Re: New freebsd logo on freebsd.org

2006-05-11 Thread Jerry McAllister
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 10/05/2006 11:42:17: > > > >> hi, > >> > >> On 5/9/06, Bill Moran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> > >>> Then take this to [EMAIL PROTECTED] It's just flame bait here. > >> I don't want a chat, I want to know where I can find out how we

Re: New freebsd logo on freebsd.org

2006-05-10 Thread martinko
Bill Moran wrote: > On Wed, 10 May 2006 13:49:20 + > "Kep Woof" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > [snip] > >> Take a look at the netbsd logo if you want to see how it's done. It >> means something. It's neat. It represents the project. What we (the >> users) seem to have ended up with is a f

Re: New freebsd logo on freebsd.org

2006-05-10 Thread martinko
Ceri Davies wrote: > On 10/5/06 23:37, "martinko" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >> Ceri Davies wrote: >> >>> On 9/5/06 15:57, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> >>> At 07:01 AM 5/9/2006, you wrote: > I have to agree with the original poster. Th

Re: New freebsd logo on freebsd.org

2006-05-10 Thread martinko
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 10/05/2006 11:42:17: > >> hi, >> >> On 5/9/06, Bill Moran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >>> Then take this to [EMAIL PROTECTED] It's just flame bait here. >> I don't want a chat, I want to know where I can find out how we ended >> up with such

Re: New freebsd logo on freebsd.org

2006-05-10 Thread Ceri Davies
On 10/5/06 23:37, "martinko" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ceri Davies wrote: >> On 9/5/06 15:57, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >>> At 07:01 AM 5/9/2006, you wrote: I have to agree with the original poster. The logo is crap, and so is the font they've started to use s

Re: New freebsd logo on freebsd.org

2006-05-10 Thread martinko
Ceri Davies wrote: > On 9/5/06 15:57, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> At 07:01 AM 5/9/2006, you wrote: >>> I have to agree with the original poster. The logo is crap, and so >>> is the font they've started to use since the announcement of >>> FreeBSD6.1-RELEASE. At >> Me Too.

Re: New freebsd logo on freebsd.org

2006-05-10 Thread cpghost
On Tue, May 09, 2006 at 09:04:31PM +0100, Ceri Davies wrote: > On 9/5/06 11:56, "cpghost" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Semi-seriously, www@: how about offering people a chance to individually > > customize that logo away? It's not really THAT important, but setting > > up a transparent proxy j

Re: New freeBSD logo on freebsd.org

2006-05-10 Thread cpghost
On Wed, May 10, 2006 at 02:33:14PM -0400, Kris Kennaway wrote: >>> Not everyone reads the questions list. Heck, not even all the >>> developers do, due to the low signal/noise ratio here. >> >> Uh-oh! A mindset like this would explain a lot of things. :-( >> >> Fortunately, there *are* developer

Re: New freeBSD logo on freebsd.org

2006-05-10 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Wed, May 10, 2006 at 05:47:44PM +, cpghost wrote: > On Wed, May 10, 2006 at 05:28:55PM +0200, Erik Trulsson wrote: > > > Many professional logo design people never even knew about > > > the contest to redesign the logo because it was not posted > > > to the questions list where everyone read

Re: New freeBSD logo on freebsd.org

2006-05-10 Thread Chris Howells
cpghost wrote: Uh-oh! A mindset like this would explain a lot of things. :-( Yes, it explains that some people are too busy to read hundreds of messages on this list, and would rather do something else like coding. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org

Re: New freebsd logo on freebsd.org

2006-05-10 Thread Jeff Rollin
> > Since we're talking about logos: when will the next time window > > open for a new try? I humbly suggest using 'FreeBSD' (the text, Good idea. The word "FreeBSD" as it stood at the top of the freebsd.orgmainpage the day before the release of 6.1-RELEASE was nice. > There were tens of

Re: New freebsd logo on freebsd.org

2006-05-10 Thread Ceri Davies
On Wed, May 10, 2006 at 07:00:49PM +0100, Jeff Rollin wrote: > > > > > >> I for one do not see an need to change the logo at all. > > > >That's no reason to tell lies. > > There's no reason to accuse people of telling lies without having any > evidence, either. Statements were made which are prov

