Paul,
We've used TimeSavers, TS-navigation Assistant, and TS-Forms Assistant for
years to produce show-stopping, crowd-pleasing PDFs. There are few tools
that rival its ability to significantly improve quality PDF output. For our
company, TimeSavers is indispensable; right up there with
Hi All,
Competent in Framemaker but new to Robohelp, with the following question:
If you had to design roundtrip documentation and help (Framemaker/Robohelp) for
a constantly evolving product, would you:
a) begin in Framemaker and export to Robohelp
b) begin in Robohelp and export to
Hi Ben
Years ago, during my first single sourcing project for a client (when I
hadn't even heard the term...grin), we started with the help file design. We
ALWAYS started with a map of the components we wanted to include in each
deliverable type and documented what each category of information
I would:
d) Buy the current Adobe Technical Communicator Suite, just a $900 upgrade with
ANY previous license for FM or RH.
...because the new RH and FM8 work together seamlessly. As I understand it, you
don't have to roundtrip stuff back and forth through MIF anymore. You just set
up your RH
Hmm, I gather that the integration isn't quite that smooth between RH and FM
in the Tech Comm Suite. Admittedly, I have only tried it once, but I believe
that it is still a .mif import that you have to repeat if you make changes
to the FM content. Given that, it might not quite be the full-blown
Does anyone know of a way to get a complete list (text is fine) of all
the variables in a FM file and their values?
I'm using FM 7.1
Thank you!
Karene
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Hi.
FM 8.0p273
Windows XP (running on parallels on a Mac)
I am fast approaching the end of my tether working with conditional
This is *much* easier done at the printer than in software of any kind.
Modern professional printer drivers know how to paginate booklets (or
signatures), thus there isn't much sense in doing it in software
unless you are printing at home.
If you ARE printing at home, other respondents have
I'm working with FrameMaker 8.0p273 (unable to download the latest patch
until Adobe puts it on their website) on Windows XP SP2 and noticing
that FM8 frequently crashes when I'm working with a Microsoft Office
application at the same time. It crashes when Outlook looks for new
e-mail, when I
Hi to all,
here is a question from a client: he's just developed a new GPS-based product
in France, has a getting started and user manual written (I'm currently
working on it) in French and would like to know if he is supposed to have them
translated...
I answered yes, you have to have them
Based on a recent evaluation of TCS, my understanding is that the HTML
cannot be round-tripped. What's more, certain things you might want in
your HTML cannot be marked up in Frame. For example, if you want to use
drop-down hotspots, there's no way to mark them up in FrameMaker; you
have to
Here's my 2 cents:
1) Are their rules, laws, or regulations governing this in each country it will
be sold in (note: type of product might have an impact here)
For example, in the USA there _may_ be FDA regulations about documentation
localization for medical devices...FCC regulations about
Regardless what the regulations are in a given country, one would want to
provide the buyer with documentation in the most common language of the country
at the very least.
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of mathieu jacquet
Sent:
How much RAM and free disk (\temp) space do you have on your system?
Art
On Wed, May 21, 2008 at 9:35 AM, Hayward, Morgan (Bolton)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm working with FrameMaker 8.0p273 (unable to download the latest patch
until Adobe puts it on their website) on Windows XP SP2 and
The problem is your track changes feature is on. Go to View Track Text
Edit Bar to open the menu. Accept all of the changes and then turn off
the feature.
-Gillian
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jona
Steenbrink
Sent: Tuesday, May 20,
Hi, Karene.
I strongly recommend BookVars from Leximation ... check out
www.leximation.com for more info. Does more than you asked for, but the
usefulness of it *cannot* be overemphasized! :)
This is probably my most commonly used plug-in for FrameMaker.
Z
Does anyone know of a way to get a
Karene Millar wrote:
Does anyone know of a way to get a complete list (text is fine) of all
the variables in a FM file and their values?
I'm using FM 7.1
Thank you!
Karene
Save the file as .mif, open in a text editor, and search for the string
VariableFormats. What follows is the
I'll take your experience over my watching webinars any day. g
Bummer..
Oh, well, I guess I can just stick with WWP Pro and FM 7.2 for a while longer.
