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postings.
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On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 06:33:05AM -0400, Jerry wrote:
> On Tue, 9 Jun 2009 17:13:47 -0600
> Chad Perrin wrote:
>
> >If 0.111% of customers are unfortunate enough to end up with something
> >entirely beyond their control causing something to happen that can be
> >imagined to be a violation of GoD
Every time you get in a car, you risk your life. Does that mean you
Everything is dangerous, life itself being the most - always ends with
death.
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>If 0.111% of customers are unfortunate enough to end up with something
>entirely beyond their control causing something to happen that can be
>imagined to be a violation of GoDaddy's partially undisclosed policies,
>and 0.1% of GoDaddy custome
every time you do config on the same build
directory.
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On Mon, Jun 08, 2009 at 05:31:12PM -0400, Jerry wrote:
> On Mon, 8 Jun 2009 14:55:49 -0600
> Chad Perrin wrote:
>
> >I try to learn from others' mistakes to reduce the likelihood that I
> >will be forced to learn from my own. If you really want to learn from
> >your own mistakes, though, go ahea
neighbor's newspaper, that's the time to do it.
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to produce LaTeX documents. I even `published' my
> collection of makefiles at https://gna.org/projects/bsdmakepscripts/
And I'm using a heavily customized version of this CA setup:
http://sial.org/howto/openssl/ca/
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Michaël
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table file
exists and is newer.
Ruben
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On Mon, 8 Jun 2009 14:55:49 -0600
Chad Perrin wrote:
>I try to learn from others' mistakes to reduce the likelihood that I
>will be forced to learn from my own. If you really want to learn from
>your own mistakes, though, go ahead and ignore the instances where
>GoDaddy has screwed over other cu
hich I do with - you already guessed it - with "make install"
(uses ftp -u then), and "make deinstall" deletes stuff from
the webserver. :-)
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On Mon, Jun 08, 2009 at 04:45:43AM -0400, Jerry wrote:
>
> I have used GoDaddy for 7 years now without a single problem. Maybe I
> am just lucky. I have only contacted them twice; however, I received
> a quick and courteous response to my inquiry.
I try to learn from others' mistakes to reduce th
On Sun, Jun 07, 2009 at 11:52:17PM -0500, Lars Eighner wrote:
>
> What I need most is to find (a) make tutorial(s) that do not suppose make is
> being used for compling c/c++ programs. Yes, I know, that is mostly why
> make exists, but many tutorials plunge right into C examples with implicit C
>
that complex,
so it's actually frightening everyone based upon it's reputation. Well, that,
and the one truly poor makefile I've ever seen, that one defaulted to by all of
the autoconf tools (the gcc Makefile is an example of this, it's too bad to be
described without using foul l
> Message: 22
> Date: Mon, 8 Jun 2009 08:10:50 -0300
> From: Friedrich Locke
> Subject: SAN FreeBSD Server
> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
> Message-ID:
>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>
> Dear gentleman,
>
> i would like to
On Sun, 7 Jun 2009 19:46:29 -0600
Chad Perrin wrote:
>On Thu, Jun 04, 2009 at 11:50:35PM -0400, itsemu wrote:
>> if your dealing with a isp such as a cable/dsl company, remember the
>> requirements to work there, they arent trained on anything besides
>> windows.. probably dont really know what a
make should not be perplexed over how to
create them. How do I express that kind of relationship?
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On Fri, Jun 05, 2009 at 06:23:56PM +0200, Wojciech Puchar wrote:
> >
> >The tech support people do what they are told to do. If you've ever had
> >a job in which every single incoming call is someone who is frustrated,
> >angry and is going to take it out on *you*, it might be understandable
> >why
On Thu, Jun 04, 2009 at 11:50:35PM -0400, itsemu wrote:
> if your dealing with a isp such as a cable/dsl company, remember the
> requirements to work there, they arent trained on anything besides windows..
> probably dont really know what a static ip is or have any idea what hardware
> each differe
rite a
program to kill me."
just read polish article about whole US army having to switch to windows
vista because someone decided so - no i fully understand you :)
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ll clients the
truth.
It's the users who scream and bitch and claim "it hasn't worked for a
month!",
Simply answer "why didn't you call month ago? As you called now, i count
this as problem started today".
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nted someone to be mad at, and I was it.
> I've been in the industry quite a while, and I would hazard a guess that
> about 85% of tech support calls incoming would be user error.