Re: New freebsd logo on freebsd.org

2006-05-10 Thread Ceri Davies
On Wed, May 10, 2006 at 05:51:10PM +, cpghost wrote: > On Wed, May 10, 2006 at 06:40:01PM +0100, Ceri Davies wrote: > > On 10/5/06 18:24, "cpghost" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > On Wed, May 10, 2006 at 02:44:03PM +, Kep Woof wrote: > > >>> This is free software man, if you don't lik

Re: New freebsd logo on freebsd.org

2006-05-10 Thread Jeff Rollin
> I for one do not see an need to change the logo at all. That's no reason to tell lies. There's no reason to accuse people of telling lies without having any evidence, either. Can't wait till you get caught out. Jeff. ___ freebsd-questions@freeb

Re: New freebsd logo on freebsd.org

2006-05-10 Thread cpghost
On Wed, May 10, 2006 at 06:40:01PM +0100, Ceri Davies wrote: > On 10/5/06 18:24, "cpghost" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Wed, May 10, 2006 at 02:44:03PM +, Kep Woof wrote: > >>> This is free software man, if you don't like it, fix it > >>> yourself. > >> > >> What is the procedure to fi

Re: New freeBSD logo on freebsd.org

2006-05-10 Thread cpghost
On Wed, May 10, 2006 at 05:28:55PM +0200, Erik Trulsson wrote: > > Many professional logo design people never even knew about > > the contest to redesign the logo because it was not posted > > to the questions list where everyone reads. > > Not everyone reads the questions list. Heck, not even al

Re: New freebsd logo on freebsd.org

2006-05-10 Thread Ceri Davies
On 10/5/06 18:24, "cpghost" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, May 10, 2006 at 02:44:03PM +, Kep Woof wrote: >>> This is free software man, if you don't like it, fix it >>> yourself. >> >> What is the procedure to fix a logo? > > use send-pr(1), of course! > > Since we're talking about lo

Re: New freeBSD logo on freebsd.org

2006-05-10 Thread Ceri Davies
On 10/5/06 16:42, "Jeff Rollin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> Does anyone else think its a logo get over it? When was the last time an >> IT admin went I installed Win 2k3 becuase it has that cool logo thing >> that I like for a screensaver? > > > I think it's a bigger problem than that. Whe

Re: New freeBSD logo on freebsd.org

2006-05-10 Thread Ceri Davies
On 10/5/06 15:25, "fbsd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Your negtave comments are foundless. > A public vote is not an logistical near-impossibility. > Hell just creating a special list to submit an email > to as your yes or not vote is a simple solution and other > solutions could be found one way

Re: New freebsd logo on freebsd.org

2006-05-10 Thread Ceri Davies
On 10/5/06 13:13, "fbsd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > As a long time reader of this list I did not see any > announcement of it here. Only after selection of the > new logo was made was it talked about on this list > People were very up set with it them and the ground > swell over this has only

Re: New freebsd logo on freebsd.org

2006-05-10 Thread cpghost
On Wed, May 10, 2006 at 02:44:03PM +, Kep Woof wrote: > >This is free software man, if you don't like it, fix it > >yourself. > > What is the procedure to fix a logo? use send-pr(1), of course! Since we're talking about logos: when will the next time window open for a new try? I humbly sugge

Re: New freebsd logo on freebsd.org

2006-05-10 Thread cpghost
On Wed, May 10, 2006 at 01:49:20PM +, Kep Woof wrote: > What are the key values of FreeBSD? I'd guess > something like Freedom, Stability, Robustness, quality. The current logo looks like a FAT bloated Beastie that swallowed up too much code... [recently compiled 4.11 and 6.1, and it shows...

