Re-installing FM 8 onto a new drive ...

2008-12-11 Thread David Creamer
I am now at the stage of re-installing FrameMaker 8 and have some questions (one a bit belated). This has been answered, but I thought I'd donate my 2 cents... 1. I assumed that FM 8 works fine on Vista (both 32-bit and 64-bit). Is this accurate? (A bit belated of a question, I suppose, but

3rd party spell checkers, grammar checkers for FrameMaker

2008-12-11 Thread Larry Hotmail
Does anyone on the list have any experience with 3rd party spell checkers or grammar checkers for FrameMaker? I'm particularly interested in plug-ins that work in v8.x. Thanks. ___ Larry S. Bonura P.O. Box 1365 Espanola NM 87532-1365 Email: [EMAIL

RE: Re-installing FM 8 onto a new drive ...

2008-12-11 Thread Syed.Hosain
I use both FM 7.2 and 8 on the same Vista 32-bit system without problems. I just open the version I want to use first. Curiosity question: I see a number of people keeping FM7.2 on their systems. Why? Wouldn't it be simpler to go to FM8 and be done with it? I don't have a need to send .fm or

RE: FM file per country for same software

2008-12-11 Thread Martinek, Carla
Since I *just* got one of my recalcitrant writers to upgrade to FM8 a few months ago, we haven't implemented the expressions feature in FM8. It's on my to-do list... Along with about 30,000 other things... :-) We'll all be in FM9 before I get around that that, tho... -Original

Searching the Framers archives

2008-12-11 Thread Adriana Harper
Hello, I am totally new both to your mailing list, and to Framemaker 8. I have a bunch of questions, but before I send you those, I was wondering if there is an easy way to search your archives, as I do not want to ask questions that have already been previously answered. Thank you,

Re: Searching the Framers archives

2008-12-11 Thread Art Campbell
The archive for this list has always been hit-or-miss. Best bet is to Google, because that would include hits from the other Frame mailing list at omsys.com (freeFrameers) and the Adobe User-to-User forum. Both of which you may want to join if you're a new FM user. Art Art Campbell

RE: Searching the Framers archives

2008-12-11 Thread McCallister, Michael (GE Healthcare, consultant)
Adriana, Welcome to the list! Art is right about generating hits from other FrameMaker forums, but doing a site-specific search is also useful for this list. After typing your search terms, add site:lists.framers.com (no quotes). Mike -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: Searching the Framers archives

2008-12-11 Thread McCallister, Michael (GE Healthcare, consultant)
Oops! That's site:lists.frameusers.com! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of McCallister, Michael (GE Healthcare, consultant) Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2008 9:50 AM To: Art Campbell; Adriana Harper Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com

RE: Re-installing FM 8 onto a new drive ...

2008-12-11 Thread Syed.Hosain
Wouldn't it be simpler to go to FM8 and be done with it? Maybe. But. - If FM 7.2 does everything you need, there might not be a reason to update. - Not everybody can get the money for updates. While it might be relatively cheap to buy a single license, the cost grows quickly when you need

RE: Book file PDF problem

2008-12-11 Thread Jo Watkiss
I had a look in the Frame print dialogue but can't see an option to print a single file or separate files - maybe this is something introduced later than Frame 6.0? I have found a work around though - which is to print to file targetting a different printer (ie. not Adobe PDF) - and then

Re: Book file PDF problem

2008-12-11 Thread Art Campbell
It's possible that it was introduced later than 6 -- there aren't a lot of people using that version because it's an antique. If I recall correctly, there is a field in which you specify the name of the PDF file though. I also recall that if you put an asterisk in that field, it's the signal to

RE: ANN: Job seeking

2008-12-11 Thread Jon Harvey
Hi Jeremy, You've obviously hit upon a business model that works well while making a lot of un/underemployed people very happy. Every thought about taking over for what's-his-name at GM?.:) Jon Harvey Manager, Desktop Documentation CambridgeSoft Corporation 100 CambridgePark Drive

RE: Book file PDF problem

2008-12-11 Thread David Spreadbury
y work machine has 7.2 on it and those options are there. I don't have access to 8 here so I can't say whether they kept it. I can't see why Adobe would have dropped that option though. --- On Thu, 12/11/08, Jo Watkiss [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Jo Watkiss [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE:

RE: Book file PDF problem

2008-12-11 Thread Combs, Richard
Jo Watkiss wrote: I had a look in the Frame print dialogue but can't see an option to print a single file or separate files - maybe this is something introduced later than Frame 6.0? FM7.2 has a Print Book As setting, and you can choose Single Print Job or Separate Print Job for Each

