Problem with ssh
I have tried using the following command with negative results. ssh -L 5902:localhost:5901 scorpio That produces this error message: Permission denied (publickey). I found a reference to this command at: http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/research/dtg/attarchive/vnc/sshvnc.html I cannot figure out how to correct whatever the problem is. I am attempting to connect to a FreeBSD-6.3 machine running 'TightVNC' from a WinXP machine. The connection works fine using a regular connection; however, I would prefer to use 'ssh' and limit the port to localhost for security. Thanks! -- White Hat [EMAIL PROTECTED] Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Redirecting output
I am trying to find out exactly what is the difference between:
{command} 21 /dev/null
and
{command} dev/null 21
I have seen both used and have not been able to decipher what the difference
is. It would seem that the first one would be the one that is correct.
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Storing variable in Bash
I am attempting to write a script that will work on files stored in an array.
The function is supposed to strip the files extension and then store the name
of the file as a variable. This is what I have so far.
#!/usr/local/bin/bash
declare -a fname
declare -i count
declare -i limit
fname=( `ls *.sh | tr '\n' ' '` )
count=${#fname[*]}
limit=0
while [ ${limit} -lt ${count} ]; do
echo ${fname[$limit]} | sed -e ``/.sh/s///''
# do something here
limit=$((limit+1))
done
What I want to do is store the file in a variable. I have tried this:
F_Name=echo ${fname[$limit]} | sed -e ``/.sh/s///''
As well as:
F_Name=( `echo ${fname[$limit]} | sed -e ``/.sh/s///''` )
along with several different variants of it, but without success. I continually
receive an error message. Due to a particular situation, I cannot use
'basename' to accomplish this task.
Is there anyway that this can be done?
Thanks!
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' Openssl.cnf ' and ' .rand ' file
openssl 0.9.7e-p1 25 Oct 2004 I have not been able to find an answer to this question on Google, so I figured I had better ask it here. In the '/etc/ssl/openssl.cnf' file, there is an entry for: RANDFILE= $dir/private/.rand# private random number file Well, that file does not exist. I cannot find it anywhere on my system and I have not been able to figure out how to create it. Also, where could I locate some information on the 'openssl.cnf' file. There does not appear to be a 'man' page for it. I would like some more information on what all of the settings mean and possibly how to set them for my particular needs. Thanks! -- White Hat [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Configure to use WITH_DEBUG
I have a system that I am setting up that will only be used to test programs. I therefore want all programs built with debug code. To facilitate that task, I was wondering if I could put a global flag in the '/etc/make.conf' file. Assuming that would work, which of these is the better solution. 1)WITH_DEBUG 2)WITH_DEBUG=1 3)WITH_DEBUG=true 4)-DWITH_DEBUG If there is a better solution, I would appreciate hearing about it. Thanks! -- White Hat [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Configure to use WITH_DEBUG
In response to White Hat : I have a system that I am setting up that will only be used to test programs. I therefore want all programs built with debug code. To facilitate that task, I was wondering if I could put a global flag in the '/etc/make.conf' file. Assuming that would work, which of these is the better solution. 1) WITH_DEBUG 2) WITH_DEBUG=1 3) WITH_DEBUG=true 4) -DWITH_DEBUG If there is a better solution, I would appreciate hearing about it. #2 and #3 will work. The key is that the variable is set, not what it's set to. As a joke, you can do WITH_DEBUG=no in make.conf, and confuse the hell out of other sysadmins. Note that there may be additional port-specific debugging that would not be turned on by the global WITH_DEBUG, but you'll have to handle that on a port-by-port basis. -- Bill Moran http://www.potentialtech.com Interesting. Now if I want to turn DEBUG off for a particular port, would I use: 1)WITH_DEBUG 2)WITH_DEBUG= 3)WITH_DEBUG= One other question. From what I have been reading, the use of 'WITH_DEBUG' also prevents the stripping of debug code when the program is installed. Is that correct, or do I have to use another flag to insure that debug code is not stripped from the installed program? Thanks again! __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Determining the number of files in a directory
This is probably a dumb question; however, I never let a little thing like that bother me in the past. Using FreeBSD-6.2 and Bash, how do I determine the number of files in a given directory? I have tried all sorts of combinations using different flags with the 'ls' command; however, none of them displays the number of files in the directory. Other than, by writing a script to accomplish this feat, how could I achieve my goal? Thanks! -- White Hat [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Using OpenSSL from ports
Is there any real advantage to installing 'openssl' from ports rather than using the version installed in the base system? Other than the fact that the port version is slightly newer, is there any other major difference? Also, if I did install the port version, how would I insure that applications would use it as opposed to to the version in the base system? Thanks! -- White Hat [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
FTP CRON Script
This is driving me crazy. I have a small script that I run from CRON. It is run as a regular user and not as ROOT, although I have tried it both ways. It uploads SPAM to the 'knujon.com' site'. I have created a ~/.netrc file that looks like this: machine knujon.com login user password secret macdef spam put $1 quit Now, if I run the following command from the command prompt, the script works fine. echo \$ spam spam.zip | ftp -n ftp://user:[EMAIL PROTECTED] The above should all be on one line, although it may be shown split into two right now. However, if this is put into a bash script, and run if from CRON, I receive a mail with this error message: 'spam' macro not found. I have no idea what I am doing wrong. I have the $HOME, $SHELL and $PATH variables set in CRON. -- White Hat [EMAIL PROTECTED] Looking for a deal? Find great prices on flights and hotels with Yahoo! FareChase. http://farechase.yahoo.com/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Configuring FBSD to use HP Photosmart C6180
