Re: Disk usage analysis

[Gary Kline]

On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 07:52:38AM +0200, Polytropon wrote:
> On Tue, 21 Apr 2009 20:08:18 -0700, Christopher Chambers 
>  wrote:
> > Is there an easy way to analyze disk usage to determine which files and
> > folders are taking up the most space?
> 
> See "man du". Just for terminology: In UNIX (so in FreeBSD), there
> are no folders. Folders are made of paper and reside in a cabinet. :-)
> 
> These are called directories.
> 
> You don't call files "sheets of paper" either, do you? :-)

YES!! I'm probably too up-tight about the use of "folder",
but it just seems like waay too much stupiding-down of the
std Unix terminology.  ([I thought I was the only one].  And yes,
there are things of greater gravitas to be ticked off about!)

gary

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Re: Disk usage analysis

[Polytropon]

On Tue, 21 Apr 2009 20:08:18 -0700, Christopher Chambers 
 wrote:
> Is there an easy way to analyze disk usage to determine which files and
> folders are taking up the most space?

See "man du". Just for terminology: In UNIX (so in FreeBSD), there
are no folders. Folders are made of paper and reside in a cabinet. :-)

These are called directories.

You don't call files "sheets of paper" either, do you? :-)

For a GUI solution, check out file browsers. Most of them have the
ability to calculate the disk space occupation of a certain
directory or subtree. For example, in the Midnight Commander,
use PF9, Command, Show directory sizes.


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Re: Customized Remote Install

[Polytropon]

On Tue, 21 Apr 2009 18:47:11 -0400, Jerry McAllister  wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 11:51:32PM +0200, Polytropon wrote:
> 
> > On Tue, 21 Apr 2009 14:42:32 -0600, Scott Seekamp  
> > wrote:
> > > My hope was that I could make an automated install CD/DVD that  
> > > configured all the options I want AND change some base config files so  
> > > I can actually get to the box (or install an SSH key).
> > > [...]
> > > I'm open to other options if someone has gone down this road before!
> > 
> > I'd like to advertize a method that I think is very comfortable
> > in such a setting. It's worth mentioning that this method
> > usually requires (a) modern enough PCs or (b) you to know what
> > is the hardware profile of the PC.
> > 
> > The method works as follows:
> > 
> > First create a FreeBSD as you want it to be on the clients.
> > Install and configure everything as you intend.
> > 
> > Then dump the created partitions onto a CD or DVD and create
> > a simple script that:
> > 1. initializes the client's hard disk
> > 2. slices the disk and newfses the partitions
> > 3. dumps the partition images onto the disks
> > 4. reboots the machine into operating state.
> > 
> > After this, you should be able to SSH into the client and
> > change settings that need to be changed.
> 
> This works very well. 

I just realize that I missed something: Better than dd, I think
dump & restore are the preferred tools to create the partition
images. When you're done on your "template system", umount its
partitions (in SUM) and use dump to dump them into files. These
files go to the installation DVD and are later on restored onto
the (empty) partitions using the restore command. This will
preserve any permissions and other file properties.



>  I have done essentially the same many times.
> The one thing missing is that you need to have something to set the
> network information -- hostname, IP address, gateway, netmask
> and name-server.These will be different for each machine.
> So, your script will have to accomodate this - read console
> input for these items and plug them in to the proper places
> before rebooting.

That's correct. I always used a kind of "CHANGE THIS!" items
to do so, or, if none are given, they are automatically created
so the system boots up and runs, but then again, require service
afterwards. This can be made work this way: When the "incomplete"
system is up and running, it mails the distant administrator (or
contacts him in another way) requiring him to finish the settings.
But I think it's the best solution to propmt for these
specific settings at "installation time" (read, when the
restore job is done, the partitions can be mounted -o rw and
the files neccessary to be changed can be created or modified).

The "installation" will then continue and finish.

Of course, the dump & restore method lacks a lot of bling,
blitzen, eye candy, bells and whistles, but it honours the
abstinence to such stuff with speed and easyness of use. But
it's still neccessary to read (and understand) and press a
few keys on the keyboard. :-)



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Re: Encrypted slice with geli

[Roland Smith]

On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 02:42:11AM +0200, Bernt Hansson wrote:
> Bill Moran said the following on 2009-04-21 14:41:
> > In response to Bernt Hansson :
> > 
> >> Giorgos Keramidas said the following on 2009-04-20 23:59:
> >>> On Mon, 20 Apr 2009 21:38:54 +0200, Bernt Hansson  
> >>> wrote:
>  Hello list!
> 
>  I was thinking of makeing a slice encrypted with geli.
> 
>  My question is: does geli init -s 4096 /dev/ad* erase the data on the
>  slice. The handbook didn't say yes or no, and I don't want to try
>  without asking.
> >>> No, 
> >> No, what? does it erase the data or not.
> > 
> > It depends on exactly what part of the process you're talking about
> 
> 
> My question is: does geli init -s 4096 /dev/ad* erase the data on the
> slice

It only uses the last sector to store the metadata. See geli(8).

> > and it depends on exactly what you mean by "erase".
> 
> Destroy it so it's no longer aviable.
> 
> > Geli doesn't explicitly destroy your data at any point in the process.
> > However, most HOWTOs I've ready will tell you at some step or another
> > to overwrite the partition using dd and /dev/zero, which _does_
> > destroy the data.
> 
> Yes. That much I do know.
> 
> > Also, even if you skip the dd step, geli will alter the partition in
> > such a way that typical tools will not see the data.  However, if you
> > know your stuff, you can bypass normal tools and still read (part of?)
> > the data.
> 
> Not good.

Hence the advice to overwrite the partition with zeros beforehand.

> > If your question is, "I'm switching a partition to using geli, do I
> > need to back up my data before doing so?" the answer is YES!
> 
> I do NOT want to backup the data unencrypted.

Then get an encrypted backup. E.g. a disk with a USB connection that you
can encrypt and use it as back-up.

If you want to convert a filesystem in-place, I don't think that's
possible with the current tools. But it might be possible to create a
tool to do that. That tool should do the following:

initialize and attach the geli provider.
(daXs1a is the unencrypted partition)
(N is the number of sectors on that partition)
for k=1 to N-1 do
read sector k from device daXs1a
write sector k to device daXs1a.eli
done

Note that this is kinda fragile. One botched sector and there will be
trouble. It is also not optimized, because it will also encrypt sectors
that aren't in use in the original filesystem.

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Re: Disk usage analysis

[Tim Judd]

On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 9:21 PM, Adam Vande More wrote:

> Christopher Chambers wrote:
>
>> Is there an easy way to analyze disk usage to determine which files and
>> folders are taking up the most space?
>>
>>
>>
>>
> du -hd 1 | sort -n


du -kd 1 | sort -rn


Shows in ENV{BLOCKSIZE} the biggest directories first.  Bound to be / always
in this situation.  :D
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Re: Disk usage analysis

[Adam Vande More]

Christopher Chambers wrote:

Is there an easy way to analyze disk usage to determine which files and
folders are taking up the most space?


  

du -hd 1 | sort -n

http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=du&apropos=0&sektion=0&manpath=FreeBSD+7.1-RELEASE+and+Ports&format=html
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Disk usage analysis

[Robert Huff]

Christopher Chambers writes:

>  Is there an easy way to analyze disk usage to determine which
>  files and folders are taking up the most space?

If this isn't a FAQ, then search the mailing list archives.
This question, or something leading to it like "out of disk space",
comes up regularly.


Robert Huff

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Disk usage analysis

[Christopher Chambers]

Is there an easy way to analyze disk usage to determine which files and
folders are taking up the most space?


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Re: CD Burning

[ovi freebsd]

Christopher Chambers wrote:

I have found that burning software is unable to detect my cdrom. I would
assume that this is because acd0 is listed in fstab as read-only. I am
just a little worried that changing it to rw might wreck a cd (already
burnt) one day. Since cp or mv to /cdrom won't work, I guess my fear is
unjustified hey?


  

Here is a tutorial about CD-DVD Burning under FreeBSD:

http://www.freebsdonline.com/content/view/535/517/

What burning software you use?


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Re: Encrypted slice with geli

[Bernt Hansson]

Bill Moran said the following on 2009-04-21 14:41:

In response to Bernt Hansson :


Giorgos Keramidas said the following on 2009-04-20 23:59:

On Mon, 20 Apr 2009 21:38:54 +0200, Bernt Hansson  wrote:

Hello list!

I was thinking of makeing a slice encrypted with geli.

My question is: does geli init -s 4096 /dev/ad* erase the data on the
slice. The handbook didn't say yes or no, and I don't want to try
without asking.
No, 

No, what? does it erase the data or not.


It depends on exactly what part of the process you're talking about



My question is: does geli init -s 4096 /dev/ad* erase the data on the
slice


and it depends on exactly what you mean by "erase".


Destroy it so it's no longer aviable.


Geli doesn't explicitly destroy your data at any point in the process.
However, most HOWTOs I've ready will tell you at some step or another
to overwrite the partition using dd and /dev/zero, which _does_
destroy the data.


Yes. That much I do know.


Also, even if you skip the dd step, geli will alter the partition in
such a way that typical tools will not see the data.  However, if you
know your stuff, you can bypass normal tools and still read (part of?)
the data.


Not good.


If your question is, "I'm switching a partition to using geli, do I
need to back up my data before doing so?" the answer is YES!


I do NOT want to backup the data unencrypted.


But I want to keep the info on the slice.


Then you need to copy it elsewhere, then copy it back after the slice
is encrypted.


Dont have the space for that.

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Re: Sorting out owner and group permissions...

[Mister Olli]

Hi,

I understand your point. 

But since a application can modify it to a arbritary value there must be
some way to keep the app from doing nasty stuff.
FreeBSD has MAC implementations ;-)))

Regards,
---
Mr. Olli


On Di, 2009-04-21 at 17:02 +0200, Mel Flynn wrote:
> On Tuesday 21 April 2009 15:13:47 Mister Olli wrote:
> 
> > no does not work, since using SSH / SFTP does not involve starting a
> > shell. so umask settings don't work.
> 
> Then you're using the wrong system for the task. The OS can't make 
> assumptions 
> about "what the ownership/modes of a file should really be, if an application 
> is telling it they should be different".
> This is why more mature FTP daemons allow modes/ownerships to be set on 
> upload.
> 
> The OS already:
> - gives a new file group of the containing directory so it is easy to create 
> "shared files" in a "shared directory"
> - has a default umask that is world readable
> - allows changing a users umask
> 
> The application (sftp) overrides all this and now you're expecting the OS to 
> override that again. Don't think so ;)

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Re: Customized Remote Install

[Jerry McAllister]

On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 11:51:32PM +0200, Polytropon wrote:

> On Tue, 21 Apr 2009 14:42:32 -0600, Scott Seekamp  wrote:
> > My hope was that I could make an automated install CD/DVD that  
> > configured all the options I want AND change some base config files so  
> > I can actually get to the box (or install an SSH key).
> > [...]
> > I'm open to other options if someone has gone down this road before!
> 
> I'd like to advertize a method that I think is very comfortable
> in such a setting. It's worth mentioning that this method
> usually requires (a) modern enough PCs or (b) you to know what
> is the hardware profile of the PC.
> 
> The method works as follows:
> 
> First create a FreeBSD as you want it to be on the clients.
> Install and configure everything as you intend.
> 
> Then dump the created partitions onto a CD or DVD and create
> a simple script that:
>   1. initializes the client's hard disk
>   2. slices the disk and newfses the partitions
>   3. dumps the partition images onto the disks
>   4. reboots the machine into operating state.
> 
> After this, you should be able to SSH into the client and
> change settings that need to be changed.

This works very well.   I have done essentially the same many times.
The one thing missing is that you need to have something to set the
network information -- hostname, IP address, gateway, netmask
and name-server.These will be different for each machine.
So, your script will have to accomodate this - read console
input for these items and plug them in to the proper places
before rebooting.

jerry


> 
> You always have your "reference machine" at hand, because it's
> exactly installed and configured as the clients.
> 
> Under controlled conditions, it's even possible to build the
> needed system in a virtualized environment.
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: FreeBSD's interaction with MS-DOS partitions

[Wojciech Puchar]

ms-dos partition. For example, I attempted to download a torrent with
ctorrent. Works perfectly if I am saving to the bsd partition but my
whole system freezes if I use the ms-dos partition.

I mount it in /etc/fstab as "/dev/ad0s2 /d msdosfs rw 0 0"

Is this behaviour the result of the 0 0?


no. it's a result of ms-dos fs driver which is just useful to do 
read/write, even this isn't high performance ;)


mmap is probably buggy that's why rtorrent crash.
i don't think anyone really optimized this, not much need anyway.
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Re: Customized Remote Install

[Polytropon]

On Tue, 21 Apr 2009 14:42:32 -0600, Scott Seekamp  wrote:
> My hope was that I could make an automated install CD/DVD that  
> configured all the options I want AND change some base config files so  
> I can actually get to the box (or install an SSH key).
> [...]
> I'm open to other options if someone has gone down this road before!

I'd like to advertize a method that I think is very comfortable
in such a setting. It's worth mentioning that this method
usually requires (a) modern enough PCs or (b) you to know what
is the hardware profile of the PC.

The method works as follows:

First create a FreeBSD as you want it to be on the clients.
Install and configure everything as you intend.

Then dump the created partitions onto a CD or DVD and create
a simple script that:
1. initializes the client's hard disk
2. slices the disk and newfses the partitions
3. dumps the partition images onto the disks
4. reboots the machine into operating state.

After this, you should be able to SSH into the client and
change settings that need to be changed.

You always have your "reference machine" at hand, because it's
exactly installed and configured as the clients.

Under controlled conditions, it's even possible to build the
needed system in a virtualized environment.




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Customized Remote Install

[Scott Seekamp]

I've done a lot of searching and maybe this capability doesn't exist,  
but I am looking to do this:


I am at my company's HQ, we have a new field office that I am setting  
up a FreeBSD server. The technical knowledge at the site windows only,  
so I basically have someone I can have put a CD in a drive and power a  
machine on.


