Re: Is FreeBSD simple enough for Novices, Will FreeBSD accept Office 98 + Publisher?
On Fri, Apr 27, 2007 at 10:20:27PM -0400, james thompson wrote:
How difficult is FreeBSD to use in place of MS windows, say compared to
Apple OSX?
Setup is difficult to compare, since OSX always comes pre-installed, and
has a limited range of hardware to contend with.
FreeBSD is more difficult for a novice, because you have to learn a lot
before you can use UNIX effectively. OSX hides all the gory details that
FreeBSD administrators have to deal with.
OTOH, FreeBSD (and UNIX in general) is a very powerfull toolbox. OSX
hides this toolbox under a lot of eye-candy. Mastering that toolbox
takes more effort that dealing with the eye-candy, but it is well worth
the effort, IMHO.
Windows OTOH comes with an empty toolbox.
I believe it may be able to run Offide 98; can Office 98 with
Publisher be ran on FreeBSD?
Maybe it can be run under the wine emulator. See www.winehq.com.
But there is an excellent free alternative: http://www.openoffice.org/
(which incidentally runs on a lot of operating systems, including
Windows, FreeBSD and OSX)
I want to use FreeBSD to compose articles, and
combine them into a Book for publication, as a Home Office Operation by a
person with little experience beyond windows.
For you it would probably be best to stick with OSX, because it it a
good combination fo ease-of-use for a novice and powerfull tools that
you can learn at your leisure.
But beware that office suites might not be the best tool for writing a
book. MS Word ('97 and 2000) has trouble with large documents. Adding
lots of pictures will make word extremely slow and will crash it and
corrupt your file at some point.
For books and articles I can recommend the TeX typesetting software
with the LaTeX macros. I've written a 300+ page book with 100+ figures
and tables, and several 40+ pages reports with dozens of pictures,
tables and mathematical formula in LaTeX.
Comparing LaTeX to Word/Writer is like comparing UNIX to Windows. The
former has a steeper learning curve buyt is much more powerfull.
Roland
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Re: Is FreeBSD simple enough for Novices, Will FreeBSD accept Office 98 + Publisher?
Dear James I am afraid the answer is no. FreeBSD is simple enough on its technical structural but not the kind of simple as to novice user (so the right question might be if FreeBSD is novice-user friendly enough or easy to learn enough). The OS best fitting your requirement could be Ubuntu Linux or SuSE, while both can run Office 98, but you probably need to buy and install a software called CrossOffice (around 65$) before you can run Office 98. However the OpenOffice office suit which by default installed in SuSE and Ubuntu is superior than Office 98 in functionality, and can open your old Office 98 documents just fine (except, if you are in China, the Chinese compatibility is not very good for both Office 98 and OpenOffice). If you install CrossOffice, Microsoft Publisher 2000 can run on it, but better check with CrossOffice sales people first, this company designed and sells CrossOffice: http://www.codeweavers.com The interface of Ubunti Linux is very easy to learn and is not very different from Windows. I myself use OpenOffice Draw for making publications. For me it's enough, however it lack the feature of template publications which Publisher offers, so if you think templates are very important (e.g. being able to use template to create a Christmas Card in minutes without having design knowledge like match color) then maybe you still need Publisher. I myself use OpenSuSE for desktop, making publication and doing spreadsheet for business, writing documents, contracts and invoices, using email etc. (Right now I am using it). I know many friends use Ubuntu that can do these things just fine. FreeBSD is used as server system here in my office. FreeBSD also can run a lot of desktop software but all through the years I generally see much more Linux users using desktop software. Best Regards On Fri, 2007-04-27 at 22:20 -0400, james thompson wrote: How difficult is FreeBSD to use in place of MS windows, say compared to Apple OSX? I believe it may be able to run Offide 98; can Office 98 with Publisher be ran on FreeBSD? I want to use FreeBSD to compose articles, and combine them into a Book for publication, as a Home Office Operation by a person with little experience beyond windows. In 1995, I took a MicroComputer Operating Systems course in Windows 3.11 and DOS 6.22. I have used Windows 95, 98, and XP Home upgraded to Media Edition. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Is FreeBSD simple enough for Novices, Will FreeBSD accept Office 98 + Publisher?
On Sat, 2007-04-28 at 14:30 +0800, Zhang Weiwu wrote: Dear James run Office 98. However the OpenOffice office suit which by default installed in SuSE and Ubuntu is superior than Office 98 in functionality, and can open your old Office 98 documents just fine I forgot to mention: using OpenOffice is completely free of charge, this software can also be used on MacOS. It's my everyday office life. And using OpenOffice you don't need to buy CrossOffice (65$) which is used to run Microsoft Office (which again is not free) If you have questions using OpenOffice, there are a lot of OpenOffice users there on the forum that are very willing to help. See www.oooforum.org I think both Ubuntu and Mac OS are your good choice! If you are interested in and have time on learning managing powerful system like FreeBSD it's also a good choice. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: annoying problems after upgrading to 6.2-RELEASE
On Fri, 27 Apr 2007 02:38:31 -0400 quoth Kris Kennaway [EMAIL PROTECTED]: --9jxsPFA5p3P2qPhR Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Apr 26, 2007 at 11:30:20PM -0500, Scott Bennett wrote: On Thu, 26 Apr 2007 23:13:40 -0400 Kris Kennaway [EMAIL PROTECTED] g wrote: =20 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i --BOKacYhQ+x31HxR3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3Dus-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Apr 26, 2007 at 08:51:50PM -0500, Scott Bennett wrote: I've encountered three annoying problems since doing the upgrade = from 6.1-RELEASE to 6.2-RELEASE using the upgrade option when booting from = the installation CD. This is on a Dell Inspiron XPS (3.4 GHz P4 w/HTT ena= bled and 1 GB of memory). =3D20 1) The ports and packages subsystems are as fragile as ever (no big surprise). I was able to add packages for less than a day before it broke. Sometimes I can still add or delete a package, but in at least one case, I can't because pkg_add says that an earlier version of the package is already installed, while an attempt to remove the earlier version using pkg_delete gets a message saying that no such package is installed. Apparently, pkg_add and pkg_delete do not refer to the same indicators of whether a particular package is actually installed. Attempting to build por= ts fails while trying to build dependency ports, which was what led to attempt to remove libtool and then add the newer version. I'll try to get a PR together and submitted soon. It is recommended to use an upgrade tool like portupgrade instead of trying to use pkg_add/pkg_delete by hand. It is too easy to misuse =20 portinstall/portupgrade had failed to install/upgrade certain ports = or packages to satisfy the dependencies in the ports I was trying to install= or upgrade. I really did want to install or upgrade several ports, and so I= had begun attempting to install the required (or later) versions of the prerequisites as packages in order to get around the build failures. It sounds like you may not have succeeded in first bringing your system back to a sane state. Anyway, if you have problems please be more explicit here. Please note that I posted the first two items merely to inform the readership of the existence of the problems. I only hoped for assistance on the third problem. Now, given that you are among the core ports team members, perhaps you would enlighten me as to which indicators pkg_add uses and which indicators pkg_delete uses to decide whether a particular package or port is already installed. With that information in mind, I might be able to fix the problem by hand. Perhaps you could also explain the rationale behind having them both not use the same indicators, too, so that it might not simply appear to me to be a glaring design error. them and leave your system in an inconsistent state, as yours apparently has become. =20 That sounds to me like an attempt to skate past my observation that Apparently, pkg_add and pkg_delete do not refer to the same indicators of whether a particular package is actually installed. Well, they don't...please paste an appropriate transcript if you think there is a bug. BTW, it is recommended that plain, ASCII text be posted to mailing lists, so as not to send lots of garbage to people who may or may not be using MIME-oriented mail interfaces or using MIME-oriented mail interfaces whose version of MIME is incapatible with that of the sender's mail inter= face. Uh thanks. Read up on PGP signatures sometime. Well, it's true that I haven't used PGP for a few years now. However, every version of PGP that I did use was perfectly able to sign a cleartext file by placing a header line at the start of the file and a trailer line at the end of the file, followed by a PGP signature block. IIRC, the options to do that were -sat. It was never necessary to use MIME to send a signed message to a mailing list. I note that your signature block, quoted below, says it was produced by GnuPG, *not* PGP. I haven't used GnuPG and am therefore not familiar with its abilities or deficiencies. In any case, MIME is bad for mailing lists. Kris --9jxsPFA5p3P2qPhR Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFGMZpnWry0BWjoQKURAvJ3AKCgd4icbHqQDCTALWZiIhyV7i1KRwCdEvHx hprMUzPT62J6QjsEnpC4PhA= =IBUj -END PGP SIGNATURE- --9jxsPFA5p3P2qPhR-- I post only infrequently to the freebsd-* lists and usually do so in search of assistance with some problem for which I haven't yet found a solution. On occasion I have posted information to help someone else who was
Re: Is FreeBSD simple enough for Novices, Will FreeBSD accept Office 98 + Publisher?
