Re: concerning flash under freebsd
On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 7:40 PM, Harald Weis ha...@free.fr wrote: On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 03:04:00PM +0200, C. P. Ghost wrote: On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 12:11 AM, Programmer in Training p...@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us wrote: I will tell Adobe to provide a FreeBSD-native release, though it would be nice to know I won't be the only one. I'm actually going right now to do so. Good luck with that. Adobe doesn't care about FreeBSD. Never did, and probably never will. They don't even care about 64-bit Linux users... If you absolutely need Flash on FreeBSD, I'd suggest you install VirtualBox, and inside VirtualBox a Flash-supported OS, like OpenSolaris (that's what I do when I absolutely need Flash support). It's not the cleanest solution, but at least, I don't have to clutter my FreeBSD system with A LOT of Linux dependencies just to get a barely working Flash. -cpghost. I followed your advice when I discovered your message. No problem to install the opensolaris guest and the flash player. Video seems okay, but there is no sound and I cannot find out why. Needless to say that audio works fine on the host which is still on 8.0-RELEASE-p4 for the time being. I can't imagine that this could be the reason. Yes, I remember there was a sound problem with the last official release of OpenSolaris (2009.06). But this was not related to VirtualBox, it was a configuration issue with OpenSolaris itself. I installed OSS drivers manually in osol, and that fixed the problem for me. I guess that updating or installing a newer snv version would help, even without having to mess around with OSS. The latest snv would thus be snv_147 on OpenIndiana, but I haven't tested it yet: http://openindiana.org/download/ Good luck. ;-) Thank you in advance for any help. Harald Weis -cpghost. -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: concerning flash under freebsd
On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 03:04:00PM +0200, C. P. Ghost wrote: On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 12:11 AM, Programmer in Training p...@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us wrote: I will tell Adobe to provide a FreeBSD-native release, though it would be nice to know I won't be the only one. I'm actually going right now to do so. Good luck with that. Adobe doesn't care about FreeBSD. Never did, and probably never will. They don't even care about 64-bit Linux users... If you absolutely need Flash on FreeBSD, I'd suggest you install VirtualBox, and inside VirtualBox a Flash-supported OS, like OpenSolaris (that's what I do when I absolutely need Flash support). It's not the cleanest solution, but at least, I don't have to clutter my FreeBSD system with A LOT of Linux dependencies just to get a barely working Flash. -cpghost. I followed your advice when I discovered your message. No problem to install the opensolaris guest and the flash player. Video seems okay, but there is no sound and I cannot find out why. Needless to say that audio works fine on the host which is still on 8.0-RELEASE-p4 for the time being. I can't imagine that this could be the reason. Thank you in advance for any help. Harald Weis ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: concerning flash under freebsd
As much as I am now a no-user of Flash, allow me the following comments. On Tue, 15 Jun 2010 15:49:56 -0600, Programmer in Training p...@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us wrote: Almost all Internet video has moved to flash as well (such as all the sermons on sermons.net which my church uses). That's all within transition. Currently, big video portals are moving to HTML5, often including the wish to also use free and open standards for their videos so they can access a bigger audience. Keeping things in Flash is a no-go. A main problem of Flash is that is isn't compatible with the upcoming trend to move to portable devices. Only HTML5 and compliant browsers will be present on those platforms, and those who keep their sites in Flash will be out of scope soon. HTML5 will be the future; Flash already is the past. Soon, it won't be important anymore. Conforming to standards will be the key to all those new platforms that customers are interested in. Flash is buggy, I'll give you that, but Don't install it. is not an option for a lot of people. I had been using Flash in the past (on FreeBSD). It was so annoying that I finally completely removed it. It has become *the* choice of professional web developers to make their sites unusable and finally unaccessible, as well as a big annoyance of users, primarily due to its sheer overuse for advertising purposes. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: concerning flash under freebsd
Quoting Polytropon free...@edvax.de: As much as I am now a no-user of Flash, allow me the following comments. On Tue, 15 Jun 2010 15:49:56 -0600, Programmer in Training p...@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us wrote: Almost all Internet video has moved to flash as well (such as all the sermons on sermons.net which my church uses). That's all within transition. Currently, big video portals are moving to HTML5, often including the wish to also use free and open standards for their videos so they can access a bigger That's a no-go, I have it on good authority that h.264 was chosen over Theora. That along with mpeg-la having put out a press release saying it won't charge royalties for free uses of some of it's patents several months ago[0], while I would love for Theora to have won out as the standard, once again corporate interest (this time a big push from Apple, from what I understand) has won out. audience. Keeping things in Flash is a no-go. A main problem of Flash is that is isn't compatible with the upcoming trend to move to portable devices. Only HTML5 and compliant browsers will be present on those platforms, and those who keep their sites in Flash will be out of scope soon. I've only seen some examples of HTML5 sites. My own reluctance to start coding with it is the fact that it's still open to tons of change. HTML5 will be the future; Flash already is the past. Soon, it won't be important anymore. Conforming to standards will be the key to all those new platforms that customers are interested in. You mean the ones who don't mind being told what's best for them (think iPad)? Flash is buggy, I'll give you that, but Don't install it. is not an option for a lot of people. I had been using Flash in the past (on FreeBSD). It was so annoying that I finally completely removed it. It has become *the* choice of professional web developers to make their sites unusable and finally unaccessible, as well as a big annoyance of users, primarily due to its sheer overuse for advertising purposes. I never use flash where I'm able to avoid it. I have one client wanting to use it for a simple transition (with affects) on one spot in the front page. I personally won't use the stuff for website development and disallow those sorts of ads. Until HTML5 support is universal in all browser ports (there was mention of that not being the case) talk of HTML5 video verges on the pointless. Yes, Flash is old news and has been for a while. Yes, Flash is not portable because Adobe is a jerk and many mobile/portable device makers won't support it. But that's all irregardless to the OPs question of bugginess on FreeBSD. If the Linux emulation isn't enough and there is no option but to switch to an entirely different platform, why even provide such an option? Linux emulation takes up a lot of resources (space wise on the drive). -- Yours in Christ, PIT All original content (C) under the OWL http://owl.apotheon.org Emails are not formal business letters, whatever businesses may want. Please do not CC me. If I'm posting to a list it is because I am subscribed. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: concerning flash under freebsd
Programmer in Training wrote: Quoting Polytropon free...@edvax.de: On Tue, 15 Jun 2010 15:49:56 -0600, Programmer in Training p...@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us wrote: Almost all Internet video has moved to flash as well (such as all the sermons on sermons.net which my church uses). That's all within transition. Currently, big video portals are moving to HTML5, often including the wish to also use free and open standards for their videos so they can access a bigger That's a no-go, I have it on good authority that h.264 was chosen over Theora. That along with mpeg-la having put out a press release saying it won't charge royalties for free uses of some of it's patents several months ago[0], while I would love for Theora to have won out as the standard, once again corporate interest (this time a big push from Apple, from what I understand) has won out. And Mozilla won't use H264. Also add into the mix that Google has just bought VP8 and open sourced it. Mozilla supports VP8 but Apple is already dissing it: http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/blog/2010/may/20/apple-steve-jobs-vp8-patent So I think we have a very long way to go before we can stop using flash for web based video. (According to wikipedia Theora is a fork of VP3 which the developer On2 released some time ago. VP6 made into macromedia flash codec. So On2's codecs have a long history of video on the web.) won't support it. But that's all irregardless to the OPs question of bugginess on FreeBSD. If the Linux emulation isn't enough and there is no option but to switch to an entirely different platform, why even provide such an option? Linux emulation takes up a lot of resources (space wise on the drive). Flash video works absolutely fine here and there is a lot of great content and interesting and entertaining material out there. I'm really grateful to the FreeBSD developers for getting it working so well :) FreeBSD muji2.config 8.0-RELEASE-p2 FreeBSD 8.0-RELEASE-p2 #0: Wed Mar 24 11:51:43 GMT 2010 r...@muji2.config:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC i386 firefox-3.5.8,1 linux-f10-flashplugin-10.0r42 flashblock 1.5.13 # This may be a critical feature of a successful flash intallation. Chris ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: concerning flash under freebsd