My problem is that the default install of FreeBSD has password  
authentication turned off, and root SSH disabled. Being a small  
office, they don't have a IP KVM or some way for me to get to the box  
to configure it.


My hope was that I could make an automated install CD/DVD that  
configured all the options I want AND change some base config files so  
I can actually get to the box (or install an SSH key).


I know I can do the scripted sysinstall, but from what I could find I  
would need a floppy or additional CD to put the answer file on.


I'm open to other options if someone has gone down this road before!

Thanks!

Scott Seekamp

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Re: Problems with Xorg after portupgrade

[Manolis Kiagias]

mv wrote:
> On Sun, 19 April 2009 03:14:35 Manolis Kiagias wrote:
>   
>>
>> The default screen when not running a WM/DE is no longer the familiar
>> screen pattern / X mouse pointer, but a black screen. Go figure...
>> You maybe having a working X and not know it.
>>
>> 
>
> I had the same issues starting and stopping X.  I was looking at a pitch 
> black screen and did not know if the server was running properly or 
> not.  After some digging around I found a new parameter which will 
> produce the traditional stipple with cursor in the center of the 
> screen:
>
>X -retro
>
> The above command plus the settings in xorg.conf about killing the 
> server with Ctrl+Atl+BS (specified elsewhere in this thread) will 
> produce a traditional startup and shutdown for X.
>
> Thank for all the useful tips
>
> Marek
>
>   
You can also use twm for testing. Have a look at

http://www.freebsdgr.org/handbook-mine/x-config.html

(soon to be integrated in the Handbook)

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Re: "No route to host" when trying to connect to FTP server on the Internet

[Chuck Swiger]

On Apr 21, 2009, at 1:35 PM, Redd Vinylene wrote:

I think I just got some help on IRC:

 is it on the local network of your firewall and not this  
computer?

 yes!
 thats why you can't connect to it

Suggestions on how to fix this problem using pf would be greatly  
appreciated though.


Many thanks!


The canonical method would be to set up split DNS, or even just add  
an /etc/hosts entry with the hostname listing the LAN IP rather than  
an external IP.


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Re: perl script failed at different stages

[Adam Vandemore]

Tsu-Fan Cheng wrote:

Hi,
   I guess this is not a REAL freebsd problem, but I am running a perl
script on freebsd7.0/perl 5.10 system. This script failed with
"segmentation fault" at different stages with different input files,
and sometimes the script actually finishes and gives the reasonable
output. So does this mean the script is fine, but others are at fault?
e.g. memory.. or..??  any advice is welcome.
  
If you suspect bad memory, best to replace w/ known good or test 
somewhere that is not a concern.  Bad hardware and memory especially can 
cause many many different unexpected symptoms, and can be tricky to run 
down.


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Re: CD Burning

[David Kelly]

On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 12:50:47PM -0700, Christopher Chambers wrote:
> I have found that burning software is unable to detect my cdrom.

*What* burning software?

/usr/sbin/burncd should recognize the drive.

If you are trying to run cdrecord then you need "device atapicam" added
to your kernel config. Try "cdrecord -scanbus" to learn how cdrecord
names your device.

> I would assume that this is because acd0 is listed in fstab as
> read-only.

/etc/fstab is a File System Table used for mounting filesystems. You are
a ways off just yet in having a filesystem on acd0 to mount.

> I am just a little worried that changing it to rw might wreck a cd
> (already burnt) one day. Since cp or mv to /cdrom won't work, I guess
> my fear is unjustified hey?

The OS doesn't know how to write/append an ISO 9660 filesystem so there
would be no possibility of attempting an accidental write to CDROM.

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Whom computers would destroy, they must first drive mad.
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Re: Preventing ntpd from adjusting time (backwards)

[RW]

On Tue, 21 Apr 2009 20:23:14 +0200
Mel Flynn  wrote:

> On Tuesday 21 April 2009 19:31:33 RW wrote:
> > On Tue, 21 Apr 2009 16:43:32 +0200
> >
> > Mel Flynn  wrote:
> > > On Tuesday 21 April 2009 16:20:52 RW wrote:
> > > > The bottom line though, is that ntpdate_enable=yes solves the
> > > > problem entirely, since the real problem is not the step, but
> > > > the fact that it happens in the background, and after a delay.
> > >
> > > Care to expand on that? Dovecot won't stop if root issues a date
> > > command that sets time to the past, for example?
> >
> > I was assuming that since you're running ntpd you wouldn't be doing
> > that.
> 
> Right, then this works because ntpdate is started before dovecot in
> rcorder, like Tim Judd said else in thread.

ntpdate and ntpd normally  start consecutively, both way before
Dovecot. The difference is that ntpdate runs in the foreground,
blocking the boot-process for a fraction of a second, but ntpd forks-off
into the background and takes a lot longer over making its initial
correction.

If you're dead set against using ntpdate, you could use the preferred
ntpd -gnq in it's place, at the expense of about 10 seconds of extra
boot time.

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perl script failed at different stages

[Tsu-Fan Cheng]

Hi,
   I guess this is not a REAL freebsd problem, but I am running a perl
script on freebsd7.0/perl 5.10 system. This script failed with
"segmentation fault" at different stages with different input files,
and sometimes the script actually finishes and gives the reasonable
output. So does this mean the script is fine, but others are at fault?
e.g. memory.. or..??  any advice is welcome.


TFC
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Re: "No route to host" when trying to connect to FTP server on the Internet

[Adam Vandemore]

Redd Vinylene wrote:

On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 9:13 PM, Chuck Swiger  wrote:

  

On Apr 21, 2009, at 11:40 AM, Redd Vinylene wrote:



I'm trying to connect to my friend's FTP server but I'm getting a "No
route
to host" when trying from my NAT workstation. It works just fine when I
connect from my NAT server though.

Internet -> NAT server (192.168.187.1) -> NAT workstation (192.168.187.2)

  

Presumably you should have a default route set?  (Check netstat -r.)  If
not, consider:

 route add default 192.168.187.1

Regards,
--
-Chuck




Yeah, the default route is set. Routing works just fine. In fact, it's been
working for years. It's just this one FTP server that it won't connect to.
  

For awhile I had been dealing with a sort similar issuesee here:

http://forums.freebsd.org/showthread.php?t=890

There where other issues with it as well but that was the most 
reproducible.  Also sshd didn't work to same remote host either.  I 
recently upgraded the server from 6.2 -> 7.1 including updated ports 
rebuild.  That fixed every nagging issue with the system including 
nat/routing stuff.  My best guess is there was some issues w/ pf in 6.2 
as no config files for application got changed including fw rules yet 
now it works.


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Re: "No route to host" when trying to connect to FTP server on the Internet

[Redd Vinylene]

On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 10:27 PM, Chuck Swiger  wrote:

> On Apr 21, 2009, at 1:25 PM, Redd Vinylene wrote:
>
>> Yeah, the default route is set. Routing works just fine. In fact, it's
>> been working for years. It's just this one FTP server that it won't connect
>> to.
>>
>
> Then it could be a legitimate error being returned by a remote router,
> also.  traceroute/mtr to the problematic host could be helpful
>
> --
> -Chuck
>
>
I think I just got some help on IRC:

 is it on the local network of your firewall and not this computer?
 yes!
 thats why you can't connect to it

Suggestions on how to fix this problem using pf would be greatly appreciated
though.

Many thanks!

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Re: CD Burning

[Rafał]

Hi Chris,

Setting cd as rw doesn't really make sense as you don't use filesystem 
tree to burn things on cds but use software that communicates with cd 
burner directly (through driver).


Problem with using cd burner is most probably because of access rights. 
Try running that burning software as root and if it works fine then 
you'll simply have to enable your user to use acd0.


Regards,
Rafal Grodzinski

Christopher Chambers wrote:

I have found that burning software is unable to detect my cdrom. I would
assume that this is because acd0 is listed in fstab as read-only. I am
just a little worried that changing it to rw might wreck a cd (already
burnt) one day. Since cp or mv to /cdrom won't work, I guess my fear is
unjustified hey?



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Re: "No route to host" when trying to connect to FTP server on the Internet

[Chuck Swiger]

On Apr 21, 2009, at 1:25 PM, Redd Vinylene wrote:
Yeah, the default route is set. Routing works just fine. In fact,  
it's been working for years. It's just this one FTP server that it  
won't connect to.


Then it could be a legitimate error being returned by a remote router,  
also.  traceroute/mtr to the problematic host could be helpful


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Re: "No route to host" when trying to connect to FTP server on the Internet

[Redd Vinylene]

On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 9:13 PM, Chuck Swiger  wrote:

> On Apr 21, 2009, at 11:40 AM, Redd Vinylene wrote:
>
>> I'm trying to connect to my friend's FTP server but I'm getting a "No
>> route
>> to host" when trying from my NAT workstation. It works just fine when I
>> connect from my NAT server though.
>>
>> Internet -> NAT server (192.168.187.1) -> NAT workstation (192.168.187.2)
>>
>
> Presumably you should have a default route set?  (Check netstat -r.)  If
> not, consider:
>
>  route add default 192.168.187.1
>
> Regards,
> --
> -Chuck
>
>
Yeah, the default route is set. Routing works just fine. In fact, it's been
working for years. It's just this one FTP server that it won't connect to.

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Re: Preventing ntpd from adjusting time (backwards)

[Mel Flynn]

On Tuesday 21 April 2009 21:07:34 Chuck Swiger wrote:

>  Try contacting your ISP for nearby NTP
> sources,

Anchorage, AK,  is special that way. I'll check with ACS if they have one, but 
if they don't, even traffic to the local competitor (GCI) goes through 
Seattle.

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Re: "No route to host" when trying to connect to FTP server on the Internet

[Chuck Swiger]

On Apr 21, 2009, at 11:40 AM, Redd Vinylene wrote:
I'm trying to connect to my friend's FTP server but I'm getting a  
"No route
to host" when trying from my NAT workstation. It works just fine  
when I

connect from my NAT server though.

Internet -> NAT server (192.168.187.1) -> NAT workstation  
(192.168.187.2)


Presumably you should have a default route set?  (Check netstat -r.)   
If not, consider:


  route add default 192.168.187.1

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FreeBSD's interaction with MS-DOS partitions

[Christopher Chambers]

Hi,

I have noticed that some programs have trouble interacting with my
ms-dos partition. For example, I attempted to download a torrent with
ctorrent. Works perfectly if I am saving to the bsd partition but my
whole system freezes if I use the ms-dos partition.

I mount it in /etc/fstab as "/dev/ad0s2 /d msdosfs rw 0 0"

Is this behaviour the result of the 0 0?


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Re: CD Burning

[Adam Vandemore]

Christopher Chambers wrote:

I have found that burning software is unable to detect my cdrom. I would
assume that this is because acd0 is listed in fstab as read-only. 

That is not correct.

I am
just a little worried that changing it to rw might wreck a cd (already
burnt) one day. 
This will not happen, burner won't engage on a disc w/ a closed session 
under normal circumstances.

Since cp or mv to /cdrom won't work, I guess my fear is
unjustified hey?
  
not really, you should checkout the man pages for burncd, and cdrecord 
and the appropriate section in the handbook.


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CD Burning

[Christopher Chambers]

I have found that burning software is unable to detect my cdrom. I would
assume that this is because acd0 is listed in fstab as read-only. I am
just a little worried that changing it to rw might wreck a cd (already
burnt) one day. Since cp or mv to /cdrom won't work, I guess my fear is
unjustified hey?


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"No route to host" when trying to connect to FTP server on the Internet

[Redd Vinylene]

Hi,

I'm trying to connect to my friend's FTP server but I'm getting a "No route
to host" when trying from my NAT workstation. It works just fine when I
connect from my NAT server though.

Internet -> NAT server (192.168.187.1) -> NAT workstation (192.168.187.2)

I've been suggested ftp-proxy. It didn't work though. You can see my setup
and hopefully other relevant info here: http://pastie.org/453644

Thanks!

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Re: Preventing ntpd from adjusting time (backwards)

[Chuck Swiger]

On Apr 21, 2009, at 11:57 AM, Mel Flynn wrote:
[ ... -x option... ]

Hmm, that might work. Thanks!


Sure.


It should be surprising that your clock would jump by 6 seconds.  Do
you have adequate upstream timesources (ie, at least 4) configured,  
is

your local HW clock busted somehow, or are you doing something odd
with power-savings mode or running in a VM or something...?


One timesource, shared on local network, this machine is a client of  
the
gateway, which uses only one source (ntp.alaska.edu, which is  
geographically
10 minutes by car but thanks to Alaska bad peering, we go through  
Seattle
anyway). I checked the logs, that machine didn't step at all that  
day (or any
other day, as far as my logs go). It always happens after reboot, as  
Matthew
indicated. No VM, no power-savings. The only odd things are  
Hyperthreading and

the reboot.


OK, a step upon boot is not unusual-- some machines have poor  
timekeeping with the internal BIOS/battery-backed clock used when the  
system is off.


Note that NTP falseticker detection really wants to have at least 4  
timesources available for the algorithm it uses to detect whether an  
NTP source is behaving poorly.  Try contacting your ISP for nearby NTP  
sources, or try adding 0.us.pool.ntp.org, 1.us..., & 2.us... to your  
config; the NTP pool nameservers use a geolocation mechanism to some  
extent to try and return NTP servers which are close.


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Re: Preventing ntpd from adjusting time (backwards)

[Mel Flynn]

On Tuesday 21 April 2009 19:43:30 Chuck Swiger wrote:
> Hi, Mel--
>
> On Apr 21, 2009, at 2:06 AM, Mel Flynn wrote:
> > Some coarse reading of ntpd(8) and ntp.conf(5) doesn't lead me to
> > believe it's
> > possible to make ntpd *not* adjust the time. With adjust I don't
> > mean the skew
> > operation, but really change the time.
>
> Perhaps I've missed it elsewhere in this thread, but I don't believe
> anyone actually answered the original question, which would be to use:
>
> -x, --slew
>Slew up to 600 seconds.
>
>Normally, the time is slewed if the offset is less than the
> step
>threshold,  which is 128 ms by default, and stepped if
> above the
>threshold.  This option sets the threshold to 600  s,
> which  is
>well  within  the  accuracy  window  to  set the clock
> manually.