;-)
Rene L. Stephenson
- Original Message
From: Jim Owens [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In fact, as far as I know, any
mathieu jacquet wrote:
Hi to all,
here is a question from a client: he's just developed a new GPS-based
product in France, has a getting started and user manual written
(I'm currently working on it) in French and would like to know if he
is supposed to have them translated...
I answered
Ben Hechter wrote:
If you had to design roundtrip documentation and help
(Framemaker/Robohelp) for a constantly evolving product, would you:
a) begin in Framemaker and export to Robohelp
b) begin in Robohelp and export to Framemaker
c) prototype in both and iterate as you go
I'd pick
Hi Linda,
Just curious why you don't just set these in FM. The settings in FM are in
the PDF Settings dialog box.
Print PDF Settings (Settings tab)
Diane
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Linda G.
Gallagher
Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2008 10:02
IMHO roundtrip means: With two or more applications, changes made to a
project in one application are reflected in both, and it implies that
each application offers some exclusive functionality, and that there is
some translation of some sort that transpires between the applications
so that the
I am having a problem with xrefs to conditional text (where the xref
also has the same condition applied). What happens is, after changing
the conditional text settings (just what is shown), saving, and then
opening the document, the xrefs become unresolved.
Steps:
Initial setup - Document with
If Jim Owens is right, and there are desirable help features that
can't
be implemented via FM, then these are shortcomings in the tools that
ought to be put on the enhancement request list. But, IMHO, make the
HTML roundtrippable should not be one of those requests.
Every tool has it's
Sadly, that is not the problem. Track changes are not, and were not, on.
It's a mystery.
On May 21, 2008, at 10:12 AM, Flato, Gillian wrote:
The problem is your track changes feature is on. Go to View Track
Text
Edit Bar to open the menu. Accept all of the changes and then turn off
the
In the EU, if the documentation includes safety information then it must be in
at least one of the official languages of each country in the EU where the
product is sold.
Safety information is a pretty broad category, but certainly electrical
instructions for charging etc (like a GPS product),
Hi Art,
I have 59.8 GB of 74.5 GB free and 2 GB of RAM.
Regards,
Morgan
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Morgan Hayward
Technical Writer
Husky Injection Molding Systems Ltd.
-Original Message-
From: Art Campbell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2008 12:06 PM
To:
As I have no idea what this conversation is about (great way to open a
discussion in which I offer my thoughts!), I googled round-trip and
the Wikipedia definition says something along the lines of (no, wait,
it's actually a direct quote):
The term round-trip is commonly used in document
That sounds about right to me. In the DITA world, round-tripping might
mean that you could write your document in Frame, export it to XML, edit
the XML in some other editor, then bring it back into Frame with the
edits intact.
Single-sourcing, on the other hand, is a one-way operation where
Diane Gaskill wrote:
- Collapse bookmarks so only the chapter titles show
- Make sure the file opens to the first page of the PDF
Just curious why you don't just set these in FM. The settings in FM are in
the PDF Settings dialog box.
Print PDF Settings (Settings tab)
FrameMaker-to-Acrobat
Have you washed the file by saving out to MIF and opening that file?
Is there any chance that you have book-level conditional text settings
turned on that would over-ride the component chapter file's settings?
Art
On Wed, May 21, 2008 at 12:18 PM, Jona Steenbrink
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Sadly,
For short runs, booklet assembly may be available as a simple embedded printer
software option, if you are using a high-volume network printer/copier.
Ben Hechter
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
www.semitake.com
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Other questions might be: does your client want all of translations in one
document?
Speaking from some translation experience: you also need to decide what
flavours of languages you want? If the product will be sold in Central and
Latin America as well as Europe, you may want to try
On Wed, 21 May 2008 08:31:47 -0700 (PDT), Rene Stephenson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
I would:
d) Buy the current Adobe Technical Communicator Suite, just a $900 upgrade
with ANY previous license for FM or RH.
because the new RH and FM8 work together seamlessly. As I understand it,
you don't
You left out the is between Dying and to.
Thomas Schmidt
-Original Message-
Dying to sit at the grown-ups table,
Deirdre
The Customer Rules! You call, we JUMP!
