Re: Help with su on 6.3
At 08:16 AM 2/14/2008, Alex Zbyslaw wrote: Derek Ragona wrote: I usually just set the shell to /usr/bin/false or /usr/sbin/nologin for users like these. Of course you can't test these interactively with su. If you want to do that, give the account a valid login shell, test it, then set it to false or nologin. It's not clear to me what you mean by you can't test these interactively with su. If you mean you can't su to them and get a shell; that's wrong. su -m account_with_fake_shell --Alex Alex, What I meant to say was that you can: su -m account_with_fake_shell But you can't: su - account_with_fake_shell and then test any command and scripts in the user's environment. -Derek -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Help with su on 6.3
On 2/12/08, Derek Ragona [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 06:16 PM 2/12/2008, Neil Gruending wrote: Hi, Today I upgraded my computer to 6.3, but now root can't su to other users. I login as a regular user (neil) over ssh and I can su to become root. But now root can't su to other users. For example, if I do su svn I get su: Sorry. My boot rc scripts do the same thing where I use su. Everything worked fine when I was running 6.2. Any help is appreciated. I followed the binary upgrade procedure in the release announcement. Thanks Neil Did you run mergemaster? Check your users still exist in /etc/passwd? -Derek -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. I didn't run mergemaster because http://www.freebsd.org/releases/6.3R/announce.html didn't say to. However, I did try su at the console with the same result, but I was getting pam_acct_mgmt: authentication errors. I checked /etc/master.passwd and noticed that the accounts I was trying to su to were locked. I tried passwd account as root on an account that wasn't working and once I set a password it I could su to it as long as logins were enabled. I tried another account with disabled logins and got This account is currently not available. Both of these accounts only exist to let servers run as different users. What's the proper way to set them up? Maybe that's my issue instead. I only noticed this because the servers weren't starting because the init scripts can't su to the right users anymore. Thanks, Neil ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Help with su on 6.3
At 12:51 PM 2/13/2008, Neil Gruending wrote: On 2/12/08, Derek Ragona [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 06:16 PM 2/12/2008, Neil Gruending wrote: Hi, Today I upgraded my computer to 6.3, but now root can't su to other users. I login as a regular user (neil) over ssh and I can su to become root. But now root can't su to other users. For example, if I do su svn I get su: Sorry. My boot rc scripts do the same thing where I use su. Everything worked fine when I was running 6.2. Any help is appreciated. I followed the binary upgrade procedure in the release announcement. Thanks Neil Did you run mergemaster? Check your users still exist in /etc/passwd? -Derek -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. I didn't run mergemaster because http://www.freebsd.org/releases/6.3R/announce.html didn't say to. However, I did try su at the console with the same result, but I was getting pam_acct_mgmt: authentication errors. I checked /etc/master.passwd and noticed that the accounts I was trying to su to were locked. I tried passwd account as root on an account that wasn't working and once I set a password it I could su to it as long as logins were enabled. I tried another account with disabled logins and got This account is currently not available. Both of these accounts only exist to let servers run as different users. What's the proper way to set them up? Maybe that's my issue instead. I only noticed this because the servers weren't starting because the init scripts can't su to the right users anymore. Thanks, Neil Well you should always read and follow UPDATING in /usr/src when doing an upgrade. I usually just set the shell to /usr/bin/false or /usr/sbin/nologin for users like these. Of course you can't test these interactively with su. If you want to do that, give the account a valid login shell, test it, then set it to false or nologin. -Derek -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Help with su on 6.3
At 06:16 PM 2/12/2008, Neil Gruending wrote: Hi, Today I upgraded my computer to 6.3, but now root can't su to other users. I login as a regular user (neil) over ssh and I can su to become root. But now root can't su to other users. For example, if I do su svn I get su: Sorry. My boot rc scripts do the same thing where I use su. Everything worked fine when I was running 6.2. Any help is appreciated. I followed the binary upgrade procedure in the release announcement. Thanks Neil Did you run mergemaster? Check your users still exist in /etc/passwd? -Derek -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Help with su on 6.3
Hi, su works on my 6.3 - but without ssh - just as expected. Do you have physical access to the machine? Try it without ssh to help isolate the problem. Erich Neil Gruending wrote: Hi, Today I upgraded my computer to 6.3, but now root can't su to other users. I login as a regular user (neil) over ssh and I can su to become root. But now root can't su to other users. For example, if I do su svn I get su: Sorry. My boot rc scripts do the same thing where I use su. Everything worked fine when I was running 6.2. Any help is appreciated. I followed the binary upgrade procedure in the release announcement. Thanks Neil ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Help with router problem
My feeling is that's something in my router that BSD doesn't like and Linux doesn't care (since it works). Instead of posting my custom kernel config, I decided that I will give it another two radical tries: - first, I'll compile a generic kernel - second, if the first attempt is unsuccessful, I will try a complete reinstall of FreeBSD, to get rid of all the configuration tweaks I made If it will not work after that, I will remove BSD from my system. I don't want to waste your time and mine dealing with this annoying issue anymore. Thanks a lot, Eugen On Feb 7, 2008 10:07 AM, Derek Ragona [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 08:24 PM 2/6/2008, Eugen wrote: I tried everything you guys told me and it still doesn't work : - tried to set a static address as Derek indicated - commented out the ipv6 line in rc.conf, even if it was already set to NO - the answer to Kevin's questions follow: # ping -I dc0 192.168.1.1 ping: invalid multicast interface: `dc0' # arp -a ? (192.168.1.1) at (incomplete) on dc0 [ethernet] # ifconfig -a dc0: flags=8843UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST metric 0 mtu 1500 options=8VLAN_MTU ether 00:14:cf:52:b4:17 inet 192.168.1.33 netmask 0xff00 broadcast 192.168.1.255 media: Ethernet autoselect (100baseTX full-duplex) status: active lo0: flags=8049UP,LOOPBACK,RUNNING,MULTICAST metric 0 mtu 16384 inet6 fe80::1%lo0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x2 inet6 ::1 prefixlen 128 inet 127.0.0.1 netmask 0xff00 ping 192.168.1.1 and traceroute 192.168.1.1 give Network is unreachable I even connected directly to the cable modem as it was before I bought the router and... surprise: it works! Put the router back and BSD stops working again. I'm writing this post from Linux, so this one works. When it is connected directly to the router, what IP are you using then? Can you post your ifconfig -a output then, and when it is connected to the router. What router are you using? How do you have it set-up? What are the IP settings for the router? What are the DHCP settings? Can the router ping itself or other hosts? -Derek ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Help with router problem
At 08:24 PM 2/6/2008, Eugen wrote: I tried everything you guys told me and it still doesn't work : - tried to set a static address as Derek indicated - commented out the ipv6 line in rc.conf, even if it was already set to NO - the answer to Kevin's questions follow: # ping -I dc0 192.168.1.1 ping: invalid multicast interface: `dc0' # arp -a ? (192.168.1.1) at (incomplete) on dc0 [ethernet] # ifconfig -a dc0: flags=8843UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST metric 0 mtu 1500 options=8VLAN_MTU ether 00:14:cf:52:b4:17 inet 192.168.1.33 netmask 0xff00 broadcast 192.168.1.255 media: Ethernet autoselect (100baseTX full-duplex) status: active lo0: flags=8049UP,LOOPBACK,RUNNING,MULTICAST metric 0 mtu 16384 inet6 fe80::1%lo0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x2 inet6 ::1 prefixlen 128 inet 127.0.0.1 netmask 0xff00 ping 192.168.1.1 and traceroute 192.168.1.1 give Network is unreachable I even connected directly to the cable modem as it was before I bought the router and... surprise: it works! Put the router back and BSD stops working again. I'm writing this post from Linux, so this one works. When it is connected directly to the router, what IP are you using then? Can you post your ifconfig -a output then, and when it is connected to the router. What router are you using? How do you have it set-up? What are the IP settings for the router? What are the DHCP settings? Can the router ping itself or other hosts? -Derek ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Help with router problem
My feeling is that's something in my router that BSD doesn't like and Linux doesn't care (since it works). Instead of posting my custom kernel config, I decided that I will give it another two radical tries: - first, I'll compile a generic kernel - second, if the first attempt is unsuccessful, I will try a complete reinstall of FreeBSD, to get rid of all the configuration tweaks I made If it will not work after that, I will remove BSD from my system. I don't want to waste your time and mine dealing with this annoying issue anymore. very good idea. don't waste yor time on freebsd if something else works well for you. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Help with router problem
Thanks for all your input. For now I am posting my rc.conf, but I will try your suggestions this evening when I come back from work. If anyone needs additional details, please ask and I'll repost my initial cry for help. Eugen ### Console options keymap=us.iso font8x8=NO font8x14=NO font8x16=NO scrnmap=NO keyrate=fast cursor=blink blanktime=900 saver=warp ### Mouse daemon mousechar_start=NO moused_enable=NO moused_flags= moused_port=/dev/sysmouse moused_type=auto ### IPv6 options ipv6_enable=NO ifconfig_dc0=DHCP ### PF firewall # pf_enable=YES# Enable PF (load module if required) # pf_flags= # additional flags for pfctl startup # pf_rules=/etc/pf.conf# rules definition file for pf # pflog_enable=YES # start pflogd(8) # pflog_flags= # additional flags for pflogd startup # pflog_logfile=/var/log/pflog # where pflogd should store the logfile ### Miscellaneous administrative options kern_securelevel=-1 # range: -1..3 ; `-1' is the most insecure kern_securelevel_enable=NO# kernel security level (see init(8)), local_startup=/usr/local/etc/rc.d clear_tmp_enable=YES # Clear /tmp at startup. devfs_system_ruleset=devfsrules_local # The name of a ruleset to apply to /dev dmesg_enable=YES # Save dmesg(8) to /var/run/dmesg.boot update_motd=YES # update version info in /etc/motd (or NO) virecover_enable=NO# Perform housekeeping for the vi(1) editor usbd_enable=YES usbd_enable=YES # Run the usbd daemon. usbd_flags= # Flags to usbd (if enabled). lpd_enable=YES On Feb 5, 2008 11:15 PM, Kevin Kinsey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Eugen wrote: Are there really no experienced FreeBSD users who can help me with my behind a router problem ? Should I post it again ? Should I just give up using BSD altogether due to an unusable system? I would not like this idea, I was really starting to like it. Respectfully, Eugen Hello. I'm sorry to hear you're having trouble. Have you attempted static assignment to another address, such as 192.168.1.38 (something not 33, but within your pool)? # ifconfig dc0 down # ifconfig dc0 inet 192.168.1.38 netmask 255.255.255.0 # ping 192.168.1.1 What does `arp -a` say? Does ping work if you call it with `ping -I dc0 192.168.1.1`? What does `traceroute 192.168.1.1` give you? And, I've only seen output for the one interface (maybe I overlooked something in your posts), what is the output of ifconfig -a --- is there some other interface that could be causing route problems and therefore network unreachable from ping(8)? It does seem rather odd, so I wonder if there's something we are all overlooking. Since no one but you is there, we can't tell you what it is, but only guess. Maybe something above will give us all a clue :-) Also respectfully, ;-) Kevin Kinsey -- Conscience doth make cowards of us all. -- Shakespeare ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Help with router problem
At 07:40 AM 2/6/2008, Eugen wrote: Thanks for all your input. For now I am posting my rc.conf, but I will try your suggestions this evening when I come back from work. If anyone needs additional details, please ask and I'll repost my initial cry for help. Eugen ### Console options keymap=us.iso font8x8=NO font8x14=NO font8x16=NO scrnmap=NO keyrate=fast cursor=blink blanktime=900 saver=warp ### Mouse daemon mousechar_start=NO moused_enable=NO moused_flags= moused_port=/dev/sysmouse moused_type=auto ### IPv6 options ipv6_enable=NO ifconfig_dc0=DHCP ### PF firewall # pf_enable=YES# Enable PF (load module if required) # pf_flags= # additional flags for pfctl startup # pf_rules=/etc/pf.conf# rules definition file for pf # pflog_enable=YES # start pflogd(8) # pflog_flags= # additional flags for pflogd startup # pflog_logfile=/var/log/pflog # where pflogd should store the logfile ### Miscellaneous administrative options kern_securelevel=-1 # range: -1..3 ; `-1' is the most insecure kern_securelevel_enable=NO# kernel security level (see init(8)), local_startup=/usr/local/etc/rc.d clear_tmp_enable=YES # Clear /tmp at startup. devfs_system_ruleset=devfsrules_local # The name of a ruleset to apply to /dev dmesg_enable=YES # Save dmesg(8) to /var/run/dmesg.boot update_motd=YES # update version info in /etc/motd (or NO) virecover_enable=NO# Perform housekeeping for the vi(1) editor usbd_enable=YES usbd_enable=YES # Run the usbd daemon. usbd_flags= # Flags to usbd (if enabled). lpd_enable=YES Eugen, I almost always set my FreeBSD systems up to use a static IP, even behind a router. I don't know if you want to access your FreeBSD system from ONLY the LAN, or if you want some access through your router. I prefer a static IP on my FreeBSD systems as they are all providing some server functions (file sharing, DNS, etc.) Below are typical lines you would have in your /etc/rc.conf: == #set the default router to your router's IP, often 192.168.1.1 defaultrouter=192.168.1.1 #set your hostname to match the enty in /etc/hosts hostname=myhostname.mydomainname.com #set your IP to one not in any DHCP range ifconfig_dc0=inet 192.168.1.10 netmask 255.255.255.0 == These are all you need to get it working. If you want the FreeBSD to have a LAN address but access through the router you need to set that up in your router. -Derek -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. MailScanner thanks transtec Computers for their support. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Help with router problem
