Kris Kennaway wrote:
On Sun, 7 May 2000, Doug Barton wrote:
I'm going to reply to the system part of this too, replies to this
thread should split off to -current. I have a design in mind for a new
rc system that uses scripts with "start, stop, status" operators to both
upgrade
Kenneth Wayne Culver wrote:
Just curious, but wouldn't this be FreeSVR4??? :-)
I'm going to assume that the smiley means you're joking, but I hope
that we can stick to discussing this plan on its merits, rather than
rejecting it out of hand because it's like something that someone
On Tue, 09 May 2000 10:26:05 +0200, Sheldon Hearn wrote:
I don't agree. I think this is an issue of avoiding changes that
unnecessarily astonish existing users. If you can find ways to improve
MAKEDEV that don't inconvenience those already familiar with it, great.
If your improvements
On Mon, 08 May 2000 15:41:55 EST, Erik de Zeeuw wrote:
I ran MAKEDEV all, but the message still appear. The messages I found
about this on the archives says to do a 'ls -l /dev | grep ^b', and
to remake all devices listed, but there's no device listed when I'm
doing the 'ls -l /dev | grep
On Mon, 08 May 2000 23:53:16 MST, Doug Barton wrote:
Eivind Eklund made a prototype some time back which addressed this issue -
you'd do well to take a look at that one first before reinventing the
wheel :)
Point well taken. If anyone has references to this work, or an easy
About two days ago, I tested a machine with four IDE drives
each on its own cable as the master. All four drives were:
ad0: 29311MB Maxtor 53073U6 [59554/16/63] at ata0-master using UDMA66
I used the motherboard controller to support two of the drives. It was a
atapci0: Intel ICH ATA66
On Mon, 8 May 2000, Tim Vanderhoek wrote:
On Mon, May 08, 2000 at 06:56:03PM -0400, Jeroen C. van Gelderen wrote:
I don't buy it :-). This syntax is similar to a special case of the syntax
of jot(1). It's better to use jot(1) directly, e.g.:
MAKEDEV $(jot -w da 2 0)#
Appart from that, ipf does not load as a kld anymore. And probably, not
tried, the IPFILTER option in any kernel would break the build as well.
Nick
On Mon, 8 May 2000, Wes Morgan wrote:
I sent a note to the committer on these last night. LINT must need some
modification, because the error
On Mon, 8 May 2000, Warner Losh wrote:
Leaving aside the 'r' question for the moment...
Should that be sa or ast? sa is the scsi device for any tape device
(formerly st or mt), while ast is for ide/atapi based tape drives.
It should be ssa and asa, of course :-).
The wt and wst devices
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Jonathan Lemon [EMAIL PROTECTED] _crivait (wrote) :
jlemon 2000/05/05 20:31:10 PDT
Modified files:
sys/netinet tcp.h tcp_input.c tcp_output.c
tcp_timer.c tcp_var.h
Log:
On Tue, 9 May 2000, Sheldon Hearn wrote:
On Mon, 08 May 2000 15:41:55 EST, Erik de Zeeuw wrote:
I ran MAKEDEV all, but the message still appear. The messages I found
about this on the archives says to do a 'ls -l /dev | grep ^b', and
to remake all devices listed, but there's no
Errrmmm Really, did you check the archives for the issue?
There used to be a real long thread on why/why not sysV style init
scripts. It produced not one but several flamewars iirc 8-)
In short - if we change from the present scheme, we want something better
than just stop and restart
On Tue, May 09, 2000 at 08:54:50PM +1000, Bruce Evans wrote:
wst and ast are weird names. Doesn't the "s" in them stand for "SCSI"
and not "streaming", so wst is the so-called-Winchester (non-SCSI) SCSI
It does to me. But McKusick's mail I forwarded says "s" was for
"streaming".
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On Mon, May 08, 2000 at 06:30:17PM -0400, Kenneth Wayne Culver wrote:
Actually, it has to do with the pkg_ commands, which I believe are built
when you make world...
yes.
and aren't part of the ports,
And are only used for Ports. Thus their behavior defines the behavior of
the Ports
Doug Barton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Point well taken. If anyone has references to this work, or an easy
introduction to netbsd's version I'd love to look at them.
