In documents that will endure and need to be updated, its always via
character styles
In throw-away docs (e.g. one-time memo, fax cover page...) I use both
named styles and ad hoc formatting: Control-B, Control-I, etc.,
depending on what is set up in the template.
In structured docs there are
I'm with Bill here, and it looks like 99% of the pollsters.
Character catalog. ALWAYS, and FOREVER.
From the beginning of FM use, I've been told by too many Framers that the
B and I buttons, or Ctrl B and Ctrl I (aka, inline styles) can really
mess you up in ways you don't ever want to know
John Wilcox wrote:
This came up as a possible style standards issue here. Please
reply off-list, and I'll summarize the results next week.
Thanks for your time!
A. Click the B and I buttons, or press Ctrl+B and Ctrl+I.
B. Select Bold and Emphasis from the Character Catalog.
Well,
If you're in charge of template compliance, and especially if you're a
tech pubs manager, you might want to learn how to customize the FM
interface -- it's much easier to avoid overrides and ad hoc formatting
if the tools for creating them simply aren't there. :-)
Being a manager and until
Fred, while I can't get into a disagreement over which is the weakest
PDF tool because I intentionally don't go down that path, any printer
driver that uses Adobe PostScript as its engine will generate a PS
file that works (usually works very well) with Distiller. That's the
way Adobe attempts to
I favor the idea that quality starts with designing the process to avoid
mistakes.
If we agree that formatting standards for documents produce quality
documents, then logically we should set up our tools so that those
standards are the only possible way to format. I haven't yet seen an
instance
Bill Swallow wrote:
Being a manager and until recently a template
owner, I completely disagree. UI tweaks passively
hinder
misuse. Proper training and education for writers
actively
prevents misuse, and even initiates their own
investigation
into other ways to prevent needless headaches in
I favor the idea that quality starts with designing the process to avoid
mistakes.
What a silly notion! ;-) LOL!!!
I totally agree with you, Joe.
If we agree that formatting standards for documents produce quality
documents, then logically we should set up our tools so that those
standards
Put your cursor in a paragraph tagged as Bullet 1.
In the paragraph designer, pull down the Commands menu, select Global
Update Options. In the upper pane, select all, in the lower, pull
down the All Tagged menu and select Bullet.
Art
On 1/17/06, Doug [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Is there a
Hi!
I received a reply that suggested using Arabic numerals throughout
rather than worrying about different schemes. Being a relative newcomer,
I have clung to the Chicago Manual of Style (CMS) way like a drowning
man to a life raft. Thinking about it now, I see that numbering front
matter in
I think your variable/standard_file_name strategy will work fine so
long as all the versions for all the vendors are the same. As soon as
somebody adds or drops a feature, you'll probably have to go to
conditional text to control the differeing content in the chapter.
Art
On 1/17/06, Deb Hardy
And I'm a perfect example of this. As I wrote, when I started using
Frame, I was told in no uncertain terms to stay the heck away from the
toolbar. Fearing the wrath of the production guru, I complied. ;)
In conclusion, if you are a manager, don't fix the interface, simply
intimidate your
At 11:22 am -0800 17/1/06, Deb Hardy wrote:
Do both of these approaches seem reasonable and optimal? I'm particularly
concerned about the logo-replacement issue.
Deb - what you suggest sounds sensible: others might be able to suggest extra
tricks. One thing you'll need to watch on the
This is becoming way too many inbound emails for me.
I hate to leave this discussion group, but Outlook filters don't seem to
work because of the way the listserve functions. Any words of advice? If
not, can someone please tell me how to unsubscribe?
Thanks,
Stacy
-Original Message-
That's basically what I do here.
In addition, I:
1. Make sure that any screen captures are either generic in the first
place
(watch those file trees!) or are cleaned up before you ship them to
your OEM.
2. Include a generated list of images for reference.
3. For maintainance releases,
Hello. I'm hoping someone on this list either has experienced this
problem or knows something about it. I recently installed Acrobat 7 (and
upgrade to 7.05) and was loving it until I opened Word 2000--when I did,
Word gave me an application error message (The memory could not be
'read'.).
One reason is to adjust text pagination, for final revision.
Overriding keep-with, widow/orphan, start-position, and some other
properties of paragraph formats may be necessary. However, it's easy
to manage or restore original formatting by one or more of these
methods:
Trust me... if you
I'm not sure I'd call this the ultimate redefinition solution because
it completely ignores the fact that there should be some underlying
*reason* why you need to present a word or phrase in boldface (or
italic or whatever). A large segment of the people responding to the
original survey
Hello framers,
We'd like to hire a contract technical writer for six to eight weeks,
with a start date in the next two business weeks and an end date in
March (when the project is scheduled to conclude).
