Re: groff breaks make -j N buildworld

2001-04-19 Thread Ruslan Ermilov
Hi! I always thought that ``obj'', ``all'' and ``install'' should be executed in sequence, not together. Hey, this even does not work for bin/cat: $ uname -a FreeBSD dev.lan.Awfulhak.org 5.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT #7: Wed Apr 18 14:07:56 BST 2001 [EMAIL

Re: groff breaks make -j N buildworld

2001-04-19 Thread Makoto MATSUSHITA
ru I always thought that ``obj'', ``all'' and ``install'' should be ru executed in sequence, not together. Hey, this even does not work ru for bin/cat: IIRC, it is assumed that "make -jX install (where X 1)" _doesn't_ work. I've heard why, but I've forgotten :-) -- - Makoto `MAR' MATSUSHITA

Breakage in today's -CURRENT

2001-04-19 Thread Greg Lehey
I've just built a couple of worlds from -CURRENT cvsupped at 2030 UTC on the 18th, and at 0600 UTC on the 19th. In each case, I have massive problems, apparently with the synchronization. Here's some log file output: Apr 19 18:11:34 zaphod /boot/kernel/kernel:

make -jN bug (was: Re: groff breaks make -j N buildworld)

2001-04-19 Thread Ruslan Ermilov
On Thu, Apr 19, 2001 at 05:18:41PM +0900, Makoto MATSUSHITA wrote: ru I always thought that ``obj'', ``all'' and ``install'' should be ru executed in sequence, not together. Hey, this even does not work ru for bin/cat: IIRC, it is assumed that "make -jX install (where X 1)" _doesn't_

Syscons mouse char range redefine proposal

2001-04-19 Thread Andrey A. Chernov
Currently SC_MOUSE_CHAR occupes 0xd0-0xd4 range which produce conflict with several languages code tables. I plan to redefine it by default to 0x03-0x07 leaving possibility to redefine it to any range as currently present. This way minimizes arcane information needed for user to setup its

Re: Syscons mouse char range redefine proposal

2001-04-19 Thread Søren Schmidt
It seems Andrey A. Chernov wrote: Currently SC_MOUSE_CHAR occupes 0xd0-0xd4 range which produce conflict with several languages code tables. I plan to redefine it by default to 0x03-0x07 leaving possibility to redefine it to any range as currently present. This way minimizes arcane

Re: Syscons mouse char range redefine proposal

2001-04-19 Thread Andrey A. Chernov
On Thu, Apr 19, 2001 at 13:54:52 +0200, Søren Schmidt wrote: It seems Andrey A. Chernov wrote: Currently SC_MOUSE_CHAR occupes 0xd0-0xd4 range which produce conflict with several languages code tables. I plan to redefine it by default to 0x03-0x07 leaving possibility to redefine it to any

Re: Syscons mouse char range redefine proposal

2001-04-19 Thread Kazutaka YOKOTA
On Thu, Apr 19, 2001 at 13:54:52 +0200, S ren Schmidt wrote: It seems Andrey A. Chernov wrote: Currently SC_MOUSE_CHAR occupes 0xd0-0xd4 range which produce conflict with several languages code tables. I plan to redefine it by default to 0x03-0x07 leaving possibility to redefine it to any

Re: Syscons mouse char range redefine proposal

2001-04-19 Thread Andrey A. Chernov
On Thu, Apr 19, 2001 at 16:03:01 +0400, Andrey A. Chernov wrote: The has been beaten to death several times before, check the archives... We just add yet one conflicting language - Ukrainian. How many you want to change this decision? Breaking letters is more important than black line in

Re: FW: Filesystem gets a huge performance boost

2001-04-19 Thread Maxim Sobolev
Doug Barton wrote: Alfred Perlstein wrote: I'm figuring the only time when it may be a problem is on machines with a small amount of memory. Since memory is cheap, I plan on turning it on within the next couple of days unless a stability issue comes up. I'll leave it to those

Re: Syscons mouse char range redefine proposal

2001-04-19 Thread Nick Hibma
You might want to specify in the comment what the arguments should look like, like an example. Nick On Thu, 19 Apr 2001, Andrey A. Chernov wrote: On Thu, Apr 19, 2001 at 21:23:57 +0900, Kazutaka YOKOTA wrote: Maybe we should automatically add `-M 3' to flags for vidcontrol in rc.conf

