Re: [Framework-Team] Reworking the PLIP Lifecycle | discussion

2011-02-26 Thread Wichert Akkerman
months for beta/release candidate state should suffice. Wichert. -- Wichert Akkerman wich...@wiggy.net It is simple to make things. http://www.wiggy.net/ It is hard to make things simple. ___ Framework-Team mailing list Framework

Re: [Framework-Team] Reworking the PLIP Lifecycle | discussion

2011-01-16 Thread Wichert Akkerman
fewer big ones. If you have many small deadlines they effectively become meaningless since people will just wait for the next one (to fly by). I've always tried to advocate a more continuous development pattern and I love Elizabeth's proposal. Wichert. -- Wichert Akkerman wich...@wiggy.net

Re: [Framework-Team] For next time around - review processes

2010-09-21 Thread Wichert Akkerman
On 9/21/10 10:49 , Martin Aspeli wrote: Hi, I know we have a process that says reviewers should add their notes in text files in the review buildout. I think it'd be bad to change the process now, but for next time around, can I suggest that we use Trac for all comments, voting and official

Re: [Framework-Team] [Plone-cvs] r40085 - buildouts/plone-coredev/branches/4.1/plips

2010-09-20 Thread Wichert Akkerman
On 9/20/10 17:58 , Rob Gietema wrote: Author: robgietema Date: Mon Sep 20 15:58:35 2010 New Revision: 40085 Added: buildouts/plone-coredev/branches/4.1/plips/plip10778-review-robgietema.txt Log: Added review for PLIP10778. Added:

Re: [Framework-Team] Plone roadmap

2010-09-05 Thread Wichert Akkerman
every use case you want more control over handling login behaviour than WSGI middleware can provide. It is much simpler to have a simple API to an AAA service and use that than to try pushing this into middleware. Wichert. -- Wichert Akkerman wich...@wiggy.net It is simple to make things

Re: [Framework-Team] PLIP #10778 (UUIDs) - ready for initial review

2010-08-29 Thread Wichert Akkerman
, and for that reason everyone has switched to the random based approach as implemented by uuid4(). Wichert. -- Wichert Akkerman wich...@wiggy.net It is simple to make things. http://www.wiggy.net/ It is hard to make things simple. ___ Framework-Team

[Framework-Team] plone.uuid behaviour

2010-08-29 Thread Wichert Akkerman
an adapter factory returning None. That makes the API a bit awkward, so I would suggest to replace the IUUID adaptor based approach with a simpler helper function. Wichert. -- Wichert Akkerman wich...@wiggy.net It is simple to make things. http://www.wiggy.net/ It is hard

Re: [Framework-Team] plone.uuid behaviour

2010-08-29 Thread Wichert Akkerman
to interpret errors too often. The wrapper method has the advantage of having a more intuitive name and can distinguish between missing UUID support and a None UUID, while not loosing any functionality. Wichert. -- Wichert Akkerman wich...@wiggy.net It is simple to make things. http

Re: [Framework-Team] PLIP #10961 File uploads to folder_contents

2010-08-24 Thread Wichert Akkerman
On 8/24/10 13:55 , Martin Aspeli wrote: This is the kind of feature that's more fun to think of and implement than it is actually useful to anyone. Those who need archive download functionality usually have very specific reasons for wanting it, and typically do not want to allow people to

Re: [Framework-Team] PLIP Ticket # 10687

2010-07-21 Thread Wichert Akkerman
their Google account on a Plone site? Or their facebook login? Wichert. -- Wichert Akkerman wich...@wiggy.net It is simple to make things. http://www.wiggy.net/ It is hard to make things simple. ___ Framework-Team mailing list

Re: [Framework-Team] PlonePAS 3.x errors

2010-06-03 Thread Wichert Akkerman
. It needs to be reverted. Wichert. -- Wichert Akkerman wich...@wiggy.net It is simple to make things. http://www.wiggy.net/ It is hard to make things simple. ___ Framework-Team mailing list Framework-Team@lists.plone.org http

Re: [Framework-Team] [Plone-developers] PlonePAS 3.x errors

2010-06-03 Thread Wichert Akkerman
On 6/3/10 03:11 , Laurence Rowe wrote: http://dev.plone.org/collective/changeset/118407 – plone pas cookies path set for /plone_site instead of always root - ticket #5665 – introduced a couple of test failures in Plone: I've reverted that change. Wichert.