There's useful stuff in the rc(8) and rcorder(8) manual pages, but I
can't find any more convenient copies of them other
On Mon, May 08, 2000 at 11:53:16PM -0700, Doug Barton wrote:
Point well taken. If anyone has references to this work, or an easy
introduction to netbsd's version I'd love to look at them. I've been
hoping to carve out some time to work on this, but every time I talk
about vacation, my
Just curious, but wouldn't this be FreeSVR4??? :-)
I'm going to assume that the smiley means you're joking, but I hope
that we can stick to discussing this plan on its merits, rather than
rejecting it out of hand because it's like something that someone else
is doing.
Yeah, I
On Sun, 7 May 2000, Nick Hibma wrote:
Is it only me that ever compiles LINT? The checksum changes went in a
few days ago.
Please, people, when you move code around or change a function that is
used in more than a fixed set of files, compile LINT. If unsure, compile
Will Andrews wrote:
On Mon, May 08, 2000 at 11:53:16PM -0700, Doug Barton wrote:
Point well taken. If anyone has references to this work, or an easy
introduction to netbsd's version I'd love to look at them. I've been
hoping to carve out some time to work on this, but every time I
Kenneth Wayne Culver wrote:
Yeah, I was just joking, I kinda like some things about SVR4, but I still
think it would be nice to keep the option of using some of the regular rc
scripts that we have now. Imagine the confusion of the people that have
ONLY used FreeBSD when they go in and see
On Wed, May 10, 2000 at 01:49:51AM +0900, MIHIRA Yoshiro wrote:
On Sun, 7 May 2000, Nick Hibma wrote:
Is it only me that ever compiles LINT? The checksum changes went in a
few days ago.
Please, people, when you move code around or change a function that is
used in
On Tue, 9 May 2000, David O'Brien wrote:
On Mon, May 08, 2000 at 06:30:17PM -0400, Kenneth Wayne Culver wrote:
Actually, it has to do with the pkg_ commands, which I believe are built
when you make world...
yes.
and aren't part of the ports,
And are only used for Ports. Thus their
On Tue, May 09, 2000 at 01:23:09PM -0400, Adam wrote:
And are only used for Ports. Thus their behavior defines the behavior of
the Ports Collection. Thus it is a Ports issue. IF the pkg_* utils were
ports, how would you install them??
Am I missing something? I thought ports only need
On Tue, May 09, 2000 at 12:12:44PM -0400, Kenneth Wayne Culver wrote:
Yeah, I was just joking, I kinda like some things about SVR4, but I still
think it would be nice to keep the option of using some of the regular rc
scripts that we have now.
What I am prosing aguments what we have today (in
On Tue, 9 May 2000 10:29:12 -0700, "David O'Brien" [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
Packages (ie, those things that pkg_{create,add,delete,info} operate on
are created with in /usr/ports.
Not necessarily, and certainly not in the very beginning. I remember
a number of times seeing a third-party
Did a cvsup on saturday, make world etc and now TCP/IP networking seems
to be broken. dmesg shows the devices, ifconfig configs everything
without
error, but cant ping, telnet, ssh etc off of the server. Even set up PPP
with the same results. Downside to this is that I cannot cvsup to
something
On Tue, May 09, 2000 at 01:36:03PM -0400, Garrett Wollman wrote:
Not necessarily, and certainly not in the very beginning. I remember
a number of times seeing a third-party software vendor who provided
their product in that form, just as many third-party vendors now ship
*.rpm files (and
Update your source again. This has been fixed.
paul
Jason J. Horton ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
Did a cvsup on saturday, make world etc and now TCP/IP networking seems
to be broken. dmesg shows the devices, ifconfig configs everything
without
error, but cant ping, telnet, ssh etc off of the
On Mon, 8 May 2000, Mike Pritchard wrote:
On Mon, May 08, 2000 at 02:10:28AM -0400, Kenneth Wayne Culver wrote:
I have a suggestion for pkg_delete: Very often when I'm deleting a package
(such as kde, after testing the port) I want to delete that package, and
all it's dependancies;
On Tue, 9 May 2000, David O'Brien wrote:
On Tue, May 09, 2000 at 01:23:09PM -0400, Adam wrote:
And are only used for Ports. Thus their behavior defines the behavior of
the Ports Collection. Thus it is a Ports issue. IF the pkg_* utils were
ports, how would you install them??