I tried everything you guys told me and it still doesn't work : - tried to set a static address as Derek indicated - commented out the ipv6 line in rc.conf, even if it was already set to NO - the answer to Kevin's questions follow: # ping -I dc0 192.168.1.1 ping: invalid multicast interface: `dc0' # arp -a ? (192.168.1.1) at (incomplete) on dc0 [ethernet] # ifconfig -a dc0: flags=8843UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST metric 0 mtu 1500 options=8VLAN_MTU ether 00:14:cf:52:b4:17 inet 192.168.1.33 netmask 0xff00 broadcast 192.168.1.255 media: Ethernet autoselect (100baseTX full-duplex) status: active lo0: flags=8049UP,LOOPBACK,RUNNING,MULTICAST metric 0 mtu 16384 inet6 fe80::1%lo0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x2 inet6 ::1 prefixlen 128 inet 127.0.0.1 netmask 0xff00 ping 192.168.1.1 and traceroute 192.168.1.1 give Network is unreachable I even connected directly to the cable modem as it was before I bought the router and... surprise: it works! Put the router back and BSD stops working again. I'm writing this post from Linux, so this one works. The /etc/hosts and /etc/dhclient.conf are the original ones, coming from BSD install, untouched. What else can I do ? Eugen On Feb 6, 2008 8:36 AM, Derek Ragona [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 07:40 AM 2/6/2008, Eugen wrote: Thanks for all your input. For now I am posting my rc.conf, but I will try your suggestions this evening when I come back from work. If anyone needs additional details, please ask and I'll repost my initial cry for help. Eugen ### Console options keymap=us.iso font8x8=NO font8x14=NO font8x16=NO scrnmap=NO keyrate=fast cursor=blink blanktime=900 saver=warp ### Mouse daemon mousechar_start=NO moused_enable=NO moused_flags= moused_port=/dev/sysmouse moused_type=auto ### IPv6 options ipv6_enable=NO ifconfig_dc0=DHCP ### PF firewall # pf_enable=YES# Enable PF (load module if required) # pf_flags= # additional flags for pfctl startup # pf_rules=/etc/pf.conf# rules definition file for pf # pflog_enable=YES # start pflogd(8) # pflog_flags= # additional flags for pflogd startup # pflog_logfile=/var/log/pflog # where pflogd should store the logfile ### Miscellaneous administrative options kern_securelevel=-1 # range: -1..3 ; `-1' is the most insecure kern_securelevel_enable=NO# kernel security level (see init(8)), local_startup=/usr/local/etc/rc.d clear_tmp_enable=YES # Clear /tmp at startup. devfs_system_ruleset=devfsrules_local # The name of a ruleset to apply to /dev dmesg_enable=YES # Save dmesg(8) to /var/run/dmesg.boot update_motd=YES # update version info in /etc/motd (or NO) virecover_enable=NO# Perform housekeeping for the vi(1) editor usbd_enable=YES usbd_enable=YES # Run the usbd daemon. usbd_flags= # Flags to usbd (if enabled). lpd_enable=YES Eugen, I almost always set my FreeBSD systems up to use a static IP, even behind a router. I don't know if you want to access your FreeBSD system from ONLY the LAN, or if you want some access through your router. I prefer a static IP on my FreeBSD systems as they are all providing some server functions (file sharing, DNS, etc.) Below are typical lines you would have in your /etc/rc.conf: == #set the default router to your router's IP, often 192.168.1.1 defaultrouter=192.168.1.1 #set your hostname to match the enty in /etc/hosts hostname=myhostname.mydomainname.com #set your IP to one not in any DHCP range ifconfig_dc0=inet 192.168.1.10 netmask 255.255.255.0 == These are all you need to get it working. If you want the FreeBSD to have a LAN address but access through the router you need to set that up in your router. -Derek -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. MailScanner thanks transtec Computers for their support. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Help with router problem
But i still dont see any ipv6 data in the ifconfig for dc0, we had an instance where ipv6 being turned off networking stopped functioning in your ifconfig dc0 should show inet6 data like lo0 does. make sure its commented out of rc.conf and reboot. also is this a generic kernel or did you customize it ? On Wed, 2008-02-06 at 20:24 -0600, Eugen wrote: I tried everything you guys told me and it still doesn't work : - tried to set a static address as Derek indicated - commented out the ipv6 line in rc.conf, even if it was already set to NO - the answer to Kevin's questions follow: # ping -I dc0 192.168.1.1 ping: invalid multicast interface: `dc0' # arp -a ? (192.168.1.1) at (incomplete) on dc0 [ethernet] # ifconfig -a dc0: flags=8843UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST metric 0 mtu 1500 options=8VLAN_MTU ether 00:14:cf:52:b4:17 inet 192.168.1.33 netmask 0xff00 broadcast 192.168.1.255 media: Ethernet autoselect (100baseTX full-duplex) status: active lo0: flags=8049UP,LOOPBACK,RUNNING,MULTICAST metric 0 mtu 16384 inet6 fe80::1%lo0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x2 inet6 ::1 prefixlen 128 inet 127.0.0.1 netmask 0xff00 ping 192.168.1.1 and traceroute 192.168.1.1 give Network is unreachable I even connected directly to the cable modem as it was before I bought the router and... surprise: it works! Put the router back and BSD stops working again. I'm writing this post from Linux, so this one works. The /etc/hosts and /etc/dhclient.conf are the original ones, coming from BSD install, untouched. What else can I do ? Eugen On Feb 6, 2008 8:36 AM, Derek Ragona [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 07:40 AM 2/6/2008, Eugen wrote: Thanks for all your input. For now I am posting my rc.conf, but I will try your suggestions this evening when I come back from work. If anyone needs additional details, please ask and I'll repost my initial cry for help. Eugen ### Console options keymap=us.iso font8x8=NO font8x14=NO font8x16=NO scrnmap=NO keyrate=fast cursor=blink blanktime=900 saver=warp ### Mouse daemon mousechar_start=NO moused_enable=NO moused_flags= moused_port=/dev/sysmouse moused_type=auto ### IPv6 options ipv6_enable=NO ifconfig_dc0=DHCP ### PF firewall # pf_enable=YES# Enable PF (load module if required) # pf_flags= # additional flags for pfctl startup # pf_rules=/etc/pf.conf# rules definition file for pf # pflog_enable=YES # start pflogd(8) # pflog_flags= # additional flags for pflogd startup # pflog_logfile=/var/log/pflog # where pflogd should store the logfile ### Miscellaneous administrative options kern_securelevel=-1 # range: -1..3 ; `-1' is the most insecure kern_securelevel_enable=NO# kernel security level (see init(8)), local_startup=/usr/local/etc/rc.d clear_tmp_enable=YES # Clear /tmp at startup. devfs_system_ruleset=devfsrules_local # The name of a ruleset to apply to /dev dmesg_enable=YES # Save dmesg(8) to /var/run/dmesg.boot update_motd=YES # update version info in /etc/motd (or NO) virecover_enable=NO# Perform housekeeping for the vi(1) editor usbd_enable=YES usbd_enable=YES # Run the usbd daemon. usbd_flags= # Flags to usbd (if enabled). lpd_enable=YES Eugen, I almost always set my FreeBSD systems up to use a static IP, even behind a router. I don't know if you want to access your FreeBSD system from ONLY the LAN, or if you want some access through your router. I prefer a static IP on my FreeBSD systems as they are all providing some server functions (file sharing, DNS, etc.) Below are typical lines you would have in your /etc/rc.conf: == #set the default router to your router's IP, often 192.168.1.1 defaultrouter=192.168.1.1 #set your hostname to match the enty in /etc/hosts hostname=myhostname.mydomainname.com #set your IP to one not in any DHCP range ifconfig_dc0=inet 192.168.1.10 netmask 255.255.255.0 == These are all you need to get it working. If you want the FreeBSD to have a LAN address but access through the router you need to set that up in your router. -Derek -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. MailScanner
Re: Help with router problem
That's what I get when I put ipv6_enable=YES in /etc/rc.conf : $ ifconfig -a dc0: flags=8843UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST metric 0 mtu 1500 options=8VLAN_MTU ether 00:14:cf:52:b4:17 inet6 fe80::214:cfff:fe52:b417%dc0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x1 inet 192.168.1.33 netmask 0xff00 broadcast 192.168.1.255 media: Ethernet autoselect (100baseTX full-duplex) status: active lo0: flags=8049UP,LOOPBACK,RUNNING,MULTICAST metric 0 mtu 16384 inet6 ::1 prefixlen 128 inet6 fe80::1%lo0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x2 inet 127.0.0.1 netmask 0xff00 And yes, it is a customized kernel. Would it be useful to attach my config file ? Eugen On Feb 6, 2008 8:46 PM, OutBackDingo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But i still dont see any ipv6 data in the ifconfig for dc0, we had an instance where ipv6 being turned off networking stopped functioning in your ifconfig dc0 should show inet6 data like lo0 does. make sure its commented out of rc.conf and reboot. also is this a generic kernel or did you customize it ? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Help with router problem
Yeah you might want to attach the kernel config just to make sure nothing was dropped that needs to be there , when you got this dc0 ip of 192.168.1.33 was that set staticly?? On Wed, 2008-02-06 at 22:48 -0600, Eugen wrote: That's what I get when I put ipv6_enable=YES in /etc/rc.conf : $ ifconfig -a dc0: flags=8843UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST metric 0 mtu 1500 options=8VLAN_MTU ether 00:14:cf:52:b4:17 inet6 fe80::214:cfff:fe52:b417%dc0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x1 inet 192.168.1.33 netmask 0xff00 broadcast 192.168.1.255 media: Ethernet autoselect (100baseTX full-duplex) status: active lo0: flags=8049UP,LOOPBACK,RUNNING,MULTICAST metric 0 mtu 16384 inet6 ::1 prefixlen 128 inet6 fe80::1%lo0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x2 inet 127.0.0.1 netmask 0xff00 And yes, it is a customized kernel. Would it be useful to attach my config file ? Eugen On Feb 6, 2008 8:46 PM, OutBackDingo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But i still dont see any ipv6 data in the ifconfig for dc0, we had an instance where ipv6 being turned off networking stopped functioning in your ifconfig dc0 should show inet6 data like lo0 does. make sure its commented out of rc.conf and reboot. also is this a generic kernel or did you customize it ? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Help on freeBSD 4.10
On Feb 4, 2008, at 11:01 PM, Matthew Seaman wrote: As an administrator, how can i disable an account after three consecutive unsuccessful login attempts? As root, you could run: chsh -s /usr/sbin/nologin _user_ Um... I don't think that's quite what the OP meant. He wants to automatically lock out anyone that fails 3 times to supply the right password. Perhaps, although I preferred to answer the question which was actually asked in this case, since automatically locking out accounts results in a trivial denial-of-service condition whenever anyone happens to do a brute-force scan on the machine in question. See login.conf(5), particularly these entries: login-backoffnumber3 The number of login attempts allowed before the backoff delay is inserted after each subsequent attempt. The backoff delay is the number of tries above login-backoff multiplied by 5 seconds. login-retriesnumber10The number of login attempts allowed before the login fails. Note that this applies only to the login(1) program and so applies to textmode logins directly on the console. Other applications like xdm(1) have different controls, as do applications that provide remote access like ssh(1). Have you actually tried setting these? They make the system add a pause if the wrong password is entered several times, but they will not actually lock the account. -- -Chuck ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Help with router problem
Eugen wrote: Are there really no experienced FreeBSD users who can help me with my behind a router problem ? Should I post it again ? Should I just give up using BSD altogether due to an unusable system? I would not like this idea, I was really starting to like it. I'm not a very experienced user, but I read through your posts and it is indeed puzzling. Did you try to set an address manually on the interface, boot without any ifconfig-statement in rc.conf and then ifconfig dc0 inet 192.168.1.2 netmask 255.255.255.0 and route add default 192.168.1.0/24 192.168.1.1 Perhaps post your rc.conf as well. Is the router in the arp cache (arp -a) ? --per ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Help with router problem
At 07:24 PM 2/5/2008, Eugen wrote: Are there really no experienced FreeBSD users who can help me with my behind a router problem ? Should I post it again ? Should I just give up using BSD altogether due to an unusable system? I would not like this idea, I was really starting to like it. Respectfully, Eugen Eugen, I saw your post but was too busy to respond then. If you give me the details, and what you have in your /etc/rc.conf for the ethernet I will try to help. -Derek -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. MailScanner thanks transtec Computers for their support. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Help with router problem