Hmm, that might work. Thanks!


> It should be surprising that your clock would jump by 6 seconds.  Do
> you have adequate upstream timesources (ie, at least 4) configured, is
> your local HW clock busted somehow, or are you doing something odd
> with power-savings mode or running in a VM or something...?

One timesource, shared on local network, this machine is a client of the 
gateway, which uses only one source (ntp.alaska.edu, which is geographically 
10 minutes by car but thanks to Alaska bad peering, we go through Seattle 
anyway). I checked the logs, that machine didn't step at all that day (or any 
other day, as far as my logs go). It always happens after reboot, as Matthew 
indicated. No VM, no power-savings. The only odd things are Hyperthreading and 
the reboot.

Well, I abuse the machine quite heavily from time to time, but then I'd expect 
the clock to be slow, not 6 seconds faster.
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Re: Sudden /libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Shared object "libintl.so.8" not found, required by errors

[Michael Powell]

Agus wrote:

[snip]
>> What is the output of "ldconfig -r" ?
>>
>>
> 
> Sorry for the delay.. was too busyy...
> 
> No output... just this
> 
> ldconfig -r
> /var/run/ld-elf.so.hints:
> search directories:
> 

Sounds like the hints file is missing or damaged. These live here: 
/var/run/ld.so.hints for a.out and /var/run/ld-elf.so.hints for elf format. 
Look and see if these are present, and possibly consider deleting them and 
regenerating due to the possibility they are damaged. As root the command 
ldconfig -aout will do the first (probably not needed as that format is 
deprecated) and ldconfig -elf will do the second. 

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Re: Problems with Xorg after portupgrade

[mv]

On Sun, 19 April 2009 03:14:35 Manolis Kiagias wrote:
> Ivan "Rambius" Ivanov wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > This week upgraded my Acer TravelMate 4060 laptop from FreeBSD 7.0
> > to FreeBSD 7.1 and also csup'ed my ports and portupgraded them and
> > I am not able to start X correctly. When I invoke startx, it tries
> > to start it and then the screen goes blank and black, nothing is
> > seen on it and I am no able to kill X using ctrl-alt-backspace or
> > swtich to another terminal and I have to cold reboot my machine.
> >
> > uname -r shows 7.1-RELEASE-p4
> >
> > The version of xorg metaport is 7.4_1, the version of xorg-server
> > is 1.6.0,1.
> >
> > After I did the portupgrade I rebooted my machine and the KDE
> > display manager failed to appear, so I disabled it from /etc/ttys
> > for easier debugging. After I logged in to a shell, I called startx
> > and the screen went blank and black. After I rebooted the machine I
> > invoked
> >
> > X -configure
> >
> > as root and run
> >
> > X -config /root/xorg.conf.new
> >
> > and again the same problem.
>
> The default screen when not running a WM/DE is no longer the familiar
> screen pattern / X mouse pointer, but a black screen. Go figure...
> You maybe having a working X and not know it.
> 

I had the same issues starting and stopping X.  I was looking at a pitch 
black screen and did not know if the server was running properly or 
not.  After some digging around I found a new parameter which will 
produce the traditional stipple with cursor in the center of the 
screen:

   X -retro

The above command plus the settings in xorg.conf about killing the 
server with Ctrl+Atl+BS (specified elsewhere in this thread) will 
produce a traditional startup and shutdown for X.

Thank for all the useful tips

Marek

> > I then tried to make ctrl-alt-backspace
> > work and I added the following section at the end of
> > /root/xorg.conf.new
> >
> > Section "ServerFlags"
> > Option "DontZap" "off"
> > EndSection
>
> This should definitely work.
>
> > and called X -config /root/xorg.conf.new again - same results and
> > still could not kill ther server. I followed /usr/ports/UPDATING,
> > entry from 20090123 and disabled moused and added
> >
> > Option "AllowEmptyInput" "off"
>
> Browsing your xorg.conf, you forgot to add the keyword "Option" in
> front of "AllowEmptyInput". And actually this should also go the
> "ServerFlags" section.
>
> > in the ServerLayout section. Again X refuses to start
> > appropriately.
> >
> > I would be very grateful if you help me in resolving this issue.
> >
> > I am attaching my xorg.conf file and the logs from
> > /var/log/Xorg.0.log and I will happily provide more information if
> > needed.
> >
> > Thank you very much in advance.
> >
> > Regards
> > Rambius
>
> You can download my working xorg.conf from here:
>
> http://store.itsyourftp.com/~sonic2000gr/freebsd/xorg.conf.tar.gz
>
> It even includes some comments. Give it a try.
>
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Re: IPFW/Dummynet/Bridging with VLAN trunks?

[Chris Cowart]

Howard Jones wrote:
> I'm trying to use Dummynet+IPFW and bridging to make a packet shaper
> that runs across multiple VLANs. So my intended set up is:
> 
> [users]->[Aggregate Switch]=>[FreeBSD]=>[Upstream Switch (with IP
> interfaces for each vlan)]->The World
> 
> where -> is a single VLAN, and => is a tagged dot1q trunk. The aim is to
> drop the FreeBSD box in the middle, in one trunked uplink, and cover all
> the VLANs downstream of that.
> 
> Should this work?
> 
> In practice, the bridging seems to work OK, but as soon as I add rules
> to match traffic passing through and apply it to pipes, everything
> stops. I can use tcpdump's vlan option to filter traffic on em0, em1 or
> bridge0 and it does show only traffic for that vlan, so tags are being
> preserved...
> 
> Ideally, I'd like to use the dot1q tag in ipfw rules directly, and avoid
> ip ranges, but I don't think that's possible. Is there some special
> incantation to make ipfw vlan-aware?
> 
> Has anyone else done this successfully?

This is how I do it:

ipfw pipe 1 all from any to any in via vlan20
ipfw pipe 2 all from any to any in via vlan40 

But in my configuration, bridge0 has members vlan20 and vlan40. I would
create a separate bridge with vlan21 and vlan41. 

I don't think ipfw can filter on dot1q tags yet, though. There was a lot
of layer 2 filtering capability in a patch floating around for
8-CURRENT, but I'm not sure of its status, nor whether dot1q filtering
was implemented.

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Re: Preventing ntpd from adjusting time (backwards)

[Chuck Swiger]

On Apr 21, 2009, at 11:33 AM, Mel Flynn wrote:

On Tuesday 21 April 2009 20:29:18 Chuck Swiger wrote:

On Apr 21, 2009, at 11:23 AM, Mel Flynn wrote:

Now I'm also wondering how ntpd handles securelevel 2.


"man init" suggests that stepping the clock by more than a second is
disallowed:


yes, so does it bail or retry till skew wins over the failed steps?


The attempt to step the clock will fail.  ntpd should continue to run,  
but the rate of skewing is typically limited to 1 second of correction  
over a time interval of 2000 seconds.  If your clock routinely drifts  
by more than 1 second every hour or so, ntpd is unlikely to be able to  
correct the time at all under securelevel 2.


If your clock drift is less, ntpd should eventually manage to sync  
time, but for extreme cases, running ntpdate periodically to forcibly  
reset the clock might be needed (and to run ntpdate after boot, you'd  
need to back down to securelevel 1).


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Re: Preventing ntpd from adjusting time (backwards)

[Mel Flynn]

On Tuesday 21 April 2009 20:29:18 Chuck Swiger wrote:
> On Apr 21, 2009, at 11:23 AM, Mel Flynn wrote:
> > Now I'm also wondering how ntpd handles securelevel 2.
>
> "man init" suggests that stepping the clock by more than a second is
> disallowed:

yes, so does it bail or retry till skew wins over the failed steps?
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Re: Sudden /libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Shared object "libintl.so.8" not found, required by errors

[Mel Flynn]

On Tuesday 21 April 2009 19:33:37 Agus wrote:
> 2009/4/14 Ruben de Groot :
> > On Fri, Apr 10, 2009 at 08:40:51PM -0300, Agus typed:
> >> Hi guys,
> >>
> >> Yesterday i suddenly start receiving this errors... first i noticed it
> >> cause i couldnt login and bash threw it.. then su...
> >>
> >> /libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Shared object "libintl.so.8" not found, required
> >> by "-su"
> >>
> >> Then i remove bash and change to tcsh and was "ok"... but then again,
> >> this one when using sendmail..
> >>
> >> /libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Shared object "libsasl2.so.2" not found,
> >> required by "send-mail"
> >>
> >>
> >> I didnt update anything... and it was all running fine for months...
> >> what can it be? the files i have are..
> >>
> >> -rwxr-xr-x  1 root  wheel92K Mar 11 15:26 libsasl2.so.2
> >> lrwxr-xr-x  1 root  wheel13B Mar 11 15:26 libsasl2.so ->
> >> libsasl2.so.2
> >>
> >> -r--r--r--  1 root  wheel39K Aug 23  2008 libintl.so.8
> >> lrwxr-xr-x  1 root  wheel12B Aug 23  2008 libintl.so -> libintl.so.8
> >
> > What is the output of "ldconfig -r" ?
>
> Sorry for the delay.. was too busyy...
>
> No output... just this
>
> ldconfig -r
> /var/run/ld-elf.so.hints:
>   search directories:

Possible causes:
/var/run/ld-elf.so.hints is reduced to 0 by program foo, operator bar or 
hacker baz.
You or operator bar ran ldconfig -s without arguments.

/rescue/ldconfig /lib
/etc/rc.d/ldconfig start

Should get you back up and running.
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Re: Preventing ntpd from adjusting time (backwards)

[Chuck Swiger]

On Apr 21, 2009, at 11:23 AM, Mel Flynn wrote:

Now I'm also wondering how ntpd handles securelevel 2.


"man init" suggests that stepping the clock by more than a second is  
disallowed:


   2 Highly secure mode - same as secure mode, plus disks may not  
be
 opened for writing (except by mount(2)) whether mounted or  
not.

 This level precludes tampering with file systems by unmounting
 them, but also inhibits running newfs(8) while the system is  
multi-

 user.

 In addition, kernel time changes are restricted to less than  
or
 equal to one second.  Attempts to change the time by more  
than this

 will log the message ``Time adjustment clamped to +1 second''.

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Re: Preventing ntpd from adjusting time (backwards)

[Mel Flynn]

On Tuesday 21 April 2009 19:31:33 RW wrote:
> On Tue, 21 Apr 2009 16:43:32 +0200
>
> Mel Flynn  wrote:
> > On Tuesday 21 April 2009 16:20:52 RW wrote:
> > > The bottom line though, is that ntpdate_enable=yes solves the
> > > problem entirely, since the real problem is not the step, but the
> > > fact that it happens in the background, and after a delay.
> >
> > Care to expand on that? Dovecot won't stop if root issues a date
> > command that sets time to the past, for example?
>
> I was assuming that since you're running ntpd you wouldn't be doing
> that.

Right, then this works because ntpdate is started before dovecot in rcorder, 
like Tim Judd said else in thread.

> > > ntpdate may be deprecated, but it's been deprecated for years, and I
> > > doubt it will go away until ntpd fully replaces it's functionality.
> > > ntpd -gq can replace ntpdate in a crontab, but ntpd -gqn doesn't
> > > really replace ntpdate -b in the boot-sequence.
> >
> > I'm actually counting on it to be gone in 8.0.
>
> Is that official?

Nope, but 3 major releases of mourning should be enough ya think? 
Maybe not, given the problems above.

Now I'm also wondering how ntpd handles securelevel 2.
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Re: Correct use of fsck_msdosfs

[Matthew Seaman]

Even Rognlien wrote:

Good afternoon,

We are using fsck_msdosfs in one of our products, and are trying to
comply with the conditions in the correct way. We get a bit confused
with the copyright notices, and hopy you are able to clarify this for
us. Inside the source files found at
http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/src/sbin/fsck_msdosfs/ , we find
the following copyright text


You do understand that the freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list is not
an official mouthpiece for the FreeBSD project, but rather a collection of FreeBSD 
users from all round the world?  We can offer advice and opinions about your

questions, but we can't give you a definitive answer.  If your legal people 
need something more authoritative, probably the best place to start is with the 
FreeBSD foundation: http://www.freebsdfoundation.org



***
/*
 * Copyright (C) 1995 Wolfgang Solfrank
 * Copyright (c) 1995 Martin Husemann
 *
 * Redistribution and use in source and binary forms, with or without
 * modification, are permitted provided that the following conditions
 * are met:
 * 1. Redistributions of source code must retain the above copyright
 *notice, this list of conditions and the following disclaimer.
 * 2. Redistributions in binary form must reproduce the above copyright
 *notice, this list of conditions and the following disclaimer in
the
 *documentation and/or other materials provided with the
distribution.
 * 3. All advertising materials mentioning features or use of this
software
 *must display the following acknowledgement:
 *  This product includes software developed by Martin Husemann
 *  and Wolfgang Solfrank.
 * 4. Neither the name of the University nor the names of its
contributors
 *may be used to endorse or promote products derived from this
software
 *without specific prior written permission.
 *
 * THIS SOFTWARE IS PROVIDED BY THE AUTHORS ``AS IS'' AND ANY EXPRESS OR
 * IMPLIED WARRANTIES, INCLUDING, BUT NOT LIMITED TO, THE IMPLIED
WARRANTIES
 * OF MERCHANTABILITY AND FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE ARE
DISCLAIMED.
 * IN NO EVENT SHALL THE AUTHORS BE LIABLE FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT,
 * INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, EXEMPLARY, OR CONSEQUENTIAL DAMAGES (INCLUDING,
BUT
 * NOT LIMITED TO, PROCUREMENT OF SUBSTITUTE GOODS OR SERVICES; LOSS OF
USE,
 * DATA, OR PROFITS; OR BUSINESS INTERRUPTION) HOWEVER CAUSED AND ON ANY
 * THEORY OF LIABILITY, WHETHER IN CONTRACT, STRICT LIABILITY, OR TORT
 * (INCLUDING NEGLIGENCE OR OTHERWISE) ARISING IN ANY WAY OUT OF THE USE
OF
 * THIS SOFTWARE, EVEN IF ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF SUCH DAMAGE.
 */

**


Then, under the Free BSD Legal Notices, under which it seems that
fsck_msdosfs resides, we find the following FreeBSD Copyright notice:



**

Copyright 1994-2009 The FreeBSD Project. All rights reserved.