Update to conditional text (and thanks for everybody's input)
Despite track changes not being on, clicking Accept All Changes, does
get rid of the mark-ups. However, it also got rid of all of the
conditional text. The problem clearly had to do with track changes in
some way, but surely
Apologies in advance - this is probably NOT a position that will use
FrameMaker!
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DETAILS AND CONTACT INFORMATION.
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Hi Ben
Years ago, during my first single sourcing project for a client (when I
hadn't even heard the term...grin), we started with the help file design. We
ALWAYS started with a map of the components we wanted to include in each
deliverable type and documented what each category of information
I would:
d) Buy the current Adobe Technical Communicator Suite, just a $900 upgrade with
ANY previous license for FM or RH.
...because the new RH and FM8 work together seamlessly. As I understand it, you
don't have to roundtrip stuff back and forth through MIF anymore. You just set
up your RH
Hmm, I gather that the integration isn't quite that smooth between RH and FM
in the Tech Comm Suite. Admittedly, I have only tried it once, but I believe
that it is still a .mif import that you have to repeat if you make changes
to the FM content. Given that, it might not quite be the full-blown
This is *much* easier done at the printer than in software of any kind.
Modern professional printer drivers know how to paginate booklets (or
"signatures"), thus there isn't much sense in doing it in software
unless you are printing at home.
If you ARE printing at home, other respondents
I'm working with FrameMaker 8.0p273 (unable to download the latest patch
until Adobe puts it on their website) on Windows XP SP2 and noticing
that FM8 frequently crashes when I'm working with a Microsoft Office
application at the same time. It crashes when Outlook looks for new
e-mail, when I
Hi to all,
here is a question from a client: he's just developed a new GPS-based product
in France, has a "getting started" and "user manual" written (I'm currently
working on it) in French and would like to know if he is supposed to have them
translated...
I answered "yes, you have to have
Based on a recent evaluation of TCS, my understanding is that the HTML
cannot be round-tripped. What's more, certain things you might want in
your HTML cannot be marked up in Frame. For example, if you want to use
drop-down hotspots, there's no way to mark them up in FrameMaker; you
have to
Here's my 2 cents:
1) Are their rules, laws, or regulations governing this in each country it will
be sold in (note: type of product might have an impact here)
For example, in the USA there _may_ be FDA regulations about documentation
localization for medical devices...FCC regulations about
Regardless what the regulations are in a given country, one would want to
provide the buyer with documentation in the most common language of the country
at the very least.
> -Original Message-
> From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces at
>
How much RAM and free disk (\temp) space do you have on your system?
Art
On Wed, May 21, 2008 at 9:35 AM, Hayward, Morgan (Bolton)
wrote:
> I'm working with FrameMaker 8.0p273 (unable to download the latest patch
> until Adobe puts it on their website) on Windows XP SP2 and noticing
> that FM8
The problem is your track changes feature is on. Go to View > Track Text
Edit Bar to open the menu. Accept all of the changes and then turn off
the feature.
-Gillian
-Original Message-
From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On
Hi, Karene.
I strongly recommend BookVars from Leximation ... check out
www.leximation.com for more info. Does more than you asked for, but the
usefulness of it *cannot* be overemphasized! :)
This is probably my most commonly used plug-in for FrameMaker.
Z
> Does anyone know of a way to get a
Karene Millar wrote:
> Does anyone know of a way to get a complete list (text is fine) of all
> the variables in a FM file and their values?
>
> I'm using FM 7.1
>
> Thank you!
>
> Karene
Save the file as .mif, open in a text editor, and search for the string
"VariableFormats". What follows
I'll take your experience over my watching webinars any day.
Bummer..
Oh, well, I guess I can just stick with WWP Pro and FM 7.2 for a while longer.
;-)
Rene L. Stephenson
- Original Message
From: Jim Owens
In fact, as far as I know, any modifications
mathieu jacquet wrote:
> Hi to all,
>
> here is a question from a client: he's just developed a new GPS-based
> product in France, has a "getting started" and "user manual" written
> (I'm currently working on it) in French and would like to know if he
> is supposed to have them translated...
>
>
Ben Hechter wrote:
> If you had to design roundtrip documentation and help
> (Framemaker/Robohelp) for a constantly evolving product, would you:
>
> a) begin in Framemaker and export to Robohelp
> b) begin in Robohelp and export to Framemaker
> c) prototype in both and iterate as you go
I'd
Hi Linda,
Just curious why you don't just set these in FM. The settings in FM are in
the PDF Settings dialog box.