Re: [Framework-Team] Plone 5 - rough roadmap

2010-03-16 Thread Wichert Akkerman
On 3/16/10 12:34 , Laurence Rowe wrote: On 15 March 2010 09:13, Alexander Limil...@plone.org wrote: 2010/3/12 Hanno Schlichtingha...@hannosch.eu On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 5:39 PM, Laurence Rowel...@lrowe.co.uk wrote: On 12 March 2010 15:07, Hanno Schlichtingha...@hannosch.eu wrote:

Re: [Framework-Team] Plone 5 - rough roadmap

2010-03-16 Thread Wichert Akkerman
On 3/16/10 18:40 , Alexander Limi wrote: On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 4:45 AM, Wichert Akkerman wich...@wiggy.net mailto:wich...@wiggy.net wrote: I'ld like to see a list of pros and cons of using HTML 5 as well. I am quite worried by the lack of proper support in existing browsers. None

Re: [Framework-Team] Re: A suggestion to egg on add-on product authors

2010-03-12 Thread Wichert Akkerman
you can just delete the Plone directory it created. I suspect he means uninstall support for add-on products. Neither GenericSetup nor CMFQuickInstaller properly support that. Wichert. -- Wichert Akkerman wich...@wiggy.net It is simple to make things. http://www.wiggy.net

Re: [Framework-Team] Re: Body class

2010-01-17 Thread Wichert Akkerman
. -- Wichert Akkerman wich...@wiggy.net It is simple to make things. http://www.wiggy.net/ It is hard to make things simple. ___ Framework-Team mailing list Framework-Team@lists.plone.org http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/framework-team

Re: [Framework-Team] plone.registry and z3c.form

2009-09-25 Thread Wichert Akkerman
will have to style two types of form markup. z3c.form provides the hooks to fix that, but someone needs to do the work. Wichert. -- Wichert Akkerman wich...@wiggy.net It is simple to make things. http://www.wiggy.net/ It is hard to make things simple

[Framework-Team] Re: [Plone-cvs] r29756 - plone.app.layout/branches/2.0/plone/app/layout/viewlets

2009-09-17 Thread Wichert Akkerman
tools in a pulldown regardless of whether the new theme lands. -- Alexander Limi · http://limi.net On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 10:52 PM, Wichert Akkerman wich...@wiggy.net mailto:wich...@wiggy.net wrote: Shouldn't this be in a sunburst branch? I suspect this broke the standard Plone skin

[Framework-Team] Re: DataGridField for z3c.form?

2009-09-10 Thread Wichert Akkerman
I found myself having the same need as Vincent so I looked a little bit at z3c.form. The end result is very much a mixed blessing. As Vincent discovered it is not very hard to get z3c.form 2.1 to manage a list of items. In my example I have this interface which is repeated: class

Re: [Framework-Team] Re: DataGridField for z3c.form?

2009-09-10 Thread Wichert Akkerman
On 9/10/09 16:43 , Martin Aspeli wrote: - z3c.form produces very awful HTML Does that apply to the general case, or only to the case of nested structures like this? To the general case. There are lots of unneeded divs, weird things like div class=errordiv class=errorerror message/div/div

Re: [Framework-Team] Re: DataGridField for z3c.form?

2009-09-10 Thread Wichert Akkerman
it requires writing CSS for two different markup patterns. Wichert. -- Wichert Akkerman wich...@wiggy.net It is simple to make things. http://www.wiggy.net/ It is hard to make things simple. ___ Framework-Team mailing list Framework

Re: [Board] Re: [Framework-Team] Re: [Plone 4] PLIP #9249 Add TinyMCE as the default visual editor

2009-08-20 Thread Wichert Akkerman
On 2009-8-20 06:54, Andreas Zeidler wrote: On Aug 13, 2009, at 10:18 PM, Wichert Akkerman wrote: On 2009-8-13 22:16, Alexander Limi wrote: FWIW, Mozilla runs their entire project without a contributor agreement — so we are already way ahead of what most large open source projects do

[Framework-Team] Re: [Collective-checkins] r93885 - in Products.PlonePAS/branches/plip9305-fullname/Products/PlonePAS: tests tools

2009-08-07 Thread Wichert Akkerman
On 8/7/09 12:13 , Wichert Akkerman wrote: I'm afraid I also don't buy the lookup mechanism mentioned in the PDF: you are essentialy creating a persistent cache system, which means that suddenly page views can trigger ZODB writes, which is very bad for high performance sites. It also will miss

[Framework-Team] Re: [Collective-checkins] r93885 - in Products.PlonePAS/branches/plip9305-fullname/Products/PlonePAS: tests tools

2009-08-07 Thread Wichert Akkerman
On 8/7/09 12:20 , Ralph Jacobs wrote: Wichert Akkerman wrote: On 8/7/09 12:13 , Wichert Akkerman wrote: I'm afraid I also don't buy the lookup mechanism mentioned in the PDF: you are essentialy creating a persistent cache system, which means that suddenly page views can trigger ZODB writes

