RE: Need help building a para Warning tag

2007-02-21 Thread Caroline Tabach
I don’t know quite how you are making HTML help, but many applications have the possibility to use a different type of style in a help project from the Frame file, (sometimes by applying a different template) Caroline Tabach Technical/Marcom Writer     Fax: +972 3 6474681

Re: Query on Tables Numbering and List of Tables

2007-02-21 Thread Radha Padmanabhan
Hi Stuart, MIFMuncher did as you have said. It is so nice to see a list of all paragraph tags with their properties. Thanks all for your help. Regards Radha Technical Writer www.mgl.com Stuart Rogers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: An easy way to learn which of your tags has

RE: Frame's future

2007-02-21 Thread Gordon McLean
Whilst it may be wrong to compare this scenario to one offered by a free product... Firefox and extensions anyone? Add in some charges/licensing and you have what seems to be a good model that is flexible enough for everyone involved, including Adobe? I agree with Shlomo, I think a lot of people

Linking HTML files from FrameMaker source

2007-02-21 Thread Jaya Ghosh
Hello, Can I create a hypertext from the source FrameMaker file to an html file in a different location? If so HOW? Please note the htmls are located in the product installation path and varies from user to user. I tried using the gotolink, message url et all nothing works as it

RE: Structured Frame s-l-o-w-l-y opening a document

2007-02-21 Thread russ
Trevor, This is my experience with long XML files as well. I'm pretty sure it is caused by the application of formatting by the EDD, which takes some time when it has to evaluate formatting rules element-by-element for 500 pages. It doesn't need to do this for a .FM file, because the

Re: RE: Oops! Look ma, no fonts!

2007-02-21 Thread David Creamer
Windings of one sort or another have come with Windows for a long time, I think, but none of them are the same as, comparable with, or versions of, Zapf Dingbats, which is a completely different symbol font, work of Hermann Zapf, one of the 20th C's more eminent font designers. I could be

re: Printed Copies of Uncontrolled Online Documentation

2007-02-21 Thread Shlomo Perets
Eduardo, You wrote: ... 1. I create a document in FrameMaker which is rendered to a PDF and posted on a website. 2. When viewing the PDF online, it looks okay, nothing remarkablepage after page of outstanding content. 3. When printing the PDF, either at the bottom or top or

re: Oops! Look ma, no fonts!

2007-02-21 Thread Shlomo Perets
David Creamer wrote: I could be wrong, but I believe that Monotype Sorts is the Windows TT knock-off of Zapf Dingbats. I don't think it is installed by default, but with additional fonts during a custom install. Visit http://www.microsoft.com/typography/fonts/default.aspx to find out which

Forwarded message on TOC

2007-02-21 Thread Michelle Anderson
This is a forwarded message that had difficulty getting to the list so I am posting it for them. Please respond to the list so that the individual can gain insight and get their question answered. Thanks- Has anyone had an issue with TOCs in structure creating a very large paragraph tag

Re: RE: Oops! Look ma, no fonts!

2007-02-21 Thread Steve Rickaby
At 05:58 -0800 21/2/07, David Creamer wrote: I could be wrong, but I believe that Monotype Sorts is the Windows TT knock-off of Zapf Dingbats. I don't think it is installed by default, but with additional fonts during a custom install. Yes, looks like it...

Re: Frame's future

2007-02-21 Thread John Posada
I'd expect that Adobe would not do it without some sort of financial payment to framescript's developer. --- Rick Quatro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: FrameScript's developer will not do this because it removes an incentive for people to purchase FrameScript. Hundreds of scripts would be

Re: Forwarded message on TOC

2007-02-21 Thread Steve Rickaby
At 08:48 -0600 21/2/07, Michelle Anderson wrote: Has anyone had an issue with TOCs in structure creating a very large paragraph tag for the last TOC entry? If so, how did you resolve? We are having this problem and cannot figure out how to correct it. Otherwise, our TOC works greatŠ.if we could

