Re: Those old book numbering blues

2005-12-16 Thread Steve Rickaby
I said... I am using one autonumber thread to control stuff that needs to flow through a book. I just wanted to check that in this case, i.e. paragraph number threads not reset between chapters, there is no alternative to creating a separate n=0 paragraph clone for all the numbered paragraphs.

Re: Migrating EDDs

2005-12-16 Thread Steve Rickaby
At 8:32 am -0500 16/12/05, Rick Quatro wrote: No apologies necessary: that is what the list is for. Well, it's actually for complaints, gripes, etc., but FrameMaker questions are acceptable once in awhile. Many thanks. And much appreciated it is too. The best method depends on how different

Numbering question on short books that are single files

2005-12-16 Thread Robert Kern
All, I have a very short book (about 180 pages) that is multiple chapters but is currently a single Frame file. I'd like to keep it as a single file, but am uncertain how to apply chapter-like chapter/figure/table numbering and page numbering if things are in a single file. How would I go

Re: Numbering question on short books that are single files

2005-12-16 Thread Steve Rickaby
At 12:55 pm -0500 16/12/05, Robert Kern wrote: I have a very short book (about 180 pages) that is multiple chapters but is currently a single Frame file. I'd like to keep it as a single file, but am uncertain how to apply chapter-like chapter/figure/table numbering and page numbering if things

RE: Apply Default Attribute Values

2005-12-16 Thread Spreadbury, David
Rick, I thought you could do this in the EDD, and you can, but it might depend on the type of attribute. Search the Structure_Dev_Guide for default attribute. I only got seven hits. Most of the hits are concerned with the DTD, but there is a comment that keeps popping up In FrameMaker, a default

RE: Apply Default Attribute Values

2005-12-16 Thread Spreadbury, David
Rick, I thought you could do this in the EDD, and you can, but it might depend on the type of attribute. Search the Structure_Dev_Guide for default attribute. I only got seven hits. Most of the hits are concerned with the DTD, but there is a comment that keeps popping up In FrameMaker, a default

RE: Numbering question on short books that are single files

2005-12-16 Thread Ridder, Fred
No slick trick that I'm aware of, Bob. If you need to change numbering format (roman vs. arabic vs. alpha), you need to have a file break at that point. If you're using the $chapnum (and/or $volnum) system variable, you must have a file break wherever that number needs to increment. You can

Copying master page layouts and graphics

2005-12-16 Thread Stacie Knas
I have a structured book with about 10 chapters. I want the first page of each chapter to use master page first. I have created this master page in the first chapter, as well as finessed that chapter's right- and left-hand pages. Is there a way besides manually copying to apply these pages to

RE: Numbering question on short books that are single files

2005-12-16 Thread Combs, Richard
Robert Kern wrote: I have a very short book (about 180 pages) that is multiple chapters but is currently a single Frame file. I'd like to keep it as a single file, but am uncertain how to apply chapter-like chapter/figure/table numbering and page numbering if things are in a single

RE: Numbering question on short books that are single files

2005-12-16 Thread Kay Ethier, Sales
Hi Bob: You don't have to break the book into separate chapters for chapter/appendix/figure/table numbering. That can be handled by setting up the paragraph formats to work together. Some examples are online at http://www.travelthepath.com/autonum.html . The only have to reason for breaking

RE: Copying master page layouts and graphics

2005-12-16 Thread Lester C. Smalley
Stacie, If I read your message correctly, you have copied the updated master pages from one file to the rest by selecting the other chapters in the book window and then using the File Import Formats dialog to copy the Page Layouts to all the other files. But what is not happening is having the

Re: Apply Default Attribute Values

2005-12-16 Thread Scott Prentice
You can define a default value for an attribute, but as far as I know the process of importing an EDD won't change an attribute value from one thing to another. The default value is just the value of the attribute if it has no other value applied. I guess the question is, in the statement ..

Re: Apply Default Attribute Values

2005-12-16 Thread Scott Prentice
Hi Rick... You're right .. these default values that you can define in the EDD, are not as useful as one might hope. They aren't exported to XML and they don't seem to have much purpose. However, the FDK (and I believe the EDD itself) can read the default as a value. So a plugin or

Those old book numbering blues

2005-12-16 Thread hedley.fin...@myob.com
Steve: > I am using one autonumber thread to control stuff that needs to flow > through a book. I just wanted to check that in this case, i.e. > paragraph number threads not reset between chapters, there is no > alternative to creating a separate

Those old book numbering blues

2005-12-16 Thread Steve Rickaby
I said... >I am using one autonumber thread to control stuff that needs to flow through a >book. I just wanted to check that in this case, i.e. paragraph number threads >not reset between chapters, there is no alternative to creating a separate

Those old book numbering blues

2005-12-16 Thread Steve Rickaby
At 8:57 am +1100 16/12/05, hedley.finger at myob.com wrote: >Then set your chapter title numbering as follows: > >Chapter\ <$chapnum>< >< =0>< =0>< =0>< =0>< =0> > >The < > placeholder after <$chapnum> is the one you want to continue >through the book. The < =0> resetters are for the