On Thu, 17 Jun 2010 03:51:40 -0600 Programmer in Training p...@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us wrote: Quoting Polytropon free...@edvax.de: That's all within transition. Currently, big video portals are moving to HTML5, often including the wish to also use free and open standards for their videos so they can access a bigger That's a no-go, I have it on good authority that h.264 was chosen over Theora. That along with mpeg-la having put out a press release saying it won't charge royalties for free uses of some of it's patents several months ago[0], while I would love for Theora to have won out as the standard, once again corporate interest (this time a big push from Apple, from what I understand) has won out. As I understand it, originally Ogg Theora was going to be the standard, but it's now been left open instead due to uncertainty about Theora infringing patents. Some sites are using Theora, but most seem to be going with h.264. I presume that this is due to IE support for h.264. I believe Google are going with h.264 and a newer BSD licensed codec they are sponsoring themselves as an open-source, patent-free alternative. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: concerning flash under freebsd
RW wrote: [snip] As I understand it, originally Ogg Theora was going to be the standard, but it's now been left open instead due to uncertainty about Theora infringing patents. Some sites are using Theora, but most seem to be going with h.264. I presume that this is due to IE support for h.264. I believe Google are going with h.264 and a newer BSD licensed codec they are sponsoring themselves as an open-source, patent-free alternative. http://x264dev.multimedia.cx/?p=292 Google wants to promote it's VP8, which is at this point clearly inferior to h.264. Browser wars turned Codec wars. We, the users are always overlooked and no consideration given by those who wear the suits and ties. And the arguing points they utilize within their 'decision by committee' process are usually a distorted view of non-reality. -Mike ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Theora vs h.264 [Was Re: concerning flash under freebsd]
Quoting RW rwmailli...@googlemail.com: On Thu, 17 Jun 2010 03:51:40 -0600 Programmer in Training p...@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us wrote: Quoting Polytropon free...@edvax.de: That's all within transition. Currently, big video portals are moving to HTML5, often including the wish to also use free and open standards for their videos so they can access a bigger That's a no-go, I have it on good authority that h.264 was chosen over Theora. That along with mpeg-la having put out a press release saying it won't charge royalties for free uses of some of it's patents several months ago[0], while I would love for Theora to have won out as the standard, once again corporate interest (this time a big push from Apple, from what I understand) has won out. As I understand it, originally Ogg Theora was going to be the standard, but it's now been left open instead due to uncertainty about Theora infringing patents. Some sites are using Theora, but most seem to be going with h.264. I presume that this is due to IE support for h.264. It's quite possible if the h.264 patents are really as extensive and broad as mpeg-la claims (also, if they are so overly broad, they need to be invalidated as patents are for specific inventions). I believe Google are going with h.264 and a newer BSD licensed codec they are sponsoring themselves as an open-source, patent-free alternative. I thought Google was going with VP8 (as was mentioned earlier)? I have a friend or two on the HTML5WG mailing list as the source of a good deal of my info. -- Yours in Christ, PIT All original content (C) under the OWL http://owl.apotheon.org Emails are not formal business letters, whatever businesses may want. Please do not CC me. If I'm posting to a list it is because I am subscribed. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: concerning flash under freebsd
Quoting Chris Whitehouse cwhi...@onetel.com: Programmer in Training wrote: Quoting Polytropon free...@edvax.de: On Tue, 15 Jun 2010 15:49:56 -0600, Programmer in Training p...@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us wrote: snip That's a no-go, I have it on good authority that h.264 was chosen over Theora. That along with mpeg-la having put out a press release saying it won't charge royalties for free uses of some of it's patents several months ago[0], while I would love for Theora to have won out as the standard, once again corporate interest (this time a big push from Apple, from what I understand) has won out. And Mozilla won't use H264. Also add into the mix that Google has just bought VP8 and open sourced it. Mozilla supports VP8 but Apple is already dissing it: http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/blog/2010/may/20/apple-steve-jobs-vp8-patent So I think we have a very long way to go before we can stop using flash for web based video. Entirely my point. (According to wikipedia Theora is a fork of VP3 which the developer On2 released some time ago. VP6 made into macromedia flash codec. So On2's codecs have a long history of video on the web.) That would seem to be supported by the Theora website[0]. won't support it. But that's all irregardless to the OPs question of bugginess on FreeBSD. If the Linux emulation isn't enough and there is no option but to switch to an entirely different platform, why even provide such an option? Linux emulation takes up a lot of resources (space wise on the drive). Flash video works absolutely fine here and there is a lot of great content and interesting and entertaining material out there. I'm really grateful to the FreeBSD developers for getting it working so well :) FreeBSD muji2.config 8.0-RELEASE-p2 FreeBSD 8.0-RELEASE-p2 #0: Wed Mar 24 11:51:43 GMT 2010 r...@muji2.config:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC i386 firefox-3.5.8,1 linux-f10-flashplugin-10.0r42 flashblock 1.5.13 # This may be a critical feature of a successful flash intallation. Aside from npviewer not killing itself on exit and some sync issues, I've not had any problems, either. The need for Linux emulation, though, still stinks (mostly from a disk space pov). [0]: http://www.theora.org/faq/#VP3 -- Yours in Christ, PIT All original content (C) under the OWL http://owl.apotheon.org Emails are not formal business letters, whatever businesses may want. Please do not CC me. If I'm posting to a list it is because I am subscribed. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: concerning flash under freebsd
On Wed, 16 Jun 2010 00:32:21 +0200 Samuel Martín Moro faus...@gmail.com articulated: Their last Linux release only exists for x86. Two ArchLinux mailinglists are advising users about uninstalling Flash from our systems. Flash is hardly working on BSD. And often bug on Linux. I spent one month, for my work, trying to correct a few of those crashes (we provide FreeBSD servers, our administrative intranet uses Flash sockets). Well, nspluginwrapper source is a complete mindfuck. Just wait for newer releases, and check if what you need works. For now, HTML5 is about to replace it, spreading on YoutubeCo., and we still did not knew a working version of Flash under Linux. The day Adobe would provide compatible softwares, they may speak about supporting Linux/Solaris... Until that, the cleanest way to proceed, is to setup a Windows VM... FreeBSD in general suffers from a multiple of problems when it comes to Internet usage. Flash support, as noted, sucks. JAVA doesn't even exist for the latest versions of Firefox. Getting sound to work properly and consistently with web browsers can be a nightmare in itself. PDF is not consistent between browsers and usually requires way to much effort to get installed. If the past is any indication, when HTML5 becomes a reality, something that some experts claim may not be for another 10 years, FreeBSD may not even support it for some archaic reason. Until FreeBSD can overcome these obstacles, anyone who requires access to all the available features found on web sites really needs to keep another PC handy running, in most cases anyway, Microsoft. Like it or not, their web browser, and some other browsers ported to their architecture, outperform web browsers on other OSs in total functionality. Undoubtedly, posters will be blaming everyone else for these misgivings; when in reality, to find the source of a problem one needs usually only look in a mirror. -- Jerry ✌ freebsd.u...@seibercom.net Disclaimer: off-list followups get on-list replies or get ignored. Please do not ignore the Reply-To header. __ Detroit is Cleveland without the glitter. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: concerning flash under freebsd
On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 12:11 AM, Programmer in Training p...@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us wrote: I will tell Adobe to provide a FreeBSD-native release, though it would be nice to know I won't be the only one. I'm actually going right now to do so. Good luck with that. Adobe doesn't care about FreeBSD. Never did, and probably never will. They don't even care about 64-bit Linux users... If you absolutely need Flash on FreeBSD, I'd suggest you install VirtualBox, and inside VirtualBox a Flash-supported OS, like OpenSolaris (that's what I do when I absolutely need Flash support). It's not the cleanest solution, but at least, I don't have to clutter my FreeBSD system with A LOT of Linux dependencies just to get a barely working Flash. -cpghost. -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: concerning flash under freebsd