Cross references without active hyperlinks in PDF files

2008-12-11 Thread Doug
Hello: Is there a way to define a cross-reference format such that this cross reference does not generate an active hyperlink in a PDF file? I use cross references as a convenient way to reuse content from a single location. I've defined these cross references to show up in black text whereas

Re: Cross references without active hyperlinks in PDF files

2008-12-11 Thread Lin Sims
Three options for repeating text: 1. You can have more than one text inset in a file so long as you put each one in its own uniquely named flow. 2. If you like the idea of variables, why not add them to the template file you use to create new documents? No reimporting needed. 3. Get the Autotext

RE: Cross references without active hyperlinks in PDF files

2008-12-11 Thread Combs, Richard
Doug wrote: I use cross references as a convenient way to reuse content from a single location. I've defined these cross references to show up in black text whereas the cross references that I want people to link to are defined to show up in blue text. I figured that readers will then

RE: Book file PDF problem

2008-12-11 Thread Jo Watkiss
Bad, bad, bad idea! This means you're generating PostScript specific to that printer and with the limitations of that printer. Agree 100% - its only a work around for now until I get this sorted. Anyway, if changing to a different printer driver changed your output from separate chapter PDFs to

Re: Book file PDF problem

2008-12-11 Thread Art Campbell
Yes, it's there in FM 7, but Jo is running FM 6. Which is why she needs to use the * to specify discrete files in the Printer dialog's Destination (?) field. Art Art Campbell art.campb...@gmail.com ... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent

RE: Book file PDF problem

2008-12-11 Thread Jo Watkiss
Agreed - Frame 6 is ancient, and I suspect that's why I'm having these problems. Do you know if the FM8 evaluation will sit alongside my FM6 or would I need to roll-back afterwards if necessary? Thanks, Jo -Original Message- From: Art Campbell [mailto:art.campb...@gmail.com] Sent: 11

RE: Book file PDF problem

2008-12-11 Thread Lea Rush
I know that FM8 sat next to my FM7 install politely. I believe that I installed to a separate directory, but other than that, it was pretty simple. Lea _ Lea Rush Software and Documentation Specialist Astoria-Pacific International PO Box 830 Clackamas OR 97015

Re: Book file PDF problem

2008-12-11 Thread Art Campbell
It'll co-exist with another FM install just fine. However, I don't think you can back-save from 8 to a 6 compatible MIF format. I think it only supports back-saving to FM 7. But depending on what version of Acrobat you're using, you may have some juggling to do, because 8 installs the current

RE: Book file PDF problem

2008-12-11 Thread Combs, Richard
Jo Watkiss wrote: Anyway, if changing to a different printer driver changed your output from separate chapter PDFs to a single book PDF, then something's wrong somewhere. Yup. I suspect the answer is upgrade my FrameMaker. No. Unless you need to for other reasons. When I said something's

Re: Cross references without active hyperlinks in PDF files

2008-12-11 Thread Rick Quatro
Hi Doug, I recently solved the exact problem for a client using FrameScript. The script does the following: 1) Backs up the book components. 2) Converts the specified cross-reference formats to plain text. 3) Restores the backed up components, thus restoring the cross-references. It all

Re: Re-installing FM 8 onto a new drive ...

2008-12-11 Thread David Creamer
On syed.hos...@aeris.net at syed.hos...@aeris.net wrote on 12/11/08 7:22 AM: Curiosity question: I see a number of people keeping FM7.2 on their systems. Why? Wouldn't it be simpler to go to FM8 and be done with it? I don't have a need to send .fm or .book files to people, but if I did, I

RE: Re-installing FM 8 onto a new drive ...

2008-12-11 Thread Syed.Hosain
I'm an Adobe trainer, so I need both versions depending on which version my client has. I also have InDesign CS2, CS3, and CS4 on my computer too. (The government is usually the last to upgrade...) Ah! Got it ... I am not sure I understand this exactly. Do you mean that when you did an FM

Re: ANN: Job seeking

2008-12-11 Thread Jeremy H. Griffith
On Thu, 11 Dec 2008 12:20:51 -0500, Jon Harvey jhar...@cambridgesoft.com wrote: You've obviously hit upon a business model that works well while making a lot of un/underemployed people very happy. Yes, it does work well. And that's why we talk about it. We'd like to see other vendors, in

Re: Re-installing FM 8 onto a new drive ...

