Structured questions

Joel wrote: > Preface: I am trying to learn Structured Frame, XML and DITA - it's > all new to me. Then trying to learn them concurrently with probably result in a poor outcome. You should consider learning XML first, then how FrameMaker is able to deal with XML data, then learn how DITA can b

Bad Autonumbers

I am not quite sure I understand what you are trying to do. It seems to me you are mixing methods. On one hand you are using an autonumbering of a paragraph and on the other hand you want to control it with a system variable for page numbering. That, to my knowledge, cannot be done. This is one of

Structured Frame Primer

Neeraj Jain wrote: > Hi Steve, > > I want to learn structured FM. Can you please provide a > specific link within http://www.scriptorium.com from where I > can study the same? I browsed scriptorium but found paid > resources only. Please help me in learning. Steve said, "I used the Scriptor

Bad Autonumbers

randall.reed at forceprotection.net describes the following issue: > > Unstructured Frame 7.2 on XP V2002 SP2: I've got 400 files in the book. > I cannot get a "work package number" autonumber to work properly in the > files at the beginning of the book. "P:000" just returns "0001". > I've gone i

Bad Autonumbers

Randall C. Reed wrote: > I cannot get a "work package number" autonumber to work > properly in the files at the beginning of the book. > "P:000" just returns "0001". > I've gone into the document menu on both the book and > individual files and set the "Page" numbering feature to > "Continue."

"Times Font" - fixed in FM 8.0?

Brad Simmons wrote: > Has Adobe finally gotten around to fixing that blasted "Times Font" > problem? You know, the one where FrameMaker looks in vain for > the "Times font", and it will tell you that you don't have it > - even when it's on your PC? There's never been a "Times Font" bug that I'

Bad Autonumbers

richard.combs at Polycom.com wrote: > But the autonumber isn't a page number, it's a paragraph number. You > need to set paragraph numbering to continue. Note, however, that this > affects all paragraph autonumber series; you can't have, for instance, > figure numbers restart while your package nu

Correction: Bad Autonumbers

Ouch! Can you tell I am exhausted??? Replace "page" with "paragraph", please. Does that make any more sense, or am I totally burned out beyond all belief? R. PS: Excellent point: I should have realized that ALL flavors of autonumbers will be treated the same. That doesn't solve my package numbe

Bad Autonumbers

Good point Fred. My craziness is due to the fact that some are working continuously, then another file comes up and BANG, I'm back to 001 again. Not good... Thanks! R. From: Fred Ridder [mailto:docu...@hotmail.com] Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 10:23 AM To:

Bad Autonumbers

Ahh, based on this description, I think you need to look for some rogue paragraph that is formatted with the same numbering series label (P) that you are using in your document, but with some other definition. But because finding such a rogue paragraph can be a real PITA, the easiest solution m

Why am I losing page and column breaks?

Does anyone know why I would lose page and column breaks? Natalie Bircher Technical Writer BackStreet Media Phone: 320-843-4337 Fax: 320-842-4236 Email: natalieb at backstreetmedia.com

Bad Autonumbers

Fred Ridder wrote: > But if you set the properties to "Continue", it *is* possible > to reset a specific paragraph numbering series by formatting > a paragraph with an autonumber formula that explicitly sets > the appropriate counter elements in the series definition to > the desired values.

Why am I losing page and column breaks?

Natalie Bircher wrote: > Does anyone know why I would lose page and column breaks? > In the words of a favourite reference librarian of mine, when speaking to patrons with ill-formed questions: "Could you please be a little more vague?" Natalie!! You are a technical writer. Please provide

Why am I losing page and column breaks?

Just a shot in the dark here, but were your page and column breaks applied via manual overrides (using Special>Page Break), and did you recently re-import your document formats? If so, you blew them away by re-importing the template. Manual overrides are rarely the way to go if you want any kind of

Why am I losing page and column breaks?