Eugen wrote: Are there really no experienced FreeBSD users who can help me with my behind a router problem ? Should I post it again ? Should I just give up using BSD altogether due to an unusable system? I would not like this idea, I was really starting to like it. Respectfully, Eugen Hello. I'm sorry to hear you're having trouble. Have you attempted static assignment to another address, such as 192.168.1.38 (something not 33, but within your pool)? # ifconfig dc0 down # ifconfig dc0 inet 192.168.1.38 netmask 255.255.255.0 # ping 192.168.1.1 What does `arp -a` say? Does ping work if you call it with `ping -I dc0 192.168.1.1`? What does `traceroute 192.168.1.1` give you? And, I've only seen output for the one interface (maybe I overlooked something in your posts), what is the output of ifconfig -a --- is there some other interface that could be causing route problems and therefore network unreachable from ping(8)? It does seem rather odd, so I wonder if there's something we are all overlooking. Since no one but you is there, we can't tell you what it is, but only guess. Maybe something above will give us all a clue :-) Also respectfully, ;-) Kevin Kinsey -- Conscience doth make cowards of us all. -- Shakespeare ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Help on freeBSD 4.10
On Feb 4, 2008, at 2:31 PM, Tuan Ho wrote: 1/ As an administrator, how can i disable an account after three consecutive unsuccessful login attempts? As root, you could run: chsh -s /usr/sbin/nologin _user_ 2/ How can I enable logged file to monitor successful and unsuccessful logins and logouts? This should be enabled by default already; examine /var/log/auth.log -- -Chuck ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Help on freeBSD 4.10
Chuck Swiger wrote: On Feb 4, 2008, at 2:31 PM, Tuan Ho wrote: 1/ As an administrator, how can i disable an account after three consecutive unsuccessful login attempts? As root, you could run: chsh -s /usr/sbin/nologin _user_ Um... I don't think that's quite what the OP meant. He wants to automatically lock out anyone that fails 3 times to supply the right password. See login.conf(5), particularly these entries: login-backoffnumber3 The number of login attempts allowed before the backoff delay is inserted after each subsequent attempt. The backoff delay is the number of tries above login-backoff multiplied by 5 seconds. login-retriesnumber10The number of login attempts allowed before the login fails. Note that this applies only to the login(1) program and so applies to textmode logins directly on the console. Other applications like xdm(1) have different controls, as do applications that provide remote access like ssh(1). Cheers, Matthew -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate Kent, CT11 9PW ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: HELP: Motherboard Selection (ASUS)
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of David Naylor Sent: Monday, January 28, 2008 12:21 AM To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: HELP: Motherboard Selection (ASUS) Hi, Late last year I bought a AS US P5N-E (force 650) motherboard. It didn't work with FreeBSD and SUMP (I can't blame FreeBSD has Linux and Windows struggle to run on the board, and it is riddled with bugs). I'm now hoping to convince AS US that I need a different motherboard, does anyone know which AS US boards work (or don't work) with FreeBSD. I need SLID, quad core and 4 DIM MS. Why don't you ask us when you have actually managed to get AS US convinced? It seems to me your chances of doing this now are gone. The Uniform Commercial Code only requires retailers to offer a 30 day guarentee. Assuming late last year meant sometime in December, you should have returned the motherboard to the retailer weeks ago. And, AS US has no obligation to take the board back and supply you with a different one under their warranty. One board I was considering was the AS US P5N32-E (with force 680i). I know there was a problem with NF (but I can live with that, if it is not already solved). I think your nuts to consider AS US again. You got burned once by them, do you like getting slapped upside the head repeatedly? The best chance you have of salvaging this train wreck is selling the motherboard on Ebay for 50 cents on the dollar, and treating it as a learning experience. In the future, don't buy a motherboard from an online retailer unless you know it works. And whether you buy one from an online retailer or a local retailer, return it as soon as you find it doesen't work. And of course, test that it works before the 30 day return period is up. Ted ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: HELP: Motherboard Selection (ASUS)
Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of David Naylor Sent: Monday, January 28, 2008 12:21 AM To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: HELP: Motherboard Selection (ASUS) Hi, Late last year I bought a AS US P5N-E (force 650) motherboard. It didn't work with FreeBSD and SUMP (I can't blame FreeBSD has Linux and Windows struggle to run on the board, and it is riddled with bugs). I'm now hoping to convince AS US that I need a different motherboard, does anyone know which AS US boards work (or don't work) with FreeBSD. I need SLID, quad core and 4 DIM MS. Why don't you ask us when you have actually managed to get AS US convinced? It seems to me your chances of doing this now are gone. The Uniform Commercial Code only requires retailers to offer a 30 day guarentee. Assuming late last year meant sometime in December, you should have returned the motherboard to the retailer weeks ago. And, AS US has no obligation to take the board back and supply you with a different one under their warranty. One board I was considering was the AS US P5N32-E (with force 680i). I know there was a problem with NF (but I can live with that, if it is not already solved). I think your nuts to consider AS US again. You got burned once by them, do you like getting slapped upside the head repeatedly? The best chance you have of salvaging this train wreck is selling the motherboard on Ebay for 50 cents on the dollar, and treating it as a learning experience. In the future, don't buy a motherboard from an online retailer unless you know it works. Ted, I love reading your comments as you are so knowledgeable but you should give a brake to a poor guy. He is already traumatized by online experience so we need to conform him. There is nothing wrong in buying thins from online retailers as you can usually save 30-50% in my experience but as Ted said you have to know what are you buying. Tad's idea of Ebay is almost perfect. You can also try to get a read of your board on the Craigslist. My advice would be that you put the price 10%-20% bigger of what you actually pay for for the board. If the person knows what he is doing he would not buy from Ebay or Craigslist anyway. I just looked the Tuscon's Craigslist and some moron is selling a mother board for $50 bucks. Instead of the picture of his mother board he gave a link to the Geeks' web-site where the same mother board is clearly priced $33.95. Including $8 shipping, that is still cheaper than $50 which his asking price (If I remember well arithmetic from the kindergarten:-) ). Cheers, Predrag P. S. Ted, I am so happy you didn't make a progress with that anti-Serbian filter you were working on so that I can still read your comments and learn. Kind regards from Arizona :-) And whether you buy one from an online retailer or a local retailer, return it as soon as you find it doesen't work. And of course, test that it works before the 30 day return period is up. Ted ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: HELP: Motherboard Selection (ASUS)
Ted, I love reading your comments as you are so knowledgeable but you should give a brake to a poor guy. He is already traumatized by online experience so we need to conform him. There is nothing wrong in buying thins from online retailers as you can usually save 30-50% in my experience but as Ted said you have to know what are you buying. what i always do when have to buy a computer is to (after getting rough knowledge what will work in freebsd) a) go to the shop and say about what i want to buy, telling in advance that it has to run freebsd, and i want to check it before buying. in many shops they refuse to sell at all, but there are other shops :) b) check everything with live cd+my laptop. disks, network, etc. c) if it work - buy it, and ONLY complete machine, not parts. may get slightly more expensive but no problems then ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: HELP: Motherboard Selection (ASUS)
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Predrag Punosevac Sent: Monday, January 28, 2008 2:37 AM To: Ted Mittelstaedt Cc: David Naylor; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: HELP: Motherboard Selection (ASUS) Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of David Naylor Sent: Monday, January 28, 2008 12:21 AM To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: HELP: Motherboard Selection (ASUS) Hi, Late last year I bought a AS US P5N-E (force 650) motherboard. It didn't work with FreeBSD and SUMP (I can't blame FreeBSD has Linux and Windows struggle to run on the board, and it is riddled with bugs). I'm now hoping to convince AS US that I need a different motherboard, does anyone know which AS US boards work (or don't work) with FreeBSD. I need SLID, quad core and 4 DIM MS. Why don't you ask us when you have actually managed to get AS US convinced? It seems to me your chances of doing this now are gone. The Uniform Commercial Code only requires retailers to offer a 30 day guarentee. Assuming late last year meant sometime in December, you should have returned the motherboard to the retailer weeks ago. And, AS US has no obligation to take the board back and supply you with a different one under their warranty. One board I was considering was the AS US P5N32-E (with force 680i). I know there was a problem with NF (but I can live with that, if it is not already solved). I think your nuts to consider AS US again. You got burned once by them, do you like getting slapped upside the head repeatedly? The best chance you have of salvaging this train wreck is selling the motherboard on Ebay for 50 cents on the dollar, and treating it as a learning experience. In the future, don't buy a motherboard from an online retailer unless you know it works. Ted, I love reading your comments as you are so knowledgeable but you should give a brake to a poor guy. He is already traumatized by online experience so we need to conform him. I loved your post! Your right - he didn't say, of course, that he bought online - I didn't want to imply that he did, actually, I just wanted to make sure that he didn't decide to go online. There is nothing wrong in buying thins from online retailers as you can usually save 30-50% in my experience but as Ted said you have to know what are you buying. I buy lots of stuff online myself - but you have to be careful, and you have to be sure of what your doing. Most of the time, I am - but I've got burned a few times online (fortunately, not for more than $20 USD or so) Tad's idea of Ebay is almost perfect. You can also try to get a read of your board on the Craigslist. My advice would be that you put the price 10%-20% bigger of what you actually pay for for the board. If the person knows what he is doing he would not buy from Ebay or Craigslist anyway. Yes - but a lot of people DON'T and so that is why you can unloa.. I mean sell stuff there. And of course the old adage of one man's trash is another man's treasure always applies - I've bought what just about anyone would consider junk before - extracted the bits I wanted - then tossed out the rest. Sometimes when you need a power supply it's cheaper to buy the device then toss everything but the power supply in the garbage. The same things apply to the old car market. I've seen people selling a car engine for $600 that I could go buy an old car for $300 that had the same engine - remove the engine - and haul the rest of the car to the wrecker and get $50 for the scrap steel. Of course I have to have the tools to remove the engine - but they are the same tools I need to have to deal with the $600 engine. I just looked the Tuscon's Craigslist and some moron is selling a mother board for $50 bucks. Instead of the picture of his mother board he gave a link to the Geeks' web-site where the same mother board is clearly priced $33.95. Including $8 shipping, that is still cheaper than $50 which his asking price (If I remember well arithmetic from the kindergarten:-) ). ROTFL!! That's one of the best I've heard about. If you ever want to kill 10 minutes and get a few laughs, read the craigslist free list. I particularly love the ones that start out free TV set doesen't turn on - you fix Yeah, like I'm really going to be able to fix a TV that has it's entire circuitry embedded in a big ASIC inside the TV Ted ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: help
Am Montag, 21. Januar 2008 10:16:40 schrieb Enovation Technologies: my question is how to configure 2 nics with different ip on same box in the same subnet. You know that this makes no sense? At least not in 99.99% of the cases? Maybe you can describe a little more clearly _why_ you want to do this, then somebody might be able to help you more appropriately than me helping you now. -- Heiko Wundram Product Application Development ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: help
on re0 i have installing this ip # -- sysinstall generated deltas -- # Thu Dec 6 15:26:31 2007 ifconfig_re0=inet 10.200.1.37 netmask 255.255.255.0 defaultrouter=10.200.1.1 hostname=zeus.local i want to install on re1 another ip10.200.1.40 it won't work this way, 2 cards on same subnet. what do you need - more speed that 100Mbit/s or what exactly ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Help From Indonesian....What's the matter with my mouse ??
