FreeBSD's CUPS / Postscript / Printing mailing-list

2013-07-14 Thread Matthias Apitz
Hello, I'm now and than in the need of discussing CUPS / Postscript related printing questions. In the past there was www.cups.org with a CUPS related bug tracking system and user forums around CUPS. It seems that the server crashed some time ago and it's unknown when (and how) it will

CUPS building error in FreeBSD 9.1

2013-01-14 Thread Antonios Atlasis
Hello to the list, I made a fresh install of FreeBSD 9.1 on a 74bit system and I am trying to install everything I need using ports and not packages. However, when I try to install cups (version 1.5.4), even in the default configuration, I receive the following build errors: echo Linking

Re: How can i disable cups, docbook, gutenprint and other ports?

2012-06-22 Thread Polytropon
On Fri, 22 Jun 2012 20:56:59 +0200, lokada...@gmx.de wrote: > Hi all, > > How can i disable cups, docbook and other ports from compiling after > port update? > I have no printer and no use of cups or docbook. If you don't mind the _time_ required for building those ports (

How can i disable cups, docbook, gutenprint and other ports?

2012-06-22 Thread lokada...@gmx.de
Hi all, How can i disable cups, docbook and other ports from compiling after port update? I have no printer and no use of cups or docbook. *Sorry for my english* Greetings ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org

Re: cups slow when printing from firefox

2012-04-10 Thread markus . hoenicka
Leslie Jensen writes: > Hi Markus. > > If you do a search in the archives you'll see that some of us have > printing problems with Firefox. Some even suspect that printing in Firefox > is broken. > > I myself has not been able to solve my specific printing problems which > include both Fi

Re: cups slow when printing from firefox

2012-04-09 Thread Leslie Jensen
> Hi all, > > I'm struggling with a speed issue when trying to print stuff from > firefox (10.0.2,1). I've set up cups (meta package 1.5.2) on my box > which uses a Lexmark E360dn printer via ethernet. The printer has a > postscript emulation which is set as the

cups slow when printing from firefox

2012-04-09 Thread markus . hoenicka
Hi all, I'm struggling with a speed issue when trying to print stuff from firefox (10.0.2,1). I've set up cups (meta package 1.5.2) on my box which uses a Lexmark E360dn printer via ethernet. The printer has a postscript emulation which is set as the default (as opposed to PCL). I

Re: Installing Samsung CLX-2160 color laser printer on USB using CUPS

2012-02-27 Thread Jerome Herman
r size and orientation, color or B&W etc. They did, then they got bought by Apple... I should make myself more familiar with the command line tool. Still I hope I won't need CUPS anytime soon. :-) No, please don't blame CUPS, it is earnestly trying to cope with everythi

Re: Installing Samsung CLX-2160 color laser printer on USB using CUPS

2012-02-27 Thread Jerry
On Mon, 27 Feb 2012 22:24:32 +0100 Polytropon articulated: > Using a Linksys Wireless-G WPS54GU2 print server (WLAN, LAN, > USB, parallel) - following Jerry's suggestion - I'll try tp > get rid of the USB cable at the next step. I spoke to an associate yesterday who claims he used a USB to Ethern

Re: Installing Samsung CLX-2160 color laser printer on USB using CUPS

2012-02-27 Thread Polytropon
d line tool. Still I hope I won't need CUPS anytime soon. :-) > No, please don't blame CUPS, it is earnestly trying to cope with > everything thrown at him (stupid printers, gnome DBus autoconfig, Apple > Mac OSX and so on), and it is doing a fairly good job at it. I know tha

Re: Installing Samsung CLX-2160 color laser printer on USB using CUPS

2012-02-26 Thread Jerome Herman
On 26/02/2012 18:46, Polytropon wrote: On Sun, 26 Feb 2012 02:42:08 +0100, Jerome Herman wrote: You did nothing wrong, on the contrary. You now have a prefectly working printer. You just need to tell cups it exists. Since # foo2qpdl-wrapper -p 2 -c cupstest.ps> cupstest.

Re: Installing Samsung CLX-2160 color laser printer on USB using CUPS

2012-02-26 Thread Warren Block
On Sun, 26 Feb 2012, Polytropon wrote: On Sun, 26 Feb 2012 10:08:52 +1000, Da Rock wrote: I don't know that I can add anything to the cups discussion here, but I understand you'd rather use lpr anyway. You are aware that the printer will only speak splix the samsung universal drive

Re: Installing Samsung CLX-2160 color laser printer on USB using CUPS

2012-02-26 Thread Jerry
On Sat, 25 Feb 2012 23:03:58 +0100 Polytropon articulated: > I _never_ would buy a USB printer, and I would also never > buy something that doesn't talk PS (or at least PCL). Both "PS" and to a lesser extent "PCL" are becoming passé. You might want to seriously consider "PDF". The better Brother