Am I
-On [2509 11:20], Alan Cox ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
In summary, same disks, three different controllers, problems only
occur with the Highpoint controller. (I believe the Abit BP6 uses
the Highpoint controller.)
It does.
It might be worthwhile to note that there are updates of the BP6
On Tue, May 09, 2000 at 03:24:25PM -0400, Adam wrote:
I cant comment on the complexity of registering a port as an installed
package because I havent read the code, but it doesnt look too complex
according to whats in /var/db/pkg... perhaps more makefile things could
be done to register a
Greg Lehey wrote:
On Monday, 8 May 2000 at 9:57:54 +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Not all non IBM disks has problems, that was not the message back
then, at least not from me. What I said, and still says, is that
Maxtor and WDC has a bad reputation on making drives that can't work
On Tue, May 09, 2000 at 03:24:25PM -0400, Adam wrote:
I cant comment on the complexity of registering a port as an installed
package because I havent read the code, but it doesnt look too complex
according to whats in /var/db/pkg... perhaps more makefile things could
be done to register a
Yeah, I was just joking, I kinda like some things about SVR4, but I still
think it would be nice to keep the option of using some of the regular rc
scripts that we have now. Imagine the confusion of the people that have
ONLY used FreeBSD when they go in and see rc.d and all it's
Yeah, but some ports and projects don't have the same beginning to their
names which prompted me to make my suggestion.
=
| Kenneth Culver | FreeBSD: The best OS around.|
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Hi Y'll
A kernel source file that compiles flawlessly on RELEG_3,
gives (among many others, these warnings:
cc -c -O -pipe -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wm
issing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual -fformat-extensions -ans
i -nostdinc -I- -I.
I just updated an i386 machine after a month to the latest 5.0-CURRENT,
and I now get some strange boot messages:
isa0: too many memory ranges
...
unknown0: PNP at port 0x20-0x21,0xa0-0xa1 irq 2 on isa0
unknown1: PNP0200 at port 0-0xf,0x81-0x83,0x87,0x89-0x8b,0x8f-0x91,0xc0-0xdf drq 4
on
Alan Cox wrote:
About two days ago, I tested a machine with four IDE drives
each on its own cable as the master. All four drives were:
ad0: 29311MB Maxtor 53073U6 [59554/16/63] at ata0-master using UDMA66
I used the motherboard controller to support two of the drives. It was a
Hi Again,
Since you were so kind to me, I will impose another
one on you (the previous answers were _all_ correct! )
Given:
typedef struct junk {
...
} junk_t
volatile junk_t trash;
What I want to do is zero out trash.
bzero(trash, sizeof(junk_t));
produces a warning about loss of
On Tue, 09 May 2000 19:08:21 -0400 (EDT), Simon Shapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED]
said:
So does:
bzero((void *)trash, sizeof(junk_t));
So, how do I make everyone happy?
Put a comment on that line indicating that a warning is expected.
-GAWollman
--
Garrett A. Wollman | O Siem / We are all
The only answer I've seen for this one is to kick, hard, whoever it was
that added -Wcast-qual to the kernel options. Or write your own,
suboptimal, bzero code.
Hi Again,
Since you were so kind to me, I will impose another
one on you (the previous answers were _all_ correct! )
Given:
On Tue, May 09, 2000 at 05:01:02PM -0400, Adam wrote:
Since you claim superior knowledge about ports than me, I wont bother
explaining it. I'm only trying to satisfy your original question.
" IF the pkg_* utils were ports, how would you install them??"
I said that to make you think
On Tue, May 09, 2000 at 04:27:10PM -0700, Mike Smith wrote:
The only answer I've seen for this one is to kick, hard, whoever it was
that added -Wcast-qual to the kernel options.
Or we should just delete it from the options.
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On Tue, May 09, 2000 at 04:27:10PM -0700, Mike Smith wrote:
The only answer I've seen for this one is to kick, hard, whoever it was
that added -Wcast-qual to the kernel options.
