Here is an update I would like to install before 5.2-release.
This fixes the problems that people will run into during
'make installworld' when doing a source-upgrade from
5.1-release or 5.1-security to (what will be) 5.2-release.
To test this, I first upgraded a system to 5.1-RELEASE-p11.
I then
At 9:39 PM -0500 11/26/03, Garance A Drosihn wrote:
I just installed 5.1-release on a sparc64, and then cvsup'ed
to the latest snapshot of -current. Since that update is such
a large jump in time, I was going from a system which had no
/rescue or /libexec to one which builds everything
At 6:27 PM +1100 11/27/03, Bruce Evans wrote:
On Wed, 26 Nov 2003, Garance A Drosihn wrote:
I have reformatted the numbers that Michael reported,
into the following table:
Static /bin/sh: Dynamic /bin/sh:
real385m29.977s real455m44.852s = 18.22%
user
At 12:23 AM -0500 11/26/03, Michael Edenfield wrote:
Just to provide some real-world numbers, here's what I got
out of a buildworld:
I have reformatted the numbers that Michael reported,
into the following table:
Static /bin/sh: Dynamic /bin/sh:
real385m29.977s real
I just installed 5.1-release on a sparc64, and then cvsup'ed
to the latest snapshot of -current. Since that update is such
a large jump in time, I was going from a system which had no
/rescue or /libexec to one which builds everything dynamically.
This gets one into a mess in the middle of
At 9:19 AM -0600 11/25/03, Jacques A. Vidrine wrote:
On Mon, Nov 24, 2003, Andrew Gallatin wrote:
So can we just have a statically linked /bin/sh and get on
with life?
I still think we would be better off using 5.2-release for
collecting more experience with the *operational* issues of
having a
At 10:09 AM -0600 11/25/03, Matthew D. Fuller wrote:
On Mon, Nov 24, 2003, I heard the voice of
David O'Brien, and lo! it spake thus:
On Mon, Nov 24, 2003, Michael Edenfield wrote:
Would it be possible, through some make.conf magic, for
the end-user to set extra programs to be put
At 11:27 PM +0100 11/25/03, Brad Knowles wrote:
At 11:50 AM -0800 2003/11/25, Matthew Dillon wrote:
... Or you can build an IPC mechanism that implements
the PAM functionality and then have programs which
would otherwise use PAM instead use the IPC mechanism.
Which is the
At 3:40 AM -0800 11/24/03, David O'Brien wrote:
NO. /rescue was allowed in the system to handle the case
of a trashed file in /lib[exec]. To allow a sysadmin to
recover a system from the same type of mishaps they could
before we went to a dynamic /. Not to continue to add
to /rescue until the
At 3:15 PM -0500 11/24/03, Andrew Gallatin wrote:
Here is a simple test which times the execution of a null
shell script. It basically times fork/exec of the chosen
shell.
So.. forking a dynamic sh is roughly 40% more expensive
than forking a static copy of sh. This is embarrassing.
To be more
At 8:52 PM +1100 11/20/03, Peter Jeremy wrote:
On Wed, Nov 19, 2003, Lyndon Nerenberg wrote:
--On Wed, Nov 19, 2003, Garance A Drosihn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
have a: chflags ldcache /bin/sh
Shouldn't that be 'chmod +t /bin/sh' ???
Definitely. Why waste a new bit when there's already
At 8:07 AM -0500 11/18/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It really doesn't make sense to arbitrarily cut-off a
discussion especially when a decision might be incorrect.
All I wanted to cut off was the claim that this decision had
not been discussed publicly before. It was also annoying
At 6:42 PM -0600 11/18/03, masta wrote:
Besides, I see nothing preventing anybody from building
their system with static worlds,
true...
and there is nothing stopping anybody from putting /rescue
in the PATH before /bin or /sbin.
Note that this will not have the same performance as the
older
At 6:38 PM -0800 11/18/03, Matthew Dillon wrote:
So you are talking about 1.5 MBytes less bandwidth,
which is nothing compared to the cost of doing a full
install over the net. Yah, yah, /sbin too... but you
get the idea.
Many freebsd users (me for one) are still living on a
At 9:02 PM -0500 11/18/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Of course, there was a development resource limitation,
but the decision (discussion) was made approx 6months ago?
(Enough time to solve the problem without a GLOBAL
performance hit.)