Re: Installing Samsung CLX-2160 color laser printer on USB using CUPS

2012-02-26 Thread Polytropon
On Sun, 26 Feb 2012 10:08:52 +1000, Da Rock wrote: > I don't know that I can add anything to the cups discussion here, but I > understand you'd rather use lpr anyway. You are aware that the printer > will only speak splix the samsung universal driver language? So any > c

Re: Installing Samsung CLX-2160 color laser printer on USB using CUPS

2012-02-26 Thread Polytropon
On Sun, 26 Feb 2012 02:42:08 +0100, Jerome Herman wrote: > You did nothing wrong, on the contrary. You now have a prefectly working > printer. You just need to tell cups it exists. > Since > > # foo2qpdl-wrapper -p 2 -c cupstest.ps> cupstest.xqx > # cat cups

Re: Installing Samsung CLX-2160 color laser printer on USB using CUPS

2012-02-25 Thread Jerome Herman
On 25/02/2012 22:14, Polytropon wrote: I have a problem installing a Samsung CLX-2160 color laser printer using CUPS. In the http://localhost:631 web-based configuration, none of the methods that are supposed to be used for installing a printer works. The "Add Printer" button lea

Re: Installing Samsung CLX-2160 color laser printer on USB using CUPS

2012-02-25 Thread Da Rock
On 02/26/12 08:14, Polytropon wrote: On Sat, 25 Feb 2012 23:07:36 +0100, C. P. Ghost wrote: On Sat, Feb 25, 2012 at 10:14 PM, Polytropon wrote: I have a problem installing a Samsung CLX-2160 color laser printer using CUPS. In the http://localhost:631 web-based configuration, none of the

Re: Installing Samsung CLX-2160 color laser printer on USB using CUPS

2012-02-25 Thread Polytropon
On Sat, 25 Feb 2012 23:07:36 +0100, C. P. Ghost wrote: > On Sat, Feb 25, 2012 at 10:14 PM, Polytropon wrote: > > I have a problem installing a Samsung CLX-2160 color > > laser printer using CUPS. In the http://localhost:631 > > web-based configuration, none of the methods tha

Re: Installing Samsung CLX-2160 color laser printer on USB using CUPS

2012-02-25 Thread C. P. Ghost
On Sat, Feb 25, 2012 at 10:14 PM, Polytropon wrote: > I have a problem installing a Samsung CLX-2160 color > laser printer using CUPS. In the http://localhost:631 > web-based configuration, none of the methods that are > supposed to be used for installing a printer works. (... snip

Re: Installing Samsung CLX-2160 color laser printer on USB using CUPS

2012-02-25 Thread Polytropon
On Sat, 25 Feb 2012 16:55:36 -0500, Jerry wrote: > On Sat, 25 Feb 2012 22:14:33 +0100 > Polytropon articulated: > > > I have a problem installing a Samsung CLX-2160 color > > laser printer using CUPS. In the http://localhost:631 > > web-based configuration, n

Re: Installing Samsung CLX-2160 color laser printer on USB using CUPS

2012-02-25 Thread Polytropon
On Sat, 25 Feb 2012 15:26:29 -0600, Antonio Olivares wrote: > Hope this can help: > > http://forums.freebsd.org/showthread.php?t=27666 > > There are many things that could be interfering? Done as explained in the thread. Even # cp /usr/local/share/examples/cups/ulpt-

Re: Installing Samsung CLX-2160 color laser printer on USB using CUPS

2012-02-25 Thread Jerry
On Sat, 25 Feb 2012 22:14:33 +0100 Polytropon articulated: > I have a problem installing a Samsung CLX-2160 color > laser printer using CUPS. In the http://localhost:631 > web-based configuration, none of the methods that are > supposed to be used for installing a printer works.

Re: Installing Samsung CLX-2160 color laser printer on USB using CUPS

2012-02-25 Thread Antonio Olivares
On Sat, Feb 25, 2012 at 3:14 PM, Polytropon wrote: > I have a problem installing a Samsung CLX-2160 color > laser printer using CUPS. In the http://localhost:631 > web-based configuration, none of the methods that are > supposed to be used for installing a printer works. > >

Installing Samsung CLX-2160 color laser printer on USB using CUPS

2012-02-25 Thread Polytropon
I have a problem installing a Samsung CLX-2160 color laser printer using CUPS. In the http://localhost:631 web-based configuration, none of the methods that are supposed to be used for installing a printer works. The "Add Printer" button leads to this: A

Re: CUPS 1.5.2 not working, like to test 1.4.x, how?