On Wed, 16 Jun 2010 15:04:00 +0200 C. P. Ghost cpgh...@cordula.ws wrote: On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 12:11 AM, Programmer in Training p...@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us wrote: I will tell Adobe to provide a FreeBSD-native release, though it would be nice to know I won't be the only one. I'm actually going right now to do so. Good luck with that. Adobe doesn't care about FreeBSD. Never did, and probably never will. They don't even care about 64-bit Linux users... If you absolutely need Flash on FreeBSD, I'd suggest you install VirtualBox, and inside VirtualBox a Flash-supported OS, like OpenSolaris (that's what I do when I absolutely need Flash support). Windows Flash+Firefox under Wine works for me, I installed it when FreeBSD Flash was completely broken. I've never gone back because the inconvenience of occasionally having to switch browsers, is not as bad as having flash all the time. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: concerning flash under freebsd
On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 3:53 PM, RW rwmailli...@googlemail.com wrote: On Wed, 16 Jun 2010 15:04:00 +0200 C. P. Ghost cpgh...@cordula.ws wrote: On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 12:11 AM, Programmer in Training p...@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us wrote: I will tell Adobe to provide a FreeBSD-native release, though it would be nice to know I won't be the only one. I'm actually going right now to do so. Good luck with that. Adobe doesn't care about FreeBSD. Never did, and probably never will. They don't even care about 64-bit Linux users... If you absolutely need Flash on FreeBSD, I'd suggest you install VirtualBox, and inside VirtualBox a Flash-supported OS, like OpenSolaris (that's what I do when I absolutely need Flash support). Windows Flash+Firefox under Wine works for me, I installed it when FreeBSD Flash was completely broken. I've never gone back because the inconvenience of occasionally having to switch browsers, is not as bad as having flash all the time. Ah, good to know. I'm using FreeBSD/amd64, that's why I didn't think of Wine (IIRC, it's only for i386). -cpghost. -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
concerning flash under freebsd
hi there, why is flash still causing such problems under freebsd? i've been having the same issues for years nows: - browser tabs freeze completely - `ps` reports a lot of nspluginwrapper/npviewer.bin processes - nspluginwrapper/npviewer.bin coredumps i read that the cause for this is a buggy implementation of the linux futex emulation. when will this get fixed? almost everyone who uses flash under freebsd has something like this in his ~/.profile: alias killflash='pkill -9 npviewer.bin ; rm -f ~/npviewer.bin.core'; cheers. alex -- Alexander Best ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: concerning flash under freebsd
On Jun 15 2010 22:55, Alexander Best wrote: hi there, why is flash still causing such problems under freebsd? i've been having the same issues for years nows: - browser tabs freeze completely - `ps` reports a lot of nspluginwrapper/npviewer.bin processes - nspluginwrapper/npviewer.bin coredumps i read that the cause for this is a buggy implementation of the linux futex emulation. when will this get fixed? almost everyone who uses flash under freebsd has something like this in his ~/.profile: alias killflash='pkill -9 npviewer.bin ; rm -f ~/npviewer.bin.core'; cheers. alex My alias for killflash is Don't install it. Flash is buggy software on any platform. -- Sterling (Chip) Camden http://camdensoftware.com | http://chipstips.com | http://chipsquips.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: concerning flash under freebsd
Quoting Chip Camden sterl...@camdensoftware.com: snip My alias for killflash is Don't install it. Flash is buggy software on any platform. snip While that may be, try telling that to your 4 yr old nephew who likes to play those flash based games on PBS Kids. Almost all Internet video has moved to flash as well (such as all the sermons on sermons.net which my church uses). Flash is buggy, I'll give you that, but Don't install it. is not an option for a lot of people. -- Yours in Christ, PIT All original content (C) under the OWL http://owl.apotheon.org Emails are not formal business letters, whatever businesses may want. Please do not CC me. If I'm posting to a list it is because I am subscribed. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: concerning flash under freebsd
On Jun 15, 2010, at 2:49 PM, Programmer in Training wrote: [ ... ] While that may be, try telling that to your 4 yr old nephew who likes to play those flash based games on PBS Kids. Almost all Internet video has moved to flash as well (such as all the sermons on sermons.net which my church uses). Flash is buggy, I'll give you that, but Don't install it. is not an option for a lot of people. Adobe supports Windows, MacOSX, Linux, and Solaris (from http://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/otherversions ). If it is important to you that Flash works well, you should either persuade Adobe to provide a FreeBSD version, or you should switch to using one of the platforms on which Flash is supported. Regards, -- -Chuck ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: concerning flash under freebsd
Quoting Chuck Swiger cswi...@mac.com: On Jun 15, 2010, at 2:49 PM, Programmer in Training wrote: [ ... ] While that may be, try telling that to your 4 yr old nephew who likes to play those flash based games on PBS Kids. Almost all Internet video has moved to flash as well (such as all the sermons on sermons.net which my church uses). Flash is buggy, I'll give you that, but Don't install it. is not an option for a lot of people. Adobe supports Windows, MacOSX, Linux, and Solaris (from http://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/otherversions ). If it is important to you that Flash works well, you should either persuade Adobe to provide a FreeBSD version, or you should switch to using one of the platforms on which Flash is supported. Regards, -- -Chuck I had little of the problems described in the original post (aside from needing an alias for killing flash, I never actually thought of making one until now). It doesn't change the fact that Don't install it. isn't a valid option. I also take issue with the well use a supported OS schtick. I will tell Adobe to provide a FreeBSD-native release, though it would be nice to know I won't be the only one. I'm actually going right now to do so. Who's with me? -- Yours in Christ, PIT All original content (C) under the OWL http://owl.apotheon.org Emails are not formal business letters, whatever businesses may want. Please do not CC me. If I'm posting to a list it is because I am subscribed. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: concerning flash under freebsd
Their last Linux release only exists for x86. Two ArchLinux mailinglists are advising users about uninstalling Flash from our systems. Flash is hardly working on BSD. And often bug on Linux. I spent one month, for my work, trying to correct a few of those crashes (we provide FreeBSD servers, our administrative intranet uses Flash sockets). Well, nspluginwrapper source is a complete mindfuck. Just wait for newer releases, and check if what you need works. For now, HTML5 is about to replace it, spreading on YoutubeCo., and we still did not knew a working version of Flash under Linux. The day Adobe would provide compatible softwares, they may speak about supporting Linux/Solaris... Until that, the cleanest way to proceed, is to setup a Windows VM... Samuel Martín Moro CamTrace S.A.S Remember, the problem is not that people are stupid; the problem is that modems are cheap. Vince Sabio On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 12:06 AM, Chuck Swiger cswi...@mac.com wrote: On Jun 15, 2010, at 2:49 PM, Programmer in Training wrote: [ ... ] While that may be, try telling that to your 4 yr old nephew who likes to play those flash based games on PBS Kids. Almost all Internet video has moved to flash as well (such as all the sermons on sermons.net which my church uses). Flash is buggy, I'll give you that, but Don't install it. is not an option for a lot of people. Adobe supports Windows, MacOSX, Linux, and Solaris (from http://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/otherversions ). If it is important to you that Flash works well, you should either persuade Adobe to provide a FreeBSD version, or you should switch to using one of the platforms on which Flash is supported. Regards, -- -Chuck ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: concerning flash under freebsd
On Jun 15, 2010, at 3:11 PM, Programmer in Training wrote: Quoting Chuck Swiger cswi...@mac.com: Adobe supports Windows, MacOSX, Linux, and Solaris (from http://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/otherversions ). If it is important to you that Flash works well, you should either persuade Adobe to provide a FreeBSD version, or you should switch to using one of the platforms on which Flash is supported. I had little of the problems described in the original post (aside from needing an alias for killing flash, I never actually thought of making one until now). It doesn't change the fact that Don't install it. isn't a valid option. Evidently so, for some people. I also take issue with the well use a supported OS schtick. I'm not sure that last word means what you think it means. Try reading Adobe's EULA: 3.1 General Use. You may install and Use one copy of the Software on your Compatible Computer. See Section 4 for important restrictions on the Use of the Software. 3.2 Server Use. This agreement does not permit you to install or Use the Software on a computer file server. For information on Use of Software on a computer file server please refer to [ ... ] 4.1 Adobe Runtime Restrictions. You will not Use any Adobe Runtime on any non-PC device or with any embedded or device version of any operating system. For the avoidance of doubt, and by example only, you may not Use an Adobe Runtime on any (a) mobile device, set top box (STB), handheld, phone, game console, TV, DVD player, media center (other than with Windows XP Media Center Edition and its successors), electronic billboard or other digital signage, Internet appliance or other Internet-connected device, PDA, medical device, ATM, telematic device, gaming machine, home automation system, kiosk, remote control device, or any other consumer electronics device, (b) operator-based mobile, cable, satellite, or television system or (c) other closed system device. No right or license to Use any Adobe Runtime is granted for such prohibited uses. Are you running Samba or NFS filesharing? Or is your machine a mini-ITX box which might be considered an Internet-connected device rather than a normal PC? There's a reason why the FreeBSD precompiled packages can't include Flash-- the project is forbidden from redistributing it. Regards, -- -Chuck ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: concerning flash under freebsd