Re: FW: Filesystem gets a huge performance boost

2001-04-19 Thread Maxim Sobolev
Alfred Perlstein wrote: * Maxim Sobolev [EMAIL PROTECTED] [010419 05:48] wrote: Doug Barton wrote: Alfred Perlstein wrote: I'm figuring the only time when it may be a problem is on machines with a small amount of memory. Since memory is cheap, I plan on turning it on

Re: FW: Filesystem gets a huge performance boost

2001-04-19 Thread Alfred Perlstein
* Maxim Sobolev [EMAIL PROTECTED] [010419 06:20] wrote: OOPS, I see. See updated patch. Looks ok. Index: Makefile === RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/etc/Makefile,v retrieving revision 1.248 diff -d -u -r1.248 Makefile ---

Re: FW: Filesystem gets a huge performance boost

2001-04-19 Thread Alex Kapranoff
On Thu, Apr 19, 2001 at 03:46:39PM +0300, Maxim Sobolev wrote: What do you think about attached patch? -Maxim Index: Makefile === RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/etc/Makefile,v retrieving revision 1.248 diff -d -u -r1.248

Re: groff breaks make -j N buildworld

2001-04-19 Thread Ruslan Ermilov
On Thu, Apr 19, 2001 at 11:12:24PM +1000, Bruce Evans wrote: [...] IIRC, it is assumed that "make -jX install (where X 1)" _doesn't_ work. I've heard why, but I've forgotten :-) Right. One case where it doesn't work is installing /bin/sh with the default install flags. /bin/sh gets

Re: make -jN bug (was: Re: groff breaks make -j N buildworld)

2001-04-19 Thread Ruslan Ermilov
On Thu, Apr 19, 2001 at 11:38:49PM +1000, Bruce Evans wrote: On Thu, 19 Apr 2001, Ruslan Ermilov wrote: Attached is the Makefile that demonstrates the problem. Run it like this: make obj; make all Then try: make install And then try: make -j2 install

Atomic install(1) by default (was: Re: groff breaks make -j N buildworld)

2001-04-19 Thread Ruslan Ermilov
On Thu, Apr 19, 2001 at 05:53:53PM +0300, Ruslan Ermilov wrote: On Thu, Apr 19, 2001 at 11:12:24PM +1000, Bruce Evans wrote: [...] IIRC, it is assumed that "make -jX install (where X 1)" _doesn't_ work. I've heard why, but I've forgotten :-) Right. One case where it doesn't work is

Re: FW: Filesystem gets a huge performance boost

2001-04-19 Thread Doug Barton
Maxim Sobolev wrote: What do you think about attached patch? Definitely the right idea, however I'm waiting on input from a couple people on some additional suggestions, so if you'd hold off I'd appreciate it. -- "One thing they don't tell you about doing experimental physics is

core(5) implementation using perl(1)

2001-04-19 Thread Maxim Sobolev
Hi, Attached script forces perl(1) to dump core, which isn't a good behaviour IMO (tested on 5-CURRENT and 4.3-RC). -Maxim #!/bin/sh perl -pi -e "s|make|\$\{MAKE\}|g ; s|^INCPATH=.*|INCPATH=-I/usr/local/include -I/usr/local/include/SDL11 -D_REENTRANT| ;

Re: FW: Filesystem gets a huge performance boost

2001-04-19 Thread Maxim Sobolev
Doug Barton wrote: Maxim Sobolev wrote: What do you think about attached patch? Definitely the right idea, however I'm waiting on input from a couple people on some additional suggestions, so if you'd hold off I'd appreciate it. Unfortunately I've already cvs ci it. :(

Re: FW: Filesystem gets a huge performance boost

2001-04-19 Thread Matt Dillon
: :What do you think about attached patch? : :-Maxim mmm.. I think it would just confuse the issue and prevent us from being able to change the kernel default trivially. 99.5% of the FreeBSD boxes out there are just going to want it to be on by default. We could provide a

Re: FW: Filesystem gets a huge performance boost

2001-04-19 Thread Maxim Sobolev
Matt Dillon wrote: : :What do you think about attached patch? : :-Maxim mmm.. I think it would just confuse the issue and prevent us from being able to change the kernel default trivially. 99.5% of the FreeBSD boxes out there are just going to want it to be on by default.

