Improving Fossil's "Look"

2015-02-18 Thread j. van den hoff
On Wed, 18 Feb 2015 09:12:37 +0100, Roy Marples wrote: On 2015-02-17 23:43, Richard Hipp wrote: I have switched the default Fossil repo over to using the San Francisco Modern skin. Everybody seems to think it looks a lot better, and I agree. I like the look, but why the fixed width? I like

Re: [fossil-users] Improving Fossil's "Look"

2015-02-18 Thread j. van den hoff
On Wed, 18 Feb 2015 00:43:15 +0100, Richard Hipp wrote: I have switched the default Fossil repo over to using the San Francisco Modern skin. Everybody seems to think it looks a lot better, and I agree. execpt, maybe the fixed-width layout ... I think the next step of the ongoing Fossil ma

[fossil-users] handling of pdf files in fossil gui

2015-02-25 Thread j. van den hoff
one thing which in my experience confuses casual users quite heavily is, how to "have a look" at pdf-files (which many browsers can display just fine via some plugin). but to make that happen quite a few clicks are required and not the least hurdle is to find the 'download' button (which in

[fossil-users] SQLITE_ERROR: no such function: score

2015-03-02 Thread j. van den hoff
something seems broken, currently (or what am I missing?): issuing `fossil search something' yields SQLITE_ERROR: no such function: score fossil: no such function: score: {INSERT INTO srch(rid,uuid,date,comment,x) SELECT blob.rid, uuid, datetime(event.mtime), coalesce(ecomment,com

Re: [fossil-users] SQLITE_ERROR: no such function: score

2015-03-02 Thread j. van den hoff
On Mon, 02 Mar 2015 22:16:40 +0100, jungle Boogie wrote: Hi j. van den hoff, On 2 March 2015 at 12:54, j. van den hoff wrote: something seems broken, currently (or what am I missing?): issuing `fossil search something' yields SQLITE_ERROR: no such function: score fossil: no

Re: [fossil-users] Justification for two-step mv and rm

2015-03-03 Thread j. van den hoff
On Tue, 03 Mar 2015 22:22:40 +0100, Richard Hipp wrote: On 3/3/15, Warren Young wrote: Is there a good reason that “fossil mv” and “fossil rm” must be followed by OS-level mv and rm commands? I miss the behavior of Subversion which made these into a single step. When I have suggested c

Re: [fossil-users] Justification for two-step mv and rm

2015-03-06 Thread j. van den hoff
rresponding file system action. I understand that some people _want_ this but there needs would be satisfied if that is achieved by `rename/forget' in the future. -Tontyna BTW: As soon as I started exploring Fossil I startet developing a GUI application to comfortably operate Fossil. My

Re: [fossil-users] GitHub question. Was: Git-v-Fossil.

2015-03-14 Thread j. van den hoff
On Sat, 14 Mar 2015 10:18:35 +0100, Stephan Beal wrote: On Sat, Mar 14, 2015 at 5:05 AM, Richard Hipp wrote: I tried going to the "network" graph (https://github.com/mackyle/sqlite/network) which seems similar to the Fossil timeline graph, only sideways. I needed to use github only o

Re: [fossil-users] possible error

2015-03-17 Thread j. van den hoff
On Tue, 17 Mar 2015 17:06:33 +0100, Ramon Ribó wrote: fossil version This is fossil version 1.32 [302052d30b] 2015-02-20 08:30:51 UTC fossil sync Usage: c:\other\binutils\fossil.exe sync URL is it not possible to use "sync" without URL? yes, if you have defined a remote URL via `fossil re

[fossil-users] strangeness

2015-03-27 Thread j. van den hoff
hi list, I have encountered a strange behaviour (of course right now no longer reproducible ...). setup: -- ssh-transport, all permissions fine -- local clone configured to use 'autosync' -- locally running some variant of 1.32, remotely of 1.31 (so updated recently) -- two year old repos

Re: [fossil-users] strangeness

2015-03-27 Thread j. van den hoff
ng. I have no idea how fossil could accept the checkin locally without propagating the checkin to the remote url despite 'autosync on' and without throwing an error... joerg -bch On 3/27/15, j. van den hoff wrote: hi list, I have encountered a strange behaviour (of course right now

Re: [fossil-users] strangeness

2015-03-27 Thread j. van den hoff
On Fri, 27 Mar 2015 21:13:47 +0100, Andy Bradford wrote: Thus said "j. van den hoff" on Fri, 27 Mar 2015 14:37:32 +0100: In a couple of years using fossil I have never encountered something like this. any ideas what might be going on here? The only time I've

Re: [fossil-users] strangeness

2015-03-27 Thread j. van den hoff
On Fri, 27 Mar 2015 21:15:58 +0100, Andy Bradford wrote: Thus said "j. van den hoff" on Fri, 27 Mar 2015 20:37:37 +0100: in any case problem no. 2 is more irritating. I have no idea how fossil could accept the checkin locally without propagating the checkin to the

Re: [fossil-users] Introducing Lagerstatte, an open-source hosting service for Fossil repositories

2015-03-30 Thread j. van den hoff
a marginal point, but in case you care: the german word for repository/deposit actually is "Lagerstätte" where the diacritical mark over the `a' really matters. but "Lagerstatte" sounds really awful (since the "a" is pronounced like the "u" in the English word `up', while the "ä" is similar

Re: [fossil-users] terminology confusion

2015-04-16 Thread j. van den hoff
On Thu, 16 Apr 2015 22:58:55 +0200, Ron W wrote: On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 4:30 PM, Scott Robison wrote: Some thoughts: More seriously, the Wikipedia article on forking is probably worth a read: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fork_(software_development) I would claim that github is the odd

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