Zhang Weiwu wrote: On Sat, 2007-04-28 at 14:30 +0800, Zhang Weiwu wrote: Dear James run Office 98. However the OpenOffice office suit which by default installed in SuSE and Ubuntu is superior than Office 98 in functionality, and can open your old Office 98 documents just fine I forgot to mention: using OpenOffice is completely free of charge, this software can also be used on MacOS. It's my everyday office life. And using OpenOffice you don't need to buy CrossOffice (65$) which is used to run Microsoft Office (which again is not free) If you have questions using OpenOffice, there are a lot of OpenOffice users there on the forum that are very willing to help. See www.oooforum.org I think both Ubuntu and Mac OS are your good choice! If you are interested in and have time on learning managing powerful system like FreeBSD it's also a good choice. A few things: Why are you stuck with Office 98? Arguably, there have been great advances from 98 to 2000, to XP, to 2003, and 2007. Don't think that using Office on OSX will be better than on Windows, because frankly given experience, it sucks. Having to have a compatibility checker to see if a given document is viewable on OSX as well as Windows, even in Mac Office 2004, is a horrible hack by Microsoft, and in my opinion the Mac Office devs should be taken out into the street and shot for this. I've had to do a lot of workarounds in documents with Windows users because of this. OpenOffice in OSX still isn't that great either because there still isn't a native (Aqua) build. It's done through some pain in the arse steps with X11 (not standard with OSX; need to install XFree86, and then optionally move up to Xorg-x11 with Fink, Darwinports, or something similar). As for running Windows binaries of Office on Wine / Crossoffice, this is tricky at best.. particularly with newer MS products (what with the validation mess MS has made). But even then with older products it's not easy in all cases (in particular with complex products like Office), because Wine does a lot of hacked up emulating in newer versions that tends to break Windows binaries. I gave up on Wine and use OpenSource producets after trying to use it because trying to make Windows binaries run on Unix typically took up 2-12 hours searching, testing, and validating that things work. And even then there are a large number of quirks in terms of how Wine does things, which breaks Windows apps.. If you really need Windows products and want FreeBSD stability, run them from a virtual machine like Qemu (runs well for most) or Xen (full support coming soon hopefully; runs better than Qemu on Linux from what I've read because of its design). All you need is a little bit of RAM, and possibly a bit more patience while stuff loads sometimes. -Garrett ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: annoying problems after upgrading to 6.2-RELEASE
Scott Bennett wrote: On Fri, 27 Apr 2007 02:38:31 -0400 quoth Kris Kennaway [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Please note that I posted the first two items merely to inform the readership of the existence of the problems. I only hoped for assistance on the third problem. Now, given that you are among the core ports team members, perhaps you would enlighten me as to which indicators pkg_add uses and which indicators pkg_delete uses to decide whether a particular package or port is already installed. With that information in mind, I might be able to fix the problem by hand. Perhaps you could also explain the rationale behind having them both not use the same indicators, too, so that it might not simply appear to me to be a glaring design error. Check into /var/db/pkg if you wish. All of the installed pkg data is kept there. I agree though with Kris. This email chain's a mess.. -Garrett ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Is FreeBSD simple enough for Novices, Will FreeBSD accept Office 98 + Publisher?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2007-04-27 22:20, james thompson wrote: How difficult is FreeBSD to use in place of MS windows, say compared to Apple OSX? I believe it may be able to run Offide 98; can Office 98 with Publisher be ran on FreeBSD? I want to use FreeBSD to compose articles, and combine them into a Book for publication, as a Home Office Operation by a person with little experience beyond windows. In 1995, I took a MicroComputer Operating Systems course in Windows 3.11 and DOS 6.22. I have used Windows 95, 98, and XP Home upgraded to Media Edition. Hi James, As far as being able to easily create articles, create a book, and publish to a website, IMHO Apple OSX's ease-of-use and seamless design takes the cake. All new Macs (including the iMac) come with a very easy to use (and powerful) set of applications called 'iLife'. Included is the 'iWeb' application, which makes the task of creating and updating an attractive web space quite simple. More information on this 'iWeb' app can be found here: http://www.apple.com/ilife/iweb/ On top of this, a 30-day trial for the 'iWork' bundle, which includes a word processor/desktop publishing app called 'Pages' and presentation software called 'Keynote' (basically PowerPoint on steroids, this is what Al Gore used to create his much-ballyhooed 'PowerPoint' presentation with). If you want to keep using it, it's only $79 (versus $200+ for the basic MS Office Suite for Windows). Pretty good value for software that fuses simplicity and power. It can also import all of your old MS Word documents without too much fuss. Here's some info on that: http://www.apple.com/iwork/pages/ I really don't mean to sound like I work for Apple, but since everyone has given the opensource/FreeBSD side of your questions a fairly good beating, I thought I'd present the other end of your email a fair treatment. All of this can be done very well on FreeBSD (or Linux, or Windows) just the same, but as far as what you're asking, OSX truly does make the whole job a heck of a lot easier, without sacrificing much functionality. I hope this information helps! - - Chris - -- Chris Slothouber ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) -=- Mercenary Sysadmin BIZ: http://www.hier7.com -=- building.better.ideas PGP: 7A83 F021 5AC3 4BD7 6738 21D8 B348 0B16 79C0 C27F -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFGMwJks0gLFnnAwn8RAr2AAJ45Eh92jVzp4hDnZj9+82FoIaJlTACeMT7O zCmBRFqiOuFBbpFHGXz8aOo= =lyJs -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Is FreeBSD simple enough for Novices, Will FreeBSD accept Office 98 + Publisher?
On Fri, 2007-04-27 at 23:58 -0700, Garrett Cooper wrote: As for running Windows binaries of Office on Wine / Crossoffice, this is tricky at best.. particularly with newer MS products (what with the Did you really try to run Windows applications on Crossoffice that crossoffice claimed to be supported? Frankly it's so much easier on wine. If something doesn't work on wine, after some search I probably can fix it; if something doesn't work on crossoffice I simply don't try spend one more minute searching for a solution, because generally that means there is no solution. Install some software on crossoffice is breezy: you follow a wizard and later it's working. That's only from my limited experience because I really didn't try a lot of windows software but I had this feeling. That's why when the original poster ask the question I even didn't mention the word wine, I did this intentionally so that I can save him time searching for solutions to fix wine or get disappointed by it. To techies like us we have 3 solutions: 1) use OOS replacement; 2) dig into wine and google around for a solution and 3) try buy crossoffice, for NOVINCE user there are only two choices: 1) use OOS replacement; 2) buy crossoffice if the software is supported. I simply give user-aspect opinion from me. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Unable to login using KDE
I am debugging a (seemingly) KDE-related problem on a FreeBSD laptop. The version of FreeBSD is 6.1-RELEASE-p10 #0. I am starting in in debug mode. It is using kdm as a login screen. The corresponding line in /etc/ttys is ttyv8 /usr/local/bin/kdm -nodaemon xterm on secure The problem is: when I type the username and password and try to login it returns me to the login screen again. What are the contents of your ~/.xsession? Check ~/.xsession-errors as well. Do you use alpha-numeric symbols only in your password? The keyboard layout in kde might be different, so the same keys can generate different input. Try something simple and see if it works. Andriy ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Help, please ....Port Install Problem, Google didn't help!
Hello I am trying to run a perl script connecting a mysql50 database on a freebsd61 box. But I get this error: Can't locate Mysql.pm in @INC (@INC contains: /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.8/BSDPAN /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.8/mach /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.8 /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.8/mach /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.8 .) at.. But when I want to install perl database driver, I get this error: localhost# make install clean === p5-DBD-mysql50-4. depends on file: /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.8/mach/DBI.pm - found === p5-DBD-mysql50-4. depends on file: /usr/local/bin/perl5.8.8 - found === p5-DBD-mysql50-4. depends on shared library: mysqlclient.15 - not found ===Verifying install for mysqlclient.15 in /usr/ports/databases/mysql50-client === Installing for mysql-client-5.0.27 === Generating temporary packing list === Checking if databases/mysql50-client already installed === mysql-client-5.0.27 is already installed You may wish to ``make deinstall'' and install this port again by ``make reinstall'' to upgrade it properly. If you really wish to overwrite the old port of databases/mysql50-client without deleting it first, set the variable FORCE_PKG_REGISTER in your environment or the make install command line. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/databases/mysql50-client. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/databases/p5-DBD-mysql50. localhost# Please help and advise, what should I do? I have tried to google allready but could not find any solution -- Thanks! BR / vj ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Wikipedia's perfection (was Re: Discussion of the relativeadvantages/disadvantages of PAE (was Re: Memory 3.5GB not used?))
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 27, 2007 3:11 PM To: Bart Silverstrim Cc: Paul Schmehl; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Wikipedia's perfection (was Re: Discussion of the relativeadvantages/disadvantages of PAE (was Re: Memory 3.5GB not used?)) On 27/04/07, Bart Silverstrim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We don't devote time and resources into being renaissance people. Human intelligence is hardly limited in that regard. While I do not subscribe to the Colin Wilson theory, the vast majority of people contain so little information it is quite shameful, and the less you learn the harder it is to learn. These arguments about ethics show how truly shallow ethicists bother to think. Wikipedia is a daycare centre which has given out a nearly unlimited number of crayons and is now complaining about children drawing on the walls. It is also a fairly plain example of the cliche of the inmates running the asylum. To assign scholarly status and impute scholarly ethics on such a nonsensical rubbish pile is as silly as taking my arguments here as more than the ranting of a deranged keyboard jockey. What that purported professor did is no more unethical than crapping in somone else's toilet, and to claim other- wise is to elevate it to a king's throne. Once wikipedia (and its ilk) begin to systematically vet contributors for expertise and seriously review articles against fact we can nail them to the wall for political bias. Wikipedia won't, mainly because there's another competing web encyclopedia out there that is taking this approach. However, you sound like you have a case of sour grapes, and you definitely don't sound like you have read much on Wikipedia. The true value of Wikipedia is that it can deal with controversial subjects. Take abortion, for example. Reading about it in a peer reviewed encyclopedia, if you didn't know dick about it, you would wonder what all the controversy was about - because those entries are completely stripped out of all loaded phrases and emotion. The same goes with the 2000 US Presidential election. A huge number of people, possibly the majority in the country, believe that there were dirty tricks and that the election was stolen. But, you won't get any sense of that at all reading about it in the Encyclopedia Britannica. I couldn't read the online entries about either of those topics in a peer-reviewed encyclopedia and even end up knowing where to go to find each sides wacko-rediculous statements, and without reading any of that stuff there's no way anyone can understand how unsolvable that issues like that are. Wikipedia is one of the best starting platforms out there on subjects. Naturally, you don't take it as canonical. But, it is going to suggest avenues of research that the official stuff won't. For example, look up operation freakout and operation snow white in Wikipedia, and look them up in an official encyclopedia. Quite an amazing difference, there. Ted ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Is FreeBSD simple enough for Novices, Will FreeBSD accept Office 98 + Publisher?