2012-02-21 Thread Christopher J. Ruwe
On Tue, 21 Feb 2012 00:23:19 +0100 Polytropon wrote: > On Mon, 20 Feb 2012 23:46:52 +0100, Christopher J. Ruwe wrote: > > Is there any documentation available on how to retrieve old ports > > from the cvs-attic? I just don't know how, so that I could test my > > assumpt

Re: CUPS 1.5.2 not working, like to test 1.4.x, how?

2012-02-20 Thread Polytropon
On Mon, 20 Feb 2012 23:46:52 +0100, Christopher J. Ruwe wrote: > Is there any documentation available on how to retrieve old ports from > the cvs-attic? I just don't know how, so that I could test my assumption > that CUPS 1.4.x should be working for my setup. There

CUPS 1.5.2 not working, like to test 1.4.x, how?

2012-02-20 Thread Christopher J. Ruwe
I am trying to get CUPS 1.5.2 from ports working with my printer and I encounter a problem exactly like a bug described in http://www.cups.org/str.php?L4008, albeit with a Kyocera 1030-D instead of a kyocera 2000. In essence, CUPS 1.5.+ is sending corrupted data to some printers and the remedies

Re: MFC 7840W under CUPS

2012-02-17 Thread Da Rock
On 02/18/12 00:22, Jerry wrote: On Fri, 17 Feb 2012 14:14:47 +0100 Polytropon articulated: Think about that: % netcat 192.168.123.456< /tmp/printing.pdf I can do either: nc 192.168.1.100 9100< /tmp/print.pdf or nc 192.168.1.100 9100< /tmp/print.ps right now without

Re: MFC 7840W under CUPS

2012-02-17 Thread Da Rock
hat. They're normally an external computer system designed to do just that: act as a print server (sometimes a bit like CUPS with a web interface) and you can store, hold, print jobs. Graphics organisations still use them, but since processors are so fast these days they don't always

Re: MFC 7840W under CUPS

2012-02-17 Thread Jerry
On Fri, 17 Feb 2012 14:14:47 +0100 Polytropon articulated: > Think about that: > > % netcat 192.168.123.456 < /tmp/printing.pdf I can do either: nc 192.168.1.100 9100 < /tmp/print.pdf or nc 192.168.1.100 9100 < /tmp/print.ps right now without any problems. If you looked at

Re: MFC 7840W under CUPS

2012-02-17 Thread Da Rock
t out that PS still seems to be the format that _applications_ use as output format for printing. Even though especially office applications (such as Abiword or LibreOffice) have a built-in PDF file generator, the printing output that is sent to the printing subsystem (lpr, CUPS, whatever) is in PS

Re: MFC 7840W under CUPS

2012-02-17 Thread Polytropon
On Fri, 17 Feb 2012 23:33:33 +1000, Da Rock wrote: > PDF is not exactly PS, but it does use a subset of the instructions. That's correct, but both formats share essential parts of functionality. Conversion between them is relatively easy. > The other thing you will notice is that its mostly on

Re: MFC 7840W under CUPS

2012-02-17 Thread Da Rock
the format that _applications_ use as output format for printing. Even though especially office applications (such as Abiword or LibreOffice) have a built-in PDF file generator, the printing output that is sent to the printing subsystem (lpr, CUPS, whatever) is in PS format and gets converted to what t

Re: MFC 7840W under CUPS

2012-02-17 Thread Polytropon
s_ use as output format for printing. Even though especially office applications (such as Abiword or LibreOffice) have a built-in PDF file generator, the printing output that is sent to the printing subsystem (lpr, CUPS, whatever) is in PS format and gets converted to what the printer needs by the prope

Re: MFC 7840W under CUPS

2012-02-12 Thread Da Rock
imilarities and shared root with FreeBSD, and the origin of cups (at least the biggest backer). I don't know the value of creating a wrapper for Windows drivers given they use PCL mostly anyway. Main advantage I'd suppose is in GDI drivers... As a printer specialist I stay well

Re: MFC 7840W under CUPS

2012-02-12 Thread Jerry
On Mon, 13 Feb 2012 00:25:06 +1000 Da Rock articulated: > The biggest problem comes with using many interpreters of a single > language. Thankfully pcl works on the majority of printers (network), > and is practically a standard in the enterprise world, so you're > still not marooned with a pape

Re: MFC 7840W under CUPS

2012-02-12 Thread Da Rock
On 02/12/12 23:33, Jerry wrote: On Sat, 11 Feb 2012 23:17:29 +0100 Polytropon articulated: On Sun, 05 Feb 2012 21:21:59 +0100, Ouyang Xueyu wrote: Hello, I have Freebsd 8.2 and CUPS installed and try to print on my Brother MFC 7840W printer. The printer is accessible by a static IP address