Quoting Chuck Swiger cswi...@mac.com: Please see last line of sig. On Jun 15, 2010, at 3:11 PM, Programmer in Training wrote: Quoting Chuck Swiger cswi...@mac.com: Adobe supports Windows, MacOSX, Linux, and Solaris (from http://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/otherversions ). If it is important to you that Flash works well, you should either persuade Adobe to provide a FreeBSD version, or you should switch to using one of the platforms on which Flash is supported. I had little of the problems described in the original post (aside from needing an alias for killing flash, I never actually thought of making one until now). It doesn't change the fact that Don't install it. isn't a valid option. Evidently so, for some people. I also take issue with the well use a supported OS schtick. I'm not sure that last word means what you think it means. Try reading Adobe's EULA: 3.1 General Use. You may install and Use one copy of the Software on your Compatible Computer. See Section 4 for important restrictions on the Use of the Software. 3.2 Server Use. This agreement does not permit you to install or Use the Software on a computer file server. For information on Use of Software on a computer file server please refer to [ ... ] 4.1 Adobe Runtime Restrictions. You will not Use any Adobe Runtime on any non-PC device or with any embedded or device version of any operating system. For the avoidance of doubt, and by example only, you may not Use an Adobe Runtime on any (a) mobile device, set top box (STB), handheld, phone, game console, TV, DVD player, media center (other than with Windows XP Media Center Edition and its successors), electronic billboard or other digital signage, Internet appliance or other Internet-connected device, PDA, medical device, ATM, telematic device, gaming machine, home automation system, kiosk, remote control device, or any other consumer electronics device, (b) operator-based mobile, cable, satellite, or television system or (c) other closed system device. No right or license to Use any Adobe Runtime is granted for such prohibited uses. Are you running Samba or NFS filesharing? Or is your machine a mini-ITX box which might be considered an Internet-connected device rather than a normal PC? There's a reason why the FreeBSD precompiled packages can't include Flash-- the project is forbidden from redistributing it. That's actually fairly restrictive (and retarded). Why does it have official Linux support, though? You can run Samaba or NFS filesharing on any of those (and hey, what about file-sharing amongst Windows computers?). Stupid Adobe. -- Yours in Christ, PIT All original content (C) under the OWL http://owl.apotheon.org Emails are not formal business letters, whatever businesses may want. Please do not CC me. If I'm posting to a list it is because I am subscribed. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: concerning flash under freebsd
On Tue 15 Jun 2010 at 15:11:47 PDT Programmer in Training wrote: Don't install it. isn't a valid option. Sure it is. The fact that it's an option you don't want to accept doesn't make it invalid. I also take issue with the well use a supported OS schtick. I will tell Adobe to provide a FreeBSD-native release, though it would be nice to know I won't be the only one. I'm actually going right now to do so. Who's with me? Actually, you're starting down a well-trodden path. Many people have already asked Adobe for a FreeBSD-native release, and Adobe has never seen fit to do so. The FreeBSD desktop market is apparently too small to make it worth their while. That's a perfectly valid position for them to take, no matter how much we might dislike it. And Use a supported OS if you want Flash isn't a schtick. It's eminently practical advice, from people who have tried but don't see any way the situation on FreeBSD is likely to change. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Flash for FreeBSD - GNOME - Firefox
On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 2:32 PM, herbert langhans herbert.raim...@gmx.net wrote: Hi Grant, here is a full description how to do that: http://freebsd.langhans.com.pl The info on swfdec on this page appears to be outdated - the swfdec homepage quotes a release on 12/21/08, and purportedly works with youtube; I'm testing it now myself... Steve ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Flash for FreeBSD - GNOME - Firefox
Grant Peel wrote: Hi all, Is there a port that emulates Adobe Flash? i.e. Adobe's download site says 'Platform not supported' is there a port or package thats can be used to view Flash content in Firefox? -Grant ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org http://bugs.adobe.com/jira/browse/FP-1060 Official bug to support it natively. Please register and vote for it. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Flash for FreeBSD - GNOME - Firefox
Hi all, Is there a port that emulates Adobe Flash? i.e. Adobe's download site says 'Platform not supported' is there a port or package thats can be used to view Flash content in Firefox? -Grant ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Flash for FreeBSD - GNOME - Firefox
Grant Peel wrote: Hi all, Is there a port that emulates Adobe Flash? i.e. Adobe's download site says 'Platform not supported' is there a port or package thats can be used to view Flash content in Firefox? -Grant ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org /usr/ports/www/linux-flashplugin9 you also need /www/nspluginwrapper then run nspluginwrapper -v -a -i ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Flash for FreeBSD - GNOME - Firefox
On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 09:25:10AM -0500, Grant Peel wrote: Hi all, Is there a port that emulates Adobe Flash? i.e. Adobe's download site says 'Platform not supported' is there a port or package thats can be used to view Flash content in Firefox? You could try graphics/gnash Roland -- R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) pgpaOX6ECvT8q.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Flash for FreeBSD - GNOME - Firefox
Hi Grant, here is a full description how to do that: http://freebsd.langhans.com.pl Cheers herbs On Wed, 14 Jan 2009 09:25:10 -0500 Grant Peel gp...@thenetnow.com wrote: Hi all, Is there a port that emulates Adobe Flash? i.e. Adobe's download site says 'Platform not supported' is there a port or package thats can be used to view Flash content in Firefox? -Grant ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org -- *** Herbert Langhans, Warschau *** Sprachtraining Langhans *** http://www.langhans.com.pl *** herbert.raim...@gmx.net *** NIP 526-229-61-51 *** Regon 014911759 *** Tel. 603 341 441 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: state of flash on FreeBSD 7?
On Sun, Mar 16, 2008 at 11:17 AM, LtCdData [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: After a long time of putting up with crashing browsers and lack of access to flash content I need, I am now using firefox / opera with flash for window$ under WINE, and the only thing I am thinking is, why did I not do this sooner... Thanks for the tip. I just installed wine-0.9.56,1 from ports and installed the win32 version for Firefox, installed Adobe Flash, and everything seems to work mostly fine on my FreeBSD 7.0 box. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: state of flash on FreeBSD 7?
On Sunday 16 March 2008 00:09, C Thala wrote: Like Javascript, with regards to Flash, what was once a nuisance has more or less become a necessity. I turned off JS on my browsers for several years and avoided most popup/web issues that people had. Nowadays, I can leave it on because Firefox plus some plugins do a good job of blocking most of the crap and because it doesn't destabilize the browser like it once used to. So what's the deal with Flash? Occasionally, I will get a link on YouTube/Google Video that looks interesting, but for the most part, I've ignored them. Over the years, I have occasionally tried the mozilla flash plugin, but that has always crashed my browser within the first 10 minutes of use. So for those of you using FreeBSD 7, what is the current state of Flash? Can it be used regularly? Is it ready for the BSD desktop? Caveats? Comments? Advice? I see flash popping on this list over and over, and as yet I have not seen a solution that fully works. Yes I tried the wrappers, gnash etc. on native firefox and opera with limited success, however as others have also noted flash is now required, and as for myself, fully working flash 9 is also. Linux firefox with the linux flash did improve the situation for me a great amount up to flash 7, but then again.. trip on to a bit of flash 9 content and it is crash again I know this might not be the solution people might want, but for me at any rate it works, and works better than all the other flash solutions I have tried. After a long time of putting up with crashing browsers and lack of access to flash content I need, I am now using firefox / opera with flash for window$ under WINE, and the only thing I am thinking is, why did I not do this sooner... LtCdData oops!! posting this again due to not having the correct addy set ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: state of flash on FreeBSD 7?
