DNS /etc/namedb owner hell

2008-02-20 Thread Deian Popov
Hello,

I have the following problem with bind:

it is configured to run as bind:bind and after every reboot of the system
all files and directories under /etc/namedb become owned by root:wheel so
bind is unable is unable to update it's zone files after dhcpd leases IP to
any given client. How to fix either owner, or set somewhere that the owner
of this folder, subfolder and files is my DNS server?
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DJ500 dead after = 16 years.

2008-02-20 Thread Gary Kline
Guys, I need some input about what kind of _new_ printer to buy
for my desktops.  I'd like to hang the printer off my FBSD box;
my Ubuntu platform is probably too far away. At least 3 meters.

Circa '01 or '02 I figured my olden DJ500 had cost ~$45/year.
Not counting the ink.  It kept chugging around until a month or
so ago and by now  it really is worm out.  It makes it's old,
clunking, grinding sounds when I power dowwn, but nothing when I
boot up.  And a friend stopped by this afternoon and checked.
Cabling is fine; printer has power.  None of the buttons respond;
no  reset, no formfeed, nada.  Only two of the usual three LED's
are lit, so it's probably broken, burn-out, or worn out wires
somewhere.   

The problem with buying New---and my wife is threatening me 
if I buy some older, junker printer---the problem is getting any 
of these printers that do everything but shine your shoes is:
are there drivers to make them work with FreeBSD?  I don't care 
about fax, or features like scanning and copying.   About the same 
with color since most files are code or essays.

Nutshell, I'd like anyone's ideas/experiences with some of these 
new HP/ or whateverbrand printers. I wouldn't *mind* if I
could scan in text from a techy paper into HTML or PDF or text.
But mostly, like 99.44%  plain black text.  My old deskjet used
gs as a filter to print PostScript.  Do we have any such plugin
support, or are printers still roll-your-own?  [FWIW, I can't
seem to get CUPS working...  altho it maay be my misssing
/dev/lpt0.]

gary




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Re: 32 bit FreeBSD compiled binary coredumps on 64 bit(amd) FreeBSD

2008-02-20 Thread Heiko Wundram (Beenic)
Am Mittwoch, 20. Februar 2008 07:17:30 schrieb navneet Upadhyay:
I am compiling the binary on 32 bit FreeBSD and running it on 64
 (amd64)bit FreeBSD . FreeBSD says it is possible to do so.
But my application core dumps . I investigated the reason which is
 as follows :

 The problem is in the call retval = sysctl(mib, 4, kp, sz, NULL, 0);
 where sz is size of kp and where kp is a structure of type kinfo_proc. The
 size of this structure on 32bit system is 768 and on 64 bit system is 1088.

 The call works on 32 bit system but when run on 64 bit system it coredumps
 , because of the size mismatch of kinfo_proc .

 If i hardcode the sz to 1088 then it works on amd64 systems , how do i deal
 with it. I am anticipating lot of coredumps like that, what is a generic
 solution for such kinds of problems.

Without investigating further whether the structure up to byte 768 is 
different (wrt. structure member offsets, and thus wrt. to hardcoded 
constants in the binary file), which would be a real showstopper for the 
i386-emulation on amd64 (and thus I can't see it being that way), see the 
documentation of sysctl:

RETURN VALUES
 Upon successful completion, the value 0 is returned; otherwise the
 value -1 is returned and the global variable errno is set to indicate the
 error.

ERRORS
 [ENOMEM]   The length pointed to by oldlenp is too short to hold
the requested value.


So, basically, you should check in the call whether sysctl returned -1 (with 
errno set to ENOMEM), and enlarge the buffer if so, until it doesn't 
return -1 anymore. This should handle i386 and amd64 transparently (if the 
offsets up to byte 768 are equal/similar).

In case you're trying to recompile the application on 64-bit, you should use 
sizeof() anyway to automatically adapt the initial buffer size reserved for 
the output buffer depending on the definition of the structure (which will 
also spare you pain if a FreeBSD upgrade changes the structure).

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Re: 32 bit FreeBSD compiled binary coredumps on 64 bit(amd) FreeBSD

2008-02-20 Thread Wojciech Puchar

If i hardcode the sz to 1088 then it works on amd64 systems , how do i deal
with it. I am anticipating lot of coredumps like that, what is a generic
solution for such kinds of problems.


to compile both versions.
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Re: FreeBSD Linux distro

2008-02-20 Thread Wojciech Puchar

AFAIK it just depends of software installed, and it can be both..


Yup.   That be the case.
I think the poster just meant that FreeBSD tends to get software


FreeBSD DOES NOT TEND to install anything more than a base system, doesn't 
start any services than minimum too.


everything else is up to user, which i OK

that's all. FreeBSD is just an operating system. and fortunately nothing 
more.

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Re: DJ500 dead after = 16 years.

2008-02-20 Thread Erik Cederstrand

Gary Kline wrote:


	Nutshell, I'd like anyone's ideas/experiences with some of these 
	new HP/ or whateverbrand printers. I wouldn't *mind* if I

could scan in text from a techy paper into HTML or PDF or text.
But mostly, like 99.44%  plain black text.  My old deskjet used
gs as a filter to print PostScript.  Do we have any such plugin
support, or are printers still roll-your-own?  [FWIW, I can't
seem to get CUPS working...  altho it maay be my misssing
/dev/lpt0.]



I suggest getting a network printer. Most of them support the IPP
printing protocol, and if it eats PostScript then it's pretty much
guaranteed to work on every operating system under the sun. Saves you
from fiddling with drivers for FreeBSD and setting up CUPS.

Erik

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Re: FTPD and IExplore

2008-02-20 Thread Wojciech Puchar



Hi. My problem is i cannot connect to my ftp server (started from inetd) via 
IExplore
or any other web browser. I've added user ftp to enable anonymous logins on my 
ftp
server and it works when connecting via ftp client such as Total Commander. But 
it
doesn't work via any web browser.


no it's not because of freebsd version. it's just internet explorer. it's 
ftp client may work. or may not ;)

that's it.
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Re: DNS /etc/namedb owner hell

2008-02-20 Thread Ruben de Groot
On Wed, Feb 20, 2008 at 10:09:53AM +0200, Deian Popov typed:
 Hello,
 
 I have the following problem with bind:
 
 it is configured to run as bind:bind and after every reboot of the system
 all files and directories under /etc/namedb become owned by root:wheel so
 bind is unable is unable to update it's zone files after dhcpd leases IP to
 any given client. How to fix either owner, or set somewhere that the owner
 of this folder, subfolder and files is my DNS server?

Try setting named_chroot_autoupdate to NO in your rc.conf

Ruben

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FTPD and IExplore

2008-02-20 Thread klerfe [Bodegas]
Hi. My problem is i cannot connect to my ftp server (started from inetd) via 
IExplore
or any other web browser. I've added user ftp to enable anonymous logins on my 
ftp
server and it works when connecting via ftp client such as Total Commander. But 
it
doesn't work via any web browser. My OS is FreeBSD 6.2. I had 5.4 before, and
i didn't had this problem on previous machine. The problem appeared when i 
freshly
reinstalled the operating system. Any suggestions?
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Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-N650SLI-DS4

2008-02-20 Thread David Naylor
Hi,

I am currently replacing my defunct motherboard, I am unable to test
the hardware before purchase and I am seeking advice on which
motherboard to get.

Upon review I have selected a Gigabyte GA-N650SLI-DS4, does FreeBSD
work with this board.  It does have a nForce 650i (and I am not sure
FreeBSD works with it?)

If anyone has an alternative suggestion please let me know.  The
motherboard will have to support (my budget is about  ZAR2000 ~
USD275):
o) Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600
o) 4x 800Mhz DDR2 Ram
o) 2x SATA HDD
o) 2x IDE CDROM Drive
o) 2x nVidia 7600 GT

Thank you all for your help

David
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Re: FTPD and IExplore

2008-02-20 Thread Dominic Fandrey

klerfe [Bodegas] wrote:

Hi. My problem is i cannot connect to my ftp server (started from inetd) via 
IExplore
or any other web browser. I've added user ftp to enable anonymous logins on my 
ftp
server and it works when connecting via ftp client such as Total Commander. But 
it
doesn't work via any web browser. My OS is FreeBSD 6.2. I had 5.4 before, and
i didn't had this problem on previous machine. The problem appeared when i 
freshly
reinstalled the operating system. Any suggestions?


You probably just have to activate passive ftp in your browsers.
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Re: Is my hard ware sufficient?

2008-02-20 Thread Lone Wolf
It is not bundled.  Almost nothing is bundled.
But it is available in ports and installing it is one of the
special options during a standard installtion.

Please correct me if I'm wrong:
GNOME (or KDE) in included in FreeBSD downloaded file but it isn't installed by 
default, but it can be installed during installation process if I want to.
If I'm wrong, does this mean that I have to connect to Internet during FreeBSD 
installation?
Thanks.

Jerry McAllister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Feb 19, 2008 at 01:19:51AM 
-0800, Lone Wolf wrote:

 I'm not going to serve any one, I just want to take a small test drive 
 with FreeBSD .
 Regarding my graphic card, it is 32 MB, is it ok?

I suppose it depends on the graphics card model, but probably.
Check that hardware compatibility list.  In this case it would
be compatibility with Xorg since that is the display/graphics system.

 Does FreeBSD come bundled with GNOME?

It is not bundled.  Almost nothing is bundled.
But it is available in ports and installing it is one of the
special options during a standard installtion.

 Thanks demons!

That is daemon, not demon.
There is a big difference.

jerry

 
 Olivier Nicole  wrote:  I'm thinking to install FreeBSD on my old PC.
  ---
  Processor: Intel Celeron 1.3 GH
  RAM: 192 MB
  ---
  Is my hard ware sufficient?
 
 Sufficient to do what?
 
 Until not so long ago, my DNS server was a PIII 550 MHz, with
 something like 120 MB RAM, serving about 150 clients.
 
 I changed the hardware mostly because I had bigger machines available.
 
 Olivier
 
 
 
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Re: FTPD and IExplore

2008-02-20 Thread Pieter de Goeje
On Wednesday 20 February 2008, Wojciech Puchar wrote:
  Hi. My problem is i cannot connect to my ftp server (started from inetd)
  via IExplore or any other web browser. I've added user ftp to enable
  anonymous logins on my ftp server and it works when connecting via ftp
  client such as Total Commander. But it doesn't work via any web browser.

 no it's not because of freebsd version. it's just internet explorer. it's
 ftp client may work. or may not ;)
 that's it.
This answer leaves a lot to be desired. If you have something useful to add 
please do, but otherwise leave it up to other people to answer such 
questions.

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Re: Is my hard ware sufficient?

2008-02-20 Thread Erich Dollansky

Hi,

Lone Wolf wrote:

It is not bundled.  Almost nothing is bundled.

But it is available in ports and installing it is one of the
special options during a standard installtion.


it is an option depending on your installation menthod.


Please correct me if I'm wrong:
GNOME (or KDE) in included in FreeBSD downloaded file but it isn't installed by 
default, but it can be installed during installation process if I want to.
If I'm wrong, does this mean that I have to connect to Internet during FreeBSD 
installation?
Thanks.


There are several ways to install FreeBSD.

The simplest would be the download of an ISO image of for the first CD, 
burn it and boot the machine with it.


You can then install all packages from the CD without an Internet 
connection.


Normally, all the things needed to have a decent computer are on this 
CD. GNOME was earlier always included.


After FreeBSD is up and running, you can install the ports system and 
install any program from the ports collection via an Internet connection.


Erich
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Re: Is my hard ware sufficient?

2008-02-20 Thread Lone Wolf
Thank you for explanation :)
So, if GNOME/KDE can be installed on FreeBSD, what are the advantages of 
BSD-based desktop systems like DesktopBSD/PC-BSD over FreeBSD?
just the graphical installer?

Erich Dollansky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi,

Lone Wolf wrote:
 It is not bundled.  Almost nothing is bundled.
 But it is available in ports and installing it is one of the
 special options during a standard installtion.
 
it is an option depending on your installation menthod.

 Please correct me if I'm wrong:
 GNOME (or KDE) in included in FreeBSD downloaded file but it isn't installed 
 by default, but it can be installed during installation process if I want to.
 If I'm wrong, does this mean that I have to connect to Internet during 
 FreeBSD installation?
 Thanks.

There are several ways to install FreeBSD.

The simplest would be the download of an ISO image of for the first CD, 
burn it and boot the machine with it.

You can then install all packages from the CD without an Internet 
connection.

Normally, all the things needed to have a decent computer are on this 
CD. GNOME was earlier always included.

After FreeBSD is up and running, you can install the ports system and 
install any program from the ports collection via an Internet connection.

Erich



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npviewer.bin.core

2008-02-20 Thread Matthias Apitz

Hello,

 From time to time I see in my HOME a file:

$ ls -l npviewer.bin.core
-rw---   1 guru  wheel   12320768 19 feb 15:09 npviewer.bin.core

it seems that it's a core file from some nspluginwrapper:

# find /usr -name npviewer.bin -print
/usr/local/lib/nspluginwrapper/i386/linux/npviewer.bin

Is it worth to file a bug report or just remove it by cron job?
Thx

matthias

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Re: Is my hard ware sufficient?

2008-02-20 Thread Erich Dollansky

Hi,

Lone Wolf wrote:

Thank you for explanation :)
So, if GNOME/KDE can be installed on FreeBSD, what are the advantages of 
BSD-based desktop systems like DesktopBSD/PC-BSD over FreeBSD?
just the graphical installer?


those projects make FreeBSD easier to install and administer.

I never tried one of them. Friends did but faced later smaller problems. 
They all could be solved the FreeBSD way.


So, staying with FreeBSD gives the advantage of working with the real 
thing and the disadvantage of handling more complex matters in real 
strange ways. It is all so simple for people working with FreeBSD since 
years but it looks strange for people coming from different professions ...


Erich


Erich Dollansky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi,

Lone Wolf wrote:

It is not bundled.  Almost nothing is bundled.

But it is available in ports and installing it is one of the
special options during a standard installtion.


it is an option depending on your installation menthod.


Please correct me if I'm wrong:
GNOME (or KDE) in included in FreeBSD downloaded file but it isn't installed by 
default, but it can be installed during installation process if I want to.
If I'm wrong, does this mean that I have to connect to Internet during FreeBSD 
installation?
Thanks.