2008-12-11 Thread Jeremy H. Griffith
On Thu, 11 Dec 2008 08:22:26 -0700, syed.hos...@aeris.net wrote: Curiosity question: I see a number of people keeping FM7.2 on their systems. Why? Wouldn't it be simpler to go to FM8 and be done with it? I don't have a need to send .fm or .book files to people, but if I did, I could save it in

RE: Re-installing FM 8 onto a new drive ...

2008-12-11 Thread Syed.Hosain
Curiosity question: I see a number of people keeping FM7.2 on their systems. Why? Wouldn't it be simpler to go to FM8 and be done with it? I don't have a need to send .fm or .book files to people, but if I did, I could save it in FM7.2 format if needed (as far as I recall) from within FM

Re: Book file PDF problem

2008-12-11 Thread Mike Wickham
Having recently upgraded to Acrobat 8 (from 5), I now find that I can't print a book file to a single pdf. When you installed Acrobat 8, did you first uninstall v.5 (and any version of Adobe Reader or the distiller that came with FrameMaker)? Since version 6, Dov Isaacs of Adobe has warned us

Re: Cross references without active hyperlinks in PDF files

2008-12-11 Thread Shlomo Perets
Doug, You wrote: Is there a way to define a cross-reference format such that this cross reference does not generate an active hyperlink in a PDF file? ... Only option within FrameMaker is to take advantage of the limitation/bug whereby cross-references in text insets are not converted to active

Book file > PDF problem

2008-12-11 Thread Jo Watkiss
Having recently upgraded to Acrobat 8 (from 5), I now find that I can't print a book file to a single pdf. 'Print to file' doesn't work, and using Acrobat's 'Adobe PDF' just produces a separate pdf file for each file in the book (with cross-document links broken). What am I doing wrong? I'm

Book file > PDF problem

2008-12-11 Thread David Spreadbury
Jo, In the Frame Print dialog, is Save Boos As have Single File selected? You may have the Separate File for Each Document selected. ? I don't understand the links not working because they always hve for me when I have Separate Files selected. --- On Thu, 12/11/08, Jo Watkiss wrote: From: Jo

FM file per country for same software

2008-12-11 Thread Fred Wersan
It is not clear from the original email how intertwined the country differences are. If much of a given chapter is identical, then an inset strategy might work. Make the text that is identical for both countries an inset and keep the text that is different maintained locally. Then you wouldn't

Re-installing FM 8 onto a new drive ...

2008-12-11 Thread David Creamer
> I am now at the stage of re-installing FrameMaker 8 and have some questions > (one a bit belated). > This has been answered, but I thought I'd donate my 2 cents... > 1. I assumed that FM 8 works fine on Vista (both 32-bit and 64-bit). Is this > accurate? (A bit belated of a question, I

3rd party spell checkers, grammar checkers for FrameMaker

2008-12-11 Thread Larry Hotmail
Does anyone on the list have any experience with 3rd party spell checkers or grammar checkers for FrameMaker? I'm particularly interested in plug-ins that work in v8.x. Thanks. ___ Larry S. Bonura P.O. Box 1365 Espanola NM 87532-1365 Email: lbonura

Re-installing FM 8 onto a new drive ...

2008-12-11 Thread syed.hos...@aeris.net
> I use both FM 7.2 and 8 on the same Vista 32-bit system without problems. > I just open the version I want to use first. Curiosity question: I see a number of people keeping FM7.2 on their systems. Why? Wouldn't it be simpler to go to FM8 and be done with it? I don't have a need to send .fm or

Searching the Framers archives

2008-12-11 Thread Adriana Harper
Hello, I am totally new both to your mailing list, and to Framemaker 8. I have a bunch of questions, but before I send you those, I was wondering if there is an easy way to search your archives, as I do not want to ask questions that have already been previously answered. Thank you,

Searching the Framers archives

2008-12-11 Thread Art Campbell
The archive for this list has always been hit-or-miss. Best bet is to Google, because that would include hits from the other Frame mailing list at omsys.com (freeFrameers) and the Adobe User-to-User forum. Both of which you may want to join if you're a new FM user. Art Art Campbell

Searching the Framers archives

2008-12-11 Thread McCallister, Michael (GE Healthcare, consultant)
Adriana, Welcome to the list! Art is right about generating hits from other FrameMaker forums, but doing a site-specific search is also useful for this list. After typing your search terms, add "site:lists.framers.com" (no quotes). Mike -Original Message- From:

Searching the Framers archives

2008-12-11 Thread McCallister, Michael (GE Healthcare, consultant)
Oops! That's "site:lists.frameusers.com"! -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of McCallister, Michael (GE Healthcare, consultant) Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2008 9:50 AM To: Art Campbell; Adriana

Re-installing FM 8 onto a new drive ...

