At 16:53 -0700 4/4/13, Matt Sullivan wrote:
>For anyone who has access to Macintosh software, PDF creation is native on the
>last few Mac OS.
This is true, but by Apple's own admission the Quartz PDF renderer (or whatever
they call it) doesn't product publication-quality PDF. If you need PDFX
If any of you guys use Live Cycle Designer like I do to make dynamic forms, you
won't get that with any PDF Creator, only with Acrobat Pro. (Just sayin')
-Gillian
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On 2013-Apr-03 11:44 AM, Robert Lauriston wrote:
I virtually never edit the PDFs I generate myself, but I sometimes
use Acrobat to extract and combine pages from various PDFs,
consolidate comments from multiple copies of a PDF, and OCR scanned
documents.
On Wed, Apr 3, 2013 at 8:40 AM, Syed
I apologize if this is off topic, but here is a list of Acrobat
alternatives. (Please feel free to send me corrections or updates.)
Free:
- A free plug-in is available for Word 2007; comes with 2010
- Bullzip PDF Printer
- PDF995
- PrimoPDF
- CutePDF
For anyone who has access to Macintosh software, PDF creation is native on the last few Mac OS.
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On Apr 4, 2013, at
The key question to ask about these is do they support pdfMark PostScript
commands. This is the technology that FrameMaker uses to get bookmarks,
links, etc. in their PDFs. If you can't get these from the other tools, it
would be a serious limitation in my opinion.
Rick Quatro
Carmen Publishing
Thanks, Rick! That is good input.
Z
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What about PDF Creator, http://www.pdfforge.org/?
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If any of you guys use Live Cycle Designer like I do to make dynamic forms, you
won't get that with any PDF Creator, only with Acrobat Pro. (Just sayin')
-Gillian
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On 2013-Apr-03 11:44 AM, Robert Lauriston wrote:
> I virtually never edit the PDFs I generate myself, but I sometimes
> use Acrobat to extract and combine pages from various PDFs,
> consolidate comments from multiple copies of a PDF, and OCR scanned
> documents.
>
> On Wed, Apr 3, 2013 at 8:40 AM,
I apologize if this is off topic, but here is a list of Acrobat
alternatives. (Please feel free to send me corrections or updates.)
Free:
- A free plug-in is available for Word 2007; comes with 2010
- Bullzip PDF Printer
- PDF995
- PrimoPDF
- CutePDF
Thanks for the list! It will help me during my evaluations soon. An addition to
your list:
"easyPDF" from BCL Technologies ($29.95)
http://www.pdfonline.com/easypdf/pdf-printer/
And I think, but not sure, that Pdf995 costs ($9.95) to get "without a sponsor
page" ... all their tools cost this,
For anyone who has access to Macintosh software, PDF creation is native on the
last few Mac OS.
-Matt
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The key question to ask about these is do they support pdfMark PostScript
commands. This is the technology that FrameMaker uses to get bookmarks,
links, etc. in their PDFs. If you can't get these from the other tools, it
would be a serious limitation in my opinion.
Rick Quatro
Carmen Publishing
Thanks, Rick! That is good input.
Z
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What about PDF Creator, http://www.pdfforge.org/?
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There is also PDFill PDF Editor, https://www.pdfill.com/pdf_tools_free.html.
Elchanan
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My copy of Acrobat 8 is already paid for and it can do a lot of things
easyPDF can't.
Are you sure you're using the same compression, font embedding, etc.
settings when comparing performance?
On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 9:35 AM, Syed Zaeem Hosain
(syed.hos...@aeris.net) syed.hos...@aeris.net wrote:
My copy of Acrobat 8 is already paid for and it can do a lot of things
easyPDF can't.
Okay. I have not looked at the details in easyPDF yet, but as a fast PDF
generator, I was quite pleased.
