Re: Cross-ref formats

2009-08-05 Thread Jeremy H. Griffith
On Wed, 5 Aug 2009 11:23:06 -0400, Art Campbell art.campb...@gmail.com wrote: I believe an option within MIF2Go allows you to automagically impose a template of your choice on a book, so the conversion between multiple output types is transparent. Haven't played with it in a while, though, but I

Cross-ref formats

2009-08-05 Thread Nancy Allison
Hi, all. I should have specified that my Framemaker template will be used to produce both PDFs and compiled help files. After a discussion on techwr-l or possibly this list, I decided to keep figure and table numbers in my online cross-references, but not page numbers. I currently append

Cross-ref formats

2009-08-05 Thread Shmuel Wolfson
I use bold for referencing sections, instead of quotation marks. It makes things much simpler as far where to put the comma, and this style seems to be popular. -- Regards, Shmuel Wolfson Technical Writer 052-763-7133 Nancy Allison wrote: > Once more, this time with content! > > For your

Cross-ref formats

2009-08-05 Thread Art Campbell
I believe an option within MIF2Go allows you to automagically impose a template of your choice on a book, so the conversion between multiple output types is transparent. Haven't played with it in a while, though, but I think it's still there... Art Art Campbell art.campbell at

Cross-ref formats

2009-08-05 Thread Jeremy H. Griffith
On Wed, 5 Aug 2009 11:23:06 -0400, Art Campbell wrote: >I believe an option within MIF2Go allows you to automagically impose a >template of your choice on a book, so the conversion between multiple >output types is transparent. Haven't played with it in a while, >though, but I think it's still

Cross-ref formats

2009-08-04 Thread Nancy Allison
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Cross-ref formats

2009-08-04 Thread Nancy Allison
Once more, this time with content! For your technical manuals, what is your preferred set of cross-reference formats? I'm setting up a template and am trying to figure out a way to avoid having to create multiple x-refs to accommodate different punctuation. You know (x-ref is inside the

Re: Cross-ref formats

2009-08-04 Thread William Abernathy
First, figure out your standard cross-reference style. See Appendix D See Appendix D, Frying Pans and Toasters, See Appendix D, Frying Pans and Toasters, on p. 247 See Frying Pans and Toasters on p. 247 Whatever it's going to be, standardize as much as you can. Think about whether the style you

Re: Cross-ref formats

2009-08-04 Thread Les Smalley
I think you need to have at least formats for referring only to the numbered bit (e.g., Appendix D) as well as the entire title with number (e.g. Appendix D, Frying Pans and Toasters.) The biggest issue with the second format is if the text being cited includes punctuation itself.  My

Re: Cross-ref formats

2009-08-04 Thread Jeremy H. Griffith
On Tue, 04 Aug 2009 13:33:19 -0500 (CDT), Nancy Allison ma...@verizon.net wrote: I'm setting up a template and am trying to figure out a way to avoid having to create multiple x-refs to accommodate different punctuation. . . . What is your solution? Simple; I follow International English

Re: Cross-ref formats

2009-08-04 Thread Peter Gold
On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 1:55 PM, Les Smalleyl_c_smal...@yahoo.com wrote: I think you need to have at least formats for referring only to the numbered bit (e.g., Appendix D) as well as the entire title with number (e.g. Appendix D, Frying Pans and Toasters.) The biggest issue with the second

Re: Cross-ref formats

2009-08-04 Thread Art Campbell
You can also make the punctuation and quotation marks a moot point by italicizing the book title, chapter title, heading, or other object, which would greatly reduce the number of cross-refs that you need. If it was me, I'd think about two templates with identically names cross-ref formats -- one

Re: Cross-ref formats

2009-08-04 Thread Nancy Allison
Some follow-up questions: 1. I've been looking at the Chicago Manual, 15th edition. I'd expect a great honking treatment of this subject, but I'm not seeing it. All the cross-reference i9nformation is presented with reference to indexes and bibliographies. The sections referring to

RE: Cross-ref formats

2009-08-04 Thread David Spreadbury
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Nancy Allison Sent: Tuesday, August 04, 2009 2:52 PM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: Cross-ref formats Some follow-up questions: 1. I've been looking at the Chicago Manual, 15th edition. I'd expect a great honking treatment

Re: Cross-ref formats

2009-08-04 Thread William Abernathy
, I'd think about two templates with identically names cross-ref formats -- one with page numbers and one without, for print/PDF and online output. Then apply the appropriate format depending on the type of output. Art Art Campbell ___ You

RE: Cross-ref formats

2009-08-04 Thread Kelly McDaniel
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Nancy Allison Sent: Tuesday, August 04, 2009 2:52 PM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: Cross-ref formats Some follow-up questions: 1. I've been looking at the Chicago Manual, 15th edition. I'd expect a great honking treatment

RE: Cross-ref formats

2009-08-04 Thread Combs, Richard
Nancy Allison wrote: I'm setting up a template and am trying to figure out a way to avoid having to create multiple x-refs to accommodate different punctuation. You know (x-ref is inside the underscores): ---See __Appendix D, Frying Pans and Toasters,__  for more information. (X-ref