Re: MFC 7840W under CUPS

2012-02-12 Thread Jerry
On Sat, 11 Feb 2012 23:17:29 +0100 Polytropon articulated: > On Sun, 05 Feb 2012 21:21:59 +0100, Ouyang Xueyu wrote: > > Hello, > > > > I have Freebsd 8.2 and CUPS installed and try to print on my > > Brother MFC 7840W printer. The printer is accessible by a static IP

Re: MFC 7840W under CUPS

2012-02-11 Thread Polytropon
On Sun, 05 Feb 2012 21:21:59 +0100, Ouyang Xueyu wrote: > Hello, > > I have Freebsd 8.2 and CUPS installed and try to print on my Brother > MFC 7840W printer. The printer is accessible by a static IP address, is > configured in CUPS but everytime I only get blank pages when I

Re: print/cups: CUPS-1.5.0 IPP protocoll issues -> no printing possible on IPP capable network printers

2012-02-07 Thread Warren Block
On Tue, 7 Feb 2012, Da Rock wrote: I was wondering if this "patch", whatever the Ubuntu fellows patched, couldn't be introduced to FreeBSD's CUPS port. Well, sorry about my impatience, but I'm floating like a dead man in the water, since I have to prepare print

Re: print/cups: CUPS-1.5.0 IPP protocoll issues -> no printing possible on IPP capable network printers

2012-02-07 Thread Da Rock
updating cups to revision 1.5.0 (this is the most recent port version and I recently updated/recompiled the port and dependencies for all parts of CUPS either with CLANG and GCC 4.2.1), I get massive problems accessing printers on the network. Most HP printers accept a print job, but after accepting

print/cups: CUPS-1.5.0 IPP protocoll issues -> no printing possible on IPP capable network printers

2012-02-07 Thread O. Hartmann
We use a bunch of HP and Xerox printers across our network, all capable of being accessed via network over IPP protocoall (so they claim). Printing worked for me flawless on FreeBSD 8.2-STABLE, 9.0-CURRENT, now 9.0-STABLE on all boxes in question. Since updating cups to revision 1.5.0 (this is

Re: MFC 7840W under CUPS

2012-02-06 Thread Da Rock
On 02/06/12 22:21, Jerry wrote: On Sun, 05 Feb 2012 21:21:59 +0100 Ouyang Xueyu articulated: Hello, I have Freebsd 8.2 and CUPS installed and try to print on my Brother MFC 7840W printer. The printer is accessible by a static IP address, is configured in CUPS but everytime I only get blank

Re: MFC 7840W under CUPS

2012-02-06 Thread Jerry
On Sun, 05 Feb 2012 21:21:59 +0100 Ouyang Xueyu articulated: > Hello, > > I have Freebsd 8.2 and CUPS installed and try to print on my Brother > MFC 7840W printer. The printer is accessible by a static IP address, > is configured in CUPS but everytime I only get blank pages when

Re: MFC 7840W under CUPS

2012-02-05 Thread Da Rock
On 02/06/12 06:21, Ouyang Xueyu wrote: Hello, I have Freebsd 8.2 and CUPS installed and try to print on my Brother MFC 7840W printer. The printer is accessible by a static IP address, is configured in CUPS but everytime I only get blank pages when I'm trying to print. Does anybody k

MFC 7840W under CUPS

2012-02-05 Thread Ouyang Xueyu
Hello, I have Freebsd 8.2 and CUPS installed and try to print on my Brother MFC 7840W printer. The printer is accessible by a static IP address, is configured in CUPS but everytime I only get blank pages when I'm trying to print. Does anybody know a solution for this behaviou

Re: CUPS and IPP/JD/LPD

2011-12-08 Thread Sergio de Almeida Lenzi
Em Qui, 2011-12-08 às 10:40 -0600, Ryan Coleman escreveu: > I have a printer that doesn't support IPP. The leasing agency wants to charge > me $1400 to "install" the Postcript driver on it but I'm looking at another > solution, if possible: CUPS. > > I hav

RE: CUPS and IPP/JD/LPD

2011-12-08 Thread Patrick Mahan
>-Original Message- >From: Ryan Coleman [mailto:edi...@d3photography.com] >Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2011 9:24 AM >To: Patrick Mahan >Cc: FreeBSD Questions >Subject: Re: CUPS and IPP/JD/LPD > >Definitely Postscript. > With CUPS, I'm don't remember

RE: CUPS and IPP/JD/LPD

2011-12-08 Thread Patrick Mahan
>-Original Message- >From: Ryan Coleman [mailto:edi...@d3photography.com] >Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2011 9:03 AM >To: Patrick Mahan >Cc: FreeBSD Questions >Subject: Re: CUPS and IPP/JD/LPD > >I keep getting garbage text when I connect to my Lanier here at work.