There are several ways to install FreeBSD.

The simplest would be the download of an ISO image of for the first CD, 
burn it and boot the machine with it.


You can then install all packages from the CD without an Internet 
connection.


Normally, all the things needed to have a decent computer are on this 
CD. GNOME was earlier always included.


After FreeBSD is up and running, you can install the ports system and 
install any program from the ports collection via an Internet connection.


Erich



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Re: Bad performance of 7.0 nfs client with Solaris nfs server

2008-02-20 Thread Claus Guttesen
  we have a FreeBSD 7.0 NFS client (csup today, built world and kernel).
  It mounts a Solaris 10 NFS share.
  We have bad performance with 7.0 (3MB/s).
  We have tried both UDP and TCP mounts, both sync and async.
  This is our mount:
 
  nest.xx.xx:/data/export/hosts/bsd7.xx.xx/ /mnt/nest.xx.xx nfs
  noatime,async,-i,rw,-T,-3
 
  Both our server (7.0 and Solaris 10) are Gigabit Ethernet, both are HP
  Proliant DL360 i386 (NIC bge0):

I have a solaris 9 nfs-server (on sparc) with som TB on HDS attached
to it with two qlogic-hba's. These partitions are shared to our
webservers via nfs, according to my mrtg-graph I get approx. 8 MB/s at
peak. I can probably get more but the requirement is not there.

With four-way-servers and FreeBSD 6.2 I had a read- and write-size of
8192. I ended up with this size by copying to and from the nfs-server
until I didn't get nfs server not responding; is alive again
message. Then I upgraded to FreeBSD 7.0 in October 2007 on a new
eight-way-server I started to get not responding; alive again during
load. So I decreased rw-size to the current 2048.

When I decreased the size I also avoided another problem (by accident
:-) ). When uploading images I sometimes saw ImageMagick's convert
went into an (almost) infinite loop, comsuming 100 % cpu (on one core)
until killed. Reducing the rw-size eliminated this issue.

fstab-entry:

my.nfs.server:/archive   /archive  nfs
rw,nfsv3,-w=2048,-r=20480   0

I'm using udp-mounts, does not appear to change performance for my part.

HTH.
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porting acx driver from dragonfly to fbsd?

2008-02-20 Thread Anton Shterenlikht
I note DragonFly have acx(4) driver, which supports some acx100
and acx111 wireless chips:
http://leaf.dragonflybsd.org/cgi/web-man?command=acxsection=ANY

There is a FBSD port for acx100, which is broken for versions  6:
http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/ports/net/acx100/

but no FBSD port for acx111, though one can presumably start it from
http://dev.kewl.org/acx100+111/

Questions:

1. Any reason why acx driver exists on DragonFly but not on FBSD?

2. Is it possible and practical to port the dragonfly acx(4) driver
to FBSD?

3. What is easier - to port acx driver from DragonFly to FBSD, or
to develop a port for acx100+111?

4. Provided the acx100+111 FBSD port is available and working, what
is more efficient - using a kernel acx module or acx built from ports?

many thanks
anton

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Re: DNS /etc/namedb owner hell

2008-02-20 Thread Robert Huff
Ruben de Groot writes:

   I have the following problem with bind:
   
   it is configured to run as bind:bind and after every reboot of the system
   all files and directories under /etc/namedb become owned by root:wheel so
   bind is unable is unable to update it's zone files after dhcpd leases IP to
   any given client. How to fix either owner, or set somewhere that the owner
   of this folder, subfolder and files is my DNS server?
  
  Try setting named_chroot_autoupdate to NO in your rc.conf

Does this still work if you don't run chrooted?
To the OP: does this happen every reboot, or when you update the
system?  I used to have tha latter problem, and fixed it by adding

NO_BIND_ETC=   true# Do not install files to /etc/namedb

to /etc/make.conf.  Upsides: no permission mangling, and no
automatic file update.  Downside: no automatic file update, though
you can deal with this using mergeaster.


Robert Huff

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Re: port net/acx100 for usr5410 pcmcia wireless FBSD 6.3

2008-02-20 Thread Kemian Dang
Try ndis, it works for my broadcom wireless adapter.

Kemian

On 19/02/2008, Anton Shterenlikht [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I tried to contact the port maintainer, but haven't heard anything back.

 I'd like to use US Robotics usr5410 wireless pcmcia card on my FBSD 6.3
 laptop. I understand this card is (was?) supported by port net/acx100.
 However, the net/acx100/Makefile has:

  BROKEN= Does not compile on FreeBSD = 6.x

 In addition the port maintainer's website, dev.kewl.org, states that
 acx100 is obsolete, and was replaced by acx100+111. However, there
 is no FBSD port for acx100+111.

 Is anybody using net/acx100? On what version of FBSD?

 Is anybody using acx100+111? What is the best way to install it?

 Is anybody using usr5410? With what driver? And what version of FBSD?

 Any other advice on getting usr5410 working on FBSD 6.3?

 many thanks
 anton

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Re: Bad performance of 7.0 nfs client with Solaris nfs server

2008-02-20 Thread Eric Anderson

Claus Guttesen wrote:

we have a FreeBSD 7.0 NFS client (csup today, built world and kernel).
It mounts a Solaris 10 NFS share.
We have bad performance with 7.0 (3MB/s).
We have tried both UDP and TCP mounts, both sync and async.
This is our mount:

nest.xx.xx:/data/export/hosts/bsd7.xx.xx/ /mnt/nest.xx.xx nfs
noatime,async,-i,rw,-T,-3

Both our server (7.0 and Solaris 10) are Gigabit Ethernet, both are HP
Proliant DL360 i386 (NIC bge0):


I have a solaris 9 nfs-server (on sparc) with som TB on HDS attached
to it with two qlogic-hba's. These partitions are shared to our
webservers via nfs, according to my mrtg-graph I get approx. 8 MB/s at
peak. I can probably get more but the requirement is not there.

With four-way-servers and FreeBSD 6.2 I had a read- and write-size of
8192. I ended up with this size by copying to and from the nfs-server
until I didn't get nfs server not responding; is alive again
message. Then I upgraded to FreeBSD 7.0 in October 2007 on a new
eight-way-server I started to get not responding; alive again during
load. So I decreased rw-size to the current 2048.

When I decreased the size I also avoided another problem (by accident
:-) ). When uploading images I sometimes saw ImageMagick's convert
went into an (almost) infinite loop, comsuming 100 % cpu (on one core)
until killed. Reducing the rw-size eliminated this issue.

fstab-entry:

my.nfs.server:/archive   /archive  nfs
rw,nfsv3,-w=2048,-r=20480   0

I'm using udp-mounts, does not appear to change performance for my part.

HTH.



If FreeBSD is your NFS server, you should increase the number of nfsd 
threads to help with the not responding error.  I usually run one nfsd 
thread per active client.


Eric

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Re: what is the meaning of optimization changed from TIME to SPACE

2008-02-20 Thread Bill Moran
In response to ivan dimitrov [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 OK, but maybe this is not my case. I am using about 10% ...
 /dev/md0   3.6M318K3.0M 9%/storage/pub/www/ram
 
 But dmesg reports continuously:
 /storage/pub/www/ram: optimization changed from TIME to SPACE
 /storage/pub/www/ram: optimization changed from SPACE to TIME
 
 about 10 times per sec.
 
 so, how can i stop this optimization rock-and-roll?

You didn't mention that it was flipping back and forth before.

I expect that some program is creating files, then deleting them shortly
after, resulting in the partition filling up, switching to space opt,
then it's not full so it switches back to time opt.  However, unless
you look at the partition at exactly the right moment, you don't see
those files.  For example, was the optimization at space at the moment
you took that df?

You've got a 3.6M partition.  I could fill that up accidentally in less
than a second.  I stand by my original advice to add space.  Bump it
up to 16M or 32M and see if the problem goes away.

Alternately, if you're _really_ worried about what's taking up an
unexpected 3.0M of space, you could enable audit and track what
programs are creating files there.

 Bill Moran [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In response to Brian 
 :
 
  ivan dimitrov wrote:
   After upgrading from freebsd-5.5-R to 6.3-R, I get the following message 
   in dmesg:
  
   /storage/pub/www/ram: optimization changed from TIME to SPACE
  
   I use a ram disk via the md driver.
   Here is the line from my fstab file:
  
   md  /storage/pub/www/rammfs rw,-s4m 2   0
  
   Does this mean that there is some sort of error? ...and is there anything 
   that can be done, so that I don't get this message in dmesg?
  
   Any help will be greatly appreciated :)
 
 UFS normally optimizes file placement for performance.  Unfortunately,
 in order to do this it has to write files in such a way that it
 sometimes wastes some space.  When the partition gets close to full,
 FreeBSD automatically switches to space optimization which doesn't
 waste any space, but doesn't perform as well.
 
 The short answer is, This is happening because your partition is too
 close to full.  It's not an error, but you should clean up some files
 or add space.
 
 It also has nothing to do with the difference between 5.5 and 6.3.
 
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Re: what is the meaning of optimization changed from TIME to SPACE

2008-02-20 Thread ivan dimitrov
OK, but maybe this is not my case. I am using about 10% ...
/dev/md0   3.6M318K3.0M 9%/storage/pub/www/ram

But dmesg reports continuously:
/storage/pub/www/ram: optimization changed from TIME to SPACE
/storage/pub/www/ram: optimization changed from SPACE to TIME

about 10 times per sec.

so, how can i stop this optimization rock-and-roll?

Bill Moran [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In response to Brian 
:

 ivan dimitrov wrote:
  After upgrading from freebsd-5.5-R to 6.3-R, I get the following message in 
  dmesg:
 
  /storage/pub/www/ram: optimization changed from TIME to SPACE
 
  I use a ram disk via the md driver.
  Here is the line from my fstab file:
 
  md  /storage/pub/www/rammfs rw,-s4m 2   0
 
  Does this mean that there is some sort of error? ...and is there anything 
  that can be done, so that I don't get this message in dmesg?
 
  Any help will be greatly appreciated :)

UFS normally optimizes file placement for performance.  Unfortunately,
in order to do this it has to write files in such a way that it
sometimes wastes some space.  When the partition gets close to full,
FreeBSD automatically switches to space optimization which doesn't
waste any space, but doesn't perform as well.

The short answer is, This is happening because your partition is too
close to full.  It's not an error, but you should clean up some files
or add space.

It also has nothing to do with the difference between 5.5 and 6.3.

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Re: npviewer.bin.core

2008-02-20 Thread Alphons Fonz van Werven

Matthias Apitz wrote:


$ ls -l npviewer.bin.core
-rw---   1 guru  wheel   12320768 19 feb 15:09 npviewer.bin.core

[snip]

# find /usr -name npviewer.bin -print
/usr/local/lib/nspluginwrapper/i386/linux/npviewer.bin

Is it worth to file a bug report or just remove it by cron job?


I would first try to investigate a little more WHY it dumps core. Perhaps
you just have a symlink or permission wrong somewhere, are missing a
dependency or who knows what else could be causing this. Hell, it might even
be a known problem already. If you can't find the cause - and nobody here
can either - there's always time for a bug report.

But those are just my thoughts,

Alphons

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Re: Root User logged in at terminal

2008-02-20 Thread Dominic Fandrey

Grant Peel wrote:

Hi all,

I installed a new server this weekend and it appears I did not log out 
befor disconnection the keyboard and monitor.


Is the a way through ssh to force a logout of the root user?

-Grant


You can hijack the terminal using watch -W. After taking over a terminal, 
hit CTRL-C to provoke some output and remove any commands that might be left 
standing. Then you can simply logout.

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Root User logged in at terminal

2008-02-20 Thread Grant Peel

Hi all,

I installed a new server this weekend and it appears I did not log out befor 
disconnection the keyboard and monitor.


Is the a way through ssh to force a logout of the root user?

-Grant 


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Re: Root User logged in at terminal

2008-02-20 Thread Daniel Bye
On Wed, Feb 20, 2008 at 08:27:13AM -0500, Grant Peel wrote:
 Hi all,
 
 I installed a new server this weekend and it appears I did not log out 
 befor disconnection the keyboard and monitor.
 
 Is the a way through ssh to force a logout of the root user?

Sure. Find out the pid of the shell running on the tty, and kill it.

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Re: Root User logged in at terminal

2008-02-20 Thread Alphons Fonz van Werven

Grant Peel wrote:


Is the a way through ssh to force a logout of the root user?


Can't you login (over SSH) as a mortal user (must be in wheel), su to root
and kill the offending login session?

Alphons

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Upgrading from FreeBSD 6.2 to FreeBSD 7.0

2008-02-20 Thread Hansa
Hi,

On a test system, I'm trying to upgrade FreeBSD 6.2 to 7.0 using the
instructions from Ralf Engelschall.
http://people.freebsd.org/~rse/upgrade/freebsd-upgrade-6x-7x.txt
I'm stuck at compiling the new kernel.

Here are the steps I took:

 - install backward compatibility files localedata-5.4.tbz
compat6x-i386-6.x.xx.mm.tbz
from: 
ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-7-current/All
also tried upgrading with the files
from: 
ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-7.0-release/All
Same result however
 - install latest FreeBSD Upgrade Toolkit
http://people.freebsd.org/~rse/dist/freebsd-adm-1.2.2.tar.gz
 - upgrade /usr/src
$ cd /usr/src  make cleandir
reports an error if there is nothing to clean
$ cd /usr/adm  make update
runs just fine.
 - upgrade kernel configuration
I've added/checked if the options with  in rse's howto are in
/sys/i386/conf/GENERIC (or in my case 'hostname -s'
/sys/i386/conf/TESTRABIT)
I've removed/checked that the options with  are not in TESTRABIT
 - prepare the upgrade
$  mergemaster -p
 - build new system
$ cd /usr/adm  make world-build
runs without problems
$ make kernel-build
 PROBS 
Building kernel+modules (TESTRABIT)

--
 Kernel build for TESTRABIT started on Wed Feb 20 16:03:46 CET 2008
--
=== TESTRABIT
mkdir -p /usr/obj/usr/src/sys

--
 stage 1: configuring the kernel
--
cd /usr/src/sys/i386/conf;
PATH=/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/legacy/usr/sbin:/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/legacy/usr/bi
n:/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/legacy/usr/games:/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/sbin:/usr/o
bj/usr/src/tmp/usr/bin:/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/games:/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/
usr/bin  config  -d /usr/obj/usr/src/sys/TESTRABIT
/usr/src/sys/i386/conf/TESTRABIT
/usr/src/sys/i386/conf/TESTRABIT: unknown option IPSEC_ESP
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/src.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/src.
kernel build duration: 00:00:00
 STUCK 

My guess is that the ipsec (crypto?) source code is missing? Is this
correct? If so, where can I find it and where should I put it?