I'm looking for a senior-level writer who can work on site here in our
Seattle office.
I rebrand our docset for a partner much the way described by Deb, with
some of Grant's ideas. The main difference is that I do the rebranding
myself rather than send source files to the partner (which has no tech
writer resource). It is likely that this year will see at least one
additional
Ditto, we use "C". But we've managed to end up with a format named "Bold" too.
We use that when we want to make something bold and one of the named formats
doesn't apply. ;-(
Using character formats isn't necessarily foolproof. Last week, someone
accidentally updated one of our formats and
Cripes! Rick must be a bigger mover and shaker than I thought. What with
".frameexpert" being a top-level domain up there with "uk", "au", "cn",
"de", "fr", etc!
http://www.frameexpert/plugins/pagelabeler/
--
Hedley Finger
Technical Communications Tools & Processes Specialist
MYOB Australia
In documents that will endure and need to be updated, its always via
character styles
In "throw-away" docs (e.g. one-time memo, fax cover page...) I use both
named styles and ad hoc formatting: Control-B, Control-I, etc.,
depending on what is set up in the template.
In structured docs there are
I'm with Bill here, and it looks like 99% of the pollsters.
Character catalog. ALWAYS, and FOREVER.
> Maybe we could start a new thread, "the horrors of FM inline styles, and how
> I survived the experience." ;-)
>
> Might be fun, eh?
Might be. ;-)
Horrors:
* inability to globally update a document from a template (let's say
you need to change style based on rebranding)
* inability to get
John Wilcox wrote:
> This came up as a possible style standards issue here. Please
> reply off-list, and I'll summarize the results next week.
> Thanks for your time!
>
> A. Click the B and I buttons, or press Ctrl+B and Ctrl+I.
> B. Select Bold and Emphasis from the Character Catalog.
Well,
At 9:25 am -0700 17/1/06, Combs, Richard wrote:
>If you're in charge of template compliance, and especially if you're a
>tech pubs manager, you might want to learn how to customize the FM
>interface -- it's much easier to avoid overrides and ad hoc formatting
...and Silicon Prairie's Paragraph
> If you're in charge of template compliance, and especially if you're a
> tech pubs manager, you might want to learn how to customize the FM
> interface -- it's much easier to avoid overrides and ad hoc formatting
> if the tools for creating them simply aren't there. :-)
Being a manager and
Bra-vo!
-Original Message-
I've redefined over 60 shortcuts so they open a catalog instead of
creating an override.
Bill Swallow wrote:
> Being a manager and until recently a template owner, I
> completely disagree. UI tweaks passively hinder misuse.
> Proper training and education for writers actively prevents
> misuse, and even initiates their own investigation into other
> ways to prevent needless
Fred, while I can't get into a disagreement over which is the weakest
PDF tool because I intentionally don't go down that path, any printer
driver that uses Adobe PostScript as its engine will generate a PS
file that works (usually works very well) with Distiller. That's the
way Adobe attempts to
I favor the idea that quality starts with designing the process to avoid
mistakes.
If we agree that formatting standards for documents produce quality
documents, then logically we should set up our tools so that those
standards are the only possible way to format. I haven't yet seen an
instance
> Bill Swallow wrote:
> > Being a manager and until recently a template
> owner, I completely disagree. UI tweaks passively
hinder
> misuse. Proper training and education for writers
actively
> prevents misuse, and even initiates their own
investigation
> into other ways to prevent needless
> I favor the idea that quality starts with designing the process to avoid
> mistakes.
What a silly notion! ;-) LOL!!!
I totally agree with you, Joe.
> If we agree that formatting standards for documents produce quality
> documents, then logically we should set up our tools so that those
>
Is there a Replace Formats script for FrameScript that works basically
like the Word Find/Replace function?
I'm trying to replace Bullet format with Bullet 1 format, but the
Find/Change function finds existing instances of Bullet 1, Bullet 2,
and Bullet 3, in addition to instances of Bullet.
Put your cursor in a paragraph tagged as Bullet 1.
In the paragraph designer, pull down the Commands menu, select Global
Update Options. In the upper pane, select "all," in the lower, pull
down the All Tagged menu and select Bullet.
Art
On 1/17/06, Doug wrote:
> Is there a Replace Formats
Hi!