>
> Unless it's a relatively small ISP, you can't expect the tech support
> people to be
Bill Moran wrote:
> In response to Steve Bertrand :
>
> [snip]
>
>> Disclaimer: I work as a network engineer at a small ISP. From time to
>> time, I still have to answer the phone every once in a while
>> (unfortunately).
>>
>> I do not like dealing directly with users. Most of them complain, bit
that management or the higher level
tech screwed something up and the tech support folks are supposed to be
covering it up, there's not much you can really say or do, and that's
_really_ frustrating.
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keep anyone longer than a few months.
I've been in the industry quite a while, and I would hazard a guess that
about 85% of tech support calls incoming would be user error.
Unless it's a relatively small ISP, you can't expect the tech support
people to be able to answer questions
itsemu wrote:
> if your dealing with a isp such as a cable/dsl company, remember the
> requirements to work there, they arent trained on anything besides windows..
Excuse me, unless you have ever worked at an ISP, might I kindly ask you
to have some respect. (if you have, the call centre you likel
in the service to know the meaning of your questions and the answers.
Man, you're with the wrong ISP.
Or maybe it's best ISP available there? :)
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1Gbyte/s?
Yes.
it's 10Gbit/s
No.
So 1Gbyte or Gbit/s?
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Reid Linnemann wrote:
Written by Mark Hartkemeyer on 06/04/09 11:23>>
I'm pretty new to FreeBSD and was reading part of Greg Lehey's The
Complete FreeBSD 4th Edition. I found the section on ISPs in chapter
18 really interesting. I put some of his recommended questions to my
, Jun 4, 2009 at 11:34 PM, Modulok wrote:
> On 6/4/09, Mark Hartkemeyer wrote:
> > I'm pretty new to FreeBSD and was reading part of Greg Lehey's The
> > Complete FreeBSD 4th Edition. I found the section on ISPs in chapter
> > 18 really interesting. I put some of
On 6/4/09, Mark Hartkemeyer wrote:
> I'm pretty new to FreeBSD and was reading part of Greg Lehey's The
> Complete FreeBSD 4th Edition. I found the section on ISPs in chapter
> 18 really interesting. I put some of his recommended questions to my
> ISP, Cincinnati Bell&
you use to connect?
server on my connection.
Outgoing port 25, 137-139 closed. Incoming port 137-139, 445 closed
So it's not full internet service unless it can unblock it on request.
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So it's not full internet service unless it can unblock it on request.
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Mark Hartkemeyer said the following on 2009-06-04 18:23:
I'm pretty new to FreeBSD and was reading part of Greg Lehey's The
Complete FreeBSD 4th Edition. I found the section on ISPs in chapter
18 really interesting. I put some of his recommended questions to my
ISP, Cincinnati Bell&
any
difference and it's closest to lowest offer.
But people like to hear this so they hear, and at least here marketing
people know perfectly what to answer about "internet speed" as they call
it :)
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problems here".
I asked few their other clients then - they heard exactly the same.
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Written by Mark Hartkemeyer on 06/04/09 11:23>>
> I'm pretty new to FreeBSD and was reading part of Greg Lehey's The
> Complete FreeBSD 4th Edition. I found the section on ISPs in chapter
> 18 really interesting. I put some of his recommended questions to my
> ISP, Ci
--- On Thu, 6/4/09, Wojciech Puchar wrote:
> From: Wojciech Puchar
> Subject: Re: ISP questions
> To: "Bill Moran"
> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
> Date: Thursday, June 4, 2009, 12:56 PM
> >> 4. What kind of hardware and
> software are you runni
Wojciech Puchar wrote:
>>> 4. What kind of hardware and software are you running?
>>> "Can't provide this, due to security reasons."
>>
>> That's the stupidest answer I've heard today.
>
> It isn't that stupid. As many ISPs admins aren't very good, they simply
> fear.
Based on the answers pro
vested millions of dollars each for hardware, but not employees.
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On Thu, 4 Jun 2009 13:10:17 -0400
Bill Moran wrote:
>In response to Mark Hartkemeyer :
>> 4. What kind of hardware and software are you running?
>> "Can't provide this, due to security reasons."
>
>That's the stupidest answer I've heard today.