Size of the book window

2007-02-21 Thread Reng, Winfried Dr.
Hi, FrameMaker 7.1p116 When I change the size of the book window this change is only saved when I also change anything substantial with the book, e.g. switch between the display of file names and heading text. However, when I open the book the next time, the book window has shrinked in both

RE: Need help building a para Warning tag

2007-02-21 Thread Combs, Richard
Ed Lightle wrote: I tried Richard Comb's method for putting graphics for warning symbols on a reference page and creating 2-column tables. Everything worked great for printed output but the graphics don't show up in my HTML Help output. I found that graphics not bounded by an anchored

Need a frame instructor next week

2007-02-21 Thread Sterling Ledet
Dear Framers: I am hoping this is not spamming, so please correct me privately off list if it's inappropriate. I run a chain of Adobe training centers and I'm in a bit of a bind. Next week is Adobe's training partner summit in San Jose, and I have six people signed up for an open enrollment

Re: Frame's future

2007-02-21 Thread Scott Prentice
If you're looking for the complete (as far as I know) list of plugins available for FrameMaker, check out our ToolSearch database .. http://www.leximation.com/toolsearch/?type=Pbaseapp=FM This database includes tools other that FM plugins as well, but you can filter on specific types. If

Track Changes plugin

2007-02-21 Thread obair81
Do folks recommend the Track Changes plugin for Frame 7.2? Thanks. Paul ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit

RE: Need help building a para Warning tag - SOLVED

2007-02-21 Thread Ed Lightle
I found a way in WebWorks ePublisher 9.0's Style Designer to select the warning graphic as a bullet for the Warning paragraph tag that uses the graphic. Maybe this overrides some of the other formatting for my Warning table but the output looks just like it does in the FrameMaker source, and I'm

Fonts they are a-changing

2007-02-21 Thread Rene Stephenson
Hi All, We've received new corporate branding from the parent company that ripples into needing to update our FM templates with a new set of fonts. The branding specifies Helvetica / Helvetica Neue for copy and Rotis Sans Serif for headings. (I hear some groaning at the already-overused

RE: Need help building a para Warning tag

2007-02-21 Thread Diane Gaskill
Ed, The method I described a few days ago has the graphic in a reference frame on the reference page. That frame is anchored and used in a para tag. I've not tried converting it to HTML but I see no reason why it should not convert correctly. If you do not have the message I posted, let me know

Third-party or out of the box plugins [was re: Frame's future]

2007-02-21 Thread hedley . finger
Since my post about plugins diverted this thread from its original topic onto a discussion of the merits of plugins, may I amplify my remarks? The original discussion was, generally, about what Adobe needed to do to find out what functionality their customers would need in the future. I

Re: Fonts they are a-changing

2007-02-21 Thread Rene Stephenson
Thanks, Guy. Yeah - me, too. Maybe it's because they only sent out the preliminary branding stuff, with the final due out in April. I did ask my upline (who told me to send him the purchase info whenever I find it), jumped to another branch and went up that line, too, but no answers so far. We

Daylight savings 3 weeks earlier in US

2007-02-21 Thread Gillian Flato
Don't know if you guys have seen this but Daylight Savings is now 3 weeks earlier in the US. You will have to manually reset your computers. Read the story here. http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2007/02/21/MNGASO8BQ 11.DTL Here's microsoft's info on how to update

problems with master pages in 7.2

2007-02-21 Thread Elisa Sawyer
I'm trying to completely remove room for sideheads from a set of Frame 7.2 files. In the O'Keefe and Loring Complete Reference, it mentions that there should be a pop-up that asks me whether I want to remove the master page overrides. It's not happening, and the room for sideheads is still there

Re: problems with master pages in 7.2

2007-02-21 Thread Rene Stephenson
Clarifying... You have no sideheads in any text flows on any master pages, but when you reapply master pages, you don't get prompted to remove overrides, and yet the sideheads persist...? If I'm correctly understanding your case, I'd try opening the template that has no sideheads and do