Re: CUPS and IPP/JD/LPD

2011-12-08 Thread Ryan Coleman
>> To: FreeBSD Questions >> Subject: CUPS and IPP/JD/LPD >> >> I have a printer that doesn't support IPP. The leasing agency wants to >> charge me $1400 to "install" the Postcript driver on it but I'm looking at >> another solution, if possib

RE: CUPS and IPP/JD/LPD

2011-12-08 Thread Patrick Mahan
>-Original Message- >From: owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd- >questi...@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Ryan Coleman >Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2011 8:41 AM >To: FreeBSD Questions >Subject: CUPS and IPP/JD/LPD > >I have a printer that doesn&#x

Re: CUPS and IPP/JD/LPD

2011-12-08 Thread Ryan Coleman
gt;> From: owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd- >> questi...@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Ryan Coleman >> Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2011 8:41 AM >> To: FreeBSD Questions >> Subject: CUPS and IPP/JD/LPD >> >> I have a printer that doesn'

CUPS and IPP/JD/LPD

2011-12-08 Thread Ryan Coleman
I have a printer that doesn't support IPP. The leasing agency wants to charge me $1400 to "install" the Postcript driver on it but I'm looking at another solution, if possible: CUPS. I have a MacBook and we have a number of iOS devices around the office here that people w

qt4-cups

2011-11-19 Thread ajtiM
I decided to install FreeBSD 9.0 RC-2. I like to have KDE4 as I have now and my question is: Do I need to have in the make.conf still QT4_OPTIONS=CUPS Thank you. Mitja http://jpgmag.com/people/lumiwa ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing

No color on CUPS

2011-11-06 Thread James Colannino
Hey everyone, I hope this is FreeBSD-specific enough for this list... Ever since moving to FreeBSD, I haven't been able to use color on my color laserjet. I've tried selecting just about every color laserjet model from the web interface to CUPS that I can think of, and the

Re: Fast personal printing _without_ CUPS

2011-10-31 Thread Ian Smith
In freebsd-questions Digest, Vol 386, Issue 9, Message: 5 On Sat, 29 Oct 2011 07:28:24 -0400 Jerry wrote: > On Fri, 28 Oct 2011 17:27:03 -0500 (CDT) > Robert Bonomi articulated: > > > Your insistance on trying to impose -your- standards on the world, and > > denying them the 'freedom of choi

Re: Fast personal printing _without_ CUPS

2011-10-30 Thread Polytropon
On Sun, 30 Oct 2011 09:48:08 -0400, Jerry wrote: > On Sun, 30 Oct 2011 13:59:58 +0100 > C. P. Ghost articulated: > > > On Sun, Oct 30, 2011 at 1:13 PM, Jerry wrote: > > > The biggest loser in this is FreeBSD itself. Virtually any new PC or > > > laptop, with the exception of the bargain basement

Re: Fast personal printing _without_ CUPS

2011-10-30 Thread Jerry
On Sun, 30 Oct 2011 13:59:58 +0100 C. P. Ghost articulated: > On Sun, Oct 30, 2011 at 1:13 PM, Jerry wrote: > > The biggest loser in this is FreeBSD itself. Virtually any new PC or > > laptop, with the exception of the bargain basement brands, and even > > some of them are exempt, now come with "

Re: Fast personal printing _without_ CUPS

2011-10-30 Thread C. P. Ghost
On Sun, Oct 30, 2011 at 1:13 PM, Jerry wrote: > The biggest loser in this is FreeBSD itself. Virtually any new PC or > laptop, with the exception of the bargain basement brands, and even > some of them are exempt, now come with "N" protocol wireless devices. Instead of devoting so much time and e

Re: Fast personal printing _without_ CUPS

2011-10-30 Thread Jerry
On Sun, 30 Oct 2011 08:25:11 + Frank Shute articulated: > On Sat, Oct 29, 2011 at 07:28:24AM -0400, Jerry wrote: > > > > You cannot even get a decent "N - protocol" wireless device, or even > > a not so decent one for that matter, to work on FreeBSD while the > > rest of the world has had work

Re: Fast personal printing _without_ CUPS

2011-10-30 Thread Frank Shute
On Sat, Oct 29, 2011 at 07:28:24AM -0400, Jerry wrote: > > You cannot even get a decent "N - protocol" wireless device, or even > a not so decent one for that matter, to work on FreeBSD while the > rest of the world has had working solutions for 5 years. What the > hell are they waiting for -- the

Re: Fast personal printing _without_ CUPS

2011-10-29 Thread Robert Bonomi
> From owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org Sat Oct 29 06:29:33 2011 > Date: Sat, 29 Oct 2011 07:28:24 -0400 > From: Jerry > To: FreeBSD > Subject: Re: Fast personal printing _without_ CUPS > > On Fri, 28 Oct 2011 17:27:03 -0500 (CDT) > Robert Bonomi articulated: > &g

