Re: File Organization for Translation

2009-09-30 Thread Bill Swallow
You're thinking too hard. ;) TM is managing the translated content, you just need to manage the files. One directory for each language. Product Version Language Deliverable However you want to break it down from there... FM directories, graphics, whatever. On Wed, Se

Re: Creating right tab with leader consisting of unbroken (mid) line [resend]

2009-09-30 Thread Michael Kerrisk
Hi Art, Les, and all, Winfried off list also pointed out to me how the way to use em-dash or en-dash here. This solution is nearly good enough, There is one small problem: the resulting leader does not quite begin at the left margin. I suppose that this is because a whole number of dashes doesn't

Has anyone successfully converted a FM 9.0 Book to RoboHelp 8 . . .

2009-09-30 Thread Michael McGrail
I need to convert a FM 9 book to RoboHelp 8. Has anyone done this successfully? DISCLAIMER: The information contained in this email may be confidential and/or legally privileged. It has been sent for the sole use of the intended recipient(s). If the reader of this message is not an intended

File Organization for Translation

2009-09-30 Thread Alison Craig
I've just finished transferring my base MS Word user manual into FrameMaker9 (if it matters, I'm running on a PC with XP Pro and unstructured Frame). We translate into several languages and I thought I had my file structure all worked out until I actually went to put together a package for our L

File Organization for Translation

2009-09-30 Thread Alison Craig
I've just finished transferring my base MS Word user manual into FrameMaker9 (if it matters, I'm running on a PC with XP Pro and unstructured Frame). We translate into several languages and I thought I had my file structure all worked out until I actually went to put together a package for our L

Any advantage to upgrade-FM7.2 to FM9?

2009-09-30 Thread Art Campbell
Yup, that was the official release, but there were betas and "escaped" releases way before then. Frame Tech was more of a UNIX house and the UNIX>Linus porting work was largely done there; Adobe never did much with any workstation products Art Campbell art.campbell at gmail.com "

Any advantage to upgrade-FM7.2 to FM9?

2009-09-30 Thread Combs, Richard
Art Campbell wrote: > Yup, that was the official release, but there were betas and "escaped" > releases way before then. Frame Tech was more of a UNIX house and the > UNIX>Linus porting work was largely done there; Adobe never did much > with any workstation products There was no official Linux

Any advantage to upgrade-FM7.2 to FM9?

2009-09-30 Thread Art Campbell
Actually, that was about the point Frame Technology was edging close to running out of money Adobe bought 'em. I think 5.6 was a FT remnant, not a path that Adobe started and then backed away from. Art Campbell art.campbell at gmail.com "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this

Any advantage to upgrade-FM7.2 to FM9?

2009-09-30 Thread Alan Litchfield
Jim Duszynski wrote: > > Another way to ask the question is, does anyone have any experience with FM > 7.2 and compatibility with computer system utilities as time goes by? > Yes. -- Alan Litchfield MBus (Hons), MNZCS AlphaByte PO Box 1941, 1140, Auckland, New Zealand http://www.alphabyte.co.n

Has anyone successfully converted a FM 9.0 Book to RoboHelp 8 . . .

2009-09-30 Thread Michael McGrail
I need to convert a FM 9 book to RoboHelp 8. Has anyone done this successfully? DISCLAIMER: The information contained in this email may be confidential and/or legally privileged. It has been sent for the sole use of the intended recipient(s). If the reader of this message is not an intended

RE: Any advantage to upgrade-FM7.2 to FM9?

2009-09-30 Thread Combs, Richard
Art Campbell wrote: > Yup, that was the official release, but there were betas and "escaped" > releases way before then. Frame Tech was more of a UNIX house and the > UNIX>Linus porting work was largely done there; Adobe never did much > with any workstation products There was no official Linux

Any advantage to upgrade-FM7.2 to FM9?

2009-09-30 Thread Combs, Richard
Art Campbell wrote: > Actually, that was about the point Frame Technology was edging close > to running out of money Adobe bought 'em. I think 5.6 was a FT > remnant, not a path that Adobe started and then backed away from. Adobe acquired Frame Technology about 1994-5, around the time that FM 5

Re: Any advantage to upgrade-FM7.2 to FM9?

2009-09-30 Thread Art Campbell
Yup, that was the official release, but there were betas and "escaped" releases way before then. Frame Tech was more of a UNIX house and the UNIX>Linus porting work was largely done there; Adobe never did much with any workstation products Art Campbell art.campb...@gmail.com "...