An issue like this is best posted in the appropriate pcbsd forum: http://forums.pcbsd.org/ with detailed information about your system and dmesg output. -- Colin Brace Amsterdam http://lim.nl ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: help wanted configuring HPLIP
Anish Mistry writes: So if the PSC attaches as umass, I'm hosed, but if it attaches as ugen I win. You can probably hack the umass driver to prevent it from attaching to the printer. On attaching, I get: ugen1: Hewlett-Packard PSC 750xi, class 0/0, rev 1.10/1.00, addr 6 on uhub4 So it looks like I'm good. Now we'll see if HPLIP can do its job. Robert Huff ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: help wanted configuring HPLIP
Robert Huff writes: So it looks like I'm good. Now we'll see if HPLIP can do its job. So close, and yet so far. Ran hp-setup. Everything worked OK except for: 1) didn't automatically find the correct driver (is it supposed to?) 2) found the device when I checked discover all, but not when I checked only scan to PC. However, the real obstacle is: Dec 8 19:50:17 jerusalem PSC_750xi?serial=MY22KD1108WB: io/hpmud/musb.c 1003: unable to open hp:/usb/PSC_750xi?serial=MY22KD1108WB I'm assuming this is because I haven't rebooted and the devfs rules haven't changed. Is there an approved way to get the appropriate party to re-read and implement? Robert Huff ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: help wanted configuring HPLIP
Robert Huff wrote: I've got it installed, see the post-install configuration message, and have questions about how it will interact with existing printers. Robert Huff ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You might want to repeat your message as attachments are stripped by the FreeBSD mail server. For generic informatin http://dsteinbrook.googlepages.com/hpliponfreebsd Make sure you start HPLIP daemons before the CUPS daemon. Make sure you understand the part of the article about the kernel! ulpt driver must be out of kernel!!! Make sure you add printers using http://localhost:631 before you go to HP management program. Finally, parallel printers are not supported by HPLIP no matter what they say. They are only supported if you could attach them directly to the local network on the very specific way. Also there is whole class of HP printers that not supported as they use very unusual protocol to communicate with the printer server Qoute from HPLIP website. Question: Are drivers available for the Deskjet 710C, 712C, 720C, 722C, 820Cse, 820Cxi, 1000Cse, 1000Cxi; or LaserJet 1000, 1005, 1020, 3100; or Color LaserJet 1500, 2600 printers? Answer: These are non-standard host based printers. Currently there are no plans to support these printers in HPLIP. Ghostscript print filters for the Deskjet products can be found at the pnm2ppa project. These printers are supported with http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/url.cgi?ports/print/foo2zjs/pkg-descr driver and I personally would not waist my time with them. If you are managing printers in your company the best decision that you could make is to have only printers that can speak postscript language and not worry about drivers to begin with. HPLIP is the great thing if you want to get full functionality from you ALL-IN-ONE devices (including scanning) and things like toner option. Printers however on your network will still be managed by CUPS spooling system. I believe that HPLIP cannot work with other spooling systems that you might like better than CUPS so that could be also another reason always to use printers that can speak postscript language. Best, Predrag ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Help with Crontab
Drew Tomlinson wrote: I'm trying to use cron to run a script on the first Sunday of every month at 0930. I used this entry in the crontab: # Run 1st Sunday at 0930 - Fulls 30 9 1-7 * 7 /usr/local/scripts/backup_bootstrap.sh Yet this script just ran on Thursday, December 6 at 0930. Why? I just added it to cron so I don't know if it will run on any other days. See crontab(5), which says: Note: The day of a command's execution can be specified by two fields -- day of month, and day of week. If both fields are restricted (ie, are not *), the command will be run when either field matches the current time. For example, ``30 4 1,15 * 5'' would cause a command to be run at 4:30 am on the 1st and 15th of each month, plus every Friday. HTH, Kevin Kinsey ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: help wanted configuring HPLIP
Robert Huff wrote: I've got it installed, see the post-install configuration message, and have questions about how it will interact with existing printers. Were I you, I would install cups, and then goto web page interface on localhost. It kind of just works. -- - Philip M. Gollucci ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) c:323.219.4708 o:703.749.9295x206 Senior System Admin - Riderway, Inc. http://riderway.com / http://ridecharge.com 1024D/EC88A0BF 0DE5 C55C 6BF3 B235 2DAB B89E 1324 9B4F EC88 A0BF Work like you don't need the money, love like you'll never get hurt, and dance like nobody's watching. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: help wanted configuring HPLIP
On Saturday 08 December 2007, caldari_halo wrote: Anish Mistry wrote: On Friday 07 December 2007, Robert Huff wrote: Predrag Punosevac writes: I've got it installed, see the post-install configuration message, and have questions about how it will interact with existing printers. You might want to repeat your message as attachments are stripped by the FreeBSD mail server. Didn't send an attachment. Here's the scenario: Computer in question is runnong -CURRENT and already has CUPS installed for the (parallel attached) LaserJet 6mp. I now have access to a PSC 7xx, which I would like to use 0x1 % for color printing and the rest for scanning. As far as i can tell sane by itself does not have the ability to do this, but it concert with HPLIP it does. First question: is this correct? Not just connect to the PSC, but use both devices at once If not, then I just abort the whole plan. After seeing the post-installation message for HPLIP, I wat to understand what I'm doing before messing with devfs. (Revuilding the kernel is no biggie, though I don't think that'll be necessary.) And, frankly, configuring CUPS is usually as pleasant as aggrssive dysentery. You should be fine since your other printer is a parallel port printer. The HPLIP port doesn't configure parallel port printers so just use the normal CUPS configuration. There are some issues with the PSC printers and getting attached as umass devices. Search the archives for more info. Basically a real solution for the umass issue won't appear until the HPS USB stack grows generic device access for already claimed usb devices support sometime next year. I've read the last couple of replies, and they have been sort of discouraging. I have a HP PSC 1610, which mounts itself as a umass device, instead of ugen. Its connected via USB (instead of parallel, in the other guys case). I recompiled the kernel (using 6.2 here) without ulpt support, just like Daniel Steinbrook's howto said. I installed/configured cups and hpijs (donot need hplip) as well. Are you saying that I'm at a dead end as far as getting my printer to work under FBSD? Like a said to Robert, it should be pretty simple to tweak the umass driver to not attach as umass for your printer. All you should need is in umass_match_proto is an if() statement that checks for you printer ID and then returns UMATCH_NONE -- Anish Mistry [EMAIL PROTECTED] AM Productions http://am-productions.biz/ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: Help with Crontab
Drew Tomlinson wrote: On 12/7/2007 10:49 AM Kevin Kinsey wrote: Drew Tomlinson wrote: I'm trying to use cron to run a script on the first Sunday of every month at 0930. I used this entry in the crontab: # Run 1st Sunday at 0930 - Fulls 30 9 1-7 * 7 /usr/local/scripts/backup_bootstrap.sh Yet this script just ran on Thursday, December 6 at 0930. Why? I just added it to cron so I don't know if it will run on any other days. See crontab(5), which says: Note: The day of a command's execution can be specified by two fields -- day of month, and day of week. If both fields are restricted (ie, are not *), the command will be run when either field matches the current time. For example, ``30 4 1,15 * 5'' would cause a command to be run at 4:30 am on the 1st and 15th of each month, plus every Friday. Thank you for the reply. Now I see the light. :) So I suppose there is no way to schedule as I wish using cron. I suspect I'll have to modify my script to do the date checking and only execute the meat if it's the right date. Well, as the sage said, the light at the end of the tunnel is an oncoming train. Note the word restricted there, and realize that it means that both fields are checked and the job is constrained by both of them. In other words, any of these should mail you the FBSD COPYRIGHT file on Sundays only at 4:30 a.m.: 30 4 * * Sun /bin/cat /COPYRIGHT 30 4 * * 0 /bin/cat /COPYRIGHT 30 4 * * 7 /bin/cat /COPYRIGHT So, yes, Virginia, there is a Sunday Cron. ;-) Puns, but no ill will, intended, Kevin Kinsey -- Look afar and see the end from the beginning. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Fwd: Re: Help with Crontab]
Kevin Kinsey wrote: ] Well, as the sage said, the light at the end of the ] tunnel is an oncoming train. Note the word restricted ] there, and realize that it means that both fields are ] checked and the job is constrained by both of them. ] ] In other words, any of these should mail you the FBSD ] COPYRIGHT file on Sundays only at 4:30 a.m.: ] ] 30 4 * * Sun /bin/cat /COPYRIGHT ] 30 4 * * 0 /bin/cat /COPYRIGHT ] 30 4 * * 7 /bin/cat /COPYRIGHT ] ] So, yes, Virginia, there is a Sunday Cron. ] ;-) BUT: Drew Tomlinson wrote: I'm trying to use cron to run a script on the first Sunday of every month at 0930. I used this entry in the crontab: Doh! I suppose you are right after all, and the script needs modified. I suppose I'll have my crow with hot mustard, plx. Esp. since I wrote an article a few years ago about scheduling for the last day of the month only using an external script Sorry for the noise, Kevin Kinsey ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: help wanted configuring HPLIP
On Friday 07 December 2007, Robert Huff wrote: Anish Mistry writes: You should be fine since your other printer is a parallel port printer. The HPLIP port doesn't configure parallel port printers so just use the normal CUPS configuration. There are some issues with the PSC printers and getting attached as umass devices. Search the archives for more info. Found. This may be a show-stopper - that system has umass devices which are higher priority than this. And I don't want to have an entire requires operator intervention or even non-standard script to deal with (and remember) at boot. So if the PSC attaches as umass, I'm hosed, but if it attaches as ugen I win. You can probably hack the umass driver to prevent it from attaching to the printer. -- Anish Mistry [EMAIL PROTECTED] AM Productions http://am-productions.biz/ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: help wanted configuring HPLIP
Anish Mistry writes: You should be fine since your other printer is a parallel port printer. The HPLIP port doesn't configure parallel port printers so just use the normal CUPS configuration. There are some issues with the PSC printers and getting attached as umass devices. Search the archives for more info. Found. This may be a show-stopper - that system has umass devices which are higher priority than this. And I don't want to have an entire requires operator intervention or even non-standard script to deal with (and remember) at boot. So if the PSC attaches as umass, I'm hosed, but if it attaches as ugen I win. Thanks, Robert Huff ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Help with Crontab
On 12/7/2007 10:49 AM Kevin Kinsey wrote: Drew Tomlinson wrote: I'm trying to use cron to run a script on the first Sunday of every month at 0930. I used this entry in the crontab: # Run 1st Sunday at 0930 - Fulls 30 9 1-7 * 7 /usr/local/scripts/backup_bootstrap.sh Yet this script just ran on Thursday, December 6 at 0930. Why? I just added it to cron so I don't know if it will run on any other days. See crontab(5), which says: Note: The day of a command's execution can be specified by two fields -- day of month, and day of week. If both fields are restricted (ie, are not *), the command will be run when either field matches the current time. For example, ``30 4 1,15 * 5'' would cause a command to be run at 4:30 am on the 1st and 15th of each month, plus every Friday. HTH, Kevin Kinsey Thank you for the reply. Now I see the light. :) So I suppose there is no way to schedule as I wish using cron. I suspect I'll have to modify my script to do the date checking and only execute the meat if it's the right date. Thanks, Drew -- Be a Great Magician! Visit The Alchemist's Warehouse http://www.alchemistswarehouse.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: help wanted configuring HPLIP
On Friday 07 December 2007, Robert Huff wrote: Predrag Punosevac writes: I've got it installed, see the post-install configuration message, and have questions about how it will interact with existing printers. You might want to repeat your message as attachments are stripped by the FreeBSD mail server. Didn't send an attachment. Here's the scenario: Computer in question is runnong -CURRENT and already has CUPS installed for the (parallel attached) LaserJet 6mp. I now have access to a PSC 7xx, which I would like to use 0x1 % for color printing and the rest for scanning. As far as i can tell sane by itself does not have the ability to do this, but it concert with HPLIP it does. First question: is this correct? Not just connect to the PSC, but use both devices at once If not, then I just abort the whole plan. After seeing the post-installation message for HPLIP, I wat to understand what I'm doing before messing with devfs. (Revuilding the kernel is no biggie, though I don't think that'll be necessary.) And, frankly, configuring CUPS is usually as pleasant as aggrssive dysentery. You should be fine since your other printer is a parallel port printer. The HPLIP port doesn't configure parallel port printers so just use the normal CUPS configuration. There are some issues with the PSC printers and getting attached as umass devices. Search the archives for more info. Basically a real solution for the umass issue won't appear until the HPS USB stack grows generic device access for already claimed usb devices support sometime next year. -- Anish Mistry [EMAIL PROTECTED] AM Productions http://am-productions.biz/ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: help wanted configuring HPLIP
Predrag Punosevac writes: I've got it installed, see the post-install configuration message, and have questions about how it will interact with existing printers. You might want to repeat your message as attachments are stripped by the FreeBSD mail server. Didn't send an attachment. Here's the scenario: Computer in question is runnong -CURRENT and already has CUPS installed for the (parallel attached) LaserJet 6mp. I now have access to a PSC 7xx, which I would like to use 0x1 % for color printing and the rest for scanning. As far as i can tell sane by itself does not have the ability to do this, but it concert with HPLIP it does. First question: is this correct? Not just connect to the PSC, but use both devices at once If not, then I just abort the whole plan. After seeing the post-installation message for HPLIP, I wat to understand what I'm doing before messing with devfs. (Revuilding the kernel is no biggie, though I don't think that'll be necessary.) And, frankly, configuring CUPS is usually as pleasant as aggrssive dysentery. For generic informatin http://dsteinbrook.googlepages.com/hpliponfreebsd Bookmarked. Thank you. Robert Huff ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Help for very bad perf for MySQL
Le 26/11/2007 à 22:34:34-0800, Ted Mittelstaedt a écrit Sorry yeasterday I don't have time to answer you. I've already send a message. But I don't receive any answer :-(. I try again and hope there more solution I've a bi-proc single core Xeon 3.2ghz with FreeBSD 6.2, I'm running Mysql 5.X on this server and the performance of MySQL is very bad. For some complexe select I've got ~6secondes (on some basic Linux it's take 0.6 sec). And I think this is nothing about thead (that's mean I don't think FreeBSD 7.0 can solve my problem) because it's just for one select. The server have two SAS 10 000 tr/m disks. Anyone have some advise to tunning FreeBSD or MySQL for increase the perf ? Start with the obvious stuff first. How big is the database? How big is system ram? If you have less ram than you have database then mysql will have to go to the hard disk for the select which will kill it's performance. Well : Database size ~ 180Mo Ram of server = 4 Go 2 processeurs. Nothing run on this server (charge is near zero). The disk I/O is running very fast. The make buildworld is fast too (I don't have measure but it's «fast» ;-)) Regards. -- Albert SHIH Observatoire de Paris Meudon SIO batiment 15 Heure local/Local time: Mar 27 nov 2007 13:58:17 CET ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Help for very bad perf for MySQL