Redistribution and use in source and binary forms, with or without
modification, are permitted provided that the following conditions are
met:

1. Redistributions of source code must retain the above copyright
notice, this list of conditions and the following disclaimer. 
2. Redistributions in binary form must reproduce the above copyright

notice, this list of conditions and the following disclaimer in the
documentation and/or other materials provided with the distribution. 


THIS SOFTWARE IS PROVIDED BY THE FREEBSD PROJECT ``AS IS'' AND ANY
EXPRESS OR IMPLIED WARRANTIES, INCLUDING, BUT NOT LIMITED TO, THE
IMPLIED WARRANTIES OF MERCHANTABILITY AND FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR
PURPOSE ARE DISCLAIMED. IN NO EVENT SHALL THE FREEBSD PROJECT OR
CONTRIBUTORS BE LIABLE FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL,
EXEMPLARY, OR CONSEQUENTIAL DAMAGES (INCLUDING, BUT NOT LIMITED TO,
PROCUREMENT OF SUBSTITUTE GOODS OR SERVICES; LOSS OF USE, DATA, OR
PROFITS; OR BUSINESS INTERRUPTION) HOWEVER CAUSED AND ON ANY THEORY OF
LIABILITY, WHETHER IN CONTRACT, STRICT LIABILITY, OR TORT (INCLUDING
NEGLIGENCE OR OTHERWISE) ARISING IN ANY WAY OUT OF THE USE OF THIS
SOFTWARE, EVEN IF ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF SUCH DAMAGE.

The views and conclusions contained in the software and documentation
are those of the authors and should not be interpreted as representing
official policies, either expressed or implied, of the FreeBSD Project.


**

How do these two copyright texts relate to each other, and how do we use
them in the correct way? This is particularly relevant to sort out when
we do redistribution in binary, where the copyright text needs to be
provide

Re: Preventing ntpd from adjusting time (backwards)

[Chuck Swiger]

Hi, Mel--

On Apr 21, 2009, at 2:06 AM, Mel Flynn wrote:
Some coarse reading of ntpd(8) and ntp.conf(5) doesn't lead me to  
believe it's
possible to make ntpd *not* adjust the time. With adjust I don't  
mean the skew

operation, but really change the time.


Perhaps I've missed it elsewhere in this thread, but I don't believe  
anyone actually answered the original question, which would be to use:


   -x, --slew
  Slew up to 600 seconds.

  Normally, the time is slewed if the offset is less than the  
step
  threshold,  which is 128 ms by default, and stepped if  
above the
  threshold.  This option sets the threshold to 600  s,   
which  is
  well  within  the  accuracy  window  to  set the clock  
manually.

[ ... ]

It should be surprising that your clock would jump by 6 seconds.  Do  
you have adequate upstream timesources (ie, at least 4) configured, is  
your local HW clock busted somehow, or are you doing something odd  
with power-savings mode or running in a VM or something...?


Regards,
--
-Chuck

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Re: Atom 330 testing

[Warren Block]

On Tue, 21 Apr 2009, P.Moulin wrote:


Testing a mini-ITX Intel D945GCLF2 motherboard with Atom 330 processor.


Hi, [sorry to re-open this one month old thread]

I have also this D945GCLF2. All is running nearly fine, but on heavy load
and after the system is powered up for a couple of days, it panics.

The system is running 7.1-RC1 (7th dec 2008) as a Generic kernel, and a
gmirrored WDC+seagate backup drive. The bios is still in 99 release.

Since I have read some is using also this board as an home server, does
someone else is also having this issue (panic under heavy load when up for a 
few days) ?


Just as feedback, the board I was testing eventually refused to power 
on.  So that test ended there.


-Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA
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Re: Sudden /libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Shared object "libintl.so.8" not found, required by errors

[Agus]

2009/4/14 Ruben de Groot :
> On Fri, Apr 10, 2009 at 08:40:51PM -0300, Agus typed:
>> Hi guys,
>>
>> Yesterday i suddenly start receiving this errors... first i noticed it
>> cause i couldnt login and bash threw it.. then su...
>>
>> /libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Shared object "libintl.so.8" not found, required by 
>> "-su"
>>
>> Then i remove bash and change to tcsh and was "ok"... but then again,
>> this one when using sendmail..
>>
>> /libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Shared object "libsasl2.so.2" not found,
>> required by "send-mail"
>>
>>
>> I didnt update anything... and it was all running fine for months...
>> what can it be? the files i have are..
>>
>> -rwxr-xr-x  1 root  wheel    92K Mar 11 15:26 libsasl2.so.2
>> lrwxr-xr-x  1 root  wheel    13B Mar 11 15:26 libsasl2.so -> libsasl2.so.2
>>
>> -r--r--r--  1 root  wheel    39K Aug 23  2008 libintl.so.8
>> lrwxr-xr-x  1 root  wheel    12B Aug 23  2008 libintl.so -> libintl.so.8
>
> What is the output of "ldconfig -r" ?
>
>

Sorry for the delay.. was too busyy...

No output... just this

ldconfig -r
/var/run/ld-elf.so.hints:
search directories:

Thanksss,
Agustin
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Re: Preventing ntpd from adjusting time (backwards)

[RW]

On Tue, 21 Apr 2009 16:43:32 +0200
Mel Flynn  wrote:

> On Tuesday 21 April 2009 16:20:52 RW wrote:
> 
> > The bottom line though, is that ntpdate_enable=yes solves the
> > problem entirely, since the real problem is not the step, but the
> > fact that it happens in the background, and after a delay.
> 
> Care to expand on that? Dovecot won't stop if root issues a date
> command that sets time to the past, for example?

I was assuming that since you're running ntpd you wouldn't be doing
that.
 
> > ntpdate may be deprecated, but it's been deprecated for years, and I
> > doubt it will go away until ntpd fully replaces it's functionality.
> > ntpd -gq can replace ntpdate in a crontab, but ntpd -gqn doesn't
> > really replace ntpdate -b in the boot-sequence.
> 
> I'm actually counting on it to be gone in 8.0.

Is that official?
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No sound with in Gnome gtk programs, qt programs do have sound

[Aniruddha]

I can't get any sound with programs such as mplayer and exaile. However 
vlc (qt) and Gnash have working sound (on the same desktop!). Gnome's 
soundmixer doesn't recognize my soundcard (intel_hda). This appears to 
be the problem. I searched the FreeBSD Gnome project page but didn't 
find a answer. Any ideas what might be wrong?

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Re: Compiling FreeBSD with GCC 4.3+

[David Naylor]

On Tuesday 21 April 2009 17:58:15 Mel Flynn wrote:
> On Tuesday 21 April 2009 17:37:50 David Naylor wrote:
> > On Tuesday 21 April 2009 10:32:04 Mel Flynn wrote:
> > > Hi David,
> > >
> > > On Monday 20 April 2009 21:48:39 David Naylor wrote:
> > > > There has been an article recently published by phoronix
> > > > (http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=pcbsd_vs_kubuntu&;
> > > >nu m= 1) that compares PC-BSD to Kubuntu.  Kubuntu uses GCC 4.3.3
> > > > compared to FreeBSD's GCC 4.2.2.  There is a considerable performance
> > > > difference between the two OS's, the article contributes this
> > > > difference to the compiler.
> > >
> > > Nice shot in the dark, since except the calculations a lot of these are
> > > influenced by "journaled FS vs stock UFS".
> >
> > I know, benchmarking anything but the simplest things are influenced by
> > too many factors.  Pity it doesn't provide an unbiased comparison of
> > FreeBSD and Linux.
>
> That and comparing apples and pears as default configured fruit, don't
> usually work well. Of course it appeals to the end user "which fruit is
> healthier".

:-)

> > > > In order to check if this is so (and to get the speed improvements of
> > > > GCC 4.3+) one needs to compile the ports (and preferable world/kernel
> > > > as well) with GCC 4.3+.
> > >
> > > It's license is incompatible with world/kernel.
> >
> > What type of incompatibility.  I know FreeBSD has reservations about
> > GPLv3 (I personally don't understand why everyone cannot be friends and
> > use BSD Licenses).  So is this a policy incompatibility or a legal one
> > (i.e. would it be 'illegal' for me to use GCC 4.3+ to compile
> > world/kernel, as an end-user/consumer of FreeBSD).  I assume the same
> > discussion applies to binutils.
>
> Policy. Only legal issue in FreeBSD for the end user is WITH_IDEA.

Thanks for sorting that out.  Good news for me.

> > > That said, install
> > > lang/gcc43 and set CC/CXX for ports. World/kernel would be a lot
> > > harder. Maybe setting WITHOUT_GCC in /etc/src.conf and setting CC/CXX
> > > would work, but there's quite a few modifications to gcc that aren't in
> > > ports lang/gcc, so I have my doubts.
> >
> > I suppose it would be nice if there was an easy way to use an
> > out-of-source compiler in FreeBSD.  Like set PORTS_COMPILER=gcc43 and the
> > port will installed and used... One may have dreams.
>
> cat <<'EOF' >> /etc/make.conf
> .if !empty(.CURDIR:M/usr/ports/*)
> CC=/usr/local/bin/gcc43
> CXX=/usr/local/bin/g++43
> .endif
> EOF
>
> Pretty close, huh?

Kinda, it is what I was thinking about (or just symlinking cc, cxx to the 
proper programs).  Of course if this is implemented 'properly' in ports then 
auto-dependencies and all that will be added.  

I was actually thinking about replacing the standard compiler by
a) not installing gcc 4.2.2 (i think WITHOUT_GCC, as mentioned by yourself)
b) installing latest gcc: 
# make -C /usr/ports/lang/gcc43 install DESTDIR=/new/freebsd/system 
PREFIX=/usr -DWITHOUT_JAVA
 [ With symlinks from gcc43 -> gcc, etc]
c) Hoping this works

Well something like that (with extra hope)

> > > > Is there an easy way to set this up and does anyone know the
> > > > compatibility of world/kernel/ports with GCC 4.3+?
> > > >
> > > > Also has anyone tried this and benchmarked the result?
> > >
> > > Not me, but be sure to stick around for the new non-gcc compiler coming
> > > to a FreeBSD near you. And with the work done by Marcel Molenaar on
> > > gpart, hopefully we can have ZFS and gjournal as choices in the
> > > installer.
> >
> > You mean llvm, waiting patiently.  I suppose my suggestion above will
> > become even more important (at least for compiling ports) since it will
> > be a while till llvm has decent c++ support.
>
> Yeah, I don't know how that's gonna work if llvm is ready for base, but no
> c++. I guess we'll have to sit out g++ 4.2 for a while. If you're in the
> position to do so, I'd do their benchmarks with ZFS and see how much
> difference that already makes.

Well, llvm does support C++ (with the gcc frontend) so that shouldn't be too 
much of a problem.  clang is more of the issue but I suppose we could always 
have llvm-clang for C and llvm-gcc for C++ (until clang gets full C++ 
support).  


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Re: Problems watching video with the Radeon HD 3850

[A. D. Plas]

Roland Smith wrote:

On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 09:35:45PM +0200, Aniruddha wrote:
  

Roland Smith wrote:


For the best performance, you'll have to update to a recent 7-STABLE, or
wait for the upcoming 7.2 release. The kernel support code for graphics
chips has been updated since the release of 7.1. 

  
  
Thanks I'll try that. What's the recommended way to upgrade nowadays? 
freebsd-update or still cvsup/portupgrade?



Well, freebsd-update is only for the base system (binary updates) while
the cvsup/portupgrade combo is for ports.

I tend to update the sources and recompile, so I can use src.conf and
make.conf to customise the base system and ports.

For the base system: csup (not a typo, it's a replacement in the base
system for the cvsup port). For ports, a combination of portsnap to
update the ports tree, and portmaster to recompile out-of-date ports.


  
I upgraded to the latest Xserver, 2d acceleration does seem a bit 
improved unfortunately it still isn't optimal. I guess I'd better buy an 
Nvidia card.

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Re: Compiling FreeBSD with GCC 4.3+

[Mel Flynn]

On Tuesday 21 April 2009 17:37:50 David Naylor wrote:
> On Tuesday 21 April 2009 10:32:04 Mel Flynn wrote:
> > Hi David,
> >
> > On Monday 20 April 2009 21:48:39 David Naylor wrote:
> > > There has been an article recently published by phoronix
> > > (http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=pcbsd_vs_kubuntu&nu
> > >m= 1) that compares PC-BSD to Kubuntu.  Kubuntu uses GCC 4.3.3 compared
> > > to FreeBSD's GCC 4.2.2.  There is a considerable performance difference
> > > between the two OS's, the article contributes this difference to the
> > > compiler.
> >
> > Nice shot in the dark, since except the calculations a lot of these are
> > influenced by "journaled FS vs stock UFS".
>
> I know, benchmarking anything but the simplest things are influenced by too
> many factors.  Pity it doesn't provide an unbiased comparison of FreeBSD
> and Linux.

That and comparing apples and pears as default configured fruit, don't usually 
work well. Of course it appeals to the end user "which fruit is healthier".

> > > In order to check if this is so (and to get the speed improvements of
> > > GCC 4.3+) one needs to compile the ports (and preferable world/kernel
> > > as well) with GCC 4.3+.
> >
> > It's license is incompatible with world/kernel.
>
> What type of incompatibility.  I know FreeBSD has reservations about GPLv3
> (I personally don't understand why everyone cannot be friends and use BSD
> Licenses).  So is this a policy incompatibility or a legal one (i.e. would
> it be 'illegal' for me to use GCC 4.3+ to compile world/kernel, as an
> end-user/consumer of FreeBSD).  I assume the same discussion applies to
> binutils.