Well, yes, perhaps. But there is that issue of development
At 11:45 PM -0500 11/18/03, Robert Watson wrote:
My feeling is we should all go away for a day or two, and run
our favorite macro-benchmark on our favorite sensitive dynamic
linking-sensitive application.
I wish I had the time and background to implement one solution
that I'd like to benchmark.
At 10:37 AM +0100 11/17/03, Dag-Erling Smørgrav wrote:
Antoine Jacoutot [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Here is what I did:
$ cvsup blablabla...
$ make buildkernel KERNCONF=MYKERNEL
make install kernel KERNCONF=MYKERNEL
There's not much point in 'make buildkernel' if you haven't
done 'make
At 6:26 PM +0100 11/17/03, Julian Stacey wrote:
Seconded ! Better commit an improved switch with
default = Off.
The time for voting was months ago. In fact, we have
been running with what-you-call an improved switch for
the past few months, to give people a chance to work out
all the issues
At 6:23 PM -0500 11/17/03, Robert Watson wrote:
On Mon, 17 Nov 2003, Garance A Drosihn wrote:
Uh. /usr/src/UPDATING explicitly says:
20031112:
[...] You should build and boot a new kernel BEFORE
doing a `make world' as the new kernel will know about
binaries using the old
At 12:21 AM -0500 11/16/03, Jeff Roberson wrote:
On Sat, 15 Nov 2003, Garance A Drosihn wrote:
Or maybe the real problem is that we claim that there will
be no API/ABI changes after X.0-RELEASE, and we've really
missed that mark with 5.0-RELEASE, for a variety of reasons.
If we're going
At 6:20 PM -0800 11/15/03, David O'Brien wrote:
On Sat, Nov 15, 2003 at 03:16:03PM -0800, Marcel Moolenaar wrote:
Provided that we
2. replace the date with a convenient sequence number,
which we can call the minor version number, and
..
E.g.: libc.so.6.0, libc.so.6.1, and (first release)
At 5:26 PM -0500 11/14/03, Robert Watson wrote:
As soon as you recompile libc, applications expecting the old
statfs() ABI get the new statfs(), and depending on where their
smaller struct statfs is located, may stomp on memory they're
using for something else (like critical data structures).
But
At 11:52 PM +0200 10/10/03, Dag-Erling Smørgrav wrote:
Doug White [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
On Fri, 10 Oct 2003, Garance A Drosihn wrote:
For the past week or so, I have been having a frustrating
time with my freebsd-current/i386 system. It is a dual
Athlon system. [...]
It would
At 11:28 PM -0700 10/14/03, Kris Kennaway wrote:
On Wed, Oct 15, 2003, Valery V.Chikalov wrote:
10:21AM up 101 days, 17:12, 1 user, load averages: 0.33, 0.58, 0.44
[EMAIL PROTECTED] uptime
8:22 up 112 days, 17:14, 1 user, load averages: 1,34 1,69 1,72
I can beat both of you :-)
11:07PM up
For the past week or so, I have been having a frustrating time
with my freebsd-current/i386 system. It is a dual Athlon
system. It has been running -current just fine since December,
with me updating the OS every week or two. I did not update it
for most of September, and then went to update it
At 12:48 PM -0700 10/10/03, Doug White wrote:
On Fri, 10 Oct 2003, Garance A Drosihn wrote:
For the past week or so, I have been having a frustrating time
with my freebsd-current/i386 system. It is a dual Athlon
system. It has been running -current just fine since December,
with me updating
At 6:16 PM -0400 8/11/03, Eriq Lamar wrote:
Is there any advantage in 5.1 over 4.8 for two amd mp's. and
if so could someone tell what they are. I am interested in
building dual system using mp's but not sure which version
would be better.
I run 5.x on a dual-Althon 2000 machine. I have no idea
At 2:38 AM +0200 8/2/03, Riccardo Torrini wrote:
Looking into sources I found two close(fd).