RE: Daylight savings 3 weeks earlier in US

2007-02-21 Thread Dov Isaacs
Unless you are running Windows 2000 (or earlier) OR you don't apply the Windows XP updates from Microsoft in a timely fashion, you don't need to do anything. The fix is already applied to your system in Windows XP and the change was built into Windows Vista. - Dov -Original

Re: Daylight savings 3 weeks earlier in US

2007-02-21 Thread Karen Mardahl
For many people, their IT staff get all the fun. :-) Here is another FYI article about the computers: http://www.computer.org/portal/pages/itpro/content/Daylight_Saving_Time_2007.html Wikipedia has a slew of articles at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daylight_saving_time Here is a useful link

Re: problems with master pages in 7.2

2007-02-21 Thread Elisa Sawyer
Thanks! I had been looking at the offending paragraphs, the ones that were actually indented, and after reading your response, I realized that the Headers perhaps needed to be re-set to in column. Yay On 2/21/07, Rene Stephenson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Clarifying... You have no sideheads

Re: Fonts they are a-changing

2007-02-21 Thread Guy K. Haas
Rene-- I'm surprised that The Powers That Be did not suggest/recommend/specify a source for the fonts they are mandating. Is there someone up-line you can ask? --Guy K. Haas Software Exegete in Silicon Valley Rene Stephenson wrote: Hi All, We've received new corporate branding

Frame Cross-Ref source jumps to top of page in PDF created using Actrobat

2007-02-21 Thread Tarlochan S. Nahal
Hi Framers! This is my first message to a Frame users group after a long absence. Maybe you have dealt with this problem before. I am using FM 7.2. I created a pdf file using the Adobe Acrobat 8 Professional. When I click on the figure cross-reference, it takes me to the

FML Announces PatternStream Software Version 2.3 Release

2007-02-21 Thread Marjorie Mayo
FML Announces PatternStream(R) Software Version 2.3 Release GOOCHLAND, VA -- (MARKET WIRE) -- 02/06/2007 -- Finite Matters Ltd. (FML) today announced that PatternStream version 2.3 http://www.patternstream.com/ is available. This upgrade includes a full range of dynamic graph capabilities

RE: Fonts they are a-changing

2007-02-21 Thread Dov Isaacs
I would strongly concur with Guy's advice. There are dozens upon dozens of fonts available with the names Helvetica and Helvetica-Neue from different sources (including Adobe and Linotype) as well as fonts with those names bundled with the MacOS. HOWEVER, despite the same names, there

RE: Daylight savings 3 weeks earlier in US

2007-02-21 Thread Charles Beck
I've heard about this and can't help but wonder why MS can't develop and issue a patch that would fix the calendar/date functionality in Windows. Anyone care to offer a non-cynical speculation? (I'm cynical enough to handle that requirement by myself...) Chuck Beck Sr. Technical Writer | Infor |

Re: Daylight savings 3 weeks earlier in US

2007-02-21 Thread Bill Briggs
At 3:27 PM -0800 2/21/07, Gillian Flato wrote: Don't know if you guys have seen this but Daylight Savings is now 3 weeks earlier in the US. You will have to manually reset your computers. Not if you use a Mac. There was an OS update that fixed this. It's all going to happen automatically, as in

Structured Frame s-l-o-w-l-y opening a document

2007-02-21 Thread Trevor Nicholls
Hi I was interested to read the recent discussions about (why/why not) use structured Framemaker. I started with Framemaker at version 7.2, have never known anything but structured authoring, and adopting unstructured authoring doesn't appeal to me as a positive move in any way. However, that's