But, I also do not do much editing of the PDF output. I use that file as the
way to distribute
I virtually never edit the PDFs I generate myself, but I sometimes use
Acrobat to extract and combine pages from various PDFs, consolidate
comments from multiple copies of a PDF, and OCR scanned documents.
On Wed, Apr 3, 2013 at 8:40 AM, Syed Zaeem Hosain
(syed.hos...@aeris.net)
> My copy of Acrobat 8 is already paid for and it can do a lot of things
> easyPDF can't.
Okay. I have not looked at the details in easyPDF yet, but as a fast PDF
generator, I was quite pleased.
But, I also do not do much editing of the PDF output. I use that file as the
way to distribute
One reason I ditched easyPDF creator and a couple of others is that the
bookmarks I happen to like/use all the time weren't part of the deal. I did
check in with support on a couple of the tools and they said "no, you can
add them later." Not what I wanted to hear!
On Wed, Apr 3, 2013 at 11:40
Thanks for the info!
Sounds like it will be important to do a thorough test to make sure that all
the capabilities I need are there ... in whatever tool I end up going with. I
won't do this test/study for a few more weeks to month probably though.
For now, just the ultra-fast output file
I virtually never edit the PDFs I generate myself, but I sometimes use
Acrobat to extract and combine pages from various PDFs, consolidate
comments from multiple copies of a PDF, and OCR scanned documents.
On Wed, Apr 3, 2013 at 8:40 AM, Syed Zaeem Hosain
(Syed.Hosain at aeris.net) wrote:
> But,
Your point is well-taken. Perhaps, I should instead say that I will stop at
version 11 and not upgrade to any future version of FrameMaker. The upgrade
price was already getting too high for what I need/use from this tool - the
previous upgrades at $199 per year were easier to justify, and I
Nuance has a PDF creation tool that looks pretty good:
http://www.nuance.com/products/pdf-converter-professional/index.htm
Rick Quatro
Carmen Publishing Inc.
585-283-5045
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Hi, Rick.
It is, indeed, one of the products I intend to check more thoroughly soon - I
have an much older version of this (that I used to convert PDF's into Word a
number of years back), so I'd need to check a more recent version, of course.
Of course, this is a bit more than just a PDF
Your point is well-taken. Perhaps, I should instead say that I will stop at
version 11 and not upgrade to any future version of FrameMaker. The upgrade
price was already getting too high for what I need/use from this tool - the
previous upgrades at $199 per year were easier to justify, and I
Nuance has a PDF creation tool that looks pretty good:
http://www.nuance.com/products/pdf-converter-professional/index.htm
Rick Quatro
Carmen Publishing Inc.
585-283-5045
rick at frameexpert.com
Hi, Rick.
It is, indeed, one of the products I intend to check more thoroughly soon - I
have an much older version of this (that I used to convert PDF's into Word a
number of years back), so I'd need to check a more recent version, of course.
Of course, this is a bit more than just a PDF
My copy of Acrobat 8 is already paid for and it can do a lot of things
easyPDF can't.
Are you sure you're using the same compression, font embedding, etc.
settings when comparing performance?
On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 9:35 AM, Syed Zaeem Hosain
(Syed.Hosain at aeris.net) wrote:
> For example, with
Hi, Kapil.
Okay, I just got off the phone with somebody in the FrameMaker team. Her
statement to me was that the Update Plan for FrameMaker is indeed either dead,
or essentially not available anymore to anybody who has less than 10,000 points
in the Adobe systems.
The bottom line: all users
Syed -
I've been using Frame since 1991 (Frame 2.0.)
We've been evaluating MadCap Flare and were ready to switch, but when we looked
at FM11 and the new multi-HTML output that appears to be as easy as Flare, it
made us stop and take another look. We don't know which way we're going yet..
back
File Publish. It may only be active if you have the TCS4 suite installed. I'm
no expert on this by any means... this is just a couple days of playing around
with the trial version and seeing what happens.