I just purchased a HP Photosmart C6180 All-in-One printer. It is connected to my network via a wireless network. The FBSD PC is hardwired to the router. The printer works flawlessly from the WinXP machines on the network. I installed the 'hplip' port without any difficulties. I tried snmpwalk and it worked fine. The problem is that I do not know how to configure FBSD to use the printer to print with. There does not seem to be any real information on how to configure a remote printer using the configuration that I have. I have tried different setting in '/etc/printcap' but without success. I cannot find any documentation on how to configure this port correctly. Perhaps, if someone is using this port they could assist me. Thanks -- White Hat [EMAIL PROTECTED] Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell. http://searchmarketing.yahoo.com/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Meaning of: kill -USR2
I have seen 'kill -USR2' used in some scripts; however, I am unable to find out exactly what it is referring to. The man page for 'kill' does not list any 'USR2' flag or signal, unless I am reading it incorrectly. Perhaps, someone can tell me exactly what this signal means. Thanks! -- White Hat [EMAIL PROTECTED] Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell. http://searchmarketing.yahoo.com/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Dell Wireless All-In-One 966 Printer
I am considering purchasing a Dell Wireless All-In-One 966 Printer, I really need a wireless printer and this one seems to be exactly what I am looking for. Unfortunately, I have not been able to secure a great deal of technical information regarding this device. Has anyone on this forum used this device with FreeBSD-6.2; and if so, where you successful? Thanks! -- White Hat [EMAIL PROTECTED] Moody friends. Drama queens. Your life? Nope! - their life, your story. Play Sims Stories at Yahoo! Games. http://sims.yahoo.com/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Build Failure: claws-mail-etpan_privacy-0.15.5_8
-mail/gtk -D_REENTRANT -I/usr/local/include/glib-2.0 -I/usr/local/lib/glib-2.0/include -D_THREAD_SAFE -I/usr/local/include/gtk-2.0 -I/usr/local/lib/gtk-2.0/include -I/usr/local/include/atk-1.0 -I/usr/local/include/cairo -I/usr/local/include/pango-1.0 -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/local/include/glib-2.0 -I/usr/local/lib/glib-2.0/include -I/usr/local/include/freetype2 -I/usr/local/include -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe -march=pentium2 -MT etpan_privacy_la-plugin.lo -MD -MP -MF .deps/etpan_privacy_la-plugin.Tpo -c plugin.c -fPIC -DPIC -o .libs/etpan_privacy_la-plugin.o plugin.c:67: error: conflicting types for 'plugin_done' /usr/local/include/claws-mail/common/plugin.h:45: error: previous declaration of 'plugin_done' was here gmake[2]: *** [etpan_privacy_la-plugin.lo] Error 1 gmake[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/mail/claws-mail-etpan_privacy/work/etpan-privacy-0.15.5/src' gmake[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 gmake[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/mail/claws-mail-etpan_privacy/work/etpan-privacy-0.15.5' gmake: *** [all] Error 2 *** Error code 2 Stop in /usr/ports/mail/claws-mail-etpan_privacy. Script done on Sun Jul 8 07:38:23 2007 -- White Hat [EMAIL PROTECTED] Get the Yahoo! toolbar and be alerted to new email wherever you're surfing. http://new.toolbar.yahoo.com/toolbar/features/mail/index.php ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Build with debug symbols
If I build a port with debugging information; i.e. 'make -g', is that debugging information stripped out when the program is installed? If so, is there anyway to prevent this from happening? I have been attempting to build 'claws-mail' with debugging information; however, when I run the program under 'gdb' that information does not appear to be present. I heard that there was a 'STRIP' flag I could set; however, I cannot find any definitive information regarding it. -- White Hat [EMAIL PROTECTED] Building a website is a piece of cake. Yahoo! Small Business gives you all the tools to get online. http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/webhosting ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
vidcontrol: getting active vty: Inappropriate ioctl for device
FreeBSD-6.2 Xfce 4 Desktop Environment version 4.4.1 (Xfce 4.4) When I switch to the terminal from within Xfce, I see this message displayed: vidcontrol: getting active vty: Inappropriate ioctl for device I have this entry in the ~/.bash_profile file: vidcontrol lightcyan There doesn't appear to be any problem, therefore I was just wondering why I am receiving this error message. -- White Hat [EMAIL PROTECTED] Don't pick lemons. See all the new 2007 cars at Yahoo! Autos. http://autos.yahoo.com/new_cars.html ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Perl Script in Apache
I tried to get an answer to this on the Apache forum,
but unfortunately, I was not successful.
Running Apache on a FreeBSD-6.2 machine, I am
attempting to set up a web page that changes a
specific image on a daily basis. I found a Perl script
that is supposed to do this, but it seems to fail. All
that is displayed is a red [X]. If I run the script
from the command line, it works, as it should. Well,
at least it displays the correct file name.
I assume I am doing something wrong with the actual
web page, or else I am incorrectly calling the Perl
script.
This is a commented version of the script.
=
To display an image simply use this in your HTML:
img
src=/usr/local/www/apache22/data/perl_script.pl
#!/usr/local/bin/perl
# find out the day of the year
my $day_of_year = (localtime(time()))[7];
# define the path where the images live . is the
current directory
$path = /usr/local/www/apache22/data/pics;
# read all the jpg, gif or png filenames from the
directory into an array
opendir(DIR, $path);
@files = grep { /\.(jpg|gif|png)$/i } readdir(DIR);
closedir(DIR);
# sort the filenames alphabetically
@files = sort( {lc $a cmp lc $b} @files);
# count the number of images
$no_of_images = scalar(@files);
# Now the fun bit :) We loop through the images once
before
# repeating them in the same order. If we divide the
current
# number of day of the year by the number of images in
the
# directory we get the number of times have repeated
the images.