Re: Fast personal printing _without_ CUPS

2011-10-29 Thread Warren Block
While political and economic issues are important, most of them are not directly relevant to the freebsd-questions mailing list, and reduce the usefulness of the list in helping people get answers to questions about FreeBSD. Please continue such subjects somewhere else, like private email or

Re: Fast personal printing _without_ CUPS

2011-10-29 Thread Jerry
On Fri, 28 Oct 2011 17:27:03 -0500 (CDT) Robert Bonomi articulated: > Your insistance on trying to impose -your- standards on the world, and > denying them the 'freedom of choice' to make their own decisions on > the matter -- e.g. "anyone offering such products should be to some > degree held leg

Re: Fast personal printing _without_ CUPS

2011-10-29 Thread Thomas Mueller
> > Then I have to portupgrade hplip and dependencies (portupgrade > > -r ...) or the portmaster equivalent. > Welcome to the wonderful world of printing on FreeBSD. By the way, is > the time you are investing in this venture considered billable hours or > just self-flagellation? > -- > Jerry ?

Re: Fast personal printing _without_ CUPS

2011-10-28 Thread Randy Pratt
folks, other than just me. > > I'm impatient by nature, and I don't like CUPS. (I would say that I hate > it, but I don't actually feel that strongly.) > > I have two personal workstations. When I say "personal" I mean it. I'm > the only one who ever

Re: Fast personal printing _without_ CUPS

2011-10-28 Thread Robert Bonomi
On Sat, 29 Oct 2011 00:44:59 +0200, Polytropon wrote > > On Fri, 28 Oct 2011 17:27:03 -0500 (CDT), Robert Bonomi wrote: > > Your insistance on trying to impose -your- standards on the world, and > > denying them the 'freedom of choice' to make their own decisions on the > > matter -- e.g. "anyon

Re: Fast personal printing _without_ CUPS

2011-10-28 Thread perryh
Warren Block wrote: > A better example would be a web browser or word processor. The > program stops responding to further input until the printer has > received the entire print job. This bothered people enough that > they came up with lpd/lpr ... Back when lpr/lpd were first written, it was

Re: Fast personal printing _without_ CUPS

2011-10-28 Thread Polytropon
On Fri, 28 Oct 2011 17:27:03 -0500 (CDT), Robert Bonomi wrote: > Your insistance on trying to impose -your- standards on the world, and > denying them the 'freedom of choice' to make their own decisions on the > matter -- e.g. "anyone offering such products should be to some degree > held legally

Re: Fast personal printing _without_ CUPS

2011-10-28 Thread Christopher J. Ruwe
On Fri, 28 Oct 2011 17:54:01 -0400 Jerry wrote: > On Fri, 28 Oct 2011 16:35:20 -0500 (CDT) > Robert Bonomi articulated: > > > > > On Fri, 28 Oct 2011 16:04:19 -0400, Jerry > > pontificated: > > > > > > I buy my cars from known corporations and not the local chop-shop. > > > My drugs come form

Re: Fast personal printing _without_ CUPS

2011-10-28 Thread Robert Bonomi
On Fri, 28 Oct 2011 17:54:01 -0400 Jerry supersciliously ponftificated: > > On Fri, 28 Oct 2011 16:35:20 -0500 (CDT) > Robert Bonomi articulated: > > > > > On Fri, 28 Oct 2011 16:04:19 -0400, Jerry > > pontificated: > > > > > > I buy my cars from known corporations and not the local chop-shop.

Re: Fast personal printing _without_ CUPS

2011-10-28 Thread Polytropon
On Fri, 28 Oct 2011 17:54:01 -0400, Jerry wrote: > Remember the adage: "You get what you pay for." That's often true - especially in the home consumer market you mostly get crap, this is what you pay for. But in some cases, you can't control _what_ you get just per payment, means: Just because it

Re: Fast personal printing _without_ CUPS

2011-10-28 Thread Jerry
On Fri, 28 Oct 2011 16:17:46 -0500 (CDT) Robert Bonomi articulated: > P.S. If _anybody_ wants to accuse me of 'name-calling', note well > that Jerry started it, and without any provocation. "Mommy.mommy, come quick. The boy next door is picking on me." -- Jerry ✌ jerry+f...@seibercom.net Discl

Re: Fast personal printing _without_ CUPS

2011-10-28 Thread Jerry
On Fri, 28 Oct 2011 16:35:20 -0500 (CDT) Robert Bonomi articulated: > > On Fri, 28 Oct 2011 16:04:19 -0400, Jerry > pontificated: > > > > I buy my cars from known corporations and not the local chop-shop. > > My drugs come form known pharmaceutical corporations and not the > > local pusher. I li

Re: Fast personal printing _without_ CUPS

2011-10-28 Thread Robert Bonomi
On Fri, 28 Oct 2011 16:04:19 -0400, Jerry pontificated: > > I buy my cars from known corporations and not the local chop-shop. My > drugs come form known pharmaceutical corporations and not the local > pusher. I like my device specific codes to come from those best able to > supply them, the OEM.