OpenOffice in OSX still isn't that great either because there still isn't a native (Aqua) build. I suspect the NeoOffice folks would be surprised to hear that :) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: No SMB/Samba support on Windows Home Editions
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Derek Ragona Sent: Friday, April 27, 2007 2:50 PM To: L Goodwin; FreeBSD-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: No SMB/Samba support on Windows Home Editions At 03:49 PM 4/27/2007, L Goodwin wrote: I've been working feverishly to set up a Samba share on FreeBSD 6.2 server to provide file storage for clients running Windows XP Pro and Windows Vista Home Premium. I just had a long talk with the ISP's tech support, and was told a number of things that I would like to confirm or deny: 1) Windows Home editions (including XP and Vista) have support for SMB protocol disabled in Active Directory Domain Connections functionality! Is this true? Not exactly. Home edition CANNOT log into a domain or active directory. If you need that functionality, upgrade to XP Pro. 2) The only way to make Samba work for Windows Home editions is to change the Samba server's domain configuration to peer-to-peer. Is this true? If YES, how do I do that? Could not find reference it in the Official Samba-3 HOW TO and Reference Guide. I've never done that so am no help. There is a hack for HP home that makes it join a domain. You can google for this. It is a violation of the license agreement, of course. Not recommended for a business to do this. The only realistic option here is to run share-level security under a workgroup style network. The downside is that there is no centralized password management. But, in a smaller network that really doesen't matter. 3) Other options discussed: 1) Replace Vista Home with Windows XP Pro (or Vista Pro) or exchange computer for one with a Pro edition. Vista licenses can be downgraded to XP. You need to check on which versions can be downgraded to XP Pro. Only the Vista Business versions have downgrade rights to XP Pro. The Vista Home versions can only downgrade to XP Home. Additionally, there are no downgrade rights with OEM licenses. No one I know is jumping to vista until service pack one ships. One of the Intel VPs during an interview accidentally let it slip out that Microsoft has scheduled SP1 for Vista for 4th quarter 2007. Ted ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Response Fwd: failure notice
On every message, sent to the list, I receive a strange response with the subject line: Fwd: failure notice. The body contains: === BODY BEGIN Hi. This is the deliver program at eyou.com.br I'm afraid I wasn't able to deliver your message to the following addresses.br This is a permanent error; I've given up. Sorry it didn't work out.brbr [EMAIL PROTECTED]br 550 MI:SPF mx18,wKjR47Dr_AisCDNGl+65Ow==.9315S2 1177749676 http://mail.163.com/help/help_spam_16.htm br --- Attachment is a copy of the message.brbr snip ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] === BODY END Sure, I know nothing about eyou.com and [EMAIL PROTECTED] My message appears on the list, so it is delivered. What does this response mean? Could anyone explain me why I get this response? Thank you in advance. Andriy ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Greylisting -- Was: Anti Spam
-Original Message- From: Bart Silverstrim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 27, 2007 1:58 PM To: Ted Mittelstaedt Cc: Christopher Hilton; Grant Peel; Eric Crist; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Greylisting -- Was: Anti Spam On Apr 26, 2007, at 12:15 AM, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: There are legitimate technical reasons that someone may want their mail to not be greylisted. For example, my cell phone's e-mail address is in our monitoring scripts to page me in the event of a server failure. I would be pretty pissed off if Sprint suddenly started greylisting. It isn't just dumb-ass users making stupid political decisions to reject it, although in your case it probably was. If it is a legitimate mail server, it would be promoted to the auto- whitelist. Not all mail is constantly greylisted by most intelligent greylist systems. Only the first few messages would be delayed, until it is established as legitimate. That won't work in my case since I generally only have a failure that causes a problem which results in paging about once every 3 months or so. By the time the pages got through the greylist it would be at least an hour later after the system had gone down. That isn't acceptable for a notification system. Ted ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Greylisting -- Was: Anti Spam
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Christopher Hilton Sent: Friday, April 27, 2007 2:45 PM To: Ted Mittelstaedt Cc: User Questions Subject: Re: Greylisting -- Was: Anti Spam Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: [snip] When I scan my maillogs I find that 22% of the hosts that generate a greylisting entry retry the mail delivery and thus get whitelisted. The other 78% don't attempt redelivery within the greylisting window. That's probably par. However, the reason your putting so much faith in the delaying, is simply that you aren't getting a lot of spam. I have published e-mail addresses. Without greylisting I got about 1500-2000 mail messages a day to each of them. Greylisting isn't just about delaying. IIRC greylisting is filtering for spam/ham based on behaviour in the message originators MTA. My greylister is using two behavioural assumptions: Spamming MTA's don't have the capability to queue and retry mail. Asking them to queue and retry will cause them to drop the mail on the floor thus filtering spam. Spamming MTA's don't like to be tarpitted. Stuttering at them and sizing the TCP Windows so they must wait will result in them disconnecting before they can exchanged mail thus filtering spam. Both of those are assumptions your making that are just not true anymore. Spammers are adapting to greylisting. I've been running it for at least 2 years now and every month more and more spam is making it past the greylist and getting caught by spamassassin. As I mentioned previously, it does not take a lot of programming effort to do it. When I first setup greylisting the results were literally spectacular. Nowadays they are great, but not much beyond that. All of the things your saying about greylisting decreasing the load and all that are true, and just because it's not as effective as it once was doesen't mean you should not use it. But, I am not blind to what my eyes are telling me. In aonther 5 years, greylisting will be like all other spamfilter techniques, effective only against a minority of spam Ted ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Greylisting -- Was: Anti Spam
On 28/04/2007, at 7:25 PM, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: -Original Message- From: Bart Silverstrim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 27, 2007 1:58 PM To: Ted Mittelstaedt Cc: Christopher Hilton; Grant Peel; Eric Crist; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Greylisting -- Was: Anti Spam On Apr 26, 2007, at 12:15 AM, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: There are legitimate technical reasons that someone may want their mail to not be greylisted. For example, my cell phone's e-mail address is in our monitoring scripts to page me in the event of a server failure. I would be pretty pissed off if Sprint suddenly started greylisting. It isn't just dumb-ass users making stupid political decisions to reject it, although in your case it probably was. If it is a legitimate mail server, it would be promoted to the auto- whitelist. Not all mail is constantly greylisted by most intelligent greylist systems. Only the first few messages would be delayed, until it is established as legitimate. That won't work in my case since I generally only have a failure that causes a problem which results in paging about once every 3 months or so. By the time the pages got through the greylist it would be at least an hour later after the system had gone down. That isn't acceptable for a notification system. Email is not an instant messaging system, no matter how much you want it to be one. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Unable to login using KDE
Andriy Babiy wrote: I am debugging a (seemingly) KDE-related problem on a FreeBSD laptop. The version of FreeBSD is 6.1-RELEASE-p10 #0. I am starting in in debug mode. It is using kdm as a login screen. The corresponding line in /etc/ttys is ttyv8 /usr/local/bin/kdm -nodaemon xterm on secure The problem is: when I type the username and password and try to login it returns me to the login screen again. What are the contents of your ~/.xsession? Check ~/.xsession-errors as well. Do you use alpha-numeric symbols only in your password? The keyboard layout in kde might be different, so the same keys can generate different input. Try something simple and see if it works. Andriy ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'm using kdm ok with the line in /etc/ttys ttyv8 /usr/local/bin/kdm xterm on secure Ivan ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Help, please ....Port Install Problem, Google didn't help!
after 'make' type 'make deinstall make install' Hello I am trying to run a perl script connecting a mysql50 database on a freebsd61 box. But I get this error: Can't locate Mysql.pm in @INC (@INC contains: /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.8/BSDPAN /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.8/mach /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.8 /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.8/mach /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.8 .) at.. But when I want to install perl database driver, I get this error: localhost# make install clean === p5-DBD-mysql50-4. depends on file: /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.8/mach/DBI.pm - found === p5-DBD-mysql50-4. depends on file: /usr/local/bin/perl5.8.8 - found === p5-DBD-mysql50-4. depends on shared library: mysqlclient.15 - not found ===Verifying install for mysqlclient.15 in /usr/ports/databases/mysql50-client === Installing for mysql-client-5.0.27 === Generating temporary packing list === Checking if databases/mysql50-client already installed === mysql-client-5.0.27 is already installed You may wish to ``make deinstall'' and install this port again by ``make reinstall'' to upgrade it properly. If you really wish to overwrite the old port of databases/mysql50-client without deleting it first, set the variable FORCE_PKG_REGISTER in your environment or the make install command line. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/databases/mysql50-client. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/databases/p5-DBD-mysql50. localhost# Please help and advise, what should I do? I have tried to google allready but could not find any solution -- Ñ óâàæåíèåì, Reshmakov mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Help, please ....Port Install Problem, Google didn't help!
Reshmakov Roman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: after 'make' type 'make deinstall make install' I've found that a make clean frequently cleans up this problem as well, which basically seems to be the result of the port system somehow losing track of the fact that a particular dependency is already installed. Hello I am trying to run a perl script connecting a mysql50 database on a freebsd61 box. But I get this error: Can't locate Mysql.pm in @INC (@INC contains: /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.8/BSDPAN /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.8/mach /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.8 /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.8/mach /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.8 .) at.. But when I want to install perl database driver, I get this error: localhost# make install clean === p5-DBD-mysql50-4. depends on file: /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.8/mach/DBI.pm - found === p5-DBD-mysql50-4. depends on file: /usr/local/bin/perl5.8.8 - found === p5-DBD-mysql50-4. depends on shared library: mysqlclient.15 - not found ===Verifying install for mysqlclient.15 in /usr/ports/databases/mysql50-client === Installing for mysql-client-5.0.27 === Generating temporary packing list === Checking if databases/mysql50-client already installed === mysql-client-5.0.27 is already installed You may wish to ``make deinstall'' and install this port again by ``make reinstall'' to upgrade it properly. If you really wish to overwrite the old port of databases/mysql50-client without deleting it first, set the variable FORCE_PKG_REGISTER in your environment or the make install command line. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/databases/mysql50-client. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/databases/p5-DBD-mysql50. localhost# Please help and advise, what should I do? I have tried to google allready but could not find any solution -- Ñ óâàæåíèåì, Reshmakov mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Bill Moran http://www.potentialtech.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re[2]: Help, please ....Port Install Problem, Google didn't help!