Print > PDF Settings (Settings tab)
Diane
-Original Message-
From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com]On Behalf Of Linda
IMHO roundtrip means: With two or more applications, changes made to a
project in one application are reflected in both, and it implies that
each application offers some exclusive functionality, and that there is
some translation of some sort that transpires between the applications
so that the
I am having a problem with xrefs to conditional text (where the xref
also has the same condition applied). What happens is, after changing
the conditional text settings (just what is shown), saving, and then
opening the document, the xrefs become unresolved.
Steps:
Initial setup - Document with
>
> If Jim Owens is right, and there are desirable help features that
can't
> be implemented via FM, then these are shortcomings in the tools that
> ought to be put on the enhancement request list. But, IMHO, "make the
> HTML roundtrippable" should not be one of those requests.
>
Every tool has
Sadly, that is not the problem. Track changes are not, and were not, on.
It's a mystery.
On May 21, 2008, at 10:12 AM, Flato, Gillian wrote:
> The problem is your track changes feature is on. Go to View > Track
> Text
> Edit Bar to open the menu. Accept all of the changes and then turn off
>
In the EU, if the documentation includes safety information then it must be in
at least one of the official languages of each country in the EU where the
product is sold.
Safety information is a pretty broad category, but certainly electrical
instructions for charging etc (like a GPS product),
Hi Art,
I have 59.8 GB of 74.5 GB free and 2 GB of RAM.
Regards,
Morgan
_
Morgan Hayward
Technical Writer
Husky Injection Molding Systems Ltd.
-Original Message-
From: Art Campbell [mailto:art.campb...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2008 12:06
As I have no idea what this conversation is about (great way to open a
discussion in which I offer my thoughts!), I googled "round-trip" and
the Wikipedia definition says something along the lines of (no, wait,
it's actually a direct quote):
"The term round-trip is commonly used in document
That sounds about right to me. In the DITA world, "round-tripping" might
mean that you could write your document in Frame, export it to XML, edit
the XML in some other editor, then bring it back into Frame with the
edits intact.
Single-sourcing, on the other hand, is a one-way operation where
Diane Gaskill wrote:
> > - Collapse bookmarks so only the chapter titles show
> > - Make sure the file opens to the first page of the PDF
>Just curious why you don't just set these in FM. The settings in FM are in
>the PDF Settings dialog box.
>Print > PDF Settings (Settings tab)
Have you washed the file by saving out to MIF and opening that file?
Is there any chance that you have book-level conditional text settings
turned on that would over-ride the component chapter file's settings?
Art
On Wed, May 21, 2008 at 12:18 PM, Jona Steenbrink
wrote:
> Sadly, that is not the
For short runs, booklet assembly may be available as a simple embedded printer
software option, if you are using a high-volume network printer/copier.
Ben Hechter
bhechter at objectives.ca
www.semitake.com
Other questions might be: does your client want all of translations in one
document?
Speaking from some translation experience: you also need to decide what
"flavours" of languages you want? If the product will be sold in Central and
Latin America as well as Europe, you may want to try
On Wed, 21 May 2008 08:31:47 -0700 (PDT), Rene Stephenson wrote:
>I would:
>d) Buy the current Adobe Technical Communicator Suite, just a $900 upgrade
>with ANY previous license for FM or RH.
>
>because the new RH and FM8 work together seamlessly. As I understand it,
>you don't have to
You left out the "is" between "Dying" and "to".
Thomas Schmidt
-Original Message-
Dying to sit at the grown-ups table,
Deirdre
The Customer Rules! You call, we JUMP!
Update to conditional text (and thanks for everybody's input)
Despite track changes not being on, clicking Accept All Changes, does
get rid of the mark-ups. However, it also got rid of all of the
conditional text. The problem clearly had to do with track changes in
some way, but surely
Apologies in advance - this is probably NOT a position that will use
FrameMaker!
Please do NOT reply to this email address. USE THE LINK BELOW FOR MORE
DETAILS AND CONTACT INFORMATION.
A former coworker at Perfect Market, an Idealab company, has asked me to
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