Re: FM12: PDF file size exploding

2015-02-24 Thread Lin Sims
Would a corrupt .joboptions file result in the sort of file size increase I saw? I just tried creating a PDF using the Standard option, and everything was fine. On Tue, Feb 24, 2015 at 3:01 PM, Lin Sims ljsims...@gmail.com wrote: It does a bit, doesn't it? I've never really dug into Distiller,

Re: FM12: PDF file size exploding

2015-02-24 Thread Lin Sims
It does a bit, doesn't it? I've never really dug into Distiller, so I'm going to spend some time with the PDF Creation Settings manual and see if it sheds any light on the issue. This is the first job I've ever had that actually created a customized joboptions file. Always before, I picked

Re: FM12: PDF file size exploding

2015-02-24 Thread Lin Sims
And that's what it was. When I replaced the copy I had with a clean version, generated a PDF, then used the Save As Reduced size, it came out perfectly. Seriously, you'd think I'd be happier about solving the problem, but what a bloody piddly thing it turned out to be to take all that time to

Re: FM12: PDF file size exploding

2015-02-24 Thread Robert Lauriston
Seems plausible. Inappropriate .joboptions settings can cause massive bloat. On Tue, Feb 24, 2015 at 12:40 PM, Lin Sims ljsims...@gmail.com wrote: Would a corrupt .joboptions file result in the sort of file size increase I saw? I just tried creating a PDF using the Standard option, and

Re: FM12: PDF file size exploding

2015-02-24 Thread Lin Sims
FYI to all, I changed the image compression options from JPEG to off, since we only use either SVGs or PNGs in our documents. The file size dropped dramatically. As in, it's back to what I expected. Now if I can just get the text within the SVG graphics to be searchable (a major reason for the

Re: FM12: PDF file size exploding

2015-02-24 Thread Robert Lauriston
That seems bizarre. On Tue, Feb 24, 2015 at 7:00 AM, Lin Sims ljsims...@gmail.com wrote: FYI to all, I changed the image compression options from JPEG to off, since we only use either SVGs or PNGs in our documents. The file size dropped dramatically. As in, it's back to what I expected.

Re: FM12: PDF file size exploding

2015-02-23 Thread Lin Sims
And, just testing it, but Adobe Acrobat was not able to find text inside a graphic, which was a big reason why we upgraded. I'll have to look into that, but I bet you're right, Robert. I bet that's the cause. On Mon, Feb 23, 2015 at 3:57 PM, Lin Sims ljsims...@gmail.com wrote: blink Shoot,

Re: FM12: PDF file size exploding

2015-02-23 Thread Lin Sims
blink Shoot, you're right. Adobe finally fixed the SVG generation into PDF so that the SVG graphics are searchable again. Or so they say, I haven't actually tried to search for anything. On Mon, Feb 23, 2015 at 3:54 PM, Robert Lauriston rob...@lauriston.com wrote: Maybe there's a change in how

Re: FM12: PDF file size exploding

2015-02-23 Thread Lin Sims
:16:20 -0500 From: Lin Sims ljsims...@gmail.com To: David Boss bossc...@rogers.com Cc: Frame Users framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: FM12: PDF file size exploding Message-ID: ca+momch5u+scw8jkcxtcbgggyuayctdwazw9ucausnvcwwg...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset

Re: FM12: PDF file size exploding

2015-02-23 Thread Robert Lauriston
If that happened to me, I'd still want to know where the bloat was coming from. PDFs larger than 10MB still present problems for me on occasion, and files becoming 4X larger without any additional data strongly suggests that a property setting was inappropriately changed in the upgrade or some new

Re: FM12: PDF file size exploding

2015-02-23 Thread Robert Lauriston
Are of the image compression options different? On Mon, Feb 23, 2015 at 10:57 AM, Lin Sims ljsims...@gmail.com wrote: Nope. It's off by default. I had switched it on for one of the PDF generations, because I was hoping to use the import comments from PDF to Frame, but it turns out that really

Re: FM12: PDF file size exploding

2015-02-23 Thread Lin Sims
Nope. All the images are SVGs that are copied into the file (yes, I know, but we're kinda stuck with that as part of the process). On Mon, Feb 23, 2015 at 2:24 PM, Robert Lauriston rob...@lauriston.com wrote: Are of the image compression options different? On Mon, Feb 23, 2015 at 10:57 AM,

Re: FM12: PDF file size exploding

2015-02-20 Thread Davis, David
ljsims...@gmail.com To: David Boss bossc...@rogers.com Cc: Frame Users framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: FM12: PDF file size exploding Message-ID: ca+momch5u+scw8jkcxtcbgggyuayctdwazw9ucausnvcwwg...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Thanks for the tip. I tried

RE: FM12: PDF file size exploding

2015-02-18 Thread David Boss
/ www.bosscommunications.com / www.bossphotographic.com From: Lin Sims [mailto:ljsims...@gmail.com] Sent: February-18-15 2:16 PM To: David Boss Cc: Frame Users Subject: Re: FM12: PDF file size exploding Thanks for the tip. I tried removing everything but the metadata (which was only the doc title