# We are interested in the remainder of this
calculation (this
# is calculated using the % operator). Note - there
must be
# less than 365 images in the directory! We need to
subtract
# one from this number because arrays start at zero
not 1!
if ( $no_of_images = $day_of_year ) {
$image_to_use = ($day_of_year % $no_of_images)-1;
}
else {
$image_to_use = $day_of_year-1;
};
print Location: $files[$image_to_use]\n\n;
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gimp: install conflicts
FreeBSD-6.2 I have a question regarding gimp-devel, the meta-port for Gimp. This port installs both: graphics/gimp-app which has this in its Makefile: CONFLICTS= gimp-1.* gimpshop-[0-9]* gimp-app-devel-[0-9]* And graphics/gimp-app-devel Whose Makefile contains this notation: CONFLICTS= gimp-1.* gimp-app-[0-9]* Using portmanager to install gimp-devel results in the following files being installed: === gimp-app-2.3.15,1 /graphics/gimp-app-devel MISSING dependency of gimp-devel-2.3,2 /graphics/gimp-devel gutenprint-base-5.1.0_1 /print/gutenprint-base MISSING dependency of gimp-gutenprint-5.1.0 /print/gimp-gutenprint gimp-app-2.2.13_2,1 /graphics/gimp-app MISSING dependency of gimp-gutenprint-5.1.0 /print/gimp-gutenprint gutenprint-ijs-5.1.0/print/gutenprint-ijs MISSING dependency of gutenprint-5.1_1 /print/gutenprint gutenprint-5.1_1/print/gutenprint MISSING dependency of gimp-gutenprint-5.1.0 /print/gimp-gutenprint gimp-gutenprint-5.1.0 /print/gimp-gutenprint MISSING dependency of gimp-devel-2.3,2 /graphics/gimp-devel gimp-devel-2.3,2/graphics/gimp-devel MISSING gimp-devel-2.3,2 /graphics/gimp-devel The problem is that there appears to be a conflict between the two versions of gimp-app being installed. Is this correct, or am I reading this incorrectly? If I try to update these files, portmanager will complain about the conflict, although it does not do so on the initial installation. I can supply a copy of the build log if anyone wants it. -- White Hat [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reinstalling 'vlc-devel'
A few days ago, there was a warning in the '/usr/ports/UPDATING' file regarding removing '/multimedia/vlc' prior to updating. Anyway, I had 'vlc-devel' installed; however, I deleted it anyway to be safe. I now assume that I can simply reinstall the port via: make install make clean. Is that correct? Thanks! -- White Hat [EMAIL PROTECTED] Get your own web address. Have a HUGE year through Yahoo! Small Business. http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/domains/?p=BESTDEAL ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Westell USB network adapter
Having gotten sick of my cable company, I am considering switching to Verizon FIOS. They want to install a Actiontec Router Model MI424-WR. They recommend the Westell USB network adapter. Does anyone have any experience with that unit and FBSD. I can use any adapter I want as long as it works with their router. I can use a hard wired system; however, if I can get the wireless system working correctly, I would rather do it that way. There are three computers on this network, two WinXP and one FBSD-6.2 system. Thanks! -- White Hat [EMAIL PROTECTED] Never miss an email again! Yahoo! Toolbar alerts you the instant new Mail arrives. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/toolbar/features/mail/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Updating GCC
FreeBSD-6.2 The installed version is gcc-3.4.6, while the ports have version 4.3.0 available. If I install the newer version will it replace the older version? If not and I don't think it will, how do I force the use of the newer version of Gcc when making a port? I tried Googling for this but without success. The FreeBSD handbook doesn't seem to have any available information on this either. Ciao! -- White Hat [EMAIL PROTECTED] Don't get soaked. Take a quick peek at the forecast with the Yahoo! Search weather shortcut. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/shortcuts/#loc_weather ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Updating GCC
--- Chuck Swiger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mar 22, 2007, at 12:34 PM, White Hat wrote: Add: CC?= /usr/local/bin/gcc CXX?= /usr/local/bin/g++ ...to /etc/make.conf. You might also find looking at /usr/ports/Mk/ bsd.gcc.mk to be informative... Thanks! One other question; why the '?' mark? I was Googling for information on gcc, and it listed 'cxx=' sans a question mark in it. It means set CC to this value if it's not already set to something. Some ports already know they need a newer version of gcc (using USE_GCC=), and the make world infrastructure to rebuild the kernel/userland need to use the system-provided compiler, so using the question mark lets things which know better use the exact compiler they want. Thanks! I could not find that information anywhere, although I am sure it does exist. Finding fabulous fares is fun. Let Yahoo! FareChase search your favorite travel sites to find flight and hotel bargains. http://farechase.yahoo.com/promo-generic-14795097 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
win32-codecs-3.1.0.r1,1 marjed FORBIDDEN
I have noticed that port /multimedia/win32-codecs has been marked 'FORBIDDEN' for quite sometime now. This is the win32-codecs-3.1.0.r1,1 port. I would really like to get this port installed. Is there any way to circumvent this 'FORBIDDEN' problem? Perhaps someone knows when this port will be made available again? Thanks! -- White Hat [EMAIL PROTECTED] Need Mail bonding? Go to the Yahoo! Mail QA for great tips from Yahoo! Answers users. http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=listsid=396546091 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: win32-codecs-3.1.0.r1,1 marked FORBIDDEN
- Original Message From: Lars Eighner [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Tue, 13 Mar 2007, White Hat wrote: I have noticed that port /multimedia/win32-codecs has been marked 'FORBIDDEN' for quite sometime now. This is the win32-codecs-3.1.0.r1,1 port. I would really like to get this port installed. Is there any way to circumvent this 'FORBIDDEN' problem? Perhaps someone knows when this port will be made available again? If you don't know enough to comment out the FORBIDDEN line in the Makefile, perhaps you shouldn't have this port. Well, that is an option. From what I have discovered, the problem is with the QuickTime codec. It has been a problem for an extended period of time. Perhaps the maintainer should just remove that option form the port, or issue a warning that, that codec cannot be installed without specifically modifying the 'makefile' or perhaps using a specific directive on the command line. Then again, why make things simple. BTW, I am subscribed to the list. There is no need to Cc: me. I don't need, nor did I request it. -- White Hat [EMAIL PROTECTED] Clark's Law: Sufficiently advanced cluelessness is indistinguishable from malice. Need Mail bonding? Go to the Yahoo! Mail QA for great tips from Yahoo! Answers users. http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=listsid=396546091 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
DEFAULT CFLAGS SETTING
What is the default CFLAGS setting in FBSD-6.2 and would it improve performance any to set CFLAGS=Os as opposed to the default setting? -- White Hat [EMAIL PROTECTED] Not only is life a bItch, it has puppies. Adrienne E. Gusoff We won't tell. Get more on shows you hate to love (and love to hate): Yahoo! TV's Guilty Pleasures list. http://tv.yahoo.com/collections/265 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
