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Hi BSD - I know on my websites that more worrisome than someone caught reading my poetry as their own is that they have told something is mine that is not. I was thinking about putting the ports tar on my BSD 10 when I was actually successful. I notice that apparently the talking point xorg refresh and the touchstone kde4 artwork seem to be not on your servers. I was wondering whether even after my service that Lord Jesus has not granted me access to a specially fortified server in the basement of a Quebec Church Shrine? Since A.W.O.L bill is against that sort of thing I wonder why Lord Jesus is not working with all his might to do so. -- Steve [Blue Seahorse] ;~) Quiet Rainbows, LLC Poetry, chess, origami FUN! https://www.blueseahorsesreef.org Poetry and commentary on the war; https://www.blueleafsyndicate.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
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On 04/07/13 15:34, Lynn Steven Killingsworth wrote: Hi BSD - I know on my websites that more worrisome than someone caught reading my poetry as their own is that they have told something is mine that is not. I was thinking about putting the ports tar on my BSD 10 when I was actually successful. I notice that apparently the talking point xorg refresh and the touchstone kde4 artwork seem to be not on your servers. I was wondering whether even after my service that Lord Jesus has not granted me access to a specially fortified server in the basement of a Quebec Church Shrine? Since A.W.O.L bill is against that sort of thing I wonder why Lord Jesus is not working with all his might to do so. Is this emailing tongues? Rod ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
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On Sun, 2013-04-07 at 18:13 -0400, Rod Person wrote: On 04/07/13 15:34, Lynn Steven Killingsworth wrote: Hi BSD - I know on my websites that more worrisome than someone caught reading my poetry as their own is that they have told something is mine that is not. I was thinking about putting the ports tar on my BSD 10 when I was actually successful. I notice that apparently the talking point xorg refresh and the touchstone kde4 artwork seem to be not on your servers. I was wondering whether even after my service that Lord Jesus has not granted me access to a specially fortified server in the basement of a Quebec Church Shrine? Since A.W.O.L bill is against that sort of thing I wonder why Lord Jesus is not working with all his might to do so. Is this emailing tongues? Or simply drug abuse? Not that I read this crap myself, but it might be a help to change the faith. This perhaps is alternative hocus-pocus for those who run into issues when being on drugs http://www.churchofsatan.com/Pages/DrugAbuse.html Still a little bit on topic, since Beastie might be an acquaintance of Lord Jesus and Mephistopheles. Hail Beastie ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
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Since A.W.O.L bill is against that sort of thing I wonder why Lord Jesus is not working with all his might to do so. Is this emailing tongues? Rod Don't feed troll quiet.rainbows@gmail.com Cheers, Julian -- Julian Stacey, BSD Unix Linux C Sys Eng Consultant, Munich http://berklix.com Reply below not above, like a play script. Indent old text with . Send plain text. No quoted-printable, HTML, base64, multipart/alternative. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
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On Thu, 5 Jul 2012 22:00:11 +0300 (EEST), Ivan Ivanov wrote: Hi i want to ask a question about the new release of FreeBSD (9) is it posible to run this release /whit GUI/ in IBM Thinkpad 1161 217 whit this specs 500 mhz Intel Celeron processor 64mb Ram and 5gb HDD It is very well possible, but you need to pay attention to a few things: 1. You won't be able to build things from source on that machine. Consider using packages for installation, or a second system to build and export (via NFS) the data required. 2. You will have to choose wisely what you install. You can install the OS plus X, and then be very selective regarding the applications. Firefox for example may be a bit heavy as a web browser, but there are alternatives, such as dillo or lynx (in graphics mode). Also choose your work and multimedia applications wisely. There _are_ still programs in the ports collection that are very low on bloat, but you need to do some research to find them. 3. For using your applications within the GUI, choose a good window manager, e. g. FVWM or XFCE 3 (not 4!), or IceWM or Blackbox or olvwm or something comparable. You need to try which one fits your needs. Maybe a tiling window manager would be even better -- but I can't recommend one, because their magic didn't open up to my ignorant mind yet. :-) 4. Refering to no. 1, you should also aim to build a custom kernel on another machine that exactly fits the hardware that you have present in the Thinkpad. Streamline your kernel. Make it reflect the present hardware configuration. Maybe there are even some options and tunables to make it run better than the GENERIC kernel. The main limiting factor I see is the 64 MB RAM. If you have the chance, try to upgrade it. I know that's not easily possible. Note: I've been using FreeBSD 4 and 5 on a 150 MHz Pentium (1) with 64 MB (later on: 128 MB) RAM and 8 GB disk. This machine could compile the world (even though it needed 24 h to do that), fetch an ISO via FTP, play MP3 music via xmms, and still offer a well responding web browsing experience using Opera. NO JOKE. Mister Coffee was my first FreeBSD workstation. :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Hi i want to ask a question