Shocked me at how simple it was to publish from unstructured Frame. Yes, it
starts using
Question: MacCap's site lists upgrades as 'starting at $499' -- we'd
love to find a more cost-effective alternative to FrameMaker. The v9
v11 $600 upgrade was a real kick in the pants to start seriously
evaluating the cost of continuing to absorb FM's high upgrade fees vs
the cost of
I believe the Publish command comes with TCS, but when I played with
it the workflow seemed wrong.
The simple workflow where you just create a RoboHelp project and link
to (rather than import) FrameMaker source is not documented very well,
if at all. I created a cheat sheet for my own future
Why pay anything to upgrade FrameMaker? Adobe hasn't added any
features that I'd pay for since FM8 added Unicode support. I never do
anything new with it so I never need support.
What requirements do you have that FM9's not meeting?
On Mon, Apr 1, 2013 at 12:02 PM, Tori Muir
We had a client that wanted line numbers in a document, a new feature in
v11. We would not have upgraded otherwise. It was literally a 'if Frame
can't number the lines, we put this back into Word' situation -- for a
400 page specification document. I cannot imagine the pain of trying to
Hi, Tori,
Your observation of top dollar for minimal improvement sounds right to me,
unfortunately! I also only use Unstructured FrameMaker at this time, btw.
Here is what I have spent on upgrading FrameMaker in the recent past few years
(I did _not_ bother to include the upgrades _prior_ to
Hi, Kapil.
Okay, I just got off the phone with somebody "in the FrameMaker team". Her
statement to me was that the Update Plan for FrameMaker is indeed either dead,
or essentially not available anymore to anybody who has less than 10,000 points
in the Adobe systems.
The bottom line: all users
Syed -
I've been using Frame since 1991 (Frame 2.0.)
We've been evaluating MadCap Flare and were ready to switch, but when we looked
at FM11 and the new multi-HTML output that appears to be as easy as Flare, it
made us stop and take another look. We don't know which way we're going yet..
back
File > Publish. It may only be active if you have the TCS4 suite installed. I'm
no expert on this by any means... this is just a couple days of playing around
with the trial version and seeing what happens.
Shocked me at how simple it was to publish from unstructured Frame. Yes, it
starts
Question: MacCap's site lists upgrades as 'starting at $499' -- we'd
love to find a more cost-effective alternative to FrameMaker. The v9 >
v11 $600 upgrade was a real kick in the pants to start seriously
evaluating the cost of continuing to absorb FM's high upgrade fees vs
the cost of
I believe the Publish command comes with TCS, but when I played with
it the workflow seemed wrong.
The simple workflow where you just create a RoboHelp project and link
to (rather than import) FrameMaker source is not documented very well,
if at all. I created a cheat sheet for my own future
Why pay anything to upgrade FrameMaker? Adobe hasn't added any
features that I'd pay for since FM8 added Unicode support. I never do
anything new with it so I never need support.
What requirements do you have that FM9's not meeting?
On Mon, Apr 1, 2013 at 12:02 PM, Tori Muir
wrote:
> Question:
We had a client that wanted line numbers in a document, a new feature in
v11. We would not have upgraded otherwise. It was literally a 'if Frame
can't number the lines, we put this back into Word' situation -- for a
400 page specification document. I cannot imagine the pain of trying to
Hi, Tori,
Your observation of "top dollar for minimal improvement" sounds right to me,
unfortunately! I also only use Unstructured FrameMaker at this time, btw.
Here is what I have spent on upgrading FrameMaker in the recent past few years
(I did _not_ bother to include the upgrades _prior_ to
Why do you feel a need to stop using FrameMaker just because you don't
want to send Adobe any more money?
I own a number of old Adobe apps that still work fine. I use Photoshop
5 and Acrobat 8 all the time. I still have FrameMaker 6 and
Illustrator 7, though haven't had reason to install them on
Thanks for the response, Kapil.