Reshmakov Roman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: after 'make' type 'make deinstall make install' key phrase: mysql-client-5.0.27 is already installed, so you need remove old package and install new :) make clean does not solve this problem cause you clean build tree, not package. I've found that a make clean frequently cleans up this problem as well, which basically seems to be the result of the port system somehow losing track of the fact that a particular dependency is already installed. Hello I am trying to run a perl script connecting a mysql50 database on a freebsd61 box. But I get this error: Can't locate Mysql.pm in @INC (@INC contains: /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.8/BSDPAN /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.8/mach /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.8 /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.8/mach /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.8 .) at.. But when I want to install perl database driver, I get this error: localhost# make install clean === p5-DBD-mysql50-4. depends on file: /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.8/mach/DBI.pm - found === p5-DBD-mysql50-4. depends on file: /usr/local/bin/perl5.8.8 - found === p5-DBD-mysql50-4. depends on shared library: mysqlclient.15 - not found ===Verifying install for mysqlclient.15 in /usr/ports/databases/mysql50-client === Installing for mysql-client-5.0.27 === Generating temporary packing list === Checking if databases/mysql50-client already installed === mysql-client-5.0.27 is already installed You may wish to ``make deinstall'' and install this port again by ``make reinstall'' to upgrade it properly. If you really wish to overwrite the old port of databases/mysql50-client without deleting it first, set the variable FORCE_PKG_REGISTER in your environment or the make install command line. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/databases/mysql50-client. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/databases/p5-DBD-mysql50. localhost# Please help and advise, what should I do? I have tried to google allready but could not find any solution -- Ñ óâàæåíèåì, Reshmakov mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Ñ óâàæåíèåì, Reshmakov mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: syslog(3) as user sets errno
On Saturday 28 April 2007 14:16:34 Stefan Ehmann wrote: If a non-privilged program calls syslog(3), after the call, errno is set to 13 (permission denied). Seems like I jumped the gun. opengroup.org says The value of errno should only be examined when it is indicated to be valid by a function's return value. So it seems perfectly valid that errno is set. Sorry for the noise. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
syslog(3) as user sets errno
If a non-privilged program calls syslog(3), after the call, errno is set to 13 (permission denied). In lib/libc/gen/syslog.c connectlog(), it is first tried to connect to /var/run/logpriv. If it fails /var/run/log is tried. The first connect fails if syslog() is not called as root, it fails with errno=13 and the second connect succeeds. This is all fine, except that errno is set to 13 after calling syslog(). Is this a bug or expected behaviour? IMHO errno should be set to 0 before the second connect is called -- or is this a bad idea? Stefan ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hardware requirement
Hello, Would U Plz. tell me about MAX amount of RAM freeBSD supports per processor in SMP systems? Does a dualcore system be considered as SMP system? Say an AMD X2 or Core2Duo? Thanks Mukul Chaudhuri - SHOUT IT OUT! Tell everyone, from anywhere, that you're online on Yahoo! Messenger ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Thunderbird 2.0 dumps core on second file open op (workaround)
Garrett Cooper wrote:
Howard Goldstein wrote:
Jan Henrik Sylvester wrote:
Michel Le Cocq wrote:
I think it's a global thunderbird 2 bug, because i have exactly the
same trouble ona mac os 10.4 with a binary update.
I do not think it is exactly the same -- see below.
Howard Goldstein a écrit :
Jan Henrik Sylvester wrote:
Drew Sanford wrote:
No, but I am seeing it core dump rather strangely. Each time it
starts
up, I can open a file dialog box to save an attachment or attach a
file one time just fine. The second time I try to attach or save a
file on any start up, it crashes.
BTW: Firefox 2.0.X does the same. Use Save Link As... a few
times in a row (2 is usually sufficient) and have a core dump.
I had this happen with Firefox 2.0.X and Thunderbird 2.0.0 that I
compiled myself as well as with this one (on 6.2-RELEASE):
ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-6-stable/www/firefox-2.0.0.3,1.tbz
I guess someone should file a bug report...
Looks like the same problem at ports/105589, perhaps it needs to be
reopened, seems to be the same problem. Haven't tried the
workaround. Not sure how to do that on someone else's gnats. (cc
to the gnats person who closed it)
After reading the discussion in the PR, I renamed libgnome-2.so.0 and
tried again: no crashes with Firefox 2.0.3 or Thunderbird 2.0.0. I do
run KDE -- I probably should compile Firefox and Thunderbird without
the gnome dependencies to solve it for me.
I wish I'd googled for KDE along with this as the problem was
apparently fixed once for KDE, although for some reason came back
again now for some of us. Here's a link to the very same bug along
with a fix that was targeted only for KDE
http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-gnome/2006-December/016299.html
Based on your find Jan it's fairly simple to workaround this in the
2.0.0.0 Makefile by disabling gnomeui and gnomevfs linkages. Here's
my diff which also includes tiny cruft disabling ldap during the build
since I can't build an LDAPable thunderbird2 on my system.
(before the diff, following up, reverting CFLAGS to -O -pipe and the
default CPUTYPE didn't help, neither did installing gnome2)
*** mail/thunderbird/Makefile.origFri Apr 27 18:00:27 2007
--- mail/thunderbird/MakefileFri Apr 27 19:15:58 2007
***
*** 17,23
COMMENT=Mozilla Thunderbird is standalone mail and news that
stands above
CONFLICTS=lightning-0.[0-9]*
! WANT_GNOME=yes
ALL_TARGET=default
CONFIGURE_ENV=LOCALBASE=${LOCALBASE}
HAS_CONFIGURE=yes
--- 17,25
COMMENT=Mozilla Thunderbird is standalone mail and news that
stands above
CONFLICTS=lightning-0.[0-9]*
! #hgWANT_GNOME=yes
! WANT_GNOME=no
! #hg
ALL_TARGET=default
CONFIGURE_ENV=LOCALBASE=${LOCALBASE}
HAS_CONFIGURE=yes
***
*** 31,36
--- 33,41
MOZ_GRAPHICS=default,-xbm
MOZ_OPTIONS=--enable-single-profile --disable-profilesharing\
--enable-application=mail --enable-official-branding
+ #hg
+ MOZ_OPTIONS+=--disable-ldap --disable-gnomeui --disable-gnomevfs
+ #hg
MOZ_MK_OPTIONS=MOZ_MOZ_THUNDERBIRD=1
MOZ_EXPORT=MOZ_THUNDERBIRD=1
Based on someone's comments about OSX though, there might be an issue
with the underlying base system or kernel in FreeBSD 6.2 that
Thunderbird 2 unearths, dealing with filesystem handling, threading,
linking, or something along those lines (I know, that really doesn't
narrow down the list). It should be a core component though because
Thunderbird under OSX doesn't have any GTK or X11 support compiled in
and is natively run under Aqua.
I'll look for the core dump sent previously, but if more people can
contribute their core dumps this would help isolate the issue. The
bigger (and compressed) the better, as long as you don't have sensitive
data hanging around in the background. This might just help capture the
problem at hand.
Hardware specs and CPUTYPE, as well as whether or not you're running a
custom or generic kernel with what options would help as well. Please
link off site if you can.
After that maybe we should all band together and submit a bug report.
Now let me see if I can reproduce it on my iBook :).
Yes I think we need to continue on fixing this since my rotten stinking
workaround doesn't workaround for long anyway. Thunderbird survived a
few additional attachments than before, but still dumped a core this
morning after idling all night when I attempted to attach the files
indicated below to this very email :(
Here are some additional details:
- sys is an Asus P4P800, two SATA drives in RAID1 config using the
onboard ICH5 controller, a crappy IDE winchester and a crappy IDE CDROM,
floppy
- dmesg (non debug, sorry) and x.org log attached
Let me know if I can send along anything else. Bizarre, isn't it?
Re: Hardware requirement
On Sat, Apr 28, 2007 at 12:56:04PM +0100, mukul choudhuri wrote: Would U Plz. tell me about MAX amount of RAM freeBSD supports per processor in SMP systems? Depends on the architecture. A 32 bit x86 chip can address 4GB, unless you have the PAE extension in the kernel. In that case it is 64 GB. Beware that some drivers are not compatible with PAE. The amd64 architecture has been tested with 8 GB. For other architectures, see the release notes: http://www.nl.freebsd.org/releases/6.2R/hardware.html Does a dualcore system be considered as SMP system? Say an AMD X2 or Core2Duo? Yes, AFAIK. Roland -- R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) pgpsG87t24VXy.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re[2]: Hardware requirement
We sucessfuly use amd64 arch on Intel Xeon CPUs. On Sat, Apr 28, 2007 at 12:56:04PM +0100, mukul choudhuri wrote: Would U Plz. tell me about MAX amount of RAM freeBSD supports per processor in SMP systems? Depends on the architecture. A 32 bit x86 chip can address 4GB, unless you have the PAE extension in the kernel. In that case it is 64 GB. Beware that some drivers are not compatible with PAE. The amd64 architecture has been tested with 8 GB. For other architectures, see the release notes: http://www.nl.freebsd.org/releases/6.2R/hardware.html Does a dualcore system be considered as SMP system? Say an AMD X2 or Core2Duo? Yes, AFAIK. Roland -- С уважением, Reshmakov mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: set env in chroot script
Elan Marikit [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I am a newbie of FreeBSD and I want to know how to set environment inside chroot in a shell script. My script looks like this: chroot $NEWROOT /bin/sh -c command And I want to set an environment, before the command. Is it possible that it will inherit my parent environment? like the environment set in my script? According to the chroot(8) manual, only the SHELL value will be inherited. Try making a wrapper script to set the values you want, and call the command from inside that script. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Wikipedia's perfection (was Re: Discussion of the relativeadvantages/disadvantages of PAE (was Re: Memory 3.5GB not used?))