Re: LINT and NOTES

2001-04-19 Thread Will Andrews
On Thu, Apr 19, 2001 at 10:23:02AM -0700, Jens Schweikhardt wrote: I just wanted to close http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=25030 by frobbing NOTES. While 4.2-R LINT has option USER_LDT, NOTES doesn't have it anymore. Can anybody clue me in why it disappeared? Can I simply resurrect

Re: Syscons mouse char range redefine proposal

2001-04-19 Thread Andrey A. Chernov
On Thu, Apr 19, 2001 at 16:03:01 +0400, Andrey A. Chernov wrote: Wont work, it needs to be in the (IIRC) 0xd0 - 0xe0 range for the HW to DTRT with the ninth bit on VGA HW. It works for years, just making small vertical black line sometimes appearse in the cursor. BTW, default variant

Re: LINT and NOTES

2001-04-19 Thread Peter Pentchev
On Thu, Apr 19, 2001 at 12:23:54PM -0500, Will Andrews wrote: On Thu, Apr 19, 2001 at 10:23:02AM -0700, Jens Schweikhardt wrote: I just wanted to close http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=25030 by frobbing NOTES. While 4.2-R LINT has option USER_LDT, NOTES doesn't have it anymore.

Re: FW: Filesystem gets a huge performance boost

2001-04-19 Thread Matt Dillon
:But we already have sysctl.conf and appropriate rc.sysctl, haven't we? What's :wrong with putting some useful payload into it? : :-Maxim If it's commented out, it's fine. -Matt To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe

Re: FW: Filesystem gets a huge performance boost

2001-04-19 Thread Matt Dillon
:But we already have sysctl.conf and appropriate rc.sysctl, haven't we? What's :wrong with putting some useful payload into it? : :-Maxim Let me explain a little more. If it's commented out, it's fine. But if you are actually setting a value in there you will override whatever is

Re: FW: Filesystem gets a huge performance boost

2001-04-19 Thread Andrey A. Chernov
On Thu, Apr 19, 2001 at 10:39:58 -0700, Matt Dillon wrote: :But we already have sysctl.conf and appropriate rc.sysctl, haven't we? What's :wrong with putting some useful payload into it? : :-Maxim Let me explain a little more. If it's commented out, it's fine. But if you are

Re: FW: Filesystem gets a huge performance boost

2001-04-19 Thread Matt Dillon
: set that default in stone and prevent us from being able to change : it with a new kernel rev. This being a *kernel* specific feature, : we need to have control over the default in the kernel itself. : :What about simple check in the kernel: if total memory is above 64Mb, then

Re: FW: Filesystem gets a huge performance boost

2001-04-19 Thread Andrey A. Chernov
On Thu, Apr 19, 2001 at 10:47:20 -0700, Matt Dillon wrote: : set that default in stone and prevent us from being able to change : it with a new kernel rev. This being a *kernel* specific feature, : we need to have control over the default in the kernel itself. : :What about

RE: Breakage in today's -CURRENT

2001-04-19 Thread John Baldwin
On 19-Apr-01 Greg Lehey wrote: I've just built a couple of worlds from -CURRENT cvsupped at 2030 UTC on the 18th, and at 0600 UTC on the 19th. In each case, I have massive problems, apparently with the synchronization. Here's some log file output: Apr 19 18:11:34 zaphod

cp -d dir patch for review

2001-04-19 Thread John W. De Boskey
Hi, I have added a -d dir option to cp. This allows the target directory to be specified at the head of the command line instead of the tail. This makes cp work much more nicely with tools like xargs... (allowing for major performance improvements over inline shell loops). The patch is

Re: Failed using CD-ROM as root filesystem

2001-04-19 Thread Brian Dean
On Mon, Apr 16, 2001 at 01:27:24PM +0900, Makoto MATSUSHITA wrote: I've tried to use (bootable) CD-ROM as root filesystem (I want have this because it's good alternative of fixit.flp), but it seems that GENERIC kernel doesn't understand where is root filesystem. What I did are: [

Re: Atomic install(1) by default (was: Re: groff breaks make -j Nbuildworld)