Re: Fast personal printing _without_ CUPS

2011-10-28 Thread Polytropon
On Fri, 28 Oct 2011 16:04:19 -0400, Jerry wrote: > On Fri, 28 Oct 2011 21:12:54 +0200 > Polytropon articulated: > > > So let me make this more clear: IF the hardware manufacturer > > wants to allow developers to write drivers for their hardware > > for free, THEN everything they'd have to do is to

Re: Fast personal printing _without_ CUPS

2011-10-28 Thread Jerry
On Fri, 28 Oct 2011 13:14:26 -0700 Chuck Swiger articulated: > On Oct 28, 2011, at 1:04 PM, Jerry wrote: > > Check out "MOVED" in the ports. There are numerous applications that > > are just abandoned or discontinued. If something breaks I want > > someone to contact. I realize that is not the Ope

Re: Fast personal printing _without_ CUPS

2011-10-28 Thread Chuck Swiger
On Oct 28, 2011, at 1:04 PM, Jerry wrote: > Check out "MOVED" in the ports. There are numerous applications that > are just abandoned or discontinued. If something breaks I want someone > to contact. I realize that is not the Open Source way however. The > thought of someone actually being responsi

Re: Fast personal printing _without_ CUPS

2011-10-28 Thread Jerry
On Fri, 28 Oct 2011 21:12:54 +0200 Polytropon articulated: > So let me make this more clear: IF the hardware manufacturer > wants to allow developers to write drivers for their hardware > for free, THEN everything they'd have to do is to publish the > control codes for the sheet feeder and the ink

Re: Fast personal printing _without_ CUPS

2011-10-28 Thread Polytropon
On Fri, 28 Oct 2011 06:36:20 -0400, Jerry wrote: > Welcome to the wonderful world of printing on FreeBSD. By the way, is > the time you are investing in this venture considered billable hours or > just self-flagellation? Maybe you can also ask the other way round: BEFORE I buy a product, I ask: D

Re: Fast personal printing _without_ CUPS

2011-10-28 Thread Polytropon
On Fri, 28 Oct 2011 00:53:44 -0600 (MDT), Warren Block wrote: > A better example would be a web browser or word processor. The program > stops responding to further input until the printer has received the > entire print job. This bothered people enough that they came up with > lpd/lpr, which

Re: Fast personal printing _without_ CUPS

2011-10-28 Thread Warren Block
On Fri, 28 Oct 2011, Daniel Feenberg wrote: On Thu, 27 Oct 2011, Mark Felder wrote: You've just made me a happy, happy user. I always wondered what it would take to get rid of CUPS, and today I've done it. Finally my print jobs are instantaneous here at work instead of being a myst

Re: Fast personal printing _without_ CUPS

2011-10-28 Thread Daniel Feenberg
On Thu, 27 Oct 2011, Mark Felder wrote: You've just made me a happy, happy user. I always wondered what it would take to get rid of CUPS, and today I've done it. Finally my print jobs are instantaneous here at work instead of being a mystery. Can't wait to go home and do t

Re: Fast personal printing _without_ CUPS

2011-10-28 Thread Jerry
On Thu, 27 Oct 2011 19:09:05 -0500 (CDT) Robert Bonomi articulated: > > From owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org Thu Oct 27 16:46:51 2011 > > Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2011 17:46:21 -0400 > > From: Jerry > > To: FreeBSD > > Subject: Re: Fast personal printing _without_ CU

Re: Fast personal printing _without_ CUPS

2011-10-28 Thread Jerry
On Fri, 28 Oct 2011 08:08:07 + (GMT) Thomas Mueller articulated: > from Mark Felder : > > > You've just made me a happy, happy user. I always wondered what it > > would take to get rid of CUPS, and today I've done it. Finally my > > print jobs are instantan

Re: Fast personal printing _without_ CUPS

2011-10-28 Thread Thomas Mueller
from Mark Felder : > You've just made me a happy, happy user. I always wondered what it would > take to get rid of CUPS, and today I've done it. Finally my print jobs are > instantaneous here at work instead of being a mystery. Can't wait to go > home and do the

Re: Fast personal printing _without_ CUPS

2011-10-27 Thread Warren Block
On Thu, 27 Oct 2011, Ronald F. Guilmette wrote: In message , Warren Block wrote: ... The only thing that worries me about my rather ad-hoc way of setting up a "personal" printer (as describe above) is that I sort of wonder what will happen if I ever try to print something when something else

Re: Fast personal printing _without_ CUPS

2011-10-27 Thread perryh
Polytropon wrote: > Companies that develop printers want money. > They need to continuously sell printers ... This seems to be becoming less and less accurate. It has long been the case that consumer-grade ink-blot printers are sold below cost -- the money being made by selling ink cartridges.