Best regards,

Hansa



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Re: DJ500 dead after = 16 years.

2008-02-20 Thread David Kelly
On Wed, Feb 20, 2008 at 12:02:25AM -0800, Gary Kline wrote:
 
   Nutshell, I'd like anyone's ideas/experiences with some of these 
   new HP/ or whateverbrand printers. I wouldn't *mind* if I
   could scan in text from a techy paper into HTML or PDF or text.
   But mostly, like 99.44%  plain black text.  My old deskjet used
   gs as a filter to print PostScript.  Do we have any such plugin
   support, or are printers still roll-your-own?  [FWIW, I can't
   seem to get CUPS working...  altho it maay be my misssing
   /dev/lpt0.]

I have been pleased with my purchase of a Brother HL-5250DN several years
ago. Was $250 at the time, usually can be found on sale now for under
$200. Refurbished HL-5240's under $100.

This is a 30 ppm (rated) laser with ethernet, USB, HPL-6 and Brother's
Postscript-3 clone. Also prints duplex. 3rd party toner refills are $20
for roughly 7,000 pages. Drum is rated at 25,000 pages. If it doesn't
last that long a new or refurbished printer is cheaper than a
replacement drum.

Have fond memories of old HP-4000N, HP-4050N, and HP-5000N printers but
nothing used was available as inexpensive as the Brother was. The
Brother is better suited for my uses as its very quick to warm up from
sleep, maybe as fast as my DJ-990.

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Re: Upgrading from FreeBSD 6.2 to FreeBSD 7.0

2008-02-20 Thread Oliver Fromme
Crossposting to -current and -questions is usually not a
good idea.  This question belongs to -questions only.

Hansa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On a test system, I'm trying to upgrade FreeBSD 6.2 to 7.0 using the
  instructions from Ralf Engelschall.
  http://people.freebsd.org/~rse/upgrade/freebsd-upgrade-6x-7x.txt
  I'm stuck at compiling the new kernel.
  [...]
  /usr/src/sys/i386/conf/TESTRABIT: unknown option IPSEC_ESP

The option IPSEC_ESP was removed when KAME was replaced
with the FAST_IPSEC implementation.

Please remove that line from your kernel config file.

Best regards
   Oliver

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Re: npviewer.bin.core

2008-02-20 Thread Robert Huff

Alphons \Fonz\ van Werven writes:

   -rw---   1 guru  wheel   12320768 19 feb 15:09 npviewer.bin.core
   
   Is it worth to file a bug report or just remove it by cron job?
  
  I would first try to investigate a little more WHY it dumps
  core. Perhaps you just have a symlink or permission wrong
  somewhere, are missing a dependency or who knows what else could
  be causing this. Hell, it might even be a known problem
  already. If you can't find the cause - and nobody here can either
  - there's always time for a bug report.

There are no PRs - open or otherwise - with npviewer.bin or
nsplugginwrapper.
I'm also having a issue, which may or may not be related.

huff@ ps -cjx | grep viewer
huff  7087  7077  7045  70450 S ??   47:42.51 seamonkey-bin
huff 39430  7087  7045  70450 Z ??0:04.23 npviewer.bin
huff 49304  7087  7045  70450 Z ??0:00.64 npviewer.bin
huff 71938  7087  7045  70450 Z ??0:03.01 npviewer.bin

Multiple instances, each consuming resources and slowing down
the browser.  Sometimes there are as any as 20 copies.  Killing then
doesn't always work, and sometimes crashes X or even the machine.


Robert Huff
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Re: Upgrading from FreeBSD 6.2 to FreeBSD 7.0

2008-02-20 Thread Mike Tancsa

At 10:10 AM 2/20/2008, Hansa wrote:

/usr/src/sys/i386/conf/TESTRABIT: unknown option IPSEC_ESP
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/src.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/src.
kernel build duration: 00:00:00
 STUCK 

My guess is that the ipsec (crypto?) source code is missing? Is this
correct? If so, where can I find it and where should I put it?


Hi,
The options for IPSEC are different in RELENG_7. The KAME 
implementation is no longer there as its just FAST_IPSEC.  So get rid 
of IPSEC_ESP and just have


 options IPSEC
 device crypto

in your kernel.

---Mike 


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mouse works on console, not in Xorg

2008-02-20 Thread Steve Franks
I thought my mouse was toast, until I ctrl-alt-F2'd back to a console,
and it works fine there.  I don't see this covered in the handbook.
I've got two other FreeBSD systems: one 6.3 and one 7.0-RC1, and with
both of those you plug the usb mouse in and 'it just works'.  I've
tried the new system with both no xorg.conf, as well as an xorg.conf
that points at /dev/sysmouse and one that points at /dev/ums0, and I'm
having no luck here.  My brand-new 1680x1050 monitor 'just works',
surprisingly!  I didn't even have to do the ModeLine in the handbook
until I made a new xorg.conf file.

Thanks,
Steve
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Re: port net/acx100 for usr5410 pcmcia wireless FBSD 6.3

2008-02-20 Thread Anton Shterenlikht
 On 19/02/2008, Anton Shterenlikht [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I tried to contact the port maintainer, but haven't heard anything back.
 
  I'd like to use US Robotics usr5410 wireless pcmcia card on my FBSD 6.3
  laptop. I understand this card is (was?) supported by port net/acx100.
  However, the net/acx100/Makefile has:
 
   BROKEN= Does not compile on FreeBSD = 6.x
 
  In addition the port maintainer's website, dev.kewl.org, states that
  acx100 is obsolete, and was replaced by acx100+111. However, there
  is no FBSD port for acx100+111.
 
  Is anybody using net/acx100? On what version of FBSD?
 
  Is anybody using acx100+111? What is the best way to install it?
 
  Is anybody using usr5410? With what driver? And what version of FBSD?
 
  Any other advice on getting usr5410 working on FBSD 6.3?

 On Wed, Feb 20, 2008 at 12:21:22PM +, Kemian Dang wrote:
 Try ndis, it works for my broadcom wireless adapter.

I added ndis to the kernel and built the kernel module using
http://www.linuxant.com/usr11gv40q.zip driver.

However, when I load the module:

# kldstat -vn usr*
Id Refs AddressSize Name
 21 0xc216c000 3d000usr11g_sys.ko
Contains modules:
Id Name
180 pci/usr11g_sys
181 cardbus/usr11g_sys
182 pccard/usr11g_sys
183 uhub/usr11g_sys
# 

I get errors. From dmesg:

cardbus1: Expecting link target, got 0xed
cardbus1: Resource not specified in CIS: id=10, size=2000
cardbus1: Resource not specified in CIS: id=14, size=2
ndis0: U.S. Robotics 802.11g Wireless Turbo Adapter mem 
0x8802-0x88021fff,0x8800-0x8801 irq 11 at device 0.0 on cardbus1
ndis0: NDIS API version: 5.1
ndis0: init handler failed
device_attach: ndis0 attach returned 6


What am I doing wrong?

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Re: FTPD and IExplore

2008-02-20 Thread Wojciech Puchar

that's it.

This answer leaves a lot to be desired. If you have something useful to add
please do, but otherwise leave it up to other people to answer such
questions.

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already added - it is not FreeBSD FTPD's fault. so what else? ask 
microsoft for more

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Re: DNS /etc/namedb owner hell

2008-02-20 Thread Deian Popov
Thank you both, you solved the problem!

On Wed, Feb 20, 2008 at 3:17 PM, Robert Huff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Ruben de Groot writes:

I have the following problem with bind:
   
it is configured to run as bind:bind and after every reboot of the
 system
all files and directories under /etc/namedb become owned by
 root:wheel so
bind is unable is unable to update it's zone files after dhcpd leases
 IP to
any given client. How to fix either owner, or set somewhere that the
 owner
of this folder, subfolder and files is my DNS server?
 
   Try setting named_chroot_autoupdate to NO in your rc.conf

 Does this still work if you don't run chrooted?
To the OP: does this happen every reboot, or when you update the
 system?  I used to have tha latter problem, and fixed it by adding

 NO_BIND_ETC=   true# Do not install files to /etc/namedb

to /etc/make.conf.  Upsides: no permission mangling, and no
 automatic file update.  Downside: no automatic file update, though
 you can deal with this using mergeaster.


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Re: Is my hard ware sufficient?

2008-02-20 Thread Jerry McAllister
On Wed, Feb 20, 2008 at 03:34:31AM -0800, Lone Wolf wrote:

 It is not bundled.  Almost nothing is bundled.
 But it is available in ports and installing it is one of the
 special options during a standard installtion.
 
 Please correct me if I'm wrong:
 GNOME (or KDE) in included in FreeBSD downloaded file but it isn't installed 
 by default, but it can be installed during installation process if I want to.
 If I'm wrong, does this mean that I have to connect to Internet during 
 FreeBSD installation?
 Thanks.

This depends on which ISO you use and your method of installation.
I normally just use the cd to load the installation programs - sysinstall - 
and download everything over the net during installation.

But, you can install from the stuff on the CD set and Gnome and KDE are
in that set as well as many other things.   

Note that ports are continuously updated, so the one you install
over the net could be newer than the one from the CD.

jerry



 
 Jerry McAllister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Feb 19, 2008 at 
 01:19:51AM -0800, Lone Wolf wrote:
 
  I'm not going to serve any one, I just want to take a small test drive 
  with FreeBSD .
  Regarding my graphic card, it is 32 MB, is it ok?
 
 I suppose it depends on the graphics card model, but probably.
 Check that hardware compatibility list.  In this case it would
 be compatibility with Xorg since that is the display/graphics system.
 
  Does FreeBSD come bundled with GNOME?
 
 It is not bundled.  Almost nothing is bundled.
 But it is available in ports and installing it is one of the
 special options during a standard installtion.
 
  Thanks demons!
 
 That is daemon, not demon.
 There is a big difference.
 
 jerry
 
  
  Olivier Nicole  wrote:  I'm thinking to install FreeBSD on my old PC.
   ---
   Processor: Intel Celeron 1.3 GH
   RAM: 192 MB
   ---
   Is my hard ware sufficient?
  
  Sufficient to do what?
  
  Until not so long ago, my DNS server was a PIII 550 MHz, with
  something like 120 MB RAM, serving about 150 clients.
  
  I changed the hardware mostly because I had bigger machines available.
  
  Olivier
  
  
  
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security of a new installation / steps to take

2008-02-20 Thread Zbigniew Szalbot
Dear all,

In a matter of weeks we will be moving our office server replacing
it with a dedicated server machine functioning at an ISP's location. I
have spoken to them and they use Fedora so they won't be able to help
me much (besides we're not really prepared to pay them for
administrative work). Obviously, I want to keep using FreeBSD so they
promised to set up a basic installation so that I can remotely connect
to the server, configure it, install userland, etc.

So far I have had FreeBSD systems only in office so I used my hardware
firewall (Dlink DFL 700) to block access to services on ports 22, etc.
Now, at the ISP I won't be able to do this so I will need to be a lot
more careful about security issues. I am planning to make a list of
steps I need to take to configure the OS to my liking and install
applications I need. However, I would really, really love to have some
advice from you re the basic steps.

For example, I guess I will need to make friends with pf firewall (I
did use it but not extensively due to the hardware router in place). I
will need to disallow direct (3306) access to mysql database (again pf
thing?) and the like.

In any case, many thanks for your hints, tips, links to get started (I
actually plan to use an old box in office to test-install everything
and only then do the same remotely). I have been using FreeBSD for 1,5
year but I know how little I know so I'm ready to learn.

Thanks for FreeBSD and your help!

-- 
Zbigniew Szalbot
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PF connection pool + squid 3 oddity

2008-02-20 Thread Deian Popov
Hello,

I have very odd problem with pf connection pool(2 ISPs) and squid 3. Just to
mention, I support 3 other networks without connection pool. All of them
work using squid and pf but do not use connection pool. If I setup my
browser to use proxy (e.g. gateway port 3128), all traffic passes through
squid. If I use rdr rule (as I should) I am unable to browse web. My
question is what is the difference between the request from browser
instructed to use proxy, and the rdr rule of pf. Why are my requests dying?
I will not attach squid.conf since I have changed just the allowed network
and have added transparent.Here is my sample pf.conf:

lan_net = 192.168.0.0/24
int_if  = rl0
ext_if1 = dc0
ext_if2 = rl1
ext_gw1 = X1
ext_gw2 = X2
local_host = 127.0.0.1

# define ports
ports_in = {9000}
ports_out = {21, 25, 53, 80, 110, 443, 1863, 1194, 5190, 5222, 9000}

# define allowed hosts
table allowed persist file /etc/allowed

# skip l0
set skip on lo0

# default block policy
set block-policy drop

# normalize packets
scrub in all fragment reassemble

# squid it
#rdr on $int_if inet proto tcp to port 80 - $local_host port 3128

#  nat outgoing connections on each internet interface
# nat on $ext_if1 from $lan_net to any - ($ext_if1)
# nat on $ext_if2 from $lan_net to any - ($ext_if2)
nat on $ext_if1 from allowed to any - ($ext_if1)
nat on $ext_if2 from allowed to any - ($ext_if2)

# spoof protection
antispoof quick for {$int_if, $ext_if1, $ext_if2}

#  default deny
block in log from any to any
block out log from any to any

#  pass all outgoing packets on internal interface
pass out on $int_if from any to $lan_net

#  pass in quick any packets destined for the gateway itself
pass in quick on $int_if from $lan_net to $int_if
pass out quick on $int_if from $int_if to $lan_net

#  load balance outgoing tcp traffic from internal network.
pass in on $int_if route-to \
{ ($ext_if1 $ext_gw1), ($ext_if2 $ext_gw2) } round-robin \
proto tcp from $lan_net to any flags S/SA modulate state

#  load balance outgoing udp and icmp traffic from internal network
pass in on $int_if route-to \
{ ($ext_if1 $ext_gw1), ($ext_if2 $ext_gw2) } round-robin \
proto { udp, icmp } from $lan_net to any keep state

# general pass in rules for external interfaces
pass in on $ext_if1 proto tcp from any to $ext_if1 port $ports_in
pass in on $ext_if2 proto tcp from any to $ext_if2 port $ports_in

#  general pass out rules for external interfaces
pass out on $ext_if1 proto tcp from any to any port $ports_out flags S/SA
modulate state
pass out on $ext_if1 proto udp from any to any port $ports_out keep state
pass out on $ext_if1 proto icmp from any to any keep state

pass out on $ext_if2 proto tcp from any to any port $ports_out flags S/SA
modulate state
pass out on $ext_if2 proto udp from any to any port $ports_out keep state
pass out on $ext_if2 proto icmp from any to any keep state

#  route packets from any IPs on $ext_if1 to $ext_gw1 and the same for
#  $ext_if2 and $ext_gw2
pass out on $ext_if1 route-to ($ext_if2 $ext_gw2) from $ext_if2 to any
pass out on $ext_if2 route-to ($ext_if1 $ext_gw1) from $ext_if1 to any

Thanks in advance.
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Re: security of a new installation / steps to take

2008-02-20 Thread Schiz0
On Feb 20, 2008 11:02 AM, Zbigniew Szalbot [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Dear all,

 In a matter of weeks we will be moving our office server replacing
 it with a dedicated server machine functioning at an ISP's location. I
 have spoken to them and they use Fedora so they won't be able to help
 me much (besides we're not really prepared to pay them for
 administrative work). Obviously, I want to keep using FreeBSD so they
 promised to set up a basic installation so that I can remotely connect
 to the server, configure it, install userland, etc.

