Re: FreeBSD vs. RedHat

2003-10-03 Thread Vulpes Velox
On Thu, 2 Oct 2003 12:47:51 -0600 (MDT)
SoloCDM [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Thu, 2 Oct 2003, SoloCDM wrote:
 
  Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2003 12:43:39 -0600 (MDT)
  From: SoloCDM [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Reply-To: SoloCDM [EMAIL PROTECTED],
   FreeBSD-Questions (Request) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: FreeBSD-Questions (Request) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Re: FreeBSD vs. RedHat
  
  On Thu, 2 Oct 2003, Jerry McAllister wrote:
  
   Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2003 10:59:42 -0400 (EDT)
   From: Jerry McAllister [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Cc: FreeBSD-Questions (Request) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Subject: Re: FreeBSD vs. RedHat
   
Why do the ISOs seem to be three CDs of 600Mb each for RedHat
compared to 1.5 CDs for FreeBSD?  I thought the files were larger
with FreeBSD and its tarballs.
   
Does FreeBSD offer all the packages from A to Z in their CDs?
   
   Well, sort of.  FreeBSD itself does not offer any CDs.  It has some
   ISO-s.  Recently FreeBSD decided to quit putting out ISOs with all
   the source for all the ports.  So, the two ISO-s called disk1.iso
   and disk2.iso contain the installation system, the full operating
   system and some of the more popular ports.  They used to put out two
   more ISO-s that contained the rest of the ports in a four ISO set,
   but FreeBSD no longer does that.  You can easily obtain any and all
   of it through FreeBSD because the ISO-s have the complete ports tree
   skeleton from which you can install any of the ports directly over the
   net - and that is how you really want to install ports anyway.
   
   BUT, some other companies package the larger sets on CDs - usually 4
   CDs.  Try FreeBSD Mall, for example.  There are a couple of others as
   well.  Those sets have the whole schmear.
   
   The other combination is to download the mini-iso which has
   essentially just the installation system and the OS and everything
   else in then brought down over the net during installation.
   
Does FreeBSD come with an installation package?
   
   Yes.  You boot the install CD and voila.
   
Is FreeBSD Linux or UNIX?
   
   FreeBSD is BSD which has its origins in the Berkeley U written version
   of Bell Labs UNIX way way back in deep and dark history long before
   Linux was ever conceived, let alone birthed.
  
  All of you did a great job of describing many features of BSD.  It
  makes it enticing.
  
  When RedHat started out, it had some conveniences, but it quickly
  become so bizarre and discombobulated that I am feed-up, a voodoo act
  and standing on one's head is involved.  Most of the so-called-experts
  in RPMs don't know what they're doing from one minute to the next.  
  Usually installing the tarball (my form of description) is the only
  available option.
  
  So many of the RPM distributors are inventing and reinventing new ways
  to reroute the file to its original location.  Often the files go
  through 6 links before you capture the original file.  That doesn't
  include the original program from recognizing other renamed filenames
  that produce optional executions.  This usually keeps some of the RPM
  installations from installing, *unless*, all the rubble is ripped out
  before you start.  Often that *breaks* the whole structure/hierarchy
  apart.
  
  Now distributors have moved to an option that supposedly entices
  enterprises.  Usually it forces the installations to conform to their
  type of networking.
  
  Is it possible to go from one distribution version to another (4.x to
  5.x) without entirely removing the old version?  Do the upgrades with
  the ports allow this possibility?
  
  Can packages and their dependencies be removed through a package that
  does the uninstalling?
 
 What CPU (i386, i486, i586, ...) are the packages compiled and geared
 towards?

on the x86 side it is i386 for 4.x and i486 for 5.x...
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Re: Does FreeBSD support USB Wireless Adapter ?

2003-10-03 Thread Simon Rutishauser
That would interest me, too. Especially if 802.11g devices should work

Peschm

Am Fri, 03 Oct 2003 11:56:33 +0800 schrieb Michael Lee:

 Hi,
 I use Gemtek WL-382F USB Wireless Adapter. I've set the options for USB
 and wireless ethernet and recompiled the kernel.
 While plugging in the USB Wireless Adapter, it shows:
 
 ugen0: Atmel product 0x7605, rev.1.10/1.00, addr 2
 
 I noticed that the Handbook ( chap. 19.3 ) only mentioned for PCMCIA
 wireless ethernet adapter. However, I wonder if FreeBSD does support USB
 Wireless Adapter.
 
 Of course I failed to find any wi0 devices while typing ifconfig -a
 
 Any suggestion ?
 
 Thank you!
 
 Michael Lee
 
 
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Re: java 1.3

2003-10-03 Thread Herbert
On Thu, Oct 02, 2003 at 05:41:21PM -0700, Michael J Ruhl wrote:

 Howdy,
 
 I am trying to get the java/jdk13 port to install on FreeBSD 5.1, and am
 having a problem.
 
 When the diablo java script is run
 (/usr/local/diablo-jdk1.3.1/jre/bin/java) (which runs .java_wrapper), I
 get the following error message:
 
 /usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1: /usr/lib/libm.so.2: Undefined symbol
 __fpclassifyd

 Does anyone have any ideas on how I can make this work?

You want to read 
   
 http://www.freebsdfoundation.org/downloads/java.shtml

This was mentioned before.
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Re: IDE RAID controllers

2003-10-03 Thread Irvine Short
On Thu, 2 Oct 2003, Chris Shenton wrote:

 I got a DELL 600SC server a while back, not expensive, came with a
 DELL CERC-branded MegaRAID i4: 4 IDE drives on the single PCI
 controller card.

thanks Chris and other who replied!

Much appreciated.

Cheers,

Irvine



 I've been running them as a couple RAID-5 volumes
 under FreeBSD-5.x.  Do a search on the lists for CERC and you should
 find my other postings on this.

 I had some problems with drives failing but it appears it was an early
 run of flakey WD1200JB 120GB drives, not the controller.

 I haven't tried hot swapping or other stuff, but that's not why I
 bought it.



Irvine Short

Sys Admin
SANBI, University of the Western Cape, South Africa
http://www.sanbi.ac.za
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cel: +27-82-494 3828
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X on a Soyo

2003-10-03 Thread Lute Mullenix
Hi there,

My old box died just the other day and I picked up a Soyo bare bones kit to get back 
up and running asap. The old one was an IBM with an i810 on-board video and I had no 
trouble getting it up and running. This new one has some sort of Trident on-board 
video and it wasn't hard to get it running, but the display is pulled off to the right 
and has sparkley's.

If anyone is familiar with this setup could you please give me some ideas of how to 
tweak the system to get everything squared away.

It's a SY-K7VEMPRO motherboard, with VIA VT8361 AGP/PCI onboard video.

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Re: FreeBSD vs. RedHat

2003-10-03 Thread R. Zoontjens
SoloCDM wrote:

Is FreeBSD Linux or UNIX?

http://www.xs4all.nl/~marcone/bsdversuslinux.html   :-)

A more serious link:
http://people.freebsd.org/~murray/bsd_flier.html
BSD is UNIX. Linux is a kernel.

Good luck,
Richard.


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Re: can't get the Linux aaccli to work under 4.8-RELEASE, 4.9-RC1, 5.1-RELEASE

2003-10-03 Thread rysanek
Yup, it works on 4.8, as well as on 4.9-RC1 and 5.1.
Only on 5.1, AAC_COMPAT_LINUX doesn't exist anymore.
But COMPAT_LINUX still seems to be necessary.
I guess I'll post a summary to USENET news.

Frank Rysanek

   options AAC_COMPAT_LINUX

_and_

   options COMPAT_LINUX

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Re: FreeBSD vs. RedHat

2003-10-03 Thread Erik Steffl
R. Zoontjens wrote:
SoloCDM wrote:

Is FreeBSD Linux or UNIX?

http://www.xs4all.nl/~marcone/bsdversuslinux.html   :-)

A more serious link:
http://people.freebsd.org/~murray/bsd_flier.html
  it's quite outdated... interesting for indiana jones maybe... ignores 
many new features of linux and freeBSD... some smilies should be changed 
to smilier smilies:-) there are pretty exciting developments in both 
freeBSD and linux world since it was written...

BSD is UNIX. Linux is a kernel.
  oh yeah, the GNU/Linux is OS! (Gnu/X/Mozilla/KDE/Gnome/.../Linux)

	erik

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Making packages with dependicies

2003-10-03 Thread Murat USTUNTAS
Hello all,

I have a little question on packages. I created /usr/posts/packages 
directory.
Then, i go to the program port directory then make package eveything is ok.
But, the program dependecy packages not in All directory..
What is the command from ports making packages wits the dependies?

Regards

Murat

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Re: java 1.3

2003-10-03 Thread Javier Soques
The native 1.3 java for FreeBSD won´t work with
FreeBSD 5.1 
(http://www.freebsdfoundation.org/downloads/java-errata.shtml)

I also wanted to try it, I guess I have to wait till
they make it work on 5.1, in the mean time I tried
installing some of the versions from the ports
collection but failed (don´t remember the cause).  I
finally got the Linux-Blackdown jdk 1.3 version to
run.  Then later I downloaded the Linux-Sun JDK 1.4.0
version (not the 1.4.1 which core dumps) and it also
works.  I have just started using FreeBSD (after
trying Linux, still using Windoze as a client
machine).  I haven´t tested the jdk extensively but I
am running Resin 2.1.11 (www.caucho.com) and it works
flawlessly.

Bye
Javier


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Filter by MAC Address

2003-10-03 Thread traore
 Hello,
 
 I get router on FreeBSD. I want to filter packet by MAC Address fitering. Pls 
 let me know how can i this using ipfw. Or how can install iptables on freeBSD
 (with iptables, this is possible).
 REgards!



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USB Modem for PPP

2003-10-03 Thread Odhiambo Washington
I have a USB Modem, and FreeBSD 5.1-RELEASE discovers it
as 

ugen0: STMicroelectronics USB Communicator, rev 1.00/2.00, addr 2


Any possibility that I can use this device for PPP??
Looking for hints.

Thanks

-Wash

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Problem installing FreeBSD in M754LMR Motherboard.

