Re: Machine freeze when X starts

2003-11-17 Thread Robert Watson
On Sun, 16 Nov 2003, Jens Rehsack wrote: after I updated my machine yesterday to the -CURRENT src/ and ports/ of yesterday (2003-11-15 10:30 GMT), build kernel and world as described in Kirks HEADSUP mail and rebuild all ports, my machine always crashes when I start X. My problem is,

Re: HEADS UP: /bin and /sbin are now dynamically linked

2003-11-17 Thread Robert Watson
On Mon, 17 Nov 2003, Julian Stacey wrote: Richard Coleman wrote: But I think the time for these discussions is passed. current@ is only a concensus of /usr/src developers. /usr/src /usr/ports/ users on hackers@ ports@ isp@ may not have seen current@'s change ? that may make later net

Two panics for the price of one: acpi_cpu_idle *and* turnstiles

2003-11-17 Thread Robert Watson
syncing disks, buffers remaining... done Uptime: 1h25m24s Shutting down ACPI terneRle btoroatpi n1g2. .w.i h interrupts disabled panic: Assertion td-td_turnstile != NULL failed at ../../../kern/subr_turnstile.c:437 cpuid = 0; Debugger(panic) Stopped at Debugger+0x55: xchgl

Re: vinum error: statfs related?

2003-11-17 Thread Robert Watson
On Fri, 17 Jan 2003, Eric Anholt wrote: I'm getting the same (no drives/subdisks/plexes/volumes found) trying to upgrade from a Nov 11 kernel/userland to Nov 16th kernel. I tried seeing if using a Nov 16th vinum binary would load them, but after doing a stop/start, the system paniced, and

Re: upgraded to CURRENT = system is dead

2003-11-17 Thread Robert Watson
On Mon, 17 Nov 2003, Garance A Drosihn wrote: At 10:37 AM +0100 11/17/03, Dag-Erling Smørgrav wrote: Antoine Jacoutot [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Here is what I did: $ cvsup blablabla... $ make buildkernel KERNCONF=MYKERNEL make install kernel KERNCONF=MYKERNEL There's

Re: hit g_provider %p disappeared while tasting

2003-11-17 Thread Robert Watson
On Mon, 17 Nov 2003, Bjoern A. Zeeb wrote: Where the dead pointer comes from is what has yet to be discovered. Do you have an atapi-cd drive in this machine ? No. while pxebooting there is no floppy and no hd and no cf rader attached. fxp0, dual intel card fxp1,2 an ed0

Re: Updated acpi_cpu patch

2003-11-18 Thread Robert Watson
On Tue, 18 Nov 2003, Nate Lawson wrote: Below you'll find the update patch for acpi_cpu. Please test this, especially for SMP and laptops with _CST objects in their ASL. ... Notes: * Add a detach method that disables entry to acpi_cpu_idle and in the SMP case, IPIs all processors to exit

Re: Updated acpi_cpu patch

2003-11-18 Thread Robert Watson
On Tue, 18 Nov 2003, Nate Lawson wrote: On Tue, 18 Nov 2003, Robert Watson wrote: On Tue, 18 Nov 2003, Nate Lawson wrote: Below you'll find the update patch for acpi_cpu. Please test this, especially for SMP and laptops with _CST objects in their ASL. ... Notes: * Add

Re: Unfortunate dynamic linking for everything

2003-11-18 Thread Robert Watson
On Tue, 18 Nov 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There might be a certain 'coolness' WRT dynamically linking everything, but the overhead is certainly measurable. If the object is to maximally 'share', then for shells the FreeBSD VM shares maximally without using shared libs (perhaps there is a

Re: Unfortunate dynamic linking for everything

2003-11-18 Thread Robert Watson
On Tue, 18 Nov 2003, David Schultz wrote: On Tue, Nov 18, 2003, Robert Watson wrote: (2) Shells again, because they will be fork()d and exec()d frequently during heavily scripted activities, such as system boot, periodic events, large make jobs, etc. And presumably the only shell

Re: another trap 12 while in kernel mode

2003-11-19 Thread Robert Watson
On Wed, 19 Nov 2003, Bjoern A. Zeeb wrote: I am regularly getting those but unfortunately I neither have DDB in that kernel nor can get a crash dump nor do I have built wie DEBUG=-g. Is there anything more I can do apart from rebuilding kernel with support of all the missing debugging

Re: Updated acpi_cpu patch

2003-11-19 Thread Robert Watson
On Wed, 19 Nov 2003, Nate Lawson wrote: Ok, here's the final patch. I believe it fixes both problems. Success! The system rebooted without panicking. It even came back up cleanly. :-) In an earlier e-mail, you asked me for dmesg output. I've attached it on the off chance you still want