Re: (Was Re: [Framework-Team] Minutes: 8 August 2009)

2009-08-06 Thread Wichert Akkerman
methods and b) this change transparently exposes all image where the original code only hardcoded exposure of a field with the name 'iage'. I don't quite see what the problem is with that code; can someone explain that? Wichert. -- Wichert Akkerman wich...@wiggy.net It is simple to make things

Re: [Framework-Team] [Plone 4] PLIP #9249 Add TinyMCE as the default visual editor

2009-07-30 Thread Wichert Akkerman
On 7/30/09 2:00 AM, Martin Aspeli wrote: 2009/7/30 Erik Rosepsuc...@grinchcentral.com: 1) The current code base is located in the Collective. Since TinyMCE will be the default editor in Plone 4 should I move (copy) the code base to Plone SVN? -1. Why make it harder for people to contribute?

Re: [Framework-Team] Re: [Plone 4] PLIP #9249 Add TinyMCE as the default visual editor

2009-07-29 Thread Wichert Akkerman
On 7/29/09 7:51 AM, Jon Stahl wrote: On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 12:07 AM, Geir Bækholt · Jarnbaekh...@jarn.com wrote: There is a step missing here: contributors must not only have signed the agreement, they must explicitly allow that specific code to be donated to the foundation. Signing the

Re: [Framework-Team] Re: [Plone 4] PLIP #9249 Add TinyMCE as the default visual editor

2009-07-29 Thread Wichert Akkerman
On 7/29/09 8:09 AM, Martin Aspeli wrote: Jon Stahl wrote: On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 12:07 AM, Geir Bækholt · Jarnbaekh...@jarn.com wrote: There is a step missing here: contributors must not only have signed the agreement, they must explicitly allow that specific code to be donated to the

Re: [Framework-Team] Re: [Plone 4] PLIP #9249 Add TinyMCE as the default visual editor

2009-07-28 Thread Wichert Akkerman
On 7/27/09 10:52 PM, Geir Bækholt · Jarn wrote: On 27. juli. 2009, at 22.12, Jon Stahl wrote: Absolutely. Getting the code into the Foundation's long-term conservancy is very much worth doing if it's not too terribly hard. I've not been through the process before of moving Collective code to

Re: [Framework-Team] Re: [Plone 4] PLIP #9249 Add TinyMCE as the default visual editor

2009-07-27 Thread Wichert Akkerman
On 7/27/09 4:56 PM, Rob Gietema wrote: This shouldn't be an issue at all since 99.9% of the code is done by me, just some small bugfixes by others who also have commit access to Plone SVN and I'm sure won't mind. That's not good enough: you need explicit approval. Wichert.

Re: [Framework-Team] [Plone 4] PLIP #9249 Add TinyMCE as the default visual editor

2009-07-27 Thread Wichert Akkerman
On 7/27/09 1:38 PM, Rob Gietema wrote: Hi, I'm currently working on TinyMCE for Plone 4 and would like some feedback on two issues: 1) The current code base is located in the Collective. Since TinyMCE will be the default editor in Plone 4 should I move (copy) the code base to Plone SVN? -0

[Framework-Team] Plone 4 dependencies

2009-05-26 Thread Wichert Akkerman
: SHA1 On May 26, 2009, at 10:21 , Wichert Akkerman wrote: Previously Jens Vagelpohl wrote: The CMF eggs, even on trunk, still advertise compatibility with Zope 2.10. I believe we had agreed to target Zope 2.12 with trunk - please correct me if that's wrong. If we do want Zope 2.12 I would like

[Framework-Team] Plone 3.3rc3 tagged and uploaded

2009-05-22 Thread Wichert Akkerman
in two weeks. If any changes are necessary we will make another release candidate and repeat the process. Regards, Wichert. -- Wichert Akkerman wich...@wiggy.netIt is simple to make things. http://www.wiggy.net/ It is hard to make things simple

Re: [Framework-Team] Re: [Plone-developers] The new Plone 4.0

2009-05-09 Thread Wichert Akkerman
. Personally, I think it's a good idea, but in the past, we've had a lack of commitment/follow-up with CSS/theme stuff, and a last-minute rush to put in dozens of template and CSS changes which then cause breakage in release candidates. +1 Wichert. -- Wichert Akkerman wich...@wiggy.net

Re: [Framework-Team] Re: Plone 3.5

2009-05-05 Thread Wichert Akkerman
promise to never break stability in the 3.x, something I feel quite strongly about. Wichert. -- Wichert Akkerman wich...@wiggy.netIt is simple to make things. http://www.wiggy.net/ It is hard to make things simple. ___ Framework-Team