Frame's future

2007-02-21 Thread hedley.fin...@myob.com
Another thing Adobe could do is look at all the plug-ins and mods that various people have come up with to scratch an itch -- or stem a raging haemorrhage. For example, there are a whole bunch of indexing tools -- IXgen, emDex, Index Tools Pro, IndexRef, etc. -- suggesting that there is a

Printed Copies of Uncontrolled Online Documentation

2007-02-21 Thread ecid...@zoominternet.net
Hello Fellow Framers and Acrobats alike Back into am pos me Scenario: 1. I create a document in FrameMaker which is rendered to a PDF and on a website. 2. When viewing the PDF online, it look after page of outstanding content. 3. When printing the

Frame's future

2007-02-21 Thread Shlomo Perets
Hedley Finger wrote: > Another thing Adobe could do is look at all the plug-ins and mods that > various people have come up with to scratch an itch -- or stem a raging > haemorrhage. For example, there are a whole bunch of indexing tools -- > IXgen, emDex, Index Tools Pro, IndexRef, etc. --

Frame's future

2007-02-21 Thread Shlomo Perets
You wrote: >Please update to a current version of the FrameMaker Application Pack >for DITA. > > > FrameMaker 7.2 DITA support is "Based on a core plugin developed and > > maintained by Leximation" (quoted from the DITA > About window). > >Is this a problem? Adobe picked a great starting point

Need help building a para Warning tag

2007-02-21 Thread Caroline Tabach
I don?t know quite how you are making HTML help, but many applications have the possibility to use a different type of style in a help project from the Frame file, (sometimes by applying a different template) Caroline?Tabach Technical/Marcom Writer ??? Fax: +972 3 6474681

Frame's future

2007-02-21 Thread Gordon McLean
Whilst it may be wrong to compare this scenario to one offered by a free product... Firefox and extensions anyone? Add in some charges/licensing and you have what seems to be a good model that is flexible enough for everyone involved, including Adobe? I agree with Shlomo, I think a lot of people

Linking HTML files from FrameMaker source

2007-02-21 Thread Jaya Ghosh
Hello, Can I create a hypertext from the source FrameMaker file to an html file in a different location? If so HOW? Please note the htmls are located in the product installation path and varies from user to user. I tried using the gotolink, message url et all nothing works as it seems

Structured Frame s-l-o-w-l-y opening a document

2007-02-21 Thread r...@weststreetconsulting.com
Trevor, This is my experience with long XML files as well. I'm pretty sure it is caused by the application of formatting by the EDD, which takes some time when it has to evaluate formatting rules element-by-element for 500 pages. It doesn't need to do this for a .FM file, because the

Oops! Look ma, no fonts!

2007-02-21 Thread David Creamer
> Windings of one sort or another have come with Windows for a long time, I > think, but none of them are the same as, comparable with, or versions of, Zapf > Dingbats, which is a completely different symbol font, work of Hermann Zapf, > one of the 20th C's more eminent font designers. I could be

Printed Copies of Uncontrolled Online Documentation

2007-02-21 Thread Shlomo Perets
Eduardo, You wrote: > ... > 1. I create a document in FrameMaker which is rendered to a PDF and posted >on a website. > 2. When viewing the PDF online, it looks okay, nothing remarkablepage >after page of outstanding content. > 3. When printing the PDF, either at the bottom or

Oops! Look ma, no fonts!

2007-02-21 Thread Shlomo Perets
David Creamer wrote: > I could be wrong, but I believe that Monotype Sorts is the Windows TT > knock-off of Zapf Dingbats. I don't think it is installed by default, but > with additional fonts during a custom install. Visit http://www.microsoft.com/typography/fonts/default.aspx to find out

Forwarded message on TOC

2007-02-21 Thread Michelle Anderson
This is a forwarded message that had difficulty getting to the list so I am posting it for them. Please respond to the list so that the individual can gain insight and get their question answered. Thanks- Has anyone had an issue with TOCs in structure creating a very large paragraph tag

Oops! Look ma, no fonts!