mplayer (gmplayer) with xfce4.4.0
FreeBSD-6.2 xfce-4.4.0 I posted this on the xfce4 list; however, they thought it might be a FreeBSD problem. Scenario: Right click on desktop Click Multimedia Click mplayer This error message is displayed: [ws] Shared Memory Extensions Error I can start mplayer from a terminal window, but not directly on the xfce4 desktop, now will gmplayer work either. The same error message is displayed. I am hoping someone has a useful suggestion. White Hat [EMAIL PROTECTED] 8:00? 8:25? 8:40? Find a flick in no time with the Yahoo! Search movie showtime shortcut. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/shortcuts/#news ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Opera + Spelling
FreeBSD-6.2 Opera-9.10.20061214 xfce-4.4.0 I seem to be having a problem using the 'spell checking' feature form within Opera. When I click on the 'spell' icon, I am transfered to a page that tells me I have to install GNU Aspell . I already have this install I believe. This is the output of 'pkg_info aspell*: Information for aspell-0.60.5: Comment: Spelling checker with better suggestion logic than ispell Required by: claws-mail-2.7.2 claws-mail-etpan_privacy-0.15.5_2 claws-mail-gtkhtml2_viewer-0.14.1_1 gtkspell-2.0.11_4 opera-9.10.20061214 Therefore, assuming that it is installed, why is Opera not finding it, and what can I do to alleviate the problem? I am running 'XFCE4' as an unprivileged user if that makes any difference. Thanks! -- White Hat [EMAIL PROTECTED] How many men does it take to open a beer? None. It should be opened by the time she brings it to you. Never miss an email again! Yahoo! Toolbar alerts you the instant new Mail arrives. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/toolbar/features/mail/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Viewing on remote PC
FreeBSD-6.2 I have a FBSD computer that I need to access via ssh from a WinXP machine running 'putty'. I am using ssh certificates for authorization. No problem there. I can do anything I want when I access the FBSD machine in this manner, except run something like KDE or XFCE4. I thought I made all of the required changes to the ssh_config and sshd_config as well as 'putty', but evidently not. Situation: I have 'startx' set to start 'xfce4' presently. If I type: 'startx' while logged in via ssh, xfce4 will start on the FBSD machine just fine. However, on the WinXP PC with 'putty', all I see are the start up messages on the screen. The actual GUI, etc. never appears. This makes using the program impossible from a remote location. I am sure I am doing something really stupid here. Perhaps someone could point me i the right direction. Thanks! -- White Hat [EMAIL PROTECTED] Expecting? Get great news right away with email Auto-Check. Try the Yahoo! Mail Beta. http://advision.webevents.yahoo.com/mailbeta/newmail_tools.html ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Using SSL certificates instead of password
I am trying to set up one of my servers so that it can be accessed only by a user with a proper SSL certificate. I want to disable the use of passwords completely. I cannot seem to locate a good 'How To' regarding this. In addition, the server, a FreeBSD-6.2 machine, will be accessed by WinXP machines using Putty. Where can I locate some good information on how to set up such a configuration? Thanks! -- White Hat [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cheap talk? Check out Yahoo! Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call rates. http://voice.yahoo.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Portmanager - not working after ports change
There was a change in the ports system - /usr/ports/UPDATING 20070205 - which now renders portmanager unable to run correctly. While it is possible to update a single port; i.e., portmanager /path/to-port/, if I attempt to do a general ports update; i.e., portmanager -u, I receive the following error message: percentDone-=0 = 100 - ( 100 * ( oldPortsDbQTY-=6 / oldPortsDbTOTALIZER-=6 )) cd: can't cd to /usr/ports/sysutils/portmanager rBsdPortMkPatch 0.4.1_7 error: bsd.port.mk /usr/ports/Mk unable to restored from back up cp /usr/local/share/portmanager/bsd.port.mk-BACKUP /usr/ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk I tried deinstalling portmanager and then installing it from its new port directory; however, that failed to alleviate the problem. Has anyone else experienced this problem, and perhaps have a solution? Thanks! -- White Hat [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cheap talk? Check out Yahoo! Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call rates. http://voice.yahoo.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Best laptop for Freebsd
On Thursday November 16, 2006 at 06:08:02 (AM) Zbigniew Szalbot wrote: I would expect it to shut up and work We have that expectation for a lot of our employees; however, as in your scenario, it has not panned out. -- White Hat I never worry about being driven to drink; I just worry about being driven home. W. C. Fields Sponsored Link Rates near historic lows - $200,000 mortgage for $660/ month - http://yahoo.ratemarketplace.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Virtual Users sharing main account
I doubt if this is possible; however, I thought I would inquire anyway. Assuming a domain name of 'company.com', we want to add a group of users who could send and receive mail using this domain name; however, we do not want to give them shell accounts. They would access the system simply to send or receive their email. I have SSL/TLS set up and working correctly. At this time we also do not want to set up sub domains like: 'sales.company.com' either, although it may come to that. I read through the Virtual documentation and I do not think it is possible. Is that correct, or is there a way to accomplish it. Thank you! -- White Hat [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Moving to new PC
From: Jonathan Horne [EMAIL PROTECTED] [...] the update for today is, that it is still going, but there has been quite a bit of delay while the ports stops on the knobs screen. each time i see one, i hit the 'ok', but this is causing the obvious delays. other than that, so far, no errors or halts. I have an idea that it will work just fine. I already have a custom make.conf file that contains most of the knobs for apache, kde, etc that I have installed. I guess copying the config files would also be a good idea. Then just setting BATCH=yes would complete the process. Thanks! ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Moving to new PC
I am planning on migrating to a new PC in the near future, perhaps after FBSD 6.2 is released. I was therefore wondering if the following scenario was possible. 1) Tar up the /var/db/pkg directory on old system 2) Untar the collection into the same location on new PC 3) Run portsnap to get an up-to-date ports collection 4) Run portmanager to actually install the ports. I have close to 500 entries in the directory and trying to install them all manually is a lot of work. Of course there are META packages like KDE, but still I would have a lot of manual work involved to get it all back to the same state I had it in on the old PC. It would seem to me that by doing it in this fashion all of the programs would be built correctly for the new system which is going to be quite a bit different than the one I have now. In theory this seems to work, but I wanted to know if it is actually possible before attempting it. -- White Hat [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Moving to new PC