Re: New freeBSD logo on freebsd.org

2006-05-10 Thread Kyrre Nygard
At 17:42 10.05.2006, Jeff Rollin wrote: Does anyone else think its a logo get over it? When was the last time an IT admin went I installed Win 2k3 becuase it has that cool logo thing that I like for a screensaver? I think it's a bigger problem than that. When was the last time Steve Ballmer r

Re: New freebsd logo on freebsd.org

2006-05-10 Thread jedrek
Hi, > However, where were the other designs? I was wondering about that myself... > Take a look at the netbsd logo if you want to see how it's done. Netbsd logo is very nice indeed. > The simple fact is, when you look at the new logo it only makes sense > if you previously understand what

Re: New freeBSD logo on freebsd.org

2006-05-10 Thread Jeff Rollin
Does anyone else think its a logo get over it? When was the last time an IT admin went I installed Win 2k3 becuase it has that cool logo thing that I like for a screensaver? I think it's a bigger problem than that. When was the last time Steve Ballmer responded to a complaint that his shiny ne

Re: New freeBSD logo on freebsd.org

2006-05-10 Thread Erik Trulsson
s group and I dont care about you. > > This is address the the users who like me are out raged by this. > > If you dont like the new logo then lets make our combined voices > make a differance by emailing the new foundation's forming members. > > > > > --

Re: New freebsd logo on freebsd.org

2006-05-10 Thread Jeff Rollin
> Take a look at the netbsd logo if you want to see how it's done. It > means something. It's neat. It represents the project. What we (the > users) seem to have ended up with is a fussy and unelegent logo that > has nothing to do with anythin, save for a pair of post-modern ice > cream cones

Re: New freebsd logo on freebsd.org

2006-05-10 Thread Kep Woof
Hi, On 5/10/06, Bill Moran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: You're exactly right. Somebody other than you should take care of this. I'm trying to understand what has happened and why. I'm trying to take care of this, and you, with your accusations and vitriol are'nt helping. I want to understand

Re: New freeBSD logo on freebsd.org

2006-05-10 Thread Richard Collyer
fbsd wrote: Thank you for making my point. This should have been announced on all lists. Just not the announcement list. Changing the logo is really a big thing. Yes. But the point of having a announce list is so that important announcements are not jumbled in with lots of "where can I downloa

RE: New freeBSD logo on freebsd.org

2006-05-10 Thread fbsd
population. See above, it was announced very publically on the freebsd-announce list. (snip) > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2006 6:48 AM > To: Kep Woof > Cc: [EMAIL

Re: New freebsd logo on freebsd.org

2006-05-10 Thread Bill Moran
On Wed, 10 May 2006 13:49:20 + "Kep Woof" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [snip] > Take a look at the netbsd logo if you want to see how it's done. It > means something. It's neat. It represents the project. What we (the > users) seem to have ended up with is a fussy and unelegent logo that >

Re: New freebsd logo on freebsd.org

2006-05-10 Thread Kep Woof
Hi, thanks for the pointer.. On 5/10/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: This happened ages ago and was announced in the news section of the website See - http://logo-contest.freebsd.org/result/ However, where were the other designs? I think a contest was potentially a good id

RE: New freebsd logo on freebsd.org

2006-05-10 Thread fbsd
and become accountable for their collective actions. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2006 6:48 AM To: Kep Woof Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: New freebsd logo on freebsd.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrot

Re: New freebsd logo on freebsd.org

2006-05-10 Thread jad
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 10/05/2006 11:42:17: > hi, > > On 5/9/06, Bill Moran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Then take this to [EMAIL PROTECTED] It's just flame bait here. > > I don't want a chat, I want to know where I can find out how we ended > up with such a terrible logo. It seems pe

Re: New freebsd logo on freebsd.org

2006-05-10 Thread Kep Woof
hi, On 5/9/06, Bill Moran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Then take this to [EMAIL PROTECTED] It's just flame bait here. I don't want a chat, I want to know where I can find out how we ended up with such a terrible logo. It seems people think it's a big joke? The new logo already looks dated, a

Re[2]: New freebsd logo on freebsd.org

2006-05-09 Thread Daniel Gerzo
Hi michael, Tuesday, May 9, 2006, 10:20:42 PM, you wrote about: > On 5/9/06, Ceri Davies <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I don't know about font overflows but I get the following > http://people.freebsd.org/~ahze/bad-new-icon.png reload your css files. > Michael -- Regards, Daniel Gerzo ___