1. You won't be able to build things from source on that machine. Consider using packages for installation, or a second system to build and export (via NFS) the data required. You can but... too slow 3. For using your applications within the GUI, choose a good window manager, e. g. FVWM or XFCE 3 (not 4!), or IceWM or Blackbox or olvwm or something comparable. You need to try which one fits your needs. Maybe a tiling window manager would be even better -- but I can't recommend one, because their magic didn't open up to my ignorant mind yet. :-) Actually everything should work fine with window managers you mentioned. The real problems are modern programs like firefox. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Hi i want to ask a question
On Thu, 5 Jul 2012 22:00:11 +0300 (EEST), Ivan Ivanov wrote: Hi i want to ask a question about the new release of FreeBSD (9) is it posible to run this release /whit GUI/ in IBM Thinkpad 1161 217 whit this specs 500 mhz Intel Celeron processor 64mb Ram and 5gb HDD Polytropon free...@edvax.de responded: It is very well possible, but you need to pay attention to a few things: 1. You won't be able to build things from source on that machine. Consider using packages for installation, or a second system to build and export (via NFS) the data required. 2. You will have to choose wisely what you install. You can install the OS plus X, and then be very selective regarding the applications. Firefox for example may be a bit heavy as a web browser, but there are alternatives, such as dillo or lynx (in graphics mode). Also choose your work and multimedia applications wisely. There _are_ still programs in the ports collection that are very low on bloat, but you need to do some research to find them. 3. For using your applications within the GUI, choose a good window manager, e. g. FVWM or XFCE 3 (not 4!), or IceWM or Blackbox or olvwm or something comparable. You need to try which one fits your needs. Maybe a tiling window manager would be even better -- but I can't recommend one, because their magic didn't open up to my ignorant mind yet. :-) 4. Refering to no. 1, you should also aim to build a custom kernel on another machine that exactly fits the hardware that you have present in the Thinkpad. Streamline your kernel. Make it reflect the present hardware configuration. Maybe there are even some options and tunables to make it run better than the GENERIC kernel. The main limiting factor I see is the 64 MB RAM. If you have the chance, try to upgrade it. I know that's not easily possible. Note: I've been using FreeBSD 4 and 5 on a 150 MHz Pentium (1) with 64 MB (later on: 128 MB) RAM and 8 GB disk. This machine could compile the world (even though it needed 24 h to do that), fetch an ISO via FTP, play MP3 music via xmms, and still offer a well responding web browsing experience using Opera. NO JOKE. Mister Coffee was my first FreeBSD workstation. :-) On part 1, it might be possible to build things on the old machine, but only little things. Ports tree and source tree would really pinch the hard disk space (5 GB). Would you actually boot the IBM Thinkpad by network, keep source and ports trees on a newer computer's hard drive, do the building on the newer computer, and install by NFS? I've thought of doing that, have no intention to upgrade FreeBSD 8.2 to 9.0 on old computer, where FreeBSD slice is 12 GB and I'd have to rebuild all ports , and in all likelihood bog down. On part 2, do you mean lynx or links? Lynx is text-mode but can show images on a separate screen: I did that with DR-DOS 7.03 long ago and more recently FreeDOS. Links can be built with graphics, there is even a DOS port, but a far cry from Firefox (try Midori?) which have no DOS ports. I think there is also w3m? Building the kernel is nowhere near as time-consuming as buildworld. On my older computer, building a custom kernel took about 25 minutes for NetBSD, 75 minutes for FreeBSD 8.2, and 130 minutes for Gentoo Linux, and the Gentoo Linux kernel proved nonbootable. On the last part, time required to download an ISO would depend on type of connection more than CPU speed. Tom ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Hi i want to ask a question