Here is the patch:
-8-[ patch ]-8-
# diff -u newsyslog.c.orig newsyslog.c
--- newsyslog.c.origSun May 25 18:46:13 2003
+++ newsyslog.c Sat Aug 2 02:28:50 2003
@@ -1764,7 +1764,6 @@
At 1:39 PM + 7/31/03, Christian Weisgerber wrote:
Juli Mallett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Why go thru those contortions? I sometimes use make FOO= to
define things. -U obviously has a place, if it not existing
means I have to have all these contortions to do a fairly
obvious thing,
At 8:13 AM -0700 7/25/03, Christopher Johnson wrote:
I should probably note that:
-This was done with 'make -DNO_RESCUE buildworld' as per UPDATING
Based on the results seen in another thread on this mailing
list, I think it should be true that NO_RESCUE is no longer
necessary. /usr/src/UPDATING
At 12:44 AM -0700 7/24/03, Gordon Tetlow wrote:
On Wed, Jul 23, 2003 at 10:13:20PM -0400, Garance A Drosihn wrote:
I was going to do some debugging of what 'make' is doing,
but it looks like crunchgen gets confused if make has any
kind of debugging flags turned on.
I just committed 1.14
At 12:12 PM -0700 7/24/03, Tim Kientzle wrote:
Garance A Drosihn wrote:
So indeed, that 'make depend' had not finished before the
'make' for the object had started.
There's another possibility here: suppose two copies
of make are running simultaneously and both get to
this sequence at about
I am not much of a makefile expert, but I have been trying
various changes to see if I could fix the problem with
building /rescue. On my system, a buildworld will always
fail if I specify '-j'. It is time-consuming to try things,
because it takes a while to do a whole buildworld.
Today it
At 6:41 PM -0400 7/23/03, Garance A Drosihn wrote:
Where that error is:
make: don't know how to make
/usr/obj/usr/src/rescue/rescue//usr/src/sbin/dhclient/client/clparse.o.
Stop
*** Error code 2
1 error
*** Error code 2
1 error
Well, that isn't always the error message, but it's always
At 4:44 PM -0700 7/23/03, Gordon Tetlow wrote:
On Wed, Jul 23, 2003, Garance A Drosihn wrote:
The .depend file is apparently created by
/usr/obj/usr/src/rescue/rescue/rescue.mk
and that in turn says it is generated from rescue.conf
by crunchgen 0.2. The rescue.mk file includes
At 4:44 PM -0700 7/23/03, Gordon Tetlow wrote:
I don't see how this construct cannot be parallel make safe.
The requires that the third line check the result of the
second before continuing. It doesn't make sense.
Oops, my last reply got away from me before I was done...
Anyway, I added some
At 8:14 PM -0400 7/23/03, Garance A Drosihn wrote:
So indeed, that 'make depend' had not finished before
the 'make' for the object had started.
I was going to do some debugging of what 'make' is doing, but
it looks like crunchgen gets confused if make has any kind of
debugging flags turned
At 12:34 AM -0400 7/21/03, Garance A Drosihn wrote:
I do know that buildworld finishes OK if I define NORESCUE.
Right now I am running a buildworld that does not specify -j,
and I'll see if that completes OK.
The buildworld without -j did successfully complete. I have
added that logfile
At 9:46 AM -0700 7/21/03, Tim Kientzle wrote:
Gordon Tetlow wrote:
On Mon, Jul 21, 2003, Tim Kientzle wrote:
Hmmm... Is that what .ORDER is for? To work around a
parallel make that gratuitously rebuilds things?
Right it serializes build dependencies. The problem with
crunchgen ...
I would argue
At 9:48 PM -0400 7/20/03, Matt Loschert wrote:
On Fri, 18 Jul 2003, Tim Kientzle wrote:
Crunchgen writes out and runs a short makefile
in order to grab build information from a particular
program. Since /rescue has about 120 components,
you should see 'crunchgen_objs' and 'loop' targets
At 1:58 PM -0700 7/16/03, Matthew Dillon wrote:
:
:Is it real or another troll?
:
:-Maxim
I stupidly misspelled 'announcing' in the subject line,
Well, at least you didn't misspell your name... :-)
but it's very real. Check the site out:
http://www.dragonflybsd.org/
The site looks
At 9:09 AM -0700 7/14/03, Gordon Tetlow wrote:
On Mon, Jul 14, 2003 at 12:40:42AM -0700, David O'Brien wrote:
Gordon, 'make world' times have climbed up to over 1 hour
on a machine that used to do it in 25 minutes. Can you
please commit to understanding how /resuce is build and
optimizing
At 2:29 PM -0500 6/11/03, Scot W. Hetzel wrote:
From: Munehiro Matsuda [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I was having the same compile error, until I commeted out
the BDECFLAGS definition from /etc/make.conf.