--- Jonathan Horne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] sounds interesting enough. if you will supply the portmanager command syntax, ill supply the test computer, and post the results. I guess I would want to run portmanager in a force update mode. portmanager -u -f -l -y should do it. It will create a log in /var/log/portmanager.log so at least we can see what transpires. The '-y' flag may not be necessary, but should not hurt. It will force it to answer yes to any questions. The only problem that I could forsee is the building of Java. Those files would have to be download prior to the build and installed in the /usr/ports/distfiles directory. I think portmanager by default does not do Java. That means that the pm-020.conf file will have to be modified. Not a big deal though. -- White Hat [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: SCSI vs. SATA (was Re: Upgrading our mail server)
--- Bill Moran [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In response to Frank Bonnet [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Gerard Seibert wrote: Frank Bonnet wrote: [...] I need SCSI Disks of course , budget is around 10K$ Why the insistence on SCSI? Is there any reason that SATA or RAID with SATA is not acceptable? Just curious. Because I want it Has anyone every verified whether or not SATA has the problems that plagued ATA? Such as crappy quality and lying caches? Personally, I still demand SCSI on production servers because it still seems as if: a) The performance is still better b) The reliability is still better But I haven't taken a comprehensive look at the SATA offerings. It also seems as if SATA is more limiting. Most SCSI cards can support 16 devices, does SATA have similar offerings? I know it's not common, but if you need that many spindles, you need them! I have see benchmarks on the PC-Mag site or maybe it was PC-World that would seem to indicate that all things being equal, SATA would outperform SCSI. I have a few friends using SATA and RAID without any problems. My next server, hopefully by years end, will use that sort of configuration. Sorry, but that is about all I can tell you. -- White Hat [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Firefox+Flash
FreeBSD 6.1 I have been trying to get a few of my friends to try FBSD on their PCs without much success. One of the major problems is the inability to get flash to work properly to display videos available on Google. I know that the linux-flash port is marked broken, so that it out. How else can I get flash to work so I can perhaps persuade them to try FBSD? I have KDE and Firefox installed obviously. I tried loading a few of the flash packages available in the ports, but they did not not seem to work. Thanks! -- White Hat [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Firefox+Flash
--- michael johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK, assuming I remove Firefox and install linux-firefox, which what version of flash in the ports tree am I suppose to install to make it all work? -- White Hat [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Making startup order static
--- Alex Zbyslaw [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] I believe 6.1 uses rcorder for scripts from /usr/local/etc/rc.d, in which case you might be able to create local patches in the relevant ports which added appropriate e.g. # BEFORE: # PROVIDES: # REQUIRE: lines to force the order you want. This assumes that they do not use .sh suffixed scripts and that you use cvsup rather than portsnap, which I believe would trash your local patches. I do employ portsnap, so that would probably not be a viable solution. I am presently looking into implementing one that was suggested by a recent poster. I would have thought that there would have existed a simpler method to control on a permanent basis the loading of programs. I guess not. -- White Hat [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Making startup order static
FreeBSD 6.1 I need to keep several programs starting in a particular order. clamav-clamd clamav-freshclam clamsmtpd saslauthd dovecot postfix fetchmail By default, they do not start in that order. I have modified the rc.d files to force them to start in the order specified above. The problem is that every time I update these programs the rc.d startup file is modified which destroys the changes I have made. This then requires me to recreate the modifications to force the start up order I require. Is there anyway I can achieve this goal in a simplified manner? I thought perhaps there might be something I could add to the /etc/rc.conf file; however, I have not discovered it. -- White Hat [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Making startup order static
--- Martin Werner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, thought about using PROVIDE and REQUIRE keywords (see /usr/local/etc/rc.d/clamav-clamd.sh resp. clamav-freshclam.sh Maybe you might want to have a look into man rc or man rcorder Cheers, -Martin- FreeBSD 6.1 I need to keep several programs starting in a particular order. clamav-clamd clamav-freshclam clamsmtpd saslauthd dovecot postfix fetchmail By default, they do not start in that order. I have modified the rc.d files to force them to start in the order specified above. The problem is that every time I update these programs the rc.d startup file is modified which destroys the changes I have made. This then requires me to recreate the modifications to force the start up order I require. Is there anyway I can achieve this goal in a simplified manner? I thought perhaps there might be something I could add to the /etc/rc.conf file; however, I have not discovered it. Martin, I don't think that you understood what I meant. Either that or I described it incorrectly. I did modify the rc.d files using BEFORE: and REQUIRE:. That works just fine. The problem is if one of those files is updated, the rc.d file is overwritten resulting in the loss of my customization. I therefore have to manually edit those files again. I was trying to find someway to circumvent that procedure. -- White Hat [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Making startup order static
--- J.D. Bronson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: how about putting them in /usr/local/etc/rc.d and then using a numeric to start them 001file.sh 002file.sh or create a script with just one file.sh ? I had considered that approach. The problem is if the program is updated it will will write a new file to the rc.d directory. Since I sort of automate the updating of my system, if I was not vigilante in inspecting the rc.d directory, I could very well end up with two scripts starting the same program. I am not sure how that would work; however, I would assume it would not be a good thing. Furthermore, I am not sure if the numeric thing would really work unless I also modified the REQUIRE: and BEFORE: settings in the scripts(s). I was hoping that there would be a master config file that I could manipulate so that each script is started in a precise order irregardless of its name. -- White Hat [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Making startup order static