Policy. Only legal issue in FreeBSD for the end user is WITH_IDEA.

> > That said, install
> > lang/gcc43 and set CC/CXX for ports. World/kernel would be a lot harder.
> > Maybe setting WITHOUT_GCC in /etc/src.conf and setting CC/CXX would work,
> > but there's quite a few modifications to gcc that aren't in ports
> > lang/gcc, so I have my doubts.
>
> I suppose it would be nice if there was an easy way to use an out-of-source
> compiler in FreeBSD.  Like set PORTS_COMPILER=gcc43 and the port will
> installed and used... One may have dreams.

cat <<'EOF' >> /etc/make.conf
.if !empty(.CURDIR:M/usr/ports/*)
CC=/usr/local/bin/gcc43
CXX=/usr/local/bin/g++43
.endif
EOF

Pretty close, huh?

> > > Is there an easy way to set this up and does anyone know the
> > > compatibility of world/kernel/ports with GCC 4.3+?
> > >
> > > Also has anyone tried this and benchmarked the result?
> >
> > Not me, but be sure to stick around for the new non-gcc compiler coming
> > to a FreeBSD near you. And with the work done by Marcel Molenaar on
> > gpart, hopefully we can have ZFS and gjournal as choices in the
> > installer.
>
> You mean llvm, waiting patiently.  I suppose my suggestion above will
> become even more important (at least for compiling ports) since it will be
> a while till llvm has decent c++ support.

Yeah, I don't know how that's gonna work if llvm is ready for base, but no 
c++. I guess we'll have to sit out g++ 4.2 for a while. If you're in the 
position to do so, I'd do their benchmarks with ZFS and see how much 
difference that already makes.
-- 
Mel
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Re: Compiling FreeBSD with GCC 4.3+

[David Naylor]

On Tuesday 21 April 2009 10:32:04 Mel Flynn wrote:
> Hi David,
>
> On Monday 20 April 2009 21:48:39 David Naylor wrote:
> > There has been an article recently published by phoronix
> > (http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=pcbsd_vs_kubuntu&num=
> >1) that compares PC-BSD to Kubuntu.  Kubuntu uses GCC 4.3.3 compared to
> > FreeBSD's GCC 4.2.2.  There is a considerable performance difference
> > between the two OS's, the article contributes this difference to the
> > compiler.
>
> Nice shot in the dark, since except the calculations a lot of these are
> influenced by "journaled FS vs stock UFS".

I know, benchmarking anything but the simplest things are influenced by too 
many factors.  Pity it doesn't provide an unbiased comparison of FreeBSD and 
Linux.  

> > In order to check if this is so (and to get the speed improvements of GCC
> > 4.3+) one needs to compile the ports (and preferable world/kernel as
> > well) with GCC 4.3+.
>
> It's license is incompatible with world/kernel. 

What type of incompatibility.  I know FreeBSD has reservations about GPLv3 (I 
personally don't understand why everyone cannot be friends and use BSD 
Licenses).  So is this a policy incompatibility or a legal one (i.e. would it 
be 'illegal' for me to use GCC 4.3+ to compile world/kernel, as an 
end-user/consumer of FreeBSD).  I assume the same discussion applies to 
binutils.  

> That said, install 
> lang/gcc43 and set CC/CXX for ports. World/kernel would be a lot harder.
> Maybe setting WITHOUT_GCC in /etc/src.conf and setting CC/CXX would work,
> but there's quite a few modifications to gcc that aren't in ports lang/gcc,
> so I have my doubts.

I suppose it would be nice if there was an easy way to use an out-of-source 
compiler in FreeBSD.  Like set PORTS_COMPILER=gcc43 and the port will 
installed and used... One may have dreams.  

> > Is there an easy way to set this up and does anyone know the
> > compatibility of world/kernel/ports with GCC 4.3+?
> >
> > Also has anyone tried this and benchmarked the result?
>
> Not me, but be sure to stick around for the new non-gcc compiler coming to
> a FreeBSD near you. And with the work done by Marcel Molenaar on gpart,
> hopefully we can have ZFS and gjournal as choices in the installer.

You mean llvm, waiting patiently.  I suppose my suggestion above will become 
even more important (at least for compiling ports) since it will be a while 
till llvm has decent c++ support.  

Thanks for your reply


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Correct use of fsck_msdosfs

[Even Rognlien]

Good afternoon,

We are using fsck_msdosfs in one of our products, and are trying to
comply with the conditions in the correct way. We get a bit confused
with the copyright notices, and hopy you are able to clarify this for
us. Inside the source files found at
http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/src/sbin/fsck_msdosfs/ , we find
the following copyright text

***
/*
 * Copyright (C) 1995 Wolfgang Solfrank
 * Copyright (c) 1995 Martin Husemann
 *
 * Redistribution and use in source and binary forms, with or without
 * modification, are permitted provided that the following conditions
 * are met:
 * 1. Redistributions of source code must retain the above copyright
 *notice, this list of conditions and the following disclaimer.
 * 2. Redistributions in binary form must reproduce the above copyright
 *notice, this list of conditions and the following disclaimer in
the
 *documentation and/or other materials provided with the
distribution.
 * 3. All advertising materials mentioning features or use of this
software
 *must display the following acknowledgement:
 *  This product includes software developed by Martin Husemann
 *  and Wolfgang Solfrank.
 * 4. Neither the name of the University nor the names of its
contributors
 *may be used to endorse or promote products derived from this
software
 *without specific prior written permission.
 *
 * THIS SOFTWARE IS PROVIDED BY THE AUTHORS ``AS IS'' AND ANY EXPRESS OR
 * IMPLIED WARRANTIES, INCLUDING, BUT NOT LIMITED TO, THE IMPLIED
WARRANTIES
 * OF MERCHANTABILITY AND FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE ARE
DISCLAIMED.
 * IN NO EVENT SHALL THE AUTHORS BE LIABLE FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT,
 * INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, EXEMPLARY, OR CONSEQUENTIAL DAMAGES (INCLUDING,
BUT
 * NOT LIMITED TO, PROCUREMENT OF SUBSTITUTE GOODS OR SERVICES; LOSS OF
USE,
 * DATA, OR PROFITS; OR BUSINESS INTERRUPTION) HOWEVER CAUSED AND ON ANY
 * THEORY OF LIABILITY, WHETHER IN CONTRACT, STRICT LIABILITY, OR TORT
 * (INCLUDING NEGLIGENCE OR OTHERWISE) ARISING IN ANY WAY OUT OF THE USE
OF
 * THIS SOFTWARE, EVEN IF ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF SUCH DAMAGE.
 */

**


Then, under the Free BSD Legal Notices, under which it seems that
fsck_msdosfs resides, we find the following FreeBSD Copyright notice:



**

Copyright 1994-2009 The FreeBSD Project. All rights reserved.

Redistribution and use in source and binary forms, with or without
modification, are permitted provided that the following conditions are
met:

1. Redistributions of source code must retain the above copyright
notice, this list of conditions and the following disclaimer. 
2. Redistributions in binary form must reproduce the above copyright
notice, this list of conditions and the following disclaimer in the
documentation and/or other materials provided with the distribution. 

THIS SOFTWARE IS PROVIDED BY THE FREEBSD PROJECT ``AS IS'' AND ANY
EXPRESS OR IMPLIED WARRANTIES, INCLUDING, BUT NOT LIMITED TO, THE
IMPLIED WARRANTIES OF MERCHANTABILITY AND FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR
PURPOSE ARE DISCLAIMED. IN NO EVENT SHALL THE FREEBSD PROJECT OR
CONTRIBUTORS BE LIABLE FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL,
EXEMPLARY, OR CONSEQUENTIAL DAMAGES (INCLUDING, BUT NOT LIMITED TO,
PROCUREMENT OF SUBSTITUTE GOODS OR SERVICES; LOSS OF USE, DATA, OR
PROFITS; OR BUSINESS INTERRUPTION) HOWEVER CAUSED AND ON ANY THEORY OF
LIABILITY, WHETHER IN CONTRACT, STRICT LIABILITY, OR TORT (INCLUDING
NEGLIGENCE OR OTHERWISE) ARISING IN ANY WAY OUT OF THE USE OF THIS
SOFTWARE, EVEN IF ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF SUCH DAMAGE.

The views and conclusions contained in the software and documentation
are those of the authors and should not be interpreted as representing
official policies, either expressed or implied, of the FreeBSD Project.


**

How do these two copyright texts relate to each other, and how do we use
them in the correct way? This is particularly relevant to sort out when
we do redistribution in binary, where the copyright text needs to be
provided. Do we provide both, or just the one or the other?

Looking forward to your clarification.

Regards,
Even Rognlien
Trade Compliance Advisor
+47 901 26 411



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IPFW/Dummynet/Bridging with VLAN trunks?

[Howard Jones]

I'm trying to use Dummynet+IPFW and bridging to make a packet shaper
that runs across multiple VLANs. So my intended set up is:

[users]->[Aggregate Switch]=>[FreeBSD]=>[Upstream Switch (with IP
interfaces for each vlan)]->The World

where -> is a single VLAN, and => is a tagged dot1q trunk. The aim is to
drop the FreeBSD box in the middle, in one trunked uplink, and cover all
the VLANs downstream of that.

Should this work?

In practice, the bridging seems to work OK, but as soon as I add rules
to match traffic passing through and apply it to pipes, everything
stops. I can use tcpdump's vlan option to filter traffic on em0, em1 or
bridge0 and it does show only traffic for that vlan, so tags are being
preserved...

Ideally, I'd like to use the dot1q tag in ipfw rules directly, and avoid
ip ranges, but I don't think that's possible. Is there some special
incantation to make ipfw vlan-aware?

Has anyone else done this successfully?

Best Regards,

Howie
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Re: Sorting out owner and group permissions...

[Mel Flynn]

On Tuesday 21 April 2009 15:13:47 Mister Olli wrote:

> no does not work, since using SSH / SFTP does not involve starting a
> shell. so umask settings don't work.

Then you're using the wrong system for the task. The OS can't make assumptions 
about "what the ownership/modes of a file should really be, if an application 
is telling it they should be different".
This is why more mature FTP daemons allow modes/ownerships to be set on 
upload.

The OS already:
- gives a new file group of the containing directory so it is easy to create 
"shared files" in a "shared directory"
- has a default umask that is world readable
- allows changing a users umask

The application (sftp) overrides all this and now you're expecting the OS to 
override that again. Don't think so ;)
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Re: legal aspects in order to use the open source sw fsck_msdosfs

[John Nielsen]

On Tuesday 21 April 2009 08:33:00 am Stefan Beskow wrote:
> Hello,
> My name is Stefan Beskow and I work as a configuration manager within
> Ericsson AB.
> I am investigating the legal aspects of the use of open source sw
> within a project.
>
> Could you please help me with information about license issues and
> copywriting issues ea for the fsck_msdosfs ?
> What is required in order to use the fsck_msdosfs software?

fsck_msdosfs is provided under a BSD license like most of the rest of 
FreeBSD. See: 
http://www.freebsd.org/copyright/index.html and especially 
http://www.freebsd.org/copyright/freebsd-license.html.

For fsck_msdosfs in particular, see also the comments at the top of the 
source files, e.g.:
http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/src/sbin/fsck_msdosfs/main.c?rev=1.15.20.1;content-type=text%2Fplain.

JN

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Re: Preventing ntpd from adjusting time (backwards)

[Mel Flynn]

On Tuesday 21 April 2009 16:11:52 Tim Judd wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 3:39 AM, Matthew Seaman <
>
> m.sea...@infracaninophile.co.uk> wrote:
> > Mel Flynn wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > Some coarse reading of ntpd(8) and ntp.conf(5) doesn't lead me to
> > > believe
> >
> > it's
> >
> > > possible to make ntpd *not* adjust the time. With adjust I don't mean
> > > the
> >
> > skew
> >
> > > operation, but really change the time. Backwards is my primary concern
> >
> > but if
> >
> > > it can be turned off completely it's fine with me.
> > >
> > > Reason being dovecot bailing out when this happens:
> > > Apr  1 16:18:26 squish ntpd[1353]: time reset -6.711955 s
> > >
> > > Apr  1 16:18:26 mx1 dovecot: Fatal: Time just moved backwards by 6
> >
> > seconds.
> >
> > > This might cause a lot of problems, so I'll just kill myself now.
> > > http://wiki.dovecot.org/TimeMovedBackwards
> >
> > This seems to be a bete-noir for the dovecot developer.  Whatever, it is
> > a royal pain in the arse, as my mailserver always steps the time
> > backwards on each reboot, and then dovecot does it's dying swan thing.
> >
> > Three choices:
> >
> >  * Don't run 'ntpd -g' as the documentation tells you is the modern and
> >accepted method.  Instead, run 'ntpdate' as a separate process and
> >run 'ntpd' without the '-g' flag.
> >
> >  * Don't run dovecot.  Other IMAP servers do not suffer in the same
> >way.
> >
> >  * Put up with it.  Avoid reboots, and swear at all concerned any time
> >you really do have to reboot.
> >
> >Cheers,
> >
> >Matthew
>
> How about adding ntpdate's provided string to dovecot's required string in
> their respective startup rc.d scripts?  This forces dovecot to wait until
> ntpdate has been called, assuming time has actually been set/changed, then
> dovecot may start?

That could work, if ntpd_sync_on_start would actually sync on start. Trying 
not to enable ntpdate unless I really have to, since I expect it to be gone in 
8.0.
Still, there's a chance ntp steps backwards during the runtime, but then my 
CMOS battery probably needs replacing anyway.
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Re: Preventing ntpd from adjusting time (backwards)

[Mel Flynn]

On Tuesday 21 April 2009 16:20:52 RW wrote:

> The bottom line though, is that ntpdate_enable=yes solves the problem
> entirely, since the real problem is not the step, but the fact that it
> happens in the background, and after a delay.