2003-10-03 Thread Guillermo Fuentes
Hello there,

This is the fisrt time I'm trying to install FreeBSD. I really like the
project and I decided to study it and learn from it.
I have not been able to install it in my PC:
Motherboard: M754LMR (http://www.pcchips.com.tw/M754LMR.html):
Video  adapter (onboard):  NVIDIDA Aladdin TNT2
Devices (onboard):
 ALi M1533 PCI to ISA bridge
 ALi M1621 CPU to PCI bridge
 ALi M1621 PCI to AGP bridge

Processor: Celeron 600MHz
Memory: 192MB RAM (-16MB taken to video adapter NVIDIDA Aladdin TNT2 )
Hard Drive: 4GB

The problem I'm having is that when the kernel start loading, it gives me
the
following error.

...
pci0: PCI bus on pcib0
agp0: Ali Generic host to PCI bridge mem 0xd800-0xdbff at device
0.0 on pci0
panic: contigmalloc1: size must not be 0
Uptime: 0s
Automatic reboot in 15 seconds

I have search for a posible solution but I have not found anything helpfull.
I flash the EPROM of the motherboard with the last version
(ftp://ftp.pcchips.com.tw/BIOS/M754LMR/) and it din't work.

I'm getting the same error for FreeBSD 4.8 release or 5.1 current, but in
different moments.
With FreeBSD 4.8 release the installation reach the Configure X Server
section and allways fail when I specify the video card I have. Then, when I
reboot, I receive the error message mentioned above.
With FreeBSD 5.1 current the error is show when the Installation CD boots
and try to load the kernel.


Can someone tell me if this motherboard and configuration is not supported
by FreeBSD?
What can I do to get my FreeBSD running in this configuration?

Thank you in advance,

Guillermo

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Re: java 1.3

2003-10-03 Thread Javier Soques
I forgot to mention that I had installed Linux
compatibility when installing FreeBSD 5.1


--- Javier Soques [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 The native 1.3 java for FreeBSD won´t work with
 FreeBSD 5.1 

(http://www.freebsdfoundation.org/downloads/java-errata.shtml)
 
 I also wanted to try it, I guess I have to wait till
 they make it work on 5.1, in the mean time I tried
 installing some of the versions from the ports
 collection but failed (don´t remember the cause).  I
 finally got the Linux-Blackdown jdk 1.3 version to
 run.  Then later I downloaded the Linux-Sun JDK
 1.4.0
 version (not the 1.4.1 which core dumps) and it also
 works.  I have just started using FreeBSD (after
 trying Linux, still using Windoze as a client
 machine).  I haven´t tested the jdk extensively but
 I
 am running Resin 2.1.11 (www.caucho.com) and it
 works
 flawlessly.
 
 Bye
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Re: FreeBSD vs. RedHat

2003-10-03 Thread Erik Steffl
Jerry McAllister wrote:


SoloCDM wrote:

Why do the ISOs seem to be three CDs of 600Mb each for RedHat compared
to 1.5 CDs for FreeBSD?  I thought the files were larger with FreeBSD
and its tarballs.
Does FreeBSD offer all the packages from A to Z in their CDs?
There are some packages which are only available through FTP.  Some 
packages aren't included on CDs because 3 cds is a little excessive.

Does FreeBSD come with an installation package?

Is FreeBSD Linux or UNIX?

FreeBSD is a child of System V, so UNIX.  Linux was written from scratch 
by Linus with the GNU Public License, as opposed to FreeBSD which 
originated from BSD, which originated from System V.


No doubt you will hear a lot of corrections to your statement.
That is because it is not true.First of all, System V is a UNIX,
but UNIX is not a System V.   You sound like you have confused which
set is the larger and contains the other set.   The set of all UNIX 
contains System V (and BSD and Linux).   The set of all System V does
  you can't say that linux is unix. both legally (somebody would have 
to pay) and because it's independent implementation. you can call them 
unix-like

...
Linux started with supposedly a clean (in the same sense that BSD
was cleaned of Bell Labs code) System V type of kernel and people then
added on all the rest of the stuff, also supposedly clean code.  Now
Linux seems to be in the same place BSD was years ago proving they
are clean and not using any code now owned by SCO.   I have no idea
how clean it really is or how seriously SCO is in its claims or if
it is just trying to position itself into a marketable position.
  the difference is that linux started from scratch while bsd started 
from bell code. not that it makes one or the other better but you can 
say that bsd IS unix (one of them) but you cannot say that linux is unix.

	erik

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starting named and httpd

2003-10-03 Thread Tony
Hello:
	I'm sorry to ask this. I have searched the archive mailing list.
I've just installed 5.1 and I notice that  named  and httpd  is started 
by gndc. I've checked /etc/rc.conf and /etc/defaults/rc.conf and 
named_enable=NO.
I'm not sure waht I'm missing. Is there some script starting these?
Thanks in Advance
Tony





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FreeBSD4.5 release supports bigLBA( over 136GB HDD)?

2003-10-03 Thread topaz
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Re: FreeBSD4.5 release supports bigLBA( over 136GB HDD)?

2003-10-03 Thread Erik Trulsson
On Fri, Oct 03, 2003 at 10:46:42PM +0900, topaz wrote:
 Dear Sirs
 
 I have been using FreeBSD4.5 as a File server.
 
 I like to use 200GB  IDE HDD(WD 2000)  with FreeBSD4.5.
 
 BIOS supports bigLBA.
 
 Does  FreeBSD4.5 support big LBA/

The release notes for 4.5 says:

   The ata(4) driver now has support for 48-bit addressing. Devices
   larger than 137GB are now supported.

So the answer would seem to be Yes.

 
 If not, which release of FreeBSD can support bigLBA?

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UNIX, FreeBSD, Linux (Re: FreeBSD vs. RedHat)

2003-10-03 Thread Javier Soques
Just educational...

Probably old news but it's an interesting site and the
Unix Timeline is quite awesome. (There is also a
Windows Timeline for those interested).

http://www.levenez.com/unix/


Bye
Javier Soques


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var partition is too small

2003-10-03 Thread Redmond Militante
hi all

the var partition on my apache box may be too small.
this is a problem because - 
i originally had newsyslog set at

/var/log/httpd-access.log   644  7 100  24B /var/run/httpd.pid 30

which sets httpd-access.log to be rotated in binary format everytime it reaches 100 mb 
or once every hour for 24 hours.
which basically means we only archive less than a day's worth of httpd-access.log's on 
this machine...


the /var partition on this machine is 252 mb.

yesterday i was told asked to start archiving httpd-access.logs for analysis over 
longer periods of time - that i should be keeping a year's worth of logs, if possible. 
 i remember the original reason i set up newsyslog.conf to rotate httpd-access.logs on 
this machine so frequently is because the webserver is really busy, and this file 
tends to grow pretty rapidly, and i didn't want to have to log in, stop apache, and 
archive the logs by hand every day...

yesterday i looked into expanding the size of my /var partition by symlinking.

-drop to single user mode
-stop syslogd
-mv /var to /usr/var
-umount /var
-delete /var directory
-create symlink from /usr/var to /var

it seems easy, and i did it successfully once, but i hosed a (non)production box 
yesterday practicing the above procedure.

i have a number of questions:
-if i copy the contents of /var to /usr/var, then delete the var directory, do i need 
to modify my fstab?

my fstab right now looks like

/dev/aacd0s1g   /usrufs rw  2   2
/dev/aacd0s1e   /varufs rw  2   2

-do i need to modify this so that /var now points to a directory inside /usr? and how?
-i'm thinking that this may be too risky a procedure to try on a production box (i 
guess i'm spooked from ruining the practice box...) - anyone think i should just 
archive these logs by hand to someplace in my home directory (/usr is very large on 
this box - 65 gb - and hardly used)?  my goal is basically to keep an archive of 
httpd-access.logs for as long as possible to produce a comprehensive webalizer 
report...

thanks again

redmond






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Re: var partition is too small

2003-10-03 Thread Jens Rehsack
Redmond Militante wrote:
hi all

the var partition on my apache box may be too small.
this is a problem because - 
i originally had newsyslog set at

/var/log/httpd-access.log   644  7 100  24B /var/run/httpd.pid 30

which sets httpd-access.log to be rotated in binary format everytime it reaches 100 mb 
or once every hour for 24 hours.
which basically means we only archive less than a day's worth of httpd-access.log's on 
this machine...
the /var partition on this machine is 252 mb.
Looks like sysinstalls defaults.
Maybe this should be fixed some fine day :-)
yesterday i was told asked to start archiving httpd-access.logs for analysis over longer periods of time - that i should be keeping a year's worth of logs, if possible.  i remember the original reason i set up newsyslog.conf to rotate httpd-access.logs on this machine so frequently is because the webserver is really busy, and this file tends to grow pretty rapidly, and i didn't want to have to log in, stop apache, and archive the logs by hand every day...

yesterday i looked into expanding the size of my /var partition by symlinking.

-drop to single user mode
-stop syslogd
-mv /var to /usr/var
-umount /var
-delete /var directory
-create symlink from /usr/var to /var
That's really bad, because this means that there will be permanent
write accesses to you /usr label.
A better way could be a cron job which moves the old http-logs
once a day into a place in /usr, eg. /usr/save-logs.
it seems easy, and i did it successfully once, but i hosed a (non)production box yesterday practicing the above procedure.

i have a number of questions:
-if i copy the contents of /var to /usr/var, then delete the var directory, do i need 
to modify my fstab?
If you've done it as described, that would be better.
But I think you should re-think about the procedure.
my fstab right now looks like

/dev/aacd0s1g   /usrufs rw  2   2
/dev/aacd0s1e   /varufs rw  2   2
-do i need to modify this so that /var now points to a directory inside /usr? and how?
-i'm thinking that this may be too risky a procedure to try on a production box (i 
guess i'm spooked from ruining the practice box...) - anyone think i should just 
archive these logs by hand to someplace in my home directory (/usr is very large on 
this box - 65 gb - and hardly used)?  my goal is basically to keep an archive of 
httpd-access.logs for as long as possible to produce a comprehensive webalizer 
report...
thanks again

redmond
Best,
Jens
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Re: AFS

2003-10-03 Thread Jerry McAllister
 
 
 I am wondering how I might go about connecting to an AFS cell on my 
 FreeBSD 4.8 system.  Any input would be helpful.

Currently, as far as I know, there is no version of AFS client
available for FreeBSD although I keep hearing about openAFS
coming.I wish it would.   We use AFS here and so have to
use something besides FreeBSD on those systems that need AFS
access - unfortunately.