2001-04-19 Thread Bruce Evans
On Thu, 19 Apr 2001, Ruslan Ermilov wrote: On Thu, Apr 19, 2001 at 05:53:53PM +0300, Ruslan Ermilov wrote: On Thu, Apr 19, 2001 at 11:12:24PM +1000, Bruce Evans wrote: atomic installation. Atomic installation (but not -C) should be the default. This one seems like an easy task,

Re: groff breaks make -j N buildworld

2001-04-19 Thread Bruce Evans
On Thu, 19 Apr 2001, Ruslan Ermilov wrote: On Thu, Apr 19, 2001 at 11:12:24PM +1000, Bruce Evans wrote: [...] IIRC, it is assumed that "make -jX install (where X 1)" _doesn't_ work. I've heard why, but I've forgotten :-) Right. One case where it doesn't work is installing /bin/sh

Re: FW: Filesystem gets a huge performance boost

2001-04-19 Thread Bruce Evans
On Thu, 19 Apr 2001, Andrey A. Chernov wrote: On Thu, Apr 19, 2001 at 10:39:58 -0700, Matt Dillon wrote: Let me explain a little more. If it's commented out, it's fine. But if you are actually setting a value in there you will override whatever is set in the kernel. When

sound driver breakage/megapatch

2001-04-19 Thread Scott Hazen Mueller
It looks like the recent sound driver megapatch broke (at least) the Neomagic 256AV driver. With a cvsup from yesterday, trying to do play mp3 files got trash that was vaguely recognizable as a seriously distorted version of the original piece. I did some trolling of the cvsweb and decided to

Re: sound driver breakage/megapatch

2001-04-19 Thread User
On Thu, Apr 19, 2001 at 04:02:18PM -0700, Scott Hazen Mueller wrote: It looks like the recent sound driver megapatch broke (at least) the Neomagic 256AV driver. With a cvsup from yesterday, trying to do play mp3 files got trash that was vaguely recognizable as a seriously distorted version of

Re: sound driver breakage/megapatch

2001-04-19 Thread Daniel
I have the same problem on a Sony VAIO PCG-XG38 running -current pcm0: Yamaha DS-1E (YMF744) mem 0xfedf-0xfedf7fff irq 9 at device 9.0 on pci0 daniel.- On Thu, 19 Apr 2001, Scott Hazen Mueller wrote: Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 16:02:18 -0700 (PDT) From: Scott Hazen Mueller [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: etc/* in pending release

2001-04-19 Thread Doug Barton
"Thomas D. Dean" wrote: I am planning to shift a machine from -current to the pending release. I have tracked -current (SMP) on this machine for 4 years. But, now, I need to depend on it - it is old, making a net server. What date were the etc/* files frozen for the pending release?

Re: cp -d dir patch for review (or 'xargs'?)

2001-04-19 Thread Garance A Drosihn
At 3:39 PM -0400 4/19/01, John W. De Boskey wrote: I have added a -d dir option to cp. This allows the target directory to be specified at the head of the command line instead of the tail. This makes cp work much more nicely with tools like xargs... (allowing for major performance

Re: cp -d dir patch for review (or 'xargs'?)

2001-04-19 Thread Dima Dorfman
Garance A Drosihn [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Or maybe something to indicate where the list of arguments should go in a command. Hrm. Let's say '-Y replstr' or '-y[replstr]' (no blank after -y). If no [replstr] is given on -y, it defaults to the two characters '[]'. Then one might do:

Re: cp -d dir patch for review (or 'xargs'?)

2001-04-19 Thread Garance A Drosihn
At 10:08 PM -0700 4/19/01, Dima Dorfman wrote: Garance A Drosihn [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Or maybe something to indicate where the list of arguments should go in a command. Hrm. Let's say '-Y replstr' or '-y[replstr]' (no blank after -y). If no [replstr] is given on -y, it defaults

Re: make -jN bug (was: Re: groff breaks make -j N buildworld)

2001-04-19 Thread Bruce Evans
On Thu, 19 Apr 2001, Ruslan Ermilov wrote: Attached is the Makefile that demonstrates the problem. Run it like this: make obj; make all Then try: make install And then try: make -j2 install Note the difference. This fixes the problem: --- Makefile Thu