I received a reply that suggested using Arabic numerals throughout
rather than worrying about different schemes. Being a relative newcomer,
I have clung to the Chicago Manual of Style (CMS) way like a drowning
man to a life raft. Thinking about it now, I see that numbering front
matter in
Bill,
You're singing to the choir dude. ;-)
I planned out a global template for the long term. It's worked well for over
four years and some 100+ manuals so far. What you describe as "The benefits"
are exactly what I'm reaping as a result. It's a beautiful thing! Certainly
worth the little bit
At 11:04 AM 1/17/2006, Joe Malin wrote:
>Why do that now with a book that may never be put to paper? Instead, use
>sequential numbering starting with the Title page as 1. To preserve the
>style of front matter, perhaps use roman numerals, but then allow the
>first page of text to be something
I originally posted this question on Friday, but it
didn't go through. (Switching to plain text now!)
Thanks in advance for any feedback.
Deb Hardy wrote:
For those of you who distribute your source files to
OEM partners, would you be willing to share the basics
of how you prepare your Frame
Bill:
One reason is to adjust text pagination, for final revision.
Overriding keep-with, widow/orphan, start-position, and some other
properties of paragraph formats may be necessary. However, it's easy
to manage or restore original formatting by one or more of these
methods:
* Save a
I think your variable/standard_file_name strategy will work fine so
long as all the versions for all the vendors are the same. As soon as
somebody adds or drops a feature, you'll probably have to go to
conditional text to control the differeing content in the chapter.
Art
On 1/17/06, Deb Hardy
And I'm a perfect example of this. As I wrote, when I started using
Frame, I was told in no uncertain terms to stay the heck away from the
toolbar. Fearing the wrath of the production guru, I complied. ;)
In conclusion, if you are a manager, don't fix the interface, simply
intimidate your
At 11:22 am -0800 17/1/06, Deb Hardy wrote:
>Do both of these approaches seem reasonable and optimal? I'm particularly
>concerned about the logo-replacement issue.
Deb - what you suggest sounds sensible: others might be able to suggest extra
tricks. One thing you'll need to watch on the
This is becoming way too many inbound emails for me.
I hate to leave this discussion group, but Outlook filters don't seem to
work because of the way the listserve functions. Any words of advice? If
not, can someone please tell me how to unsubscribe?
Thanks,
Stacy
-Original Message-
That's basically what I do here.
In addition, I:
1. Make sure that any screen captures are either generic in the first
place
(watch those file trees!) or are "cleaned up" before you ship them to
your OEM.
2. Include a generated list of images for reference.
3. For maintainance releases,
Hello. I'm hoping someone on this list either has experienced this
problem or knows something about it. I recently installed Acrobat 7 (and
upgrade to 7.05) and was loving it until I opened Word 2000--when I did,
Word gave me an application error message ("The memory could not be
'read'.").
> One reason is to adjust text pagination, for final revision.
> Overriding keep-with, widow/orphan, start-position, and some other
> properties of paragraph formats may be necessary. However, it's easy
> to manage or restore original formatting by one or more of these
> methods:
Trust me... if
Now if Ron (of all people) could be intimidated into compliance, then
it *must* work! LOL!!!
Seriously though, you get more mileage from shared knowledge than from
systematic limitations.
On 1/17/06, Ron Miller wrote:
> And I'm a perfect example of this. As I wrote, when I started using
>
> I've redefined over 60 shortcuts so they open a catalog instead
> of creating an override.
Of course, IMO the ultimate redefinition solution is to redefine the
shortcuts so they apply character and/or paragraph formats. What
could be simpler than redefining CTRL+B to apply a bold character
I'm not sure I'd call this the "ultimate redefinition solution" because
it completely ignores the fact that there should be some underlying
*reason* why you need to present a word or phrase in boldface (or
italic or whatever). A large segment of the people responding to the
original survey
Hello framers,
We'd like to hire a contract technical writer for six to eight weeks,
with a start date in the next two business weeks and an end date in
March (when the project is scheduled to conclude).
I'm looking for a senior-level writer who can work on site here in our
Seattle office. If
I rebrand our docset for a partner much the way described by Deb, with
some of Grant's ideas. The main difference is that I do the rebranding
myself rather than send source files to the partner (which has no tech
writer resource). It is likely that this year will see at least one
additional
Note that using roman numerals does not preclude consecutive numbering.
The only change is that the text part of the book no longer starts on
page 1.
Joe Malin
Technical Writer
(408)625-1623
jmalin at tuvox.com
www.tuvox.com
The views expressed in this document are those of the
The practical thing about using roman numbering in front matter, back
matter and generated pages and arabic in the body could be that it may
speed up the process of getting to the actual "contents" of the book
in acting as one more optical aid.
Just my 2 cents...
Bodvar
On 1/17/06, Joe Malin
- Original Message -
From: "Doug"
To:
Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2006 2:57 PM
Subject: Re: POLL: Which method do you use to apply bold and italics?
> I've redefined over 60 shortcuts so they open a catalog instead
> of creating an override.
Of course, IMO the
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