I know a BSD port of AFS was done at least once.  I know the
person[s] who did it as we were working in the same group at
the time (I didn't do any porting work).   But, I suppose creating
a complete OpenAFS has the same legal considerations as creating 
the clean BSD (clean of any Bell Labs / ATT code) and that Linux 
is currently being harrassed by SCO about is more of a total project 
than doing a port to BSD.   I keep hoping it will come along though.

If someone has any more encouraging information than this, please
post it and indicate where this can best be tracked.

jerry

 Thank you,
 Brian Gehrs
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FreeBSD SPAM

2003-10-03 Thread Joseph Koenig
I know this is an issue that comes up a lot, but I wanted to get an opinion
from some people on the list. We, along with everyone else, have TONS of
SPAM hit our server. Unfortunately, we haven't found any good way to reduce
it. We're using ORDB and SpamCop, but neither are really doing the job.
We're a small small company (7 employees) with about 100 mailboxes on the
server. We don't mind paying for a service that works, but we are certainly
on a tight budget. Any recommendations would be greatly appreciated.
Currently, we're using Sendmail, although we're considering (and testing) a
switch to PostFix. TIA for any advice,

Joe

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Re: mail/mutt-devel and S/MIME?

2003-10-03 Thread René Clerc
Hi Bruce,

* Bruce M Simpson [EMAIL PROTECTED] [03-10-2003 16:15]:

 Can someone point me at a concise set of instructions which enables me
 to get the mutt-devel port to verify/decipher S/MIME signed/encrypted
 email messages?

Get a recent version of the development branch, the latest is 1.5.4.
You can fetch it via ftp from ftp.mutt.org, and look for the devel
subdirectory.

Read doc/smime-notes.txt on information how to activate the SMIME
capabilities of mutt.

HTH,

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Re: FreeBSD SPAM

2003-10-03 Thread Rob
Joseph Koenig wrote:
I know this is an issue that comes up a lot, but I wanted to get an opinion
from some people on the list. We, along with everyone else, have TONS of
SPAM hit our server. Unfortunately, we haven't found any good way to reduce
it. We're using ORDB and SpamCop, but neither are really doing the job.
We're a small small company (7 employees) with about 100 mailboxes on the
server. We don't mind paying for a service that works, but we are certainly
on a tight budget. Any recommendations would be greatly appreciated.
Currently, we're using Sendmail, although we're considering (and testing) a
switch to PostFix. TIA for any advice,
Joe

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How about spamassassin ?
(/usr/ports/mail/p5-Mail-SpamAssassin)
It works great here and catches about 95% of the spam hitting us.
Rob Evers

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Re: var partition is too small

2003-10-03 Thread Redmond Militante
hi

a cron job that moves httpd-access.logs to an archive directory sounds like a fine 
idea - is it safe, though to move these logs while apache and syslogd are running?  or 
would the cron job need to stop those apps first, move the logs, then restart 
apache/syslogd?

thanks

redmond

[Fri, Oct 03, 2003 at 02:27:00PM +]
This one time, at band camp, Jens Rehsack said:

 Redmond Militante wrote:
 hi all
 
 the var partition on my apache box may be too small.
 this is a problem because - 
 i originally had newsyslog set at
 
 /var/log/httpd-access.log   644  7 100  24B 
 /var/run/httpd.pid 30
 
 which sets httpd-access.log to be rotated in binary format everytime it 
 reaches 100 mb or once every hour for 24 hours.
 which basically means we only archive less than a day's worth of 
 httpd-access.log's on this machine...
 
 
 the /var partition on this machine is 252 mb.
 
 Looks like sysinstalls defaults.
 Maybe this should be fixed some fine day :-)
 
 yesterday i was told asked to start archiving httpd-access.logs for 
 analysis over longer periods of time - that i should be keeping a year's 
 worth of logs, if possible.  i remember the original reason i set up 
 newsyslog.conf to rotate httpd-access.logs on this machine so frequently 
 is because the webserver is really busy, and this file tends to grow 
 pretty rapidly, and i didn't want to have to log in, stop apache, and 
 archive the logs by hand every day...
 
 yesterday i looked into expanding the size of my /var partition by 
 symlinking.
 
 -drop to single user mode
 -stop syslogd
 -mv /var to /usr/var
 -umount /var
 -delete /var directory
 -create symlink from /usr/var to /var
 
 That's really bad, because this means that there will be permanent
 write accesses to you /usr label.
 
 A better way could be a cron job which moves the old http-logs
 once a day into a place in /usr, eg. /usr/save-logs.
 
 it seems easy, and i did it successfully once, but i hosed a 
 (non)production box yesterday practicing the above procedure.
 
 i have a number of questions:
 -if i copy the contents of /var to /usr/var, then delete the var 
 directory, do i need to modify my fstab?
 
 If you've done it as described, that would be better.
 But I think you should re-think about the procedure.
 
 my fstab right now looks like
 
 /dev/aacd0s1g   /usrufs rw  2   2
 /dev/aacd0s1e   /varufs rw  2   2
 
 -do i need to modify this so that /var now points to a directory inside 
 /usr? and how?
 -i'm thinking that this may be too risky a procedure to try on a 
 production box (i guess i'm spooked from ruining the practice box...) - 
 anyone think i should just archive these logs by hand to someplace in my 
 home directory (/usr is very large on this box - 65 gb - and hardly used)? 
 my goal is basically to keep an archive of httpd-access.logs for as long 
 as possible to produce a comprehensive webalizer report...
 
 thanks again
 
 redmond
 
 Best,
 Jens
 

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Re: FreeBSD SPAM

2003-10-03 Thread Fernando Gleiser
On Fri, 3 Oct 2003, Joseph Koenig wrote:

 I know this is an issue that comes up a lot, but I wanted to get an opinion
 from some people on the list. We, along with everyone else, have TONS of
 SPAM hit our server. Unfortunately, we haven't found any good way to reduce
 it. We're using ORDB and SpamCop, but neither are really doing the job.
 We're a small small company (7 employees) with about 100 mailboxes on the
 server. We don't mind paying for a service that works, but we are certainly
 on a tight budget. Any recommendations would be greatly appreciated.
 Currently, we're using Sendmail, although we're considering (and testing) a
 switch to PostFix. TIA for any advice,

Try SpamAssassin (mail/p5-Mail-SpamAssassin). I use it in many of
the servers I administer and it works great. it has Bayesian
filters, so it can learn to tell spam from ham.

I don't use any ORBL directly, since for me they're more trouble
than they're worth, but I use them to bump the spamassassin score.

SpamAssassin also integrates very nicely with MIMEDefang to stop
malware sent via email.

Hope this helps

Fer


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RE: FreeBSD SPAM

2003-10-03 Thread Barry Byrne
Joseph:

We use a combination of a number of DNSBLs and MIMEDefang/SpamAssassin,
which between them detect on average 66% of inbound mail as spam/virus, a
small amount of other spam gets through undetected, but it's very little.
MIMEDefang is a great solution that you can customize to suit your
environment, assuming you use sendmail and know a little perl.

 - Barry

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Harcourt Street, Dublin 2, Ireland


 I know this is an issue that comes up a lot, but I wanted to get
 an opinion
 from some people on the list. We, along with everyone else, have TONS of
 SPAM hit our server. Unfortunately, we haven't found any good way
 to reduce
 it. We're using ORDB and SpamCop, but neither are really doing the job.
 We're a small small company (7 employees) with about 100 mailboxes on the
 server. We don't mind paying for a service that works, but we are
 certainly
 on a tight budget. Any recommendations would be greatly appreciated.
 Currently, we're using Sendmail, although we're considering (and
 testing) a
 switch to PostFix. TIA for any advice,

 Joe

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Re: FreeBSD vs. RedHat

2003-10-03 Thread Jerry McAllister

 
 
 
 FreeBSD is a child of System V, so UNIX.  Linux was written from scratch 
 by Linus with the GNU Public License, as opposed to FreeBSD which 
 originated from BSD, which originated from System V.
  
  No doubt you will hear a lot of corrections to your statement.
  That is because it is not true.First of all, System V is a UNIX,
  but UNIX is not a System V.   You sound like you have confused which
  set is the larger and contains the other set.   The set of all UNIX 
  contains System V (and BSD and Linux).   The set of all System V does
 
you can't say that linux is unix. both legally (somebody would have 
 to pay) and because it's independent implementation. you can call them 
 unix-like

Technically correct, but everybody still says it that way, just
like almost everyone calls a Canon or other brand photo copier
a xerox machine and other brands of geletin dessert jello.   As
long as they keep the distinction clear in their official paper-work
the remaining misstatements will go by the wayside and cause no
misunderstanding.

 ...
  Linux started with supposedly a clean (in the same sense that BSD
  was cleaned of Bell Labs code) System V type of kernel and people then
  added on all the rest of the stuff, also supposedly clean code.  Now
  Linux seems to be in the same place BSD was years ago proving they
  are clean and not using any code now owned by SCO.   I have no idea
  how clean it really is or how seriously SCO is in its claims or if
  it is just trying to position itself into a marketable position.
 
the difference is that linux started from scratch while bsd started 
 from bell code. not that it makes one or the other better but you can 
 say that bsd IS unix (one of them) but you cannot say that linux is unix.

The original BSD UNIX could legitimately be called UNIX as it came from 
Bell code.But, you can't really say that the Open-software BSDs are 
UNIX because even though they have a memory of Bell code, they got cleaned 
of it to eliminate the legal problems and essentially were re-written from 
scratch.   And Linux has some memory of System V even if it is clean of 
ATT-SCO owned code regardless of it supposedly being written from scratch.   
BSDs are about as scratch as Linuxen, but have memories of different and 
somewhat earlier families of UNIX.

jerry

 
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Re: FreeBSD SPAM

2003-10-03 Thread Matthew Bettinger
On Fri, 3 Oct 2003 11:42:11 -0300 (ART)
Fernando Gleiser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Fri, 3 Oct 2003, Joseph Koenig wrote:
 
  I know this is an issue that comes up a lot, but I wanted to get
  an opinion from some people on the list. We, along with everyone
  else, have TONS of SPAM hit our server. Unfortunately, we
  haven't found any good way to reduce it. We're using ORDB and
  SpamCop, but neither are really doing the job. We're a small
  small company (7 employees) with about 100 mailboxes on the
  server. We don't mind paying for a service that works, but we
  are certainly on a tight budget. Any recommendations would be
  greatly appreciated. Currently, we're using Sendmail, although
  we're considering (and testing) a switch to PostFix. TIA for any
  advice,
 

You might want to consider investigating a hardware appliance.  Two
that come to mind is 

Borderware MailXtreme and Bluecat Networks Meridius.

re,

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New branch on /usr/ports

2003-10-03 Thread Carmelo Zubeldia

Hi all,

I would like create a new branch on ports (spanish or espanol), how can i do it?.