Re: Any advantage to upgrade-FM7.2 to FM9?

2009-09-30 Thread Barry.Kieffer
I hope there is! It took a long time for me to convince my (engineering) manager to upgrade me from FrameMaker 7.2 (and RoboHelp 6) to Technical Communication Suite 2. Should have it in a few weeks. Regards, Barry Kieffer Technical Writer Internet, Military, and Consumer

Any advantage to upgrade-FM7.2 to FM9?

2009-09-30 Thread barry.kief...@jeppesen.com
I hope there is! It took a long time for me to convince my (engineering) manager to upgrade me from FrameMaker 7.2 (and RoboHelp 6) to Technical Communication Suite 2. Should have it in a few weeks. Regards, Barry Kieffer Technical Writer Internet, Military, and Consumer

RE: Any advantage to upgrade-FM7.2 to FM9?

2009-09-30 Thread Combs, Richard
Art Campbell wrote: > Actually, that was about the point Frame Technology was edging close > to running out of money Adobe bought 'em. I think 5.6 was a FT > remnant, not a path that Adobe started and then backed away from. Adobe acquired Frame Technology about 1994-5, around the time that FM

Re: Any advantage to upgrade-FM7.2 to FM9?

2009-09-30 Thread Alan Litchfield
OK. I thought Adobe already owned it by then. But my memory is a bit out today (obviously need more coffee). Alan Art Campbell wrote: > Actually, that was about the point Frame Technology was edging close > to running out of money Adobe bought 'em. I think 5.6 was a FT > remnant, not a path tha

Re: Any advantage to upgrade-FM7.2 to FM9?

2009-09-30 Thread Art Campbell
Actually, that was about the point Frame Technology was edging close to running out of money Adobe bought 'em. I think 5.6 was a FT remnant, not a path that Adobe started and then backed away from. Art Campbell art.campb...@gmail.com "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this wo

Re: Any advantage to upgrade-FM7.2 to FM9?

2009-09-30 Thread Alan Litchfield
Oops, no that was 5.5.6 :} It ran on Redhat. Alan Alan Litchfield wrote: > > Bodvar Bjorgvinsson wrote: > >> >> I am waiting for FM for Linux! ;-) > > There was one. V5.2(?). I still have a binary for it. It ran very well under X > and I used it with Windowmaker as well as Gnome. > > It was quit

Re: Any advantage to upgrade-FM7.2 to FM9?

2009-09-30 Thread Alan Litchfield
Bodvar Bjorgvinsson wrote: > > I am waiting for FM for Linux! ;-) There was one. V5.2(?). I still have a binary for it. It ran very well under X and I used it with Windowmaker as well as Gnome. It was quite good but Adobe decided against proceeding down that route because there did not appear t

Any advantage to upgrade-FM7.2 to FM9?

2009-09-30 Thread Shmuel Wolfson
I think it's worth upgrading before falling off the "upgrade path." *If* in the next version you can only upgrade from 8.0, then you are stuck using the old version forever unless you want to buy a new version, which is much more expensive than the upgrade. So every few versions I think it's wo

Layout of automatic generate Index gets lost due to (unused) missing font

2009-09-30 Thread de Rouck, Tom (Gent)
Dear Frame-users, Using Framemaker 7.2 (but having the same behavior in Framemaker 8) on Windows XP, the layout of our automatic generated Index gets completely lost: all styles become Times New Roman, size 12 pt. This for all PCs that have a missing font, even when that font is not used at all

Centering text vertically on a page

2009-09-30 Thread Art Campbell
There isn't an easy way to do this if you want to control multiple pages of variable-length or flowing text because Frame is container-based. You put text into an object and control placement that way. If you only have to do it occasionally, or for fixed-length text that doesn't have to flow, you

Creating right tab with leader consisting of unbroken (mid) line [resend]

2009-09-30 Thread Art Campbell
On FM 8, I can set an m-dash as the leading character for a right tab by inserting it in text and copy-and-pasting it into the Leading character field (or use Lester's character string). If the m-dashes don't connect, it'll be more complicated, but not bad. On the Font tab for the paragraph, set th

Layout of automatic generate Index gets lost due to (unused) missing font

2009-09-30 Thread Stuart Rogers
de Rouck, Tom (Gent) wrote: > Dear Frame-users, > > Using Framemaker 7.2 (but having the same behavior in Framemaker 8) on > Windows XP, the layout of our automatic generated Index gets completely lost: > all styles become Times New Roman, size 12 pt. This for all PCs that have a > missing font