Re: Updated acpi_cpu patch

2003-11-19 Thread Robert Watson
On Wed, 19 Nov 2003, Nate Lawson wrote: On Wed, 19 Nov 2003, Robert Watson wrote: On Wed, 19 Nov 2003, Nate Lawson wrote: Ok, here's the final patch. I believe it fixes both problems. Success! The system rebooted without panicking. It even came back up cleanly. :-) Good

Re: Unfortunate dynamic linking for everything

2003-11-19 Thread Robert Watson
On Thu, 20 Nov 2003, Bruce Evans wrote: On Wed, 19 Nov 2003, Marcel Moolenaar wrote: set init_path=/rescue/init If dynamic root were ready to be turned on, then /rescue/init would be in the default init_path. The fallback path only works if the exec() fails cleanly without actually

Re: Unfortunate dynamic linking for everything

2003-11-19 Thread Robert Watson
On Wed, 19 Nov 2003, Dan Nelson wrote: In the last episode (Nov 19), Richard Coleman said: I don't really care whether everything is statically or dynamically linked. With the fast machines and huge disks these days, bloat is not much of an issue. But nss and pam need to work

Re: Help request: problems with a 5.1 server and large numbers of ssh users.

2003-11-20 Thread Robert Watson
On Wed, 19 Nov 2003, Len Sassaman wrote: It is my intuition from this behavior that the sshd master process listening for connections is unable to spawn a new process to complete the authentication step, and thus the connection is being dropped. There is no information of use in dmesg, nor

Re: Help request: problems with a 5.1 server and large numbers of ssh users.

2003-11-20 Thread Robert Watson
On Thu, 20 Nov 2003, Ken Smith wrote: On Thu, Nov 20, 2003 at 10:56:08AM -0500, Robert Watson wrote: Hmm. Well, it certainly sounds like a resource limit to me, especially if it's a nice round number like 150 or 300. One possibility might be running out of pseudo-terminals to support

Re: 5.2-BETA lockup

2003-11-23 Thread Robert Watson
On Sun, 23 Nov 2003, Matt Smith wrote: Since updating two of my machines to the latest HEAD I am experiencing a total lockup on one of them. After being booted for approx 3 minutes the machine stops responding completely. It doesn't panic or drop into DDB. The numlock key doesn't

Re: panic in fridays current

2003-11-24 Thread Robert Watson
On Mon, 24 Nov 2003, Divacky Roman wrote: I upgraded from 5.1-RELEASE to current from 21st Nov about 10am CET... after make world+kernel I noticed one kernel panic - I was working for about 45 minutes then loaded if_ep module, then it crashed... (after a short while) 28 ?? WL 0:04.61

Re: Unfortunate dynamic linking for everything

2003-11-24 Thread Robert Watson
On Mon, 24 Nov 2003, Maxim M. Kazachek wrote: MOST people uses /bin/sh only for rc scripts (to be correct, their system uses it). David O'Brien just tried to told, that NOBODY he knows will be REALLY impacted by performance loss, caused due dynamic /bin/sh linking. You will... So, because

Re: 40% slowdown with dynamic /bin/sh

2003-11-26 Thread Robert Watson
On Wed, 26 Nov 2003, Terry Lambert wrote: I don't know what Matt is planning on delivering, but... http://developer.apple.com/darwin/projects/opendirectory/ [...] lookupd is included with the Darwin project and is documented online in Apple's Support database and as

Re: Apples linking

2003-11-27 Thread Robert Watson
On Thu, 27 Nov 2003, David Rhodus wrote: FWIW, even though I support the idea of dynamically linking everything, the flipping of the switch there followed this same pattern. Terry, what are some of the changes that Apple made to have everything dynamically linked in darwin ? Has anyone

Re: Losing ld-elf.so.1 while make installworld, system shrotted

2003-11-28 Thread Robert Watson
On Fri, 28 Nov 2003, Oliver Fischer wrote: Steve Kargl wrote: Did you do make buildkernel, make installkernel , and mergemaster in the order specified in src/UPDATING. :0 Until now I have been doing it always in the wrong order... Thanks, now I will try it in the right order.