Re: [Framework-Team] Re: Version Support Confusion

2009-04-22 Thread Wichert Akkerman
releases try very hard to maintain compatibility, so this should not be problematic. Wichert. -- Wichert Akkerman wich...@wiggy.netIt is simple to make things. http://www.wiggy.net/ It is hard to make things simple. ___ Framework-Team

Re: [Framework-Team] Version Support Confusion

2009-04-21 Thread Wichert Akkerman
maintenance and not to security support. Just as important: we should communicate this policy clearly. I suggest a post to plone-announce describing this policy and an easily findable document on plone.org (preferably reachable in 2 or 3 clicks from the frontpage). Wichert. -- Wichert Akkerman wich

[Framework-Team] [Fwd: Re: [Checkins] SVN: z3ext. do not use z3c.autoinclude]

2009-04-06 Thread Wichert Akkerman
: Nikolay Kim fafhr...@gmail.com To: Wichert Akkerman wich...@wiggy.net CC: check...@zope.org Previously Nikolay Kim wrote: Log message for revision 98920: do not use z3c.autoinclude Out of curiosity: why? too slow. i create z3c.recipe.autoinclude instead of z3c.autoinclude

Re: [Framework-Team] [Fwd: Re: [Checkins] SVN: z3ext. do not use z3c.autoinclude]

2009-04-06 Thread Wichert Akkerman
On 4/6/09 4:03 PM, Andreas Zeidler wrote: On Apr 6, 2009, at 2:14 PM, Wichert Akkerman wrote: This is possibly a valid concern for us as well. I wonder if there is room for optimization here - our startup time is already quite slow. have you informed/asked ethan about this? I couldn't find

[Framework-Team] Plone 3.3rc2 tagged and uploaded

2009-04-05 Thread Wichert Akkerman
candidate and repeat the process. Regards, Wichert. -- Wichert Akkerman wich...@wiggy.netIt is simple to make things. http://www.wiggy.net/ It is hard to make things simple. ___ Framework-Team mailing list Framework-Team

[Framework-Team] Re: [Plone-installers] [Plone-developers] Plone 3.3rc11 tagged and uploaded

2009-04-02 Thread Wichert Akkerman
On 4/2/09 9:42 AM, Vincent Fretin wrote: Hi Wichert, Can you release Products.CMFEditions 1.2? There is an i18n fix in it. Can you port those changes to trunk first? I don't want to cut a release until all fixes have been merged to trunk to prevent future regressions. Wichert.

Re: [Framework-Team] Plone 3.3rc11 tagged and uploaded

2009-03-31 Thread Wichert Akkerman
On 3/31/09 6:12 AM, Jon Stahl wrote: Wichert Akkerman wrote: I have tagged and uploaded Plone 3.3rc1. This is a first release candidate, so please everyone: test the hell out of it! If no critical bugs are found we will release this unmodified as 3.3 final in two weeks. If any changes

[Framework-Team] Re: [Plone-developers] Plone 3.3rc11 tagged and uploaded

2009-03-31 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously robert rottermann wrote: Wichert Akkerman schrieb: I have tagged and uploaded Plone 3.3rc1. This is a first release candidate, so please everyone: test the hell out of it! hi there, Is there a way to use buildout for this? If you have a Plone 3.2 buildout just change

[Framework-Team] Plone 3.3rc11 tagged and uploaded

2009-03-30 Thread Wichert Akkerman
the process. Regards, Wichert. -- Wichert Akkerman wich...@wiggy.netIt is simple to make things. http://www.wiggy.net/ It is hard to make things simple. ___ Framework-Team mailing list Framework-Team@lists.plone.org http

Re: [Framework-Team] concerns about our beta process

2009-03-15 Thread Wichert Akkerman
buildout. http://plone.org/products/plone/releases/3.3, which seems the most logical place, offers no clue. That is simply because the installers have not yet been generated. I expect Steve and Sidnie to finish them soon. Wichert. -- Wichert Akkerman wich...@wiggy.netIt is simple to make

Re: [Framework-Team] Re: Quick team meeting

2009-03-13 Thread Wichert Akkerman
scheduling conflicts for future meetings. Then we can reconcile that information and schedule a regular meeting. Workdays do not work for me. Mornings in the weekend are probably best. Wichert. -- Wichert Akkerman wich...@wiggy.netIt is simple to make things. http://www.wiggy.net

Re: [Framework-Team] Quick team meeting

2009-03-12 Thread Wichert Akkerman
are never doable for me. Saturday mornings (say 10h CET or so) are probably best for me. Wichert. -- Wichert Akkerman wich...@wiggy.netIt is simple to make things. http://www.wiggy.net/ It is hard to make things simple