2007-02-21 Thread Steve Rickaby
At 05:58 -0800 21/2/07, David Creamer wrote: >I could be wrong, but I believe that Monotype Sorts is the Windows TT >knock-off of Zapf Dingbats. I don't think it is installed by default, but >with additional fonts during a custom install. Yes, looks like it...

Frame's future

2007-02-21 Thread John Posada
I'd expect that Adobe would not do it without some sort of financial payment to framescript's developer. --- Rick Quatro wrote: > FrameScript's developer will not do this because it removes an > incentive for > people to purchase FrameScript. Hundreds of scripts would be > distributed > with

Forwarded message on TOC

2007-02-21 Thread Steve Rickaby
At 08:48 -0600 21/2/07, Michelle Anderson wrote: >Has anyone had an issue with TOCs in structure creating a very large paragraph >tag for the last TOC entry? If so, how did you resolve? We are having this >problem and cannot figure out how to correct it. >Otherwise, our TOC works great?.if we

Size of the book window

2007-02-21 Thread Reng, Winfried Dr.
Hi, FrameMaker 7.1p116 When I change the size of the book window this change is only saved when I also change anything substantial with the book, e.g. switch between the display of file names and heading text. However, when I open the book the next time, the book window has shrinked in both

Need help building a para Warning tag

2007-02-21 Thread Combs, Richard
Ed Lightle wrote: > I tried Richard Comb's method for putting graphics for > warning symbols on a reference page and creating 2-column > tables. Everything worked great for printed output but the > graphics don't show up in my HTML Help output. I found that > graphics not bounded by an

Need a frame instructor next week

2007-02-21 Thread Sterling Ledet
Dear Framers: I am hoping this is not spamming, so please correct me privately off list if it's inappropriate. I run a chain of Adobe training centers and I'm in a bit of a bind. Next week is Adobe's training partner summit in San Jose, and I have six people signed up for an open enrollment

Frame's future

2007-02-21 Thread Scott Prentice
If you're looking for the complete (as far as I know) list of plugins available for FrameMaker, check out our ToolSearch database .. http://www.leximation.com/toolsearch/?type=P=FM This database includes tools other that FM plugins as well, but you can filter on specific types. If you know

Track Changes plugin

2007-02-21 Thread obai...@comcast.net
Do folks recommend the Track Changes plugin for Frame 7.2? Thanks. Paul

Need help building a para Warning tag - SOLVED

2007-02-21 Thread Ed Lightle
I found a way in WebWorks ePublisher 9.0's Style Designer to select the warning graphic as a bullet for the Warning paragraph tag that uses the graphic. Maybe this overrides some of the other formatting for my Warning table but the output looks just like it does in the FrameMaker source, and I'm

Fonts they are a-changing

2007-02-21 Thread Rene Stephenson
Hi All, We've received new corporate branding from the "parent company" that ripples into needing to update our FM templates with a new set of fonts. The branding specifies Helvetica / Helvetica Neue for copy and Rotis Sans Serif for headings. (I hear some groaning at the already-overused

Need help building a para Warning tag

2007-02-21 Thread Diane Gaskill
Ed, The method I described a few days ago has the graphic in a reference frame on the reference page. That frame is anchored and used in a para tag. I've not tried converting it to HTML but I see no reason why it should not convert correctly. If you do not have the message I posted, let me know

Fonts they are a-changing

2007-02-21 Thread Rene Stephenson
Thanks, Guy. Yeah - me, too. Maybe it's because they only sent out the "preliminary" branding stuff, with the final due out in April. I did ask my upline (who told me to send him the purchase info whenever I find it), jumped to another branch and went up that line, too, but no answers so far.