Re: no /dev/dsp.x

2003-11-28 Thread Robert Watson
On Fri, 28 Nov 2003, T Kellers wrote: I can't ssh to the laptop at this moment, but if the sound card is not detected by the kernel, can I force the detection by editing /boot/ loader.conf with: userconfig_script_load=YES snd_maestro3_load=YES ? I have that in loader.conf on an

5.2-RELEASE TODO

2003-11-29 Thread Robert Watson
to | | | | | improve the | | | | | consistency of the| | MAC Framework | | | pathnames passed into | | devfs path | In progress | Robert Watson | the MAC Framework | | fixes

5.2-RELEASE TODO

2003-11-29 Thread Robert Watson
[NOTE: This is being resent due to a cvs update error that caused an un-updated version of the TODO list to be sent out earlier] This is an automated bi-weekly mailing of the FreeBSD 5.2 open issues list. The live version of this list is available at:

Re: 5.2-RELEASE TODO

2003-11-29 Thread Robert Watson
FreeBSD Core Team, TrustedBSD Projects [EMAIL PROTECTED] Senior Research Scientist, McAfee Research On Sat, 29 Nov 2003, Robert Watson wrote: [NOTE: This is being resent due to a cvs update error that caused an un-updated version of the TODO list to be sent out earlier

5.2-RELEASE TODO

2003-11-29 Thread Robert Watson
on | || || a lock. Fixing | || || this requires| | rpc.lockd(8) | In progress | Robert Watson | that the RPC | | stability | || code be taught

Re: Upgrade experience 5.1p10-5.2 Beta

2003-11-29 Thread Robert Watson
On Sat, 29 Nov 2003, Justin Smith wrote: Are you running with GENERIC from 5.2-BETA? If so, you may wish to recompile your kernel with WITNESS and INVARIANTS turned off and see if that helps. These debugging features are critical during the development process, but also seriously impact

installworld to DESTDIR: touch: not found

2003-11-29 Thread Robert Watson
I'm in the throes of updating my diskless boot boxes to 5.2-BETA from my 5.1-CURRENT build box. I did a buildworld, and am now doing an installworld to a DESTDIR. cboss# make installworld DESTDIR=/cboss/devel/nfsroot/crash2.cboss.tislabs.com/ ...

Re: installworld to DESTDIR: touch: not found

2003-11-29 Thread Robert Watson
On Sat, 29 Nov 2003, Kent Stewart wrote: This kind of error frequently happens when your clock is off. Make thinks the date of the cvsuped source is newer than the file it created and tries to create it again. Do you run cmos at UTC or local. If local, did you adjkerntz -i. A few people

Re: user:sys time ratio

2003-11-30 Thread Robert Watson
On Sun, 30 Nov 2003, Colin Percival wrote: I've got a system running 5.2-BETA from 27/11/03, with the malloc_abort, malloc_junk, DEBUG=-g, DDB, INVARIANT*, and WITNESS* debugging options changed (as was done in 5.1-RELEASE). When running `make buildworld`, I see large amounts of sys

Re: 5.2-BETA and related ports issues

2003-11-30 Thread Robert Watson
On Sun, 30 Nov 2003, Andreas Klemm wrote: I have a better idea, then we perhaps need something like a wrapper script that is part of the FreeBSD basic system under /etc/rc.d that checks for the start script under $LOCALBASE/etc/rc.d and starts it very early. Hmm. I talked with Gordon

Re: SiI3112 SATA controller problems - status

2003-11-30 Thread Robert Watson
On Sun, 30 Nov 2003, Joe Marcus Clarke wrote: On Fri, 2004-01-30 at 09:43, HaggeL wrote: Hi Guys :) Sorry if i waste your time. I®m a freeBSD noob and need some help. I want to install freeBSD in januar and have some problems. I want to buy me a new harddrive, a serial ATA one,

Re: user:sys time ratio

2003-11-30 Thread Robert Watson
On Sun, 30 Nov 2003, Jeff Roberson wrote: On Sun, 30 Nov 2003, Colin Percival wrote: Robert Watson suggested that I compare performance from UP and SMP kernels: # /usr/bin/time -hl sh -c 'make -s buildworld 21' /dev/null Real UserSys UP

Re: Ports startup scripts in /etc/rc.d (Re: 5.2-BETA and related ports issues)

2003-11-30 Thread Robert Watson
On Mon, 1 Dec 2003, Maxim M. Kazachek wrote: On Sun, 30 Nov 2003, Richard Coleman wrote: snip For 5.2-RELEASE, I think we should ignore the whole issue and let the couple of ports that insert things in /etc/rc.d just do it. We're not going to find any other solution in time to either close

Re: Ports startup scripts in /etc/rc.d (Re: 5.2-BETA and related ports issues)

2003-11-30 Thread Robert Watson
On Mon, 1 Dec 2003, Richard Coleman wrote: (2) Reevaluate the order at routine points in the boot where new scripts might now be available (due to file system mounts or whatever). Essentially insert the new cards into the deck, and shuffle. This requires rethinking of our

Re: -current lockup (how to diagnose?)