On Fri, 06 Jul 2012 04:05:36 -0400, Thomas Mueller wrote: On part 1, it might be possible to build things on the old machine, but only little things. It _will_ work, it just will take some time. If that isn't a major concern -- no problem. If the machine is low on RAM, there should at least be sufficient swap space. Ports tree and source tree would really pinch the hard disk space (5 GB). Using them via NFS (when needed) or as read-only source from a CD could be possible. However, I'd suggest using the NFS approach during installation time. On the described hardware, the usage paradigm should be: INSTALL ONCE, THEN KEEP USING. If updates are required, using an external compiler would be the best choice. In case you're only using precompiled packages (installs via pkg_add -r), you don't need the ports tree at all. For dealing with the system (from /usr/src), if it has to be present on disk, /usr/obj could be used via NFS on some scratch disk. There are many possibilities to get the job done. They all require some time, but it _is_ possible. On part 2, do you mean lynx or links? I think it was links that also had a GUI port. There may be other lightweight browsers (like dillo) that one could consider using. Of course none of them will utilize Flash. :-) Links can be built with graphics, there is even a DOS port, but a far cry from Firefox (try Midori?) which have no DOS ports. I think there is also w3m? I know w3m is a very nice text mode browser, I can't say if it has graphics support. Building the kernel is nowhere near as time-consuming as buildworld. True, but if you update kernel and world, both have to be processes. Otherwise, you could stay on the installed version level (e. g. 9.0) and only tweak GENERIC into something that is more efficient. But in that case, sources should not be altered. On my older computer, building a custom kernel took about 25 minutes for NetBSD, 75 minutes for FreeBSD 8.2, and 130 minutes for Gentoo Linux, and the Gentoo Linux kernel proved nonbootable. That's normal. :-) On the last part, time required to download an ISO would depend on type of connection more than CPU speed. Sure, no big CPU load. I just wanted to illustrate that this old system could do things that some modern PCs fail to do: Just imagine users complaining about skipping audio when they move windows across the screen... :-) And I still have the machine I described. Mister Coffee is currently installed with FreeBSD 8.2, expecting to be used for experimental projects as an internal file / IRC / maybe OA server. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
re. Hi i want to ask a question
Hi i want to ask a question about the new release of FreeBSD (9) is it posible to run this release /whit GUI/ in IBM Thinkpad 1161 217 whit this specs 500 mhz Intel Celeron processor 64mb Ram and 5gb HDD I've been using even slower Thinkpads (300MHz), there are a few things to be aware of. Check on http://www.thinkwiki.org if the ethernet connection is supported, also the graphic card (if you need a Windowmanager). Soundcard can be an issue too. Try to get some more RAM for it. On internet auctions you find them for a few bucks, check on the thinkwiki if the type fits in. From 256MB on it works well, good is 512. The slow processor doesnt matter much if you have enough RAM. Since the harddisk is not very large, you may want to take a look to NetBSD (sorry FreeBSD-gurus). NetBSD is targeted at minimal or exotic computers, you can easily install the precompiled packages without a portstree. I use it for all my Thinkpads (Thinkpad 600, T23 and X31). Cheers herb langhans ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
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from Ivan Ivanov hel...@abv.bg: Hi i want to ask a question about the new release of FreeBSD (9) is it posible to run this release /whit GUI/ in IBM Thinkpad 1161 217 whit this specs 500 mhz Intel Celeron processor 64mb Ram and 5gb HDD I think it would be possible, but there would not be enough RAM or disk space to rebuild the system (make buildworld) or build the bigger applications from the ports collection. You might not have enough RAM to run (Mozilla) Firefox. There are some things you could do not involving the fancy stuff: server, maybe? You could try to find something for older computers on distrowatch.com, such as Puppy Linux. Tom ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
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Hi, Reference: From: Thomas Mueller muelle...@insightbb.com Date: Thu, 05 Jul 2012 20:09:17 -0400 Message-id: 53.21.06836.dac26...@smtp02.insight.synacor.com Thomas Mueller wrote: from Ivan Ivanov hel...@abv.bg: Hi i want to ask a question about the new release of FreeBSD (9) is it posible to run this release /whit GUI/ in IBM Thinkpad 1161 217 whit this specs 500 mhz Intel Celeron processor 64mb Ram and 5gb HDD I think it would be possible, but there would not be enough RAM or disk space to rebuild the system (make buildworld) or build the bigger applications from the ports collection. You might not have enough RAM to run (Mozilla) Firefox. There are some things you could do not involving the fancy stuff: server, maybe? You could try to find something for older computers on distrowatch.com, such as Puppy Linux. Sorry, duff advice, don't need to send enquirer off to Linux IMO ;-) I guess Linux probably can't shrink smaller than BSD, (though that could be an endless thread, custom kernels striping binaries, older gcc being a Lot smaller etc) but Firefox Gcc will be approx same size on both if same version. maybe the enquirer doesnt need firefox anyway, eg the router passing this mail runs 6.4, with 40M ram doesn't need firefox, does run proxy http sendmail etc. Dont forget why Swap was invented. One doesnt Have to have tons of ram. Things might or not thrash depending on load etc. However ... 