On Sat, Apr 28, 2007 at 02:10:16AM -0700, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: The true value of Wikipedia is that it can deal with controversial subjects. ... on the other hand, for some instances it doesn't _deal_ with controversial subjects, but only reflects the most common opinion. Currently(*) the only way to see what's going on is to examine the history of changes to a given page, taking into account that since the updaters are anonymous there's no guarantee that one can relate their opinions to facts. (*) is there a guarantee that the change history will remain? If not, at that point one may as well delete wikipedia. -- Thomas E. Dickey http://invisible-island.net ftp://invisible-island.net pgpJqza17EWwO.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: CVS server setup
Eduardo Morras [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'm trying to setup a cvs server. I have a vps jail account so i can't make a jail in the jail to run the cvs server. Has cvs server a /chroot/ mode? Where can i find documentation to do so? All doc, man and howto i readed shows how to do creating a jail. Is there other way to do so? You should be able to use chroot(8) on it directly, as far as I can tell. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Is FreeBSD simple enough for Novices, Will FreeBSD accept Office 98 + Publisher?
On 4/28/07, james thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How difficult is FreeBSD to use in place of MS windows, say compared to Apple OSX? I believe it may be able to run Offide 98; can Office 98 with Publisher be ran on FreeBSD? I want to use FreeBSD to compose articles, and combine them into a Book for publication, as a Home Office Operation by a person with little experience beyond windows. In 1995, I took a MicroComputer Operating Systems course in Windows 3.11 and DOS 6.22. I have used Windows 95, 98, and XP Home upgraded to Media Edition. Hello, It's very easy, I suggest for new bsd users to go for PC-BSD http://www.pcbsd.org/ since it's one setup CD with complete desktop interface. -- Regards, -Abdullah Ibn Hamad Al-Marri Arab Portal http://www.WeArab.Net/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Response Fwd: failure notice
On Apr 28, 2007, at 4:20 AM, Andriy Babiy wrote: On every message, sent to the list, I receive a strange response with the subject line: Fwd: failure notice. This is because (at least) one member of the list, [EMAIL PROTECTED], has an address behind a broken MTA. If the email system for that delivery worked, then the bounce message would go to [EMAIL PROTECTED] instead of to the person who posted the message. People behind mail systems like those should never, ever be allowed near Internet email discussion groups. I haven't seen a mail system that broken for a long time. Typically it is because the mail goes through some kind of gateway that fails to preserve the envelope from address. It would be nice if the list manager for this list could trace down which subscribed address is causing the problem (not always an easy thing to do) and ban them from the list. A more common problem is the list subscriber who has a badly configured auto responder set up. I have a rant about those at http://www.goldmark.org/netrants/auto-resp/ Cheers, -- Jeffrey Goldberghttp://www.goldmark.org/jeff/
Re: Azureus Build Error
Warren Liddell wrote: Running FreeBSD 6.2-STABLE .. Azureus as always fials with the following (any ideas/suggestions welcomed) --- === Building for azureus-3.0.1.0 Buildfile: build.xml init: [mkdir] Created dir: /usr/ports/net-p2p/azureus/work/build compile: [javac] Compiling 2510 source files to /usr/ports/net-p2p/azureus/work/build [javac] /usr/ports/net-p2p/azureus/work/org/gudy/azureus2/pluginsimpl/local/utils/resourcedownloader/ResourceDownloaderFactoryImpl.java:66: cannot resolve symbol [javac] symbol : method toURI () [javac] location: class java.net.URL [javac] return( new ResourceDownloaderFileImpl( null, new File( url.toURI(; [javac] ^ [javac] Note: Some input files use or override a deprecated API. [javac] Note: Recompile with -deprecation for details. [javac] 1 error BUILD FAILED /usr/ports/net-p2p/azureus/work/build.xml:22: Compile failed; see the compiler error output for details. Total time: 1 minute 7 seconds *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/net-p2p/azureus. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] What version of Java do you have installed? The method that cannot be found toURI() was added in Java 1.5. If you are still using 1.4 or earlier, then you will need to upgrade your JRE or JDK first. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
fbsd 6.2 new boot time messages
Just installed 6.2 from cd and now see many Instructions: not found messages. What are these messages referring to??? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Need your help
Hello freebsd-questions, From: Maksym Kuvyklin[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: I have suspicion that somebody use my server like zombie server. Environment:FreeBSD mail.ukremb.com 5.5-RELEASE FreeBSD 5.5-RELEASE #6:MonApr 23 14:41:21 EDT 2007 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/MYKERNEL i386 Description: Sorry for my pure English. I am new in this community. I had detected that somebody tryed to penetrate via ssh into my server. When I had changed the port all this attempts were finished. Then server notified me about that somebody use my IP address and after that my network adapter had down. I had changed it to another one and the server had started work again. I have static IP address. But, now my connection is very slow. I have looked throught the logs and I had not found any tracks of penetration. Please, help me to solve this problem. -- Best regards, maximo4k mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: DHCP client configuration on FreeBSD
--- Beech Rintoul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Friday 27 April 2007, L Goodwin said: When I ran the DHCP client configuration tool on FreeBSD 6.2, it added a new hostname variable to /etc/rc.conf below existing the hostname var (it did not remove or comment-out the old hostname variable). The NEW hostname includes the ISP's domain name: hostname=dhcppc0.ISP domain name here This hostname differs from the hostname listed in the router's DHCP table dhcpp0 (no domain name). It also shows unique IP addresses and MAC addresses for all hosts on the LAN. I can ping the IP address assigned to the FreeBSD system, but ping and net lookup fail when its hostname is specified (both with and without the domain name). Questions: 1) Why did the hostname get changed (does not occur for Windows clients)? 2) Why does the hostname in /etc/rc.conf contain the DNS domain name? FreeBSD uses the FQDN (fully qualified domain name) as the hostname. Example: hostname= yourmachine.yourdomain.com 3) How do I resolve this problem? Unless you provide your own DNS that resolves your internal network and supersede dhclient with your domain name, DHCP will use the domain and DNS from your provider. Your windows boxes point to your isp's nameservers which have no records of your server or it's address. Therefore it can't resolve your machine's hostname. If you do provide your own internal name service you will also need to edit /etc/dhclient.config (see man dhclient.conf), and point your windows boxes to your DNS instead of your isp's. You can use a fictitious domain name internally, just make sure that the domain doesn't actually exist on the net. You can also use the FreeBSD IP address as a domain name on your windows boxes to connect. Is there a way to a) make dhclient use hostname without a domain name appended, or b) make dhclient instruct the DHCP server to append the domain name to the hostname? Running bind requires a fairly steep learning curve, but there are simple nameservers in the ports tree that would probably better suit your needs. Are you referring to the built-in command in bsh that lists/alters key bindings for the line editor? I don't understand what bind has to do with any of this. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Quotacheck failing
I'm having a problem with quotacheck failing and giving this message: quotacheck: /home/quota.user: seek failed: Invalid argument THE FOLLOWING FILE SYSTEM HAD AN UNEXPECTED INCONSISTENCY: /dev/twed0s1d (/home) However, I have run a full fsck from single user mode on this volume and it comes up clean every time. I've removed the quota.user and had it re-generated, but that didn't help either. Anyone know how/why this is happening, and what do try to do to fix it? Is there possible some corrupt file somewhere on the volume that quotacheck doesn't like, but is technically fine according to fsck? I haven't heard from any one with any ideas, so I'm reposting. Beyond moving the data off the array, reformatting it and moving it back (which I did originally) how can I fix this problem? Thanks for any suggestions! ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: misc/112207: I have suspicion that somebudy use my server like zombie server.