Looking into the problematic Makefiles, I've found that
following Makefiles do references
At 9:42 PM +0200 6/10/03, Gordon Bergling wrote:
Hi all,
Since I disable BDECFLAGS in /etc/make.conf this problem goes
away. I don't know if this effects the build process in any
other way. I had enable them around 4.5-RELEASE or so. ;)
I'm not sure what you mean by that. Did you remove a line
At 7:37 PM +0100 3/5/03, Marcin CIEÂLAK wrote:
See the patches enclosed to emulators/rtc
and emulators/vmware2 ports.
Tested only for -current with:
#define __FreeBSD_version 500104
This does get it so the vmware module will load correctly at
system startup, and I think
At 10:48 AM -0800 3/8/03, Marcel Moolenaar wrote:
On Sat, Mar 08, 2003 at 12:28:13PM -0500, Garrett Wollman wrote:
`#if __GNUC__' wouldn't help matters; every preprocessor has to
read and interpret every preprocessor directive (so that `#else'
and `#endif' can be recognized).
I don't think
At 2:33 PM -0500 3/8/03, Garance A Drosihn wrote:
By adding that #warning, you are going to have a compile-time error
on some compilers, whether or not you want it. Hiding it inside of
an #if/#endif will help for some compilers, but not on all of them.
Er, I should note that I do like the idea
At 2:57 PM -0800 3/3/03, James Satterfield wrote:
I'm trying to run vmware2 on a recent -current. I'm getting these
when trying to load the vmmon_up module.
kldload: can't load /usr/local/lib/vmware/lib/modules/vmmon_up.ko:
No such file or directory
Also making an
At 1:27 PM +0200 2/27/03, Ruslan Ermilov wrote:
: RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/sys/i386/conf/GENERIC,v
: Working file: GENERIC
: description:
:
: revision 1.296
: date: 2001/01/14 10:11:10; author: jhb; state: Exp; lines: +2 -2
:
: Remove I386_CPU from GENERIC. Support
At 9:39 PM +0100 2/27/03, Michael Ranner wrote:
I have started to add UFS2 support to Robert Watsons scan_ffs(8)
port from OpenBSD.
This could be very useful!
Makefile, source and modified man pages are attached to this mail.
Give it a try and let me know your opinion.
Well, unless the code is
At 4:04 PM -0500 2/27/03, John Baldwin wrote:
On 27-Feb-2003 Garance A Drosihn wrote:
I'm thinking maybe the 5.x release CD's should include:
GENERIC
GENERIC +SMP
I plan to make SMP kernels work on a UP machine like they do on all
of our other platforms thus obsoleting the need
At 3:55 PM -0800 2/27/03, Marcel Moolenaar wrote:
On Thu, Feb 27, 2003, Garance A Drosihn wrote:
... JMB wrote:
I doubt the usefulness of this. i386 kernels were just
accidentally broken for almost a month and a half without
anyone noticing.
Well, doesn't that suggest that it would
At 6:39 PM -0800 2/20/03, Julian Elischer wrote:
I have just gone through the process of upgrading or installing
several hundred machines, and that includes altering or editing
many config files in /etc. ...
For example syslogd.conf or newsyslog.conf are updated between
releases but they are
At 2:48 PM -0800 2/16/03, Julian Elischer wrote:
I think I could make a case for these figures being extended
to 64 bits but:
1/ is it worth it? what uses them? Easier to drop them.
2/ are these mandated by any standard? would making them
64 bits break anything?
3/ would 64 bits be enough? We
At 3:48 PM + 2/16/03, Mark Murray wrote:
Andrey A. Chernov writes:
On Sun, Feb 16, 2003, Dag-Erling Smorgrav wrote:
Andrey A. Chernov [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Admins with no /etc/opieaccess AFFECTED!
Admins with no /etc/opieaccess IDIOTS for not running mergemaster!
