Hi all,
I heard from our Kodak rep, and I don't really have anything super helpful
to add. I forwarded her Alex's initial email about upcoming
discontinuations. She said the products to be discontinued weren't at all
finalized, but that she did expect to see another discontinuation of some
kind
APUG, Simon R Galley from Ilford is very active
> representative there:
> http://www.apug.org/forums/forum246/
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> Heikki
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The daylight spool issue is important. I always try to remember to ask the lab
to return them otherwise they keep them and sell them. Eventually they
wear and/or bend, but someone must still be making them. Do Kodak make their
own.?
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> Current manufacturers
> (Other than Kodak):
>
> Agfa
> Orwo
> Adox
> Kahl
>
> What format do you need
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like a viable plan? I feel like there are some labs that might do this already,
but maybe what kodak needs is a middle man?
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Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2014 11:22:13 -0700
From: 40 Frames
To: Experimental Film Discussion List
Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Kodak Film Stocks to be Discontinued,
We're pretty much lost the ability to make magstriped prints.
We have a long way to go before we lose the ability to make conventional
optical prints, although if all four available sound recording films go
away the quality of using another lab intermediate film in the sound camera
will be a bit p
The past couple years I've actually been heartened by the other film
manufacturing companies out there, as we've been working to stock LIFT's store
with options. Even while kodak's offerings are diminishing, there have been a
lot of replacement options (many which have been hiding in plain sight
Oh, yeah, and importantly, soundtracks... How close are we to loosing the
ability to make those?
C
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Thank you. As for the format, I'm still researching.
On 8/30/2014 9:08 PM, Jean-Louis Seguin wrote:
Current manufacturers
(Other than Kodak):
Agfa
Orwo
Adox
Kahl
What format do you need?
B&W color, negative or reversal?
Jean-Louis
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On Aug 30, 2014, at 8:24 PM, Fred Smith
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Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Kodak Film Stocks to be Discontinued, Announced in
December
Current manufacturers
(Other than Kodak):
Agfa
Orwo
Adox
Kahl
What format do you need?
B&W color, negative or reversal?
Jean-Louis
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Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Kodak Film Stocks to be Discontinued, Announced in
December
Well, if 3378 goes away, there is always the Agfa ST-8 replacement.
But I can see 3378 disappearing as project
at, 30 Aug 2014 19:22
Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Kodak Film Stocks to be Discontinued, Announced in
December
On Sat, Aug 30, 2014 at 9:53 AM, Jean-Louis Seguin wrote:
Cheap shot? Maybe. I'm just so disappointed in Kodak, personally.
I meet filmmakers all the time and it's
Edo,
My understanding is all the recent discontinuations happen because the stock is
expiring in the warehouse. So Kodak tightens up its product line by dropping
the money losers. Of course with less stocks to choose from, film because less
desirable to shoot. I imagine that the last stocks lef
The LIFT Store in Toronto carries a bunch: http://lift.ca/equipment/store
On Sat, Aug 30, 2014 at 8:08 PM, Jean-Louis Seguin
wrote:
> Current manufacturers
> (Other than Kodak):
>
> Agfa
> Orwo
> Adox
> Kahl
>
> What format do you need?
> B&W color, negative or reversal?
>
> Jean-Louis
>
> Sent
Current manufacturers
(Other than Kodak):
Agfa
Orwo
Adox
Kahl
What format do you need?
B&W color, negative or reversal?
Jean-Louis
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> On Aug 30, 2014, at 8:24 PM, Fred Smith wrote:
>
> I'll have to admit, I know of no other film manufacturer other than
> Kodak, proba
I'll have to admit, I know of no other film manufacturer other than
Kodak, probably because they have dominated the US market for years. Any
recomendation on how to locate the others for those who are like me?
On 8/30/2014 12:53 PM, Jean-Louis Seguin wrote:
Cheap shot? Maybe. I'm just so disa
Alex Balkam wrote:
> It may be time for Frameworks to consider contacting the higher ups at Kodak
> to express the importance that the less industrial, less Hollywood products
> really need to be maintained during this challenging time in order that we
> can continue to expose young filmmakers
I wrote to the LA Kodak rep (who has always been very helpful) to get her
response about the discontinuations. Will pass it along when I hear anything!
Mark T
> On Aug 30, 2014, at 2:02 PM, Scott Dorsey wrote:
>
> Well, if 3378 goes away, there is always the Agfa ST-8 replacement.
>
> But I
Well, if 3378 goes away, there is always the Agfa ST-8 replacement.
But I can see 3378 disappearing as projection prints become less and less
in demand, and I can see an age where electroprinting returns.
--scott
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On 2014-08-30, at 2:05 PM, Roger Wilson wrote:
> Hi Jean-Louis,
>
> I would be interested in hearing more about these other options for b&w. I
> know of Orwo but I find it hard to obtain their stocks here in Canada unless
> you know of somewhere other then LIFT in Toronto? LIFT carries a few o
ful: soft and subtle, but hard to
>> control in processing. Amazing they're still around,
>>
>> Nicky.
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> On Sat, Aug 30, 2014 at 9:53 AM, Jean-Louis Seguin
> wrote:
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>>
>> Cheap shot? Maybe. I'm just so disappointed in Kodak, personally.
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in processing.
Amazing they're still around,
Nicky.
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On Sat, Aug 30, 2014 at
On Sat, Aug 30, 2014 at 9:53 AM, Jean-Louis Seguin
wrote:
>
> Cheap shot? Maybe. I'm just so disappointed in Kodak, personally.
>
> I meet filmmakers all the time and it's surprising how many completely
> ignore the fact that there are other manufacturers in the world apart from
> Kodak that prod
rent, something new.
From: bolext...@gmail.com
Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2014 12:53:06 -0400
To: frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com
Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Kodak Film Stocks to be Discontinued, Announced in
December
Cheap shot? Maybe. I'm just so disappointed in Kodak, personally.
I meet filmmakers all
This whole thing with Kodak is just so sad--historically, culturally,
professionally, and personally. So disappointed as well.
Tim
From: bolext...@gmail.com
Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2014 12:53:06 -0400
To: frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com
Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Kodak Film Stocks to be Discontinued
Cheap shot? Maybe. I'm just so disappointed in Kodak, personally.
I meet filmmakers all the time and it's surprising how many completely ignore
the fact that there are other manufacturers in the world apart from Kodak that
produce motion picture film stock. Some are truly amazed when I mention
I'm a little confused about the discontinuation of 7203 and 7207 in 100'
rolls. Does it really save them that much at the margins when they're
continuing to manufacture the stock itself and offer it in larger
quantities? If someone who knows more about the way their manufacturing
chain is set up co
Although I agree with many of your points, Jean-Louis, I think that implying
that Kodak doesn't have a "firm commitment to analog filmmaking" is kind of a
cheap shot... when the issue is more complicated than that.
Would hate to be mistaken for a capitalist/industry supporter here but the fact
I wouldn't be too dismayed at the disappearance of Tri-X.
Both ADOX and ORWO produce black and white reversal that is at least equal in
quality to Tri-X. The new ADOX CHS-II in Super8 has received rave reviews since
it's introduction and most users seem to find it superior to Tri-X.
I would pre
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