--- Duane Hill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] I also had the same scenario with order in startup. That was rectified by setting up one script to start each of the items in order. I am assuming that you removed the scripts that you called from the rc.d directory. What transpired when you updated a program? Assuming it created a file in rc.d, you then had to manually remove it correct? I am thinking that I could create a script that would check to see if a file existed in rc.d that I had chosen to start manually and if so it would then delete or move the file. However, I would have to ensure that, that script started prior to any other script. It really should not be this difficult. A master file dictating the start order of every script in rc.d would be a cool idea. -- White Hat [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Making startup order static
--- Duane Hill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] No. I believe I used the startup script for sa-spamd as a starting point. I'm sure others could be used as a starting point as well. I'm still in the learning process. That way I could remove the ones from the rc.conf that I wanted to start in order and use the 'force' option when loading them from the custom startup script. So, as an example, if you do not have a 'spamd=YES' in the rc.conf and you attempt to start spamd from the console, it will not start. That is because of the sa-spamd startup script. If you attempt to start spamd from the console and supply 'force start', it will start. Therefore, in my startup script I left it out of the rc.conf and used the 'force start' in my custom startup script. I can see how that could work. It is still a hack, but better than nothing. If I cannot come up with anything else, I will give that a try. [...] -- White Hat [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: solaris
--- backyard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] I think the important thing to remember in all this is every system using one version of UNIX over another is one more machine not running NT. And since NT is single handedly stealing code, and destroying internationally set standards I think the more UNIX the merrier. Even if you're running a Mac... I find the most important thing is trying to get people to realize a computer isn't ment to tell you what you can or cannot do, an Administrator should be able to kill any running process on a system, you should be able to choose what software is installed on your computer, your web browser or PNP system shouldn't allow Viruses or software in general to be installed on your machine without your knowledge or consent, and most importantly you should be able to take your hard drive out of your machine and put it in another one and keep on going. IMHO, you are way over simplifying this. An OS should accomplish easily what an end users deems necessary. A very large majority of users simply want to use their PCs for email, occasional word processing and possible game playing. Perhaps even playing a video or music. Most of these can be far more easily done on a WinXP machine then anything now available in the *nix family. I have spent hours and still can not get flash to work correctly on my PC. Getting a printer to work can be a chore. There was ever a post just the other day regarding the simple use of a CD Drive. I have seen questions asked about using a floppy drive. The list goes on and on. Most seven year olds would be lost on a on FreeBSD machine. FreeBSD is an excellent tool, but it does not serve every purpose excellently. I use it as a server both for mail, and web use. I leave the printing and word processing/spreadsheet stuff on Windows where it works quite nicely. I have tried Open Office. No matter what anyone says, it is just not as full featured as Word 2003. It is not even close. I agree that a large portion of the problems relate to the fact that vendors are not inclined to produce drivers for their products, which in many cases lends these devices either useless or crippled in a FreeBSD environment. However, you cannot hold a gun to their head and expect them to expend the resources required to satisfy every OS available if the monetary returns do not justify it. That is simple economics 101. By the way, you can shut down processes, etc. on a WinXP platform; you just have to know where to look. That is similar to any other OS. You are missing the concept behind Windows. It is designed to be a drop in and run system. Dozens of user polls have shown that the average user just wants to use his PC. He/she does not want to read tons of manuals and spend hours in a frustrating attempt to get it to run. The average user does not care about configuring firewall, AV or Spyware, etc. Just drop in a copy of ZA with perhaps Sunbelt's Counter Spy and they are on their way. They want a new printer - no problem. Drop in the CD, it configures the PC for the printer and the jobs done. Please, don't tell me about the friend who did that and it did not work. Nothing always works. Usually though the problem can be attributed to 'PEBKC'. Solaris is cool if it will run, FreeBSD will run if Solaris won't; lets band together and destroy Micrsoft... :) Please, I just had a friend laid of from Intel. The last thing I would want to see is MS out of business and thousands of people out of work because of your seemingly unqualified hated of a product. If you don't like it, don't use it. How much simpler can it get? I seriously doubt that you can submit proof of a single individual laid off because MS does not embrace your philosophical beliefs. -- White Hat __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: solaris
--- Freminlins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 06/09/06, White Hat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have tried Open Office. No matter what anyone says, it is just not as full featured as Word 2003. It is not even close. True, but also compare the cost. Not even close... Immaterial. the singularly most important feature is suitability to task. If it is free and it does not work, what good is it? He/she does not want to read tons of manuals and spend hours in a frustrating attempt to get it to run. This is where you are completely wrong. I work for an ISP. I'm not responsible for tech support but I keep my ear to the ground. A VERY large number of callers have problems configuring Outlook Express, for example. No matter what the polls say, the experience is often very different. They may not read the manuals (because they are no longer supplied), they just ring a call centre instead. Yes, the lack of documentation is a shame. Usually it can be obtained for an additonal cost which I suppose is better than nothing. The same lack of documentation plagues every facet of software today. Of course, it has been a boon for the after market book manual publishers. BTW, you have failed to document so called help line assistants who are nothing more than company mouth pieces who have at most a superficial knowledge of the product that they are suppose to be