Le 26/11/2007 à 13:31:12+0100, Jan Catrysse a écrit I've a bi-proc single core Xeon 3.2ghz with FreeBSD 6.2, I'm running Mysql 5.X on this server and the performance of MySQL is very bad. For some complexe select I've got ~6secondes (on some basic Linux it's take 0.6 sec). 6 seconds seem to be an awful lot. What kind of query are you running on what kind of database / contents? I don't really known it's some scientifical data. But the problem is on a basic linux pc (with SATA disk) the time is 0.6 sec with same request and same data. And it's for web applications. At 6 sec for one request it's become very long for the visitor because the application make many requests. Regards -- Albert SHIH Did you try pinpointing down the problem to make sure their is not another bottleneck? Is the system running in production environment for the moment or are you the sole user? No the server is empty (only root can logging) and no service running (other thant Mysql and apache). And when I try this test the load of the server is near zero. How did you install MySQL? I my experience (but I can be wrong) the default settings give the best performance on 5.x MySQL FreeBSD 6.2. So no Linux threads and stuff... Directly from the ports. Regards. JAS -- Albert SHIH Observatoire de Paris Meudon SIO batiment 15 Heure local/Local time: Mar 27 nov 2007 14:00:40 CET ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Help for very bad perf for MySQL
Le 26/11/2007 à 13:29:35+0100, Ivan Voras a écrit Albert Shih wrote: Hi all I've already send a message. But I don't receive any answer :-(. I try again and hope there more solution I've a bi-proc single core Xeon 3.2ghz with FreeBSD 6.2, I'm running Mysql 5.X on this server and the performance of MySQL is very bad. For some complexe select I've got ~6secondes (on some basic Linux it's take 0.6 sec). And I think this is nothing about thead (that's mean I don't think FreeBSD 7.0 can solve my problem) because it's just for one select. For starts, if you didn't do it already, copy /usr/local/share/mysql/my-huge.cnf to /etc/my.cnf and try again. These are just some general settings, they might or might not help you. It's change nothing but thanks for you answer Regards. JAS -- Albert SHIH Observatoire de Paris Meudon SIO batiment 15 Heure local/Local time: Mar 27 nov 2007 14:02:06 CET ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Help for very bad perf for MySQL
Le 26/11/2007 à 07:20:43-0500, Philip M. Gollucci a écrit Albert Shih wrote: Hi all I've already send a message. But I don't receive any answer :-(. I try again and hope there more solution I've a bi-proc single core Xeon 3.2ghz with FreeBSD 6.2, I'm running Mysql 5.X on this server and the performance of MySQL is very bad. For some complexe select I've got ~6secondes (on some basic Linux it's take 0.6 sec). And I think this is nothing about thead (that's mean I don't think FreeBSD 7.0 can solve my problem) because it's just for one select. Well -- we'll need more information, but as your say, if its not threading related what makes you think its FreeBSD. You'd probably have better luck over on [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks for this information. Also, your my.cnf is the next step. [client] port= 3306 socket = /tmp/mysql.sock [mysqld] port= 3306 socket = /tmp/mysql.sock skip-locking key_buffer = 384M max_allowed_packet = 1M table_cache = 512 sort_buffer_size = 2M read_buffer_size = 2M read_rnd_buffer_size = 8M myisam_sort_buffer_size = 64M thread_cache_size = 8 query_cache_size = 32M thread_concurrency = 8 log-bin=mysql-bin server-id = 1 [mysqldump] quick max_allowed_packet = 16M [mysql] no-auto-rehash [isamchk] key_buffer = 256M sort_buffer_size = 256M read_buffer = 2M write_buffer = 2M [myisamchk] key_buffer = 256M sort_buffer_size = 256M read_buffer = 2M write_buffer = 2M [mysqlhotcopy] interactive-timeout Regards. JAS -- Albert SHIH Observatoire de Paris Meudon SIO batiment 15 Heure local/Local time: Mar 27 nov 2007 14:02:31 CET ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Help for very bad perf for MySQL
On Mon, 26 Nov 2007 13:03:19 +0100 Albert Shih [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've a bi-proc single core Xeon 3.2ghz with FreeBSD 6.2, I'm running Mysql 5.X on this server and the performance of MySQL is very bad. For some complexe select I've got ~6secondes (on some basic Linux it's take 0.6 sec). And I think this is nothing about thead (that's mean I don't think FreeBSD 7.0 can solve my problem) because it's just for one select. I don't really known it's some scientifical data. But the problem is on a basic linux pc (with SATA disk) the time is 0.6 sec with same request and same data. And it's for web applications. At 6 sec for one request it's become very long for the visitor because the application make many requests. It may also be a simple database administration issue: If selects are taking so long, I'd strongly suspect that an INDEX table is either missing or damaged. Are you 100% sure that the database schema is *identical* on the Linux and FreeBSD machines? Perhaps dropping and rebuilding the index tables could speed things up? You could also try to listen to the disks while that slow select is performed: if the disks are thrashing, AND the swap activity is not really higher than else (vmstat -s, or top), it's a dead giveaway that mysqld is doing more disk i/o than necessary, i.e. check the index tables. If on the contrary the disks are quiet while the select runs, check if mysqld is accumulating CPU time (with top): if it is NOT, I'd guess it is some issue with the threading library, i.e. some threads are deadlocked and waiting. -cpghost. -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Help for very bad perf for MySQL
-Original Message- From: Albert Shih [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2007 5:00 AM To: Ted Mittelstaedt Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Help for very bad perf for MySQL Le 26/11/2007 à 22:34:34-0800, Ted Mittelstaedt a écrit Sorry yeasterday I don't have time to answer you. I've already send a message. But I don't receive any answer :-(. I try again and hope there more solution I've a bi-proc single core Xeon 3.2ghz with FreeBSD 6.2, I'm running Mysql 5.X on this server and the performance of MySQL is very bad. For some complexe select I've got ~6secondes (on some basic Linux it's take 0.6 sec). And I think this is nothing about thead (that's mean I don't think FreeBSD 7.0 can solve my problem) because it's just for one select. The server have two SAS 10 000 tr/m disks. Anyone have some advise to tunning FreeBSD or MySQL for increase the perf ? Start with the obvious stuff first. How big is the database? How big is system ram? If you have less ram than you have database then mysql will have to go to the hard disk for the select which will kill it's performance. Well : Database size ~ 180Mo Ram of server = 4 Go 2 processeurs. Nothing run on this server (charge is near zero). The disk I/O is running very fast. The make buildworld is fast too (I don't have measure but it's «fast» ;-)) Is Hyperthreading enabled (by default it is not under FreeBSD) mysql is heavily dependent on threading, if it is not built and linked into the freebsd threads package you will get poor performance. Some folks have installed the linux compat libs and linked mysql into the linux threads package and reported good results. Ted ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Help for very bad perf for MySQL
Is Hyperthreading enabled (by default it is not under FreeBSD) mysql is heavily dependent on threading, if it is not built and linked into the freebsd threads package you will get poor performance. Some folks have installed the linux compat libs and linked mysql into the linux threads package and reported good results. Actually, on 6.2, it's better to use libthr instead of libpthread. This can be done for MySQL only, but to test this without recompiling MySQL, he can: % echo libpthread.so.2 libthr.so.2 /etc/libmap.conf Then restart the mysql server and test again. I noticed a huge increase in performance on 6.2 with libthr instead of libpthread. It wasn't a 10x improvement, though, so there is definitely something else going on with his setup. Regards, Josh ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Help for very bad perf for MySQL
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:owner-freebsd- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Josh Carroll Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2007 8:12 AM To: Ted Mittelstaedt Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Help for very bad perf for MySQL Is Hyperthreading enabled (by default it is not under FreeBSD) mysql is heavily dependent on threading, if it is not built and linked into the freebsd threads package you will get poor performance. Some folks have installed the linux compat libs and linked mysql into the linux threads package and reported good results. Actually, on 6.2, it's better to use libthr instead of libpthread. This can be done for MySQL only, but to test this without recompiling MySQL, he can: % echo libpthread.so.2 libthr.so.2 /etc/libmap.conf Then restart the mysql server and test again. I noticed a huge increase in performance on 6.2 with libthr instead of libpthread. It wasn't a 10x improvement, though, so there is definitely something else going on with his setup. Regards, Josh Here are some things that helped us on a high-volume MySQL server. -- /etc/sysctl.conf -- (these can be added dynamically from the command line) kern.threads.max_groups_per_proc=4 kern.threads.max_threads_per_proc=4 kern.maxfiles=65535 kern.maxfilesperproc=65535 -- /boot/loader.conf -- (You'll have to reboot for these to take effect) kern.maxdsiz=1073741824 # 1GB kern.dfldsiz=1073741824 # 1GB kern.maxssiz=134217728 # 128MB -- /etc/libmap.conf -- (as Josh said) [mysqld] libpthread.so.2 libthr.so.2 libpthread.so libthr.so Regards, Mike ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Help for very bad perf for MySQL
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Albert Shih Sent: Monday, November 26, 2007 12:50 PM To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Help for very bad perf for MySQL Hi all I've already send a message. But I don't receive any answer :-(. I try again and hope there more solution I've a bi-proc single core Xeon 3.2ghz with FreeBSD 6.2, I'm running Mysql 5.X on this server and the performance of MySQL is very bad. For some complexe select I've got ~6secondes (on some basic Linux it's take 0.6 sec). And I think this is nothing about thead (that's mean I don't think FreeBSD 7.0 can solve my problem) because it's just for one select. The server have two SAS 10 000 tr/m disks. Anyone have some advise to tunning FreeBSD or MySQL for increase the perf ? Regards -- Albert SHIH Observatoire de Paris Meudon SIO batiment 15 Heure local/Local time: Lun 26 nov 2007 12:46:06 CET 6 seconds seem to be an awful lot. What kind of query are you running on what kind of database / contents? Regs, Jan ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Help for very bad perf for MySQL
Le 26/11/2007 à 13:01:47+0100, Jan Catrysse a écrit -Original Message- I've already send a message. But I don't receive any answer :-(. I try again and hope there more solution I've a bi-proc single core Xeon 3.2ghz with FreeBSD 6.2, I'm running Mysql 5.X on this server and the performance of MySQL is very bad. For some complexe select I've got ~6secondes (on some basic Linux it's take 0.6 sec). And I think this is nothing about thead (that's mean I don't think FreeBSD 7.0 can solve my problem) because it's just for one select. The server have two SAS 10 000 tr/m disks. Anyone have some advise to tunning FreeBSD or MySQL for increase the perf ? Regards -- Albert SHIH Observatoire de Paris Meudon SIO batiment 15 Heure local/Local time: Lun 26 nov 2007 12:46:06 CET 6 seconds seem to be an awful lot. What kind of query are you running on what kind of database / contents? I don't really known it's some scientifical data. But the problem is on a basic linux pc (with SATA disk) the time is 0.6 sec with same request and same data. And it's for web applications. At 6 sec for one request it's become very long for the visitor because the application make many requests. Regards -- Albert SHIH Observatoire de Paris Meudon SIO batiment 15 Heure local/Local time: Lun 26 nov 2007 13:00:32 CET ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Help for very bad perf for MySQL
Albert Shih wrote: Hi all I've already send a message. But I don't receive any answer :-(. I try again and hope there more solution I've a bi-proc single core Xeon 3.2ghz with FreeBSD 6.2, I'm running Mysql 5.X on this server and the performance of MySQL is very bad. For some complexe select I've got ~6secondes (on some basic Linux it's take 0.6 sec). And I think this is nothing about thead (that's mean I don't think FreeBSD 7.0 can solve my problem) because it's just for one select. Well -- we'll need more information, but as your say, if its not threading related what makes you think its FreeBSD. You'd probably have better luck over on [EMAIL PROTECTED] A good start would be the query itself, and the output of EXPLAIN for that query. Also, your my.cnf is the next step. -- Philip M. Gollucci ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) o:703.549.2050x206 Senior System Admin - Riderway, Inc. http://riderway.com / http://ridecharge.com 1024D/EC88A0BF 0DE5 C55C 6BF3 B235 2DAB B89E 1324 9B4F EC88 A0BF Work like you don't need the money, love like you'll never get hurt, and dance like nobody's watching. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Help for very bad perf for MySQL
Albert Shih wrote: Hi all I've already send a message. But I don't receive any answer :-(. I try again and hope there more solution I've a bi-proc single core Xeon 3.2ghz with FreeBSD 6.2, I'm running Mysql 5.X on this server and the performance of MySQL is very bad. For some complexe select I've got ~6secondes (on some basic Linux it's take 0.6 sec). And I think this is nothing about thead (that's mean I don't think FreeBSD 7.0 can solve my problem) because it's just for one select. For starts, if you didn't do it already, copy /usr/local/share/mysql/my-huge.cnf to /etc/my.cnf and try again. These are just some general settings, they might or might not help you. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Help for very bad perf for MySQL
I've a bi-proc single core Xeon 3.2ghz with FreeBSD 6.2, I'm running Mysql 5.X on this server and the performance of MySQL is very bad. For some complexe select I've got ~6secondes (on some basic Linux it's take 0.6 sec). 6 seconds seem to be an awful lot. What kind of query are you running on what kind of database / contents? I don't really known it's some scientifical data. But the problem is on a basic linux pc (with SATA disk) the time is 0.6 sec with same request and same data. And it's for web applications. At 6 sec for one request it's become very long for the visitor because the application make many requests. Regards -- Albert SHIH Did you try pinpointing down the problem to make sure their is not another bottleneck? Is the system running in production environment for the moment or are you the sole user? How did you install MySQL? I my experience (but I can be wrong) the default settings give the best performance on 5.x MySQL FreeBSD 6.2. So no Linux threads and stuff... Regs, Jan ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Help for very bad perf for MySQL
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Albert Shih Sent: Monday, November 26, 2007 3:50 AM To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Help for very bad perf for MySQL Hi all I've already send a message. But I don't receive any answer :-(. I try again and hope there more solution I've a bi-proc single core Xeon 3.2ghz with FreeBSD 6.2, I'm running Mysql 5.X on this server and the performance of MySQL is very bad. For some complexe select I've got ~6secondes (on some basic Linux it's take 0.6 sec). And I think this is nothing about thead (that's mean I don't think FreeBSD 7.0 can solve my problem) because it's just for one select. The server have two SAS 10 000 tr/m disks. Anyone have some advise to tunning FreeBSD or MySQL for increase the perf ? Start with the obvious stuff first. How big is the database? How big is system ram? If you have less ram than you have database then mysql will have to go to the hard disk for the select which will kill it's performance. Ted ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Help with a new port?
On Sat, Nov 24, 2007 at 05:01:36PM -0800, Zachary Kline wrote: I must confess I haven't. I'll look into it and see what comes up. Currently trying to figure out how to get ports upgraded in a sane fashion as well, as I've noticed some of the packages are quite behind in comparison to the ports they're based on. First of all, if you look into the ports directories on the FreeBSD FTP servers, you'll see different versions of the packages, e.g. packages-5-stable, packages-6-stable, packages-6.2-release, packages-7-current, etc. Depending on which version you installed, 'pkg_add -r' picks the packages from one of those directories. So if you installed 6.2-RELEASE, you'll probably get packages from packages-6.2-release. That packages tree is based on the ports tree at the moment that 6.2 was released. So the best way to keep your ports current is to build them yourself. First, update your ports tree with portsnap (from the base system). Then install one of the ports management tools like portmaster or portupgrade, and use that to upgrade the ports. Do read /usr/ports/UPDATING so that you are aware of any issues. If you have questions, don't hesitate to ask on the list, but have a look through the list archives as well, if you can access them. If you have trouble navigating the FreeBSD website, you should contact the website maintainers mailing list: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Good luck! Roland -- R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) pgp2azUCvG5I2.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Help with a new port?
Hi, I have a new port which I feel should be included in the FreeBSD accessibility category, if only because I noticed its absence in searching for it. Have you read http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/porters-handbook/index.html yet ? I don't use ports myself and never ported anything but I've read that guide a long time ago and to me it seemed quite easy to do. Happy porting. Regards, Robert ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Help with a new port?