Care to expand on that? Dovecot won't stop if root issues a date command that 
sets time to the past, for example?

> ntpdate may be deprecated, but it's been deprecated for years, and I
> doubt it will go away until ntpd fully replaces it's functionality.
> ntpd -gq can replace ntpdate in a crontab, but ntpd -gqn doesn't really
> replace ntpdate -b in the boot-sequence.

I'm actually counting on it to be gone in 8.0.
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Re: Preventing ntpd from adjusting time (backwards)

[RW]

On Tue, 21 Apr 2009 14:09:09 +0200
Mel Flynn  wrote:

> On Tuesday 21 April 2009 11:39:32 Matthew Seaman wrote:

> >   * Don't run 'ntpd -g' as the documentation tells you is the
> > modern and accepted method.  Instead, run 'ntpdate' as a separate
> > process and run 'ntpd' without the '-g' flag.
> 
> Hmm, isc sure knows how to abstract something as simple as command
> line options into several levels. From the source, -q activates
> mode_ntpdate which is one path for time reset. Since not using that,
> it's not that path.
> 
> The other codepath, has 4 possibles, 2 of which relating to step-in
> and step- out, which I could increase to values that are less likely
> to cause a step. Would be worthwhile if there aren't 2 other
> possibilities which most likely cause the "step back after reboot"
> syndrome:

The bottom line though, is that ntpdate_enable=yes solves the problem
entirely, since the real problem is not the step, but the fact that it
happens in the background, and after a delay.

ntpdate may be deprecated, but it's been deprecated for years, and I
doubt it will go away until ntpd fully replaces it's functionality.
ntpd -gq can replace ntpdate in a crontab, but ntpd -gqn doesn't really
replace ntpdate -b in the boot-sequence.

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Re: Preventing ntpd from adjusting time (backwards)

[Tim Judd]

On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 3:39 AM, Matthew Seaman <
m.sea...@infracaninophile.co.uk> wrote:

> Mel Flynn wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > Some coarse reading of ntpd(8) and ntp.conf(5) doesn't lead me to believe
> it's
> > possible to make ntpd *not* adjust the time. With adjust I don't mean the
> skew
> > operation, but really change the time. Backwards is my primary concern
> but if
> > it can be turned off completely it's fine with me.
> >
> > Reason being dovecot bailing out when this happens:
> > Apr  1 16:18:26 squish ntpd[1353]: time reset -6.711955 s
> >
> > Apr  1 16:18:26 mx1 dovecot: Fatal: Time just moved backwards by 6
> seconds.
> > This might cause a lot of problems, so I'll just kill myself now.
> > http://wiki.dovecot.org/TimeMovedBackwards
> >
>
> This seems to be a bete-noir for the dovecot developer.  Whatever, it is
> a royal pain in the arse, as my mailserver always steps the time
> backwards on each reboot, and then dovecot does it's dying swan thing.
>
> Three choices:
>
>  * Don't run 'ntpd -g' as the documentation tells you is the modern and
>accepted method.  Instead, run 'ntpdate' as a separate process and
>run 'ntpd' without the '-g' flag.
>
>  * Don't run dovecot.  Other IMAP servers do not suffer in the same
>way.
>
>  * Put up with it.  Avoid reboots, and swear at all concerned any time
>you really do have to reboot.
>
>Cheers,
>
>Matthew
>

How about adding ntpdate's provided string to dovecot's required string in
their respective startup rc.d scripts?  This forces dovecot to wait until
ntpdate has been called, assuming time has actually been set/changed, then
dovecot may start?

I'd try that.  :D
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Re: named fails to start on boot on FreeBSD 6.1, complains about libxml2.so.5

[Mark Stosberg]

> Agreed. Bind 9.5 and higher from ports has "XML statistics" support. That 
> explains the xml and iconv. ldd -a /usr/sbin/named should show you which one 
> wants libm.so.2 which is from the 4.x days.
> If you don't need these statistics, I would suggest turning them off through 
> make config.

This is great feedback. I confirmed the old "compat" dependency is from libxml, 
and 
it's true we don't use those XML stats. I like the suggestion of using "make 
config" to
recompile without the stat support, which will remove all the troublesome 
dependencies for
us. Thanks!

Mark

ldd -a /usr/sbin/named
/usr/sbin/named:
libcrypto.so.4 => /lib/libcrypto.so.4 (0x281ff000)
libxml2.so.5 => /usr/local/lib/libxml2.so.5 (0x282f1000)
libiconv.so.3 => /usr/local/lib/libiconv.so.3 (0x283ef000)
libm.so.4 => /lib/libm.so.4 (0x284e3000)
libc.so.6 => /lib/libc.so.6 (0x284f9000)
/usr/local/lib/libxml2.so.5:
libiconv.so.3 => /usr/local/lib/libiconv.so.3 (0x283ef000)
libm.so.2 => /usr/local/lib/compat/libm.so.2 (0x285d1000)


Mark
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xview problem

[Giuseppe Pagnoni]

Dear alll

pardon the re-post, I thought I would check again if somebody has
found a solution for this, since my last e-mail.

I am running FreeBSD 7.1-RELEASE-p4 on an i386 machine and I am unable
to use applications that depend on xview. For example, when I try to
run "clock", I get:

Assertion failed: (ret != inval_id), function _XAllocID, file
xcb_io.c, line 378. Abort

and I get the same error for any other application using xview.

I have updated the installed software to the latest (as of today)
version of the ports tree, and I have also run the following command
listed in /usr/ports/UPDATING:

portupgrade -rf libxcb

but to no avail.

I have also googled the error message, but the only link that comes up
is in Japanese

Any suggestions?

thank you very much in advance

--
Giuseppe Pagnoni
Dip. Scienze Biomediche
Sezione Fisiologia
Univ. di Modena e Reggio Emilia
Via Campi 287
I-41100 Modena, Italy
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legal aspects in order to use the open source sw fsck_msdosfs

[Stefan Beskow]

Hello,
My name is Stefan Beskow and I work as a configuration manager within
Ericsson AB.
I am investigating the legal aspects of the use of open source sw within
a project.

Could you please help me with information about license issues and
copywriting issues ea for the fsck_msdosfs ? 
What is required in order to use the fsck_msdosfs software?


Best regards,
Stefan Beskow



Stefan Beskow / Elan IT
Configuration Manager

Ericsson AB - EAB/FBM/ME
Mini-Link, Embedded Software

Email: stefan.bes...@ericsson.com
Business phone: +46 10 7471513
Cell phone: +46 709 871513



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Re: Sorting out owner and group permissions...

[Mister Olli]

hi,

no does not work, since using SSH / SFTP does not involve starting a
shell. so umask settings don't work.



Regards,
---
Mr. Olli

On Di, 2009-04-21 at 14:36 +0200, Mel Flynn wrote:
> On Tuesday 21 April 2009 11:17:40 Mister Olli wrote:
> > hi,
> >
> > I have the same problem on some fileservers I do the administration for.
> > But in my case the users send the files via SSH to the server.
> >
> > A solution for this, based on some OS mechanism would be really
> > great :-)
> 
> umask(1).

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Re: Encrypted slice with geli

[Bill Moran]

In response to Bernt Hansson :

> Giorgos Keramidas said the following on 2009-04-20 23:59:
> > On Mon, 20 Apr 2009 21:38:54 +0200, Bernt Hansson  
> > wrote:
> >> Hello list!
> >>
> >> I was thinking of makeing a slice encrypted with geli.
> >>
> >> My question is: does geli init -s 4096 /dev/ad* erase the data on the
> >> slice. The handbook didn't say yes or no, and I don't want to try
> >> without asking.
> > 
> > No, 
> 
> No, what? does it erase the data or not.

It depends on exactly what part of the process you're talking about,
and it depends on exactly what you mean by "erase".

Geli doesn't explicitly destroy your data at any point in the process.
However, most HOWTOs I've ready will tell you at some step or another
to overwrite the partition using dd and /dev/zero, which _does_
destroy the data.

Also, even if you skip the dd step, geli will alter the partition in
such a way that typical tools will not see the data.  However, if you
know your stuff, you can bypass normal tools and still read (part of?)
the data.

So, if your question is "I want to securely destroy the data on a 
partition, can geli do that?" the answer is No.

If your question is, "I'm switching a partition to using geli, do I
need to back up my data before doing so?" the answer is YES!

> But I want to keep the info on the slice.

Then you need to copy it elsewhere, then copy it back after the slice
is encrypted.

-- 
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Re: Sorting out owner and group permissions...

[Mel Flynn]

On Tuesday 21 April 2009 11:17:40 Mister Olli wrote:
> hi,
>
> I have the same problem on some fileservers I do the administration for.
> But in my case the users send the files via SSH to the server.
>
> A solution for this, based on some OS mechanism would be really
> great :-)

umask(1).
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Re: named fails to start on boot on FreeBSD 6.1, complains about libxml2.so.5

[Mel Flynn]

On Tuesday 21 April 2009 14:21:12 Manolis Kiagias wrote:
> Mark Stosberg wrote:
> >>> We had problem with "named" starting on boot on a FreeBSD 6.1 server,
> >>> managed
> >>> by /etc/rc.conf.
> >>>
> >>> The startup script failed with errors about shared library "libm.so.2"
> >>> failing
> >>> to load because of something related to libxml2.so.5.
> >>>
> >>> Later, when I then tried starting it via /etc/rc.d/named it worked
> >>> fine.
> >>>
> >>> I include the following "ldd" output in case it's helpful. What could
> >>> possibly
> >>> be the issue here?
> >>>
> >>>Mark
> >>>
> >>> ###
> >>>
> >>> # ldd /usr/sbin/named
> >>> /usr/sbin/named:
> >>>libcrypto.so.4 => /lib/libcrypto.so.4 (0x281ff000)
> >>>libxml2.so.5 => /usr/local/lib/libxml2.so.5 (0x282f1000)
> >>>libiconv.so.3 => /usr/local/lib/libiconv.so.3 (0x283ef000)
> >>>libm.so.4 => /lib/libm.so.4 (0x284e3000)
> >>>libc.so.6 => /lib/libc.so.6 (0x284f9000)
> >>>libm.so.2 => /usr/local/lib/compat/libm.so.2 (0x285d1000)
> >>
> >> I also see to LOCAL libraries in it.  named is part of base, unless you
> >> compiled and installed the port version and maybe told it to overwrite
> >> the base.
> >>
> >> None of this adds up.
> >>
> >> %ldd /usr/sbin/named
> >> /usr/sbin/named:
> >> libcrypto.so.5 => /lib/libcrypto.so.5 (0x281fe000)
> >> libthr.so.3 => /lib/libthr.so.3 (0x28357000)
> >> libc.so.7 => /lib/libc.so.7 (0x2836a000)
> >>
> >> There's a named on 7.1p4
> >
> > Thanks for the response. I've now compared this named 'ldd' outfit to
> > another 6.1 install we have that also runs named. It has the exact same
> > file size and version, but slightly different ldd output:
> >
> > -- from the second machine with FreeBSD 6.1
> > # ldd /usr/sbin/named
> > /usr/sbin/named:
> > libcrypto.so.4 => /lib/libcrypto.so.4 (0x281ff000)
> > libxml2.so.5 => /usr/local/lib/libxml2.so.5 (0x282f1000)
> > libz.so.3 => /lib/libz.so.3 (0x283ff000)
> > libiconv.so.3 => /usr/local/lib/libiconv.so.3 (0x2840f000)
> > libm.so.4 => /lib/libm.so.4 (0x284fc000)
> > libc.so.6 => /lib/libc.so.6 (0x28512000)
> >
> > 
> >
> > XML is still there, but the mention of libm.so no longer points into
> > /usr/local/lib/compat This other FreeBSD user also found the libxml link:
> > https://lists.isc.org/pipermail/bind-users/2008-November/073929.html
> >
> > I also checked "/etc/make.conf" on both machines. They mentioned X11_BASE
> > and Perl... nothing about XML. However, these machines have evolved some
> > over time. Perhaps something with there in the past.
> >
> > It sounds like advisable paths forward include re-compiling or
> > re-installing named.
> >
> > Mark
>
> As it is already pointed out, you probably have a bind version installed
> from ports.
>
> Try:
>
> pkg_info -Ix bind
>
> and check if it produces anything. On a 6.4 box, the base system bind
> shows: ldd /usr/sbin/named
> /usr/sbin/named:
> libcrypto.so.4 => /lib/libcrypto.so.4 (0x80077c000)
> libc.so.6 => /lib/libc.so.6 (0x8009c3000)
>
> However, the port dns/bind96 for example:
>
> # pwd
> /usr/ports/dns/bind96
> # make run-depends-list
> /usr/ports/textproc/libxml2
>
> which looks suspiciously similar to your dependency there.

Agreed. Bind 9.5 and higher from ports has "XML statistics" support. That 
explains the xml and iconv. ldd -a /usr/sbin/named should show you which one 
wants libm.so.2 which is from the 4.x days.
If you don't need these statistics, I would suggest turning them off through 
make config.
-- 
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Re: Encrypted slice with geli

[Bernt Hansson]

Giorgos Keramidas said the following on 2009-04-20 23:59:

On Mon, 20 Apr 2009 21:38:54 +0200, Bernt Hansson  wrote:

Hello list!

I was thinking of makeing a slice encrypted with geli.

My question is: does geli init -s 4096 /dev/ad* erase the data on the
slice. The handbook didn't say yes or no, and I don't want to try
without asking.