Layout of automatic generate Index gets lost due to (unused) missing font

2009-09-30 Thread Art Campbell
What happens when you set the preferences of the PCs to Ignore Missing Fonts? >From what, or where, is the automatically generated Index text getting its formats? Art Campbell art.campbell at gmail.com "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a re

Creating right tab with leader consisting of unbroken (mid) line [resend]

2009-09-30 Thread Lise Bible
Just off the top of my head...I''m not a Frame expert by any means, but would a table work? 2 columns, 2 rows, put your text in the top right-most cell, then straddle the two cells in that column. Make sure the paragraph style for your text includes Cell Vertical Alignment= Middle, and make it righ

Any advantage to upgrade-FM7.2 to FM9?

2009-09-30 Thread Milton, Cynthia
Classification: NOT PROTECTIVELY MARKED Amongst other things, the Apply Master Pages thingy is great when you have a mixture of portrait and landscape pages - makes it simple to ensure they all stay the right way round. Saved me shedloads of hassle. Other stuff: spreading it across multiple sc

Any advantage to upgrade-FM7.2 to FM9?

2009-09-30 Thread Bodvar Bjorgvinsson
Multiple undo is already included in 7.2, bu 7.2 does not accept unicode, which is almost a must for other languages than English, German or French (and maybe a couple of other langages). Better Dita support and a few other things. Other than the language thing, I too find it hard to justify the c

Centering text vertically on a page

2009-09-30 Thread Combs, Richard
Jim Duszynski wrote: > How do I center text vertically on a page? Create a borderless single-cell table set to start at the top of the page. In Table > Row Format, make its height fill the text frame. In it, put a paragraph whose Cell Vertical Alignment is set to Middle. Alternatively, create a

Any advantage to upgrade-FM7.2 to FM9?

2009-09-30 Thread Alexandra Wilowska
I haven't got as far as FM9, but the upgrade from FM7.2 to FM8 was well worth it for me because of its support of Boolean operators in condition expressions. I use conditions a lot and this feature (in conjunction with FrameScript - the standalone Boolean condition functionality in FM8 isn't useful

Creating right tab with leader consisting of unbroken (mid) line [resend]

2009-09-30 Thread Michael Kerrisk
Hello, I have a simple question (I think). I Would like to create a visual effect (that will be repeatedly used) where a some text on a line is tabbed to the right margin, and preceded by an unbroken line that sits at the mid-level of the characters in the text. Roughly it would look like this: ?

Any advantage to upgrade-FM7.2 to FM9?

2009-09-30 Thread Art Campbell
Rather than relist what's already been mentioned, I think 9 is more stable than 7, noticably so in book operations. On my system, I think it may even be a little quicker. I also like the ability to spread the interface over two monitors, although I dislike the need to do so. A big plus is the inte

Any advantage to upgrade-FM7.2 to FM9?

2009-09-30 Thread Scott White
In my line of work of building catalogs, this upgrade has been a big disappointment. We upgraded for the sole purpose of using 4-color processing that supposedly this version supported. And it does to some extent. However, it does not support spot color or tints even though documentation su

RE: Centering text vertically on a page

2009-09-30 Thread Combs, Richard
Jim Duszynski wrote: > How do I center text vertically on a page? Create a borderless single-cell table set to start at the top of the page. In Table > Row Format, make its height fill the text frame. In it, put a paragraph whose Cell Vertical Alignment is set to Middle. Alternatively, create

Re: Creating right tab with leader consisting of unbroken (mid) line [resend]

2009-09-30 Thread Lise Bible
Just off the top of my head...I''m not a Frame expert by any means, but would a table work? 2 columns, 2 rows, put your text in the top right-most cell, then straddle the two cells in that column. Make sure the paragraph style for your text includes Cell Vertical Alignment= Middle, and make it righ

Re: Centering text vertically on a page

2009-09-30 Thread Art Campbell
There isn't an easy way to do this if you want to control multiple pages of variable-length or flowing text because Frame is container-based. You put text into an object and control placement that way. If you only have to do it occasionally, or for fixed-length text that doesn't have to flow, you

Re: Creating right tab with leader consisting of unbroken (mid) line [resend]

2009-09-30 Thread Art Campbell
On FM 8, I can set an m-dash as the leading character for a right tab by inserting it in text and copy-and-pasting it into the Leading character field (or use Lester's character string). If the m-dashes don't connect, it'll be more complicated, but not bad. On the Font tab for the paragraph, set th