Robert Joosten [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi, I have a new port which I feel should be included in the FreeBSD accessibility category, if only because I noticed its absence in searching for it. Have you read http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/porters-handbook/index.html yet ? I must confess I haven't. I'll look into it and see what comes up. Currently trying to figure out how to get ports upgraded in a sane fashion as well, as I've noticed some of the packages are quite behind in comparison to the ports they're based on. Thanks, Zack. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Help with a new port?
On 2007-11-24 15:24, Zachary Kline [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, My name is Zachary Kline, Hi Zachary, Anyway, to get to the point: I'm not quite sure where to ask this. I have a new port which I feel should be included in the FreeBSD accessibility category, [...] This port is Emacspeak, from http://emacspeak.sf.net. It's a screen reader--though that term isn't really encouraged by the developer--for the Emacs work environment. I can help with the integration of the new port. I will have a look at the site of the program, but it would be nice if you sent me any porting details/work you have already. Happy FreeBSD'ing :-) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Help no network with dhcp
--- security [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Its me, kev. Sorry, I misunderstood the request. I redid the test on a separate computer and it didnt broadcast the dhcprequest. The router's log shows no dhcp activities. I tried by passing the router and using my isp's dhcp server but the result was the same. I tried useing sysinstall on a computer with a different network card and it worked. I am useing 6.2 release. If you're not seeing the broadcast, it doesn't matter whose dhcp server you use. When you say you used a different card, is it the same mfg/chipset or a different one? It was a different kind of card it had a different chipset. I was confused because the not working card doesnt actually have a dm9102a chipset that is just what freebsd said it has a dm9102af chip I looked inside the computer and made sure. Thank you for the help I thought that maybe I was doing something wrong since I hadnt installed freebsd before. 6.2 should support that card. on the card that doesn't work, do you see a link light come up when you boot up to sysinstall? Have you switched to the alternate console to check for error messages? thks Get easy, one-click access to your favorites. Make Yahoo! your homepage. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Help how to set up networking for ftp install
On Thu, Nov 15, 2007 at 10:12:59PM -0800, kev sadasda wrote: I am trying to install freebsd over ftp but it always says, cannot resolve ftp.freebsd.org I told it to use dchp but it didnt do anything even though my router's dhcp server was on. it kept on saying dhcpdiscover on dc0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval .. So I tried to fill in the infos but it always said cannot resolve.. as soon as I pressed ok. It looks like no DHCP server is responding to it. Is there supposed to be a DHCP server listening to you? Do you usually use DHCP from that machine? or do you have to use a fixed address? or is this the first time you have tried to put this machine on the net? Anyway, if you have to enter your own info, you cannot both do that and have DHCP turned on. You have to DHCP setting off then enter your fixed IP address, your Default Name server, your default gateway and your netmask as given by your Internet provider. From a quick glance, it looks like you are trying to use both DHCP and fixed IP addresses. In addition, it looks like the IPs you are trying to assign are private network IPs rather than public network addresses. You need to talk with whoever is providing you network service. Also, take a look at: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Private_network http://www.duxcw.com/faq/network/privip.htm http://www.pku.edu.cn/academic/research/computer-center/tc/html/TC0305.html And probably some parts of the FreeBSD Handbook jerry jerry These are my infos. Windows IP Configuration Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : sasdasda-164680 Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . : Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : gv.shawcable.net Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection: Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : gv.shawcable.net Description . . . . . . . . . . . : CNet PRO200WL PCI Fast Ethernet Adap ter Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-80-AD-88-97-D8 Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.102 Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0 Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1 DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1 DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1 Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Thursday, November 15, 2007 10:05:10 PM Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Thursday, November 22, 2007 10:05:10 PM Get easy, one-click access to your favorites. Make Yahoo! your homepage. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Help how to set up networking for ftp install
kev sadasda schrieb: I forgot to explain that my computer is behind a home router connected to the cable modem. The dhcp server is working on the router it gives me an ip address in windows. So I think the problem is that freebsd isnt finding the server. It is failing with dhcpdiscover on dc0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval.. But I dont know what to do about that. This is the status info from the router. LAN MAC Address 00-0F-3D-5B-E3-BC IP Address 192.168.0.1 Subnet Mask 255.255.255.0 DHCP Server Enabled WAN MAC Address 00-0F-3D-5B-E3-BD Connection DHCP Client Connected IP Address 24.69.77.165 Subnet Mask 255.255.252.0 Default Gateway 24.69.76.1 DNS 64.59.160.13 64.59.160.15 Does the network options screen fill in the values automatically? Do you try IPv6 configuration? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Help how to set up networking for ftp install
On Fri, Nov 16, 2007 at 11:50:36AM -0800, kev sadasda wrote: I forgot to explain that my computer is behind a home router connected to the cable modem. The dhcp server is working on the router it gives me an ip address in windows. So I think the problem is that freebsd isnt finding the server. It is failing with dhcpdiscover on dc0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval.. But I dont know what to do about that. That helps make things more clear. I am not very knowledgeable about using DHCP and setting up routers (I am spoiled by being in a very highspeed net with fixed addresses for every system I need) so hopefully someone else will weigh in. Is your router functioning as a firewall too? Maybe you have to look in to passive ftp. jerry This is the status info from the router. LAN MAC Address 00-0F-3D-5B-E3-BC IP Address 192.168.0.1 Subnet Mask 255.255.255.0 DHCP Server Enabled WAN MAC Address 00-0F-3D-5B-E3-BD Connection DHCP Client Connected IP Address 24.69.77.165 Subnet Mask 255.255.252.0 Default Gateway 24.69.76.1 DNS 64.59.160.13 64.59.160.15 Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Help how to set up networking for ftp install
I am trying to install freebsd over ftp but it always says, cannot resolve ftp.freebsd.org I told it to use dchp but it didnt do anything even though my router's dhcp server was on. it kept on saying dhcpdiscover on dc0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval .. Have you tried to unplug your modem from the power for 1 minute? Usually, this is an advise you'll get from Shaw support. And usually, it really helps. Andriy ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Help how to set up networking for ftp install
I forgot to explain that my computer is behind a home router connected to the cable modem. The dhcp server is working on the router it gives me an ip address in windows. So I think the problem is that freebsd isnt finding the server. It is failing with dhcpdiscover on dc0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval.. But I dont know what to do about that. This is the status info from the router. LAN MAC Address 00-0F-3D-5B-E3-BC IP Address 192.168.0.1 Subnet Mask 255.255.255.0 DHCP Server Enabled WAN MAC Address 00-0F-3D-5B-E3-BD Connection DHCP Client Connected IP Address 24.69.77.165 Subnet Mask 255.255.252.0 Default Gateway 24.69.76.1 DNS 64.59.160.13 64.59.160.15 Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Help how to set up networking for ftp install
Is your router functioning as a firewall too? Maybe you have to look in to passive ftp. But it isnt getting to the ftp part it is not even getting the infos from the dhcp server. Does the network options screen fill in the values automatically? No it is all blank. So I tried filling it in but it didnt work. Do you try IPv6 configuration? I tried it but it didnt do anything I am sure I am not useing ipv6. Have you tried to unplug your modem from the power for 1 minute? Usually, this is an advise you'll get from Shaw support. And usually, it really helps. I tried that but it didnt help. Be a better pen pal. Text or chat with friends inside Yahoo! Mail. See how. http://overview.mail.yahoo.com/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Help Failing Disk Problem
On Mon, 2007-11-05 at 11:53 -0800, Sean Murphy wrote: I have a FreeBSD 6.2 Release box with a single ide that has user data and the FreeBSD OS on a hard disk that is failing. I need advice on the best way to clone the entire disk (or at least the data) onto a larger ide disk drive, then pull the failing disk and replace it with the clone. What is the best way in FreeBSD to do that? Thanks The best way is to do it regularly before the hard drive is failing. Given that you haven't done that, there're a few methods. I'm a big fan of rsync, which is the nectar of the gods, but a lot of folks seem to prefer dd for this kind of thing. There was a thread not long ago about how best to duplicate a drive. James ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Help Failing Disk Problem
At 01:53 PM 11/5/2007, Sean Murphy wrote: I have a FreeBSD 6.2 Release box with a single ide that has user data and the FreeBSD OS on a hard disk that is failing. I need advice on the best way to clone the entire disk (or at least the data) onto a larger ide disk drive, then pull the failing disk and replace it with the clone. What is the best way in FreeBSD to do that? Thanks If you buy a new disk most disk manufacturer's have cloning software. However if you are having media failure errors it can be difficult to get the data off. You may be able to just get the data you need off this disk by copying to a new disk, or top tape, or a usb disk. If you know what data you need like: /etc /usr/local/etc /usr/local/data you may be better to just copy those trees off. -Derek -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. MailScanner thanks transtec Computers for their support. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Help Failing Disk Problem
On Mon, 5 Nov 2007, Sean Murphy wrote: I have a FreeBSD 6.2 Release box with a single ide that has user data and the FreeBSD OS on a hard disk that is failing. I need advice on the best way to clone the entire disk (or at least the data) onto a larger ide disk drive, then pull the failing disk and replace it with the clone. What is the best way in FreeBSD to do that? http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/disks.html#NEW-HUGE-DISK -Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Help Failing Disk Problem
Try to connect the bad one as a secondary HD to get the data if u can not clone it.. Thanks Hakan http://dominor.com On Nov 5, 2007 3:50 PM, Derek Ragona [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 01:53 PM 11/5/2007, Sean Murphy wrote: I have a FreeBSD 6.2 Release box with a single ide that has user data and the FreeBSD OS on a hard disk that is failing. I need advice on the best way to clone the entire disk (or at least the data) onto a larger ide disk drive, then pull the failing disk and replace it with the clone. What is the best way in FreeBSD to do that? Thanks If you buy a new disk most disk manufacturer's have cloning software. However if you are having media failure errors it can be difficult to get the data off. You may be able to just get the data you need off this disk by copying to a new disk, or top tape, or a usb disk. If you know what data you need like: /etc /usr/local/etc /usr/local/data you may be better to just copy those trees off. -Derek -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. MailScanner thanks transtec Computers for their support. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Help Failing Disk Problem
On Mon, 5 Nov 2007, James wrote: On Mon, 2007-11-05 at 11:53 -0800, Sean Murphy wrote: I have a FreeBSD 6.2 Release box with a single ide that has user data and the FreeBSD OS on a hard disk that is failing. I need advice on the best way to clone the entire disk (or at least the data) onto a larger ide disk drive, then pull the failing disk and replace it with the clone. What is the best way in FreeBSD to do that? The best way is to do it regularly before the hard drive is failing. Given that you haven't done that, there're a few methods. I'm a big fan of rsync, which is the nectar of the gods, but a lot of folks seem to prefer dd for this kind of thing. rsync is too high-level, and may not do exactly the right thing with links or sparse files or who knows what. dd is too low-level--you get the same partition table/bsdlabel and the exact same slice/partition sizes. That's okay on an identical hard drive, but a pain on one that's larger. dump, on the other hand, is just right. -Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Help Failing Disk Problem
On Mon, 2007-11-05 at 14:04 -0700, Warren Block wrote: On Mon, 5 Nov 2007, James wrote: On Mon, 2007-11-05 at 11:53 -0800, Sean Murphy wrote: I have a FreeBSD 6.2 Release box with a single ide that has user data and the FreeBSD OS on a hard disk that is failing. I need advice on the best way to clone the entire disk (or at least the data) onto a larger ide disk drive, then pull the failing disk and replace it with the clone. What is the best way in FreeBSD to do that? The best way is to do it regularly before the hard drive is failing. Given that you haven't done that, there're a few methods. I'm a big fan of rsync, which is the nectar of the gods, but a lot of folks seem to prefer dd for this kind of thing. rsync is too high-level, and may not do exactly the right thing with links or sparse files or who knows what. rsync -cav takes cares of symlinks and all that just right. It's a beautiful thing. Checksumming, too. Ah, bliss. dd is too low-level--you get the same partition table/bsdlabel and the exact same slice/partition sizes. That's okay on an identical hard drive, but a pain on one that's larger. dump, on the other hand, is just right. -Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA dump has the problem that a lot of tools have, though, including rsync. It creates a file list to start from. If the file names on the drive change during the dump, corruption can occur. At least on linux. I remember Torvalds ranting about it on a mailing list. I imagine FreeBSD suffers the same issue, though, as it's a pretty generic problem. dump is a good tool, though, no arguments really here. James ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Help Failing Disk Problem