Natalie Bircher wrote: > Does anyone know why I would lose page and column breaks? Kinda depends on how they were created (it never hurts to describe the situation in a bit more detail, including software version, etc.). IIRC, there's a Page Break menu item (I don't have it because I've disabl

Why am I losing page and column breaks?

Stuart!! Where do you get off busting my chops? You apparently need more help than the others that have answered my question with the information I gave. I didn't need to give them my OS or FM version to answer this question. Your tone is arrogant and self-serving. You would do better to keep

Why am I losing page and column breaks?

In fairness to Stuart (his "tone" notwithstanding), I didn't attempt to answer the original question because it wasn't clear to me either. Also, if you did receive satisfactory answers from others, please share them with the list. Thanks. Rick Quatro Carmen Publishing 585-659-8267 www.frameexpe

Why am I losing page and column breaks?

On 10/4/07, Rick Quatro wrote: > In fairness to Stuart (his "tone" notwithstanding), I didn't attempt to > answer the original question because it wasn't clear to me either. Same here. The context you provide helps those list volunteers who may be able to help you. Regards, Peter _

Why am I losing page and column breaks?

Wow, I sure missed Stuart's subtext. Disclaimer: I do not know Stuart. With over 36 years in computers and data wrangling, yep, pardner, over 36...since back in the steam-powered days of the big iron... There was not enough information in the original question for me to provide you with a

Why am I losing page and column breaks?

Ditto. Stuart's comment was fair; you can't help much if you don't know the context. I was sorely tempted to hit Reply to the OP and just say "yes." Art On 10/4/07, Rick Quatro wrote: > In fairness to Stuart (his "tone" notwithstanding), I didn't attempt to > answer the original question because

Why am I losing page and column breaks?

Natalie Bircher wrote: > Stuart!! > Where do you get off busting my chops? > > You apparently need more help than the others that have > answered my question with the information I gave. I didn't > need to give them my OS or FM version to answer this question. > > Your tone is arrogant and s

Why am I losing page and column breaks?

First, I apologize for my knee-jerk response...to Stuart and all of you. I really, truly had no idea what type of information you would need to answer such a question. A polite request for that information would have been appropriate, and appreciated. -Original Message- From: Stuart Rog

Why am I losing page and column breaks?

Natalie Bircher wrote: > First, I apologize for my knee-jerk response...to Stuart and all of you. Oh all right then, since we've both apologized, I won't keep to myself after all. (We're in the middle of an election campaign in Ontario, so making promises that won't be kept is the sport-du-jour

Why am I losing page and column breaks?

Natalie Bircher wrote: > Stuart!! > Where do you get off busting my chops? > > You apparently need more help than the others that have answered my question > with the information I gave. I didn't need to give them my OS or FM version > to answer this question. > > Your tone is arrogant and self

A delicate question

I'd check the STC salary survey... stc.org, although it may be in a protected area and you'd have to have a member send you a copy. Art On 10/4/07, Christine Beck wrote: > > I hope this is an appropriate forum for this, but who else do I ask? > > Does anyone know the current going rate (contrac

A delicate question

To figure a contract rate / range, I'd use your salary and add about 1/3 for the bennies that you'll have to pay. Then figure the number of hours you want to work and how many weeks (or the number of days you'll be employed). And that's the number with which you divide the salary sum Art On 1

A delicate question

Better than STC salary survey, which I believe is sadly out of date, check www.salary.com or the US labor department web site. Those numbers seem more accurate. Karen L. Zorn Zorn Technologies, Inc. Mesa, AZ -Original Message- From: framers-bounces+k.zorn=zorntech@lists.frameusers.com

Frame 8 - Acrobat 8 crash

Here is my situation: Windows XP Frame 8 Acrobat Distiller Acrobat 8 Pro I am using a template from the Frame 5 template pack that I modified in Frame 8. I attempt a 'Save As PDF' and Frame immediately crashes - no error, no nothing. Any clues as to what is going on? JW

Structured questions

Thanks (belatedly) very much Kay. On 10/3/07, Sales at Bright Path wrote: > > Hi Joel: > > 1. If you click in a text line, it goes blank because the text lines are > not > attached to structure. Rather than using a text line or text frame, you > should keep everything connected in the structure.