assistant a customer with. I had the experience of talking with a customer support moron who tried to sell me a new router while I attempted to explain the router was fine, but the installation CD was defective. I eventually just sent it back for a replacement. Usually these individuals are barely equipped to handle the job they are given. However, you have made my point. If a user cannot decipher how to configure a simple thing like Outlook Express, and there are programs available that will do it for them, then how are they suppose to be capable of handling a CLI OS like FreeBSD? It boggles the mind -- at least mine. Worse, the configuration of OE is handled by a wizard. It is truly sad when a user cannot configure something when it is simplified down to that level. The average user does not care about configuring firewall, AV or Spyware, etc. Just drop in a copy of ZA with perhaps Sunbelt's Counter Spy and they are on their way. That's one statement contradicting the other. How? Drop in two CDs or download the programs, run them and case closed. Neither one requires any significant configuration. The defaults work just fine for most users. You could eliminate the Counter Spy since ZA has its own proprietary SpyWare program, but I just happen to prefer Counter Spy. BTW, if MS actually does market it 'One Care' program suite, that might even obsolete that entire process. I don't think they will offer it with the OS though. Too much of a chance the government will protest. Personally I believe a company should be allowed to market its product anyway it wants without government intervention; however, that is entirely another story. -- __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: solaris
--- Jeff Rollin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 06/09/06, White Hat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Freminlins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 06/09/06, White Hat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have tried Open Office. No matter what anyone says, it is just not as full featured as Word 2003. It is not even close. True, but also compare the cost. Not even close... Immaterial. the singularly most important feature is suitability to task. If it is free and it does not work, what good is it? In what way does it not work? It's enough for many people, so why should they pay more? I never said that anyone should pay more. I simply said that it was not suitable for the tasks that both I, and primarily my wife, use it for. Again, the price of an object is secondary to its usefulness. At the very least it has to be compared against it. He/she does not want to read tons of manuals and spend hours in a frustrating attempt to get it to run. This is where you are completely wrong. I work for an ISP. I'm not responsible for tech support but I keep my ear to the ground. A VERY large number of callers have problems configuring Outlook Express, for example. No matter what the polls say, the experience is often very different. They may not read the manuals (because they are no longer supplied), they just ring a call centre instead. Yes, the lack of documentation is a shame. Usually it can be obtained for an additonal cost which I suppose is better than nothing. The same lack of documentation plagues every facet of software today. Of course, it has been a boon for the after market book manual publishers. BTW, you have failed to document so called help line assistants who are nothing more than company mouth pieces who have at most a superficial knowledge of the product that they are suppose to be assistant a customer with. I had the experience of talking with a customer support moron who tried to sell me a new router while I attempted to explain the router was fine, but the installation CD was defective. I eventually just sent it back for a replacement. Usually these individuals are barely equipped to handle the job they are given. However, you have made my point. If a user cannot decipher how to configure a simple thing like Outlook Express, and there are programs available that will do it for them, then how are they suppose to be capable of handling a CLI OS like FreeBSD? It boggles the mind -- at least mine. Worse, the configuration of OE is handled by a wizard. It is truly sad when a user cannot configure something when it is simplified down to that level. So on the one hand you think that for the sake of the morons FreeBSD should made into something other than a CLI OS (which if you put KDE or GNOME on it it already is, btw), and on the other hand you despise the morons who can't even use a wizard? I never inferred that FBSD should evolve into anything. It performs quite nicely as a CLI. Printing is not all that great, and the use of many devices such as web cams can prove to be a chore to install, but that has more to due with the creators of those devices and lack thereof of proper drivers, etc. Even devices that do work are not always fully supported. Again, most likely the device creators are not supporting the device under FreeBSD, or any other OS except win32. Again, it is all about monetary return. I cannot blame them, I like to eat too. Furthermore, I never said I despise anyone, except perhaps pseudo technical help employees. However, even they have to eat. I stated that it was a sad day when someone could not ever configure OE, even when assisted with a wizard. I think it is rather obvious that these individuals would not be the target market for FBSD. The average user does not care about configuring firewall, AV or Spyware, etc. Just drop in a copy of ZA with perhaps Sunbelt's Counter Spy and they are on their way. That's one statement contradicting the other. How? Drop in two CDs or download the programs, run them and case closed. Neither one requires any significant configuration. The defaults work just fine for most users. You could eliminate the Counter Spy since ZA has its own proprietary SpyWare program, but I just happen to prefer Counter Spy. A decent router does not require any significant configuration either, despite the fact that it should include a firewall. And if you use a router/firewall, you shouldn't need to configure a firewall on your desktop/server either. The key word here is 'significant'. That varies by user to user. I believe that the use of an internal firewall might very well be dictated by a users LAN configuration. I only have four units networked together, with only one avenue to the Internet, so perhaps I don't need an extensive
Re: solaris