[Framework-Team] Plone 3.3b1 tagged and uploaded

2009-03-12 Thread Wichert Akkerman
I have tagged and uploaded Plone 3.3b1. This is a first beta release, so please everyone: test the hell out of it! Unless any unexpected problems surface I intend to make a release candidate release in 3 weeks. Regards, Wichert. -- Wichert Akkerman wich...@wiggy.netIt is simple to make

[Framework-Team] Reminder: PLIP merges are due

2009-02-27 Thread Wichert Akkerman
: Adapterise the Extensible Indexable Object Wrapper Andreas Zeidler: - PLIP 241: Clean up auto-sort: auto-order code - PLIP 246: View for rendering events as an iCalendar file Ethan Jucovy: - PLIP 247: Automate ZCML Loading for Plone Plug-ins Regards, Wichert. -- Wichert Akkerman wich...@wiggy.net

Re: [Framework-Team] Re: Final review report

2009-02-05 Thread Wichert Akkerman
On 2/5/09 9:45 AM, Raphael Ritz wrote: Andreas Zeidler wrote: hi wichert, On Feb 4, 2009, at 10:11 AM, Wichert Akkerman wrote: The deadline for the PLIP review report was four days ago. From what I can see not all reviews are in, and no report has been written yet. Can I please get

[Framework-Team] Final review report

2009-02-04 Thread Wichert Akkerman
. -- Wichert Akkerman wich...@wiggy.netIt is simple to make things. http://www.wiggy.net/ It is hard to make things simple. ___ Framework-Team mailing list Framework-Team@lists.plone.org http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo

Re: [Framework-Team] plone.z3cform and absoluteURL

2009-02-04 Thread Wichert Akkerman
). Wichert. -- Wichert Akkerman wich...@wiggy.netIt is simple to make things. http://www.wiggy.net/ It is hard to make things simple. ___ Framework-Team mailing list Framework-Team@lists.plone.org http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo

[Framework-Team] Re: Final review report

2009-02-04 Thread Wichert Akkerman
On 2/4/09 5:48 PM, Steve McMahon wrote: Hi Wichert, Does this give you what you need? If not, I'll be happy to add detail. Please add some detail. In particular for rejected PLIPs it should state why they were rejected and what the PLIP author has to do to get them accepted in the next

Re: [Framework-Team] PLIP Tallies

2009-01-31 Thread Wichert Akkerman
On 1/31/09 2:18 PM, Tom Lazar wrote: i've updated my local buildout and the the site works fine now, i do get some 404 for the images in the timeline (http://localhost:8080/newsite/history_compare_with_current.png) etc, no showstopper, obviously, but if you can fix that still today i can give

Re: [Framework-Team] Re: NuPlone and Plone 3.2

2009-01-27 Thread Wichert Akkerman
On 1/27/09 1:28 PM, Andreas Zeidler wrote: On Jan 13, 2009, at 12:01 AM, Martin Aspeli wrote: Martin Aspeli wrote: Why on earth is Products.NuPlone not in the Plone 3.2 egg? Is this in purpose or just a gross oversight? Ok, I've released Products.NuPlone 1.0b3. you got the release year

[Framework-Team] Concern about review progress

2009-01-23 Thread Wichert Akkerman
-minute review rush! Wichert. -- Wichert Akkerman wich...@wiggy.netIt is simple to make things. http://www.wiggy.net/ It is hard to make things simple. ___ Framework-Team mailing list Framework-Team@lists.plone.org http

Re: [Framework-Team] PLIP 197 ready for review: feedparser as external dependency

2009-01-18 Thread Wichert Akkerman
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[Framework-Team] PLIP 238 review buildout available

2009-01-17 Thread Wichert Akkerman
to reflect that inline edit is disabled by default, and can be enabled through the ZMI. Wichert. -- Wichert Akkerman wich...@wiggy.netIt is simple to make things. http://www.wiggy.net/ It is hard to make things simple. ___ Framework

Re: [Framework-Team] Multiple workflows (Was: PLIP lifecycle)

2009-01-02 Thread Wichert Akkerman
case recently where there were separate workflows for edit and view permissions. Wichert. -- Wichert Akkerman wich...@wiggy.netIt is simple to make things. http://www.wiggy.net/ It is hard to make things simple. ___ Framework

Re: [Framework-Team] Re: PLIP's for 3.x releases in Trac???