Or we should just delete it from the options.
Ugh. I don't actually like that, because it serves a valid
Mike Smith wrote:
Ugh. I don't actually like that, because it serves a valid purpose.
What irritates me mostly is just that there is no way of casting a
volatile object into a non-volatile type, so you can't implement any sort
of conditional volatility exclusion.
You can however use a
At 7:08 PM -0400 5/9/00, Simon Shapiro wrote:
Given:
typedef struct junk {
...
} junk_t
volatile junk_t trash;
What I want to do is zero out trash.
bzero(trash, sizeof(junk_t));
produces a warning about loss of volatility.
So, how do I make everyone happy?
Write a 'bzerov' function,
Sorry to bother y'll, but;
Has anyone ever used that? I see no trace of any kernel
code calling it, and the at_shutdown code appears to be
gone.
BTW, for all it is worth, any caching controller not using
this is guaranteed to lose data.
that can range from 4MB to 256MB, all of which the
Sorry to bother y'll, but;
Has anyone ever used that? I see no trace of any kernel
code calling it, and the at_shutdown code appears to be
gone.
It's still used in the shutdown code; it was meant to be available for
general use elsewhere, but I haven't seen anyone playing with it, so
On 10-May-00 Marcel Moolenaar wrote:
Mike Smith wrote:
Ugh. I don't actually like that, because it serves a valid purpose.
What irritates me mostly is just that there is no way of casting a
volatile object into a non-volatile type, so you can't implement any sort
of conditional
Correction to the below message;
Figured it out all by myself :-)
Thanx!
On 10-May-00 Simon Shapiro wrote:
Sorry to bother y'll, but;
Has anyone ever used that? I see no trace of any kernel
code calling it, and the at_shutdown code appears to be
gone.
BTW, for all it is worth, any
On 10-May-00 Mike Smith wrote:
Sorry to bother y'll, but;
Has anyone ever used that? I see no trace of any kernel
code calling it, and the at_shutdown code appears to be
gone.
It's still used in the shutdown code; it was meant to be available for
general use elsewhere, but I haven't
On Tue, 9 May 2000, David O'Brien wrote:
On Mon, May 08, 2000 at 06:30:17PM -0400, Kenneth Wayne Culver wrote:
Actually, it has to do with the pkg_ commands, which I believe are built
when you make world...
yes.
and aren't part of the ports,
And are only used for Ports. Thus
On 09-May-00 Mike Smith wrote:
On Tue, May 09, 2000 at 04:27:10PM -0700, Mike Smith wrote:
The only answer I've seen for this one is to kick, hard, whoever it was
that added -Wcast-qual to the kernel options.
Or we should just delete it from the options.
Ugh. I don't actually like
On 10-May-00 Mike Smith wrote:
Sorry to bother y'll, but;
Has anyone ever used that? I see no trace of any kernel
code calling it, and the at_shutdown code appears to be
gone.
It's still used in the shutdown code; it was meant to be available for
general use elsewhere, but
Simon Shapiro wrote:
On 10-May-00 Mike Smith wrote:
Sorry to bother y'll, but;
Has anyone ever used that? I see no trace of any kernel
code calling it, and the at_shutdown code appears to be
gone.
It's still used in the shutdown code; it was meant to be available for
On Tuesday, 9 May 2000 at 4:14:01 -0500, Alan Cox wrote:
About two days ago, I tested a machine with four IDE drives
each on its own cable as the master. All four drives were:
ad0: 29311MB Maxtor 53073U6 [59554/16/63] at ata0-master using UDMA66
I used the motherboard controller to
Christian Weisgerber wrote:
I just updated an i386 machine after a month to the latest 5.0-CURRENT,
and I now get some strange boot messages:
isa0: too many memory ranges
...
unknown0: PNP at port 0x20-0x21,0xa0-0xa1 irq 2 on isa0
unknown1: PNP0200 at port
Narvi wrote:
Errrmmm Really, did you check the archives for the issue?
There used to be a real long thread on why/why not sysV style init
scripts. It produced not one but several flamewars iirc 8-)
In short - if we change from the present scheme, we want something better
than just
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