 So far I have had FreeBSD systems only in office so I used my hardware
 firewall (Dlink DFL 700) to block access to services on ports 22, etc.
 Now, at the ISP I won't be able to do this so I will need to be a lot
 more careful about security issues. I am planning to make a list of
 steps I need to take to configure the OS to my liking and install
 applications I need. However, I would really, really love to have some
 advice from you re the basic steps.

 For example, I guess I will need to make friends with pf firewall (I
 did use it but not extensively due to the hardware router in place). I
 will need to disallow direct (3306) access to mysql database (again pf
 thing?) and the like.

 In any case, many thanks for your hints, tips, links to get started (I
 actually plan to use an old box in office to test-install everything
 and only then do the same remotely). I have been using FreeBSD for 1,5
 year but I know how little I know so I'm ready to learn.

 Thanks for FreeBSD and your help!

 --
 Zbigniew Szalbot

For PF, see:
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/firewalls-pf.html
and
http://www.openbsd.org/faq/pf/
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Re: mouse works on console, not in Xorg

2008-02-20 Thread Dominic Fandrey

Steve Franks wrote:

I thought my mouse was toast, until I ctrl-alt-F2'd back to a console,
and it works fine there.  I don't see this covered in the handbook.
I've got two other FreeBSD systems: one 6.3 and one 7.0-RC1, and with
both of those you plug the usb mouse in and 'it just works'.  I've
tried the new system with both no xorg.conf, as well as an xorg.conf
that points at /dev/sysmouse and one that points at /dev/ums0, and I'm
having no luck here.  My brand-new 1680x1050 monitor 'just works',
surprisingly!  I didn't even have to do the ModeLine in the handbook
until I made a new xorg.conf file.


If it works on the console, /dev/sysmouse aught to be the right one. Please 
post the InputDevice section for your mouse.

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Re: Is my hard ware sufficient?

2008-02-20 Thread arthur
 I normally just use the cd to load the installation programs -
sysinstall -
 and download everything over the net during installation.

I have v6.2 cd but I am going to try 7.0, but I don't mind if the KDE/app is
latest.

So do you think I can:

1. boot with 6.2CD, run sysinstall, then install v7.0 over the network

2. install kde or other app to v7.0 installation from a 6.2 CD

Thanks.

Arthur

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Re: Is my hard ware sufficient?

2008-02-20 Thread Jerry McAllister
On Wed, Feb 20, 2008 at 11:14:52AM -0500, arthur wrote:

  I normally just use the cd to load the installation programs -
 sysinstall -
  and download everything over the net during installation.
 
 I have v6.2 cd but I am going to try 7.0, but I don't mind if the KDE/app is
 latest.
 
 So do you think I can:
 
 1. boot with 6.2CD, run sysinstall, then install v7.0 over the network
 
 2. install kde or other app to v7.0 installation from a 6.2 CD

No.   You really want to download the 7.0 ISO and burn it 
and install the applications intended for that level.   
You could make it work, but you don't want to.

jerry

 
 Thanks.
 
 Arthur
 
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Re: Root User logged in at terminal

2008-02-20 Thread Wojciech Puchar

yes

 ps axt|grep bash

(or sh or csh or what shell you use as root)


and find what is on local terminal (these beginning with v)

and then

kill -HUP process number


On Wed, 20 Feb 2008, Grant Peel wrote:


Hi all,

I installed a new server this weekend and it appears I did not log out befor 
disconnection the keyboard and monitor.


Is the a way through ssh to force a logout of the root user?

-Grant 
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Re: security of a new installation / steps to take

2008-02-20 Thread Bill Moran
On Wed, 20 Feb 2008 17:02:22 +0100
Zbigniew Szalbot [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 In a matter of weeks we will be moving our office server replacing
 it with a dedicated server machine functioning at an ISP's location. I
 have spoken to them and they use Fedora so they won't be able to help
 me much (besides we're not really prepared to pay them for
 administrative work). Obviously, I want to keep using FreeBSD so they
 promised to set up a basic installation so that I can remotely connect
 to the server, configure it, install userland, etc.
 
 So far I have had FreeBSD systems only in office so I used my hardware
 firewall (Dlink DFL 700) to block access to services on ports 22, etc.
 Now, at the ISP I won't be able to do this so I will need to be a lot
 more careful about security issues. I am planning to make a list of
 steps I need to take to configure the OS to my liking and install
 applications I need. However, I would really, really love to have some
 advice from you re the basic steps.
 
 For example, I guess I will need to make friends with pf firewall (I
 did use it but not extensively due to the hardware router in place). I
 will need to disallow direct (3306) access to mysql database (again pf
 thing?) and the like.

Build a deny by default firewall.  There are lots of advantages to it.
See my explanation of my personal server:
http://www.potentialtech.com/cms/node/16

Don't apply that technique blindly, the policy I use there is not
appropriate for everyone.  Rather, read through that to understand more
about how to create a deny by default ruleset and adjust the details to
meet your needs.

Another thing that's extremely powerful is integrity monitoring using
something like Tripwire or Samhain.

If you're building a firewall remotely, create a cron job that disables
the firewall every 30 minutes.  (i.e. pfctl -d).  Then, if you tweak
your firewall rules in such a way that you lock yourself out, you just
need to wait 30 minutes before you can get back in.  Once you're sure
your rules are working as you want, disable the cron job.

Always leave yourself a back door (see the whitelist rule I have in the
link above) so you don't accidentally get locked out.  If your hosting
provider can give you a serial console into the machine, that's the
best option, but it's getting less commonly available these days.

And don't be afraid to ask specific questions if you get stuck on details
while you're setting it up.

 In any case, many thanks for your hints, tips, links to get started (I
 actually plan to use an old box in office to test-install everything
 and only then do the same remotely). I have been using FreeBSD for 1,5
 year but I know how little I know so I'm ready to learn.
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Re: port net/acx100 for usr5410 pcmcia wireless FBSD 6.3

2008-02-20 Thread Kemian Dang
Try add it to the /boot/loader.conf and restart to see whether it works.
My ndis0 can not get response from ifconfig ndis0 scan, but I can
give it the ssid manually and make it work.

kemian

On 20/02/2008, Anton Shterenlikht [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On 19/02/2008, Anton Shterenlikht [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   I tried to contact the port maintainer, but haven't heard anything back.
  
   I'd like to use US Robotics usr5410 wireless pcmcia card on my FBSD 6.3
   laptop. I understand this card is (was?) supported by port net/acx100.
   However, the net/acx100/Makefile has:
  
BROKEN= Does not compile on FreeBSD = 6.x
  
   In addition the port maintainer's website, dev.kewl.org, states that
   acx100 is obsolete, and was replaced by acx100+111. However, there
   is no FBSD port for acx100+111.
  
   Is anybody using net/acx100? On what version of FBSD?
  
   Is anybody using acx100+111? What is the best way to install it?
  
   Is anybody using usr5410? With what driver? And what version of FBSD?
  
   Any other advice on getting usr5410 working on FBSD 6.3?
 
  On Wed, Feb 20, 2008 at 12:21:22PM +, Kemian Dang wrote:
  Try ndis, it works for my broadcom wireless adapter.

 I added ndis to the kernel and built the kernel module using
 http://www.linuxant.com/usr11gv40q.zip driver.

 However, when I load the module:

 # kldstat -vn usr*
 Id Refs AddressSize Name
  21 0xc216c000 3d000usr11g_sys.ko
 Contains modules:
 Id Name
 180 pci/usr11g_sys
 181 cardbus/usr11g_sys
 182 pccard/usr11g_sys
 183 uhub/usr11g_sys
 #

 I get errors. From dmesg:

 cardbus1: Expecting link target, got 0xed
 cardbus1: Resource not specified in CIS: id=10, size=2000
 cardbus1: Resource not specified in CIS: id=14, size=2
 ndis0: U.S. Robotics 802.11g Wireless Turbo Adapter mem 
 0x8802-0x88021fff,0x8800-0x8801 irq 11 at device 0.0 on cardbus1
 ndis0: NDIS API version: 5.1
 ndis0: init handler failed
 device_attach: ndis0 attach returned 6


 What am I doing wrong?

 --
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 Room 2.6, Queen's Building
 Mech Eng Dept
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 University Walk, Bristol BS8 1TR, UK
 Tel: +44 (0)117 928 8233
 Fax: +44 (0)117 929 4423

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Re: Is my hard ware sufficient?

2008-02-20 Thread arthur
Got it. Looks I will go with the floppy boot (don't want burn too many CD's,
and burning CDRW is slower than boot from floppy).

Thank you for the quick response.

Arthur
- Original Message - 
From: Jerry McAllister [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: arthur [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: Jerry McAllister [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Lone Wolf [EMAIL PROTECTED];
freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2008 11:13 AM
Subject: Re: Is my hard ware sufficient?


 On Wed, Feb 20, 2008 at 11:14:52AM -0500, arthur wrote:

   I normally just use the cd to load the installation programs -
  sysinstall -
   and download everything over the net during installation.
 
  I have v6.2 cd but I am going to try 7.0, but I don't mind if the
KDE/app is
  latest.
 
  So do you think I can:
 
  1. boot with 6.2CD, run sysinstall, then install v7.0 over the network
 
  2. install kde or other app to v7.0 installation from a 6.2 CD

 No.   You really want to download the 7.0 ISO and burn it
 and install the applications intended for that level.
 You could make it work, but you don't want to.

 jerry

 
  Thanks.
 
  Arthur
 

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Re: Computers that us FreeBSD. HELP!!

2008-02-20 Thread Jerry McAllister
On Tue, Feb 19, 2008 at 09:38:12AM -0700, Ryan Jenkins wrote:

 Jerry,
 
 The function of the machines we are looking for is a Tower and an All-in-One
 computer that will run a tracking software and only tracking software.  The
 software is based off the FreeBSD operating system.  The software is a
 general program and doesn't really have any fancy to it.  For instance a
 customer uses an i-Button to log into a machine and from there the software
 tracks the customers time and allocates promotion points to the Customer
 based on time spend on the machines.  
 
 I have attached a sheet to this email that shows the basic components of the
 current systems we are using right now.  The Software Programmers have told
 me that this program will run on a machine with components from at least 8
 years ago, so the system is fancy.  
 
 The peripherals that are connected to these systems are POS Thermal Printer,
 i-Button Reader, 15 ELo Touch Screen Monitor, Simple Laser Printer and a
 Keyboard with a mouse if needed.   

First of all, always keep the list in the reply.  Don't just
continue asking one person or responder, unless you and they have
some side thing to discuss and agree to take it off list.  This
is both the polite thing and has a very big practical aspect.
The person responding to one part of the question, may not be
the one who can respond to the rest of it.  You want the whole
list to see and be able to respond.   Also, the list is archived
in a number of places and if a solution is posted, it can assist
persons in the future who can search one of the archives.

Second, I don't know anything about the applications you are
interested in running.   If they run under FreeBSD now, then they
will run on a new machine as long as it has the needed connectors
perripherals and drivers.Almost any of the machines that are
currently made can be configured with most peripherals and connectors.

Since you want a tower, then just look at the vendors listed in that
great URL Ted posted and pick an appropriately configured tower model.
Any of them will work.  Just get enough memory and disk and 
components to suit your applications.

jerry


 
 
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   C:  406 208-8193
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 -Original Message-
 From: Jerry McAllister [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2008 8:30 AM
 To: Ted Mittelstaedt
 Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
 Subject: Re: Computers that us FreeBSD. HELP!!!
 
 On Mon, Feb 18, 2008 at 11:19:57PM -0800, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:
 
  
  
   -Original Message-
   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Ryan 
   Jenkins
   Sent: Monday, February 18, 2008 4:20 PM
   To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
   Subject: Computers that us FreeBSD. HELP!!!
   Importance: Low
  
  
   Hello,
  
   I currently have a Computer System that is based off the FreeBSD 
   Operating System and I am trying to find a new supplier of hardware.  
   Right now I am having a hard time finding a Computer Manufacture 
   that can make a system that uses FreeBSD.
  
  Hi Ryan,
  
Please go here:
  
  http://www.freebsd.org/commercial/hardware.html
  
Several of the hardware vendors on this list can supply you with 
  ready-to-run FreeBSD workstations and servers, loaded to your 
  specifications.
 
 Very good link.   Covers all the ones I know of and a lot more.
 
 jerry
 
  
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RE: Computers that us FreeBSD. HELP!!

2008-02-20 Thread Ryan Jenkins
Jerry,

The first section you have below.  I am a little confused because I am not
sure what you refer to?  In my emails to you I have just done Reply's
instead of Reply to All, but I think that is what you may be talking about.


Where are you located, I see your email is MSU.edu, what University are you
with?
 