Re: FM12: PDF file size exploding

2015-02-18 Thread Lin Sims
Communications / Boss Photographic* www.bosscommunications.com / www.bossphotographic.com *From:* Lin Sims [mailto:ljsims...@gmail.com] *Sent:* February-18-15 2:16 PM *To:* David Boss *Cc:* Frame Users *Subject:* Re: FM12: PDF file size exploding Thanks for the tip. I tried removing

Re: FM12: PDF file size exploding

2015-02-18 Thread Lin Sims
Thanks for the tip. I tried removing everything but the metadata (which was only the doc title), but it only trimmed about 2Mb off and took the bookmarks with it. On Wed, Feb 18, 2015 at 1:36 PM, David Boss bossc...@rogers.com wrote: Try Tools Protection Remove Hidden Information. Even if you

Re: FM12: PDF file size exploding

2015-02-18 Thread David Boss
Try Tools Protection Remove Hidden Information. Even if you only select something like Hidden text, it removes a lot of other things like reader extensions, review and forms workflows, and information added by third-party applications. It can reduce the file size significantly. David Boss

RE: FM12: PDF file size exploding

2015-02-17 Thread Fred Ridder
Not to minimize your question, but... With the cost of computer storage running about $0.10 per gigabyte for hard disk or $0.50 per gigabyte for SSD, I'm not sure it's worthwhile worrying about 10 MB more or less. That's less than 1/2 cent's worth of storage space. Unless you know your

Re: FM12: PDF file size exploding

2015-02-17 Thread Lin Sims
The PDF has to be posted as a shared review on a cloud web storage site. There's a size limit to what you can upload. My company is using corporate GMAIL and I have a 30Gb limit on storage, and for now I have to attach a shared review enabled PDF to an email to allow reviewers to join the review*.

Re: FM12: PDF file size exploding

2015-02-17 Thread Lin Sims
Ah! More information I left out! The book is an unstructured book, but it includes 3 files that were created from structured data. Those 3 files are still structured, because that's the only way to keep the xref links working. The process is this: 1. An Excel 2010 spreadsheet is converted to

RE: FM12: PDF file size exploding

2015-02-17 Thread Abungu, Salome
...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Lin Sims Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2015 2:08 PM To: Scott Prentice Cc: Frame Users Subject: Re: FM12: PDF file size exploding Ah! More information I left out! The book is an unstructured book, but it includes 3 files that were

Re: FM12: PDF file size exploding

2015-02-17 Thread Lin Sims
-- Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2015 12:18:11 -0500 Subject: Re: FM12: PDF file size exploding From: ljsims...@gmail.com To: docu...@hotmail.com CC: framers@lists.frameusers.com The PDF has to be posted as a shared review on a cloud web storage site. There's a size limit to what

Re: FM12: PDF file size exploding

2015-02-17 Thread Scott Prentice
If these files started off as XML or structured files, and the others didn't, there could definitely be some extra cruft in there. You probably checked this already, but are these files still structured? I haven't noticed any significant size difference in PDFs from XML from FM11 to FM12. I

Re: FM12: PDF file size exploding

2015-02-17 Thread Lin Sims
After a bit of testing, the increase seems to be linked to 3 files that were created using DITAFMx from a batch of xml files that were generated by script from an Excel workbook. Interestingly, these files have always been part of the document (and inserted in the same way), so I'm not sure why

RE: FM12: PDF file size exploding

2015-02-17 Thread Craig, Alison
: RE: FM12: PDF file size exploding Not to minimize your question, but... With the cost of computer storage running about $0.10 per gigabyte for hard disk or $0.50 per gigabyte for SSD, I'm not sure it's worthwhile worrying about 10 MB more or less. That's less than 1/2 cent's worth of storage

RE: FM12: PDF file size exploding

2015-02-17 Thread Fred Ridder
to your query because many of us have had no need to pay attention to this issue. -FR Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2015 12:18:11 -0500 Subject: Re: FM12: PDF file size exploding From: ljsims...@gmail.com To: docu...@hotmail.com CC: framers@lists.frameusers.com The PDF has to be posted as a shared review

Re: FM12: PDF file size exploding

2015-02-17 Thread David Spreadbury
Lin,I just tested your issue opening a 12 page text only structured FM7.2 file and saving it as FM12.Did nothing more than open the FM7.2 in FM12 and then save it as a FM12 document.Printed FM12 version using Acro XI Adobe PDF driver.Distilled postscript to PDF.FM7.2 file size=358KB Acro 8

RE: FM12: PDF file size exploding

2015-02-17 Thread Fred Ridder
to do so. Yes, there will always be certain circumstances where size matters; but for most of us, it simply is what it is. -FR Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2015 13:49:51 -0500 Subject: Re: FM12: PDF file size exploding From: ljsims...@gmail.com To: docu...@hotmail.com CC: framers@lists.frameusers.com Yes

RE: FM12: PDF file size exploding

2015-02-17 Thread Zimmerman, Gary
Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2015 10:59 AM To: Lin Sims Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: FM12: PDF file size exploding And I wasn't jumping on you, either, Lin. I wanted to clarify to several others who had replied (off-list and on-) that they have similar concerns to yours