On Sat, Apr 28, 2007 at 02:07:32PM +, Maksym Kuvyklin wrote: Synopsis: I have suspicion that somebudy use my server like zombie server. Arrival-Date: Sat Apr 28 14:20:04 GMT 2007 Originator: Maksym Kuvyklin Release:FreeBSD 5.5 STABLE Environment: FreeBSD mail.ukremb.com 5.5-RELEASE FreeBSD 5.5-RELEASE #6: Mon Apr 23 14:41:21 EDT 2007 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/MYKERNEL i386 Description: Sorry for my pure English. I am new in this community. I had detected that somebody tryed to penetrate via ssh into my server. When I had changed the port all this attempts were finished. Then server notified me about that somebody use my IP address and after that my network adapter had down. I had changed it to another one and the server had started work again. I have static IP address.But, now my connection is very slow. I have looked throught the logs and I had not found any tracks of penetration. Please, help me to solve this problem. I took the liberty to make a response and redirect this to the questions list. I hope that is OK. I am not a network security expert, so if someone tells you better, then, go with their information. But,,, Someone is always trying to penetrate ssh on systems. They go around and scan every machine they can find with a common list of ids. You can put in place some blocking software of firewalls to prevent those scans from getting to your machine, but it might not be all that meaningful. As for a warning that some other machine is using your IP address, this can be possible if some other machine is badly configured. It can be a lot of work to track down that machine, but that is the only way to fix it. It is possible that another machine may be using your IP address to try and steal information or use your address to either spam or attack others. Or, it may be just someone who is either incompetent or lazy with setting up their system. It is hard to tell without more examination. Definitely something like that can cause your network traffic to be very slow. If you are lucky, that machine using your IP will be physically near you and can be tracked down. Maybe some other people can help with hints on how to do it. Anyway, it may, but does not necessarily indicate that your machine has been broken in to. If you can find not other signs, then maybe you are lucky and all the problem is external to your machine. But you do need to track that bad machine using your IP and shut it down. Good luck, jerry ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: DHCP client configuration on FreeBSD
On Saturday 28 April 2007, L Goodwin said: --- Beech Rintoul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Friday 27 April 2007, L Goodwin said: When I ran the DHCP client configuration tool on FreeBSD 6.2, it added a new hostname variable to /etc/rc.conf below existing the hostname var (it did not remove or comment-out the old hostname variable). The NEW hostname includes the ISP's domain name: hostname=dhcppc0.ISP domain name here This hostname differs from the hostname listed in the router's DHCP table dhcpp0 (no domain name). It also shows unique IP addresses and MAC addresses for all hosts on the LAN. I can ping the IP address assigned to the FreeBSD system, but ping and net lookup fail when its hostname is specified (both with and without the domain name). Questions: 1) Why did the hostname get changed (does not occur for Windows clients)? 2) Why does the hostname in /etc/rc.conf contain the DNS domain name? FreeBSD uses the FQDN (fully qualified domain name) as the hostname. Example: hostname= yourmachine.yourdomain.com 3) How do I resolve this problem? Unless you provide your own DNS that resolves your internal network and supersede dhclient with your domain name, DHCP will use the domain and DNS from your provider. Your windows boxes point to your isp's nameservers which have no records of your server or it's address. Therefore it can't resolve your machine's hostname. If you do provide your own internal name service you will also need to edit /etc/dhclient.config (see man dhclient.conf), and point your windows boxes to your DNS instead of your isp's. You can use a fictitious domain name internally, just make sure that the domain doesn't actually exist on the net. You can also use the FreeBSD IP address as a domain name on your windows boxes to connect. Is there a way to a) make dhclient use hostname without a domain name appended, or b) make dhclient instruct the DHCP server to append the domain name to the hostname? You're confusing windows networking with real networking. If all you're trying to do is share files with the windows boxes, just put the machine name as hostname and don't worry what gets appended to it. Samba will handle the windows part of it (machine name and workgroup). Windows uses a different system to identify machines on it's network. Don't confuse a windows domain with a real domain they are different things. On a windows network you use samba to make the windows boxes think that the FreeBSD box is one of theirs and share files and printers. You can find detailed how-to's on samba's site. There is no need to ping by hostname unless you're running a server on the FreeBSD box in which case you need to setup real DNS or just use the FreeBSD IP as the hostname from windows. Running bind requires a fairly steep learning curve, but there are simple nameservers in the ports tree that would probably better suit your needs. Are you referring to the built-in command in bsh that lists/alters key bindings for the line editor? I don't understand what bind has to do with any of this. I'm not talking about binding keys, what I was talking about is bind. That's a dns server already in the base system. If you want to freely resolve your machines by hostname and domain you probably need to set up a caching nameserver to resolve your internal network. And point all your machines at it. Beech -- --- Beech Rintoul - Port Maintainer - [EMAIL PROTECTED] /\ ASCII Ribbon Campaign | FreeBSD Since 4.x \ / - NO HTML/RTF in e-mail | http://www.freebsd.org X - NO Word docs in e-mail | Latest Release: / \ - http://www.freebsd.org/releases/6.2R/announce.html --- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: fbsd 6.2 new boot time messages
Figured it out. Had a comment in rc.conf that was not preceded with # sign. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Bob Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2007 12:16 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ORG Subject: fbsd 6.2 new boot time messages Just installed 6.2 from cd and now see many Instructions: not found messages. What are these messages referring to??? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Is FreeBSD simple enough for Novices, Will FreeBSD accept Office 98 + Publisher?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OpenOffice in OSX still isn't that great either because there still isn't a native (Aqua) build. I suspect the NeoOffice folks would be surprised to hear that :) Yes _.. I mean that the latest and greatest version of OOo isn't available for Aqua native yet. It's going to take another year to port, as someone has claimed already. There was a big leap in terms of functionality from 1.x vs 2.x in OOo, but then again considering that the OP was asking about running Office 98 (:D..), I don't think he'd mind running the 1.x version binaries. -Garrett ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Help, please ....Port Install Problem, Google didn't help!
VeeJay wrote: Hello I am trying to run a perl script connecting a mysql50 database on a freebsd61 box. But I get this error: Can't locate Mysql.pm in @INC (@INC contains: /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.8/BSDPAN /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.8/mach /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.8 /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.8/mach /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.8 .) at.. But when I want to install perl database driver, I get this error: localhost# make install clean === p5-DBD-mysql50-4. depends on file: /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.8/mach/DBI.pm - found === p5-DBD-mysql50-4. depends on file: /usr/local/bin/perl5.8.8 - found === p5-DBD-mysql50-4. depends on shared library: mysqlclient.15 - not found ===Verifying install for mysqlclient.15 in /usr/ports/databases/mysql50-client === Installing for mysql-client-5.0.27 === Generating temporary packing list === Checking if databases/mysql50-client already installed === mysql-client-5.0.27 is already installed You may wish to ``make deinstall'' and install this port again by ``make reinstall'' to upgrade it properly. If you really wish to overwrite the old port of databases/mysql50-client without deleting it first, set the variable FORCE_PKG_REGISTER in your environment or the make install command line. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/databases/mysql50-client. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/databases/p5-DBD-mysql50. localhost# Please help and advise, what should I do? I have tried to google allready but could not find any solution Do as the directions say. cd to the port directory, run make deinstall, make install. If you get this all the time, try updating your ports, and/or contacting the maintainer because it could be an improper packing list, or some sort of weird circular dependencies (former rather than latter). -Garrett ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Hardware requirement
Reshmakov Roman wrote: We sucessfuly use amd64 arch on Intel Xeon CPUs. EMT64 is fully compatible with the major features in AMD64. However, IA64 (64-bit architecture made by Intel in older Xeons) isn't compatible with AMD Opterons AFAIK. Besides, IA64 doesn't allow binary/library profiling and requires all stuff to be done in 64-bit whereas EMT64 and AMD64 do allow for 32-bit and 64-bit operation, simultaneously IIRC. On Sat, Apr 28, 2007 at 12:56:04PM +0100, mukul choudhuri wrote: Would U Plz. tell me about MAX amount of RAM freeBSD supports per processor in SMP systems? Depends on the architecture. A 32 bit x86 chip can address 4GB, unless you have the PAE extension in the kernel. In that case it is 64 GB. Beware that some drivers are not compatible with PAE. As Roland suggested, you should go with non-PAE 32-bit (in this case 64-bit operating system) if you want more than 4GB of RAM. Look up the archives for this mailing list on recent discussion centered around this topic. The amd64 architecture has been tested with 8 GB. For other architectures, see the release notes: http://www.nl.freebsd.org/releases/6.2R/hardware.html Does a dualcore system be considered as SMP system? Say an AMD X2 or Core2Duo? Yes, AFAIK. Yes, they are. SMP = Symmetric multiprocessor system, which includes hyperthreading, multi-processor, and multi-core capable CPUs (or some hybrid variant of the above). Roland -Garrett ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Need your help
maximo4k wrote: Hello freebsd-questions, From: Maksym Kuvyklin[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: I have suspicion that somebody use my server like zombie server. Environment:FreeBSD mail.ukremb.com 5.5-RELEASE FreeBSD 5.5-RELEASE #6:MonApr 23 14:41:21 EDT 2007 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/MYKERNEL i386 Description: Sorry for my pure English. I am new in this community. I had detected that somebody tryed to penetrate via ssh into my server. When I had changed the port all this attempts were finished. Then server notified me about that somebody use my IP address and after that my network adapter had down. I had changed it to another one and the server had started work again. I have static IP address. But, now my connection is very slow. I have looked throught the logs and I had not found any tracks of penetration. Please, help me to solve this problem. What I'd do is determine from another machine if there's another machine trying to spoof your IP, and thus trying to do a man in the middle type of attack, knowingly or unknowingly. Contact your ISP or talk with your network admin and see if you can get the offender kicked off the network IF you are supposed to have a static IP address. If you set the IP address statically yourself and you don't manage your network or you didn't get the AOK from your network managers, you are IP squatting, which isn't a good idea in the first place, and technically you are the one at fault for causing this issue. If not, then you should check your machine for active connections (netstat -a -f inet), and see if there's anything out of the ordinary that you didn't expect to be running on your PC. If you still can't determine anything, check /var/log/auth.log -- this assumes you're running syslog; syslog can be turned on by going to rc.conf, adding SYSLOG_ENABLE=YES and then running /etc/rc.d/syslog start. After that, see if there are any users logging in that are unknown to you, or should not be logging in. Good things to think about when administering a system though: 1. Use strong passwords. 2. Turn off unnecessary services. 3. Reduce possible sources of entry into your system (ties into 2.). Cheers and best of luck, -Garrett ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
BSDstats: Minor Update to Port ...
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 It has been brought to my attention that there is / was an inherent flaw in how/when bsdstats is run ... it makes the assumption that the server is actually *running* at 5am on the 1st of each month, instead of shutdown as numerous offices do ... I've just made a slight change to the port so that it adds a bsdstats.sh script to /usr/local/etc/rc.d that can be enabled in /etc/rc.conf so that it runs on system reboot ... The script that prompts you to enable will auto-enable boottime reporting if you enable monthly reporting as well ... - Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email . [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSN . [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.orgICQ . 7615664 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFGM5934QvfyHIvDvMRAmHMAKC/scpziDRgGfjge4Xgd6c1yHs1QACg6Ysl +UPjZuM2FlOGKB2DJ2xaruc= =3hFG -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
normal mount points
I ran the df command last night to check slice sizes in anticipation of doing some backup and eventual tranfer to a new machine. The output gave me not just normal slices that were created at install but also three additional (mount points?) /proc /net /host The machine is a simple web server and print server with little else on it. Can some explain to me (or point me to) an explanation of mount points? Thanks, Graham/ -- Graham North Vancouver BC Canada www.soleado.ca Kindness is infectous, try it. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
common freebsd mount points?
I ran the df command last night to check slice sizes in anticipation of doing some backup and eventual tranfer to a new machine. The output gave me not just normal slices that were created at install but also three additional (mount points?) /proc /net /host The machine is a simple web server and print server with little else on it. Can some explain to me (or point me to) an explanation of mount points? Thanks, Graham/ -- Graham North Vancouver BC Canada www.soleado.ca Kindness is infectous, try it. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
misc question #2:: howto stream .RAM/realplay via kmplayer??
I'm still building my backup DNS server on my remaining Kayak
playing with various window managers (aka desktops). Stuck.
To any browser/media/audio wizards out there in freebsd-land:
A few weeks ago (after failing with both mozilla and firefox)
I tried the KDE broswer to stream video. And after several
tries, got kmplayer working with Konqueror. It streams windows
video and better yet, streams windows audio (using the Mplayer
backend). But there are some NPR/PBS webcasts only in
real-audio. After a few hours of poking around the web and
trying to reconfigure Konqueror I-give-up.
I've reached the File Association - Audio and to
x-pn-realplay {or something like that}, then I'm wedged.