Yes, I would like to get information - the last time, I bought a 2 year Update
Plan directly at the Adobe web site (may have been the Adobe store?) in May of
2011, but cannot find that link on the site anymore.
Please do let me know who I can speak to about this
Hi Syed,
This is Kapil Verma, Adobe Tech Comm Product Manager. Unfortunately, you have
been given wrong information. We continue to offer upgrade plans for both
FrameMaker and Acrobat. If you are interested in purchasing/renewing, I will be
more than happy to put you in touch with the right
Thanks for the response, Kapil.
Yes, I would like to get information - the last time, I bought a 2 year Update
Plan directly at the Adobe web site (may have been the Adobe store?) in May of
2011, but cannot find that link on the site anymore.
Please do let me know who I can speak to about this
Hi Syed,
This is Kapil Verma, Adobe Tech Comm Product Manager. Unfortunately, you have
been given wrong information. We continue to offer upgrade plans for both
FrameMaker and Acrobat. If you are interested in purchasing/renewing, I will be
more than happy to put you in touch with the right
Hi Syed,
Can you share us your contact details and preferred time to contact.
We will call you to discuss it out.
Thanks,
Anjaneai
On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 10:58 PM, Syed Zaeem Hosain (Syed.Hosain at aeris.net)
wrote:
> > You can still buy an upgrade to FrameMaker 11 on adobe.com. Maybe
>
You can still buy an upgrade to FrameMaker 11 on adobe.com. Maybe they'll
discontinue that in favor of TCS for the next release?
I'm not sure I've had any reason to call support about FM10, so the lack of
support isn't an issue.
Hi, Robert.
I already have FrameMaker version 11. Actually,
You can still buy an upgrade to FrameMaker 11 on adobe.com. Maybe
they'll discontinue that in favor of TCS for the next release?
I'm not sure I've had any reason to call support about FM10, so the
lack of support isn't an issue.
On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 6:00 PM, Syed Zaeem Hosain
Hi Syed,
Can you share us your contact details and preferred time to contact.
We will call you to discuss it out.
Thanks,
Anjaneai
On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 10:58 PM, Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net)
syed.hos...@aeris.net wrote:
You can still buy an upgrade to FrameMaker 11 on
> You can still buy an upgrade to FrameMaker 11 on adobe.com. Maybe they'll
> discontinue that in favor of TCS for the next release?
> I'm not sure I've had any reason to call support about FM10, so the lack of
> support isn't an issue.
Hi, Robert.
I already have FrameMaker version 11.
You can still buy an upgrade to FrameMaker 11 on adobe.com. Maybe
they'll discontinue that in favor of TCS for the next release?
I'm not sure I've had any reason to call support about FM10, so the
lack of support isn't an issue.
On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 6:00 PM, Syed Zaeem Hosain
(Syed.Hosain at
Hi, all.
For some reason, I am unable to find the link and information for renewing my
maintenance for FrameMaker and Acrobat at the Adobe.com web site.
Maybe I am overlooking something obvious, but if anybody (Adobe personnel or
otherwise) can send me a URL to go to, I'd greatly appreciate
Not sure on the browser issue…I use Safari to access, and no problems there.You should be able to track down a phone number there, and I've found their support to be quite good. (Please, no groaning about other TS departments!!!)
-MattMatt R. Sullivanco-authorPublishing Fundamentals: Unstructured
Here's the web page I was directed to…http://helpx.adobe.com/x-productkb/policy-pricing/avl-help.html
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On Mar 21,
Thanks, Matt.
I went to that URL and logged in, etc. I can see all my old purchases,
renewals, notices, upgrade info, etc., but still cannot find any link to where
I can renew!
Time to chat with them, I guess!
Thanks again,
Z
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If the problem you are having is the license expired bug this web page
will provide the patch to correct the problem.
http://helpx.adobe.com/framemaker/kb/cant-launch-framemaker-10.html
Ed
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Here's the web page I
I had to phone them.
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Um, no. Not the license expired message – this request has to do with
maintenance renewal for updates.