64M with X GUI sounds a stretch, but then equally for modern BSD Linux, Easier with older smaller versions of OS. (gcc thrashes building itself now on low memory machines) Cheers, Julian -- Julian Stacey, BSD Unix Linux C Sys Eng Consultants Munich http://berklix.com Reply below not above, cumulative like a play script, indent with . Format: Plain text. Not HTML, multipart/alternative, base64, quoted-printable. Mail from @yahoo dumped @berklix. http://berklix.org/yahoo/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
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from Ivan Ivanov hel...@abv.bg: Hi i want to ask a question about the new release of FreeBSD (9) is it posible to run this release /whit GUI/ in IBM Thinkpad 1161 217 whit this specs 500 mhz Intel Celeron processor 64mb Ram and 5gb HDD I think it would be possible, but there would not be enough RAM or disk space to rebuild the system (make buildworld) or build the bigger applications from the ports collection. You might not have enough RAM to run (Mozilla) Firefox. There are some things you could do not involving the fancy stuff: server, maybe? You could try to find something for older computers on distrowatch.com, such as Puppy Linux. Julian Stacey responded: Sorry, duff advice, don't need to send enquirer off to Linux IMO ;-) I guess Linux probably can't shrink smaller than BSD, (though that could be an endless thread, custom kernels striping binaries, older gcc being a Lot smaller etc) but Firefox Gcc will be approx same size on both if same version. maybe the enquirer doesnt need firefox anyway, eg the router passing this mail runs 6.4, with 40M ram doesn't need firefox, does run proxy http sendmail etc. Dont forget why Swap was invented. One doesnt Have to have tons of ram. Things might or not thrash depending on load etc. However ... 64M with X GUI sounds a stretch, but then equally for modern BSD Linux, Easier with older smaller versions of OS. (gcc thrashes building itself now on low memory machines) Building big ports, including gcc, really can bog down on an old under-resourced computer, even with 256 MB RAM and 12 GB FreeBSD slice. I speak from experience with both Linux and FreeBSD, through 8.2 on old computer. NetBSD too (5.1_STABLE). On this old computer, GNOME 3 live CDs and USB failed to boot and get to GUI: didn't work at all. When I first responded on this thread, I didn't think of FreeDOS (www.freedos.org), but then you can't run anything close to Firefox on FreeDOS or any other DOS. But FreeDOS would run with a 5 GB hard drive all in one FAT32 partition. Work has been and is being done on FreeBSD to make it feasible to install application software via binary patches, that would come in useful on low-resource computers. With 64 MB RAM, I'd look to a window manager like IceWM, or maybe JWM or Ratpoison, but certainly not KDE. An old computer with insufficient RAM for fancy browsers and multimedia can still be useful for a server or router. Tom ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
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On 08/30/2011 01:06 AM, Daniel Staal wrote: FreeBSD may not be for you at this time. I did not dare, but I agree with you for Spencer's case. -- RMA. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
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On Sun, 28 Aug 2011 14:09:30 -0700, Spencer Thompson wrote: Dear FreeBSD.org, I would like to order a CD with FreeBSD for an IBM Thinkpad. What is the best package to get? I would suggest to get the most recent RELEASE version. Currently that's 8.2. Depending on the hardware you are using, use i386 (the 32 bit system) or AMD64 (the 64 bit system); note that you can run i386 on 64 bit hardware without problems in most cases (except you need a specific 64 bit functionality). Will it work perfectly? This depends on the particular Thinkpad's hardware. See the list of supported devices. The FAQ's chapter Hardware Compatibility does have a good list: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/faq/hardware.html Also see the current release's hardware notes: http://www.freebsd.org/releases/8.2R/hardware.html In case of questions, you may ask IBM for statements about their FreeBSD support. A basic statement from my personal experience: Whatever hardware is compatible to standards, it will work without any problems. I want a package with the manual, man-pages and how to use FreeBSD perfectly in books. Please see Appendix A. Obtaining FreeBSD in the FreeBSD Handbook for