Is there an honest textfile I can use to associate [.ra, .rm,
.ram] with /usr/X11R6/bin/realplay
thanks for any help!
gary
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Re: normal mount points
On 28/04/07, Graham North [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I ran the df command last night to check slice sizes in anticipation of doing some backup and eventual tranfer to a new machine. The output gave me not just normal slices that were created at install but also three additional (mount points?) /proc /net /host The machine is a simple web server and print server with little else on it. Can some explain to me (or point me to) an explanation of mount points? Filesystem 1K-blocks UsedAvail Capacity Mounted on /dev/ad0s1a 101297436926 895012 4%/ devfs 110 100%/dev /dev/ad2s1d 5616214 716542 445037614%/home /dev/ad0s1e 101297422352 909586 2%/tmp . . . Mount points are merely directories where devices are mounted as part of the filesystem. These can be automatically mounted by a listing in /etc/fstab or manually mounted using /sbin/mount. That they show up in df's listing means that something is in fact mounted on it. Typing mount at a command prompt will give you a listing of mounted devices like so: /dev/ad0s1a on / (ufs, local) devfs on /dev (devfs, local) /dev/ad2s1d on /home (ufs, NFS exported, local, nosuid, soft-updates) /dev/ad0s1e on /tmp (ufs, local, soft-updates) . . . As none of those above (/proc /net /host) are part of the standard layout (Well, /proc was on 4.x and earlier) some- one at some time has added them. -- -- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How do I forward old root emails from the root mailbox to my address?
On Apr 25, 2007, at 6:23 AMApr 25, 2007, Andreas Widerøe Andersen wrote: On 4/25/07, Oliver Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Apr 25, 2007 at 11:11:07AM +0200, Andreas Widere Andersen wrote: Hi, On one of my FreeBSD servers all system emails to root is stored in the root mailbox under /var/mail/root. I have updated my alias file so new mail is forwarded to one of my email adresses, but is there a simple way for me to send all these old mails in root's mailbox to my email address without logging in through pop3/imap? A command line trick would be perfect. mutt is your friend. Open the mbox file with # mutt -R -f /var/mail/root Then Tag all mails (press 'T' then enter '.') and bounce the tagged messages (press ';' and thenn 'b') to your personal email address. That's the easiest way I know. (Of course you need a running MTA, too) Thanks for your reply. I don't have mutt installed and I was hoping for a way of doing this without installing additional software. Also, I didn't mention that on one of the machines there are probably a year of emails so the box is quite large. Any other ways? I have sendmail installed and running. Cheers, Andreas Andreas, Edit /etc/mail/aliases and uncomment the root: line and make it look like: root: your_username Where your_username is the local account and/or email address you want to recieve root email. Save the file, while in the /etc/mail directory, run 'make install make restart' as root, without the quotes. all email will now go to the new address. Eric___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Login Conf not parsed ?
On Apr 26, 2007, at 8:57 PMApr 26, 2007, Tommy Scheunemann wrote: Hello everyone, I'm running a FreeBSD 6.2 system, only have SSH access to it. The only user which is allowed to login had Bash (installed from the Ports) installed. Since 2 days I can't login any longer - Bash misses a library. I tried to create a login_conf file in the users home directory but it seems that the file isn't parsed. Content is: --- snip --- me:\ :shell=/bin/sh:\ :setenv=SHELL=/bin/sh: --- snip --- I've created the database via cap_mkdb at my local system and uploaded this file as well, then changed the file permissions to 0400 and ownership is right as well. Just - that file isn't parsed :( Any other way of changing the user's shell - could install in the worst case some kind of PHP shell - are also welcome. The library which is missing could be uploaded from my local system, just - of course - I don't have any write permissions in the usual locations. Thanks in advance If you can do that, why not change the shell in /etc/master.passwd and rebuild that database? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: normal mount points
Hmmm. My system is 4.11 so that would explain /proc. Could /net and /host be related to running apache or samba? I did not knowingly create these devices I haven't been as vigilant as I could have been for security (one of my reasons for an upcoming reinstall), so there is a possibility of the server being hijacked...? But I don't want to assume the worst on false concersns.. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 28/04/07, Graham North [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I ran the df command last night to check slice sizes in anticipation of doing some backup and eventual tranfer to a new machine. The output gave me not just normal slices that were created at install but also three additional (mount points?) /proc /net /host The machine is a simple web server and print server with little else on it. Can some explain to me (or point me to) an explanation of mount points? Filesystem 1K-blocks UsedAvail Capacity Mounted on /dev/ad0s1a 101297436926 895012 4%/ devfs 110 100%/dev /dev/ad2s1d 5616214 716542 445037614%/home /dev/ad0s1e 101297422352 909586 2%/tmp . . . Mount points are merely directories where devices are mounted as part of the filesystem. These can be automatically mounted by a listing in /etc/fstab or manually mounted using /sbin/mount. That they show up in df's listing means that something is in fact mounted on it. Typing mount at a command prompt will give you a listing of mounted devices like so: /dev/ad0s1a on / (ufs, local) devfs on /dev (devfs, local) /dev/ad2s1d on /home (ufs, NFS exported, local, nosuid, soft-updates) /dev/ad0s1e on /tmp (ufs, local, soft-updates) . . . As none of those above (/proc /net /host) are part of the standard layout (Well, /proc was on 4.x and earlier) some- one at some time has added them. -- Graham North Vancouver BC Canada www.soleado.ca Kindness is infectous, try it. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
problem with php5 port where ports are to look to see if dependants are available
The php5 port seems to look in the port dir tree for installed dependants instead of the /ver/db/pkg I have all of php5 dependants preinstalled as packages. I install the dependants for (port named links. Which is a command line browser) as packages and then do the make install clean command in the LINKS port tree directory so I can change the install defaults to use sva support and it finds all its dependants are loaded and complies fine. Using this same technique for php5 it says the dependants are not installed when I run the php5 port. Looks like the port php5 is looking in the ports directory tree to determine if the dependants are installed. I think this is incorrect behavior. Is this a problem in the way the php5 port is written? It's my understanding that ports are suppose to be written to check /ver/db/pkg to determine if dependants are available. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: misc question #2:: howto stream .RAM/realplay via kmplayer??
On Saturday 28 April 2007 21:57:21 Gary Kline wrote:
I'm still building my backup DNS server on my remaining Kayak
playing with various window managers (aka desktops). Stuck.
To any browser/media/audio wizards out there in freebsd-land:
A few weeks ago (after failing with both mozilla and firefox)
I tried the KDE broswer to stream video. And after several
tries, got kmplayer working with Konqueror. It streams windows
video and better yet, streams windows audio (using the Mplayer
backend). But there are some NPR/PBS webcasts only in
real-audio. After a few hours of poking around the web and
trying to reconfigure Konqueror I-give-up.
I've reached the File Association - Audio and to
x-pn-realplay {or something like that}, then I'm wedged.
Is there an honest textfile I can use to associate [.ra, .rm,
.ram] with /usr/X11R6/bin/realplay
thanks for any help!
gary
First, you need to confirm that you can play Real in kmplayer. You must have
the win32 codecs. Fast forward and such in a Real stream will be a bitch. But
it plays. Then you want to go through the mime types in konqueror's config
and set kmplayer to the first app to play such types with. And for embedding
(the other tab) set the kmplayer_part or whatsitcalled as the first or only.
Mime types would include/have: vn-realmedia, rm, ra, ram, rv, smil,
vn-realaudio vn-realvideo, x-pn-realaudio, and several other older ones. If
you don't find them all at first you'll find them when encountering a oddly
mime-ified stream that wont play.
There's another way to have Real with konqueror, and that is with the plugin
that comes with the realplayer port. It may have poor layout in the webpage
but at least it does support moving back and forth in the stream. To make
this work you use the linuxpluginwrapper port and an appropriate libmap.conf.
Both work reasonably well, or equally bad depending on the tilting of the
earth and the humidity on the moon :) I usually prefer kmplayer because it
can be used as a general a/v plugin replacement in konqueror and if something
with Real doesn't work I can always try to Open with.. realplayer instead.