At 3:04 AM -0800 2/14/03, Alfred Perlstein wrote:
* Dag-Erling Smorgrav [EMAIL PROTECTED] [030214 02:52] wrote:
Alfred Perlstein [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Thanks to Paul Saab's work on fixing twe(4) I was able to
get a crash dump from my box
How? I can't get a crash dump in
At 7:01 PM -0500 2/11/03, Garrett Wollman wrote:
On Sun, 09 Feb 2003, Marcin Dalecki [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
Trying to use a compiler different from GCC I have found the
folowing error:
/usr/include/sys/syslimits.h, line 42: Error:
[ISO 6.8]: Unknown preprocessing directive,
At 9:43 PM -0500 2/10/03, Craig Rodrigues wrote:
There is a long thread on the GCC mailing list right now
complaining about compile-time speed regressions from 2.95.x,
with many complaints coming from Apple:
http://gcc.gnu.org/ml/gcc/2003-02/msg00558.html
Whether these complaints lead to actual
At 4:39 PM -0800 2/8/03, David O'Brien wrote:
cc -pipe -O -march=athlon -D_IEEE_LIBM -D_ARCH_INDIRECT=i387_ -c
/FBSD/src/lib/msun/src/e_gammaf_r.c -o e_gammaf_r.o
In file included from
/FBSD/obj/FBSD/src/secure/lib/libcrypto/openssl/e_os2.h:56,
from
At 8:15 PM -0500 2/8/03, Garance A Drosihn wrote:
I'm also getting a number of syslog'ed error messages about
sshd[14235]: in _openpam_check_error_code():
pam_sm_setcred(): unexpected return value 24
with the system I built on Feb 3rd. However, I do notice there
have been
At 7:50 PM -0500 1/29/03, Garance A Drosihn wrote:
At 9:49 PM -0500 1/28/03, Garance A Drosihn wrote:
Hmm, well, I finally got my first actual system panic which wasn't
obviously caused by my own screwing around. On the console I have:
free inode /usr/cvs/net/64 had 0 blocks
panic
At 9:04 AM +0100 2/4/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Garance A Drosihn writes:
I drop out of sysinstall, do some things with that partition, and
then decide to redo the above sequence. Everything has been working
fine, but I'm just testing some things and I end up in a position
where it's
So, I'm trying something on -current.
I boot up, log into root. I have two hard disks on the system. All
of my mounted partitions are on ad0, except for one partition on ad2.
I 'umount' that partition. I run the Disklabel Editor via sysinstall.
I delete that partition, and then re-create it as
From time-to-time I notice people reporting lock-order-reversal
messages here. My system popped up with one sometime overnight,
I have no idea what it might have been doing at the time.
lock order reversal
1st 0xc0514fc0 arp mutex (arp mutex) @ /usr/src/sys/netinet/if_ether.c:151
2nd
At 9:49 PM -0500 1/28/03, Garance A Drosihn wrote:
Hmm, well, I finally got my first actual system panic which wasn't
obviously caused by my own screwing around. On the console I have:
free inode /usr/cvs/net/64 had 0 blocks
panic: Negative bio_offset (-19038208) on bio 0xce51be28
cpuid
At 9:18 PM +0200 1/29/03, Sheldon Hearn wrote:
Can anyone think of a good way to implement an installworld /
installkernel seat-belt for source upgrades from stable to current?
What I'm looking for is a way for installworld and installkernel
in the current source to look for some signature in
At 8:05 PM -0800 1/29/03, Steve Kargl wrote:
On Wed, Jan 29, 2003, Garance A Drosihn wrote:
How about requiring the user to touch some file in / or /boot which
indicates the branch-tag that's acceptable for installworlds? Then
you just need to propagate the tag from the 'cvs co' stage
At 8:59 PM -0800 1/29/03, Steve Kargl wrote:
On Wed, Jan 29, 2003 at 11:21:39PM -0500, Garance A Drosihn wrote:
At 8:05 PM -0800 1/29/03, Steve Kargl wrote:
uname(1) works on both 4.7 and 5.0. This seems
like a trivial problem to fix.
If you use something fixed like uname, then what does
At 8:59 PM -0800 1/29/03, Steve Kargl wrote:
You don't need a special file to indicate what version of
FreeBSD you have. uname -r tells you.
Actually, one thing I don't know is how this would work when it
comes to RELENG_4 vs RELENG_4_0 (since I don't run RELENG_4_0).
What does uname show
At 9:55 PM -0800 1/29/03, Steve Kargl wrote:
I don't run 4.x, so I do know. ;-)
I suspect on a 4.x system, you'll get 4.x-
where is either FreeBSD or STABLE. To distinguish
between 4.x and 5.x, all we need the first character.
So, uname -r shows 4.7-FreeBSD for the security branch?
Hmm, well, I finally got my first actual system panic which wasn't
obviously caused by my own screwing around. On the console I have:
free inode /usr/cvs/net/64 had 0 blocks
panic: Negative bio_offset (-19038208) on bio 0xce51be28
cpuid = 0; lapic.id = 0100
Debugger(panic)
Stopped
I sent this message off about 12 hours ago, and I have not seen
it appear anywhere. Since then I have received plenty of other
messages on the mailing lists (including messages I sent after
I sent this one). So, I'm resending this one...