Daylight savings 3 weeks earlier in US

2007-02-21 Thread Gillian Flato
Don't know if you guys have seen this but Daylight Savings is now 3 weeks earlier in the US. You will have to manually reset your computers. Read the story here. http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2007/02/21/MNGASO8BQ 11.DTL Here's microsoft's info on how to update networks.

problems with master pages in 7.2

2007-02-21 Thread Elisa Sawyer
I'm trying to completely remove room for sideheads from a set of Frame 7.2 files. In the O'Keefe and Loring "Complete Reference," it mentions that there should be a pop-up that asks me whether I want to remove the master page overrides. It's not happening, and the room for sideheads is still there

problems with master pages in 7.2

2007-02-21 Thread Rene Stephenson
Clarifying... You have no sideheads in any text flows on any master pages, but when you reapply master pages, you don't get prompted to remove overrides, and yet the sideheads persist...? If I'm correctly understanding your case, I'd try opening the template that has no sideheads and do File

Daylight savings 3 weeks earlier in US

2007-02-21 Thread Dov Isaacs
Unless you are running Windows 2000 (or earlier) OR you don't apply the Windows XP updates from Microsoft in a timely fashion, you don't need to do anything. The fix is already applied to your system in Windows XP and the change was built into Windows Vista. - Dov > -Original

problems with master pages in 7.2

2007-02-21 Thread Elisa Sawyer
Thanks! I had been looking at the "offending" paragraphs, the ones that were actually indented, and after reading your response, I realized that the Headers perhaps needed to be re-set to "in column." Yay On 2/21/07, Rene Stephenson wrote: > Clarifying... You have no sideheads in any text

Fonts they are a-changing

2007-02-21 Thread Guy K. Haas
Rene-- I'm surprised that The Powers That Be did not suggest/recommend/specify a source for the fonts they are mandating. Is there someone up-line you can ask? --Guy K. Haas Software Exegete in Silicon Valley Rene Stephenson wrote: > Hi All, > > We've received new corporate branding

Frame Cross-Ref source jumps to top of page in PDF created using Actrobat

2007-02-21 Thread Tarlochan S. Nahal
Hi Framers! This is my first message to a Frame users group after a long absence. Maybe you have dealt with this problem before. I am using FM 7.2. I created a pdf file using the Adobe Acrobat 8 Professional. When I click on the figure cross-reference, it takes me to the source of

FML Announces PatternStream Software Version 2.3 Release

2007-02-21 Thread Marjorie Mayo
FML Announces PatternStream(R) Software Version 2.3 Release GOOCHLAND, VA -- (MARKET WIRE) -- 02/06/2007 -- Finite Matters Ltd. (FML) today announced that PatternStream version 2.3 is available. This upgrade includes a full range of dynamic graph capabilities

Fonts they are a-changing

2007-02-21 Thread Dov Isaacs
I would strongly concur with Guy's advice. There are dozens upon dozens of fonts available with the names Helvetica and Helvetica-Neue from different sources (including Adobe and Linotype) as well as fonts with those names bundled with the MacOS. HOWEVER, despite the same names, there

Daylight savings 3 weeks earlier in US

2007-02-21 Thread Charles Beck
I've heard about this and can't help but wonder why MS can't develop and issue a patch that would fix the calendar/date functionality in Windows. Anyone care to offer a non-cynical speculation? (I'm cynical enough to handle that requirement by myself...) Chuck Beck Sr. Technical Writer | Infor |

Daylight savings 3 weeks earlier in US

2007-02-21 Thread Charles Beck
Apologies! (I should have read all my email before responding.) Cynical query withdrawn with respect and apologies to all. Chuck Sr. Technical Writer | Infor | Office: 614.523.7302 | Charles.Beck at infor.com -Original Message- From:

Daylight savings 3 weeks earlier in US

2007-02-21 Thread Bill Briggs
At 3:27 PM -0800 2/21/07, Gillian Flato wrote: >Don't know if you guys have seen this but Daylight Savings is now 3 >weeks earlier in the US. You will have to manually reset your computers. Not if you use a Mac. There was an OS update that fixed this. It's all going to happen automatically, as