HTH,
Dan
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Re: Greylisting -- Was: Anti Spam
On Apr 28, 2007, at 5:29 AM, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Christopher Hilton Sent: Friday, April 27, 2007 2:45 PM To: Ted Mittelstaedt Cc: User Questions Subject: Re: Greylisting -- Was: Anti Spam Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: [snip] When I scan my maillogs I find that 22% of the hosts that generate a greylisting entry retry the mail delivery and thus get whitelisted. The other 78% don't attempt redelivery within the greylisting window. That's probably par. However, the reason your putting so much faith in the delaying, is simply that you aren't getting a lot of spam. I have published e-mail addresses. Without greylisting I got about 1500-2000 mail messages a day to each of them. Greylisting isn't just about delaying. IIRC greylisting is filtering for spam/ham based on behaviour in the message originators MTA. My greylister is using two behavioural assumptions: Spamming MTA's don't have the capability to queue and retry mail. Asking them to queue and retry will cause them to drop the mail on the floor thus filtering spam. Spamming MTA's don't like to be tarpitted. Stuttering at them and sizing the TCP Windows so they must wait will result in them disconnecting before they can exchanged mail thus filtering spam. Both of those are assumptions your making that are just not true anymore. Spammers are adapting to greylisting. I've been running it for at least 2 years now and every month more and more spam is making it past the greylist and getting caught by spamassassin. As I mentioned previously, it does not take a lot of programming effort to do it. Sure they're adapting. They're also adapting to Spamassassin. The fact that it doesn't take a lot of programming effort isn't the reason, though, since it doesn't take a lot of effort to NOT TOP POST yet people continue to do so. When I first setup greylisting the results were literally spectacular. Nowadays they are great, but not much beyond that. All of the things your saying about greylisting decreasing the load and all that are true, and just because it's not as effective as it once was doesen't mean you should not use it. But, I am not blind to what my eyes are telling me. In aonther 5 years, greylisting will be like all other spamfilter techniques, effective only against a minority of spam And yet there are still people, despite the problem spammers are creating, who think that email is a vital and reliable service upon which to hinge the success or failure of their business relations. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Greylisting -- Was: Anti Spam
On Apr 28, 2007, at 5:25 AM, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: -Original Message- From: Bart Silverstrim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 27, 2007 1:58 PM To: Ted Mittelstaedt Cc: Christopher Hilton; Grant Peel; Eric Crist; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Greylisting -- Was: Anti Spam On Apr 26, 2007, at 12:15 AM, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: There are legitimate technical reasons that someone may want their mail to not be greylisted. For example, my cell phone's e-mail address is in our monitoring scripts to page me in the event of a server failure. I would be pretty pissed off if Sprint suddenly started greylisting. It isn't just dumb-ass users making stupid political decisions to reject it, although in your case it probably was. If it is a legitimate mail server, it would be promoted to the auto- whitelist. Not all mail is constantly greylisted by most intelligent greylist systems. Only the first few messages would be delayed, until it is established as legitimate. That won't work in my case since I generally only have a failure that causes a problem which results in paging about once every 3 months or so. By the time the pages got through the greylist it would be at least an hour later after the system had gone down. That isn't acceptable for a notification system. What? What do you mean, a failure that causes a problem which results in paging once every 3 months? If your mail server tries to contact another mail server and it can't reach it, you're saying your mail server doesn't retry for an hour? Even if it does take an hour, the fact that it retried the server on the other side doing the greylisting means it would be whitelisted after a couple mails. If you're doing something SO critical that three or four mails delayed an hour, until you're establishes as a legit user, means life or death, you definitely should be doing something that backs up how you communicate with other sites, or you're not such a big fish that the other sites have already added you manually to their whitelists like AOL or Amazon mail servers would most likely be already, or other local ISPs that are known legit and I just don't feel like waiting for the system to add them automatically. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: normal mount points
On Sat, Apr 28, 2007 at 11:21:20AM -0700, Graham North wrote: I ran the df command last night to check slice sizes in anticipation of doing some backup and eventual tranfer to a new machine. The output gave me not just normal slices that were created at install but also three additional (mount points?) /proc /net /host No problem. /proc is sort of a psuedo file system that enables some routines such as top to look at certain pieces of information. Probably /net and /host are also psuedo file systems, but I have never seen them before. If they are legit, they are for something I do not run. The machine is a simple web server and print server with little else on it. Can some explain to me (or point me to) an explanation of mount points? A mount point is just a directory where the system attaches pointers to some type of data structure.You create a mountpoint using the mkdir command just like with a directory. It only becomes a mountpoint when something is attached to it - a file system or some other system structure. Of course, actual file systems such as for / or /usr or /home are the most common seen, others, including memory file systems can be created and attached to a directory. When a filesystem is mounted over a directory, if there is something else in the directory - other files and directories - they are covered up until the attached item is unmounted. That all probably isn't very clear, but it should at least let you not worry too much. jerry Thanks, Graham/ -- Graham North Vancouver BC Canada www.soleado.ca Kindness is infectous, try it. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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I understand quotas were broken in 6.1. I am testing 6.2 where I thought they were working again. However, it behaves considerably differently from 5.x. I set both a hard and soft limit on a user to the same value. Adding disk usage to that user past that limit succeeds. quota shows the limit as having been exceeded but with a grace period of 7 days. I don't want a grace period, but a hard limit. I used edquota -t to change the grace periods for the partition to 1 day (per the man page). However, it still shows a 7 day grace period with quota and the limit is not enforced. Did I miss something or is there still a problem with quotas. Thanks. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: misc question #2:: howto stream .RAM/realplay via kmplayer??
On Sun, Apr 29, 2007 at 12:32:37AM +0200, Danny Pansters wrote:
On Saturday 28 April 2007 21:57:21 Gary Kline wrote:
I'm still building my backup DNS server on my remaining Kayak
playing with various window managers (aka desktops). Stuck.
To any browser/media/audio wizards out there in freebsd-land:
A few weeks ago (after failing with both mozilla and firefox)
I tried the KDE broswer to stream video. And after several
tries, got kmplayer working with Konqueror. It streams windows
video and better yet, streams windows audio (using the Mplayer
backend). But there are some NPR/PBS webcasts only in
real-audio. After a few hours of poking around the web and
trying to reconfigure Konqueror I-give-up.
I've reached the File Association - Audio and to
x-pn-realplay {or something like that}, then I'm wedged.
Is there an honest textfile I can use to associate [.ra, .rm,
.ram] with /usr/X11R6/bin/realplay
thanks for any help!
gary
First, you need to confirm that you can play Real in kmplayer. You must have
the win32 codecs. Fast forward and such in a Real stream will be a bitch. But
it plays. Then you want to go through the mime types in konqueror's config
and set kmplayer to the first app to play such types with. And for embedding
(the other tab) set the kmplayer_part or whatsitcalled as the first or only.
Yeah, I finally finally clicked on the Other tab. But then what?
Where are the mimetypes and config for konqueror??
Mime types would include/have: vn-realmedia, rm, ra, ram, rv, smil,
vn-realaudio vn-realvideo, x-pn-realaudio, and several other older ones. If
you don't find them all at first you'll find them when encountering a oddly
mime-ified stream that wont play.
I do have a ~/.mimetypes file on this server. Maybe I'll
just scp it over and see.
There's another way to have Real with konqueror, and that is with the plugin
that comes with the realplayer port. It may have poor layout in the webpage
but at least it does support moving back and forth in the stream. To make
this work you use the linuxpluginwrapper port and an appropriate libmap.conf.
Well getting the plugin is a no-brainer; same with the
linuxwrapper/plugin port; but the libmap.cnf is another matter!
Do you have one to send? Or anyone else on-list?
Both work reasonably well, or equally bad depending on the tilting of the
earth and the humidity on the moon :) I usually prefer kmplayer because it
can be used as a general a/v plugin replacement in konqueror and if something
with Real doesn't work I can always try to Open with.. realplayer instead.
:-)
I do the open-with and it starts to work/tries to, then hangs.
I'd just like to be able to watch the BBC/PBS stuff and listen to
Windose or Real streams without too much hassle!
HTH,
So far, so good, thankee!
gary
Dan
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Re: normal mount points
in message [EMAIL PROTECTED],
wrote Jerry McAllister thusly...
On Sat, Apr 28, 2007 at 11:21:20AM -0700, Graham North wrote:
I ran the df command last night to check slice sizes in
anticipation of doing some backup and eventual tranfer to a new
machine. The output gave me not just normal slices that were
created at install but also three additional (mount points?)
/proc
/net
/host
No problem. /proc is sort of a psuedo file system that enables
some routines such as top to look at certain pieces of
information.
Probably /net and /host are also psuedo file systems, but I have
never seen them before. If they are legit, they are for something
I do not run.
Could it be that /{ne,hos}t mount points are due to use of
a{manda,utomounter}?
- Parv
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RE: Is FreeBSD simple enough for Novices, Will FreeBSD accept Office 98 + Publisher?
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Garrett Cooper Sent: Sunday, 29 April 2007 4:28 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Is FreeBSD simple enough for Novices, Will FreeBSD accept Office 98 + Publisher? [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OpenOffice in OSX still isn't that great either because there still isn't a native (Aqua) build. I suspect the NeoOffice folks would be surprised to hear that :) Yes _.. I mean that the latest and greatest version of OOo isn't available for Aqua native yet. It's going to take another year to port, as someone has claimed already. There was a big leap in terms of functionality from 1.x vs 2.x in OOo, but then again considering that the OP was asking about running Office 98 (:D..), I don't think he'd mind running the 1.x version binaries. -Garrett As the original poster wants to write books may I suggest that he use a text editor and then a typesetter combination rather than any form of WYSIWYG wordprocessor. IE use (insert favourite text editor here) then use the LaTeX / Tetex port to actually properly format the material as a book. Yes there is a learning curve here, but the end result is all over a wordprocessed attempt. mjt --- The information transmitted in this e-mail is for the exclusive use of the intended addressee and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, re-transmission, dissemination or other use of it, or the taking of any action in reliance upon this information by persons and/or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this in error, please inform the sender and/or addressee immediately and delete the material. E-mails may not be secure, may contain computer viruses and may be corrupted in transmission. Please carefully check this e-mail (and any attachment) accordingly. No warranties are given and no liability is accepted for any loss or damage caused by such matters. --- ### This e-mail message has been scanned for Viruses by Bytecraft ### ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Is FreeBSD simple enough for Novices, Will FreeBSD accept Office 98 + Publisher?
On Fri, Apr 27, 2007 at 10:20:27PM -0400, james thompson wrote: How difficult is FreeBSD to use in place of MS windows, say compared to Apple OSX? Well, it depends on your personality and work habits and expectations. I find FreeBSD easier to use than MS and have had very little contact with MAC so can't say much about that one.But, I don't like the windows way of working. I prefer a command line and text based environment. I believe it may be able to run Offide 98; can Office 98 with Publisher be ran on FreeBSD? You can get utilities called emulators and virtual environments to allow many MS type things to run, but you need to know that FreeBSD is not at all like MS Windows except that it runs on a computer and you can bring up multiple screens. The two are completely different and incompatible systems. As an Operating System (OS), that is robust and secure and powerful, FreeBSD is much superior to MS-win, but it does things very differently. Generally, if you really want to mainly use actual MS programs, then you probably really want to run MS, rather than trying to run them on FreeBSD. I want to use FreeBSD to compose articles, and combine them into a Book for publication, as a Home Office Operation by a person with little experience beyond windows. In 1995, I took a MicroComputer Operating Systems course in Windows 3.11 and DOS 6.22. I have used Windows 95, 98, and XP Home upgraded to Media Edition. There are many good alternatives to MS utilities for these things. The OpenOffice system can substitute for MS Word and Excel, etc. But those might not be the best for book writing. Learning to create with a straight text editor and include text markups for some formatting language is probably a better solution. Those are all readily available in FreeBSD and are better in FreeBSD than in MS, actually. But, FreeBSD takes some learning to use well. Although once you do learn about it, it will seem quite natural to use, it takes a while to get to that point. Learning by doing with handbook readily availble is the way to go. In the [not very] long run, it will be worth it. jerry ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: normal mount points
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