On Jan 24/2003, Max Khon wrote to freebsd-current:
hi,
At 11:56 AM -0800 1/23/03, Brooks Davis wrote:
On Thu, Jan 23, 2003 at 10:50:01PM +0300, Lev Serebryakov wrote:
Now I'm trying to look at 5.0-RELEASE (I've downloaded ISO
of first i386 CD).
It doesn't work under VMWare 3.2! Ok, it works, really. But
speed is VERY low. I even
At 2:25 AM +0600 1/24/03, Max Khon wrote:
hi, there!
Can we enable using '$' in usernames in pw?
The patch is attached.
Other variant is to enable using '$' only at end of user name.
I'd prefer to go with only at the end of a user name, and I did
have a patch which does that. Now I just have
At 12:53 AM +0600 1/23/03, Max Khon wrote:
On Wed, Jan 22, 2003 at 07:18:44PM +0100, Jan Srzednicki wrote:
Would that be a big problem to allow some fsck option not
to erase all these softupdates-pending inodes, but to put
them in lost+found as usual?
It certainly couldn't be
At 11:54 AM -0800 1/6/03, Nate Lawson wrote:
On Mon, 6 Jan 2003, David O'Brien wrote:
On Mon, Jan 06, 2003 at 10:27:21AM -0800, Nate Lawson wrote:
I'd like to have a mirrored root partition. I tried ccd(4)
but the boot blocks couldn't find the fs. Any idea how much
work it would
At 4:15 PM +0100 12/15/02, Petr Holub wrote:
Hi,
I tried to compile arla 0.35.11 on FreeBSD 5.0-RC1. First I got
following error:
checking for memcpy in kernel... yes
checking if vnode_if.h needs to be built... configure: error: unable
to find any vnode_if script
So I have linked
-su-2.05b#
At 5:58 AM +0100 12/17/02, Cliff Sarginson wrote:
Also didn't someone mention that GCC has got slower anyway ?
gcc is slower at compiling things. This is very noticeable when
you're doing a buildworld. The code which gcc 3.2.1 produces
does not seem any slower than the code produced by gcc
At 3:46 PM -0800 12/1/02, Terry Lambert wrote:
[ ... Partition ID changes ... ]
But as I said, this is rather marginal and I really don't
feel it should go in unless this xor-0x10 convention is
more widespread.
partition magic does this too. isn't the correct failure mode
just to
At 8:06 AM +0100 12/2/02, Riccardo Torrini wrote:
WHY ARE WE NOT RESPECTING THE DECISION TO HIDE THE THINGS?
A user installed the software doing the hiding on purpose.
The software changed the ID hide it, on purpose.
Windows ignores these partitions -- on purpose.
I'm really sorry for
At 7:06 PM -0800 11/27/02, Terry Lambert wrote:
NAKAJI Hiroyuki wrote:
My /usr/sbin/adduser, updated on Nov/23/2002 21:58 JST, does
not call pw command. It adds account to /etc/master.passwd and
invokes 'pwd_mkdb'.
See 'sub new_users' function in /usr/sbin/adduser.
There are two
[to follow-up on what I said in a different thread...]
On my 5.0-dp2 system, if I ignore /usr/local and /usr/ports, it
looks like the following files installed by -dp2 are perl scripts:
/usr/bin/mmroff
/usr/bin/afmtodit
/usr/sbin/adduser
/usr/sbin/rmuser
At 2:34 PM -0600 11/27/02, David W. Chapman Jr. wrote:
Why is this actually necessary for SAMBA?
Is it necessary for all three of these to permit this, or is
it sufficient to (for example) allow it in the group name?
Samba needs a user account for the domain machine account
the machine
At 1:24 PM +0900 11/28/02, NAKAJI Hiroyuki wrote:
In [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Terry Lambert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
There are two adduser scripts. One is perl, and one was written
to use pw and provide the same semantics, in a shell script, as
part of the perl purge that happened recently.
At 7:06 PM -0800 11/27/02, Terry Lambert wrote:
NAKAJI Hiroyuki wrote:
My /usr/sbin/adduser, updated on Nov/23/2002 21:58 JST, does not
call pw command. It adds account to /etc/master.passwd and
invokes 'pwd_mkdb'.