Framemaker to Apple's Pages

2005-12-16 Thread Shlomo Perets
Paul Findon wrote: > ... Apple is still using FrameMaker 6.0 in the Classic environment to > produce its own user guides That's true -- apparently using a template with multiple flows that cause bookmark ordering problems (see http://microtype.com/hmmms.html#0504 which refers to the

Apply Default Attribute Values

2005-12-16 Thread Rick Quatro
Hello Framers, I have a client that wants to know if it is possible to "set all attributes to default values when the EDD is imported". I suspect that the answer is no, but I am pretty sure that it can be done with a FrameScript script. However, I don't want to propose a script if it can be

Migrating EDDs

2005-12-16 Thread Steve Rickaby
Group: my apologies for hitting the list so hard just recently. I'm under pressure to complete some work before the holiday break and it's taking me into unknown territory. I know that FrameMaker supports conversion rules tables for converting unstructured documents into structured. But what

Migrating EDDs

2005-12-16 Thread Steve Rickaby
At 8:32 am -0500 16/12/05, Rick Quatro wrote: >No apologies necessary: that is what the list is for. Well, it's actually for >complaints, gripes, etc., but FrameMaker questions are acceptable once in >awhile. Many thanks. And much appreciated it is too. >The best method depends on how

Migrating EDDs

2005-12-16 Thread Rick Quatro
Hi Steve, No apologies necessary: that is what the list is for. Well, it's actually for complaints, gripes, etc., but FrameMaker questions are acceptable once in awhile. The best method depends on how different the structure is from one EDD to another. Here are some possible methods. 1)

Numbering question on short books that are single files

2005-12-16 Thread Robert Kern
All, I have a very short book (about 180 pages) that is multiple chapters but is currently a single Frame file. I'd like to keep it as a single file, but am uncertain how to apply chapter-like chapter/figure/table numbering and page numbering if things are in a single file. How would I go

Numbering question on short books that are single files

2005-12-16 Thread Steve Rickaby
At 12:55 pm -0500 16/12/05, Robert Kern wrote: >I have a very short book (about 180 pages) that is multiple chapters but is >currently a single Frame file. I'd like to keep it as a single file, but am >uncertain how to apply chapter-like chapter/figure/table numbering and page >numbering if

Numbering question on short books that are single files

2005-12-16 Thread Art Campbell
As you point out, "the only good answer is to break the book into separate chapters." If you don't want to take an hour or so to do that, you could probably spend a day or so kludging work-arounds to solve the problems you want to solve. For instance, you could substitute a hand-crafted numbering

Apply Default Attribute Values

2005-12-16 Thread Spreadbury, David
Rick, I thought you could do this in the EDD, and you can, but it might depend on the type of attribute. Search the Structure_Dev_Guide for default attribute. I only got seven hits. Most of the hits are concerned with the DTD, but there is a comment that keeps popping up "In FrameMaker, a default

Apply Default Attribute Values

2005-12-16 Thread Spreadbury, David
Rick, I thought you could do this in the EDD, and you can, but it might depend on the type of attribute. Search the Structure_Dev_Guide for default attribute. I only got seven hits. Most of the hits are concerned with the DTD, but there is a comment that keeps popping up "In FrameMaker, a default

Numbering question on short books that are single files

2005-12-16 Thread Ridder, Fred
No slick trick that I'm aware of, Bob. If you need to change numbering format (roman vs. arabic vs. alpha), you need to have a file break at that point. If you're using the $chapnum (and/or $volnum) system variable, you must have a file break wherever that number needs to increment. You can

Copying master page layouts and graphics

2005-12-16 Thread Stacie Knas
I have a structured book with about 10 chapters. I want the first page of each chapter to use master page "first". I have created this master page in the first chapter, as well as finessed that chapter's right- and left-hand pages. Is there a way besides manually copying to apply these pages to

Numbering question on short books that are single files

2005-12-16 Thread Combs, Richard
Robert Kern wrote: > I have a very short book (about 180 pages) that is multiple > chapters but is currently a single Frame file. I'd like to > keep it as a single file, but am uncertain how to apply > chapter-like chapter/figure/table numbering and page > numbering if things are in a

Numbering question on short books that are single files

2005-12-16 Thread Kay Ethier, Sales
Hi Bob: You don't have to break the book into separate chapters for chapter/appendix/figure/table numbering. That can be handled by setting up the paragraph formats to work together. Some examples are online at http://www.travelthepath.com/autonum.html . The only "have to" reason for breaking

Copying master page layouts and graphics

2005-12-16 Thread Art Campbell
Select all files in the book but your first chapter and use File > Import Formats. Select page layouts (and whatever else you want to import) and go for it. That gets the master pages into each chapter file. However, if the recipient pages have not been set up to use "first," after the import,

Apply Default Attribute Values

2005-12-16 Thread Scott Prentice
You can define a default value for an attribute, but as far as I know the process of importing an EDD won't change an attribute value from one thing to another. The "default" value is just the value of the attribute if it has no other value applied. I guess the question is, in the statement ..

Apply Default Attribute Values

2005-12-16 Thread Scott Prentice
Hi Rick... You're right .. these "default" values that you can define in the EDD, are not as useful as one might hope. They aren't exported to XML and they don't seem to have much purpose. However, the FDK (and I believe the EDD itself) can read the default as a value. So a plugin or