2003-12-01 Thread Robert Watson
On Mon, 1 Dec 2003, Jun Kuriyama wrote: I got lockups in recent -current box. This box is my main workstation and usually be up to date kernel. In recent days, I usually locked up. This is not a panic, only locks up. My situation is: o KDE's clock is working. o KDE's virtual

5.2-RELEASE TODO

2003-12-01 Thread Robert Watson
on | || || a lock. Fixing | || || this requires| | rpc.lockd(8) | In progress | Robert Watson | that the RPC | | stability | || code be taught

Re: NSS and PAM

2003-12-01 Thread Robert Watson
On Mon, 1 Dec 2003, Dag-Erling Smørgrav wrote: Jacques A. Vidrine [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: By `the two', do you mean directory services and authentication? They are certainly not `essentially one'. But I suspect you know this and I am just misunderstanding your meaning. They are

panic during shutdown from vfs_umountall()

2003-12-01 Thread Robert Watson
Running with a MAC kernel, about to try booting identical but non-MAC; I'm not able to reproduceit , however. bgfsck may have been running during the shutdown. Apparently the device vnode for /usr is vrele()'d one too many times at some point during the run, resulting in a panic. This is with

Re: -current lockup (how to diagnose?)

2003-12-01 Thread Robert Watson
On Tue, 2 Dec 2003, Jun Kuriyama wrote: At Mon, 1 Dec 2003 09:23:21 -0500 (EST), Robert Watson wrote: This could be a sign of a VM or VFS lock leak or deadlock. I'd advise hooking up a serial console, dropping to DDB over serial line, and posting the results of ps and show lockedvnods

Re: PANIC: PAGE FAULT

2003-12-03 Thread Robert Watson
On Wed, 3 Dec 2003, Ganbaa wrote: I'm trying to install FreeBSD-5.1 on the PC with PIII,512MB SDRAM, 30GB Barracuda II Model ST330630A. But following error has occured. We're in the throes of preparing FreeBSD 5.2 for release, which includes a large number of bug fixes (although potentially

panic: initiate_write_inodeblock_ufs2: already started

2003-12-03 Thread Robert Watson
Ran into this on a box with -CURRENT from yesterday, running with MAC (although in this case I suspect it doesn't make a difference, I'm not using the multilabel/extattr code in UFS2). I have a core on disk, so please let me know what further information would be useful. This machine spends a

Re: panic ia64 r204293

2010-02-25 Thread Robert Watson
On Thu, 25 Feb 2010, Giovanni Trematerra wrote: Try to boot with GENERIC kernel. I think this is no problem because SMP is already turned on in GENERIC kernel. yes, my fault, I copied the kernel config file from my other UP box. All is well now. In fact, my fault. I had a bug in three

Re: [head tinderbox] failure on arm/arm

2010-03-01 Thread Robert Watson
On Mon, 1 Mar 2010, FreeBSD Tinderbox wrote: === usr.bin/systat (all) cc -O -pipe -DINET6 -std=gnu99 -Wno-pointer-sign -c /src/usr.bin/systat/cmds.c cc -O -pipe -DINET6 -std=gnu99 -Wno-pointer-sign -c /src/usr.bin/systat/cmdtab.c In file included from /src/usr.bin/systat/extern.h:39,

Re: propose: all arch move into a separate dir

2010-03-05 Thread Robert Watson
On Thu, 4 Mar 2010, Xin LI wrote: One good thing (in my opinion) that NetBSD and Darwin have is that they have a common tree which holds the common files that shared between kernel and userland libc. Currently we have 2 or more copies of certain files in the tree but I'm not sure if it's a

Re: propose: all arch move into a separate dir

2010-03-05 Thread Robert Watson
On Thu, 4 Mar 2010, paradox wrote: so, I really do not understand why it is so difficult to move a few folders in the shared folder is a big problem as is done in openbsd and netbsd http://cvsweb.netbsd.org/bsdweb.cgi/src/sys/arch/?only_with_tag=MAIN

Re: propose: all arch move into a separate dir

2010-03-05 Thread Robert Watson
On Fri, 5 Mar 2010, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: In message alpine.bsf.2.00.1003050912340.5...@fledge.watson.org, Robert Watso n writes: Doing that kind of rearrangement [...] would be a nightmare for anyone with large [...] patches, so I'd say we could pretty much rule that out outright. I

Re: propose: all arch move into a separate dir

2010-03-05 Thread Robert Watson
On Fri, 5 Mar 2010, Alex Keda wrote: On 05.03.2010 12:17, Robert Watson wrote: consumers like Isilon, NetApp, Juniper, and many others thus, it is not 'Free', this managed by 'consumers like Isilon, NetApp, Juniper, and many others'? These and other companies contribute significantly

Re: propose: all arch move into a separate dir

2010-03-05 Thread Robert Watson
On Fri, 5 Mar 2010, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: In message alpine.bsf.2.00.1003050940290.5...@fledge.watson.org, Robert Watso n writes: [...] it's that changes in layout come with a less visible but much larger cost than svn mv. Really stupid question: Doesn't svn support symlinks ? Yes,

Re: propose: all arch move into a separate dir

2010-03-05 Thread Robert Watson
On Fri, 5 Mar 2010, Alex Keda wrote: thus, it is not 'Free', this managed by 'consumers like Isilon, NetApp, Juniper, and many others'? It might be helpful to think of them as 'customers' who are using our 'product' and paying for it by feeding back patches and employing FreeBSD

net.inet.tcp.timer_race: does anyone have a non-zero value?