Actually, I had a Comcast representative give b
In response to Mark Hartkemeyer :
> I'm pretty new to FreeBSD and was reading part of Greg Lehey's The
> Complete FreeBSD 4th Edition. I found the section on ISPs in chapter
> 18 really interesting. I put some of his recommended questions to my
> ISP, Cincinnati Bell&
On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 11:23 AM, Mark Hartkemeyer wrote:
> I'm pretty new to FreeBSD and was reading part of Greg Lehey's The
> Complete FreeBSD 4th Edition. I found the section on ISPs in chapter
> 18 really interesting. I put some of his recommended questions to my
>
I'm pretty new to FreeBSD and was reading part of Greg Lehey's The
Complete FreeBSD 4th Edition. I found the section on ISPs in chapter
18 really interesting. I put some of his recommended questions to my
ISP, Cincinnati Bell's Zoomtown. I think I talked to three or four
peopl
you increased MAXCOMLEN to
40, but you can try bumping it and see what breaks :)
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0xe400-0xe403,0xe080-0xe08f,0xe000-0xe00f
irq 19 at device 31.2 on pci0
atapci3: port
0xd080-0xd087,0xd000-0xd003,0xcc00-0xcc07,0xc880-0xc883,0xc800-0xc80f,0xc480-0xc48f
irq 19 at device 31.5 on pci0
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it's not possible to automatize this unfortunately.
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that's why i opt for moderation. because it's completely stupid as there
are no rules and no enforcement.
On Fri, 29 May 2009, gabe wrote:
This is stupid, I'm unsubscribing.
jeez
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something else.
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gh unreasonable hoops
whenever their personality is slightly different from the 'permitted'
forms of straight-jacket.
>>> already told you i will
>>
>> Thank you! I'll be watching for interesting updates :)
>
> OK no later than tomorrow morning
There a
This is stupid, I'm unsubscribing.
jeez
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Sent: Friday, May 29, 2009 1:41 PM
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Subject: Re: On the need for moderated questions lists
On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 07:13:49PM +0200, Wojciech Puchar wrote:
> >so
On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 07:13:49PM +0200, Wojciech Puchar wrote:
> >software that runs on multiple OSes (and not *just* FreeBSD) to run an
> >extra system, running some other OS.
>
> no. i expect them to ask THAT program support.
>
> In really rare cases when they got an answer like
> "You did al
On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 11:00:49AM -0600, Chad Perrin wrote:
>
> So . . . you have the same choice in a dictatorship that you have in a
> benign dictatorship: leave.
That should have said:
So . . . you have the same choice in a moderated mailing list that you
have in a benign dictatorship: l
gave excellent example.
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laris/whatever OS and it works fine"
They it's place to ask because certainly there's something wrong with the
port.
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>> - questions about purely FreeBSD-specific and FreeBSD-dependend things
>> of
>> ported programs. For example:
>>
>> ---
>> I start program X, configure it the same way as in linux, installed all
>> the same modules, but here it crashes/behave differe
On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 03:14:20PM +0200, Wojciech Puchar wrote:
> >
> >Not necessarily.
> >
> >There were 'rules' in Nazi Germany too, and there usually exist at least
> >some 'rules' in oppressive regimes, but they do not necessarily, by
> >virtue of their mere existence, lead to satisfying resul
programs, BUT NOT THE PROGRAMS
> itself.
>
> - questions about purely FreeBSD-specific and FreeBSD-dependend things of
> ported programs. For example:
>
> ---
> I start program X, configure it the same way as in linux, installed all
> the same modules, but here
ving in Nazi Germany
(and Poland) that times didn't.
already told you i will
Thank you! I'll be watching for interesting updates :)
OK no later than tomorrow morning
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> already told you i will
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imes when i will have free time and good humour to have lots of fun,
explain to KDE/Gnome/windows fans what unix is, talk about politics,
global warming and nice girls etc. etc.
Or maybe sometimes even get help or be helpful, for example with questions
like "do you know a program that do t
On Fri, 29 May 2009 13:01:04 +0200 (CEST),
Wojciech Puchar wrote:
>> Because we already _have_ a list `for general FreeBSD questions', and it
>> is open. Adding even more lists to the mix will --at least initially--
>> only serve as a source of mild confusion. Imagin
Because we already _have_ a list `for general FreeBSD questions', and it
is open. Adding even more lists to the mix will --at least initially--
only serve as a source of mild confusion. Imagine you are a new FreeBSD
user.
Try to imagine it now.
i see the webpage, the mailing lists, an
ard.