Frame 8 - Acrobat 8 crash

What happens when you print it to the Adobe PDF printer instance? And there are a bunch of templates... is it an individual file, or a book with components, or something else? Have you applied the Acrobat 8.1 upgrade / patch? Art On 10/4/07, Joel wrote: > Here is my situation: > Windows XP > Fra

Frame 8 - Acrobat 8 crash

> Have you applied the Acrobat 8.1 upgrade / patch? In my experience and in the experience of several writers I work with, this is the very culprit. Revert back to Acrobat 8.0. -- Bill Swallow HATT List Owner WWP-Users List Owner Senior Member STC, TechValley Chapter STC Single-Sourcing SIG Mana

Searching for empty paragraphs

Hi all - For years I've used the following wildcat search string to locate empty paragraphs: ^\p (start of line followed by paragraph ending) It stopped working a couple releases ago (I believe in FM 7, maybe earlier). Any suggestions? If this doesn't work in FM, does anyone know a way of g

Searching for empty paragraphs

Hi Pat, How about \P\p Rick Quatro Carmen Publishing 585-659-8267 www.frameexpert.com > Hi all - > > For years I've used the following wildcat search string to locate > empty paragraphs: > > ^\p > (start of line followed by paragraph ending) > > It stopped working a couple releases ago (I b

Searching for empty paragraphs

The problem with that is when you replace it with \p (to get rid of the empty), you lose the paragraph formatting you want to keep unless both paragraphs (the "good" one and the empty one) use the same format. That's what made ^\p such a good solution - you could replace it with nothing. P

Frame 8 - Acrobat 8 crash

Based upon what we know, it is highly unlikely that the Acrobat 8.1 update has anything to do with the problems of "save as PDF" with FrameMaker 8. Problems appear to be in FrameMaker 8. Update for FrameMaker 8 under development now. - Dov > -Original Message- > From: framers-bo

Re: Bad Autonumbers

I am not quite sure I understand what you are trying to do. It seems to me you are mixing methods. On one hand you are using an autonumbering of a paragraph and on the other hand you want to control it with a system variable for page numbering. That, to my knowledge, cannot be done. This is one of

RE: Structured Frame Primer

Neeraj Jain wrote: > Hi Steve, > > I want to learn structured FM. Can you please provide a > specific link within http://www.scriptorium.com from where I > can study the same? I browsed scriptorium but found paid > resources only. Please help me in learning. Steve said, "I used the Scripto

RE: Bad Autonumbers

[EMAIL PROTECTED] describes the following issue: > > Unstructured Frame 7.2 on XP V2002 SP2: I've got 400 files in the book. > I cannot get a "work package number" autonumber to work properly in the > files at the beginning of the book. "P:000" just returns "0001". > I've gone into the document m

RE: Bad Autonumbers

Randall C. Reed wrote: > I cannot get a "work package number" autonumber to work > properly in the files at the beginning of the book. > "P:000" just returns "0001". > I've gone into the document menu on both the book and > individual files and set the "Page" numbering feature to > "Continue."

RE: "Times Font" - fixed in FM 8.0?

Brad Simmons wrote: > Has Adobe finally gotten around to fixing that blasted "Times Font" > problem? You know, the one where FrameMaker looks in vain for > the "Times font", and it will tell you that you don't have it > - even when it's on your PC? There's never been a "Times Font" bug that I

RE: Bad Autonumbers

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > But the autonumber isn't a page number, it's a paragraph number. You > need to set paragraph numbering to continue. Note, however, that this > affects all paragraph autonumber series; you can't have, for instance, > figure numbers restart while your package numbers conti

RE: Bad Autonumbers

Ahh, based on this description, I think you need to look for some rogue paragraph that is formatted with the same numbering series label (P) that you are using in your document, but with some other definition. But because finding such a rogue paragraph can be a real PITA, the easiest solution m

RE: Bad Autonumbers

Fred Ridder wrote: > But if you set the properties to "Continue", it *is* possible > to reset a specific paragraph numbering series by formatting > a paragraph with an autonumber formula that explicitly sets > the appropriate counter elements in the series definition to > the desired values

Re: Why am I losing page and column breaks?