No, 


No, what? does it erase the data or not.


but if you plan to use geli to encrypt data that will end up on the
slice it may be a useful thing to:

  a) keep a backup copy of the data in its unencrypted form


Bad idea.


  b) overwrite the entire partition with random bytes (increased entropy
 means that it is harder to 'attack' the final encrypted data stream
 when geli starts writing over parts of the encrypted slice)


But I want to keep the info on the slice.
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Re: named fails to start on boot on FreeBSD 6.1, complains about libxml2.so.5

[Manolis Kiagias]

Mark Stosberg wrote:
>>> We had problem with "named" starting on boot on a FreeBSD 6.1 server,
>>> managed
>>> by /etc/rc.conf.
>>>
>>> The startup script failed with errors about shared library "libm.so.2"
>>> failing
>>> to load because of something related to libxml2.so.5.
>>>
>>> Later, when I then tried starting it via /etc/rc.d/named it worked fine.
>>>
>>> I include the following "ldd" output in case it's helpful. What could
>>> possibly
>>> be the issue here?
>>>
>>>Mark
>>>
>>> ###
>>>
>>> # ldd /usr/sbin/named
>>> /usr/sbin/named:
>>>libcrypto.so.4 => /lib/libcrypto.so.4 (0x281ff000)
>>>libxml2.so.5 => /usr/local/lib/libxml2.so.5 (0x282f1000)
>>>libiconv.so.3 => /usr/local/lib/libiconv.so.3 (0x283ef000)
>>>libm.so.4 => /lib/libm.so.4 (0x284e3000)
>>>libc.so.6 => /lib/libc.so.6 (0x284f9000)
>>>libm.so.2 => /usr/local/lib/compat/libm.so.2 (0x285d1000)
>>>   
>> I also see to LOCAL libraries in it.  named is part of base, unless you
>> compiled and installed the port version and maybe told it to overwrite the
>> base.
>>
>> None of this adds up.
>>
>> %ldd /usr/sbin/named
>> /usr/sbin/named:
>> libcrypto.so.5 => /lib/libcrypto.so.5 (0x281fe000)
>> libthr.so.3 => /lib/libthr.so.3 (0x28357000)
>> libc.so.7 => /lib/libc.so.7 (0x2836a000)
>>
>> There's a named on 7.1p4
>> 
>
> Thanks for the response. I've now compared this named 'ldd' outfit to another
> 6.1 install we have that also runs named. It has the exact same file size and 
> version,
> but slightly different ldd output:
>
> -- from the second machine with FreeBSD 6.1
> # ldd /usr/sbin/named
> /usr/sbin/named:
> libcrypto.so.4 => /lib/libcrypto.so.4 (0x281ff000)
> libxml2.so.5 => /usr/local/lib/libxml2.so.5 (0x282f1000)
> libz.so.3 => /lib/libz.so.3 (0x283ff000)
> libiconv.so.3 => /usr/local/lib/libiconv.so.3 (0x2840f000)
> libm.so.4 => /lib/libm.so.4 (0x284fc000)
> libc.so.6 => /lib/libc.so.6 (0x28512000)
>
> 
>
> XML is still there, but the mention of libm.so no longer points into 
> /usr/local/lib/compat
> This other FreeBSD user also found the libxml link:
> https://lists.isc.org/pipermail/bind-users/2008-November/073929.html
>
> I also checked "/etc/make.conf" on both machines. They mentioned X11_BASE and
> Perl... nothing about XML. However, these machines have evolved some over 
> time. Perhaps something
> with there in the past.
>
> It sounds like advisable paths forward include re-compiling or re-installing 
> named.
>
> Mark
>
>   

As it is already pointed out, you probably have a bind version installed
from ports.

Try:

pkg_info -Ix bind

and check if it produces anything. On a 6.4 box, the base system bind shows:
ldd /usr/sbin/named
/usr/sbin/named:
libcrypto.so.4 => /lib/libcrypto.so.4 (0x80077c000)
libc.so.6 => /lib/libc.so.6 (0x8009c3000)

However, the port dns/bind96 for example:

# pwd
/usr/ports/dns/bind96
# make run-depends-list
/usr/ports/textproc/libxml2

which looks suspiciously similar to your dependency there.

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Re: Driver Problem: Broadcom NetXtreme Gigabit Ethernet

[Boris Samorodov]

On Tue, 21 Apr 2009 16:41:24 +0700 Alexander Tarasov wrote:

> Hello again.
> Can anybody help? Or no one?

Please, don't top-post, do what you were recommended and
show the results.

> 2009/4/9 Alexander Tarasov 

> > With GENERIC I have same problem.
> > My network card is Broadcom NetXtreme Gigabit Ethernet.. (14e4:1684
> > subsystem 1025:014b).
> > I think, it's BCM5764.
> >
> > 2009/4/9, Chris Rees :
> > > 2009/4/9 Alexander Tarasov :
> > >> Hi, All!
> > >>
> > >> After installing FreeBSD 7.1 I've got problem with my network card.
> > >>
> > >> [root ~]# uname -a
> > >> FreeBSD  7.1-RELEASE FreeBSD 7.1-RELEASE #1: Thu Apr  9 13:34:46 NOVST
> > >> 2009 root@:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/LAPTOP  i386
> > >> [root ~]# pciconf -lv
> > >> ... cut ...
> > >> no...@pci0:6:0:0:class=0x02 card=0x014b1025
> > >> chip=0x168414e4 rev=0x10 hdr=0x00
> > >>vendor = 'Broadcom Corporation'
> > >>class  = newtwork
> > >>subclass   = ethernet
> > >> [root ~]# dmesg | grep "bge"
> > >> [root ~]# ifconfig -a
> > >> lo0: flags=8049 metric 0 mtu 16384
> > >> inet 127.0.0.1 netmask 0xff00
> > >>
> > >> I've compiled my kernel with "device miibus" and "device bge" (my
> > >> kernel config is GENERIC without FireWare & RAIDs).
> > >>
> > >> What does it mean? Is somethere driver for this card?
> > >>
> > >> Sorry for my terrible English =)
> > >>
> > >> Alexander V Tarasov
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> > > Are you sure you didn't comment out any miibus lines or anything like
> > > that? Try with the GENERIC kernel, and kldload bge to see what
> > > happens.
> > >
> > > Chris
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text.
> > > Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
> > > A: Top-posting.
> > > Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail?
> > >
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Re: named fails to start on boot on FreeBSD 6.1, complains about libxml2.so.5

[Mark Stosberg]

> > We had problem with "named" starting on boot on a FreeBSD 6.1 server,
> > managed
> > by /etc/rc.conf.
> >
> > The startup script failed with errors about shared library "libm.so.2"
> > failing
> > to load because of something related to libxml2.so.5.
> >
> > Later, when I then tried starting it via /etc/rc.d/named it worked fine.
> >
> > I include the following "ldd" output in case it's helpful. What could
> > possibly
> > be the issue here?
> >
> >Mark
> >
> > ###
> >
> > # ldd /usr/sbin/named
> > /usr/sbin/named:
> >libcrypto.so.4 => /lib/libcrypto.so.4 (0x281ff000)
> >libxml2.so.5 => /usr/local/lib/libxml2.so.5 (0x282f1000)
> >libiconv.so.3 => /usr/local/lib/libiconv.so.3 (0x283ef000)
> >libm.so.4 => /lib/libm.so.4 (0x284e3000)
> >libc.so.6 => /lib/libc.so.6 (0x284f9000)
> >libm.so.2 => /usr/local/lib/compat/libm.so.2 (0x285d1000)
> 
> I also see to LOCAL libraries in it.  named is part of base, unless you
> compiled and installed the port version and maybe told it to overwrite the
> base.
> 
> None of this adds up.
> 
> %ldd /usr/sbin/named
> /usr/sbin/named:
> libcrypto.so.5 => /lib/libcrypto.so.5 (0x281fe000)
> libthr.so.3 => /lib/libthr.so.3 (0x28357000)
> libc.so.7 => /lib/libc.so.7 (0x2836a000)
> 
> There's a named on 7.1p4

Thanks for the response. I've now compared this named 'ldd' outfit to another
6.1 install we have that also runs named. It has the exact same file size and 
version,
but slightly different ldd output:

-- from the second machine with FreeBSD 6.1
# ldd /usr/sbin/named
/usr/sbin/named:
libcrypto.so.4 => /lib/libcrypto.so.4 (0x281ff000)
libxml2.so.5 => /usr/local/lib/libxml2.so.5 (0x282f1000)
libz.so.3 => /lib/libz.so.3 (0x283ff000)
libiconv.so.3 => /usr/local/lib/libiconv.so.3 (0x2840f000)
libm.so.4 => /lib/libm.so.4 (0x284fc000)
libc.so.6 => /lib/libc.so.6 (0x28512000)



XML is still there, but the mention of libm.so no longer points into 
/usr/local/lib/compat
This other FreeBSD user also found the libxml link:
https://lists.isc.org/pipermail/bind-users/2008-November/073929.html

I also checked "/etc/make.conf" on both machines. They mentioned X11_BASE and
Perl... nothing about XML. However, these machines have evolved some over time. 
Perhaps something
with there in the past.

It sounds like advisable paths forward include re-compiling or re-installing 
named.

Mark



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Re: Preventing ntpd from adjusting time (backwards)

[Mel Flynn]

On Tuesday 21 April 2009 11:39:32 Matthew Seaman wrote:
> Mel Flynn wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > Some coarse reading of ntpd(8) and ntp.conf(5) doesn't lead me to believe
> > it's possible to make ntpd *not* adjust the time. With adjust I don't
> > mean the skew operation, but really change the time. Backwards is my
> > primary concern but if it can be turned off completely it's fine with me.
> >
> > Reason being dovecot bailing out when this happens:
> > Apr  1 16:18:26 squish ntpd[1353]: time reset -6.711955 s
> >
> > Apr  1 16:18:26 mx1 dovecot: Fatal: Time just moved backwards by 6
> > seconds. This might cause a lot of problems, so I'll just kill myself
> > now. http://wiki.dovecot.org/TimeMovedBackwards
>
> This seems to be a bete-noir for the dovecot developer.  Whatever, it is
> a royal pain in the arse, as my mailserver always steps the time
> backwards on each reboot, and then dovecot does it's dying swan thing.
>
> Three choices:
>
>   * Don't run 'ntpd -g' as the documentation tells you is the modern and
> accepted method.  Instead, run 'ntpdate' as a separate process and
> run 'ntpd' without the '-g' flag.

Hmm, isc sure knows how to abstract something as simple as command line 
options into several levels. From the source, -q activates mode_ntpdate which 
is one path for time reset. Since not using that, it's not that path.

The other codepath, has 4 possibles, 2 of which relating to step-in and step-
out, which I could increase to values that are less likely to cause a step. 
Would be worthwhile if there aren't 2 other possibilities which most likely 
cause the "step back after reboot" syndrome:
 * In S_NSET state an initial frequency correction is
 * not available, usually because the frequency file has
 * not yet been written. Since the time is outside the
 * step threshold, the clock is stepped. The frequency
 * will be set directly following the stepout interval.
 *
 * In S_FSET state the initial frequency has been set
 * from the frequency file. Since the time is outside
 * the step threshold, the clock is stepped immediately,
 * rather than after the stepout interval. Guys get
 * nervous if it takes 17 minutes to set the clock for
 * the first time.


>   * Don't run dovecot.  Other IMAP servers do not suffer in the same
> way.

Since this is the only "issue" I have with dovecot, I don't think so. ;)

>   * Put up with it.  Avoid reboots, and swear at all concerned any time
> you really do have to reboot.

* Patch ntpd (most likely option now)
* Do something smart with init, restarting dovecot when this happens.

To be continued (on TODO somewhere on the bottom :/). Thanks for the input 
Matt.
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Re: Freebsd Built-in vacation program does not auto reply

[Derek Ragona]

At 08:16 PM 4/19/2009, lyd mc wrote:


Hi derek,

Correction on step 4, it should be:

\alydio.mc, "|/usr/bin/vacation alydio.mc"

thanks,

alyd


--- On Mon, 4/20/09, lyd mc  wrote:
From: lyd mc 
Subject: Re: Freebsd Built-in vacation program does not auto reply
To: "Derek Ragona" 
Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Date: Monday, April 20, 2009, 9:07 AM

hi derek,

It is not also working on my sendmail.

May be I overlooked some steps?

step 1. login to user
# su alydio.mc

step 2. initialize vacation db
$ vacation -i

step 3. create .vacation.msg

 From: alydio...@mydomain.com
 Subject: I am on vacation
 Delivered-By-The-Graces-Of: The Vacation program
 Precedence: bulk

 I am on vacation until...

step 4. create .forward

\klyren, "|/usr/bin/vacation klyren"


sendmail log

Apr 20 08:21:08 MAIL sm-mta[18102]: n3K0L2Jl018092: to="|/usr/bin/vacation 
alydio.mc", ctladdr= (1001/0), delay=00:00:05, 
xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=prog, pri=62458, dsn=2.0.0, stat=Sent


...nothing follows...

thanks
alydiomc


In the log entry above, I see:
ctladdr=
I suspect this is NOT a deliverable address but that depends on how you 
have mydomain resolving.


Also you might want to try using a user account without a period in the 
name.  The period may be causing a silent parsing problem for sendmail and 
vacation.


-Derek




--- On Fri, 4/17/09, Derek Ragona
  wrote:
From: Derek Ragona 
Subject: Re: Freebsd Built-in vacation program does not auto reply
To: alydi...@yahoo.com, "Odhiambo Washington" 
Cc: "Steve Bertrand" , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Date: Friday, April 17, 2009, 9:51 PM



At 07:27 AM 4/17/2009, lyd mc wrote:

Thanks Odhiambo for your
time.


Actually i have a working vacation program  from freebsd ports
(/usr/ports/mail/vacation).


I only wondering why the freebsd base vacation behave differently



I still want freebsd base vacation... the one from ports is obsolete (as
per its maintainer website) and sometime i need to edit its makefile for
it to compile


Thanks again.






I think the base system vacation is the one that is part of
sendmail.  So using it with postfix as the MTA may be the
issue.  I have use the base vacation version flawlessly with
sendmail.