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From: Jerry McAllister [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2008 10:12 AM
To: Ryan Jenkins
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Computers that us FreeBSD. HELP!!

On Tue, Feb 19, 2008 at 09:38:12AM -0700, Ryan Jenkins wrote:

 Jerry,
 
 The function of the machines we are looking for is a Tower and an 
 All-in-One computer that will run a tracking software and only 
 tracking software.  The software is based off the FreeBSD operating 
 system.  The software is a general program and doesn't really have any 
 fancy to it.  For instance a customer uses an i-Button to log into a 
 machine and from there the software tracks the customers time and 
 allocates promotion points to the Customer based on time spend on the
machines.
 
 I have attached a sheet to this email that shows the basic components 
 of the current systems we are using right now.  The Software 
 Programmers have told me that this program will run on a machine with 
 components from at least 8 years ago, so the system is fancy.
 
 The peripherals that are connected to these systems are POS Thermal 
 Printer, i-Button Reader, 15 ELo Touch Screen Monitor, Simple Laser
Printer and a
 Keyboard with a mouse if needed.   

First of all, always keep the list in the reply.  Don't just continue asking
one person or responder, unless you and they have some side thing to discuss
and agree to take it off list.  This is both the polite thing and has a very
big practical aspect.
The person responding to one part of the question, may not be the one who
can respond to the rest of it.  You want the whole
list to see and be able to respond.   Also, the list is archived
in a number of places and if a solution is posted, it can assist persons in
the future who can search one of the archives.

Second, I don't know anything about the applications you are
interested in running.   If they run under FreeBSD now, then they
will run on a new machine as long as it has the needed connectors
perripherals and drivers.Almost any of the machines that are
currently made can be configured with most peripherals and connectors.

Since you want a tower, then just look at the vendors listed in that great
URL Ted posted and pick an appropriately configured tower model.
Any of them will work.  Just get enough memory and disk and components to
suit your applications.

jerry


 
 
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 Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2008 8:30 AM
 To: Ted Mittelstaedt
 Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
 Subject: Re: Computers that us FreeBSD. HELP!!!
 
 On Mon, Feb 18, 2008 at 11:19:57PM -0800, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:
 
  
  
   -Original Message-
   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Ryan 
   Jenkins
   Sent: Monday, February 18, 2008 4:20 PM
   To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
   

Re: security of a new installation / steps to take

2008-02-20 Thread Zbigniew Szalbot
Hello,

2008/2/20, Matthew Seaman [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  Make sure you track [EMAIL PROTECTED] and apply any system patches
  in a timely manner.  Also make full use of portaudit(1) and generally ensure
  that you are running up to date versions of any ported software.

Thaaanks! Ah... this brings me to one more question. I love 6.3 but
should I wait to install 7.0? I mean I'd hate having to update a few
months after the server is up and running. Especially, that any
updates will be remotely handled (fortunately the ISP promises to help
if need be - they are excellent and very responsive in this respect).

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Re: security of a new installation / steps to take

2008-02-20 Thread Matthew Seaman
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Hash: SHA256

Zbigniew Szalbot wrote:

 So far I have had FreeBSD systems only in office so I used my hardware
 firewall (Dlink DFL 700) to block access to services on ports 22, etc.
 Now, at the ISP I won't be able to do this so I will need to be a lot
 more careful about security issues. I am planning to make a list of
 steps I need to take to configure the OS to my liking and install
 applications I need. However, I would really, really love to have some
 advice from you re the basic steps.

The important mantra to remember when securing a machine that is exposed
to the internet is:

What does not listen on the network cannot be used to compromise you.

In practice, this means run sockstat and look for all the processes
that are listening for connections on your external network interfaces.

If you don't need it, then don't run it.

If you don't need external access to it, then bind it to the loopback
interface[1] or use it via a Unix domain socket (eg. 'skip-networking' in
MySQL configuration)

If you do need it, then strongly prefer encrypted versions of network
protocols: IMAPS rather than IMAP, HTTPS instead of HTTP.  This is
particularly important if people are using password based authentication
- -- otherwise you'ld be transmitting those passwords over the net in plain,
where they are vulnerable to snooping.

Ensure that any software that does listen on the network runs as an
unprivileged UID.  Ensure that the login accounts used for such daemons do
not have real shells (/usr/sbin/nologin is a good choice) and preferably
either have a non-existent home directory, or a home directory that the 
process does not own and cannot write to.  The current working directory
of the process (frequently /, but you can use 'fstat -p pid' and look
for the 'wd' entry to find this) should similarly be unwritable by
the process.  If the process can run chrooted or jailed then it's a good
idea to make it so.

Be very wary of many web based applications, particularly those written
in PHP.  Sad to say, but many web developers just don't have a clue about
security and commit some enormous howlers.  They also love writing web-
accessible configuration scripts, which you should take care to disable by
changing filesystem permissions once you've done the configuring parts
and also block or severely restrict access to by your webserver configuration.
If anyone proposes running any PHP code that requires you to set 
'register_globals'
to 'on' in php.ini; well, suffice it to say, no sensible jury would
convict should that person come to an ... unfortunate ... end.

Make sure you track [EMAIL PROTECTED] and apply any system patches
in a timely manner.  Also make full use of portaudit(1) and generally ensure
that you are running up to date versions of any ported software.

If you can do all the above effectively, then your machine should be pretty
secure as is, even without running any severe filtering through the built in
firewalls.

Cheers,

Matthew

[1] People that understand the implications of the weak routing model
as commonly seen in Unix servers (and certainly those that cannot control
access to the same layer-2 network their server is on) will want to protect
the loopback against spoofing attacks.  The following 3-line pf.conf
will do the trick:

scrub in
pass all
antispoof log quick for lo0

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  Flat 3
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Re: diskLabelCommit fails within a sysinstall script?

2008-02-20 Thread Jeff Gold
On Tue, Feb 19, 2008 at 5:33 PM, Jerry McAllister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Just to be clear; I am not suggesting deleting that 'c' partition.

Thanks for the warning.  I never manually delete the ad0s1c partition,
but I'm using Qemu so I do usually rebuild the underlying image to
clear previous state.  That doesn't make things work.  (I also tried
*not* doing so, but the results aren't any different.)  How would I
check what the fstype of a bsdlabel partition is?

Something I've just noticed is that even invoking sysinstall
interactively doesn't change  the outcome.  I believe this means the
FreeSBIE environment I've got set up is bad in some way.  I don't
understand why sysinstall would care but apparently it does.  Does
anyone else use mediaSetUFS or equivalent for installation?

   Jeff
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Re: diskLabelCommit fails within a sysinstall script?

2008-02-20 Thread Jerry McAllister
On Wed, Feb 20, 2008 at 12:17:49PM -0500, Jeff Gold wrote:

 On Tue, Feb 19, 2008 at 5:33 PM, Jerry McAllister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Just to be clear; I am not suggesting deleting that 'c' partition.
 
 Thanks for the warning.  I never manually delete the ad0s1c partition,
 but I'm using Qemu so I do usually rebuild the underlying image to
 clear previous state.  That doesn't make things work.  (I also tried
 *not* doing so, but the results aren't any different.)  How would I
 check what the fstype of a bsdlabel partition is?
 
 Something I've just noticed is that even invoking sysinstall
 interactively doesn't change  the outcome.  I believe this means the
 FreeSBIE environment I've got set up is bad in some way.  I don't
 understand why sysinstall would care but apparently it does.  Does
 anyone else use mediaSetUFS or equivalent for installation?

You are beyond my experience here.   
And I have never tried FreeSBIE [yet].

jerry

 
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Getting FreeBSD 5.2.1

2008-02-20 Thread Karthick Jayaraman

Hello,

I would like to get the FreeBSD 5.2.1 iso image for PowerPC. Please let 
me know where I can get them.


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Re: security of a new installation / steps to take

2008-02-20 Thread Jerry McAllister
On Wed, Feb 20, 2008 at 05:22:02PM +, Matthew Seaman wrote:


This is a very nice summary.
I will steal it and post it on the wall in our cube-maze hallway.
Thanks,

jerry



 -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
 Hash: SHA256
 
 Zbigniew Szalbot wrote:
 
  So far I have had FreeBSD systems only in office so I used my hardware
  firewall (Dlink DFL 700) to block access to services on ports 22, etc.
  Now, at the ISP I won't be able to do this so I will need to be a lot
  more careful about security issues. I am planning to make a list of
  steps I need to take to configure the OS to my liking and install
  applications I need. However, I would really, really love to have some
  advice from you re the basic steps.
 
 The important mantra to remember when securing a machine that is exposed
 to the internet is:
 
 What does not listen on the network cannot be used to compromise you.
 
 In practice, this means run sockstat and look for all the processes
 that are listening for connections on your external network interfaces.
 
 If you don't need it, then don't run it.
 
 If you don't need external access to it, then bind it to the loopback
 interface[1] or use it via a Unix domain socket (eg. 'skip-networking' in
 MySQL configuration)
 
 If you do need it, then strongly prefer encrypted versions of network
 protocols: IMAPS rather than IMAP, HTTPS instead of HTTP.  This is
 particularly important if people are using password based authentication
 - -- otherwise you'ld be transmitting those passwords over the net in plain,
 where they are vulnerable to snooping.
 
 Ensure that any software that does listen on the network runs as an
 unprivileged UID.  Ensure that the login accounts used for such daemons do
 not have real shells (/usr/sbin/nologin is a good choice) and preferably
 either have a non-existent home directory, or a home directory that the 
 process does not own and cannot write to.  The current working directory
 of the process (frequently /, but you can use 'fstat -p pid' and look
 for the 'wd' entry to find this) should similarly be unwritable by
 the process.  If the process can run chrooted or jailed then it's a good
 idea to make it so.
 
 Be very wary of many web based applications, particularly those written
 in PHP.  Sad to say, but many web developers just don't have a clue about
 security and commit some enormous howlers.  They also love writing web-
 accessible configuration scripts, which you should take care to disable by
 changing filesystem permissions once you've done the configuring parts
 and also block or severely restrict access to by your webserver configuration.
 If anyone proposes running any PHP code that requires you to set 
 'register_globals'
 to 'on' in php.ini; well, suffice it to say, no sensible jury would
 convict should that person come to an ... unfortunate ... end.
 
 Make sure you track [EMAIL PROTECTED] and apply any system patches
 in a timely manner.  Also make full use of portaudit(1) and generally ensure
 that you are running up to date versions of any ported software.
 
 If you can do all the above effectively, then your machine should be pretty
 secure as is, even without running any severe filtering through the built in
 firewalls.
 
   Cheers,
 
   Matthew
 
 [1] People that understand the implications of the weak routing model
 as commonly seen in Unix servers (and certainly those that cannot control
 access to the same layer-2 network their server is on) will want to protect
 the loopback against spoofing attacks.  The following 3-line pf.conf
 will do the trick:
 
 scrub in
 pass all
 antispoof log quick for lo0
 
 - -- 
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   Flat 3
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   Kent, CT11 9PW
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Re: security of a new installation / steps to take

2008-02-20 Thread Matthew Seaman
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Zbigniew Szalbot wrote:
 Hello,
 
 2008/2/20, Matthew Seaman [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  Make sure you track [EMAIL PROTECTED] and apply any system patches
  in a timely manner.  Also make full use of portaudit(1) and generally ensure
  that you are running up to date versions of any ported software.
 
 Thaaanks! Ah... this brings me to one more question. I love 6.3 but
 should I wait to install 7.0? I mean I'd hate having to update a few
 months after the server is up and running. Especially, that any
 updates will be remotely handled (fortunately the ISP promises to help
 if need be - they are excellent and very responsive in this respect).

Well, the 7.0 release candidates available now seem to run very stably
wherever I've tried them.  The make a big difference to performance,
especially if you're running highly contended, multi-threaded applications.

On the other hand, I've done a number of remote 6.x - 7.0 upgrades
without any huge difficulty.  You run a risk of thinks screwing up if
your 7.0 kernel doesn't boot properly, for which you'ld need remote
hands to get you unstuck.  Also, you /will/ need to recompile everything
you've installed on the machine -- applications compiled under 6.x 
will run just fine so long as you don't do the 'delete-old-libs'
step of the upgrade procedure too soon, and you can install the 
compat6x libs to survive even that.  However having a lot of 6.x
software installed will make it exceeding difficult to maintain your
ports, plus the new compiler in 7.0 can get you some useful performance
enhancements.  That mega-recompilation step does tend to lead to some
non-neglible periods of service downtime, but apart from the time
consumption it's pretty routine stuff.

Cheers,

Matthew

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Re: Ports question

2008-02-20 Thread Erik Cederstrand

James Harrison wrote:

On Wed, 2008-02-20 at 12:02 -0600, Darryl Hoar wrote:

Greetings,
I am looking to install a CMS system (something like postnuke) and want to
have a blog component.

Anybody have any recommendations ?  If it is in the ports, it would be even
better.

thanks,
Darryl


I've been using git  a fair bit; it's fast as all hell. It's what the
linux kernel guys use, though I'm considering moving over to bazaar
because it archives more metadata.
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bazaar_(software)

The BSDs traditionally use CVS, so at the very least you know that's
good over long term for a lot of files.


Uhh, CMS != CVS.

The OP needs to give more information. What are the requirements? Is it 
just a blog and a couple of static pages, and very few users? Go with 
Wordpress. If you're building a community site or a company site with 
lots of pages, customers. editors etc? Drupal is great for that. 
$100.000 government site with customizations galore? Use Plone.


All three are in the ports tree.

Erik
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Re: diskLabelCommit fails within a sysinstall script?

2008-02-20 Thread Brian A. Seklecki

On Tue, 2008-02-19 at 16:32 -0500, Jerry McAllister wrote:
 I don't know about all you ask, but the 'c' partition should always
 be there and be set to identify the whole slice eg start at 0 and
 the size be the size of the slice.   The system uses it to identify

its a damn shame that this is still the case.  defeats / undermines the
whole purpose of /dev/[as][d##][s#][a-z]

/dev/[as][d##][s#] alone can represent entire BIOS partitions
/dev/[as][d##] alone can represent entire disk

Not sure why we still need a 'c' slice for legacy ?!