Thxs

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Re: FreeBSD SPAM

2003-10-03 Thread Kliment Andreev
   I know this is an issue that comes up a lot, but I wanted to get
   an opinion from some people on the list. We, along with everyone
   else, have TONS of SPAM hit our server. Unfortunately, we
   haven't found any good way to reduce it. We're using ORDB and
   SpamCop, but neither are really doing the job. We're a small
   small company (7 employees) with about 100 mailboxes on the
   server. We don't mind paying for a service that works, but we
   are certainly on a tight budget. Any recommendations would be
   greatly appreciated. Currently, we're using Sendmail, although
   we're considering (and testing) a switch to PostFix. TIA for any

Check www.kaspersky.com for anti-virus and anti-spam tools for FreeBSD.
If you decide to use SpamAssassin and if you have a lot of spam-mail coming
and a slow server, mind that it will clog you CPU very, very soon.

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Re: New branch on /usr/ports

2003-10-03 Thread Matthew Seaman
On Fri, Oct 03, 2003 at 05:11:17PM +0200, Carmelo Zubeldia wrote:

 I would like create a new branch on ports (spanish or espanol), how can i do it?.

Join the [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list.  Lurk on the list for
a week or so, until you get the feel for the way things run there.  In
the mean time, read the Porter's Handbook --
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/porters-handbook/index.html
and prepare and submit as many Spanish related PRs (either new ports,
or updates to existing ports) as you can.  Find other like minded
Spanish speaking people and persuade them to do the same.

Then at some point propose to that list that since there are so many
Spanish language ports in the tree, perhaps it is high time for there
to be a new 'spanish' category, and give a list of ports that should
be moved into it.  (Curiously enough, language localised categories
always seem to be named after the Englist name for the language...)

If [EMAIL PROTECTED] agrees with you, and a ports committer is available to
commit the changes, then the new category will be created PDQ.

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Onboard Sound Card

2003-10-03 Thread Mihail Stoyanov
Hello,
I have Intel P4I865G Chipset with AC'97 v.2.2 onboard audio
and I would like to know if it is supported by the FreeBSD
4.8-Stable kernel. If it is - how can I bring my sound card
up ? What line should I add to my kernel configuration file
?
Thank you for your time and consideration.

Sincerelly,
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chroot and su user

2003-10-03 Thread Your Name
Hi all

Can you teach me what is the different between 
chroot and su user

Thank you
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Re: Onboard Sound Card

2003-10-03 Thread Kliment Andreev
 Hello,
 I have Intel P4I865G Chipset with AC'97 v.2.2 onboard audio
 and I would like to know if it is supported by the FreeBSD
 4.8-Stable kernel. If it is - how can I bring my sound card
 up ? What line should I add to my kernel configuration file

It might work with pcm driver.

http://www.freebsd.org/releases/4.8R/hardware-i386.html#AEN1685

Audio howto

http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/sound-setup.html




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calcru: negative time of...

2003-10-03 Thread Roman Yashin
I guess this probably came up before, but I could find any helpful info 
in the list's archive...
I am getting a lot of calcru: negative time of I am on 5.1 
RELEASE.
I have tried troubleshooting hints but without luck.

sysctl -w kern.timecounter.method=1 gives me sysctl: unknown oid 
'kern.timecounter.method'

Could somebody point me to the right direction? Please!

Thanks a lot.

-Roman

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Re: Archives

2003-10-03 Thread DoubleF
On Fri, 3 Oct 2003 01:45:23 +0200 Simon Barner [EMAIL PROTECTED] probably wrote:

 Hi,
 
  I am new to this list and in an attempt to avoid asking the same question over 
  and over I was wondeing if there is an archive of messages that the public 
  has access to?
 
 The official archive of this mailing list is at
 http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/, but I find
 http://freebsd.ramblers.ru/ more intuitive.

That's http://freebsd.rambler.ru/;, in fact.

 
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Re: var partition is too small

2003-10-03 Thread Redmond Militante
hello

i have a practice box set up, i've been trying to resizing /var by symlinking it to 
/usr/var

in theory this is simple - my methodology is

drop to single user mode
fsck -p
mount -u /
mount -a -t ufs
swapon -a
adjkerntz -i
mkdir /usr/var
cd /var
cp -R * /usr/var
cd ../
mv /var /var-old
ln -s /usr/var
comment out the var line in fstab
reboot


-this works, except the permissions in the var directory are lost.  dmesg shows that 
/var/spool/clientmqueue needs to be owned by smmsp:smmsp and be chmod 770.  i get 
around this by going to one of my backups, unzipping the var directory, and trying the 
above procedure again, only this time mv'ing the /var contents i extracted from backup 
into /usr/var

this seems to work ok - no errors in dmesg - however, i was using the machine, and i 
opened up mutt - mutt complained about /var/tmp's permissions not being set right.

so - it looks like i may run the risk of losing the correct permissions on some 
files/directories in var if i decide to try symlinking to give my var partition more 
space...

is there anything i'm missing?  i'd really like this to go seamlessly...

thanks again
redmond




[Fri, Oct 03, 2003 at 11:32:30AM -0400]
This one time, at band camp, Robert Huff said:

 
 Redmond Militante writes:
 
   which sets httpd-access.log to be rotated in binary format
   everytime it reaches 100 mb or once every hour for 24 hours.
 
   the /var partition on this machine is 252 mb.
 
   In my opinion, if you acknowledge the real possibility of
 haveing a 100mb file (never mind 100 users' mailboxes) there then
 /var is _way_ too small.   I would have 500mb, and do 1gb if I could
 afford it.
 
 
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ATI Radeon IGP 340M

2003-10-03 Thread Juan Rodriguez Hervella
Hello,

Im not able to configure XF86Config to work
with this chipset, I'm currently using vesa driver.

Has anyone ever had something better than vesa ?
I'm using XFree86-4.3.0 on FreeBSD-4.8-RELEASE

Please answer me directly because I'm not subscribe 
to the list. Thanks!

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Re: Archives

2003-10-03 Thread Simon Barner
  The official archive of this mailing list is at
  http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/, but I find
  http://freebsd.ramblers.ru/ more intuitive.
 
 That's http://freebsd.rambler.ru/;, in fact.

Oops. Thanks for the correction!

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Re: chroot and su user

2003-10-03 Thread Matthew Seaman
On Fri, Oct 03, 2003 at 11:45:47AM -0400, Your Name wrote:

 Can you teach me what is the different between 
 chroot and su user

Even a cursory glance at the chroot(8) and su(1) man pages will answer
this.  'chroot' is change root directory: that is confine a process
and all of it's children to a subsection of the disk space. 'su' is
substitute user identity -- run programs using the identity and
credentials of a different user.

Cheers,

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Re: Onboard Sound Card

2003-10-03 Thread Mike Maltese
device pcm  should work.


 
- Original Message - 
From: Mihail Stoyanov [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, October 03, 2003 8:12 AM
Subject: Onboard Sound Card


 Hello,
 I have Intel P4I865G Chipset with AC'97 v.2.2 onboard audio
 and I would like to know if it is supported by the FreeBSD
 4.8-Stable kernel. If it is - how can I bring my sound card
 up ? What line should I add to my kernel configuration file
 ?
 Thank you for your time and consideration.

 Sincerelly,
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upgrading sendmail-8.12.10 from /usr/ports

2003-10-03 Thread Noah

FreeBSD 4.8-Stable


okay I jsut installed sendmail-8.12.10 from /usr/ports the other day.  and I
try to start version 8.12.10 but 8.12.9 still gets executed.   this is really
strange?

from /etc/mail/Makefile

 snip  -

SENDMAIL?=  /usr/local/sbin/sendmail
MAKEMAP?=   /usr/local/sbin/makemap

--- snip 


these files were updated October 2nd.

--- snip ---

# ls -l /usr/local/sbin/sendmail  
-r-xr-sr-x  1 root  smmsp  660582 Oct  2 18:47 /usr/local/sbin/sendmail
# ls -l /usr/local/sbin/makemap   
-r-xr-xr-x  1 bin  bin  82495 Oct  2 18:47 /usr/local/sbin/makemap

--- snip ---

but going to port 25 - version 8.12.9 is getting run:

# telnet 127.0.0.1 25 
Trying 127.0.0.1...
Connected to localhost
Escape character is '^]'.
220 localhost ESMTP Sendmail 8.12.9/8.12.10; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 10:44:45 -0700 (PDT)

--- snip ---

what am I doing wrong?

- Noah

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opera

2003-10-03 Thread Andy Harrison
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Anyone had any luck getting java working with Opera?

I'm using the port opera-7.20.20030925 and the freebsd native java port
jdk-1.3.1p8_2.  

My ~/.opera/javapath.txt file reads:

/usr/local/jdk1.3.1/jre/lib/i386/

I'm starting opera with the default shell script at /usr/X11R6/bin/opera.

It will either not start at all, or sometimes:

 /usr/X11R6/bin/opera
Segmentation fault (core dumped)

with a corresponding messages log entry of:

Oct  2 16:26:44 andy /kernel: pid 751 (works), uid 1002: exited on signal 11
(core dumped)

No, I do not have the linux version of opera installed as well.



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Raid 5 - Vinum or Raidframe?

2003-10-03 Thread billn
Plus some other questions. I'm currently unable to get vinum to work in
FreeBSD 4.8, even after careful reading of the docs. 

4.8 is giving me Operation Not Permitted when I attempt to start
vinum. I've read the 4.8 specific section in the docs, followed it.
Still no joy.

Muchly thanks for any assistance.

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Re: Raid 5 - Vinum or Raidframe?

2003-10-03 Thread synrat
Are you root ?


On Fri, 3 Oct 2003, billn wrote:

 Plus some other questions. I'm currently unable to get vinum to work in
 FreeBSD 4.8, even after careful reading of the docs.

 4.8 is giving me Operation Not Permitted when I attempt to start
 vinum. I've read the 4.8 specific section in the docs, followed it.
 Still no joy.

 Muchly thanks for any assistance.

 Bill Nicholls
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trafshow

2003-10-03 Thread Chris Appleton
Hello,

I have installed my first port!  But don't appear to know where to run
it from...  Getting file not found all over but can read the man so
believe it's there.