2008-12-26 Thread Wichert Akkerman
for PLIPs? I was wondering the same thing. It very much looks like the framework team selection process somehow always invented a new PLIP process behind closed doors. Wichert. -- Wichert Akkerman wich...@wiggy.netIt is simple to make things. http://www.wiggy.net/ It is hard

[Framework-Team] Re: [Plone-developers] Plone 4 Framework Team Selection List

2008-12-18 Thread Wichert Akkerman
is added to the framework team. Regards, Wichert. -- Wichert Akkerman wich...@wiggy.netIt is simple to make things. http://www.wiggy.net/ It is hard to make things simple. ___ Framework-Team mailing list Framework-Team@lists.plone.org

Re: [Plone-developers] [Framework-Team] Re: Plone 4 Framework Team Selection List

2008-12-18 Thread Wichert Akkerman
On 12/18/08 11:43 AM, Tom Lazar wrote: and therefore should be reflected in the membership of the group which makes decisions based on those factors. i think that conclusion is the only part where we disagree. can we agree at least on that? ;-) Not without a way to guarantee that user

Re: [Plone-developers] [Framework-Team] Re: Plone 4 Framework Team Selection List

2008-12-18 Thread Wichert Akkerman
correctly that the group of people that selected the framework team (which does not include those selected people itself) has also gone one step further and defined a whole new process for how that team will work? Wichert. -- Wichert Akkerman wich...@wiggy.netIt is simple to make things. http

Re: [Framework-Team] Supported Plone Releases

2008-12-10 Thread Wichert Akkerman
releases are still listed as supported. Is there a reason that those aren't listed as unsupported since there is a 3.1 that would supersede them? Why bring this up on the framework team list? The framework team is not a governing body. Wichert. -- Wichert Akkerman [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: [Framework-Team] Supported Plone Releases

2008-12-10 Thread Wichert Akkerman
On 12/10/08 5:24 PM, Calvin Hendryx-Parker wrote: On Dec 10, 2008, at 11:22 AM, Wichert Akkerman wrote: Previously Calvin Hendryx-Parker wrote: I just noticed that on the PSC the Plone 2.5.5 release is listed as not supported. I'd suggest that unless we have sent an email to the announce

Re: [Framework-Team] atreferencebrowserwidget switch discussion

2008-12-05 Thread Wichert Akkerman
. It's definitely too late for 3.3. Wichert. -- Wichert Akkerman [EMAIL PROTECTED]It is simple to make things. http://www.wiggy.net/ It is hard to make things simple. ___ Framework-Team mailing list Framework-Team@lists.plone.org

Re: [Framework-Team] Re: Fwd: Including a Documentation section in each PLIP

2008-11-15 Thread Wichert Akkerman
for the documentation team to update/extend other documentation. Wichert. -- Wichert Akkerman [EMAIL PROTECTED]It is simple to make things. http://www.wiggy.net/ It is hard to make things simple. ___ Framework-Team mailing list Framework-Team

Re: [Framework-Team] Re: Fwd: Including a Documentation section in each PLIP

2008-11-15 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Israel Saeta Pérez wrote: On Sat, Nov 15, 2008 at 5:08 PM, Wichert Akkerman wrote: Previously Martin Aspeli wrote: I do agree that documentation should be part of PLIPs. One simple thing would be to just have a free-text on the PLIP that identifies the documentation

Re: [Framework-Team] 3.3 timeline

2008-11-05 Thread Wichert Akkerman
before the deadline, and the framework team will try to review PLIPs as soon as they are submitted. PLIPs submitted after the deadline will have to wait for 3.4. Steve and Jon will be asked to manage the process and make sure everyone is playing by the rules. Wichert. -- Wichert Akkerman [EMAIL

Re: [Framework-Team] Nomination

2008-11-05 Thread Wichert Akkerman
It would be nice if the team will have a balance between those qualities. Wichert. -- Wichert Akkerman [EMAIL PROTECTED]It is simple to make things. http://www.wiggy.net/ It is hard to make things simple. ___ Framework-Team mailing

Re: [Framework-Team] PLIP Tallies

2008-10-28 Thread Wichert Akkerman
/recept) and if the result is a reject a rationale for the rejection. We can then post that list to plone-announce so everyone sees what has been decided and why. Wichert. -- Wichert Akkerman [EMAIL PROTECTED]It is simple to make things. http://www.wiggy.net/ It is hard to make

Re: [Framework-Team] PLIP 238: Disable inline editing by default

2008-10-28 Thread Wichert Akkerman
improves the currently situation quite a bit. Wichert. -- Wichert Akkerman [EMAIL PROTECTED]It is simple to make things. http://www.wiggy.net/ It is hard to make things simple. ___ Framework-Team mailing list Framework-Team

Re: [Framework-Team] Comments on PLIP 244

2008-10-28 Thread Wichert Akkerman
make sense. Wichert. -- Wichert Akkerman [EMAIL PROTECTED]It is simple to make things. http://www.wiggy.net/ It is hard to make things simple. ___ Framework-Team mailing list Framework-Team@lists.plone.org http://lists.plone.org