On Mon, Nov 05, 2007 at 03:16:46PM +, James wrote: rsync is too high-level, and may not do exactly the right thing with links or sparse files or who knows what. rsync -cav takes cares of symlinks and all that just right. It's a beautiful thing. Checksumming, too. Ah, bliss. It doesn't necessarily do the right thing with flags, acls and other extended attributes, dd is too low-level--you get the same partition table/bsdlabel and the exact same slice/partition sizes. That's okay on an identical hard drive, but a pain on one that's larger. dump, on the other hand, is just right. If the file names on the drive change during the dump, corruption can occur. At least on linux. I remember Torvalds ranting about it on a mailing list. I imagine FreeBSD suffers the same issue, though, as it's a pretty generic problem. For starters, you should _never_ dump a live filesystem. What you can do is dump a snapshot of a live filesystem, using dumps '-L' option, because a snapshot is like a frozen image of the filesystem; it doesn't change. Dump restore is the best way to move data and all attributes to a larger disk. See §9.2 of the FAQ. Roland -- R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) pgpQI3Oof6eue.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Help Failing Disk Problem
On Mon, Nov 05, 2007 at 11:53:13AM -0800, Sean Murphy wrote: I have a FreeBSD 6.2 Release box with a single ide that has user data and the FreeBSD OS on a hard disk that is failing. I need advice on the best way to clone the entire disk (or at least the data) onto a larger ide disk drive, then pull the failing disk and replace it with the clone. What is the best way in FreeBSD to do that? If you can get the new disk physically installed and recognized and running before the old disk completely fails, then it should be no problem. Build the file systems on the new disk as you want them, then use dump/retore to move the data. The dump/restore needs to be done one filesystem at a time. NOTE: For best results, this should all be done in single user mode with no other thing running to avoid changes in files confusing things. It will work in full multi user mode, but you may get some files in indeterminate condition if they happen to change during the copy process. Either use sysinstall (/usr/sbin/sysinstall) to slice and partition the new drive and build file systems on it or do it yourself with fdisk, bsdlabel and newfs. Since you are using a larger drive, think out the sizes you want for the partitions on the new drive. I am guessing from the way you talk here, that the system is not dual booted with some other OS. Given that presumption: (This is right out of the bsdlabel man page, by the way. I just changed numbers and device names to fit the situation) NOTE: The dd-s below are just to make sure the label areas and such are wiped clean in case the manufacturer made some presumptions and wrote something there. They might not really be needed, but won't hurt anything and take just a moment. Create one large slice, marked bootable for FreeBSD: dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/ad1 bs=512 count=1024 fdisk -BI da0 Write a basic label and boot record on the slice: dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/ad1s1 bs=512 count=1024 bsdlabel -w -B ad1s1 Partition the slice by using the edit function of bsdlabel: bsdlabel -e ad1s1 This will put you in an edit screen with the beginnings of partition information. Ignore anything it might have before the lines that read: # /dev/ad1s1: 8 partitions: # size offsetfstype [fsize bsize bps/cpg] After that you will see a list of partitions. There should only be one 'c' partition listed. Do not change that line, but copy it enough times to have one for each partition you want. Lets say you want root, swap, /tmp, /usr, /var and /home. Then make it something like: # /dev/ad1s1: 8 partitions: # size offsetfstype [fsize bsize bps/cpg] a: 52428804.2BSD2048 16384 32776 b: 2572288* swap c: 783168750unused 0 0# raw part, don't edit d: 1048576*4.2BSD2048 16384 8 e: 4194304*4.2BSD2048 16384 28552 f: 6291456*4.2BSD2048 16384 28552 g:**4.2BSD2048 16384 28552 Then just :wq out of the edit session and your label is nicely written. Using the stars for offset and final size tells bsdlabel to calculate the offsets for you and make the last partition take up all the remaining available space. The first partition should have the offset specified as '0'.The numbers I have here are in 512 byte blocks and give the following sizes.Choose your own according to your needs. a: 256 MBI mount as / b: 1256 MBis swap d: 512 MBI mount as /tmp e: 2048 MBI mount as /usr f: 3072 MBI mount as /var g: Remainder MB I mount as /home Once that is finished, then you need to run new fs on each partition except the one for swap (b). eg. newfs a, d, e, f, g Generally, unless you need extra inodes for a lot of small files or expect only unusually large files, you can just take the defaults for newfs. so: newfs /dev/ad1s1a newfs /dev/ad1s1d newfs /dev/ad1s1e newfs /dev/ad1s1f newfs /dev/ad1s1g Now you need to make mount points for and mount each partition. Something like: mkdir /newroot mount /dev/ad1s1a /newroot mkdir /newusr mount /dev/ad1s1e /newusr mkdir /newvar mount /dev/ad1s1f /newvar mkdir /newhome mount /dev/ad1s1g /newhome You don't usually need to copy /tmp to the new disk, though you can do that if you want as well. Then do the dump/restore-s cd /newroot dump 0af - / | restore -rf - cd /newusr dump 0af - /usr | restore -rf - cd /newvar dump 0af - /var | restore -rf - cd /newhome dump 0af - /home | restore -rf - At the end of each dump it might ask you if you want to set permissions on . just answer no. I don't think it does that with the restore -r, but if it does, then answer no. After all this, you should be able to just physically switch the disks and boot on the new one. jerry Thanks
Re: Help Failing Disk Problem
Roland, The mention of dump '-L' in your email below has caught my attention. Pardon my ignorance, but what is the '-L' option? I looked it up in the man pages but wasn't able to find any mention of it. Can you point me in the right direction? Thanks, - FX - Original Message From: Roland Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: James [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Sean Murphy [EMAIL PROTECTED]; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sent: Monday, November 5, 2007 4:58:47 PM Subject: Re: Help Failing Disk Problem On Mon, Nov 05, 2007 at 03:16:46PM +, James wrote: rsync is too high-level, and may not do exactly the right thing with links or sparse files or who knows what. rsync -cav takes cares of symlinks and all that just right. It's a beautiful thing. Checksumming, too. Ah, bliss. It doesn't necessarily do the right thing with flags, acls and other extended attributes, dd is too low-level--you get the same partition table/bsdlabel and the exact same slice/partition sizes. That's okay on an identical hard drive, but a pain on one that's larger. dump, on the other hand, is just right. If the file names on the drive change during the dump, corruption can occur. At least on linux. I remember Torvalds ranting about it on a mailing list. I imagine FreeBSD suffers the same issue, though, as it's a pretty generic problem. For starters, you should _never_ dump a live filesystem. What you can do is dump a snapshot of a live filesystem, using dumps '-L' option, because a snapshot is like a frozen image of the filesystem; it doesn't change. Dump restore is the best way to move data and all attributes to a larger disk. See §9.2 of the FAQ. Roland -- R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Help Failing Disk Problem
On Mon, Nov 05, 2007 at 02:40:36PM -0800, FX Charpentier wrote: Roland, The mention of dump '-L' in your email below has caught my attention. Pardon my ignorance, but what is the '-L' option? I looked it up in the man pages but wasn't able to find any mention of it. Can you point me in the right direction? It stands for 'Live' and causes dump to do some snapshotting if you are running from multi user. It is not really meaningful if you are running in single user mode, but can help reduce confusion if files change during a dump on a live multi user mode system. jerry Thanks, - FX ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Help Failing Disk Problem
Thanks. I might actually use this on a box I'm running. Best, - FX - Original Message From: Jerry McAllister [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: FX Charpentier [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Roland Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED]; James [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Sean Murphy [EMAIL PROTECTED]; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sent: Monday, November 5, 2007 7:18:57 PM Subject: Re: Help Failing Disk Problem On Mon, Nov 05, 2007 at 02:40:36PM -0800, FX Charpentier wrote: Roland, The mention of dump '-L' in your email below has caught my attention. Pardon my ignorance, but what is the '-L' option? I looked it up in the man pages but wasn't able to find any mention of it. Can you point me in the right direction? It stands for 'Live' and causes dump to do some snapshotting if you are running from multi user. It is not really meaningful if you are running in single user mode, but can help reduce confusion if files change during a dump on a live multi user mode system. jerry Thanks, - FX __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Help Failing Disk Problem
James [EMAIL PROTECTED], said on Mon Nov 05, 2007 [03:16:46 PM]: } On Mon, 2007-11-05 at 14:04 -0700, Warren Block wrote: } } On Mon, 5 Nov 2007, James wrote: } } On Mon, 2007-11-05 at 11:53 -0800, Sean Murphy wrote: } } I have a FreeBSD 6.2 Release box with a single ide that has user data } and the FreeBSD OS on a hard disk that is failing. I need advice on the } best way to clone the entire disk (or at least the data) onto a larger } ide disk drive, then pull the failing disk and replace it with the } clone. What is the best way in FreeBSD to do that? } } The best way is to do it regularly before the hard drive is failing. } } Given that you haven't done that, there're a few methods. I'm a big fan } of rsync, which is the nectar of the gods, but a lot of folks seem to } prefer dd for this kind of thing. } } rsync is too high-level, and may not do exactly the right thing with } links or sparse files or who knows what. } } rsync -cav takes cares of symlinks and all that just right. It's a } beautiful thing. } } Checksumming, too. Ah, bliss. Reading the man page, I believe that will make copies instead of hard links for files with more than one link. By my reading, you'd have to specify -H in addition. As others have pointed out, if you're using ACLs or other extended attributes, those may be lost as well. This is why I think _in principle_ using a tool which has as its sole purpose in life the backup and restore, unmolested, of filesystems, is the best general approach to this problem. Other tools may work too, but you have to put a lot of thought and care into getting 473 of their 1692 command line options right (made up numbers, obviously) and that's never good when you're in the heat of the moment and your data is at stake. } dump has the problem that a lot of tools have, though, including rsync. } It creates a file list to start from. } } If the file names on the drive change during the dump, corruption can } occur. At least on linux. I remember Torvalds ranting about it on a } mailing list. I imagine FreeBSD suffers the same issue, though, as it's } a pretty generic problem. Use dump (or anything else, for that matter) on a snapshot. Of course, all bets are off since the disk is already failing. The common case is that the OP may get most of the files off in tact; probably not all. Backups are important if you care about your data. -- Jon Hamilton [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Help Failing Disk Problem
On Mon, Nov 05, 2007 at 02:40:36PM -0800, FX Charpentier wrote:
Roland,
The mention of dump '-L' in your email below has caught my attention.
Pardon my ignorance, but what is the '-L' option?
I looked it up in the man pages but wasn't able to find any mention of it.
Can you point me in the right direction?
It's in dump(8);
-L This option is to notify dump that it is dumping a live file sys-
tem. To obtain a consistent dump image, dump takes a snapshot of
the file system in the .snap directory in the root of the file
system being dumped and then does a dump of the snapshot. The
snapshot is unlinked as soon as the dump starts, and is thus
removed when the dump is complete. This option is ignored for
unmounted or read-only file systems. If the .snap directory does
not exist in the root of the file system being dumped, a warning
will be issued and the dump will revert to the standard behavior.
This problem can be corrected by creating a .snap directory in
the root of the file system to be dumped; its owner should be
``root'', its group should be ``operator'', and its mode should
be ``0770''.
I use dump with the following options (e.g. for /usr);
dump -0 -B 4589560 -C 8 -h 0 -L -u -P \
'cat - usr-0-20071106-vol${DUMP_VOLUME}.dump' /usr
This splits dump output in DVD-R sized chunks.
Roland
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Re: Help Failing Disk Problem
I use dump with the following options (e.g. for /usr);
dump -0 -B 4589560 -C 8 -h 0 -L -u -P \
'cat - usr-0-20071106-vol${DUMP_VOLUME}.dump' /usr
This splits dump output in DVD-R sized chunks.
completely strange
better
-f file1,file2,file3,.
(you may type more files than actually needed).
one unneeded extra pipe avoided.
if you use pipe, use with growisofs.
BUT with DVD+RW disks you may use /dev/cd0 directly as dump device
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Re: Help with Cron pleazzzzzzzzzzzz
In response to VeeJay [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hello Gurus…. I am running a status script written in Perl (*status.pl*) and want to have it *Always Running*. How can I check through CRON that status.pl is running and if NO, then start the script execution again? Please help and advise… Have you considered something like daemontools? It's designed for such a task, as opposed to reinventing the wheel. -- Bill Moran http://www.potentialtech.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Help with Cron pleazzzzzzzzzzzz
On October 31, 2007 07:58:21 am VeeJay wrote: Hello Gurus…. I am running a status script written in Perl (*status.pl*) and want to have it *Always Running*. How can I check through CRON that status.pl is running and if NO, then start the script execution again? Please help and advise… With a bundle of thanks! You could write a shell script something like: #!/bin/bash ps -ax | grep 'status.pl' if [ $q -eq 0 ] then status.pl fi grep will return zero if it finds a line containing 'status.pl', and 1 otherwise. in crontab, use * * * * * /full/path/to/script-above and it will check every minute. But a better fix would be to find the bug in status.pl that makes it crash! -- Mike Jeays http://www.jeays.ca ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Help with Cron pleazzzzzzzzzzzz
Quoting Mike Jeays [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On October 31, 2007 07:58:21 am VeeJay wrote: I am running a status script written in Perl (*status.pl*) and want to have it *Always Running*. How can I check through CRON that status.pl is running and if NO, then start the script execution again? Please help and advise... You could write a shell script something like: A couple nits: #!/bin/bash #!/bin/sh ps -ax | grep 'status.pl' This should probably be something like ps -ax | grep 'status.pl' | grep -v grep so you don't get false positives from the grep process itself. JN if [ $q -eq 0 ] then status.pl fi grep will return zero if it finds a line containing 'status.pl', and 1 otherwise. in crontab, use * * * * * /full/path/to/script-above and it will check every minute. But a better fix would be to find the bug in status.pl that makes it crash! -- Mike Jeays http://www.jeays.ca ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Help Plz... Cron Job question....hellp...