If this question belongs somewhere else, let me know that also.

Thanks advance,
Chris

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Re: Making packages with dependicies

2003-10-03 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Fri, Oct 03, 2003 at 01:01:25PM +0300, Murat USTUNTAS wrote:
 Hello all,
 
 I have a little question on packages. I created /usr/posts/packages 
 directory.
 Then, i go to the program port directory then make package eveything is ok.
 But, the program dependecy packages not in All directory..
 What is the command from ports making packages wits the dependies?

make package-recursive

 
 Regards
 
 Murat
 
 
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using use.perl

2003-10-03 Thread Gary Schenk
I'm running 4.7-RELEASE as my home desktop. I've compiled perl 5.8 from 
the ports. It was installed in /usr/local/bin/perl.

After that installation # perl -v resulted in perl, version  5.005_3

# /usr/local/bin/perl -v resulted in perl, v 5.8.0

If I call /usr/local/bin/perl in my scripts, I realize that the new 
version will be used. 

However after running the command # use.perl port, I wonder if old 
scripts that call /usr/bin/perl will be interpreted under v 5.8.0.

If there was a symbolic link placed between /usr/local/bin/perl and 
/usr/bin/perl which version would be used?

Thanks for straightening out my confusion.

Gary Schenk
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Re: trafshow

2003-10-03 Thread Kliment Andreev
 I have installed my first port!  But don't appear to know where to run
 it from...  Getting file not found all over but can read the man so
 believe it's there.

# cd /usr/ports/net/trafshow
# make all install clean
...
# trafshow
trafshow: Command not fount
# rehash
# trafshow

 :)))

This is most common error with csh shell. Use rehash or just log off and log
back on,

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RC1 ... PGP signing ...

2003-10-03 Thread Robert G. Waycott
My friend just notified me that rc1 is out. I have been working the past
few days, so was not aware. Now, I wonder if I must reinstall the system
with an rc1 .iso, or if a CVSup, portupgrade/make world will do?

Second question: why do many users on the list PGP sign messages? Is
there something nefarious out there about which I should worry? Is
PGP-signing really providing a great deal of security?

Esse quam videri,

--Bob.

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LANG changed with recent buildworld

2003-10-03 Thread Lee Harr
Hi;

I cvsup'd to RELENG_4 today and rebuilt my system. Now the LANG environment
variable has been set to de_DE.ISO8859-1
I do not remember seeing anything about this while running mergemaster,
and I do not see where it is set in make.conf or anywhere else in /etc
Did I do something wrong?

Where should I be setting my choice for LANG?

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Group Calendar Server on FreeBSD?

2003-10-03 Thread rtjohan
Is there a group calendar software (client/server or peer-to-peer) 
solution that can run on FreeBSD?
Ideally has both a web front end as well as a client application.

Thanks for any tips,
Richard
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Trouble installing Endeavour Mark 2 from source.

2003-10-03 Thread Dragoncrest
I decided to give up on Konquer as a file manager (sucks royally
anyways) and switch to Endeavour.  The version 1.x is kinda lame so I
went to try and install the Mark II 2.x version from the source on the
homepage.  It won't install.  I did what it said to do for freebsd and
configure said that all was good minus an option file that was missing.
 So I went and did Make All like it said and it complained about 2 key
files missing.  So I go up into the Endeavour directory and tried to
build it directly from there.  It says that the first file it wants to
build is missing.

Can anyone help me get this installed?  Or do I have to write the ports
people to have them do a port of this for the ports tree?  I'd realy
like to start using this soon if possible.  Thanks.

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Re: RC1 ... PGP signing ...

2003-10-03 Thread Guy Van Sanden
On Fri, 2003-10-03 at 20:15, Robert G. Waycott wrote:
 My friend just notified me that rc1 is out. I have been working the past
 few days, so was not aware. Now, I wonder if I must reinstall the system
 with an rc1 .iso, or if a CVSup, portupgrade/make world will do?
 
 Second question: why do many users on the list PGP sign messages? Is
 there something nefarious out there about which I should worry? Is
 PGP-signing really providing a great deal of security?
 

Although I don't sign my messages to mailing lists, PGP signatures are a
good way to determine if a message really came from the person that the
headers indicate.  If you are really sure that a particular key belongs
to someone, than you can rest assure that a message signed by that key
came from the sender (unless he got his private key and passphrase
stolen) *and* that the message arrived unchanged.

You can do a lot of damage by either forging E-mails from someone, or
modifying E-mails (I saw that kind of stuff in my college-days, some
kids send offensive Emails to teachers from other kids addresses).
No PGP signatures should solve this problem.

One cautionary note, PGP/Mime signed mails are not displayed by Outlook
at all (its MIME implementation is a complete mess).


 Esse quam videri,
 
 --Bob.
 
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Where to find pam_unix documentation?

2003-10-03 Thread twig les
Hey *, I'm trying to do something fairly simple.  On a 4.6
Release box I would like to force all users to choose passwords
over a certain length and of a certain complexity.  Now before
anyone jumps and says to edit /etc/login.conf, please note that
I tried that and it did not work.  I don't want to get into too
much detail there because my req's that management handed down
go beyond the stated abilities there anyway; I need PAM.

So basically from the docs here:
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/pam/pam-freebsd-modules.html
I gather that the module I need is pam_unix, but when I look for
the man page...nothing.  I've spent about an hour on google now
also and found plenty of developers and admins talking about
using it, but nothing resembling a man page or even a how-to.

Specifically I need to enforce the use of a mix of alphanumeric
and special chars, a minimum length, passwd expiration (with
forewarning preferably), passwd history, and account lockouts. 
Note: I will gladly RTFM.  Muchas thnx.

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[OT] PGP signing ...

2003-10-03 Thread Simon Barner
 Second question: why do many users on the list PGP sign messages? Is
 there something nefarious out there about which I should worry? 

One reason why I personally sign my email to the mailing lists is
that there is lots of spam with forged From-adresses (and that does not
only apply to spam). When you recieve a signed message from me, you can
be somewhat more sure that that message really orginates from me (unless
you think I sent some spam without signature, of course, or someone
somehow got my private key).

Another reason is to spread the word and make digitally signed email a
more common thing.

Something that has got to do with both points is that IMO you have to
sign every single message or none in order not to confuse people.

 Is
 PGP-signing really providing a great deal of security?

The most important thing is of course, that there is the often-quoted
web of trust, i.e. that the key an incoming is signed with is trusted by
the receiver - I admit at least for my own part, that is not the case
far too often.

Regards,
 Simon


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building sendmail-sasl-8.12.10 problems

2003-10-03 Thread Noah
FreeBSD 4.8-STABLE machine

okay I just built sendmail-sasl version 8.12.10 from
/usr/ports/mail/sendmail-sasl but my system is complaining that SASL support
is required. what am I doing wrong.  why isnt SASL support being recognized?

sasl2 'PORTVERSION=2.1.15' is in /usr/ports

--- make stop  make start from /etc/mail ---
# make start  [/etc/mail]
Starting: sendmailWarning: Option: AuthMechanisms requires SASL support (-DSASL)
Warning: Option: AuthOptions requires SASL support (-DSASL)
 sendmail-clientmqueue.
--- snip 

from the /etc/mail/hurricane.enabled.com.mc file

--- snip ---
### password authentication for relaying only
define(`confAUTH_OPTIONS', `p y')dnl
define(`confAUTH_MECHANISMS', `LOGIN PLAIN')dnl
TRUST_AUTH_MECH(`LOGIN PLAIN')dnl
define(`confCACERT_PATH',`/usr/local/openssl/certs')
define(`confCACERT',`/usr/local/openssl/certs/ca-bundle.crt')
define(`confSERVER_CERT',`/usr/local/openssl/certs/sendmail.pem')
define(`confSERVER_KEY',`/usr/local/openssl/certs/sendmail.pem')
#define(`confCLIENT_CERT', `/usr/local/openssl/certs/sendmail.pem')dnl
#define(`confCLIENT_KEY', `/usr/local/openssl/certs/sendmail.pem')dnl
--- snip ---
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RE: FreeBSD SPAM

2003-10-03 Thread Sean Page
Granted it's not an inexpensive solution, but we switched from SpamAssassin
to PureMessage by ActiveState.
http://www.activestate.com/Products/PureMessage 
We are thoroughly impressed with the accuracy and the dynamic feature set of
the product. Automatic updates come down at least a couple of times a week
to keep up with the latest tactics, and the support is second to none.
Just my $.02 worth

Sean.

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From: Kliment Andreev [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: October 3, 2003 9:23 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: FreeBSD  SPAM


   I know this is an issue that comes up a lot, but I wanted to get 
   an opinion from some people on the list. We, along with everyone 
   else, have TONS of SPAM hit our server. Unfortunately, we haven't 
   found any good way to reduce it. We're using ORDB and SpamCop, but 
   neither are really doing the job. We're a small small company (7 
   employees) with about 100 mailboxes on the server. We don't mind 
   paying for a service that works, but we are certainly on a tight 
   budget. Any recommendations would be greatly appreciated. 
   Currently, we're using Sendmail, although we're considering (and 
   testing) a switch to PostFix. TIA for any

Check www.kaspersky.com for anti-virus and anti-spam tools for FreeBSD. If
you decide to use SpamAssassin and if you have a lot of spam-mail coming and
a slow server, mind that it will clog you CPU very, very soon.

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explain annoying You have XXX mail messages

2003-10-03 Thread Fernan Aguero
Hi!

I'd like to understand why every time I open a new terminal
(or just type 'csh' in a terminal) I get a message similar
to:

You have XXX mail messages.

The default mailbox (/var/mail/fernan) is empty, since I
use procmail to deliver messages to several different
mailboxes under ~/mail.

Still, I keep receving this message all the time. Right now
it says I have 50 messages. What are they? Where are they?

I've already read the man pages for csh(1), looked in 
sourced rc files (~/.cshrc, /etc/csh.cshrc, ~/.login,
/etc/csh.login) and, as far as I can see, there is nothing
that looks like checking on available messages.

It's been also difficult to google a common phrase like 'you
have mail messages' to look for already answered questions.

I apologize is this is a FAQ.

Thanks in advance,

Fernan

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Re: Upgrading FreeBSD.

2003-10-03 Thread Naveen Glore
Hello,
 
mergemaster will take care of /etc. But how about the other configuration files?, 
Could you please tell me where i can find proper documentation for upgrading 
freebsd4.5 to 4.8.