[Framework-Team] review deadline: this monday

2008-10-24 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Might I remind everyone that the review deadline is this Monday? Will someone gather the results and report them? Wichert. -- Wichert Akkerman [EMAIL PROTECTED]It is simple to make things. http://www.wiggy.net/ It is hard to make things simple

Re: [Framework-Team] PLIP 244: Portlet management improvements

2008-10-16 Thread Wichert Akkerman
in the current object. Wichert. -- Wichert Akkerman [EMAIL PROTECTED]It is simple to make things. http://www.wiggy.net/ It is hard to make things simple. ___ Framework-Team mailing list Framework-Team@lists.plone.org http

[Framework-Team] PLIP 242: Move manage-portlets link to site actions

2008-10-09 Thread Wichert Akkerman
the default portlet renderer template and replace it with a site action. Wichert. -- Wichert Akkerman [EMAIL PROTECTED]It is simple to make things. http://www.wiggy.net/ It is hard to make things simple. ___ Framework-Team mailing

[Framework-Team] PLIP 231: Optionally copy roles from parent when blocking inheritance

2008-10-09 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Another one from Danny.. http://plone.org/products/plone/roadmap/231 Optionally copy roles from parent when blocking inheritance Wichert. -- Wichert Akkerman [EMAIL PROTECTED]It is simple to make things. http://www.wiggy.net/ It is hard to make things simple

Re: [Framework-Team] PLIP 323: Resource Registries Improvements

2008-10-09 Thread Wichert Akkerman
to take that role during their meeting this week. Wichert. -- Wichert Akkerman [EMAIL PROTECTED]It is simple to make things. http://www.wiggy.net/ It is hard to make things simple. ___ Framework-Team mailing list Framework-Team

[Framework-Team] Forgotten PLIPs

2008-10-09 Thread Wichert Akkerman
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Re: [Framework-Team] PLIP 242: Move manage-portlets link to site actions

2008-10-09 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Raphael Ritz wrote: Wichert Akkerman wrote: I'm too late for my own deadline, so I have no expectation that the framework can review this on time time. If you guys have a bit of spare time I would appreciate it though :) Hi Wichert, don't worry too much. At least I planned to start

[Framework-Team] PLIP 236: Move Display menu to edit and allow for custom properties

2008-10-09 Thread Wichert Akkerman
is that you don't know this in advance so the view should somehow provide this property sheet. -- Wichert Akkerman [EMAIL PROTECTED]It is simple to make things. http://www.wiggy.net/ It is hard to make things simple. ___ Framework-Team

Re: [Framework-Team] OT: problems with Gmane misinterpretations of browse back/forward and other key combinations

2008-10-03 Thread Wichert Akkerman
/ which works perfectly for reading the list. And you can use your normal email client to post to the list. Wichert. -- Wichert Akkerman [EMAIL PROTECTED]It is simple to make things. http://www.wiggy.net/ It is hard to make things simple

Re: [Framework-Team] Re: random thought: identify the components that lack owners

2008-09-28 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Martin Aspeli wrote: Wichert Akkerman wrote: Previously Martin Aspeli wrote: For example, I think we are missing a trick currently with the way we manage maintenance releases. We do a good job of setting deadlines and not missing them by too much. What we don't do, is build any

Re: [Framework-Team] Re: random thought: identify the components that lack owners

2008-09-27 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Martin Aspeli wrote: [1] Perhaps the KSS vs. Bling debate of yore came close dexterity vs devilstick could be the next one -- Wichert Akkerman [EMAIL PROTECTED]It is simple to make things. http://www.wiggy.net/ It is hard to make things simple

[Framework-Team] PLIP 228: Restore 'Add Item..' menu on all pages

2008-09-27 Thread Wichert Akkerman
several people. The full PLIP can be found here: http://plone.org/products/plone/roadmap/228 Wichert. -- Wichert Akkerman [EMAIL PROTECTED]It is simple to make things. http://www.wiggy.net/ It is hard to make things simple

Re: [Framework-Team] PLIP 228: Restore 'Add Item..' menu on all pages

2008-09-27 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Wichert Akkerman wrote: I guess I'm the first one. I want to propose PLIP 228 for Plone 3.3. Ok, second, Hanno got there first :) Wichert. -- Wichert Akkerman [EMAIL PROTECTED]It is simple to make things. http://www.wiggy.net/ It is hard to make things simple