Natalie Bircher wrote: Does anyone know why I would lose page and column breaks? In the words of a favourite reference librarian of mine, when speaking to patrons with ill-formed questions: "Could you please be a little more vague?" Natalie!! You are a technical writer. Please provide s

Why am I losing page and column breaks?

Does anyone know why I would lose page and column breaks? Natalie Bircher Technical Writer BackStreet Media Phone: 320-843-4337 Fax: 320-842-4236 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ You are currently subscribed to Fra

Correction: Bad Autonumbers

Ouch! Can you tell I am exhausted??? Replace "page" with "paragraph", please. Does that make any more sense, or am I totally burned out beyond all belief? R. PS: Excellent point: I should have realized that ALL flavors of autonumbers will be treated the same. That doesn't solve my package numbe

RE: Bad Autonumbers

Good point Fred. My craziness is due to the fact that some are working continuously, then another file comes up and BANG, I'm back to 001 again. Not good... Thanks! R. From: Fred Ridder [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 10:23 AM To:

RE: Why am I losing page and column breaks?

Just a shot in the dark here, but were your page and column breaks applied via manual overrides (using Special>Page Break), and did you recently re-import your document formats? If so, you blew them away by re-importing the template. Manual overrides are rarely the way to go if you want any kind of

RE: Why am I losing page and column breaks?

Natalie Bircher wrote: > Does anyone know why I would lose page and column breaks? Kinda depends on how they were created (it never hurts to describe the situation in a bit more detail, including software version, etc.). IIRC, there's a Page Break menu item (I don't have it because I've disab

RE: Why am I losing page and column breaks?

Stuart!! Where do you get off busting my chops? You apparently need more help than the others that have answered my question with the information I gave. I didn't need to give them my OS or FM version to answer this question. Your tone is arrogant and self-serving. You would do better to keep

Re: Why am I losing page and column breaks?

In fairness to Stuart (his "tone" notwithstanding), I didn't attempt to answer the original question because it wasn't clear to me either. Also, if you did receive satisfactory answers from others, please share them with the list. Thanks. Rick Quatro Carmen Publishing 585-659-8267 www.frameexp

Re: Why am I losing page and column breaks?

On 10/4/07, Rick Quatro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > In fairness to Stuart (his "tone" notwithstanding), I didn't attempt to > answer the original question because it wasn't clear to me either. Same here. The context you provide helps those list volunteers who may be able to help you. Regards,

Re: Why am I losing page and column breaks?

Ditto. Stuart's comment was fair; you can't help much if you don't know the context. I was sorely tempted to hit Reply to the OP and just say "yes." Art On 10/4/07, Rick Quatro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > In fairness to Stuart (his "tone" notwithstanding), I didn't attempt to > answer the origin

RE: Why am I losing page and column breaks?

Wow, I sure missed Stuart's subtext. Disclaimer: I do not know Stuart. With over 36 years in computers and data wrangling, yep, pardner, over 36...since back in the steam-powered days of the big iron... There was not enough information in the original question for me to provide you with a

RE: Why am I losing page and column breaks?

Natalie Bircher wrote: > Stuart!! > Where do you get off busting my chops? > > You apparently need more help than the others that have > answered my question with the information I gave. I didn't > need to give them my OS or FM version to answer this question. > > Your tone is arrogant and

RE: Why am I losing page and column breaks?

First, I apologize for my knee-jerk response...to Stuart and all of you. I really, truly had no idea what type of information you would need to answer such a question. A polite request for that information would have been appropriate, and appreciated. -Original Message- From: Stuart Rog

Re: Why am I losing page and column breaks?