information how to get FreeBSD: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/mirrors.html Also see: http://www.freebsd.org/where.html And of course: http://www.freebsdmall.com/cgi-bin/fm I think you'll also get suggestions from this list about which books are recommended; Absolute FreeBSD is a book commonly mentioned: http://www.absolutefreebsd.com/ It can be ordered from No Starch Press. Also note that you can - if you _want_ to - turn your local manpages, the Handbook and FAQ into printable PS, which means you can selectively print the sections that you need. The tools to do this are provided by the system. What does Free in FreeBSD mean? Does it mean Free as in Free of charge? Or is there an alternate meaning? Free means two things here: FreeBSD is a _free_ operating system within the open source ecosystem; it's developed by the FreeBSD team. And you can obtain it for _free_, i. e. for no charge. http://www.freebsd.org/about.html Please see the web site as an excellent resource to answer most of your questions. The main page http://www.freebsd.org/ contains references to all relevant topics like online documentation, mailing list archives, wikis and related projects. I'm wanting the best operating system for my laptop. Is this the one? This depends on what you intend your laptop to be used for. It therefore depends on the hardware you want to use, as well as on the software. Why is it free of charge when I want to pay for it? You actually _can_ pay for it, e. g. by ordering media and documentation from a vendor, or you can donate money to the project. The strength of the FreeBSD system is that even poor people can afford it as you don't need a pirated copy (which is illegal in most legislations) in order to use a professional, secure and versatile system. So if you want to pay in order to support FreeBSD, see http://www.freebsd.org/donations/ for where to direct donations at. You can see that this is another meaning of free in FreeBSD: You are free to pay for it if you want to. I don't want something stupid. Be confident: You won't get. I don't want to read the man-pages on the internet. Or the manual on the internet. Nor download anything. I don't like that. Then FreeBSD is a good choice. All documentation is available locally (man pages, Handbook, FAQ and so on). You don't need a web browser or an Internet connection to access it. Most 3rd party software available for FreeBSD shares this approach and brings good documentation. Does it come with all the applications I need for business and marketing? That's all I need. No. The FreeBSD operating system brings an operating system, nothing more or less. You will have to install the programs you need because FreeBSD is a multifunctional OS, serving on workstations, servers, combined forms and even embedded systems. How _should_ it come with business applications in such a case? Furthermore, the term business applications is very wide. What _are_ business applications - in YOUR case? Because in _my_ case, business applications may likely be something quite different from yours, and from anyone else's. If you are interested in a FreeBSD system that comes with KDE and lots of average productivity applications preinstalled and preconfigured, check PC-BSD: http://www.pcbsd.org/ See if this fits your needs. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
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On 08/29/2011 12:09 AM, Spencer Thompson wrote: Dear FreeBSD.org, Hi, I would like to order a CD with FreeBSD for an IBM Thinkpad. What is the best package to get? Will it work perfectly? Working perfectly depends on your usage. If some here tells you yes (or no), without asking for more _and_ precise details, you'll be right to have doubt. I'm wanting the best operating system for my laptop. IMHO, You'd better look for the best OS for you _usage_. Is this the one? Why is it free of charge when I want to pay for it? I don't want something stupid. Please, be serious :-). Wanting the best is very good, but if you dont share several element of your criteria, it wont be possible to help. I don't want to read the man-pages on the internet. Or the manual on the internet. Nor download anything. I don't like that. Does it come with all the applications I need for business and marketing? What's you business? What marketing tool do you need? Are you sure that is an OS level matter? Anyway, that guy feels strange weird. -- RMA. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