On Sunday 16 March 2008 00:09, C Thala wrote: Like Javascript, with regards to Flash, what was once a nuisance has more or less become a necessity. I turned off JS on my browsers for several years and avoided most popup/web issues that people had. Nowadays, I can leave it on because Firefox plus some plugins do a good job of blocking most of the crap and because it doesn't destabilize the browser like it once used to. So what's the deal with Flash? Occasionally, I will get a link on YouTube/Google Video that looks interesting, but for the most part, I've ignored them. Over the years, I have occasionally tried the mozilla flash plugin, but that has always crashed my browser within the first 10 minutes of use. So for those of you using FreeBSD 7, what is the current state of Flash? Can it be used regularly? Is it ready for the BSD desktop? Caveats? Comments? Advice? I see flash popping on this list over and over, and as yet I have not seen a solution that fully works. Yes I tried the wrappers, gnash etc. on native firefox and opera with limited success, however as others have also noted flash is now required, and as for myself, fully working flash 9 is also. Linux firefox with the linux flash did improve the situation for me a great amount up to flash 7, but then again.. trip on to a bit of flash 9 content and it is crash again I know this might not be the solution people might want, but for me at any rate it works, and works better than all the other flash solutions I have tried. After a long time of putting up with crashing browsers and lack of access to flash content I need, I am now using firefox / opera with flash for window$ under WINE, and the only thing I am thinking is, why did I not do this sooner... LtCdData ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: state of flash on FreeBSD 7?
On Sun, Mar 16, 2008 at 02:55:20PM +, LtCdData wrote: So what's the deal with Flash? Occasionally, I will get a link on YouTube/Google Video that looks interesting, but for the most part, I've ignored them. Over the years, I have occasionally tried the mozilla flash plugin, but that has always crashed my browser within the first 10 minutes of use. So for those of you using FreeBSD 7, what is the current state of Flash? Can it be used regularly? Is it ready for the BSD desktop? Caveats? Comments? Advice? For youtube, you can use the www/youtube-dl port to download them, and mplayer to play them. Alternatively, you can use the DownloadHelper add-on to download videos from several sites. I see flash popping on this list over and over, and as yet I have not seen a solution that fully works. Yes I tried the wrappers, gnash etc. on native firefox and opera with limited success, however as others have also noted flash is now required, and as for myself, fully working flash 9 is also. I for one am very glad to _not_ see all the annoying flash-based ads. Roland -- R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) pgp5oU1rlYYjg.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: state of flash on FreeBSD 7?
On Sun, 16 Mar 2008 17:15:34 +0100 Roland Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For youtube, you can use the www/youtube-dl port to download them, and mplayer to play them. I just want to watch them. I've friends on youtube and kids who make movies of their 3days vacation i.e. Don't want to download them first just to look at them. It's like downloading a CD to listen to a sample to find out what's it like. Urg. Alternatively, you can use the DownloadHelper add-on to download videos from several sites. The same CON. I for one am very glad to _not_ see all the annoying flash-based ads. And for me it's a handicap. It's like looking to the net through glasses that are to dark to see all. I think it's a pity fbsd people tend to ignore modern internet. Flash (or flash-like) webcontent will not go away. Not for quite a while i.m.h.o. -- Dick Hoogendijk -- PGP/GnuPG key: 01D2433D ++ http://nagual.nl/ + SunOS sxde 01/08 ++ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: state of flash on FreeBSD 7?
On Sun, 16 Mar 2008 17:15:34 +0100 Roland Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, Mar 16, 2008 at 02:55:20PM +, LtCdData wrote: So what's the deal with Flash? Occasionally, I will get a link on YouTube/Google Video that looks interesting, but for the most part, I've ignored them. Over the years, I have occasionally tried the mozilla flash plugin, but that has always crashed my browser within the first 10 minutes of use. So for those of you using FreeBSD 7, what is the current state of Flash? Can it be used regularly? Is it ready for the BSD desktop? Caveats? Comments? Advice? For youtube, you can use the www/youtube-dl port to download them, and mplayer to play them. Alternatively, you can use the DownloadHelper add-on to download videos from several sites. That kind of sucks. The idea is to simply click on a link and have it work. Adding extra software to accomplish what is already being done on other operating systems is regression not progress. I see flash popping on this list over and over, and as yet I have not seen a solution that fully works. Yes I tried the wrappers, gnash etc. on native firefox and opera with limited success, however as others have also noted flash is now required, and as for myself, fully working flash 9 is also. I for one am very glad to _not_ see all the annoying flash-based ads. The simple fact that a site or precess requires 'flash' to display correctly does not insinuate that the object is an advertisement. There are several browser based add-ons that can handle to various degrees pop-up advertisements, etc. -- Gerard [EMAIL PROTECTED] Schizophrenia beats being alone. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: state of flash on FreeBSD 7?
On Sun, Mar 16, 2008 at 06:17:22PM +0100, Dick Hoogendijk wrote: On Sun, 16 Mar 2008 17:15:34 +0100 Roland Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For youtube, you can use the www/youtube-dl port to download them, and mplayer to play them. I just want to watch them. I've friends on youtube and kids who make movies of their 3days vacation i.e. Don't want to download them first just to look at them. It's like downloading a CD to listen to a sample to find out what's it like. Urg. You could contribute to the development of gnash. The first beta (0.8.2) is just out. And for me it's a handicap. It's like looking to the net through glasses that are to dark to see all. I think it's a pity fbsd people tend to ignore modern internet. That's because it is not a FreeBSD issue. It's a ports issue. Roland -- R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) pgpJugmW9WTpA.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: state of flash on FreeBSD 7?
On 16/03/2008, Dick Hoogendijk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think it's a pity fbsd people tend to ignore modern internet. I think it's a pity that modern internet tends to ignore rfc1855, but that won't likely soon change, so put modern internet on a boat with a reliably diverse cast of likewise depthed, fully formed personas (we need mini-bios in lieu of the forward giving painfully incon- sequential details about his/her/its sexuality, helpfully providing inter-linear Kobaian anagrams) and let them eat each other down to the lone, plucky survivor: Steve Howe. -- -- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: state of flash on FreeBSD 7?
On Sun, Mar 16, 2008 at 01:37:03PM -0400, Gerard wrote: On Sun, 16 Mar 2008 17:15:34 +0100 Roland Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, Mar 16, 2008 at 02:55:20PM +, LtCdData wrote: So what's the deal with Flash? Occasionally, I will get a link on YouTube/Google Video that looks interesting, but for the most part, I've ignored them. Over the years, I have occasionally tried the mozilla flash plugin, but that has always crashed my browser within the first 10 minutes of use. So for those of you using FreeBSD 7, what is the current state of Flash? Can it be used regularly? Is it ready for the BSD desktop? Caveats? Comments? Advice? For youtube, you can use the www/youtube-dl port to download them, and mplayer to play them. Alternatively, you can use the DownloadHelper add-on to download videos from several sites. That kind of sucks. The idea is to simply click on a link and have it work. Adding extra software to accomplish what is already being done on other operating systems is regression not progress. You are welcome to contribute to the development of a flash player. Gnash has just gone to beta: http://www.gnu.org/software/gnash/ Roland -- R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) pgp7hDf3K5x7k.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: state of flash on FreeBSD 7?
I Think the real trouble here is that Adobe, does not want to make us a native FreeBSD version. I bought into the whole FreeBSD is not popular enough thing for awhile, but then I thought wait a minute. Nvidia has a FreeBSD binary Driver, surely there are more FreeBSD users that want to browse the web with flash that there is own nvidia cards. Sam Fourman Jr. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: state of flash on FreeBSD 7?
On Sun, 16 Mar 2008 19:32:06 +0200 Ion-Mihai Tetcu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Your mails are constantly marked as spam because of spamhaus' PBL http://www.spamhaus.org/pbl/query/PBL169796 Too bad for spamhaus that they can't make a difference between legitimate mail and real spam. Not my fault though. Yes I _can_ use my isp for mail, but I won't. Things are pretty well organised here. Maybe you can remove your IP from the list on the page above? I have no access to spamhaus. Spam is a bad thing but people are overreacting by blocking dynamic ip's. Lots of us are 'good' people y'know. All mail coming from one of my servers is clean. Period. -- Dick Hoogendijk -- PGP/GnuPG key: 01D2433D ++ http://nagual.nl/ + SunOS sxde 01/08 ++ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: state of flash on FreeBSD 7?
On Sun, 16 Mar 2008 19:32:06 +0200 Ion-Mihai Tetcu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maybe you can remove your IP from the list on the page above ? DONE. OK, Removal Pending The IP address has been added to the PBL Removals database. Please allow 30 minutes for servers around the world to update their data (it is possible for some servers to take a little longer, we do not control the update times of all DNSBL servers). Under normal circumstances, in approximately 30 minutes you should be able to send email directly to networks that use Spamhaus' Policy Block List anti-spam system. -- Dick Hoogendijk -- PGP/GnuPG key: 01D2433D ++ http://nagual.nl/ + SunOS sxde 01/08 ++ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: state of flash on FreeBSD 7?