2010-03-07 Thread Robert Watson
Dear all: I'm embarking on some new network stack locking work, which requires me to address a number of loose ends in the current model. A few years ago, my attention was drawn to a largly theoretical race, which had existed in the BSD code since inception. It is detected and handled in

Re: propose: all arch move into a separate dir

2010-03-07 Thread Robert Watson
On Sat, 6 Mar 2010, David O'Brien wrote: No, not it isn't. Provide a script to convert path's in the diff. This is what $LARGE_FREEBSD_USER did when it rearranged it source tree. It was done by creating a copy of the CVS repo and moved files around. Old releases stayed in the old repo, and

Survey results very helpful, thanks! (was: Re: net.inet.tcp.timer_race: does anyone have a non-zero value?)

2010-03-08 Thread Robert Watson
On Sun, 7 Mar 2010, Robert Watson wrote: If your system shows a non-zero value, please send me a *private e-mail* with the output of that command, plus also the output of sysctl kern.smp, uptime, and a brief description of the workload and network interface configuration. For example: it's

Re: Survey results very helpful, thanks! (was: Re: net.inet.tcp.timer_race: does anyone have a non-zero value?)

2010-03-08 Thread Robert Watson
On Mon, 8 Mar 2010, Doug Hardie wrote: I run a number of 4 core systems with em interfaces. These are production systems that are unmanned and located a long way from me. Under unusual conditions it can take up to 6 hours to get there. I have been waiting to switch to 8.0 because of the

Re: HEADSUP: zlib updated [svn commit: r205471 - in head: . lib/libz lib/libz/contrib lib/libz/doc sys/sys]

2010-03-26 Thread Robert Watson
On Mon, 22 Mar 2010, Xin LI wrote: A MFC of this update is planned, but we will have to make some rather aggressive changes against the library and more testing. Please make sure that you have at least libxml2-2.7.6_2 in your ports tree before even thinking about updating your ports tree.

Re: HEADS-UP: WITH_CTF now picked up from src.conf/make.conf/kernel-config

2010-04-02 Thread Robert Watson
On Fri, 2 Apr 2010, Alexander Leidinger wrote: from r206082 on: $Subject Make sure to read UPDATING (short: make sure there is no WITH_CTF in src.conf or make.conf). Once any fallout from this has sorted itself out, assuming no serious objections, and pending appropriate make universe foo,

Re: Results of BIND RFC

2010-04-02 Thread Robert Watson
On Fri, 2 Apr 2010, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: The result of the RFC was that bind is not a mandatory component to make a usable system, so you argument suffers from bad logic. With an eye on the date of Doug's suggestive e-mail, I actually am concerned that we maintain support for DNSSEC

Re: [head tinderbox] failure on ia64/ia64

2010-04-05 Thread Robert Watson
On Mon, 5 Apr 2010, FreeBSD Tinderbox wrote: cc -c -O2 -pipe -fno-strict-aliasing -std=c99 -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual -Wundef -Wno-pointer-sign -fformat-extensions -nostdinc -I. -I/src/sys

Re: [head tinderbox] failure on ia64/ia64

2010-04-05 Thread Robert Watson
On Mon, 5 Apr 2010, Robert Watson wrote: In file included from /src/sys/fs/coda/coda_fbsd.c:49: /src/sys/fs/coda/cnode.h:97: error: expected specifier-qualifier-list before 'CodaFid' /src/sys/fs/coda/cnode.h:199: error: expected ')' before '*' token Sorry all -- I'll commit a fix

Re: Switchover to CAM ATA?

2010-04-26 Thread Robert Watson
On Mon, 26 Apr 2010, M. Warner Losh wrote: I've read most of this thread. I think this is cool technology. However, before we move forward with this, we need to have a plan for the various issues that have come up. The plan needs to be specific, have owners for key items, warnings about

Re: power control..(APM/ACPI?)

2002-02-25 Thread Robert Watson
Ditto here. My Dell notebook has ceased powering off. I've been meaning to submit a PR along with the dmesg output (plus some of the whining, I think from ACPI), but just haven't got to it. I'll try to do so tomorrow. Robert N M Watson FreeBSD Core Team, TrustedBSD Project [EMAIL

Re: Are there periodic GOOD tags in CVS for -CURRENT?