RE: Cross-ref formats

2009-08-04 Thread Mike Feimster
Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Sharon Burton Sent: Tuesday, August 04, 2009 4:18 PM To: 'Nancy Allison'; framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: Cross-ref formats Given that more and more information is being

RE: Cross-ref formats

2009-08-04 Thread Sharon Burton
-Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Sharon Burton Sent: Tuesday, August 04, 2009 4:18 PM To: 'Nancy Allison'; framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: Cross-ref formats Given that more and more information

RE: Cross-ref formats

2009-08-04 Thread Matt Sullivan
Sent: Tuesday, August 04, 2009 1:48 PM To: 'Mike Feimster'; framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: Cross-ref formats Right now she's doing print. But in 6 months? I like to build for this possibility. And I'm lazy and don't want to have to worry about what template is applied and checking

Cross-ref formats

2009-08-04 Thread Nancy Allison
Once more, this time with content! For your?technical manuals, what?is your preferred set of cross-reference formats? I'm setting up a template and am trying to figure out a way to avoid having to create multiple x-refs to accommodate different punctuation. You know (x-ref is inside the

Cross-ref formats

2009-08-04 Thread William Abernathy
First, figure out your standard cross-reference style. See Appendix D See Appendix D, "Frying Pans and Toasters," See Appendix D, "Frying Pans and Toasters," on p. 247 See "Frying Pans and Toasters" on p. 247 Whatever it's going to be, standardize as much as you can. Think about whether the

Cross-ref formats

2009-08-04 Thread Les Smalley
I think you need to have at least formats for referring only to the numbered bit (e.g., Appendix D) as well as the entire title with number (e.g. Appendix D,?"Frying Pans and Toasters.") The biggest issue with the second format is if the text being cited includes punctuation itself.? My

Cross-ref formats

2009-08-04 Thread Jeremy H. Griffith
On Tue, 04 Aug 2009 13:33:19 -0500 (CDT), Nancy Allison wrote: >I'm setting up a template and am trying to figure out a way to >avoid having to create multiple x-refs to accommodate different >punctuation. > . . . >What is your solution? Simple; I follow International English (UK) usage,

Cross-ref formats

2009-08-04 Thread Peter Gold
On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 1:55 PM, Les Smalley wrote: > I think you need to have at least formats for referring only to the numbered > bit (e.g., Appendix D) as well as the entire title with number (e.g. Appendix > D,?"Frying Pans and Toasters.") > > The biggest issue with the second format is if

Cross-ref formats

2009-08-04 Thread Art Campbell
You can also make the punctuation and quotation marks a moot point by italicizing the book title, chapter title, heading, or other object, which would greatly reduce the number of cross-refs that you need. If it was me, I'd think about two templates with identically names cross-ref formats -- one

Cross-ref formats

2009-08-04 Thread David Spreadbury
inal Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Nancy Allison Sent: Tuesday, August 04, 2009 2:52 PM To: framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: Cross-ref formats Some follow-up questions: 1. I've been looking at

Cross-ref formats

2009-08-04 Thread William Abernathy
you need. > > If it was me, I'd think about two templates with identically names > cross-ref formats -- one with page numbers and one without, for > print/PDF and online output. Then apply the appropriate format > depending on the type of output. > > Art > > Art Campbell

Cross-ref formats

2009-08-04 Thread Kelly McDaniel
amers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Nancy Allison Sent: Tuesday, August 04, 2009 2:52 PM To: framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: Cross-ref formats Some follow-up questions: 1. I've been looking at the Chicago Manual, 15th edition. I'd expect a gre

Cross-ref formats

2009-08-04 Thread Sharon Burton
-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Nancy Allison Sent: Tuesday, August 04, 2009 12:52 PM To: framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: Cross-ref formats Some follow-up questions: 1. I've been looking at the Chicago Manual, 15th edition

Cross-ref formats

2009-08-04 Thread Combs, Richard
Nancy Allison wrote: > I'm setting up a template and am trying to figure out a way to avoid having > to create multiple x-refs to accommodate different punctuation. You know > (x-ref is inside the underscores): > > ---See __Appendix D,?"Frying Pans and Toasters,"__? for more information. >

Cross-ref formats

2009-08-04 Thread Mike Feimster
Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Sharon Burton Sent: Tuesday, August 04, 2009 4:18 PM To: 'Nancy Allison'; framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: Cross-ref formats Given that more and more information is being

Cross-ref formats

2009-08-04 Thread Sharon Burton
: Cross-ref formats Considering she's setting up a template for a print document, it makes sense to include the page numbers in the x-ref formats. If she's outputting to a different format, she can create a separate set of x-ref definitions in the tool she is using to create her other output

Cross-ref formats

2009-08-04 Thread Matt Sullivan
at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Sharon Burton Sent: Tuesday, August 04, 2009 1:48 PM To: 'Mike Feimster'; framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: Cross-ref formats Right now she's doing print. But in 6 months? I like to build for this possibility. And I'm lazy and don't want to have to w