See 'sub new_users' function in /usr/sbin/adduser.
There are two
At 5:50 PM -0800 11/25/02, Nate Lawson wrote:
More info. Someone should bite one of these times. So far I've
got no takers so if interested, please help.
I've got a box that was operational but no more procs (can't log
in). It looks like the nightly 'make -j3 buildworld' hung it. I
left it
At 1:57 AM -0800 11/23/02, Terry Lambert wrote:
Garance A Drosihn wrote:
This is something I noticed while installing 5.0-dp2. I'm not sure
how much we'd want to change it.
The default swap size calculation is done on the basis of a multiple
of the physical memory size. Specifically
I'm playing around with installing a number of freebsd releases on
the same PC, and something came up which makes me a little uneasy.
I understand why I am seeing what I'm seeing, I'm just uneasy about
what it might mean for people who will pick up 5.0-release and start
testing it on their own
At 11:43 PM -0700 11/23/02, M. Warner Losh wrote:
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Giorgos Keramidas [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
: The one case (so far) where this seemed to make a difference
: was libposix1e. It was disconnected from the build by revision
: 1.119 of src/lib/Makefile but
On Wed, Nov 13, 2002 at 09:19:11AM -0600, Patrick Hartling wrote:
I have a machine that is running -current from October 10, 2002. It had
been running fine for about two weeks--up until I had to reboot it.
When it came back up, one of my disks apparently lost its disklabel.
Is there any
At 2:01 AM -0800 11/14/02, Kris Kennaway wrote:
On Thu, Nov 14, 2002, Andrew Kenneth Milton wrote:
Why can't someone with a fresh stable do an ls -R /
And someone with a fresh current do the same?
Because that's only part of the story. What about people updating
from other supported source
At 10:17 PM -0800 11/12/02, Doug Barton wrote:
David O'Brien wrote:
On Fri, Nov 08, 2002 at 08:58:44AM +, Mark Murray wrote:
IMVHO, the perl wrapper should be removed altogether, and the
perl port's use.port symlink-creating feature should be used
instead.
Do we have consensus on
At 11:13 PM + 11/8/02, Mark Murray wrote:
I mean *all* the cruft -- old modules and config files,
deprecated binaries and man pages, even old shlibs if it's safe.
I agree with you, and I was giving an example that a lesser
form of this is already required during the upgrade.
At 6:13 PM -0500 11/8/02, Daniel Eischen wrote:
On Fri, 8 Nov 2002, M. Warner Losh wrote:
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Daniel Eischen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
: All the ports are going to be rebuilt for the release anyways,
: so this doesn't affect fresh installs, correct? It
At 11:40 AM -0700 10/29/02, Raymond Kohler wrote:
I'm now a stable user, and I'm considering moving to current to
get a jump on upgrading and help with the testing effort.
Note that -current is a much wilder place than -stable.
I have some questions about its performance:
1) How is the speed
At 3:09 PM -0600 10/9/02, Lyndon Nerenberg wrote:
Danny And a list of files to delete would have saved many emails
Danny about the GCC being broken when the old headers just needed
Danny to be deleted.
We could add 'rm -rf /usr/include/*' at a suitable point inside
the
At 2:00 PM -0700 10/9/02, Terry Lambert wrote:
Danny J. Zerkel wrote:
And a list of files to delete would have saved many emails
about the GCC being broken when the old headers just needed
to be deleted.
No, it wouldn't.
The same people who failed to read the mailing list, and see the
At 9:16 AM +0930 10/8/02, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote:
On Monday, 7 October 2002, M. Warner Losh wrote:
I think that we need a mtree.obsolete that goes through and deletes
these sorts of things as part of installworld/upgrade scripts.
I think we can greatly simplify things with one firm but
At 10:55 AM +0930 10/8/02, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote:
On Monday, 7 October 2002 at 21:18:10 -0400, Daniel Eischen wrote:
On Tue, 8 Oct 2002, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote:
On Monday, 7 October 2002 at 20:07:37 -0400, Daniel Eischen wrote:
I don't think doing this by default is a good idea.
At 11:29 AM +0930 10/8/02, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote:
On Monday, 7 October 2002 at 21:57:28 -0400, Garance A Drosihn wrote:
How about for each directory, if there are old files found in the
directory then create a .OLDINSTALL sub-directory, and move the
files into there (instead
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