Sam Fourman Jr. writes: I Think the real trouble here is that Adobe, does not want to make us a native FreeBSD version. The last time I looked into this: Adobe does not (seem to) have a problem with FreeBSD; indeed, I got the impression they barely know we exist. What they seem resistant to is publishing a complete and accurate specification that would allow third parties to write interface code. This is said to be changing with Flash 10. /If/ I remember correctly, the guts will still be proprietary but it will connect to a wrapper whose interface will publicly available. (Search keyword = ActionScript ???) Robert Huff ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: state of flash on FreeBSD 7?
On Sun, 16 Mar 2008 21:40:42 +0100 Dick Hoogendijk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 16 Mar 2008 19:32:06 +0200 Ion-Mihai Tetcu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Your mails are constantly marked as spam because of spamhaus' PBL http://www.spamhaus.org/pbl/query/PBL169796 Too bad for spamhaus that they can't make a difference between legitimate mail and real spam. Not my fault though. Yes I _can_ use my isp for mail, but I won't. Things are pretty well organised here. It's not the case here. They are only saying that your ISP says it is against its TOS to send emails from your IP or (and I agree this part is problematic) they decided it is a dynamic range, etc. Maybe you can remove your IP from the list on the page above? I have no access to spamhaus. You can remove that particular IP from that page (which you just did from reading your other email). Spam is a bad thing but people are overreacting by blocking dynamic ip's. I agree, theoretically. In practice it's the first non-spam IP I receive in the 2 weeks since I started using zen.spamhous.org (which includes pbl.) in my dspam config. Lots of us are 'good' people y'know. Yes, I know. All mail coming from one of my servers is clean. Period. I don't doubt it :) -- IOnut - Un^d^dregistered ;) FreeBSD user Intellectual Property is nowhere near as valuable as Intellect FreeBSD committer - [EMAIL PROTECTED], PGP Key ID 057E9F8B493A297B signature.asc Description: PGP signature
state of flash on FreeBSD 7?
Like Javascript, with regards to Flash, what was once a nuisance has more or less become a necessity. I turned off JS on my browsers for several years and avoided most popup/web issues that people had. Nowadays, I can leave it on because Firefox plus some plugins do a good job of blocking most of the crap and because it doesn't destabilize the browser like it once used to. So what's the deal with Flash? Occasionally, I will get a link on YouTube/Google Video that looks interesting, but for the most part, I've ignored them. Over the years, I have occasionally tried the mozilla flash plugin, but that has always crashed my browser within the first 10 minutes of use. So for those of you using FreeBSD 7, what is the current state of Flash? Can it be used regularly? Is it ready for the BSD desktop? Caveats? Comments? Advice? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: state of flash on FreeBSD 7?
On Sat, 15 Mar 2008 20:09:00 -0400 C Thala [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Like Javascript, with regards to Flash, what was once a nuisance has more or less become a necessity. I turned off JS on my browsers for several years and avoided most popup/web issues that people had. Nowadays, I can leave it on because Firefox plus some plugins do a good job of blocking most of the crap and because it doesn't destabilize the browser like it once used to. So what's the deal with Flash? Occasionally, I will get a link on YouTube/Google Video that looks interesting, but for the most part, I've ignored them. Over the years, I have occasionally tried the mozilla flash plugin, but that has always crashed my browser within the first 10 minutes of use. So for those of you using FreeBSD 7, what is the current state of Flash? Can it be used regularly? Is it ready for the BSD desktop? Caveats? Comments? Advice? So far I haven't had any major problems with linux-flash7 on my native firefox using nspluginwrapper. Sometimes I get the sound off sync but I can survive. It's the 9 that crashes and in my opinion should be removed from the ports collection. You can always try graphics/gnash which works natively with firefox. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Flash in freebsd
My note, it works well on my freebsd 6.1 firefox 1.5, 2.0. please remember to add the following line into /etc/rc.conf: linux_enable=YES FreeBSD FireFox Flash Plugin Installation Guide: a) install www/linuxpluginwrapper b) install www/linux-flashplugin7 c) cp /usr/local/share/examples/linuxpluginwrapper/libmap.conf-FreeBSD6 /etc/libmap.conf d) ln -s /usr/local/lib/npapi/linux-flashplugin/* /usr/local/lib/firefox/plugins e) use sysinstall to install the source of system programs (/usr/src/libexec) f) Execute: # cd /usr/src # fetch http://people.FreeBSD.org/~nork/rtld_dlsym_hack.diffhttp://people.freebsd.org/%7Enork/rtld_dlsym_hack.diff # patch rtld_dlsym_hack.diff # cd libexec/rtld-elf/ # make clean # make obj # make depend # make make install g) restart firefox. B.Regs, Janvier Pang. - International Domain Name for sale. http://www.中央电视台.tv/http://www.%e4%b8%ad%e5%a4%ae%e7%94%b5%e8%a7%86%e5%8f%b0.tv/(China Central Television, CCTV in China) http://www.湖南卫视.tv/ http://www.%e6%b9%96%e5%8d%97%e5%8d%ab%e8%a7%86.tv/(Hunan Satellite TV, *Super Voice Girls* (超��女��) contest presented by) On 12/27/06, RW [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 26 Dec 2006 15:29:18 -0500 Dan Sikorsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How? I've heard stories of linux-opera and linux-flashplayer7 didnt work for me do I have to mess with plug in files ? Just install the www/linux-flashplugin7 port ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Flash in freebsd
Read these instructions from Arjan van Leeuwen. It works perfectly !! Hi Henry, others, As of the latest weekly development release of Opera (see http://my.opera.com/desktopteam/blog/), it's now possible to use any Linux plugin in the native Opera for FreeBSD version, including Flash and Acrobat Reader. The feature will be included in the upcoming Opera 9.1. For now, it'll require some actions to get it to work, but if you'd like to experiment with this, this might help: 0) Make sure you have the x11/linux-xorg-libs port installed. 1) Download and extract the latest weekly release for both FreeBSD and Linux: http://snapshot.opera.com/unix/Weekly-507/intel-freebsd/opera-9.10-20061205.4-shared-qt.i386.freebsd-en-507.tar.bz2 http://snapshot.opera.com/unix/Weekly-507/intel-linux/opera-9.10-20061205.1-static-qt.i386-en-507.tar.bz2 (FreeBSD package is for FreeBSD 6.x and requires Qt installed) 2) Copy operapluginwrapper from the Linux package over to the FreeBSD package: $ cd opera-9.10-20061205.4-shared-qt.i386.freebsd-en-507 $ cp ../opera-9.10-20061205.1-static-qt.i386-en-507/plugins/operapluginwrapper plugins/ Now, if you want to run the Opera weekly directly from the package without installing (will use a fresh, empty profile, recommended): 3) Copy libnpp.so within the FreeBSD package to a new location: $ cp plugins/libnpp.so bin/libnpp.so 4) Run Opera $ ./opera If instead you want to install Opera for all users (will overwrite existing installations and use your default profile, not recommended with development releases like this): 3) Run install $ ./install.sh 4) Copy libnpp.so manually to the Opera binary directory $ cp plugins/libnpp.so /usr/local/share/opera/bin/ 5) Run Opera $ /usr/local/bin/opera The actions described here do not affect Java; you'll still be able to run Java applets with the native version of Java (such as diablo-jdk or diablo-jre). We appreciate any reports on whether this feature works as expected (or doesn't at all). On Tue, 21 Nov 2006 15:31:30 +0100, Henry Lenzi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks for you support. I have posted on the forum, on ocasion. The main issues, for me, are 1) Java (idiablo-jdk - it doesn't work, even though the path is right); I'm using it here - the path to use is /usr/local/diablo-jdk1.5.0/jre/lib/i386/. You can post on the forum if you have more problems with this. It could be that you're using a package that's compiled for a different version of FreeBSD; use the .4 package if you're on FreeBSD 6. 2) the Flash plugin. Is there a way to use the Linux emulation layer in order to get the plug-in working? See above :) 3) Cyrillic fonts look small, and you can't make them bigger. I don't know about that, but you could file a bug at http://bugs.opera.com/. Best regards, Arjan van Leeuwen -- * //| //| Mario Lobo // |// | http://www.ipad.com.br // // ||| FreeBSD since 2.2.8 - 100% Rwindows-free * ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Flash in freebsd