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Re: security of a new installation / steps to take

2008-02-20 Thread Paul Schmehl
--On Wednesday, February 20, 2008 17:22:02 + Matthew Seaman 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



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Hash: SHA256

Zbigniew Szalbot wrote:


So far I have had FreeBSD systems only in office so I used my hardware
firewall (Dlink DFL 700) to block access to services on ports 22, etc.
Now, at the ISP I won't be able to do this so I will need to be a lot
more careful about security issues. I am planning to make a list of
steps I need to take to configure the OS to my liking and install
applications I need. However, I would really, really love to have some
advice from you re the basic steps.


The important mantra to remember when securing a machine that is exposed
to the internet is:

What does not listen on the network cannot be used to compromise you.

In practice, this means run sockstat and look for all the processes
that are listening for connections on your external network interfaces.

If you don't need it, then don't run it.



What an outstanding answer.  Matthew has covered all the correct bases.  I can 
only add one further suggestion.  Consider using /etc/hosts.allow to protect 
daemons that must listen on ports to restrict access even further.


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Re: Ports question

2008-02-20 Thread James Harrison
On Wed, 2008-02-20 at 12:02 -0600, Darryl Hoar wrote:
 Greetings,
 I am looking to install a CMS system (something like postnuke) and want to
 have a blog component.
 
 Anybody have any recommendations ?  If it is in the ports, it would be even
 better.
 
 thanks,
 Darryl

I've been using git  a fair bit; it's fast as all hell. It's what the
linux kernel guys use, though I'm considering moving over to bazaar
because it archives more metadata.
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bazaar_(software)

The BSDs traditionally use CVS, so at the very least you know that's
good over long term for a lot of files.


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Ports question

2008-02-20 Thread Darryl Hoar
Greetings,
I am looking to install a CMS system (something like postnuke) and want to
have a blog component.

Anybody have any recommendations ?  If it is in the ports, it would be even
better.

thanks,
Darryl
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Re: Shutdown anomaly

2008-02-20 Thread Dominic Fandrey

Robert Huff wrote:

Jonathan Chen writes:

  I am seeing the following messages, which appear to indicate a memory 
  overwrite:

  Waiting (max 60 seconds) for system processs 'vnlru' to stop...done
  Waiting (max 60 seconds) for system processs 'bufdaemon' to stop...done
  a
   iStyinncgi n(gm adxi s6k0s ,s evcnoonddess)  rfeomra isnyisntge.m. .pr0o 
  cess 'syncer' to stop...0 0 done

  All buffers synced.
  Uptime: 8m9s
 
 It's an interleaved buffer messages on SMP systems. The problem is

 known, but I haven't heard of a proposed solution yet.


There is no fix.
The workaround is to increase the size of the kernel printf()
buffer.  I don't remember how you do that ... but this is not a new
issue - chech the archives for details.


I would like to propose a fix. Care to test it?

Just apply this patch and add the following line to your /etc/rc.conf file.
shutdown_clean_enable=YES



--- rc.shutdown 2008-02-20 19:28:45.0 +0100
+++ /etc/rc.shutdown2008-02-20 19:59:03.0 +0100
@@ -43,10 +43,21 @@
 PATH=/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/usr/local/sbin
 export HOME PATH

+# The next three lines belong into /etc/defaults/rc.conf.
+shutdown_clean_enable=NO   # Set to YES to stop all but the first CPU
+   # core to prevent mixed buffer output
+   # upon shutdown.
+
 . /etc/rc.subr

 load_rc_config 'XXX'

+# Fall back to single core mode to guarantee clean output.
+if checkyesno shutdown_clean_enable; then
+   bitmask=$(jot -s '' -b1 $(expr $(sysctl -n hw.ncpu) - 1))0
+   sysctl machdep.hlt_cpus=$bitmask
+fi
+
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_devname in src/usr.sbin/sysinstall/devices.c

2008-02-20 Thread Brian A. Seklecki
All:

Does anyone know the relationship between this structure (major, minor,
delta, etc.) and real device IDs?  Obviously devd(8) isn't running in
the MFS install kernel, but I assume the magic still happens.

Also, I don't see that major/minors indexed here actually matching a
booted SMP kernel?

$ ls /dev/mfi*
crw-r-  1 root  operator0,  32 Dec 14 13:16 /dev/mfi0
crw-r-  1 root  operator0,  85 Dec 14 13:16 /dev/mfid0
crw-r-  1 root  operator0,  87 Dec 14 13:16 /dev/mfid0s1
crw-r-  1 root  operator0,  95 Dec 14 13:16 /dev/mfid0s1a
[...snip...]
crw-r-  1 root  operator0, 101 Dec 14 13:16 /dev/mfid0s1g
crw-r-  1 root  operator0,  86 Dec 14 13:16 /dev/mfid1

But devices.c lists the major as:
  
{ DEVICE_TYPE_DISK, mfid%d, LSI MegaRAID SAS, 254, 65538, 8, 4 },


I'm pretty sure neither 254 and/or 32/85 are match the major on the
boot/install MFS kernel.   They don't seem to be related, yet when i
screw with struct{} _devname, I break device detection, so it is still
used in some way.

I'm fuzzy on how these M/M are used in FreeBSD -- I missed the whole
auto-magic assignment period during the 5x days.



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Re: diskLabelCommit fails within a sysinstall script?

2008-02-20 Thread Jerry McAllister
On Wed, Feb 20, 2008 at 01:48:53PM -0500, Brian A. Seklecki wrote:

 
 On Tue, 2008-02-19 at 16:32 -0500, Jerry McAllister wrote:
  I don't know about all you ask, but the 'c' partition should always
  be there and be set to identify the whole slice eg start at 0 and
  the size be the size of the slice.   The system uses it to identify
 
 its a damn shame that this is still the case.  defeats / undermines the
 whole purpose of /dev/[as][d##][s#][a-z]
 
 /dev/[as][d##][s#] alone can represent entire BIOS partitions
 /dev/[as][d##] alone can represent entire disk
 
 Not sure why we still need a 'c' slice for legacy ?!

Probably.  I don't really know how it gets used, but the system
still seems to expect it somewhere.   

jerry

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Re: Shutdown anomaly

2008-02-20 Thread Robert Huff
Dominic Fandrey writes:

It's an interleaved buffer messages on SMP systems. The problem is
known, but I haven't heard of a proposed solution yet.
   
  There is no fix.
  The workaround is to increase the size of the kernel printf()
   buffer.  I don't remember how you do that ... but this is not a new
   issue - chech the archives for details.
  
  I would like to propose a fix. Care to test it?

Me personally?  No.  Don't have an SMP machine available.


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Re: Getting FreeBSD 5.2.1

2008-02-20 Thread Alphons Fonz van Werven

Karthick Jayaraman wrote:

I would like to get the FreeBSD 5.2.1 iso image for PowerPC. Please let 
me know where I can get them.


Are you sure that 5.2.1 even exists for the PowerPC?

The FTP-archive starts with 6.0 and according to the release announcement
back then (http://www.freebsd.org/releases/5.2.1R/announce.html):
[begin quote]
FreeBSD 5.2.1-RELEASE supports the i386, pc98, alpha, sparc64, amd64, and
ia64 architectures
[end quote]
It doesn't mention powerpc.

Just a thought, I could be way off though.

Alphons

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Re: DNS /etc/namedb owner hell

2008-02-20 Thread Jordan Gordeev

Deian Popov wrote:

Hello,

I have the following problem with bind:

it is configured to run as bind:bind and after every reboot of the system
all files and directories under /etc/namedb become owned by root:wheel so
bind is unable is unable to update it's zone files after dhcpd leases IP to
any given client. How to fix either owner, or set somewhere that the owner
of this folder, subfolder and files is my DNS server?


See /etc/rc.d/named and /etc/mtree/BIND.chroot.dist.
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Re: diskLabelCommit fails within a sysinstall script?

2008-02-20 Thread Brian A. Seklecki

  
  /dev/[as][d##][s#] alone can represent entire BIOS partitions
  /dev/[as][d##] alone can represent entire disk
  
  Not sure why we still need a 'c' slice for legacy ?!
 
 Probably.  I don't really know how it gets used, but the system
 still seems to expect it somewhere.   

That kind of uncertainly is likely why the other projects haven't
adopted the new model, which is a shame, but pragmatically speaking... 

I'll be happy when they do, either way.


 
 jerry
 
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Re: RELENG_6_3 build fail -- signal 13 consistently

2008-02-20 Thread Brian A. Seklecki

On Thu, 2008-01-24 at 09:17 -0500, Brian A. Seklecki wrote:
 This is 6.3/amd64 release as a guest inside a vmware server (free) host:
 

It happens randomly.  First time I've seen it.  amd64 and i386 under
vmware 1.x server (Free Version).  

I guess I'll use physical hardware for build farms.

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Solved: Problem building loader in RELENG_7

2008-02-20 Thread Erik Norgaard

Erik Norgaard wrote:

Just updated my source tree, I'm on FreeBSD bifrost 7.0-PRERELEASE 
FreeBSD 7.0-PRERELEASE #1: Tue Feb 12 09:52:32 CET 2008. Then I did


# cd /usr/src
# make -DLOADER_TFTP_SUPPORT=YES


I have just updated my source tree and the loader builds nicely again.

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Re: RELENG_6_3 build fail -- signal 13 consistently

2008-02-20 Thread Brian A. Seklecki

On Wed, 2008-02-20 at 14:33 -0500, Brian A. Seklecki wrote:
 On Thu, 2008-01-24 at 09:17 -0500, Brian A. Seklecki wrote:
  This is 6.3/amd64 release as a guest inside a vmware server (free)
 host:
  
 
 It happens randomly.  First time I've seen it.  amd64 and i386 under
 vmware 1.x server (Free Version).  
 
 I guess I'll use physical hardware for build farms.
 

This could have been two things:

1) The VM was originally FreeBSD 32bit -- so it emulated lnc(4), it
was then switched to FreBSD64 -- em(4), then back to 32 -- who knows
-- it's commercial software.

2) The VM had a non exponent/power of 2 sized RAM allocation (it was set
to 216mb -- probably a GUI blooper) -- although this generally hasn't
been a problem for 10 years since video cards started arbitrarily
stealing physical DRAM for their frame-buffer.

lnc(4) problem originates from this error:

   kernel: lnc0: Missed packet -- no receive buffer 

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Re: DNS /etc/namedb owner hell

2008-02-20 Thread Christian Walther
Hi there,

On 20/02/2008, Jordan Gordeev [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[...]
 See /etc/rc.d/named and /etc/mtree/BIND.chroot.dist.
  And please, next time don't be so quick on mailing [EMAIL PROTECTED]

IMO questions is exactly dedicated for this purpose. Of course the OP
could've solved the problem on his own, but maybe he just came across
FreeBSD recently and does not now all of FreeBSDs specialties.
Maybe the OP isn't used to reading shell scripts (not everyone dealing
with Unix system is capable of reading or even writing scripts).
I think discouraging a user of asking questions he/she is unable to
solve on his/her own is not that usefull.

Just my $0.02
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PS: I had to deal with this problem and it took me longer than expected.
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Re: Shutdown anomaly

2008-02-20 Thread Tore Lund
Steven Friedrich wrote:
 I am seeing the following messages, which appear to indicate a memory 
 overwrite:
 Waiting (max 60 seconds) for system processs 'vnlru' to stop...done
 Waiting (max 60 seconds) for system processs 'bufdaemon' to stop...done
 a
  iStyinncgi n(gm adxi s6k0s ,s evcnoonddess)  rfeomra isnyisntge.m. .pr0o 
 cess 'syncer' to stop...0 0 done
 All buffers synced.
 Uptime: 8m9s

I don't know if this is relevant.  Anyway, I used to see this error on
7.0-RC1, at any rate when using xdm.  I no longer see it on 7.0-RC2.
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RE: Shutdown anomaly

2008-02-20 Thread Brent Jones

  -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tore Lund
 Sent: Thursday, 21 February 2008 9:32 a.m.
 To: Steven Friedrich; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
 Subject: Re: Shutdown anomaly
 
 Steven Friedrich wrote:
   iStyinncgi n(gm adxi s6k0s ,s evcnoonddess)  rfeomra 
 isnyisntge.m. .pr0o 
  cess 'syncer' to stop...0 0 done
  All buffers synced.
  Uptime: 8m9s
 
 I don't know if this is relevant.  Anyway, I used to see this error on
 7.0-RC1, at any rate when using xdm.  I no longer see it on 7.0-RC2.

I see it on my RC2 machine.  It comes and goes on my machine, and isn't
always present on shutdown.  Not running xdm, just a plain vanilla box
with no X.
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Re: esx 3.0.2 update1 BTX Halted issue

2008-02-20 Thread Omer Faruk SEN
Hello

It was my bad not to enable the VT feature of the CPU so esx wasn't supporting 
the 64 bit systems. This error is taken just  because of that. Fixed the issue 
and now I can happily install fbsd amd64 to esx3.0.2 update1 

Tuesday, February 19, 2008, 8:07:53 PM, you wrote:

   Hi,

 I am trying to install amd64 version of the freebsd 6.2 (also 6.3 gives the 
 same error).

 After options presented in the loader whatever I choose ( safe
 mode, wo acpi...) it directly goes to BTX Halted mode.

 Has anyone in this list installed fbsd 6.2 or 6.3 to esx 3.0.2
 update 1 ?(I have also tried esx 3.0.2 without update 1 and has
 taken the same error message). If yes have you done anything special for this 
 system ?

 BTW: This system is upgraded from first 2.5.4 

 Regards.


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Re: DJ500 dead after = 16 years.

2008-02-20 Thread Predrag Punosevac

David Kelly wrote:

On Wed, Feb 20, 2008 at 12:02:25AM -0800, Gary Kline wrote:
  
	Nutshell, I'd like anyone's ideas/experiences with some of these 
	new HP/ or whateverbrand printers. I wouldn't *mind* if I

could scan in text from a techy paper into HTML or PDF or text.
But mostly, like 99.44%  plain black text.  My old deskjet used
gs as a filter to print PostScript.  Do we have any such plugin
support, or are printers still roll-your-own?  [FWIW, I can't
seem to get CUPS working...  altho it maay be my misssing
/dev/lpt0.]



  
Why don't you check http://www.linux-foundation.org/en/OpenPrinting for 
the most comprehensive information available.