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On Sun, Aug 28, 2011 at 02:09:30PM -0700, Spencer Thompson wrote: You have an interesting thing to start on and a worthwhile place to begin your exploration, but you will need to do some studying. It will be necessary to explore some things on the net. The Handbook is a good place to start. There are other things besides the Handbook that provide good information. Some are pointed to on the FreeBSD web page and some you can find with a little searching. You can also buy some good books on installing, configuring and using FreeBSD. If you are unwilling to to the preparation - studying, searching and downloading, you will probably not be successful. So, if your interest is real, start now to walk the walk and not just talk the talk. FreeBSD is a very good OS, even for a laptop. You might have to verify that drivers are available for the particular peripherals on the laptop you with to use. You can purchase a CD set or DVD from which to install the latest RELEASE of FreeBSD, but after installing, you will want to upgrade to the latest security update which will happen by download over the net. You will also want to install some ports. You will really want to install the latest of those as well and that will requite downloads over the net. The update and port install utilities all take care of these things for you. Read and follow the Handbook. Unless you choose not to, the OS man pages will be installed when you do the main installation. Then when you install a port, it will install the man page for that port. So, you can read man pages locally - offline if needed. Have fun. You may think it is too hard, but in just a few days of work and play, you will discover it is worth the effort. jerry Dear FreeBSD.org, I would like to order a CD with FreeBSD for an IBM Thinkpad. What is the best package to get? Will it work perfectly? I want a package with the manual, man-pages and how to use FreeBSD perfectly in books. What does Free in FreeBSD mean? Does it mean Free as in Free of charge? Or is there an alternate meaning? I'm wanting the best operating system for my laptop. Is this the one? Why is it free of charge when I want to pay for it? I don't want something stupid. I don't want to read the man-pages on the internet. Or the manual on the internet. Nor download anything. I don't like that. Does it come with all the applications I need for business and marketing? That's all I need. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
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--As of August 28, 2011 2:09:30 PM -0700, Spencer Thompson is alleged to have said: Dear FreeBSD.org, I would like to order a CD with FreeBSD for an IBM Thinkpad. What is the best package to get? Will it work perfectly? I want a package with the manual, man-pages and how to use FreeBSD perfectly in books. First off: Is this a new machine, or an older one? IBM hasn't made Thinkpads in at least five years: They sold the business to Lenovo. (Who has kept up the quality and design.) If it's a new machine, which machine is it? Most of the current-generation Thinkpads use the integrated Sandy Bridge graphics. This is supported in -CURRENT, but not in 8.2. There is also a keyboard interaction at boot under 8.2, that has been fixed. What does Free in FreeBSD mean? Does it mean Free as in Free of charge? Or is there an alternate meaning? Free of charge, free to use, free to read the source, free to modify, free to redistribute. Most definitions of free are covered. ;) I'm wanting the best operating system for my laptop. Is this the one? Why is it free of charge when I want to pay for it? I don't want something stupid. As others have said 'best' is an opinion, and dependent on which use you are putting the laptop to. It is a very good one, for many uses. However, given that you sound like a newcomer to the UNIX/OSS software world, and that *currently* your likely hardware (if you are buying a new Thinkpad) isn't fully supported by the standard distribution, FreeBSD may not be for you at this time. If you are in that case, you'll find yourself working with untested and non-finalized software. Daniel T. Staal --- This email copyright the author. Unless otherwise noted, you are expressly allowed to retransmit, quote, or otherwise use the contents for non-commercial purposes. This copyright will expire 5 years after the author's death, or in 30 years, whichever is longer, unless such a period is in excess of local copyright law. --- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
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Dear FreeBSD.org, I would like to order a CD with FreeBSD for an IBM Thinkpad. What is the best package to get? Will it work perfectly? I want a package with the manual, man-pages and how to use FreeBSD perfectly in books. What does Free in FreeBSD mean? Does it mean Free as in Free of charge? Or is there an alternate meaning? I'm wanting the best operating system for my laptop. Is this the one? Why is it free of charge when I want to pay for it? I don't want something stupid. I don't want to read the man-pages on the internet. Or the manual on the internet. Nor download anything. I don't like that. Does it come with all the applications I need for business and marketing? That's all I need. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