  -Derek










--- On Fri, 4/17/09,
Odhiambo Washington  wrote:

From: Odhiambo Washington 

Subject: Re: Freebsd Built-in vacation program does not auto reply

To: alydi...@yahoo.com

Cc: "Steve Bertrand" ,
freebsd-questions@freebsd.org

Date: Friday, April 17, 2009, 8:10 PM





On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 2:47 PM, lyd mc 
wrote:




hi,


I don't know how to run it in debug mode


I already try this one.


#/usr/bin/vacation -d alydio.mc


but nothing happened... no logs in /var/log/message and /var/log/maillog
pertaining to vacation.




Okay. I think you need to look again at your MTA logs. Not being an
expert with Postfix, I am not sure I can help with it anyway.




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Re: About fetchmail

[张臻]

Thanks, Mel.
I found the reason is that sendmail failed to start because I replaced 
/usr/lib/libssl.so.5 with /usr/local/lib/libssl.so.5. After I rebuild the 
world, it got OK.

On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 02:20:17PM +0200, Mel Flynn wrote:
>On Monday 20 April 2009 12:20:15 张臻 wrote:
>> Today when I used fetchmail to get my mails, it suddenly said that if
>> failed to connect to localhost:25 and failed to send the mail to myself,
>> does anyone know why?
>> The information that fetch out put
>> reading message x...@xxx.xx:1 of 3 (2223 octets)
>> Trying to connect to 127.0.0.1/25...connection failed.
>> fetchmail: connection to localhost:smtp [127.0.0.1/25] failed: Connection
>
>sendmail/postfix/whatever_mta not running.
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Re: Sorting out owner and group permissions...

[Mister Olli]

hi,

I have the same problem on some fileservers I do the administration for.
But in my case the users send the files via SSH to the server.

A solution for this, based on some OS mechanism would be really
great :-)

Anyone ever had to solve that problem?

Regards,
---
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On Mo, 2009-04-20 at 15:21 -0400, John Almberg wrote:
> On Apr 20, 2009, at 2:48 PM, John Almberg wrote:
> 
> > I have a directory called 'scans' that is owned by 'master', but I  
> > want to allow 'customer' to FTP images to that directory. This is  
> > the way I have permissions set:
> >
> > # ls -l
> > drwxrwxr-x  5 master  customer 251904 Apr 20 10:29 scans
> >
> > The problem is that when customer ftp's a file to the directory,  
> > the permissions end up like this:
> >
> > -rw-r-  1 customer customer  772584 Apr 20 15:28 image.jpg
> >
> > When a process run by 'master' tries to copy this file to another  
> > directory (also owned by master), I get the following:
> >
> > # cp scans/image.jpg thumbs/image.jpg
> > cp: scans/image.jpg: Permission denied
> >
> > The only solution that occurs to me smells like a newbie kludge: to  
> > have a root cron job periodically chown all the images to  
> > master:customer. This seems like the proverbial sledgehammer. There  
> > must be a better way?
> >
> > Any thoughts, much appreciated!
> 
> Well, I did figure out one way that seems reasonable... since I am  
> using pureftpd, I changed the upload mask in the pureftpd  
> configuration so new files are created with permissions like:
> 
> -rw-r--r--  1 customer  customer   93177 Apr 20 20:12 image.jpg
> 
> This seems like a pretty good approach, but if there's a better one,  
> I'm all ears!
> 
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Re: Driver Problem: Broadcom NetXtreme Gigabit Ethernet

[Alexander Tarasov]

Hello again.
Can anybody help? Or no one?

2009/4/9 Alexander Tarasov 

> With GENERIC I have same problem.
> My network card is Broadcom NetXtreme Gigabit Ethernet.. (14e4:1684
> subsystem 1025:014b).
> I think, it's BCM5764.
>
> 2009/4/9, Chris Rees :
> > 2009/4/9 Alexander Tarasov :
> >> Hi, All!
> >>
> >> After installing FreeBSD 7.1 I've got problem with my network card.
> >>
> >> [root ~]# uname -a
> >> FreeBSD  7.1-RELEASE FreeBSD 7.1-RELEASE #1: Thu Apr  9 13:34:46 NOVST
> >> 2009 root@:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/LAPTOP  i386
> >> [root ~]# pciconf -lv
> >> ... cut ...
> >> no...@pci0:6:0:0:class=0x02 card=0x014b1025
> >> chip=0x168414e4 rev=0x10 hdr=0x00
> >>vendor = 'Broadcom Corporation'
> >>class  = newtwork
> >>subclass   = ethernet
> >> [root ~]# dmesg | grep "bge"
> >> [root ~]# ifconfig -a
> >> lo0: flags=8049 metric 0 mtu 16384
> >> inet 127.0.0.1 netmask 0xff00
> >>
> >> I've compiled my kernel with "device miibus" and "device bge" (my
> >> kernel config is GENERIC without FireWare & RAIDs).
> >>
> >> What does it mean? Is somethere driver for this card?
> >>
> >> Sorry for my terrible English =)
> >>
> >> Alexander V Tarasov
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> > Are you sure you didn't comment out any miibus lines or anything like
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> > happens.
> >
> > Chris
> >
> >
> > --
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> > Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
> > A: Top-posting.
> > Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail?
> >
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Re: Preventing ntpd from adjusting time (backwards)

[Matthew Seaman]

Mel Flynn wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Some coarse reading of ntpd(8) and ntp.conf(5) doesn't lead me to believe 
> it's 
> possible to make ntpd *not* adjust the time. With adjust I don't mean the 
> skew 
> operation, but really change the time. Backwards is my primary concern but if 
> it can be turned off completely it's fine with me.
> 
> Reason being dovecot bailing out when this happens:
> Apr  1 16:18:26 squish ntpd[1353]: time reset -6.711955 s
> 
> Apr  1 16:18:26 mx1 dovecot: Fatal: Time just moved backwards by 6 seconds. 
> This might cause a lot of problems, so I'll just kill myself now. 
> http://wiki.dovecot.org/TimeMovedBackwards
> 

This seems to be a bete-noir for the dovecot developer.  Whatever, it is
a royal pain in the arse, as my mailserver always steps the time
backwards on each reboot, and then dovecot does it's dying swan thing.

Three choices:

  * Don't run 'ntpd -g' as the documentation tells you is the modern and
accepted method.  Instead, run 'ntpdate' as a separate process and
run 'ntpd' without the '-g' flag.

  * Don't run dovecot.  Other IMAP servers do not suffer in the same
way.

  * Put up with it.  Avoid reboots, and swear at all concerned any time
you really do have to reboot.

Cheers,

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Re: Atom 330 testing

[P.Moulin]

Testing a mini-ITX Intel D945GCLF2 motherboard with Atom 330 processor.


Hi, [sorry to re-open this one month old thread]

I have also this D945GCLF2. All is running nearly fine, but on heavy load
and after the system is powered up for a couple of days, it panics.

The system is running 7.1-RC1 (7th dec 2008) as a Generic kernel, and a
gmirrored WDC+seagate backup drive. The bios is still in 99 release.

Since I have read some is using also this board as an home server, does
someone else is also having this issue (panic under heavy load when up 
for a few days) ?



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Preventing ntpd from adjusting time (backwards)

[Mel Flynn]

Hi,

Some coarse reading of ntpd(8) and ntp.conf(5) doesn't lead me to believe it's 
possible to make ntpd *not* adjust the time. With adjust I don't mean the skew 
operation, but really change the time. Backwards is my primary concern but if 
it can be turned off completely it's fine with me.

Reason being dovecot bailing out when this happens:
Apr  1 16:18:26 squish ntpd[1353]: time reset -6.711955 s

Apr  1 16:18:26 mx1 dovecot: Fatal: Time just moved backwards by 6 seconds. 
This might cause a lot of problems, so I'll just kill myself now. 
http://wiki.dovecot.org/TimeMovedBackwards

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Re: Can you ACTUALLY print from FreeBSD?

[Vincent Hoffman]

On 20/4/09 23:36, Keith Seyffarth wrote:
>> Googling that shows it to be a file shared with Windows boxes when you're 
>> running samba.  I don't know if you set up samba or not, but I would ignore 
>> this error for now.  It's likely unrelated to the printing problem that 
>> you're 
>> having.
>> 
>
> OK. Thanks. I guess. I was kind of hoping that figuring that out might
> be the fix...
>
>   
 Do you have the startup script:
 /usr/local/etc/rc.d/cupsd ?
 
>>> yes
>>>
>>>   
 If so, what is the output of /usr/local/etc/rc.d/cupsd status?
 
>>> currently it's:
>>> cupsd is running as pid 721.
>>>
>>> but I did start cups manually since my last reboot.
>>>
>>>   
>> Cupsd was started automatically on reboot by the script.  So that part is 
>> working fine.
>> 
>
> after rebooting the machine, it's:
> cupsd is not running.
>
> 
>
>   
>> It appears the problem is the printer.  Try changing the perms to 0777 for 
>> testing purposes.  If you're able to print, the problem is permissions.  
>> You'll 
>> have to figure out what permissions you need to get it working.
>> 
>
> That doesn't help. I get the same behavior with the permissions set to
> 0777.
>
>   
>> One person mentioned that you should be using the ugen device instead of 
>> /dev/ultp0.  This thread might be relevant - 
>> http://foo2zjs.rkkda.com/forum/read.php?9,546,547
>>
>> You might have to abandon using cupsd for this printer.
>> 
>
> Yeah. We may not be using this printer long anyway, since it is nearly
> out of ink, and the ink will be $95. It would just be nice to be able
> to demonstrate that printing is an option.
>
> Also, from what I've been seeing in my testing and so on since
> Thursday, it looks like if you use CUPS at all, you can't use anything
> else, since CUPS overwrites things like /etc/printcap with its own
> settings frequently. And since I've been successfully using cups-pdf
> for several months, I'd need a replacement for that. At least with
> that, despite all the shortcomings of .pdf format, we can still get
> stuff printed. Just not in our office.
>
>   
>> If so, this might be helpful:
>> http://www.onlamp.com/pub/a/bsd/2004/07/08/FreeBSD_Basics.html?page=last
>> 
>
> I had read through that several times. It is one of several places
> pointing out that the device has to be at ultp*, and if it's at ugen*
> you likely have a problem...
>
>   
However the pkg-message for hplip says differently. I had to recompile
without ulpt in the kernel to get my hp c3180 psc to work, but it prints
(and scans) fine from freebsd now.
read the output from pkg_info -xD hplip  It has got full instructions on
what needs doing.  Recompiling the kernel isnt actually all that hard,
and is detailed fully in the handbook.
Actually to any devs who might be reading, is there any reason we have
ulpt built in rather than as a module?

Vince

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Re: portmaster -a on a live server

[Mel Flynn]

On Tuesday 21 April 2009 01:38:26 Tom Worster wrote:

> portmaster -a -x mysql-server
> portmaster mysql-server
> reboot

No no no. /usr/local/etc/rc.d/mysql-server start. Reboot is for kernel 
upgrades. And never use reboot unless in single user mode, cause reboot is 
really fast reboot: it doesn't stop services nicely. Use shutdown -r now.
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Re: Compiling FreeBSD with GCC 4.3+

[Mel Flynn]

Hi David,

On Monday 20 April 2009 21:48:39 David Naylor wrote:

> There has been an article recently published by phoronix
> (http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=pcbsd_vs_kubuntu&num=1)
> that compares PC-BSD to Kubuntu.  Kubuntu uses GCC 4.3.3 compared to
> FreeBSD's GCC 4.2.2.  There is a considerable performance difference
> between the two OS's, the article contributes this difference to the
> compiler.

Nice shot in the dark, since except the calculations a lot of these are 
influenced by "journaled FS vs stock UFS".

> In order to check if this is so (and to get the speed improvements of GCC
> 4.3+) one needs to compile the ports (and preferable world/kernel as well)
> with GCC 4.3+.

It's license is incompatible with world/kernel. That said, install lang/gcc43 
and set CC/CXX for ports. World/kernel would be a lot harder. Maybe setting 
WITHOUT_GCC in /etc/src.conf and setting CC/CXX would work, but there's quite 
a few modifications to gcc that aren't in ports lang/gcc, so I have my doubts.

> Is there an easy way to set this up and does anyone know the compatibility
> of world/kernel/ports with GCC 4.3+?
>
> Also has anyone tried this and benchmarked the result?

Not me, but be sure to stick around for the new non-gcc compiler coming to a 
FreeBSD near you. And with the work done by Marcel Molenaar on gpart, 
hopefully we can have ZFS and gjournal as choices in the installer.
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Re: named fails to start on boot on FreeBSD 6.1, complains about libxml2.so.5

[Mel Flynn]

On Monday 20 April 2009 23:48:47 Tim Judd wrote:

> > I include the following "ldd" output in case it's helpful. What could
> > possibly
> > be the issue here?
> >
> >Mark
> >
> > ###
> >
> > # ldd /usr/sbin/named
> > /usr/sbin/named:
> >libcrypto.so.4 => /lib/libcrypto.so.4 (0x281ff000)
> >libxml2.so.5 => /usr/local/lib/libxml2.so.5 (0x282f1000)
> >libiconv.so.3 => /usr/local/lib/libiconv.so.3 (0x283ef000)
> >libm.so.4 => /lib/libm.so.4 (0x284e3000)
> >libc.so.6 => /lib/libc.so.6 (0x284f9000)
> >libm.so.2 => /usr/local/lib/compat/libm.so.2 (0x285d1000)

As far as I know, named never supported or needed xml. I would check if this 
really is named and for rootkits while you're at it. Either that, or you have 
LDFLAGS set in your /etc/make.conf that make everything link with these 
libraries.
Backup data and configs and reinstall from CD if you can't find a sane answer 
for this.

> libm.so.2, in /usr/local/lib/compat/libm.so.2 is for Linux (and might I
> add a possibly older version).

No, it's from compat4x. Linux would be in /compat/linux/lib.
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Re: Can you ACTUALLY print from FreeBSD?

[Wojciech Puchar]

I'm trying to print from my FreeBSD machine. I've been through a


yes. i do

cat file >/dev/lpt0

:)


never used cups and never will. but i use lpd and postscript to pcl filter
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