Thanks anyway,
Z
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Robert Lauriston wrote:
I had to phone them.
Ok-a-a-y ... I am confused now. I just spoke with an Adobe sales rep who claims
that they are no longer offering the Upgrade Plan for Acrobat and FrameMaker
... huhn!?!?
Even though, Adobe sent me an e-mail in late January reminding me that my
Eek!My plan is for the TCS, so I don't know what they've done with the individual plans.I do know that they stopped selling new maintenance for FM as a point product.-MattMatt R. Sullivanco-authorPublishing Fundamentals: Unstructured FrameMaker 11P:714.960.6840 |C:714.585.2335
The confusing part is that they sent me an e-mail in January - just 6 to 8
weeks ago - saying that it was getting close to the time to renew!!! I have
individual plans for FrameMaker and Acrobat - both expiring in May. :(
Z
From: Matt Sullivan [mailto:m...@mattrsullivan.com]
Sent: Thursday,
Hi, all.
For some reason, I am unable to find the link and information for renewing my
maintenance for FrameMaker and Acrobat at the Adobe.com web site.
Maybe I am overlooking something obvious, but if anybody (Adobe personnel or
otherwise) can send me a URL to go to, I'd greatly appreciate
Hi Z,
Can you contact the vendor you used to purchase the contract?
I get notices from Adobe directly to update the contract?did you get the same?
Did you log into licensing.adobe.com?
-Matt
Matt R. Sullivan
co-author Publishing Fundamentals: Unstructured FrameMaker 11
P: 714.960.6840 | C:
Thanks, Matt.
The last time I did this, I bought it at the Adobe web site (no vendors
involved) ...
I did, indeed, go to licensing.adobe.com and log in, but for some reason, I
cannot find the link to get to the renewal page for paying for it, etc.
Could it be a stupid browser issue? Meaning
Not sure on the browser issue?I use Safari to access, and no problems there.
You should be able to track down a phone number there, and I've found their
support to be quite good. (Please, no groaning about other TS departments!!!)
-Matt
Matt R. Sullivan
co-author Publishing Fundamentals:
Here's the web page I was directed to?
http://helpx.adobe.com/x-productkb/policy-pricing/avl-help.html
-Matt
Matt R. Sullivan
co-author Publishing Fundamentals: Unstructured FrameMaker 11
P: 714.960.6840 | C: 714.585.2335 | matt at mattrsullivan.com
@mattrsullivan LinkedIn facebook
If the problem you are having is the "license" expired" bug this web page
will provide the patch to correct the problem.
http://helpx.adobe.com/framemaker/kb/cant-launch-framemaker-10.html
Ed
On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 11:28 AM, Matt Sullivan wrote:
> Here's the web page I was directed to?
>
I had to phone them.
Um, no. Not the license expired message ? this request has to do with
maintenance renewal for updates.
Thanks anyway,
Z
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[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Ed Nodland
Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2013 11:39 AM
Cc: framers at
Robert Lauriston wrote:
> I had to phone them.
Ok-a-a-y ... I am confused now. I just spoke with an Adobe sales rep who claims
that they are no longer offering the Upgrade Plan for Acrobat and FrameMaker
... huhn!?!?
Even though, Adobe sent me an e-mail in late January reminding me that my
Eek!
My plan is for the TCS, so I don't know what they've done with the individual
plans.
I do know that they stopped selling new maintenance for FM as a point product.
-Matt
Matt R. Sullivan
co-author Publishing Fundamentals: Unstructured FrameMaker 11
P: 714.960.6840 | C: 714.585.2335 |
The confusing part is that they sent me an e-mail in January - just 6 to 8
weeks ago - saying that it was getting close to the time to renew!!! I have
individual plans for FrameMaker and Acrobat - both expiring in May. :(
Z
From: Matt Sullivan [mailto:m...@mattrsullivan.com]
Sent: Thursday,
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