Kris Kennaway [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Oct 02, 2003 at 08:13:59AM -0700, 
Naveen Glore wrote:
 Hello all,
 I have a freeBSD 4.5-Release server. I could not find any packages available for 4.5 
 version at freebsd ftp site. So i decided to upgrade it to FreeBSD 4.8-Release. Can 
 i upgrade the server without any change in its current configuration.

There are always changes to the configuration files in /etc as part of
the ongoing development of FreeBSD. One of the upgrade steps is to
run the mergemaster utility, which lets you merge in these changes
into your existing configuration files. Please read the associated
documentation, and remember to make a full backup before attempting
any upgrades.

Kris


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Re: trafshow

2003-10-03 Thread Michael W. Oliver
On Fri, Oct 03, 2003 at 10:56:42AM -0700, Chris Appleton wrote:
 Hello,
 
 I have installed my first port!  But don't appear to know where to run
 it from...  Getting file not found all over but can read the man so
 believe it's there.
 
 If this question belongs somewhere else, let me know that also.
 
 Thanks advance,
 Chris

Hi Chris!

You can view the installation prefix and other goodies by using the
following command:

pkg_info -f trafshow-3.1_3

Of course, you would use the real name of the package that you have
installed.  In the case of trafshow, it would be:

/usr/local/bin/trafshow

Congratulations on your first port install... now are you ready to rebuild
your kernel?  ;-)

Welcome!

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init / (idle) CPU USAGE

2003-10-03 Thread James
Hello,

I just setup a new machine, And I installed 5.1 on the system. I have been using 
and running FreeBSD for over 3/4 years and I have never seen this problem. The 
question is if I killed pid #11 would init die? The process has been using 99% CPU for 
the past 2 days and wont stop. What is casuing this idle ghost process and cant it be 
stoped and can i kill it without problems. All replys will be appreciated. thanks


USER PID %CPU %MEM   VSZ  RSS  TT  STAT STARTED  TIME COMMAND
root  11 99.0  0.0 0   12  ??  RL9:27AM 509:10.58  (idle)
root  10  0.0  0.0 0   12  ??  DL9:27AM   0:00.00  (ktrace)
root   1  0.0  0.2   740  392  ??  ILs   9:27AM   0:00.06 /sbin/init --
root  12  0.0  0.0 0   12  ??  WL9:27AM   0:06.47  (swi1: net)
root  13  0.0  0.0 0   12  ??  WL9:27AM   0:16.53  (swi7: tty:sio 
clock)
root   2  0.0  0.0 0   12  ??  DL9:27AM   0:01.23  (g_event)
root   3  0.0  0.0 0   12  ??  DL9:27AM   0:01.24  (g_up)
root   4  0.0  0.0 0   12  ??  DL9:27AM   0:01.30  (g_down)
root  15  0.0  0.0 0   12  ??  DL9:27AM   0:02.91  (random)
root   5  0.0  0.0 0   12  ??  IL9:27AM   0:00.00  (acpi_task0)
root   6  0.0  0.0 0   12  ??  IL9:27AM   0:00.00  (acpi_task1)
root   7  0.0  0.0 0   12  ??  IL9:27AM   0:00.00  (acpi_task2)
root  23  0.0  0.0 0   12  ??  WL9:27AM   0:00.44  (irq14: ata0)
root  25  0.0  0.0 0   12  ??  WL9:27AM   0:06.89  (irq10: sis0)
root   8  0.0  0.0 0   12  ??  DL9:27AM   0:00.04  (pagedaemon)
root   9  0.0  0.0 0   12  ??  DL9:27AM   0:00.00  (vmdaemon)
root  30  0.0  0.0 0   12  ??  DL9:27AM   0:07.85  (pagezero)
root  31  0.0  0.0 0   12  ??  DL9:27AM   0:00.18  (bufdaemon)
root  32  0.0  0.0 0   12  ??  DL9:27AM   0:02.31  (syncer)
root  33  0.0  0.0 0   12  ??  DL9:27AM   0:00.17  (vnlru)
root  34  0.0  0.0 0   12  ??  IL9:27AM   0:00.00  (nfsiod 0)
root  35  0.0  0.0 0   12  ??  IL9:27AM   0:00.00  (nfsiod 1)
root  36  0.0  0.0 0   12  ??  IL9:27AM   0:00.00  (nfsiod 2)
root  37  0.0  0.0 0   12  ??  IL9:27AM   0:00.00  (nfsiod 3)

Thank You,
Mr. Thomas
Sr. UNIX Administrator


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Install latest 4.8?

2003-10-03 Thread Sean Hafeez
If I do a floppy boot and a FTP install will I get the latest patched 
version or 4.8 or do I still need to patch up?

Is there anyway I can do an FTP install of the latest patched version 
of 4.8? I do not want to go thru the CVS  compile thing.

Thanks!

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Re: init / (idle) CPU USAGE

2003-10-03 Thread Dan Nelson
In the last episode (Oct 03), James said:
 I just setup a new machine, And I installed 5.1 on the system. I
 have been using and running FreeBSD for over 3/4 years and I have
 never seen this problem. The question is if I killed pid #11
 would init die? The process has been using 99% CPU for the past 2
 days and wont stop. What is casuing this idle ghost process and
 cant it be stoped and can i kill it without problems. All replys
 will be appreciated. thanks
 
 
 USER PID %CPU %MEM   VSZ  RSS  TT  STAT STARTED  TIME COMMAND
 root  11 99.0  0.0 0   12  ??  RL9:27AM 509:10.58  (idle)

You can't kill it.  It's a pseudo-process that runs when no other
processes are runnable.

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Re: init / (idle) CPU USAGE

2003-10-03 Thread James
Ok so in other words the machine is not really using 99% cpu and the process
is ok. Hence my loads are  0.00

Thank You,
Mr. Thomas
Sr. Administrator

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From: Dan Nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: James [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, October 03, 2003 6:22 PM
Subject: Re: init / (idle) CPU USAGE


 In the last episode (Oct 03), James said:
  I just setup a new machine, And I installed 5.1 on the system. I
  have been using and running FreeBSD for over 3/4 years and I have
  never seen this problem. The question is if I killed pid #11
  would init die? The process has been using 99% CPU for the past 2
  days and wont stop. What is casuing this idle ghost process and
  cant it be stoped and can i kill it without problems. All replys
  will be appreciated. thanks
 
 
  USER PID %CPU %MEM   VSZ  RSS  TT  STAT STARTED  TIME
COMMAND
  root  11 99.0  0.0 0   12  ??  RL9:27AM 509:10.58
(idle)

 You can't kill it.  It's a pseudo-process that runs when no other
 processes are runnable.

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kernel panic at reboot/shutdown

2003-10-03 Thread Eric F Crist
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

Hey again,

I get the following message when I reboot/halt my system.  If someone could 
explain what it means and give me a hint on how to fix it, I'd really 
appreciate it.

Terminate ACPI

Fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode
fault virtual address   =0x18
fault code  =supervisor write, page not present
instruction pointer =0x8:0xc041462d
stack pointer   =0x10:0xd1c70c8c
frame pointer   =0x10:0xd1c70cb8
code segment=base 0x0, limit 0xf, type 0x1b
processor eflags=DPL 0, pres 1, def32 1, gran 1
=interrupt enabled, resume, 10PL=0
current process =22 (irq 9: dc0 uhci0+)
trap number =12
panic: page fault
uptime 8h59m48x
Terminate ACPI

Automatic reboot in 15 seconds - press a key on the console to abort
- --Press a key on the console to reboot,
- --or switch off the system now.

Thanks for all your help!
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AdTech Integrated Systems, Inc
(952) 403-9000
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Re: using use.perl

2003-10-03 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Fri, Oct 03, 2003 at 11:04:16AM -0700, Gary Schenk wrote:
 I'm running 4.7-RELEASE as my home desktop. I've compiled perl 5.8 from 
 the ports. It was installed in /usr/local/bin/perl.
 
 After that installation # perl -v resulted in perl, version  5.005_3
 
 # /usr/local/bin/perl -v resulted in perl, v 5.8.0
 
 If I call /usr/local/bin/perl in my scripts, I realize that the new 
 version will be used. 
 
 However after running the command # use.perl port, I wonder if old 
 scripts that call /usr/bin/perl will be interpreted under v 5.8.0.
 
 If there was a symbolic link placed between /usr/local/bin/perl and 
 /usr/bin/perl which version would be used?

That's precisely what use.perl does:

xor# ls -l /usr/bin/perl
lrwxr-xr-x  1 root  wheel  19 Jun 19 17:34 /usr/bin/perl - /usr/local/bin/perl

Therefore, scripts that call /usr/bin/perl will execute the version
installed in /usr/local/bin/perl, i.e. 5.8.0 in your case.

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CMedia8738

2003-10-03 Thread Gabriel Striewe
On my Athlon 2000XP+ under FreeBSD 5.1 I have installed a Trust Soundcard 511 5.1 
Sound Expert Digital. I compiled a new kernel with device pcm. After typing grep 
pcm /var/run/dmesg.boot I get: 

pcm0: CMedia CMI8738 port 0xe400-0xef44 irq 5 at device 7.0 on pci0

but as in the FreeBSD handbook, I should get something like on sbc0 at the end, 
which is not the case here.

Has anybody yet made this chipset (CMedia8738) running under FreeBSD 5.1

Thanks for any hints

Gabriel
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Re: init / (idle) CPU USAGE

2003-10-03 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Fri, Oct 03, 2003 at 06:26:36PM -0400, James wrote:
 Ok so in other words the machine is not really using 99% cpu and the process
 is ok. Hence my loads are  0.00

Yes.  See the archives for more discussion..this is turning into a FAQ.

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Re: explain annoying You have XXX mail messages

2003-10-03 Thread Lowell Gilbert
Fernan Aguero [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 The default mailbox (/var/mail/fernan) is empty, since I
 use procmail to deliver messages to several different
 mailboxes under ~/mail.
 
 Still, I keep receving this message all the time. Right now
 it says I have 50 messages. What are they? Where are they?

# echo $MAIL

should tell you...
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Problem with comserv

2003-10-03 Thread J. Seth Henry
Hello,
I'm trying to use the comserv daemon in the ports tree to share a SIIG
Cyber 4S multiport serial board. The ports work locally, and it appears
that comserv is, in fact, working. However, I can't write to the ports
once I open them on the remote end.