Just couple a comments. I would keep native LPD spooling system instead 
installing CUPS unless you need to use something
like HPLIP drivers. To stay on the same note, you should ask yourself 
firstly what is printer for.
If you are doing intensive black and white document printing like in an 
academic environment Laser Printers will give you the greatest millage 
and cost per copy ratio. In that case you should definitely try to
buy a printer that speaks Post Script language and avoid any drivers. 
The mentioned Brother HL series is wonderful.
I have just good words for Lexmark Optra series. HP Laser jet above the 
1300 do speak full Post Script. Always a good decision. Be careful with 
HP 1000-1200 they might be problematic as they do not even speak PCL. 
See above link for the full explanation.


If you are using printing at home and need occasional color printing I 
would suggest you go with the HP deskjet/officejest  or even better with 
all-in-one device. HPLIP http://hplip.sourceforge.net/ will unlock full 
functionality of all-in-one devices including scanning via hpaio scanner 
drivers included in HPLIP.


There are couple Epson all-in-one devices that are fully supported with 
Gutenprint for the printer driver and sane-backhands for the printing. 
Something like CX-3800 or similar. Check the SANE web-site for full 
list. Note that SANE has released new
backhands two weeks ago and I am not sure if the FreeBSD port has been 
updated to 1.19 version.


If you decide that you do NOT need scanner stick with the printer that 
speak full PCL and which are listed in the foomatic-db or/and ghostscript.



Personally, I have HP laser jet 4L. Speaks PCL and listed in foomatic-db.
I have Office Jet R60 all-in-one  speaks PCL and listed in foomatic 
-db.  In  order  to unlock scanning it has to be attached
separately to network as HPLIP doesn't support parallel port devices 
despite their claims that they do. It does but over the network.
Photosmart C5250 all-in-one. This is my wife printer for her photos but 
is also a scanner and copier. Full functionality unlocked with HPLIP 
drivers.



I hope that this helps

Predrag

P. S. You may also check the following couple articles.

How to edit printcap file and use foomatic filter

http://www.onlamp.com/pub/a/bsd/2004/07/08/FreeBSD_Basics.html?page=1

How to use apsfilter

http://www.onlamp.com/pub/a/bsd/2003/11/06/Big_Scary_Daemons.html

How to use ghostscript as a input filter and lots of other goodies by 
our own Ted


http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/corp-net-guide/index.html

How to set up HPLIP on FreeBSD
http://dsteinbrook.googlepages.com/hpliponfreebsd

Note that the Handbook is more than enough to set up Post Script 
printer. You may also want to read man pages

for printcap. Nice info.
If you




I have been pleased with my purchase of a Brother HL-5250DN several years
ago. Was $250 at the time, usually can be found on sale now for under
$200. Refurbished HL-5240's under $100.

This is a 30 ppm (rated) laser with ethernet, USB, HPL-6 and Brother's
Postscript-3 clone. Also prints duplex. 3rd party toner refills are $20
for roughly 7,000 pages. Drum is rated at 25,000 pages. If it doesn't
last that long a new or refurbished printer is cheaper than a
replacement drum.

Have fond memories of old HP-4000N, HP-4050N, and HP-5000N printers but
nothing used was available as inexpensive as the Brother was. The
Brother is better suited for my uses as its very quick to warm up from
sleep, maybe as fast as my DJ-990.

  


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Re: Shutdown anomaly

2008-02-20 Thread Jonathan Chen
On Wed, Feb 20, 2008 at 08:06:36PM +0100, Dominic Fandrey wrote:
 Robert Huff wrote:
 Jonathan Chen writes:
 
   I am seeing the following messages, which appear to indicate a memory 
   overwrite:
   Waiting (max 60 seconds) for system processs 'vnlru' to stop...done
   Waiting (max 60 seconds) for system processs 'bufdaemon' to stop...done
   a
iStyinncgi n(gm adxi s6k0s ,s evcnoonddess)  rfeomra isnyisntge.m. 
  .pr0o  cess 'syncer' to stop...0 0 done
   All buffers synced.
   Uptime: 8m9s
  
  It's an interleaved buffer messages on SMP systems. The problem is
  known, but I haven't heard of a proposed solution yet.
 
  There is no fix.
  The workaround is to increase the size of the kernel printf()
 buffer.  I don't remember how you do that ... but this is not a new
 issue - chech the archives for details.
 
 I would like to propose a fix. Care to test it?
 
 Just apply this patch and add the following line to your /etc/rc.conf file.
 shutdown_clean_enable=YES

I'm not too keen on the fix, as it only pushes the problem under the
carpet just for the sake of nice output on shutdown. There's still
tons of mangled output in the logs (esp. if you run a logging
firewall).

Here's hoping for a kernel-fix sometime in the future.

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Cambio de DNS

2008-02-20 Thread Edgar_Soto

Como puedo cambiar o dar de alta DNS en FreeBSD

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Re: Cambio de DNS

2008-02-20 Thread David Alanis

Tuenes que ser mas especifico?

El DNS que usas como usuario se utiliza en el file de /etc/resolv.conf

Aqui pondrias los DNS servers que utilizaz para hacer tus queries o si  
estas implementando tu propio server tienes que usar los files dentro  
/var/named/etc/named


Que es lo que quieres hacer?

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Re: FTPD and IExplore

2008-02-20 Thread Gerard
On Wed, 20 Feb 2008 12:15:13 +0200
klerfe [Bodegas] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi. My problem is i cannot connect to my ftp server (started from
 inetd) via IExplore or any other web browser. I've added user ftp to
 enable anonymous logins on my ftp server and it works when connecting
 via ftp client such as Total Commander. But it doesn't work via any
 web browser. My OS is FreeBSD 6.2. I had 5.4 before, and i didn't had
 this problem on previous machine. The problem appeared when i freshly
 reinstalled the operating system. Any suggestions?

I run pure-ftpd for my FTP server, and it has no problems with IE or
Firefox. Then again, it is not started from 'inetd' so that might
have something to to with it. Since you stated that no web browser can
make a connection, that kind of rules out IE as the culprit.

Do you receive any type of error message? What does it say? I just
tried accessing ftp.stereo.lt, I hope that is your FTP site, and it
asked for log-in credentials.

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Re: problem while creating a package

2008-02-20 Thread Mel
On Wednesday 20 February 2008 08:06:52 lokesh babu wrote:
 hi,

 i am facing a problem while extracting a package

 1)i created a package using pkg_create

 command used is :
 *pkg_create -f cwd/filelist -p cwd/avamar -c cwd/comments -d cwd/desc*
 package is getting created and it is in cwd

 2)extracting it using pkg_add

 command used is :*pkg_add packagename.tbz*
 here package is getting extracted but it is extracted into cwd/avamar now
 what i want is i want to extract it into a default location
 /usr/local/avamar
 can u please help me in doing this

Add a @cwd /usr/local/avamar to your packinglist.

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Re: libc5 on freebsd 6.3

2008-02-20 Thread Mel
On Tuesday 19 February 2008 04:17:22 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 /usr/local/cyrus/bin/timsieved:

 libdb-4.2.so.2 = /usr/local/lib/libdb-4.2.so.2 (0x881fb000)

 libc.so.5 = /lib/libc.so.5 (0x8851c000)

There's your problem. Rebuild databases/db42.
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Re: network not performing - where to start?

2008-02-20 Thread Mel
On Monday 18 February 2008 10:23:58 Boldra wrote:

 ed1: flags=8843UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST mtu 1500
 inet 192.168.1.5 netmask 0xff00 broadcast 192.168.1.255
 ether 00:a0:0c:40:32:a3
 media: Ethernet autoselect (100baseTX full-duplex)
 status: active

It takes two to tango: is the other nic running 100Mbit?

 So my questions are:
 How do I check the network performance from within freebsd?

Excellent tool:
http://www.freshports.org/net/bmon/

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Re: The configuration could not be loaded --- Gnome

2008-02-20 Thread Mel
On Monday 18 February 2008 04:31:53 E. J. Cerejo wrote:

 (users-admin:51143): Liboobs-WARNING **: Failed to connect to socket
 /var/run/dbus/system_bus_socket: No such file or directory

echo 'dbus_enable=YES' /etc/rc.conf  /usr/local/etc/rc.d/dbus start

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KQueue and EVFILT_TIMER question

2008-02-20 Thread Mel
Hi,

I'm using a kqueue(2) that installs a timer into the queue when a certain 
condition has happened. This timer waits for another condition at intervals 
(specifically, it watches for a file to be created). Every 500ms it does a 
stat(2) for a given filename and when stat succeeds, I do the following:

changes[0].flags |= EV_ONESHOT;
changes[0].udata = (void*)1;
changes[0].flags |= EV_ADD;

Problem is, that this timer now never disappears, even if I replace changes[0] 
with a completely different event (specifically, EVFILT_VNODE on the file we 
now know is created).
I suspect that:

This filter automatically sets the EV_CLEAR flag internally. is the culprit. 

So how would I go about terminating the timer? Or is the only way to 
initialize it as EV_ONESHOT and keep reinstalling a new one when required? Or 
close the kq all together and start a new one? EV_DELETE?

On a related note, is the ident for a timer really used and should I increment 
it (all examples I've seen simply set ident to 1).
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Re: FreeBSD Linux distro

2008-02-20 Thread Chad Perrin
On Wed, Feb 20, 2008 at 10:44:37AM +1000, Da Rock wrote:
 On Tue, 2008-02-19 at 08:49 -0700, Chad Perrin wrote:
  
  The way you phrased it makes it sound like FreeBSD is simply unsuited to
  use as a desktop system.  Contrary to that impression, I'm sending this
  from a Thinkpad laptop with FreeBSD on it, and it's by far the best
  desktop OS I've ever had the pleasure to use.
 
 Me too. But you have to be more enabled to get a lot of the software the
 is wanted on a desktop system working. Case in point: Gnome is not
 automatically installed (or kde or any other wm). Web browsing can be
 tricky because you have to get wrappers for plugins and so on. For you
 and me- we don't mind because we know the result will be fantastic, but
 others who just want to get on with it it can be a pain.

More enabled . . . ?

You have to be more enabled to use *anything* that isn't preinstalled
by the hardware vendor.  That basically means anything that isn't MS
Windows or MacOS X.  After all, Linux, FreeBSD, Plan 9 . . . none of them
are automatically installed on any computer, with rare exceptions.


 
 Therefore, I'd say a desktop version of FreeBSD would be better
 described as a workstation. Considering we're comparing to Ubuntu, I'd
 say thats a fair statement.

I'm not sure what you're trying to say here.

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Re: FreeBSD Linux distro

2008-02-20 Thread Da Rock

On Wed, 2008-02-20 at 16:50 -0700, Chad Perrin wrote:
 On Wed, Feb 20, 2008 at 10:44:37AM +1000, Da Rock wrote:
  On Tue, 2008-02-19 at 08:49 -0700, Chad Perrin wrote:
   
   The way you phrased it makes it sound like FreeBSD is simply unsuited to
   use as a desktop system.  Contrary to that impression, I'm sending this
   from a Thinkpad laptop with FreeBSD on it, and it's by far the best
   desktop OS I've ever had the pleasure to use.
  
  Me too. But you have to be more enabled to get a lot of the software the
  is wanted on a desktop system working. Case in point: Gnome is not
  automatically installed (or kde or any other wm). Web browsing can be
  tricky because you have to get wrappers for plugins and so on. For you
  and me- we don't mind because we know the result will be fantastic, but
  others who just want to get on with it it can be a pain.
 
 More enabled . . . ?
 
 You have to be more enabled to use *anything* that isn't preinstalled
 by the hardware vendor.  That basically means anything that isn't MS
 Windows or MacOS X.  After all, Linux, FreeBSD, Plan 9 . . . none of them
 are automatically installed on any computer, with rare exceptions.
 
 

Considering the original question of the OP wouldn't you agree that this
might be their background?


  
  Therefore, I'd say a desktop version of FreeBSD would be better
  described as a workstation. Considering we're comparing to Ubuntu, I'd
  say thats a fair statement.
 
 I'm not sure what you're trying to say here.
 

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Re: Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-N650SLI-DS4

2008-02-20 Thread Paul A. Procacci

Frank Shute wrote:

On Wed, Feb 20, 2008 at 01:06:30PM +0200, David Naylor wrote:
  

Hi,

I am currently replacing my defunct motherboard, I am unable to test
the hardware before purchase and I am seeking advice on which
motherboard to get.

Upon review I have selected a Gigabyte GA-N650SLI-DS4, does FreeBSD
work with this board.  It does have a nForce 650i (and I am not sure
FreeBSD works with it?)



I just built a workstation with a Gigabyte GA-P35-DS3L (P35/ICH9)
board and am running a core 2 duo on it with AMD 7.0RC1. Everything works
including ACPI which is very important if you want to run more than 1
core. 

  

If anyone has an alternative suggestion please let me know.  The
motherboard will have to support (my budget is about  ZAR2000 ~
USD275): 



  
o) Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 



Mine supports that with up to 1333MHz FSB.

  

o) 4x 800Mhz DDR2 Ram



Yep. I've got 4GB, don't know whether it will go to 8, the handbook is no
help.

  

o) 2x SATA HDD



Yep. 4 Channels.

  

o) 2x IDE CDROM Drive



Yes. Only 1 IDE channel but supports 2 devices

  

o) 2x nVidia 7600 GT



I guess that's SLI which I don't know a lot about or whether FreeBSD
(X) can make any use of it. Only 1 PCI-E x 16 on my board so I guess
not for me.

  

Thank you all for your help



I don't know anything about your nForce650i chipset but as a rule of
thumb, if the technology is more than 6 months old, it's likely to
work unless there's non-disclosure by the manufacturer (I think Nvidia
are quite good in that respect).

May be somebody else can comment on whether it will work. Or if you
can drop one of the video cards you can use the same motherboard as
me since I've tested it (apart from sound). And it's probably cheaper!
About 65 quid (130 USD).

  
Just to add additional information for the OP.  I too have a Gigabyte 
P35-DS3R (slight difference in model, but nearly the same) rev. 2.1 
board, and it works like a champ.


My specs (whether relavant or not to you):

o) Core 2 Q6600 Quad Core OC'd to 1333 FSB.
o) 4x 1066Mhz DDR2 Ram
o) IDE channel(s) not in use.
o) 4 SATA drives in raid 0+1 in use, 1 SATA CDROM drive in use
o) Floppy Controller / Drive in use.
o) nVidia 8800 GTX obviously in use.