Re: New freebsd logo on freebsd.org

2006-05-09 Thread michael johnson
On 5/9/06, michael johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 5/9/06, Ceri Davies <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 9/5/06 15:57, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > At 07:01 AM 5/9/2006, you wrote: > >> I have to agree with the original poster. The logo is crap, and so > >> is the

Re: New freebsd logo on freebsd.org

2006-05-09 Thread michael johnson
On 5/9/06, Ceri Davies <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 9/5/06 15:57, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > At 07:01 AM 5/9/2006, you wrote: >> I have to agree with the original poster. The logo is crap, and so >> is the font they've started to use since the announcement of >> FreeBSD6.

Re: New freebsd logo on freebsd.org

2006-05-09 Thread Ceri Davies
On 9/5/06 10:52, "Kep Woof" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > I guess this is the wrong list, but I just looked at freebsd.org and > saw the new logo. I really think it looks terrible. Everyone that > I've spoken to agrees. It looks like some kind of sextoy/spacehopper, > and not becomming

Re: New freebsd logo on freebsd.org

2006-05-09 Thread Ceri Davies
On 9/5/06 11:56, "cpghost" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Semi-seriously, www@: how about offering people a chance to individually > customize that logo away? It's not really THAT important, but setting > up a transparent proxy just to filter that banner out is kind of silly > waste of time. Spe

Re: New freebsd logo on freebsd.org

2006-05-09 Thread Ceri Davies
On 9/5/06 15:57, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > At 07:01 AM 5/9/2006, you wrote: >> I have to agree with the original poster. The logo is crap, and so >> is the font they've started to use since the announcement of >> FreeBSD6.1-RELEASE. At > > Me Too. At first I thought it was

Re: Fwd: New freebsd logo on freebsd.org

2006-05-09 Thread Giorgos Keramidas
On 2006-05-09 10:57, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >At 07:01 AM 5/9/2006, you wrote: >> I have to agree with the original poster. The logo is crap, >> and so is the font they've started to use since the >> announcement of FreeBSD6.1-RELEASE. At > > Me Too. At first I thought it was just a petty complai

Re: Fwd: New freebsd logo on freebsd.org

2006-05-09 Thread wc_fbsd
At 07:01 AM 5/9/2006, you wrote: I have to agree with the original poster. The logo is crap, and so is the font they've started to use since the announcement of FreeBSD6.1-RELEASE. At Me Too. At first I thought it was just a petty complaint. But if you're trying to "sell" FreeBSD to a boss o

Fwd: New freebsd logo on freebsd.org

2006-05-09 Thread Jeff Rollin
-- Forwarded message -- From: Jeff Rollin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: 09-May-2006 11:59 Subject: Re: New freebsd logo on freebsd.org To: cpghost <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I have to agree with the original poster. The logo is crap, and so is the font they've started

Re: New freebsd logo on freebsd.org

2006-05-09 Thread Bill Moran
"Kep Woof" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [snip] > Interested to hear what people think, Then take this to [EMAIL PROTECTED] It's just flame bait here. -- Bill Moran Potential Technologies http://www.potentialtech.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org m

Re: New freebsd logo on freebsd.org

2006-05-09 Thread cpghost
On Tue, May 09, 2006 at 03:37:25AM -0700, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > >I guess this is the wrong list, but I just looked at freebsd.org and > >saw the new logo. I really think it looks terrible. Everyone that > >I've spoken to agrees. It looks like some kind of sextoy/spacehopper, > > That's what

RE: New freebsd logo on freebsd.org

2006-05-09 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
>-Original Message- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Kep Woof >Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 2:52 AM >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: New freebsd logo on freebsd.org > > >Hi, > >I guess this is the wrong list, but I just looke

New freebsd logo on freebsd.org

2006-05-09 Thread Kep Woof
Hi, I guess this is the wrong list, but I just looked at freebsd.org and saw the new logo. I really think it looks terrible. Everyone that I've spoken to agrees. It looks like some kind of sextoy/spacehopper, and not becomming to the enterprise os we know and love. Maybe it was the best from