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On Sun, Aug 28, 2011 at 5:09 PM, Spencer Thompson spencer.s.thomp...@gmail.com wrote: Dear FreeBSD.org, I would like to order a CD with FreeBSD for an IBM Thinkpad. What is the best package to get? Will it work perfectly? I want a package with the manual, man-pages and how to use FreeBSD perfectly in books. Download the 8.2-RELEASE dvd What does Free in FreeBSD mean? Does it mean Free as in Free of charge? Or is there an alternate meaning? It means many things including free of charge... it also means the freedom to modify, etc. I'm wanting the best operating system for my laptop. Is this the one? Why is it free of charge when I want to pay for it? I don't want something stupid. What OS is best for a particular person depends on the applications you need to run Does it come with all the applications I need for business and marketing? That's all I need. What specific applications do you have in mind? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
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On 26/07/2011 12:06, Ganesh Khedkar wrote: I am new to FreeBSD , just wanted to give one suggestion that , Ubuntu linux have given one Nice facility to user that they can easily install Ubuntu in windows and any drive we want . Even we can assign size to that drive . So cant we provide this facility to our user . So that people can experience freeBSD. Hmmm... There's nothing wrong with this idea, but I doubt it's going to be implemented in FreeBSD any time soon. (Only if someone steps up to the plate and provides patches probably.) At the moment, FreeBSD is in the throws of replacing the old sysinstall(8) with a brand-new, written from scratch installer. The focus is on getting the installer to support all of the capabilities of the OS like ZFS or gmirror, and what you propose is not a priority right now. You can already build a dual-boot system, but you'll need to know how to go beyond what the installer provides. This is a core FreeBSD concept: learning is desirable, so the OS doesn't try and hide the gory details under a glossy GUI. It's a bit off-putting to beginners, but you're only a beginner for a relatively short time, and the FreeBSD way really does pay dividends once you have some knowledge. I heartily recommend PC-BSD for any beginner that wants to get their feet wet and build a desktop BSD system -- essentially the same role that Ubuntu is aimed at -- not that it isn't good for seasoned old campaigners that just want to spin up a desktop quickly either. Cheers, Matthew -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate JID: matt...@infracaninophile.co.uk Kent, CT11 9PW signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Hi installing on windows dual boot
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Re: Hi installing on windows dual boot
On Tue, 26 Jul 2011 11:06:57 +, Ganesh Khedkar wrote: Hi all, I am new to FreeBSD , just wanted to give one suggestion that , Ubuntu linux have given one Nice facility to user that they can easily install Ubuntu in windows and any drive we want . Even we can assign size to that drive . So cant we provide this facility to our user . So that people can experience freeBSD. Currently you cannot install FreeBSD from withing Windows, if this is what you mean. FreeBSD is an operating system that needs to be booted _on_ the machine it should be installed to, as the installer requires that OS - just the same way you cannot simply try a Windows by installing it into, let's say... Solaris. :-) Hint 1: You need to install FreeBSD in order to use it. This is done by booting FreeBSD. However, you can install (i. e. use) a system image for a virtualisation software, e. g. for VMWare or VirtualPC. You can use the default installation approaches (from CD or DVD, from USB drive), or you can download a turnkey solution that provides a preinstalled and preconfigured system that you can run within Windows (using the VM solution). An example is VirtualBSD: http://www.virtualbsd.info/ Hint 2: You can use a VM solution. You can _easily_ install a dual-boot solution for FreeBSD and Windows, but you have to do that from within the FreeBSD installer, as mentioned above. You can _also_ use PC-BSD to install a normal FreeBSD, as well as the PC-BSD operating system (derived from FreeBSD). This is also simple and easy. Find more info here: http://www.pcbsd.org/ Hint 3: Dual-booting is easy. :-) During _any_ of the installation methods mentioned, you can define the target drive and the size of your installation. Typically it is a hard disk, but it doesn't have to be. More information is provided by the FreeBSD Handbook and the FAQ, which you'll find here: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/ http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/faq/ FreeBSD provides excellent documentation that helps you to do the easy task of installation. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Hi installing on windows dual boot