Like Frank mentioned, my video card doesn't run in Sli mode, however 
I've had nothing but luck thus far.


I hope this little bit helps.  Maybe next time if otherwise.
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Is there any print enabled graphic design software?

2008-02-20 Thread Da Rock
I'm trying to get away from Adobe products (which are becoming rather
agressive towards OSS), but I need to find a graphic software that can
handle CMYK properly.

I've tried GIMP (which has great tools) but it doesn't handle CMYK
files- it only uses sRGB.

I've tried Krita, but it doesn't work as well as GIMP tool wise, and I
can't specify images sizes very well at all- it only works on pixel
size, not inches or dpi/ppi.

Therefore both are great for designing screen images, but not printed
images. I even tried using GIMP to design (using CMYK colours here), and
reformatting to a CMYK file with Krita. Problem with this is that the
image size doesn't work once reformatted, plus I need to export to pdf
which neither do and so printing to pdf means the final image size is an
A4 and god knows what dpi.

Anything better out there?

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Re: FreeBSD Linux distro

2008-02-20 Thread Chad Perrin
On Tue, Feb 19, 2008 at 01:27:49PM -0700, Chad Perrin wrote:
  
  On Tue, Feb 19, 2008 at 09:14:04AM -0700, Chad Perrin wrote:
 [ snip a bunch of stuff ]
 
 On Tue, Feb 19, 2008 at 11:36:34AM -0500, Jerry McAllister wrote:
  
  A good rundown of some of the differences.
  Maybe you can put this on a web page and get it added to lists
  of comparrisons.
 
 Sure.  I'll polish it up and post it somewhere in that polished form,
 then reply here.  If not today, I'll aim to get it done tomorrow.

Okay, posted:

  http://arc.apotheon.org/freebsd/vs_linux.html

If anyone has suggestions for how to fix it up further, let me know.

-- 
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Paul Graham: Real ugliness is not harsh-looking syntax, but having to
build programs out of the wrong concepts.
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Re: Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-N650SLI-DS4

2008-02-20 Thread Frank Shute
On Wed, Feb 20, 2008 at 01:06:30PM +0200, David Naylor wrote:

 Hi,
 
 I am currently replacing my defunct motherboard, I am unable to test
 the hardware before purchase and I am seeking advice on which
 motherboard to get.
 
 Upon review I have selected a Gigabyte GA-N650SLI-DS4, does FreeBSD
 work with this board.  It does have a nForce 650i (and I am not sure
 FreeBSD works with it?)

I just built a workstation with a Gigabyte GA-P35-DS3L (P35/ICH9)
board and am running a core 2 duo on it with AMD 7.0RC1. Everything works
including ACPI which is very important if you want to run more than 1
core. 

 
 If anyone has an alternative suggestion please let me know.  The
 motherboard will have to support (my budget is about  ZAR2000 ~
 USD275): 

 o) Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 

Mine supports that with up to 1333MHz FSB.

 o) 4x 800Mhz DDR2 Ram

Yep. I've got 4GB, don't know whether it will go to 8, the handbook is no
help.

 o) 2x SATA HDD

Yep. 4 Channels.

 o) 2x IDE CDROM Drive

Yes. Only 1 IDE channel but supports 2 devices

 o) 2x nVidia 7600 GT

I guess that's SLI which I don't know a lot about or whether FreeBSD
(X) can make any use of it. Only 1 PCI-E x 16 on my board so I guess
not for me.

 
 Thank you all for your help

I don't know anything about your nForce650i chipset but as a rule of
thumb, if the technology is more than 6 months old, it's likely to
work unless there's non-disclosure by the manufacturer (I think Nvidia
are quite good in that respect).

May be somebody else can comment on whether it will work. Or if you
can drop one of the video cards you can use the same motherboard as
me since I've tested it (apart from sound). And it's probably cheaper!
About 65 quid (130 USD).

-- 

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 Contact info: http://www.esperance-linux.co.uk/misc/contact.html 

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Mounting FS read-only for specific user (or root)

2008-02-20 Thread Andrew Bradford

Hi all,

I'm trying to set up a mounted filesystem that is read-write for root, 
but read-only for anyone else.  It will be mounted as a backup 
directory, so files listed in that directory will be owned by current 
users on the system but can't be writeable, regardless of the file 
permissions.


Example
normal filesystems mounted from hd1
hd2 mounted rw in /root/backup-rw
hd2 mounted ro in /backups

Only root should be able to write to anything under /root/backup-rw/ 
even though normal users will own files in that directory.  Normal users 
should be able to read anything that permissions allow in /backups so 
that they can restore files from the backup.


I was planning on using the nullfs fs type to achieve the second 
mountpoint for the fs.


Is this possible?

Thanks,

Andrew

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Unicode Console?

2008-02-20 Thread Kevin Monceaux

Fellow FreeBSD Fans,

I've been running FreeBSD on a web/mail server, which I only have remote 
access to, for a while now.  At home I've been running Linux since the 
1.xx kernel days but am considering switching my desktop box to FreeBSD.


I never given much thought to my locale setting until recently.  I'm about 
to start participating in an online Spanish study group, via e-mail, and 
might also be following along with an Old English study group.  I'm an old 
fashioned kinda user and prefer to do as much as I can via the text 
console.  I compose/read e-mail via Alpine.  After some trial and error I 
finally convinced my Linux box, currently running Arch Linux, to handle 
all of the special characters I need via the console.  In the end, it 
amounted to:


1.  Add en_US.UTF-8 UTF-8 to /etc/locale.gen

2.  run locale-gen

3.  set LANG to en_US.UTF-8

4.  Switch to a font that contains the symbols I need.  I'm currently
using one of the Terminus console fonts.  For some reason I had to
switch to a framebuffer console otherwise after executing
unicode_start the font was way too dim.

5.  run unicode_start(added to my .cshrc file)

After the above I'm able to display various accented characters such as á, 
é, ì, ö, û, ç, etc. along with the Spanish ñ, inverted punctuation marks ¡, 
¿, Old English thorn(þ), eth(ð), ash(æ), etc.  Also, from reading mail 
from various mailing lists I've noticed that it also handles the Cyrillic 
alphabet and part of the Greek alphabet.


From what I've seen of FreeBSD I'd expect it to have console capabilities 
that are superior to those of Linux.  But, I haven't managed to figure out 
how to achieve similar functionality via the FreeBSD text consoles.  I'm 
currently testing FreeBSD(7.0-RC2) under VMware.  Can anyone point me in 
the right direction?





Kevin
http://www.RawFedDogs.net
http://www.WacoAgilityGroup.org
Bruceville, TX

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Re: Unicode Console?

2008-02-20 Thread Yuri Pankov
On Wed, Feb 20, 2008 at 07:28:52PM -0600, Kevin Monceaux wrote:
 Fellow FreeBSD Fans,

 I've been running FreeBSD on a web/mail server, which I only have remote 
 access to, for a while now.  At home I've been running Linux since the 1.xx 
 kernel days but am considering switching my desktop box to FreeBSD.

 I never given much thought to my locale setting until recently.  I'm about 
 to start participating in an online Spanish study group, via e-mail, and 
 might also be following along with an Old English study group.  I'm an old 
 fashioned kinda user and prefer to do as much as I can via the text 
 console.  I compose/read e-mail via Alpine.  After some trial and error I 
 finally convinced my Linux box, currently running Arch Linux, to handle all 
 of the special characters I need via the console.  In the end, it 
 amounted to:

 1.  Add en_US.UTF-8 UTF-8 to /etc/locale.gen

 2.  run locale-gen

 3.  set LANG to en_US.UTF-8

 4.  Switch to a font that contains the symbols I need.  I'm currently
 using one of the Terminus console fonts.  For some reason I had to
 switch to a framebuffer console otherwise after executing
 unicode_start the font was way too dim.

 5.  run unicode_start(added to my .cshrc file)

 After the above I'm able to display various accented characters such as á, 
 é, ì, ö, û, ç, etc. along with the Spanish ñ, inverted punctuation 
 marks ¡, ¿, Old English thorn(þ), eth(ð), ash(æ), etc.  Also, from 
 reading mail from various mailing lists I've noticed that it also handles 
 the Cyrillic alphabet and part of the Greek alphabet.

 From what I've seen of FreeBSD I'd expect it to have console capabilities 
 that are superior to those of Linux.  But, I haven't managed to figure out 
 how to achieve similar functionality via the FreeBSD text consoles.  I'm 
 currently testing FreeBSD(7.0-RC2) under VMware.  Can anyone point me in 
 the right direction?




 Kevin
 http://www.RawFedDogs.net
 http://www.WacoAgilityGroup.org
 Bruceville, TX

 Si hoc legere scis nimium eruditionis habes.
 Longum iter est per praecepta, breve et efficax per exempla!!!

Unicode isn't supported in syscons at all (AFAIK). Check
http://opal.com/jr/freebsd/unicode/ for more complete overview.


HTH,
Yuri
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Re: Is there any print enabled graphic design software?

2008-02-20 Thread Bill Moran
Da Rock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I'm trying to get away from Adobe products (which are becoming rather
 agressive towards OSS), but I need to find a graphic software that can
 handle CMYK properly.
 
 I've tried GIMP (which has great tools) but it doesn't handle CMYK
 files- it only uses sRGB.
 
 I've tried Krita, but it doesn't work as well as GIMP tool wise, and I
 can't specify images sizes very well at all- it only works on pixel
 size, not inches or dpi/ppi.
 
 Therefore both are great for designing screen images, but not printed
 images. I even tried using GIMP to design (using CMYK colours here), and
 reformatting to a CMYK file with Krita. Problem with this is that the
 image size doesn't work once reformatted, plus I need to export to pdf
 which neither do and so printing to pdf means the final image size is an
 A4 and god knows what dpi.
 
 Anything better out there?

Might Scribus suit your needs?

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http://www.potentialtech.com
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Re: Unicode Console?

2008-02-20 Thread Kevin Monceaux

Yuri,

On Thu, 21 Feb 2008, Yuri Pankov wrote:

Unicode isn't supported in syscons at all (AFAIK). Check 
http://opal.com/jr/freebsd/unicode/ for more complete overview.


Thanks for the info.  According to the info at the above URL the FreeBSD 
syscons doesn't currently support unicode, but work is in progress.  That 
page was last updated on 07/06/2007, so perhaps there has been some 
progress since then.  I'll be watching for updates.




Kevin
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http://www.WacoAgilityGroup.org
Bruceville, TX

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Re: FreeBSD Linux distro

2008-02-20 Thread Predrag Punosevac

Chad Perrin wrote:

On Tue, Feb 19, 2008 at 01:27:49PM -0700, Chad Perrin wrote:
  

On Tue, Feb 19, 2008 at 09:14:04AM -0700, Chad Perrin wrote:
  

[ snip a bunch of stuff ]

On Tue, Feb 19, 2008 at 11:36:34AM -0500, Jerry McAllister wrote:


A good rundown of some of the differences.
Maybe you can put this on a web page and get it added to lists
of comparrisons.
  

Sure.  I'll polish it up and post it somewhere in that polished form,
then reply here.  If not today, I'll aim to get it done tomorrow.



Okay, posted:

  http://arc.apotheon.org/freebsd/vs_linux.html

If anyone has suggestions for how to fix it up further, let me know.

  

Hi Chad,

Here is my honest opinion. I hope it will help you improve the post :-)

I didn't like very much the tone of the article as well as some 
pejorative conclusion. If you are going to post something even
as a FreeBSD advocacy the tone of the article should be neutral and all 
claims verifiable. Do not get me wrong. I
do not like Linux and more over I have never used it in my life but I 
would have hard time to swallow some of your claims.


How would you feel if I tell you that I use mostly OpenBSD because it is 
easier for work than FreeBSD and in my experience much more stable than 
FreeBSD.  Those are my subjective feelings and probably have little to 
do with the reality. If anything statement like that are irritating and 
have no value to a person who is deciding between using OpenBSD or FreeBSD.


Try to find on the internet couple of advocacy articles by Greg Lehey.  
They are  very  well-written. 

Example: Statement of the type BSD appears more stable than Linux is 
non-verifiable.
Statement of the type FreeBSD is direct decedent of the BSD flavor of 
Unix started in mid seventies at the University of California Berkley 
while the Linux kernel is Unix clone started in 1993 based on the 
mixture of System V and BSD Unix is
verifiable. Or 80% of all servers with longest up time run FreeBSD is 
something that can be verified.


You should definitely address the following things

1. FreeBSD is longer in the development than Linux.

2.  Probably 80% of the servers with the longest  UP time run  FreeBSD.  
Give a link. Easy to find.


3. FreeBSD is a COMPLETE operating system GNU/Linux is not.

4. It has different development and engineering process than Linux.

5. It has better quality control at least because Linux has no quality 
control at all.


6. The Largest FTP sever on the world run FreeBSD (your beloved freebsd.org)

7. FreeBSD has one of the best systems for the installation of the third 
party software (ports and do not forget packages
as some people will jump at you and make a claim that Debian has better 
packaging system as it is more efficient than compiling things from ports)


8. Most extensive collection of third party software (over 18000 ) only 
second to Debian.


9. One of the best documented systems

10. Mention the advantage of the BSD license  comparing to GPL for the 
commercial use.


11. It is philosophically different than most Linux distros as all 
services are turned of by default.


12. Unlike Linux it doesn't claim that is the best and most suitable for 
everything.  If you need security then Open is better choice. If you 
need something for embedded devices probably Net is better choice.


13. More secure than Linux if for no other reason but for PF which is 
ported from OpenBSD. Note that PF is not ported for Linux.


14. Kernel security level concept doesn't exist in Linux.

Try to disperse common myth that BSD doesn't support hardware but do not 
be shy to admit that lack support for things like

video conferencing.

Do not be shy to admit that virtualization is poor and maybe 
intensionally as quite of few people do not believe that putting 
somebody's else cra*p on the top of FreeBSD will not make that cra*p 
working better or be more secure. If you need Window's application run 
Windows.



Does it make a good Desktop system? Depends what do you mean by that. If 
you need everything working out of box
for your grandmother Mily probably not. If you need Flash and Java 
plug-ins probably not. But if you need ROCK solid
workstation for academic work, occasional multimedia and want to be 100% 
in control of your computer like me it is the best desktop OS around.



Most Kind Regards,

Predrag
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