2002-02-26 Thread Robert Watson
Hmm. Well, part of the goal of the upcoming development snapshots is to provide that. On the other hand, I think the reason there has been less focus on that of late is that -CURRENT is actually quite stable, leaving aside a few tiny windows (for example, when I broke booting due to messing up a

Discussion of guidelines for additional version control mechanisms (fwd)

2002-02-26 Thread Robert Watson
on whatever suggestions come out of this work. Robert N M Watson FreeBSD Core Team, TrustedBSD Project [EMAIL PROTECTED] NAI Labs, Safeport Network Services -- Forwarded message -- Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2002 16:28:47 -0500 (EST) From: Robert Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL

Re: NetBSD-style rc.d Project

2002-02-26 Thread Robert Watson
On Tue, 26 Feb 2002, Kevin Way wrote: As one of the many people who've done some initial work on the port, I can tell you that it seems to me that there's not a lot of interest in this project, beyond criticizing the work of those who've made attempts to do any work, or attempting to expand

Re: Discussion of guidelines for additional version control mechanisms (fwd)

2002-02-26 Thread Robert Watson
On Tue, 26 Feb 2002, Garance A Drosihn wrote: I think the main issue here is how long the real repository can be locked while waiting for some change to show up. If work can keep going into the main repository, then what does anyone care if someone is tracking their own personal work using

Re: Discussion of guidelines for additional version control mechanisms (fwd)

2002-02-26 Thread Robert Watson
On Tue, 26 Feb 2002, Julian Elischer wrote: On the other hand, you could easily argue that the expectations might be much lower for smaller pieces of work. For example, the move to td_ucred required a substantial amount of infrastructure, but the patches themselves are relatively sane

Re: Discussion of guidelines for additional version control mechanisms (fwd)

2002-02-26 Thread Robert Watson
On Tue, 26 Feb 2002, Garance A Drosihn wrote: That would be me... I meant lock in the sense of expecting no one to make any major changes in the same area of code. I seem to remember you asking for such a lock (to use the term loosely) in July, and the KSE work going in around August or

Re: Discussion of guidelines for additional version control mechanisms (fwd)

2002-02-27 Thread Robert Watson
One of the disagreements that seems to be evolving is whether or not the project formally supports a task-oriented structure. A couple of people have asserted that people might claim tasks (such as myself) and by virtue of claiming the task, be provided with some notion of ownership that is

Re: Discussion of guidelines for additional version control mechanisms (fwd)

2002-02-28 Thread Robert Watson
On Wed, 27 Feb 2002, George V. Neville-Neil wrote: I think we need to avoid the concept of imposing some modicum of structure. If we create structure it is because we need it. Just like software. There was a good comment recently about software gets created to scratch an itch. I'd say

Re: Discussion of guidelines for additional version control mechanisms (fwd)

2002-02-28 Thread Robert Watson
On Thu, 28 Feb 2002, George V. Neville-Neil wrote: What I mean by imposing structure is: - Identify patterns of development and structure that seem to have evolved naturally as part of the maturing of the FreeBSD Project - Determine which patterns tend to result in the most

Re: aliases

2002-03-05 Thread Robert Watson
On Tue, 5 Mar 2002, Adam Webb wrote: Is there a known bug or particular reason I can't add network aliases in -current? -- Adam Webb None that I know of, although there does seem to be at least one bug relating to removable interfaces and dhclient. It might be useful to include some

Re: Patch for critical_enter()/critical_exit() interrupt assem

2002-03-07 Thread Robert Watson
On Thu, 7 Mar 2002, Warner Losh wrote: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Julian Elischer writes: : : : On Thu, 7 Mar 2002, Justin T. Gibbs wrote: : : Then do the right things so it will. : : Unfortunatly that has been proven to not work. : : after reverting the change and silently

Re: smbfs in -current?

2002-03-08 Thread Robert Watson
Ok, I've committed a slight reorg to NOTES on -CURRENT to reflect the much more logical layout in LINT on -STABLE WRT NETSMB, SMBFS, and NETSMBCRYPTO. No idea where the weird ordering came from, but I think it's fixed now. :-) Robert N M Watson FreeBSD Core Team, TrustedBSD

Re: HEADS UP: Be nice to -CURRENT ( 1 week Feature Slush )

2002-03-08 Thread Robert Watson
On Fri, 8 Mar 2002, David W. Chapman Jr. wrote: As discussed at BSDCon, the release engineers are committed to releasing a relatively stable snapshot of FreeBSD -CURRENT on or around April 1, 2002. Obviously, a lot of major components are still in progress, but a great deal of work

Re: HEADS UP: Be nice to -CURRENT ( 1 week Feature Slush )