VeeJay [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hello Gurus…. I am running a status script written in Perl (*status.pl*) and want to have it *Always Running*. How can I check through CRON that status.pl is running and if NO, then start the script execution again? Why don't you use the following SH script? whule true; do perl status.pl done It will restart `status.pl' whenever it dies. -- Best wishes, Michaël ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Help with Cron pleazzzzzzzzzzzz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 10/31/07, VeeJay wrote: I am running a status script written in Perl (*status.pl*) and want to have it *Always Running*. How can I check through CRON that status.pl is running and if NO, then start the script execution again? Run monit. http://www.freshports.org/sysutils/monit/ Here's an example config for making sure sshd is running: $ cat /etc/monit.d/sshd check process sshd with pidfile /var/run/sshd.pid start program /etc/init.d/sshd start stop program /etc/init.d/sshd stop if failed port 22 protocol ssh then restart if 5 restarts within 5 cycles then timeout - -- Andy Harrison public key: 0x67518262 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: http://firegpg.tuxfamily.org iD8DBQFHKHeKNTm8fWdRgmIRAoZGAJ0ZJCzDedOEzVqJFYlniZshPKJmPwCaA8Uh pPYRFCDdrIk1YgYPcyH0hew= =dr1X -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Help with Cron pleazzzzzzzzzzzz
On Wed, 31 Oct 2007 10:02:53 -0400 John Nielsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This should probably be something like ps -ax | grep 'status.pl' | grep -v grep so you don't get false positives from the grep process itself. or simply use: pgrep status\.pl ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Help Plz... Cron Job question....hellp...
call a script called script.sh from cron e.g. every minute. script.sh contains: #!/bin/sh ps -a | grep status.pl | | perl status.pl Am Mittwoch 31 Oktober 2007 08:32 schrieb VeeJay: Hello Gurus…. I am running a status script written in Perl (*status.pl*) and want to have it *Always Running*. How can I check through CRON that status.pl is running and if NO, then start the script execution again? Please help and advise… With a bundle of thanks! pgpFA51yluLwN.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: help in deletion part of a line
On Mon, Oct 22, 2007 at 03:41:40PM -0700, Gary Kline wrote: Is there an easier way by sed or ed to remove strings (caight by grep) of the sort: part5.chapter2.text- where 5 and 2 can be any integer below 10? (I know how to delete the *entire* line using ed, but not just the first part? gilmour% echo testpart5.chapter2.text-test | sed 's/part[0-9].chapter[0-9]\.text-//g' testtest Modify as necessary. -- Benjamin A'Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://subvert.org.uk/~bma/ The right to search for truth implies also a duty; one must not conceal any part of what one has recognized to be true. - Albert Einstein pgpFBKGG7xX7m.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: help in deletion part of a line
On 23-Oct-07, at 4:11 AM, Gary Kline wrote: Is there an easier way by sed or ed to remove strings (caight by grep) of the sort: part5.chapter2.text- where 5 and 2 can be any integer below 10? (I know how to delete the *entire* line using ed, but not just the first part? $ echo 'part5.chapter2.text-' | tr -d '[0-9]' part.chapter.text- $ echo 'part5.chapter2.text-' | sed 's/[0-9]//g' part.chapter.text- regards, shantanoo ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: help in deletion part of a line
On Tue, Oct 23, 2007 at 03:37:13AM +0100, Benjamin M. A'Lee wrote: On Mon, Oct 22, 2007 at 03:41:40PM -0700, Gary Kline wrote: Is there an easier way by sed or ed to remove strings (caight by grep) of the sort: part5.chapter2.text- where 5 and 2 can be any integer below 10? (I know how to delete the *entire* line using ed, but not just the first part? gilmour% echo testpart5.chapter2.text-test | sed 's/part[0-9].chapter[0-9]\.text-//g' testtest Modify as necessary. Thanks. I was able to get rid of things likie -567-[text] from ^, but the part[1-5]. --- OH::: I didn't escape the . Duh::: hit myself in the forehead! ... slinking away... . gary -- Benjamin A'Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://subvert.org.uk/~bma/ The right to search for truth implies also a duty; one must not conceal any part of what one has recognized to be true. - Albert Einstein -- Gary Kline [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: help in deletion part of a line
On Tue, Oct 23, 2007 at 08:13:49AM +0530, Shantanoo Mahajan wrote: On 23-Oct-07, at 4:11 AM, Gary Kline wrote: Is there an easier way by sed or ed to remove strings (caight by grep) of the sort: part5.chapter2.text- where 5 and 2 can be any integer below 10? (I know how to delete the *entire* line using ed, but not just the first part? $ echo 'part5.chapter2.text-' | tr -d '[0-9]' part.chapter.text- $ echo 'part5.chapter2.text-' | sed 's/[0-9]//g' part.chapter.text- This would help unify my regex since I have part7.chapter4.text as well as misc other shtuff. (I like tr ... it's easy and has many uses... .) thanks. gary regards, shantanoo -- Gary Kline [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: help: the Input problem
Thanks. Finally, I set all the env variables in ¬/.tcshrc, It works. 2007/10/8, Jerry McAllister [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Mon, Oct 08, 2007 at 10:23:01AM +0800, ronggui wrote: I use scim as my input. When I use bash as my login shell, I add these lines to ~/.profile export LANG=zh_CN.eucCN export LC_ALL=zh_CN.eucCN export G_BROKEN_FILENAMES=1 export G_FILENAME_ENCODING=GBK export XMODIFIERS='@im=SCIM' scim -d All is fine. But I would like to use tcsh as my login shell, and try to add the followings to ~/.login_conf me:\ :lang=zh_CN.eucCN:\ :charset=gbk:\ :setenv=LC_ALL=zh_CN.eucCN:\ :setenv=LC_COLLATE=zh_CN.eucCN:\ :setenv=LC_CTYPE=zh_CN.eucCN:\ :setenv=LC_MESSAGES=zh_CN.eucCN:\ :setenv=LC_MONETARY=zh_CN.eucCN:\ :setenv=LC_NUMERIC=zh_CN.eucCN:\ :setenv=LC_TIME=zh_CN.eucCN:\ :setenv=G_BROKEN_FILENAMES=1:\ :setenv=G_FILENAME_ENCODING=GBK:\ :setenv=XMODIFIERS=@im=SCIM: and add scim -d to the ~/.xsession. I can't toggle on the scim. PS: I login in with kdm. What should I do to use tcsh as my login shell? Change the last field in your /etc/passwd entry to '/bin/tcsh' and make sure /bin/tcsh is listed in /etc/shells You can then put whatever you want to set for your account in your /home_directory_path/.cshrc file jerry Thanks -- Ronggui Huang Department of Sociology, Fudan University, Shanghai, China Department of Public and Social Administration, CityU, HK ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Ronggui Huang Department of Sociology, Fudan University, Shanghai, China Department of Public and Social Administration, CityU, HK ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: help: the Input problem
On Tue, Oct 16, 2007 at 06:19:31PM +0800, ronggui wrote: Thanks. Finally, I set all the env variables in ¬/.tcshrc, It works. Far out!! jerry 2007/10/8, Jerry McAllister [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Mon, Oct 08, 2007 at 10:23:01AM +0800, ronggui wrote: I use scim as my input. When I use bash as my login shell, I add these lines to ~/.profile export LANG=zh_CN.eucCN export LC_ALL=zh_CN.eucCN export G_BROKEN_FILENAMES=1 export G_FILENAME_ENCODING=GBK export XMODIFIERS='@im=SCIM' scim -d All is fine. But I would like to use tcsh as my login shell, and try to add the followings to ~/.login_conf me:\ :lang=zh_CN.eucCN:\ :charset=gbk:\ :setenv=LC_ALL=zh_CN.eucCN:\ :setenv=LC_COLLATE=zh_CN.eucCN:\ :setenv=LC_CTYPE=zh_CN.eucCN:\ :setenv=LC_MESSAGES=zh_CN.eucCN:\ :setenv=LC_MONETARY=zh_CN.eucCN:\ :setenv=LC_NUMERIC=zh_CN.eucCN:\ :setenv=LC_TIME=zh_CN.eucCN:\ :setenv=G_BROKEN_FILENAMES=1:\ :setenv=G_FILENAME_ENCODING=GBK:\ :setenv=XMODIFIERS=@im=SCIM: and add scim -d to the ~/.xsession. I can't toggle on the scim. PS: I login in with kdm. What should I do to use tcsh as my login shell? Change the last field in your /etc/passwd entry to '/bin/tcsh' and make sure /bin/tcsh is listed in /etc/shells You can then put whatever you want to set for your account in your /home_directory_path/.cshrc file jerry Thanks -- Ronggui Huang Department of Sociology, Fudan University, Shanghai, China Department of Public and Social Administration, CityU, HK ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Ronggui Huang Department of Sociology, Fudan University, Shanghai, China Department of Public and Social Administration, CityU, HK ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: help with text-append over SSH ? - dd: unknown operand
On 2007-10-12 16:43, Juri Mianovich [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Giorgos Keramidas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 2007-10-11 16:49, Juri Mianovich [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have an account on a system where I cannot log in over SSH, but I _can_ run a limited set of commands remotely, over SSH. (I am in a jail of some sorts). I want to append the contents of a local text file to the contents of a remote text file, over SSH. Normally, I would do this locally with: cat file1 file2 But again, file2 is remote, and I can't log in there... I have access to the 'echo' command and the 'dd' command (among others) on the remote host ... so for instance, I can do things like this: ssh [EMAIL PROTECTED] rm -rf filename So, with all that in mind, how do I append the contents of a local file to a remote file, over SSH, using either 'echo' or 'dd' ? Try running: cat file1 | ssh [EMAIL PROTECTED] dd file2 Thank you - I do indeed need to use 'dd' because I don't have access to 'cat' in the chroot. However, when I use your example, I get this error: dd: unknown operand So I have something off a bit ... help ? Then you are not running a 'standard shell', but some sort of local hack and/or wrapper: kobe- ssh server echo 'hello world' foo kobe- ssh server od -c foo 000 h e l l o w o r l d \n 014 kobe- echo hello new world | ssh server dd foo 0+1 records in 0+1 records out kobe- ssh server od -c foo 000 h e l l o w o r l d \n h e l l 020 o n e w w o r l d \n 034 kobe- I'm sorry, but I don't think you can get effective help from the FreeBSD lists. You will have to ask for specific guidelines and help from your hosting provider. Anything else will be guesswork and may break without any sort of notice in the future, when your host decides to install a new security fix to their custom shell. - Giorgos ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: help with text-append over SSH ?
On 10/14/07, Wojciech Puchar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 'dd' command (among others) on the remote host ... so for instance, I can do things like this: ssh [EMAIL PROTECTED] rm -rf filename So, with all that in mind, how do I append the contents of a local file to a remote file, over SSH, using either 'echo' or 'dd' ? cat file |ssh [EMAIL PROTECTED] cat file replace cat with dd if you have to You can drop the first cat ssh [EMAIL PROTECTED] cat file file =Adriaan= ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: help with text-append over SSH ? - dd: unknown operand
I want to append the contents of a local text file to the contents of a remote text file, over SSH. : Andrew Pantyukhin wrote: cat file1 | ssh [EMAIL PROTECTED] dd -of file2 That will replace the contents of file2, not append it. Also it should be dd of=file1. However, you can use seek=n to append, like this: cat file1 | ssh remote dd of=file2 seek=n ... where n is the length of file2 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: help with text-append over SSH ? - dd: unknown operand
On Saturday 13 October 2007 12:08:16 Svein Halvor Halvorsen wrote: I want to append the contents of a local text file to the contents of a remote text file, over SSH. Andrew Pantyukhin wrote: cat file1 | ssh [EMAIL PROTECTED] dd -of file2 That will replace the contents of file2, not append it. Also it should be dd of=file1. However, you can use seek=n to append, like this: cat file1 | ssh remote dd of=file2 seek=n ... where n is the length of file2 or better: cat file1 | ssh remote dd of=file2 conv=notrunc -- Mel ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: help with text-append over SSH ?
'dd' command (among others) on the remote host ... so for instance, I can do things like this: ssh [EMAIL PROTECTED] rm -rf filename So, with all that in mind, how do I append the contents of a local file to a remote file, over SSH, using either 'echo' or 'dd' ? Thanks. cat file |ssh [EMAIL PROTECTED] cat file replace cat with dd if you have to Catch up on fall's hot new shows on Yahoo! TV. Watch previews, get listings, and more! http://tv.yahoo.com/collections/3658 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: help with text-append over SSH ?
On 2007-10-11 16:49, Juri Mianovich [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have an account on a system where I cannot log in over SSH, but I _can_ run a limited set of commands remotely, over SSH. (I am in a jail of some sorts). I want to append the contents of a local text file to the contents of a remote text file, over SSH. Normally, I would do this locally with: cat file1 file2 But again, file2 is remote, and I can't log in there... I have access to the 'echo' command and the 'dd' command (among others) on the remote host ... so for instance, I can do things like this: ssh [EMAIL PROTECTED] rm -rf filename So, with all that in mind, how do I append the contents of a local file to a remote file, over SSH, using either 'echo' or 'dd' ? Try running: cat file1 | ssh [EMAIL PROTECTED] dd file2 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: help with text-append over SSH ?
On Friday 12 October 2007 01:49:04 Juri Mianovich wrote: I have an account on a system where I cannot log in over SSH, but I _can_ run a limited set of commands remotely, over SSH. (I am in a jail of some sorts). I want to append the contents of a local text file to the contents of a remote text file, over SSH. Normally, I would do this locally with: cat file1 file2 But again, file2 is remote, and I can't log in there... I have access to the 'echo' command and the 'dd' command (among others) on the remote host ... so for instance, I can do things like this: ssh [EMAIL PROTECTED] rm -rf filename So, with all that in mind, how do I append the contents of a local file to a remote file, over SSH, using either 'echo' or 'dd' ? With echo or dd I don't know. With cat you can do it this way: cat file1 | ssh [EMAIL PROTECTED] cat file2 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: help with text-append over SSH ?
On Fri, October 12, 2007 01:49, Juri Mianovich wrote: I have an account on a system where I cannot log in over SSH, but I _can_ run a limited set of commands remotely, over SSH. (I am in a jail of some sorts). I want to append the contents of a local text file to the contents of a remote text file, over SSH. Normally, I would do this locally with: cat file1 file2 But again, file2 is remote, and I can't log in there... I have access to the 'echo' command and the 'dd' command (among others) on the remote host ... so for instance, I can do things like this: Just did some testing and this should work: cat localtext | ssh remote cat remotetext Peter -- http://www.boosten.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