>> To change something so deeply ingrained into the whole `culture' of
>
> why adding extra moderated list is a change of deeply ingrained culture?
> Once again i'm not for shutting down that list.
Because we already _have_ a list `for general FreeBSD questions',
ed to compete with say - windows - hard, it's still so good OS, based
of real idea of unix, and still well optimized for performance. Actually
it gets better every release.
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hand, quite more often a good thing :)
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there is
nothing that prevent me from having an opinion about moderation and trying
to explain to others that it make sense.
There is a reason why freebsd-questions is open to everyone, including
people who want to discuss things like ``How do I make my Windows boot
loader launch FreeBSD?'
problem with that sort of reasoning is that the FreeBSD mailing
list charters *have* been decided.
There is a reason why freebsd-questions is open to everyone, including
people who want to discuss things like ``How do I make my Windows boot
loader launch FreeBSD?''. This way people wh
actually detect
that there is not a generic kernel in /boot/kernel?
If after freebsd-update install, you would do a shutdown -r now (before
building a new custom kernel, will this be desastreous?
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2009/5/14 Saifi Khan :
> On Wed, 13 May 2009, Sean Cavanaugh wrote:
>
>> --
>> From: "Saifi Khan"
>> Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2009 9:04 PM
>> To: "Sean Cavanaugh"
>> Cc: ; ;
>>
&
ver made Linux if the
litigation around BSD 4.4 had ended earlier.
But why he feels like he can take over the GNU OS just because he made the
kernel never made sense to me. I'm glad the GNU project finally got Hurd going
though, even though they too almost went with a BSD 4.4 based kernel b
On Wed, 13 May 2009, Sean Cavanaugh wrote:
> --
> From: "Saifi Khan"
> Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2009 9:04 PM
> To: "Sean Cavanaugh"
> Cc: ; ;
> Subject: RE: Welcome to the "freebsd-questions&quo
--
From: "Saifi Khan"
Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2009 9:04 PM
To: "Sean Cavanaugh"
Cc: ; ;
Subject: RE: Welcome to the "freebsd-questions" mailing list
On Wed, 13 May 2009, Sean Cavanaugh wrote:
(The true
dia.org/wiki/GNU/Linux_naming_controversy
thanks
Saifi.
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ad carefully the section on CVSup:
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/cvsup.html
You can grab whatever source you want with this method.
5. RTFM!
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> Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 12:55:52 -0400
> From: jerr...@msu.edu
> To: korikov...@gmail.com
> CC: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
> Subject: Re: Welcome to the "freebsd-questions" mailing list
>
> On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 08:33:44PM +0530, Shakil Khan wrote:
>
eBSD than in Linux.
Although there is a kernel, it is intimately part of the whole
operating system, not a kernel which someone grabs makes up a separate
distribution with.
jerry
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the permissions/paths correctly.
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You can install using sysinstall, but that will be out of date.
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... As as way to ensure the device will reboot. Note, we have
everything mounted ro so we dont have to worry about file system
issues.
Does the platform you are using support hardware watchdogs ?
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* Polytropon [2009-05-04 21:02:29 +0200]:
> > [...] and of
> > course 'wheel'.
>
> Why "of course"? :-)
>
Umm, linuxism habit :-)
> There are several groups that you can add your user to, but because
> you're already in wheel, you don't have to (such as the "dialer"
> group for ppp).
>
>
* ill...@gmail.com [2009-05-04 14:39:34 -0400]:
>
> Various methods apply (for instance /dev/dspN.n is world
> writable), man 5 devfs.conf is a good start for some of that.
>
Ah. Thanks.
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f it detects
new devices while it's already running.
See the manpages for these files. Yes, they do exist. :-)
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ant packages
> to them?
>
Various methods apply (for instance /dev/dspN.n is world
writable), man 5 devfs.conf is a good start for some of that.
Best of luck.
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Coming from Gnu/Linux, I see differences in group generation on regular
user generation, and there's a group I'm not familiar with - 'operator'.
What does that one do?
I'm familiar with 'staff' and I've added my normal user to that, and of
course 'wheel'.
I intend to use the system on a laptop
sing a known good. Probably 70%+ of the time it has turned out
to save lots of time. Rather than try every thing else first I have learned
to eliminate the power supply first, rather than the other way around. But I
also have a 100MHz dual trace 'scope too.
-Mike
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