On Wed, 27 Dec 2006 16:18:26 +0800 Janvier Pang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My note, it works well on my freebsd 6.1 firefox 1.5, 2.0. please remember to add the following line into /etc/rc.conf: linux_enable=YES FreeBSD FireFox Flash Plugin Installation Guide: a) install www/linuxpluginwrapper b) install www/linux-flashplugin7 c) cp /usr/local/share/examples/linuxpluginwrapper/libmap.conf-FreeBSD6 /etc/libmap.conf d) ln -s /usr/local/lib/npapi/linux-flashplugin/* /usr/local/lib/firefox/plugins e) use sysinstall to install the source of system programs (/usr/src/libexec) f) Execute: # cd /usr/src # fetch http://people.FreeBSD.org/~nork/rtld_dlsym_hack.diffhttp://people.freebsd.org/%7Enork/rtld_dlsym_hack.diff # patch rtld_dlsym_hack.diff # cd libexec/rtld-elf/ # make clean # make obj # make depend # make make install g) restart firefox. This is for native browsers not linux-opera. And please don't top post. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Flash in freebsd
Hey I got linux-oper/linux-firefox, and for a minute it seemed regular firefox worked as well, then i started messing with plugns lol, but the linux-twins still work, I just have that problem everyone has... no sound, Im using OSS as my sound system. however firefox+oogle lets me download the movies right off youtube/google / anywhere so its an effective workaround, if anyone has any tips on the sound problem, I'd be very happy thank you all dan Andrew Pantyukhin wrote: On 12/26/06, Dan Sikorsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How? I've heard stories of linux-opera and linux-flashplayer7 didnt work for me do I have to mess with plug in files ? Try linux-firefox if you're desperate. linux-flashplugin7 works pretty much out of the box with it. Peruse mailing lists archives and you'll get it working with firefox, opera, linux-opera and a bunch of other browsers. Good luck! !DSPAM:45919f2c558854972718283! -- Dan Sikorsky *Systems Admin/GoldMine Admin* RegionalHelpWanted.com,Inc. Cupid.com, Inc. 845-471-5200 x220 One Civic Center Plaza, Suite 506 Poughkeepsie, NY 12601 /http://RegionalHelpWanted.com http://Cupid.com/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Flash in freebsd
On Wed, 27 Dec 2006 07:43:26 -0500 Dan Sikorsky wrote: Hey I got linux-oper/linux-firefox, and for a minute it seemed regular firefox worked as well, then i started messing with plugns lol, but the linux-twins still work, I just have that problem everyone has... no sound, Im using OSS as my sound system. Do other linux apps (ex. skype) use your sound system successfully? however firefox+oogle lets me download the movies right off youtube/google / anywhere so its an effective workaround, if anyone has any tips on the sound problem, I'd be very happy WBR -- Boris Samorodov (bsam) Research Engineer, http://www.ipt.ru Telephone Internet SP FreeBSD committer, http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Flash in freebsd
Mario Lobo wrote: Read these instructions from Arjan van Leeuwen. It works perfectly !! Hi Henry, others, As of the latest weekly development release of Opera (see http://my.opera.com/desktopteam/blog/), it's now possible to use any Linux plugin in the native Opera for FreeBSD version, including Flash and Acrobat Reader. The feature will be included in the upcoming Opera 9.1. For now, it'll require some actions to get it to work, but if you'd like to experiment with this, this might help: 0) Make sure you have the x11/linux-xorg-libs port installed. 1) Download and extract the latest weekly release for both FreeBSD and Linux: http://snapshot.opera.com/unix/Weekly-507/intel-freebsd/opera-9.10-20061205.4-shared-qt.i386.freebsd-en-507.tar.bz2 http://snapshot.opera.com/unix/Weekly-507/intel-linux/opera-9.10-20061205.1-static-qt.i386-en-507.tar.bz2 (FreeBSD package is for FreeBSD 6.x and requires Qt installed) 2) Copy operapluginwrapper from the Linux package over to the FreeBSD package: $ cd opera-9.10-20061205.4-shared-qt.i386.freebsd-en-507 $ cp ../opera-9.10-20061205.1-static-qt.i386-en-507/plugins/operapluginwrapper plugins/ Now, if you want to run the Opera weekly directly from the package without installing (will use a fresh, empty profile, recommended): 3) Copy libnpp.so within the FreeBSD package to a new location: $ cp plugins/libnpp.so bin/libnpp.so 4) Run Opera $ ./opera If instead you want to install Opera for all users (will overwrite existing installations and use your default profile, not recommended with development releases like this): 3) Run install $ ./install.sh 4) Copy libnpp.so manually to the Opera binary directory $ cp plugins/libnpp.so /usr/local/share/opera/bin/ 5) Run Opera $ /usr/local/bin/opera The actions described here do not affect Java; you'll still be able to run Java applets with the native version of Java (such as diablo-jdk or diablo-jre). We appreciate any reports on whether this feature works as expected (or doesn't at all). On Tue, 21 Nov 2006 15:31:30 +0100, Henry Lenzi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks for you support. I have posted on the forum, on ocasion. The main issues, for me, are 1) Java (idiablo-jdk - it doesn't work, even though the path is right); I'm using it here - the path to use is /usr/local/diablo-jdk1.5.0/jre/lib/i386/. You can post on the forum if you have more problems with this. It could be that you're using a package that's compiled for a different version of FreeBSD; use the .4 package if you're on FreeBSD 6. 2) the Flash plugin. Is there a way to use the Linux emulation layer in order to get the plug-in working? See above :) 3) Cyrillic fonts look small, and you can't make them bigger. I don't know about that, but you could file a bug at http://bugs.opera.com/. Best regards, Arjan van Leeuwen Actually 9.10 was released and it is supposed to have support out of the box for linux plugins. So why not try the latest release. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Flash in freebsd
How? I've heard stories of linux-opera and linux-flashplayer7 didnt work for me do I have to mess with plug in files ? -- Dan Sikorsky *Systems Admin/GoldMine Admin* RegionalHelpWanted.com,Inc. Cupid.com, Inc. 845-471-5200 x220 One Civic Center Plaza, Suite 506 Poughkeepsie, NY 12601 /http://RegionalHelpWanted.com http://Cupid.com/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Flash in freebsd
On 12/26/06, Dan Sikorsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How? I've heard stories of linux-opera and linux-flashplayer7 didnt work for me do I have to mess with plug in files ? Try linux-firefox if you're desperate. linux-flashplugin7 works pretty much out of the box with it. Peruse mailing lists archives and you'll get it working with firefox, opera, linux-opera and a bunch of other browsers. Good luck! ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Flash in freebsd
On Wed, 27 Dec 2006 01:16:09 +0300 Andrew Pantyukhin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 12/26/06, Dan Sikorsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How? I've heard stories of linux-opera and linux-flashplayer7 didnt work for me Why not? Its working perfectly here. do I have to mess with plug in files ? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Flash in freebsd
On Tue, 26 Dec 2006 15:29:18 -0500 Dan Sikorsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How? I've heard stories of linux-opera and linux-flashplayer7 didnt work for me do I have to mess with plug in files ? Just install the www/linux-flashplugin7 port ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Using Flash on FreeBSD [Fwd: Macromedia Customer Service Request [8564611]]
Hi: When trying to upgrade Flash, I ran into the following in the UPDATING file: 20060408: AFFECTS: users of www/linux-flashplugin* AUTHOR: [EMAIL PROTECTED] These ports have been removed because the End User License Agreement explicitly forbids to run the Flash Player on FreeBSD. For more details, see http://www.macromedia.com/shockwave/download/license/desktop/. So I contacted Adobe, see below, and according to the customer service rep, Astrid C. Villanueva, there is not problem with using Flash on FreeBSD, it's just not supported. Therefore, would it be possible to add it back to the ports? thanks... don -- Forwarded Message -- Subject: Macromedia Customer Service Request [8564611] Date: Wednesday 31 May 2006 13:33 From: Service [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: don hinton [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi again Don, Thank you for writing back and for the clarification provided. I understand your feedback on the compatibility of Flash Player on FreeBSD. Please note that Flash Player is not supported in FreeBSD, thus it not mentioned on the End User License Agreement that Flash Player can be downloaded and installed on the operating system. It is not that the web player is prohibited in FreeBSD, but the operating system itself is not compatible with Player. Please note that it is your option whether to install Flash Player on your FreeBSD; however, please note that we cannot provide you with any technical support, warranties or remedies for the software, although it is clearly stated on the End User License Agreement, the only authorized operating systems where you may download and install Flash Player. To view the System Requirements of Flash Player, you may go to: http://www.macromedia.com/software/flashplayer/productinfo/systemreqs/ In connection with this, if you would like to make suggestions or comments on how we can improve future versions of our software, or to report possible bugs in our current versions, please visit: http://www.macromedia.com/support/email/wishform/ Your comments, suggestions, and ideas for improvements are very important to us. We appreciate you taking the time to send us this information. I hope this additional information helps. Thank you for your patience on this matter. Should you have further concerns, feel free to write us back. Regards, Astrid C. Villanueva Customer Service Macromedia, now part of Adobe Systems Please use your incident number 8564611 in any correspondence with us. Customer Service at Macromedia, now part of Adobe Systems http://www.macromedia.com/support/service/ Note concerning Attachments: Please do not send attachments in a reply to this email. Instead, can you please contact the support agent to make arrangements to send your files. Thank you. --- -- Don Hinton don.hinton at vanderbilt.edu tel: 615.480.5667 ISIS, Vanderbilt University skype: donhinton http://people.vanderbilt.edu/~don.hinton/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Using Flash on FreeBSD [Fwd: Macromedia Customer Service Request [8564611]]