I don't think it is a permissions problem. I changed the ownership of
/dev/cuaa? to root:wheel, and assigned permissions 664. Other programs
running as root can access the ports properly.

gearbox# ls -l | grep cuaa
crw-rw-r--   1 root  wheel  28, 128 Oct  3 19:43 cuaa0
crw-rw-r--   1 root  wheel  28, 129 Oct  3 16:40 cuaa1
crw-rw-r--   1 root  wheel  28, 130 Oct  3 16:13 cuaa2
crw-rw-r--   1 root  wheel  28, 131 Oct  3 16:13 cuaa3
crw-rw-r--   1 root  wheel  28, 132 Oct  3 16:13 cuaa4

Lastly, when connecting to the comserv control port, typing status
produces this:

comservd status
COMSERV revision timestamp 2002/06/20 01:52:48 GMT
logdir = /var/log
devdir = /usr/local/comserv
Srl  TCP   Local Endpoint  Remote Endpoint
Id  HostPort Port  Device  Conn Fd  Rd Wr Data Conn Fd  Rd Wr
Data
--- ---  - ---  --- -- --   --- -- --

comserv0 0 comserv  yes   5  X   0   no
rcom2   gearbox2  2200 statnet  yes   4  X   0  yes   9  X  
0
rcom3   gearbox3  2300 rcuaa2   yes   6  X   0  yes  10  X  
0
rcom4   gearbox4  2400 rcuaa3   yes   7  X   0  yes  11  X  
0
rcom5   gearbox5  2500 rcuaa4   yes   8  X   0  yes  12  X  
0

(sorry for the wrap)

I configured the server as such:

# default directory for device log files
logdir /var/log

# default directory from which to make symlinks to /dev pty's
devdir /usr/local/comserv

# a control port that we can use to issue commands to the daemon
ctl comserv comserv

# don't block the remote side of a connection if there is no one
# listening locally
set default options=noblock

# Serve up our own local serial ports com1 and com2 at ports 2100 and
# 2200 respectively
#
#   DevId  Device  Com#  TCP/IP Port  LogFile Spec
#   -  --    ---  
#serve  com1   /dev/cuaa0 1 2100  nolog
serve  com2   /dev/cuaa1 2 2200  log
serve  com3   /dev/cuaa2 3 2300  log
serve  com4   /dev/cuaa3 4 2400  log
serve  com5   /dev/cuaa4 5 2500  log

#DevId  Device   TermSrv   TermsrvTermSrv  LogFile
#   Symlink  Hostname   Port #  TCP/IP Port # Spec
#-  ---    ---  -  ---
add   mir0  statnet   gearbox1   2200  nolog
add   mir1   lcuaa2   gearbox2   2300  nolog
add   mir2   lcuaa3   gearbox3   2400  nolog
add   mir3   lcuaa4   gearbox4   2500  nolog

Note that the local serial ports are also mirrored by comservd on the
local host. These don't work properly either.

I configured the client as such:

# default directory for device log files
logdir /var/log

# default directory from which to make symlinks to /dev pty's
devdir /usr/local/comserv

# a control port that we can use to issue commands to the daemon
ctl comserv comserv

# don't block the remote side of a connection if there is no one
# listening locally
set default options=noblock

# Serve up our own local serial ports com1 and com2 at ports 2100 and
# 2200 respectively
#
#   DevId  Device  Com#  TCP/IP Port  LogFile Spec
#   -  --    ---  
#serve  com1   /dev/cuaa0 1 2100  nolog
#serve  com2   /dev/cuaa1 2 2200  nolog


#DevId  Device   TermSrv   TermsrvTermSrv  LogFile
#   Symlink  Hostname   Port #  TCP/IP Port # Spec
#-  ---    ---  -  ---
add  rcom2  statnet   gearbox2   2200  nolog
add  rcom3   rcuaa2   gearbox3   2300  nolog
add  rcom4   rcuaa3   gearbox4   2400  nolog
add  rcom5   rcuaa4   gearbox5   2500  nolog


It would appear that comserv is the one preventing the write access, but
poking through the man pages revealed nothing about this. The log files
which should be created on the server are empty.

Any help is greatly appreciated,
Seth Henry

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Diskless 4.8

2003-10-03 Thread Andrew White
Hi,

Wondering if there is someone that can help me with setting up Diskless
?

I have got a far as booting the kernel, dhcp gets address, root-path,
swap-path and swap-size, then.

Adjusted interface xl0
Shutdown interface faith0
Mounted root from nfs:
NFS ROOT: 192.168.1.2:/pxeroot
NFS SWAP: 192.168.1.2:/netswapvolume/netswap/

And then the system hangs indefinitely (I assume while doing something
with /sbin/init)

Two other quick questions

1) does diskless work in 5.1 
2) can pcmcia be used for diskless (I don't think the card is recognized
in time for boot)

Thanks in advance !

.Andrew


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How to get best results from FreeBSD-questions

2003-10-03 Thread Greg Lehey
How to get the best results from FreeBSD questions.
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Last update $Date: 2003/03/09 22:09:31 $

This is a regular posting to the FreeBSD questions mailing list.  If
you got it in answer to a message you sent, it means that the sender
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If you have done any of these things, there is a good chance that you
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Read on, and your next message will be more successful.

This document is also available on the web at
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Contents:

I:Introduction
II:   How to unsubscribe from FreeBSD-questions
III:  Should I ask -questions, -newbies or -hackers?
IV:   How to submit a question to FreeBSD-questions
V:How to answer a question to FreeBSD-questions

I: Introduction
===

This is a regular posting aimed to help both those seeking advice from
FreeBSD-questions (the newcomers), and also those who answer the
questions (the hackers).

   Note that the term hacker has nothing to do with breaking
   into other people's computers.  The correct term for the latter
   activity is cracker, but the popular press hasn't found out
   yet.  The FreeBSD hackers disapprove strongly of cracking
   security, and have nothing to do with it.

In the past, there has been some friction which stems from the
different viewpoints of the two groups.  The newcomers accused the
hackers of being arrogant, stuck-up, and unhelpful, while the hackers
accused the newcomers of being stupid, unable to read plain English,
and expecting everything to be handed to them on a silver platter.  Of
course, there's an element of truth in both these claims, but for the
most part these viewpoints come from a sense of frustration.

In this document, I'd like to do something to relieve this frustration
and help everybody get better results from FreeBSD-questions.  In the
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we'll look at how to answer one.

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The Complete FreeBSD: errata and addenda

2003-10-03 Thread Greg Lehey
The trouble with books is that you can't update them the way you can a web page
or any other online documentation.  The result is that most leading edge
computer books are out of date almost before they are printed.  Unfortunately,
The Complete FreeBSD, published by O'Reilly, is no exception.  Inevitably, a
number of bugs and changes have surfaced.

The Complete FreeBSD has been through a total of five editions, including its
predecessor Installing and Running FreeBSD.  Two of these have been reprinted
with corrections.  I maintain a series of errata pages.  Start at
http://www.lemis.com/errata-4.html to find out how to get the errata
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Re: Raid 5 - Vinum or Raidframe?

2003-10-03 Thread Greg 'groggy' Lehey
On Friday,  3 October 2003 at 10:49:30 -0700, billn wrote:
 Plus some other questions. I'm currently unable to get vinum to work in
 FreeBSD 4.8, even after careful reading of the docs.

 4.8 is giving me Operation Not Permitted when I attempt to start
 vinum. I've read the 4.8 specific section in the docs, followed it.
 Still no joy.

 Muchly thanks for any assistance.

You show me yours, I'll show you mine.  How can I help when I don't
know what you've done?  There are detailed instructions about how to
report problems in the man page, and also at
http://www.vinumvm.org/vinum/how-to-debug.html.

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Re: KDM and FreeBSD?

2003-10-03 Thread Alex de Kruijff
 Hey all,
 
 I'm a huge nut of the CLI, but my girlfriend is not.  I've gone through a 
 bunch of the documentation on 
 http://docs.kde.org/en/3.1/kdebase/kdm/Configuring-your-system-for-kdm.html 
 and have gotten as far as test whether I can run
 
 grog# kdm -nodeamon
 
 and I get a KDE login screen after a few breif seconds.  Now, how do I 
 implement this so that kdm initalizes at boot so my gf can use my FreeBSD 
 system without having to type what is, in her words, some arcane fucking 
 command from the old world of DOS.

Any script in /usr/local/etc/rc.d/ gets started at boot time. A script
usaly has a echo -n 'script name' that print a message at boot time.


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RE: KDM and FreeBSD?

2003-10-03 Thread Chris
Change this in /etc/ttys file - reboot, live happy.

ttyv8  /usr/local/bin/kdmxterm   on  secure




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 Sent: Friday, October 03, 2003 7:38 PM
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  Hey all,
 
  I'm a huge nut of the CLI, but my girlfriend is not.  I've gone
 through a
  bunch of the documentation on
 
 http://docs.kde.org/en/3.1/kdebase/kdm/Configuring-your-system-for
-kdm.html
 and have gotten as far as test whether I can run

 grog# kdm -nodeamon

 and I get a KDE login screen after a few breif seconds.  Now, how do I
 implement this so that kdm initalizes at boot so my gf can use my FreeBSD
 system without having to type what is, in her words, some arcane fucking
 command from the old world of DOS.

Any script in /usr/local/etc/rc.d/ gets started at boot time. A script
usaly has a echo -n 'script name' that print a message at boot time.


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Too little swap to dumpon

2003-10-03 Thread Alex Povolotsky
Hello!

I have on one of my boxes too little swap partition to dumpon on it. Actually, it is 
too little by several bytes

 # swapinfo 
Device  1K-blocks UsedAvail Capacity  Type
/dev/da0s1b   1048448  100  1048348 0%Interleaved
/dev/da1s1b   10484480  1048448 0%Interleaved
Total 2096896  100  2096796 0%


real memory  = 1073741824 (1048576K bytes)

but I still cannot dumpon.

Moreover, I don't need any dumping besides kernel memory.

Does there exist any solution to dump on two swap partition, or to dump only limited 
amount of memory, or to dump on both swap partitions? Or I have to repartition my disk?