2008-12-11 Thread Mike Feimster
Wouldn't it be simpler to go to FM8 and be done with it? Maybe. But. - If FM 7.2 does everything you need, there might not be a reason to update. - Not everybody can get the money for updates. While it might be relatively cheap to buy a single license, the cost grows quickly when you need to

Re-installing FM 8 onto a new drive ...

2008-12-11 Thread syed.hos...@aeris.net
> > Wouldn't it be simpler to go to FM8 and be done with it? > Maybe. But. > - If FM 7.2 does everything you need, there might not be a reason to update. > - Not everybody can get the money for updates. While it might be relatively cheap to buy a single license, the cost grows quickly when you

Book file > PDF problem

2008-12-11 Thread Jo Watkiss
I had a look in the Frame print dialogue but can't see an option to print a single file or separate files - maybe this is something introduced later than Frame 6.0? I have found a work around though - which is to print to file targetting a different printer (ie. not Adobe PDF) - and then

Book file > PDF problem

2008-12-11 Thread Art Campbell
It's possible that it was introduced later than 6 -- there aren't a lot of people using that version because it's an antique. If I recall correctly, there is a field in which you specify the name of the PDF file though. I also recall that if you put an asterisk in that field, it's the signal to

ANN: Job seeking

2008-12-11 Thread Jon Harvey
Hi Jeremy, You've obviously hit upon a business model that works well while making a lot of un/underemployed people very happy. Every thought about taking over for what's-his-name at GM?.:) Jon Harvey Manager, Desktop Documentation CambridgeSoft Corporation 100 CambridgePark Drive

Book file > PDF problem

2008-12-11 Thread David Spreadbury
y work machine has 7.2 on it and those options are there. I don't have access to 8 here so I can't say whether they kept it. I can't see why Adobe would have dropped that option though. --- On Thu, 12/11/08, Jo Watkiss wrote: From: Jo Watkiss Subject: RE: Book file >

Book file > PDF problem

2008-12-11 Thread Combs, Richard
Jo Watkiss wrote: > I had a look in the Frame print dialogue but can't see an option to print a > single file or separate files - maybe this is something introduced later > than Frame 6.0? FM7.2 has a Print Book As setting, and you can choose Single Print Job or Separate Print Job for Each

Cross references without active hyperlinks in PDF files

2008-12-11 Thread Doug
Hello: Is there a way to define a cross-reference format such that this cross reference does not generate an active hyperlink in a PDF file? I use cross references as a convenient way to reuse content from a single location. I've defined these cross references to show up in black text whereas

Cross references without active hyperlinks in PDF files

2008-12-11 Thread Lin Sims
Three options for repeating text: 1. You can have more than one text inset in a file so long as you put each one in its own uniquely named flow. 2. If you like the idea of variables, why not add them to the template file you use to create new documents? No reimporting needed. 3. Get the Autotext

Cross references without active hyperlinks in PDF files

2008-12-11 Thread Combs, Richard
Doug wrote: > I use cross references as a convenient way to reuse content from a > single location. I've defined these cross references to show up in > black text whereas the cross references that I want people to link to > are defined to show up in blue text. I figured that readers will then

Book file > PDF problem

2008-12-11 Thread Jo Watkiss
"Bad, bad, bad idea! This means you're generating PostScript specific to that printer and with the limitations of that printer." Agree 100% - its only a work around for now until I get this sorted. "Anyway, if changing to a different printer driver changed your output from separate chapter PDFs

Book file > PDF problem

2008-12-11 Thread Art Campbell
Yes, it's there in FM 7, but Jo is running FM 6. Which is why she needs to use the * to specify discrete files in the Printer dialog's Destination (?) field. Art Art Campbell art.campbell at gmail.com "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52

Book file > PDF problem

2008-12-11 Thread Jo Watkiss
Agreed - Frame 6 is ancient, and I suspect that's why I'm having these problems. Do you know if the FM8 evaluation will sit alongside my FM6 or would I need to roll-back afterwards if necessary? Thanks, Jo -Original Message- From: Art Campbell [mailto:art.campb...@gmail.com] Sent: 11

Book file > PDF problem

2008-12-11 Thread Lea Rush
I know that FM8 sat next to my FM7 install politely. I believe that I installed to a separate directory, but other than that, it was pretty simple. Lea _ Lea Rush Software and Documentation Specialist Astoria-Pacific International PO Box 830 Clackamas OR 97015