On Wed, 31 May 2006 13:35:53 -0500 Don Hinton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi: When trying to upgrade Flash, I ran into the following in the UPDATING file: 20060408: AFFECTS: users of www/linux-flashplugin* AUTHOR: [EMAIL PROTECTED] These ports have been removed because the End User License Agreement explicitly forbids to run the Flash Player on FreeBSD. For more details, see http://www.macromedia.com/shockwave/download/license/desktop/. So I contacted Adobe, see below, and according to the customer service rep, Astrid C. Villanueva, there is not problem with using Flash on FreeBSD, it's just not supported. Therefore, would it be possible to add it back to the ports? thanks... don -- Forwarded Message -- Subject: Macromedia Customer Service Request [8564611] Date: Wednesday 31 May 2006 13:33 From: Service [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: don hinton [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi again Don, Thank you for writing back and for the clarification provided. I understand your feedback on the compatibility of Flash Player on FreeBSD. Please note that Flash Player is not supported in FreeBSD, thus it not mentioned on the End User License Agreement that Flash Player can be downloaded and installed on the operating system. It is not that the web player is prohibited in FreeBSD, but the operating system itself is not compatible with Player. Please note that it is your option whether to install Flash Player on your FreeBSD; however, please note that we cannot provide you with any technical support, warranties or remedies for the software, although it is clearly stated on the End User License Agreement, the only authorized operating systems where you may download and install Flash Player. To view the System Requirements of Flash Player, you may go to: http://www.macromedia.com/software/flashplayer/productinfo/systemreqs/ In connection with this, if you would like to make suggestions or comments on how we can improve future versions of our software, or to report possible bugs in our current versions, please visit: http://www.macromedia.com/support/email/wishform/ Your comments, suggestions, and ideas for improvements are very important to us. We appreciate you taking the time to send us this information. I hope this additional information helps. Thank you for your patience on this matter. Should you have further concerns, feel free to write us back. Regards, Astrid C. Villanueva Customer Service Macromedia, now part of Adobe Systems Please use your incident number 8564611 in any correspondence with us. Customer Service at Macromedia, now part of Adobe Systems http://www.macromedia.com/support/service/ Note concerning Attachments: Please do not send attachments in a reply to this email. Instead, can you please contact the support agent to make arrangements to send your files. Thank you. --- Have you tried gnash? /usr/ports/graphics/gnash ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Using Flash on FreeBSD [Fwd: Macromedia Customer Service Request [8564611]]
On Wed, 31 May 2006 13:35:53 -0500 Don Hinton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi: When trying to upgrade Flash, I ran into the following in the UPDATING file: 20060408: AFFECTS: users of www/linux-flashplugin* AUTHOR: [EMAIL PROTECTED] These ports have been removed because the End User License Agreement explicitly forbids to run the Flash Player on FreeBSD. For more details, see http://www.macromedia.com/shockwave/download/license/desktop/. So I contacted Adobe, see below, and according to the customer service rep, Astrid C. Villanueva, there is not problem with using Flash on FreeBSD, it's just not supported. Therefore, would it be possible to add it back to the ports? Update your ports tree. -- Bill Moran Collaborative Fusion Inc. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Using Flash on FreeBSD [Fwd: Macromedia Customer Service Request [8564611]]
Hi Bill: Therefore, would it be possible to add it back to the ports? Update your ports tree. I did, but I was going by what was in /usr/ports/UPDATING. Sorry for the noise... thanks... don -- Don Hinton don.hinton at vanderbilt.edu tel: 615.480.5667 ISIS, Vanderbilt University skype: donhinton http://people.vanderbilt.edu/~don.hinton/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Using Flash on FreeBSD [Fwd: Macromedia Customer Service Request [8564611]]
It's back? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Using Flash on FreeBSD [Fwd: Macromedia Customer Service Request [8564611]]
On Wednesday 31 May 2006 13:35, Don Hinton wrote: It is not that the web player is prohibited in FreeBSD, but the operating system itself is not compatible with Player. [...] although it is clearly stated on the End User License Agreement, the only authorized operating systems where you may download and install Flash Player. Gee, I think I can see where the confusion is coming from. -- Kirk Strauser pgpOweToos70g.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: firefox and flash on freebsd
On Thu, 10 Mar 2005 10:47:20 -0500, Antoine Solomon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: how do you actually get it to work with firefox ? Hello Antoine, I have this in my /etc/libmap.conf # Flash6 with Mozilla/Firebird/Galeon/Epiphany/Konqueror [/usr/local/lib/linux-flashplugin6/libflashplayer.so] libpthread.so.0 pluginwrapper/flash6.so libdl.so.2pluginwrapper/flash6.so libz.so.1 libz.so.2 libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3 libstdc++.so.4 libm.so.6 libm.so.3 libc.so.6 pluginwrapper/flash6.so Best Regards, Antoine W. Solomon Jr. -- Pietro Piter Cerutti [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Beansidhe - SwiSS Death / Thrash Metal www.beansidhe.ch Windows: Where do you want to go today? Linux: Where do you want to go tomorrow? FreeBSD: Are you guys coming or what? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: firefox and flash on freebsd
On Tue, 8 Mar 2005 19:58:16 -0500, Antoine Solomon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here are the versions of firefox and the flash plugin firefox-1.0.1_2,1 flashplugin-firefox-0.4.12 I have the same version of Firefox, but linux-flashplugin-6.0r79_2 instead of your flashplugin-firefox-0.4.12 Just try it out and see if you get the same errors -- Antoine W. Solomon Jr. -- Pietro Piter Cerutti [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Beansidhe - SwiSS Death / Thrash Metal www.beansidhe.ch Windows: Where do you want to go today? Linux: Where do you want to go tomorrow? FreeBSD: Are you guys coming or what? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
firefox and flash on freebsd
hello all, I have a problem with the flash plugin for firefox and mozilla. everytime I goto a website that has flash on it, firefox simply crashs. Anyone else have this problem? Anyone have a solution? -- Antoine W. Solomon Jr. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: firefox and flash on freebsd
Antoine Solomon wrote: hello all, I have a problem with the flash plugin for firefox and mozilla. everytime I goto a website that has flash on it, firefox simply crashs. Anyone else have this problem? Anyone have a solution? Antoine, This has been discussed a handful of times (by myself for one)... so if the link below does not help, try the archives. I was not having trouble... just looking for instructions. Many were nice enough to offer assistance. Here is a link to the set of instructions that ultimately set me on the right road. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/getmsg.cgi?fetch=1302736+0+/usr/local/www/db/text/2005/freebsd-stable/20050306.freebsd-stable So.. the solution for you may be to install things differently then you previously did. Its my understanding that it seems to work well for many people. Some seem to have eternal troubles. I am presently experimenting with it on a test machine, and have had good results. I don't need flash... but my wife and kids do (playhousedisney.com, leapfrog.com, etc). It seems to work well on those, and most others I have found. -- Regards, Eric ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