[Framework-Team] PLIP 238: Disable inline editing by default

2008-09-27 Thread Wichert Akkerman
for newly created sites to disabled. Please note that I do not propose to disable inline field validation in edit screens: that is a very useful and desirable feature. Wichert. -- Wichert Akkerman [EMAIL PROTECTED]It is simple to make things. http://www.wiggy.net/ It is hard

Re: [Framework-Team] random thought: identify the components that lack owners

2008-09-26 Thread Wichert Akkerman
? Wichert. -- Wichert Akkerman [EMAIL PROTECTED]It is simple to make things. http://www.wiggy.net/ It is hard to make things simple. ___ Framework-Team mailing list Framework-Team@lists.plone.org http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo

Re: [Plone-developers] [Framework-Team] Re: Plone 3.2 and 3.3 planning

2008-09-17 Thread Wichert Akkerman
seems to fit with what you're doing at the conference :) Wichert. -- Wichert Akkerman [EMAIL PROTECTED]It is simple to make things. http://www.wiggy.net/ It is hard to make things simple. ___ Framework-Team mailing list Framework

[Framework-Team] Re: [Plone-developers] Plone 3.2 and 3.3 planning

2008-09-13 Thread Wichert Akkerman
those at the conference, providing immediate feedback to the PLIP authors. Wichert. -- Wichert Akkerman [EMAIL PROTECTED]It is simple to make things. http://www.wiggy.net/ It is hard to make things simple. ___ Framework-Team

[Framework-Team] Re: [Plone-developers] Plone 3.2 and 3.3 planning

2008-09-13 Thread Wichert Akkerman
ever written a PLIP during a conference, which is perfectly understable: both of you are way too busy preparing your talks, talking to people, organizing various and socializing. That was true of previous conferences and will be true for this one as well. Wichert. -- Wichert Akkerman [EMAIL

[Framework-Team] Plone 3.2 and 3.3 planning

2008-09-07 Thread Wichert Akkerman
schedule one or more discussions there to discuss these PLIPs, if possible with the PLIP authors present. Wichert. -- Wichert Akkerman[EMAIL PROTECTED]It is simple to make things. http://www.wiggy.net/ It is hard to make things simple

Re: [Framework-Team] Fwd: [Plone-developers] Plone 3.2 and 3.3 planning

2008-09-07 Thread Wichert Akkerman
may spwan a PLIP, or they may not. There is no way to tell in advance. Wichert. -- Wichert Akkerman [EMAIL PROTECTED]It is simple to make things. http://www.wiggy.net/ It is hard to make things simple. ___ Framework-Team mailing

Re: [Framework-Team] Framework Team Meeting in DC

2008-07-14 Thread Wichert Akkerman
| 6th | 12th wiggy | | raphael | | danny | | martijn | | I won't be in DC. Wichert. -- Wichert Akkerman [EMAIL PROTECTED]It is simple to make things. http://www.wiggy.net/ It is hard to make things simple

[Framework-Team] availability over the next 5 months

2008-06-29 Thread Wichert Akkerman
when planning the next release(s). Wichert. -- Wichert Akkerman[EMAIL PROTECTED]It is simple to make things. http://www.wiggy.net/ It is hard to make things simple. ___ Framework-Team mailing list Framework-Team@lists.plone.org http

Re: [Framework-Team] 3.2 Release Manager

2008-06-25 Thread Wichert Akkerman
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[Framework-Team] moving description to a viewlet

2008-05-18 Thread Wichert Akkerman
of the content in places like search results. Perhaps something to consider for Plone 4 :) Wichert. -- Wichert Akkerman[EMAIL PROTECTED]It is simple to make things. http://www.wiggy.net/ It is hard to make things simple

[Framework-Team] Re: [Plone-developers] moving description to a viewlet

2008-05-18 Thread Wichert Akkerman
: it describes what the object is about. As such it does not have business appearing in view templates, especially not in the way it does now. That is a mistake Plone made long ago, and something we should fix at some point. Wichert. -- Wichert Akkerman [EMAIL PROTECTED]It is simple to make

Re: [Framework-Team] Re: Merged PLIPs 184, 200, 202, 203 and 204

2008-03-02 Thread Wichert Akkerman
(so content types, tools, etc). Or when you want the quickinstaller to be aware of your package. Wichert. -- Wichert Akkerman [EMAIL PROTECTED]It is simple to make things. http://www.wiggy.net/ It is hard to make things simple

[Framework-Team] Plone 3.1 update: PLIPs have been merged

2008-03-02 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Thanks to all the hard work from the PLIP authors we have finished merging all the PLIPs in the Plone 3.1 tree. A total of 16 PLIPs have been merged: #184: Include more/improved portlets (Jon Stahl) #195: Support product dependencies (Wichert Akkerman) #200: Kupu formlib widget (Martin

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