2002-03-08 Thread Robert Watson
Sounds to me like there are fixes in the pipeline from Mike and Thomas. Hopefully they'll get that committed in the next day or two so that KDE can be happy on -CURRENT before the snapshot. Robert N M Watson FreeBSD Core Team, TrustedBSD Project [EMAIL PROTECTED] NAI Labs,

Re: Keyboard (quasi-)lockup running script

2002-03-08 Thread Robert Watson
I can reproduce this on a 5.0-CURRENT from yesterday, although I do appear to be able to break into the serial debugger. I get the following: db ps pid proc addruid ppid pgrp flag stat wmesg wchan cmd 1955 c9737600 c97790000 1954 1955 0006002 3 ttywai c1bd8074 csh

Re: HEADS UP: Be nice to -CURRENT ( 1 week Feature Slush )

2002-03-08 Thread Robert Watson
On Fri, 8 Mar 2002, Terry Lambert wrote: Garance A Drosihn wrote: On Fri, 8 Mar 2002, Murray Stokely wrote: As discussed at BSDCon, the release engineers are committed to releasing a relatively stable snapshot of FreeBSD -CURRENT on or around April 1, 2002. Will this

Re: Keyboard (quasi-)lockup running script

2002-03-08 Thread Robert Watson
Some more details, now I have WITNESS compiled in... crash1# script ls Script started, output file is ls crash1# crash1# exitStopped at siointr1+0xf2: movl$0,brk_state1.702 db trace siointr1(c185f400,c0446ec0,0,c03a0260,662) at siointr1+0xf2 siointr(c185f400,18,c86c0010,c0230010,0)

Re: Keyboard (quasi-)lockup running script

2002-03-08 Thread Robert Watson
could have been revoked * if we blocked. Robert N M Watson FreeBSD Core Team, TrustedBSD Project [EMAIL PROTECTED] NAI Labs, Safeport Network Services On Fri, 8 Mar 2002, Robert Watson wrote: Some more details, now I have WITNESS compiled

Re: Keyboard (quasi-)lockup running script

2002-03-08 Thread Robert Watson
2002, Robert Watson wrote: Found it: db show locks 255 exclusive (sx) pgrpsess (0xc03dc0e0) locked @ /cboss/p4/rwatson/trustedbsd/mac/sys/kern/kern_exit.c:234 db trace 255 mi_switch(0,c1b2ea28,c9735300,c0232341,1) at mi_switch+0x17c msleep(c1b2ea74,0,15a,c038743f,7530) at msleep+0x31a

Re: New i386 5.0 packages uploaded (and toolchain problems)

2002-03-09 Thread Robert Watson
On Sat, 9 Mar 2002, Will Andrews wrote: On Sat, Mar 09, 2002 at 10:00:10AM -0800, David O'Brien wrote: This isn't good: http://bento.freebsd.org/errorlogs/5-latest/TenDRA-4.1.2.log building TenDRA-4.1.2 on gohan17 in directory /x/tmp/5/chroot/31459 with arguments:

Serial break into debugger broken from 'cu' on -CURRENT?

2002-03-10 Thread Robert Watson
For the past couple of months, I've been working with a set of identical test boxes from SGI which, for some reason, stopped responding to serial break on the serial console. I switched to the 'alternative break' option in LINT, and things work fine. I assumed it was actually some issue with

b_to_q to a clist with no reserved cblocks

2002-03-10 Thread Robert Watson
Just noticed the following for the first time today? (a) b_to_q console message, and (b), the truncated 'Mar' which presumably has to do with syslogd getting killed, some buffer getting flushed, or the like. The b_to_q thing is what I'm wondering about. # reboot Mar 10 18:36:39 reboot:

Re: eaccess(2) breaks execution of 4.x binaries on 5.x

2002-03-12 Thread Robert Watson
On Tue, 12 Mar 2002, Kris Kennaway wrote: Subject says it all, really; this is the cause of part of my problems in getting 5.x packages built on the bento cluster, because it seems that /bin/sh has come to depend on this syscall. Executing a 5.x /bin/sh on a 4.x system causes a SIGSYS if

Re: eaccess(2) breaks execution of 4.x binaries on 5.x

2002-03-13 Thread Robert Watson
On Tue, 12 Mar 2002, Julian Elischer wrote: any change that has to be added to 4.x tomake it run on 5.x is the wrong answer. 4.x binaries should all run on 5.x (unless something was accidentally committed to 4.x that should be backed out.) any change for allowing 4.x binaries to run on

Re: CVS Issues with branch.. Was: Re: HEADS UP: Be nice to -CURRENT ( 1 week Feature Slush )

2002-03-14 Thread Robert Watson
On 15 Mar 2002, Dag-Erling Smorgrav wrote: Bruce A. Mah [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Differences of opinion on naming aside...the branch isn't supposed to last long at all. The point is to provide a slightly polished snapshot to the wider developer community. We can't do the QA/releng

Re: CVS Issues with branch.. Was: Re: HEADS UP: Be nice to -CURRENT ( 1 week Feature Slush )

2002-03-15 Thread Robert Watson
On Thu, 14 Mar 2002, Nate Williams wrote: Only in very rare cases do we run into a problem where we have to create a branch. In that case, the developer responsible for the release creates a branch from his checked out tree (there's no law against creating a branch from sources that are

Re: -current lock warning...