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Re: How to get best results from FreeBSD-questions

2003-10-03 Thread Chris Pressey
On Fri,  3 Oct 2003 17:02:00 -0700 (PDT)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Greg Lehey) wrote:

 How to get the best results from FreeBSD questions.
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CUPS on 4.9 RC1

2003-10-03 Thread Michael Keener
Hello all,
after successfully loading Cups on 5.1 I attempted an install on 4.9 RC 1 , but I get 
the below listed errors,
RC 1 had to be loaded from expert mode because standard install has a bug that doesn't 
write to the swap file and errors out..
I was wondering if the above error is the problem..
Regards..Mike 

D [03/Oct/2003:17:38:42 -0700] [Job 2] perl: warning:
Setting locale failed.
D [03/Oct/2003:17:38:42 -0700] [Job 2] perl: warning:
Please check that your locale settings:
D [03/Oct/2003:17:38:42 -0700] [Job 2] LC_ALL =
(unset),
D [03/Oct/2003:17:38:42 -0700] [Job 2] LANG = en
D [03/Oct/2003:17:38:42 -0700] [Job 2] are supported
and installed on your system.
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Re: growing vinum raid 1+0

2003-10-03 Thread Greg 'groggy' Lehey
On Thursday,  2 October 2003 at 14:16:19 -0600, Matthew Emmett wrote:
 Hello all,

 I have a question about vinum.  I'd like to end up with a setup like
 this:

   disk1 mirrored with disk2 = mirror1

Vinum calls this a volume.

   disk3 mirrored with disk4 = mirror2

This is another volume.

   mirror2 concatenated with mirror1

This doesn't work.  You concatenate first, then mirror.

 I understand that this is a RAID 1+0 setup.  I'm pretty sure vinum
 can do RAID 1+0.

RAID-0 is striping.  This is RAID-1.

Vinum has four levels of objects:

  Drives, the physical hardware (more or less; they're really partitions).

  Subdisks, a contiguous chunk of a drive.

  Plexes, put together out of one or more subdisks.  This is where you
  would concatenate.

  Volumes, put together out of one or more plexes.  This is where you
  would mirror.

This doesn't really make much difference to what you want to do.

 Now, in the future, will I be able to add two more disks:

   disk5 mirrored with disk6 = mirror3

 and concatenate mirror3 with the other mirrors?  And then use growfs
 to expand the filesystem?

If you're not striping (i.e. RAID-1 only), you do this by adding
subdisks to each plex.  There are more details at
http://www.vinumvm.org/cfbsd/vinum.pdf.

Greg
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Re: Too little swap to dumpon

2003-10-03 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Sat, Oct 04, 2003 at 05:04:14AM +0400, Alex Povolotsky wrote:
 Hello!
 
 I have on one of my boxes too little swap partition to dumpon on it. Actually, it is 
 too little by several bytes
 
  # swapinfo 
 Device  1K-blocks UsedAvail Capacity  Type
 /dev/da0s1b   1048448  100  1048348 0%Interleaved
 /dev/da1s1b   10484480  1048448 0%Interleaved
 Total 2096896  100  2096796 0%
 
 
 real memory  = 1073741824 (1048576K bytes)
 
 but I still cannot dumpon.
 
 Moreover, I don't need any dumping besides kernel memory.
 
 Does there exist any solution to dump on two swap partition, or to dump only limited 
 amount of memory, or to dump on both swap partitions? Or I have to repartition my 
 disk?

Limit the amount of RAM used by FreeBSD by using the MAXMEM kernel
option or the corresponding loader tunable.

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Sound not working.

2003-10-03 Thread Bingrui Foo
Hi all,

I read the FreeBSD handbook and installed new kernel with 'device pcm'.
Also used 'cd /dev; sh MAKEDEV snd0'.

dmesg | grep pcm returns:
pcm0: CMedia CMI8738 port 0xa400-0xa4ff irq 10 at device 5.0 on pci0
pcm1: Creative EMU10K1 at device 9.0 on pci0
pcm1: unable to map register space
device_probe_and_attach: pcm1 attach returned 6

I used xmms to play a .wav and mplayer to play a .avi. No sound was
produced by sound card, but mplayer has video output.

Wondering what the problem could be. Thanks.

Foo

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small problem

2003-10-03 Thread Abhijeet
hi all,
i want to make a duplicate copy of a server hard disk  so that i get a 
reserver hdd with all settings if my present hdd fails. please tell me a 
way so that i can do this job very fast. i won't linke to make 
reinstall . please help me fast.

i have not tried using dd , will it work

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Re: AFS - OpenAFS

2003-10-03 Thread Garance A Drosihn
At 10:27 AM -0400 10/3/03, Jerry McAllister wrote:
 

  I am wondering how I might go about connecting to an AFS cell
  on my FreeBSD 4.8 system.  Any input would be helpful.
Currently, as far as I know, there is no version of AFS
client available for FreeBSD although I keep hearing about
openAFS coming.I wish it would.   We use AFS here and
so have to use something besides FreeBSD on those systems
that need AFS access - unfortunately.
For 4.x systems, you might be able to use the ARLA port.
It's an afs-compatible client.  I *think* it works under
the 4.x-branch, but I have never tried it.
But, I suppose creating a complete OpenAFS has ...

If someone has any more encouraging information than this,
please post it and indicate where this can best be tracked.
All that the OpenAFS client needs is more developers who have
time to work on it.  Recently Garrett Wollman has started to
work on getting OpenAFS to work on freebsd 5.x.  He is hoping
that he won't break the progress which has been made on the
openafs client for freebsd-4.x, but he does not have a lot of
4.x systems to test on, and he needs to concentrate on 5.x.
The openafs project has a web site at
http://www.openafs.org/
Recently a request went out to the openafs-info mailing list,
for people to help test Garrett's changes on the 4.x branch.
Ie, to take his changes for 5.x, and test those changes on
4.x to make sure that patches needed for 5.x will not cause
problems for 4.x.
There is also a openafs mailing list for the port of openafs
to freebsd.
So, Check:

https://lists.openafs.org/mailman/listinfo/port-freebsd
https://lists.openafs.org/mailman/listinfo/openafs-info
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permissions on umass device

2003-10-03 Thread Guy Middleton
On a 5.1-RELEASE system, I attach a umass device, and it appears in /dev like
this:

$ ls -l /dev/da3
crw-r-  1 root  operator4,  28 Sep 19 23:29 /dev/da3
$ 

How do I get it to use different permissions, or a different group?
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Re: var partition is too small

2003-10-03 Thread Rob
[ sorry about not quoting - braindead mail client ]

Moving a filesystem on a live server is *never* a risk-free activity. If
you intend to do this, use tar(1) or dump(8) instead of cp(1) - they
will deal with special files and other unusual conditions.

But if you haven't done this often enough to be confident, I wouldn't
start with  a production server.

Look at the -a option to newsyslog(8) - this allows you to put archived
files in a different directory to the live ones.

For example, I've modified /etc/crontab so that the newsyslog line reads

0 *   *   *   *   rootnewsyslog -a archives

This means that all the archived logs will end up in /var/log/archives.
If you create this directory as a symlink to a larger filesystem, then
/var only has to hold the current logs.

(Do this before changing the crontab, otherwise newsyslog will create
the directory for you.)

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Re: permissions on umass device

2003-10-03 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Fri, Oct 03, 2003 at 10:46:06PM -0400, Guy Middleton wrote:
 On a 5.1-RELEASE system, I attach a umass device, and it appears in /dev like
 this:
 
 $ ls -l /dev/da3
 crw-r-  1 root  operator4,  28 Sep 19 23:29 /dev/da3
 $ 
 
 How do I get it to use different permissions, or a different group?

/etc/devfs.conf

Kris


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FW: Too much swap space...best way to take some of it away

2003-10-03 Thread Keith Baumgart

Ok, I'm not totally a newbie but, I'm definitely no expert in FBSD. When I
was doing my original install, it was on a p100 w/ 32 megs of ram, so I gave
myself a 1 gig swap partition to help alleviate some of the server load.
Now, I have moved this install to a AMD K6/2 500MHz with 512 megs of RAM, so
I really don't need a 1 gig swap partition on only a 3 gig hard drive. What
is the best way to repartition this disk without having to reinstall? 
Here is my current disk structure:

Filesystem  1K-blocks   UsedAvail   Capacity
Mounted on
/dev/ad0s1a 253678  54430   178954  23% /
Devfs   1   1   0   100%/dev
/dev/ad0s1e 253678  26  233358  0%  /tmp
/dev/ad0s1f 1284302 688048  493510  58% /usr
/dev/ad0s1d 253678  31542   201842  14% /var
Thanks in advance

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Re: var partition is too small

2003-10-03 Thread Jez Hancock
On Fri, Oct 03, 2003 at 09:00:43AM -0500, Redmond Militante wrote:
 hi all
 
 the var partition on my apache box may be too small.
 this is a problem because - 
 i originally had newsyslog set at
 
 /var/log/httpd-access.log   644  7 100  24B /var/run/httpd.pid 30
fwiw I have the following entry in /etc/crontab:

0   *   *   *   *   root/home/munk/bin/sh/newsyslog.sh

where that script reads:

#!/bin/sh
YEAR=`date +%Y`
ROTATE_DIR=/home/munk/backup/log/$YEAR

if [ ! -d $ROTATE_DIR ]
then
mkdir $ROTATE_DIR
fi

/usr/sbin/newsyslog -a $ROTATE_DIR

/usr/sbin/chown -R root:wheel $ROTATE_DIR \
 /bin/chmod -R 750 $ROTATE_DIR

so the logfiles get rotated out into /home/munk/backup/log/$YEAR with
whatever compression/triggers are setup in /etc/newsyslog.conf.


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re: ATI Radeon IGP 340M

2003-10-03 Thread Mike Silbersack

Juan, it recently became possible to use the 340M in its native mode;
simply cvsup to the latest ports tree, and install the
XFree86-4-Server-snap port; the ati driver in it supports the 340M in my
laptop just fine.  (I have not tested any 3d or tv out functions,
however.)

Mike Silby Silbersack

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Re: FreeBSD4.5 release supports bigLBA( over 136GB HDD)?

2003-10-03 Thread kitsune
On Fri, 3 Oct 2003 22:46:42 +0900
topaz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Dear Sirs
 
 I have been using FreeBSD4.5 as a File server.
 
 I like to use 200GB  IDE HDD(WD 2000)  with FreeBSD4.5.
 
 BIOS supports bigLBA.
 
 Does  FreeBSD4.5 support big LBA/
 
 If not, which release of FreeBSD can support bigLBA?

Currently using a 160GB here with out problems.
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