Re: Fast personal printing _without_ CUPS

2011-10-27 Thread Polytropon
On Thu, 27 Oct 2011 19:39:17 -0400, Jerry wrote: > On Fri, 28 Oct 2011 00:52:49 +0200 > Polytropon articulated: > > > There isn't much you can invent on a hammer. :-) > > Absolutely true. However, as Abraham Maslow said in 1966, "It is > tempting, if the only tool you have is a hammer, to treat e

Re: Fast personal printing _without_ CUPS

2011-10-27 Thread Robert Bonomi
> From owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org Thu Oct 27 16:46:51 2011 > Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2011 17:46:21 -0400 > From: Jerry > To: FreeBSD > Subject: Re: Fast personal printing _without_ CUPS > > On Thu, 27 Oct 2011 21:11:32 +0200 > Polytropon articulated: > > > O

Re: Fast personal printing _without_ CUPS

2011-10-27 Thread Jerry
On Fri, 28 Oct 2011 00:52:49 +0200 Polytropon articulated: > There isn't much you can invent on a hammer. :-) Absolutely true. However, as Abraham Maslow said in 1966, "It is tempting, if the only tool you have is a hammer, to treat everything as if it were a nail." This sort of tunnel vision, a

Re: Fast personal printing _without_ CUPS

2011-10-27 Thread Polytropon
that turns you on} agree to one uniform method > of implementing printer drivers and then let the manufacturers > implement it on their end. I would _LOVE_ that to happen! You can't imagine how often I'm claiming that the UNIX and Linux world should be the first one to introduce a r

Re: Fast personal printing _without_ CUPS

2011-10-27 Thread John Levine
>>I'm not a huge fan of CUPS, but at this point it's the best of a bad >>lot. I find the queueing useful, since I often print documents long >>enough that I don't want to wait. > >I don't quite understand the issue you are raising john. $ lpr foo

Re: Fast personal printing _without_ CUPS

2011-10-27 Thread Mark Felder
You've just made me a happy, happy user. I always wondered what it would take to get rid of CUPS, and today I've done it. Finally my print jobs are instantaneous here at work instead of being a mystery. Can't wait to go home and do the same with my

Re: Fast personal printing _without_ CUPS

2011-10-27 Thread Jerry
hy which then requires me to attempt to manually modify the files to point to the right location, etcetera. I still have not gotten it to work. This is with only one driver on one PC. I can easily see why any manufacturer would not want to be bothered with this bullshit. Microsoft has used the same

Re: Fast personal printing _without_ CUPS

2011-10-27 Thread Ronald F. Guilmette
In message , Warren Block wrote: >... >> The only thing that worries me about my rather ad-hoc way of setting up >> a "personal" printer (as describe above) is that I sort of wonder what >> will happen if I ever try to print something when something else is >> currently printing. > >There's als

Re: Fast personal printing _without_ CUPS

2011-10-27 Thread Ronald F. Guilmette
In message <20111027143609.60335.qm...@joyce.lan>, you wrote: >I'm not a huge fan of CUPS, but at this point it's the best of a bad >lot. I find the queueing useful, since I often print documents long >enough that I don't want to wait. I don't quite unders

Re: Fast personal printing _without_ CUPS

2011-10-27 Thread Polytropon
x man and said that he felt my pain. He also informed me that while > it had been discussed from time to time, it was always felt that it > would be a lose-lose situation. They do supply drivers for Linux and > Debian but that is about it. He stated that it was felt that the cost > of wr

Re: Fast personal printing _without_ CUPS

2011-10-27 Thread Chuck Swiger
On Oct 27, 2011, at 10:39 AM, Jerry wrote: > Printing under MS Windows is a breeze. The *nix community has never > gotten printing up to that lever. Of course Unix has had functional printing; the issue is mostly dumb printers which can't accept PostScript or at least PCL, and need an OS-specific

Re: Fast personal printing _without_ CUPS

2011-10-27 Thread Chip Camden
Quoth Ronald F. Guilmette on Thursday, 27 October 2011: > > #!/bin/sh > > printer='/dev/ulpt0' > > if [ $# = 0 ]; then > cat | /usr/local/libexec/psif > $printer > else > for arg in $* ; do > cat $arg | /usr/loca

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