2002-03-16 Thread Robert Watson
On Sat, 16 Mar 2002, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: I get this one on every single boot. We're not shipping the snapshot with that in place, right ? I assume this is from Brian's recent VM locking commit. Currently, it's on the list of commits to back out of the DP1 branch, assuming the issues

Re: -current lock warning...

2002-03-17 Thread Robert Watson
On Sun, 17 Mar 2002, Alfred Perlstein wrote: * Munehiro Matsuda [EMAIL PROTECTED] [020317 06:36] wrote: PS. I got another message that happend when I ^C'ed a buildworld earlier, with same kernel. May be it should go to Alfred Perlstein? lock order reversal 1st 0xc198eec0 pipe

Re: HEADS UP: -CURRENT Feature Slush is OVER

2002-03-17 Thread Robert Watson
On Sun, 17 Mar 2002, Terry Lambert wrote: Garance A Drosihn wrote: At 1:15 AM -0800 3/17/02, Murray Stokely wrote: On Sun, Mar 17, 2002 at 01:08:43AM -0800, Terry Lambert wrote: Minimally, pick a date, and then do a CVS diff against that date, and include it on the CDROM. I

Re: cvs commit: src/sys/kern kern_mtxpool.c src/sys/sys kernel.h src/sys/vm vm_fault.c vm_glue.c vm_map.c vm_map.h vm_pageout.c vm_zone.c

2002-03-17 Thread Robert Watson
On Sun, 17 Mar 2002, Matthew Dillon wrote: It fixed some things, it broke some things. Pretty much standard fare for anyone who has ever done work on the vm_map lock, including yours truely. John Dyson couldn't get it right, David Greenman couldn't get it right, I couldn't

Re: Peculiar(?) slowdown with -CURRENT as of 21 March

2002-03-22 Thread Robert Watson
On Fri, 22 Mar 2002, David Wolfskill wrote: On a 0 - 10 weirdness scale, this ranks about a 4, perhaps, so it's hardly earth-shattering. But it's odd enough that I thought that a small reality check might be in order, in case the effect(s) in question were not expected. (And yes, I

Re: /dev/MAKEDEV not being installed?

2002-03-22 Thread Robert Watson
On Fri, 22 Mar 2002, Sean Chittenden wrote: Just did a fresh install of -CURRENT and noticed that MAKEDEV isn't being installed. This intentional? -sc MAKEDEV on -current is not needed, since devfs creates device nodes automatically. Alright, sounds good/believable, but how do

Re: uma panic

2002-03-23 Thread Robert Watson
I think I've run into this pre-UMA, so suspect it's not a UMA panic. I could be wrong. Robert N M Watson FreeBSD Core Team, TrustedBSD Project [EMAIL PROTECTED] NAI Labs, Safeport Network Services On Sat, 23 Mar 2002, Kris Kennaway wrote: I upgraded the bento package

Re: turning off malloc's AJ by default

2002-03-24 Thread Robert Watson
On Sat, 23 Mar 2002, M. Warner Losh wrote: In message: [EMAIL PROTECTED] David O'Brien [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: : The RE's are wanting to ship 5.0 DP#1 w/this patch applied. : If having 'AJ' by default is deemed not useful (by being removed from the : DP), it sounds like we

Re: turning off malloc's AJ by default

2002-03-24 Thread Robert Watson
On Sun, 24 Mar 2002, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Robe rt Watson writes: With new userland code coming into -CURRENT at a rapid rate, it may be useful in -CURRENT for developers. For DPs, probably not. I don't have to tell you what the 'D' in 'DP' means,

Re: turning off malloc's AJ by default

2002-03-24 Thread Robert Watson
On Sun, 24 Mar 2002, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Robe rt Watson writes: A few weeks ago, I would have believed you. Except that using -J was a workaround recommended in a recent security advisory--prior to recommending it, I ran it on a server of mine for a

Re: turning off malloc's AJ by default

2002-03-24 Thread Robert Watson
On Sun, 24 Mar 2002, David O'Brien wrote: On Sun, Mar 24, 2002 at 12:34:08PM -0500, Robert Watson wrote: Hmm. The argument for A is, I think, is a lot stronger than for J, since it comes without the performance impact, and you can actually generate useful diagnostics. I would be fine

<    1   2   3   4   5   6   7   >