Natalie Bircher wrote: First, I apologize for my knee-jerk response...to Stuart and all of you. Oh all right then, since we've both apologized, I won't keep to myself after all. (We're in the middle of an election campaign in Ontario, so making promises that won't be kept is the sport-du-jou

Re: Why am I losing page and column breaks?

Natalie Bircher wrote: Stuart!! Where do you get off busting my chops? You apparently need more help than the others that have answered my question with the information I gave. I didn't need to give them my OS or FM version to answer this question. Your tone is arrogant and self-serving. Y

Re: A delicate question

I'd check the STC salary survey... stc.org, although it may be in a protected area and you'd have to have a member send you a copy. Art On 10/4/07, Christine Beck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I hope this is an appropriate forum for this, but who else do I ask? > > Does anyone know the current

Re: A delicate question

To figure a contract rate / range, I'd use your salary and add about 1/3 for the bennies that you'll have to pay. Then figure the number of hours you want to work and how many weeks (or the number of days you'll be employed). And that's the number with which you divide the salary sum Art On 1

RE: A delicate question

Better than STC salary survey, which I believe is sadly out of date, check www.salary.com or the US labor department web site. Those numbers seem more accurate. Karen L. Zorn Zorn Technologies, Inc. Mesa, AZ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of

Frame 8 - Acrobat 8 crash

Here is my situation: Windows XP Frame 8 Acrobat Distiller Acrobat 8 Pro I am using a template from the Frame 5 template pack that I modified in Frame 8. I attempt a 'Save As PDF' and Frame immediately crashes - no error, no nothing. Any clues as to what is going on? JW __

Re: Structured questions

Thanks (belatedly) very much Kay. On 10/3/07, Sales at Bright Path <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi Joel: > > 1. If you click in a text line, it goes blank because the text lines are > not > attached to structure. Rather than using a text line or text frame, you > should keep everything connecte

Re: Frame 8 - Acrobat 8 crash

What happens when you print it to the Adobe PDF printer instance? And there are a bunch of templates... is it an individual file, or a book with components, or something else? Have you applied the Acrobat 8.1 upgrade / patch? Art On 10/4/07, Joel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Here is my situation:

Re: Frame 8 - Acrobat 8 crash

> Have you applied the Acrobat 8.1 upgrade / patch? In my experience and in the experience of several writers I work with, this is the very culprit. Revert back to Acrobat 8.0. -- Bill Swallow HATT List Owner WWP-Users List Owner Senior Member STC, TechValley Chapter STC Single-Sourcing SIG Mana

Searching for empty paragraphs

Hi all - For years I've used the following wildcat search string to locate empty paragraphs: ^\p (start of line followed by paragraph ending) It stopped working a couple releases ago (I believe in FM 7, maybe earlier). Any suggestions? If this doesn't work in FM, does anyone know a way o

Re: Searching for empty paragraphs

Hi Pat, How about \P\p Rick Quatro Carmen Publishing 585-659-8267 www.frameexpert.com Hi all - For years I've used the following wildcat search string to locate empty paragraphs: ^\p (start of line followed by paragraph ending) It stopped working a couple releases ago (I believe in FM 7,

Re: Searching for empty paragraphs

The problem with that is when you replace it with \p (to get rid of the empty), you lose the paragraph formatting you want to keep unless both paragraphs (the "good" one and the empty one) use the same format. That's what made ^\p such a good solution - you could replace it with nothing.

RE: Frame 8 - Acrobat 8 crash

Based upon what we know, it is highly unlikely that the Acrobat 8.1 update has anything to do with the problems of "save as PDF" with FrameMaker 8. Problems appear to be in FrameMaker 8. Update for FrameMaker 8 under development now. - Dov > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PRO

Re: Searching for empty paragraphs

Hi Pat, Mekon has a plug-in called "mTools". It can remove empty paragraphs, but I'm not sure what it does with the formatting of the paragraphs you want to keep. It has been a while since I've used it. You can find more information about mTools here: http://www.mekon.com/Technology/A-Z/MTools/i