Re: Layout of automatic generate Index gets lost due to (unused) missing font

2009-09-30 Thread Stuart Rogers
de Rouck, Tom (Gent) wrote: > Dear Frame-users, > > Using Framemaker 7.2 (but having the same behavior in Framemaker 8) on > Windows XP, the layout of our automatic generated Index gets completely lost: > all styles become Times New Roman, size 12 pt. This for all PCs that have a > missing font

Re: Layout of automatic generate Index gets lost due to (unused) missing font

2009-09-30 Thread Art Campbell
What happens when you set the preferences of the PCs to Ignore Missing Fonts? >From what, or where, is the automatically generated Index text getting its formats? Art Campbell art.campb...@gmail.com "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a redhe

Re: Any advantage to upgrade-FM7.2 to FM9?

2009-09-30 Thread Scott White
In my line of work of building catalogs, this upgrade has been a big disappointment. We upgraded for the sole purpose of using 4-color processing that supposedly this version supported. And it does to some extent. However, it does not support spot color or tints even though documentation su

Re: Creating right tab with leader consisting of unbroken (mid) line [resend]

2009-09-30 Thread Les Smalley
Try entering  \=  (the "magic sauce" for an en dash in a dialog box) or  \m  (for an em dash) in the custom leader character box.  On screen in FM, it may look as though there are slight gaps (especially at different zoom settings), but make a PDF and they should connect. – Les --- On Wed, 9/

Creating right tab with leader consisting of unbroken (mid) line [resend]

2009-09-30 Thread Les Smalley
Try entering? \=? (the "magic sauce" for an en dash in a dialog box) or? \m? (for an em dash) in the custom leader character box.? On screen in FM, it may look as though there are slight gaps (especially at different zoom settings), but make a PDF and they should connect. ? Les --- On Wed, 9/

Re: Any advantage to upgrade-FM7.2 to FM9?

2009-09-30 Thread Art Campbell
Rather than relist what's already been mentioned, I think 9 is more stable than 7, noticably so in book operations. On my system, I think it may even be a little quicker. I also like the ability to spread the interface over two monitors, although I dislike the need to do so. A big plus is the inte

Layout of automatic generate Index gets lost due to (unused) missing font

2009-09-30 Thread de Rouck, Tom (Gent)
Dear Frame-users, Using Framemaker 7.2 (but having the same behavior in Framemaker 8) on Windows XP, the layout of our automatic generated Index gets completely lost: all styles become Times New Roman, size 12 pt. This for all PCs that have a missing font, even when that font is not used at all

Any advantage to upgrade-FM7.2 to FM9?

2009-09-30 Thread Milton, Cynthia
Classification: NOT PROTECTIVELY MARKED Amongst other things, the Apply Master Pages thingy is great when you have a mixture of portrait and landscape pages - makes it simple to ensure they all stay the right way round. Saved me shedloads of hassle. Other stuff: spreading it across multiple s

RE: Any advantage to upgrade-FM7.2 to FM9?

2009-09-30 Thread Alexandra Wilowska
I haven't got as far as FM9, but the upgrade from FM7.2 to FM8 was well worth it for me because of its support of Boolean operators in condition expressions. I use conditions a lot and this feature (in conjunction with FrameScript - the standalone Boolean condition functionality in FM8 isn't useful

Creating right tab with leader consisting of unbroken (mid) line [resend]

2009-09-30 Thread Michael Kerrisk
Hello, I have a simple question (I think). I Would like to create a visual effect (that will be repeatedly used) where a some text on a line is tabbed to the right margin, and preceded by an unbroken line that sits at the mid-level of the characters in the text. Roughly it would look like this:  

Re: Any advantage to upgrade-FM7.2 to FM9?

2009-09-30 Thread Shmuel Wolfson
I think it's worth upgrading before falling off the "upgrade path." *If* in the next version you can only upgrade from 8.0, then you are stuck using the old version forever unless you want to buy a new version, which is much more expensive than the upgrade. So every few versions I think it's wo

Re: Any advantage to upgrade-FM7.2 to FM9?

2009-09-30 Thread Bodvar Bjorgvinsson
Multiple undo is already included in 7.2, bu 7.2 does not accept unicode, which is almost a must for other languages than English, German or French (and maybe a couple of other langages). Better Dita support and a few other things. Other than the language thing, I too find it hard to justify the c