--- Freminlins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 06/09/06, White Hat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Immaterial. the singularly most important feature is suitability to task. If it is free and it does not work, what good is it? It depends what you are using it for. You made a comment about occaisonal word processing (pasted below). For such use OpenOffice is perfectly good enough. That is a totally unqualified evaluation. While it may be totally suitable for one individual, that in no way infers that it meets the requirements of another. There is no way you can define an end users requirements based solely on your own usage. Yes, the lack of documentation is a shame. In Windows, yes. In FreeBSD I can't see a lack. You are kidding right. I can find vastly more documentation available for a win32 machine than for FBSD. In fact, the lact of documentation is one of the reasons that support groups like this evolved. To my great dismay, I am forced to search for and then download documentation via the web. Even then, that is often dated. Not anyones fault, it is just the way it goes. The same lack of documentation plagues every facet of software today. No it doesn't. FreeBSD is well documented. It is above average, I will agree. However, if it were really perfect then this forum would not exist. However, you have made my point. No I haven't. I have contradicted your point. You said A very large majority of users simply want to use their PCs for email, occasional word processing and possible game playing. I am saying that using XP as you suggested is not as easy as you suggest for a very large number of people. If that were true, MS would not rule 90+ percent of the PCs in use today. Why do you think users in third rate countries pirate MS when they could get FBSD for free? I would not want to insult anyone; however, if you cannot install an MS operating system then perhaps you should consider another hobby. Even my wife's sister can handle that project, and that is a woman who considers a can opener a high tech device. If a user cannot decipher how to configure a simple thing like Outlook Express, and there are programs available that will do it for them, then how are they suppose to be capable of handling a CLI OS like FreeBSD? It boggles the mind -- at least mine. Worse, the configuration of OE is handled by a wizard. It is truly sad when a user cannot configure something when it is simplified down to that level. It's not so much the wizards, but third party applications like virus scanners which change those settings which is a part of the problem. But you are not quite comparing apples with apples. Configuring Thunderbird on FreeBSD is near enough identical to doing the same on Windows. I wouldn't however expect a complete computer novice to be able to set up a FreeBSD box without some help. You have users here with 10+ years experience who run int problems. It is just the nature of the beast. It comes with the territory. How? Drop in two CDs or download the programs, run them and case closed. Neither one requires any significant configuration. The defaults work just fine for most users. You could eliminate the Counter Spy since ZA has its own proprietary SpyWare program, but I just happen to prefer Counter Spy. Your statement is simply wrong. AV and anti-spyware DO require configuration. And they do require installing, and maybe downloading, and being kept up to date. The defaults certainly don't work all the time in all cases. Have a look here: Obviously it required installation. Before you can install, it is again obvious that you must secure the item. One size definitely does not fit all. What is your point? http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/09/06/faulty_ca_update/;. I have heard of broken installations for Norton numerous times. And trying to help these customers is time-consuming for our techies. Norton is pathetic, that I will agree with you on that one. That is why I switched three years ago to ZA. It has never given me a moment of trouble, although the CA AV it uses by default is not RFC 2595 compliant which was causing my network problems. One I corrected it though, everything was back to normal. BTW, 'time consuming for your techies'? Ah gee, like what are they paid for? To stand around and kiss each others butt. I am sick of over paid techies who have no working knowledge of what they are doing. If they find their job to stressful, quit! Please do me one favor, do not CC me. I am continually getting two copies of these. I subscribe to the list. I don't send you duplicate copies and therefore would appreciate the same cutesy. Perhaps my address was already inserted by a previous poster. If so, please do remove it. Thank You! -- White Hat [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam
Re: solaris
--- Jeff Rollin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 06/09/06, White Hat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Jeff Rollin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 06/09/06, White Hat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Freminlins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 06/09/06, White Hat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] Immaterial. the singularly most important feature is suitability to task. If it is free and it does not work, what good is it? In what way does it not work? It's enough for many people, so why should they pay more? I never said that anyone should pay more. I simply said that it was not suitable for the tasks that both I, and primarily my wife, use it for. No, you said it does not work. It's up there in black and white. Again, the price The inference was if the object is not suitable for a designated task, then it is not a viable option. Hence, it doesn't work. I had thought that was obvious. The inference was certainly there. I did not spell it out since this is a forum and I had no inclination to turn this into a thesis. However, it is also obvious that price is your determining factor. Nothing wrong with that as long as it is declared up front. [...] That's a good idea. And I should be able to procure products and settle scores anyway I want without government intervention, too. /sarcasm Way out of line. Not out of line. Thee are many, many examples of companies already getting away with breaking the few rules that are there: why should those rules be relaxed so that they get away with even MORE at the expense of the buyer? No where did I even suggest the idea of retribution. Nor did I, as I noted, that was sarcasm. Labeling it as sarcasm does not change the fact that it was exactly what you meant. If I wear a T-shirt that has emblazoned on it: touch me an I will kill you, and someone actually touched me and I make good on the treat, I cannot claim that they were forewarned. By the way, what bothers you so much regarding free enterprise, with the possible exception that you are not experiencing any monetary rewards from it? I personally I detest what many corporations proceed to do. However, it is their money and they have that right. If you don't like their product, either ignore it or make a better one. Bitching is for losers. -- White Hat [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Errors with Dovecot
FreeBSD 6.1 STABLE Dovecot 1.0 rc2 Postfix 2.4 I recently installed Dovecot on my system to act as an LDA and POP server. I have a simple mbox setup running with Postfix. Dovecot works as a POP server, but will not operate an an LDA. When I attempt to use it as such the mail gets hung up in the mail queue. This is from the dovecot log file: deliver(jerry): Error: open(/var/mail/.temp.whitehat.football.net.1928.e70d4dd9d14583ce) failed: Permission denied deliver(jerry): Error: file_lock_dotlock() failed with mbox file /var/mail/jerry: Permission denied This log continues with the same error message for each message it attempts to deliver. Postfix can deliver the mail without any problems however. I cannot seem to figure out what I am doing wrong. I assume someone else in this forum is also using Dovecot as an LDA. Perhaps they can enlighten me. Thanks! Jerry __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