Book file > PDF problem

2008-12-11 Thread Art Campbell
It'll co-exist with another FM install just fine. However, I don't think you can back-save from 8 to a 6 compatible MIF format. I think it only supports back-saving to FM 7. But depending on what version of Acrobat you're using, you may have some juggling to do, because 8 installs the current

Book file > PDF problem

2008-12-11 Thread Combs, Richard
Jo Watkiss wrote: > "Anyway, if changing to a different printer driver changed your output > from separate chapter PDFs to a single book PDF, then something's wrong > somewhere." > Yup. > > I suspect the answer is upgrade my FrameMaker. No. Unless you need to for other reasons. When I said

Cross references without active hyperlinks in PDF files

2008-12-11 Thread Rick Quatro
Hi Doug, I recently solved the exact problem for a client using FrameScript. The script does the following: 1) Backs up the book components. 2) Converts the specified cross-reference formats to plain text. 3) Restores the backed up components, thus restoring the cross-references. It all

Re-installing FM 8 onto a new drive ...

2008-12-11 Thread David Creamer
On Syed.Hosain at aeris.net at Syed.Hosain at aeris.net wrote on 12/11/08 7:22 AM: > Curiosity question: I see a number of people keeping FM7.2 on their > systems. Why? Wouldn't it be simpler to go to FM8 and be done with it? I > don't have a need to send .fm or .book files to people, but if I

Book file > PDF problem

2008-12-11 Thread Peter Gold
CAUTION WHEN INSTALLING MULTIPLE VERSIONS OF FRAMEMAKER ON ONE COMPUTER! DO: install each version into its own directory. During installation, check default installation path for each version to be sure of this. NOTE: I can't recall with certainty how every "point" release worked (like 5.0, 5.3,

Re-installing FM 8 onto a new drive ...

2008-12-11 Thread syed.hos...@aeris.net
> I'm an Adobe trainer, so I need both versions depending on which version my client has. I also have InDesign CS2, CS3, and CS4 on my computer too. (The government is usually the last to upgrade...) Ah! Got it ... > > I am not sure I understand this exactly. Do you mean that when you did > > an

ANN: Job seeking

2008-12-11 Thread Jeremy H. Griffith
On Thu, 11 Dec 2008 12:20:51 -0500, "Jon Harvey" wrote: >You've obviously hit upon a business model that works well while making >a lot of un/underemployed people very happy. Yes, it does work well. And that's why we talk about it. We'd like to see other vendors, in this field and others,

Re-installing FM 8 onto a new drive ...

2008-12-11 Thread Jeremy H. Griffith
On Thu, 11 Dec 2008 08:22:26 -0700, wrote: >Curiosity question: I see a number of people keeping FM7.2 on their >systems. Why? Wouldn't it be simpler to go to FM8 and be done with it? I >don't have a need to send .fm or .book files to people, but if I did, I >could save it in FM7.2 format if

Re-installing FM 8 onto a new drive ...

2008-12-11 Thread syed.hos...@aeris.net
> > Curiosity question: I see a number of people keeping FM7.2 on their > > systems. Why? Wouldn't it be simpler to go to FM8 and be done with it? I > > don't have a need to send .fm or .book files to people, but if I did, I > > could save it in FM7.2 format if needed (as far as I recall) from

Book file > PDF problem

2008-12-11 Thread Mike Wickham
> Having recently upgraded to Acrobat 8 (from 5), I now find that I can't > print a book file to a single pdf. When you installed Acrobat 8, did you first uninstall v.5 (and any version of Adobe Reader or the distiller that came with FrameMaker)? Since version 6, Dov Isaacs of Adobe has warned

Re-installing FM 8 onto a new drive ...

2008-12-11 Thread Martinek, Carla
The one compelling reason I had to upgrade to FM8 was unicode support. One of my docs was a multi-lingual safety guide, and each language had to be done separately, PDF'd on localized machines, and then each language had to be assembled into the the final book. This caused problems with some of

TOC in FM8 - different levels ; and a few other questions

2008-12-11 Thread Adriana Harper
Hello, A big thank you to everyone who responded with good ideas on how to search the Archives. They work nicely and I am moving forward! I have a few questions that I hope this great resource can help me with: 1. I am working with Structured FM since I will be doing both print and

Another question re. TOC- Title not showing up when producing TOC

2008-12-11 Thread Adriana Harper
I am also trying to produce a TOC based on several structured files I have put into a book. They consist of Document (highest level element), with Titles, Section, and Head. When I generate my TOC based only on Title, it is blank. When I generate it based on Head, the heads used in the files