On Wed, July 27, 2011 7:58 am, Polytropon wrote: On Tue, 26 Jul 2011 11:06:57 +, Ganesh Khedkar wrote: Hi all, I am new to FreeBSD , just wanted to give one suggestion that , Ubuntu linux have given one Nice facility to user that they can easily install Ubuntu in windows and any drive we want . Even we can assign size to that drive . So cant we provide this facility to our user . So that people can experience freeBSD. Currently you cannot install FreeBSD from withing Windows, if this is what you mean. FreeBSD is an operating system that needs to be booted _on_ the machine it should be installed to, as the installer requires that OS - just the same way you cannot simply try a Windows by installing it into, let's say... Solaris. :-) I think the original poster was referring to the fact that Ubuntu actually has an installer that can run as a Windows application, and will resize your hard drive for you and install a dual-boot setup. It does this while you are running Windows, although it has to reboot the machine. (Which it will do automatically for you.) It's very slick, and would be an interesting addition to FreeBSD, but I don't think it's likely to be something that will get worked on soon. Ubuntu is targeted at non-technical users, especially ones not likely to have run Linux (or any other open-source OS) before. FreeBSD is largely targeted at more technical users, and at the server space instead of the desktop. So such a tool would be a high priority for Ubuntu (as it makes installing the OS much easier for a newbie), it's not the top of the list for FreeBSD. Daniel T. Staal --- This email copyright the author. Unless otherwise noted, you are expressly allowed to retransmit, quote, or otherwise use the contents for non-commercial purposes. This copyright will expire 5 years after the author's death, or in 30 years, whichever is longer, unless such a period is in excess of local copyright law. --- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Hi installing on windows dual boot
Hi all, I am new to FreeBSD , just wanted to give one suggestion that , Ubuntu linux have given one Nice facility to user that they can easily install Ubuntu in windows and any drive we want . Even we can assign size to that drive . So cant we provide this facility to our user . So that people can experience freeBSD. P.S. : If i am wrong then please let me know . Regards, Ganesh K. The contents of this eMail including the contents of attachment(s) are privileged and confidential material of Gateway NINtec Pvt. Ltd. (GNPL) and should not be disclosed to, used by or copied in any manner by anyone other than the intended addressee(s). If this eMail has been received by error, please advise the sender immediately and delete it from your system. The views expressed in this eMail message are those of the individual sender, except where the sender expressly, and with authority, states them to be the views of GNPL. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, dissemination, forwarding, printing or copying of this eMail or any action taken in reliance on this eMail is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. This eMail may contain viruses. GNPL has taken every reasonable precaution to minimize this risk, but is not liable for any damage you may sustain as a result of any virus in this eMail. You should carry out your own virus checks before opening the eMail or attachment(s). GNPL is neither liable for the proper and complete transmission of the information contained in this communication nor for any delay in its receipt. GNPL reserves the right to monitor and review the content of all messages sent to or from this eMail address and may be stored on the GNPL eMail system. In case this eMail has reached you in error, and you would no longer like to receive eMails from us, then please send an eMail to d...@gatewaynintec.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Hi installing on windows dual boot
A heads up about your footer: This email goes onto a mailing list that is available via an online archive... your terms are violated just by sending an email to this mailing list. On Jul 26, 2011, at 6:06 AM, Ganesh Khedkar wrote: Hi all, I am new to FreeBSD , just wanted to give one suggestion that , Ubuntu linux have given one Nice facility to user that they can easily install Ubuntu in windows and any drive we want . Even we can assign size to that drive . So cant we provide this facility to our user . So that people can experience freeBSD. P.S. : If i am wrong then please let me know . Regards, Ganesh K. The contents of this eMail including the contents of attachment(s) are privileged and confidential material of Gateway NINtec Pvt. Ltd. (GNPL) and should not be disclosed to, used by or copied in any manner by anyone other than the intended addressee(s). If this eMail has been received by error, please advise the sender immediately and delete it from your system. The views expressed in this eMail message are those of the individual sender, except where the sender expressly, and with authority, states them to be the views of GNPL. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, dissemination, forwarding, printing or copying of this eMail or any action taken in reliance on this eMail is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. This eMail may contain viruses. GNPL has taken every reasonable precaution to minimize this risk, but is not liable for any damage you may sustain as a result of any virus in this eMail. You should carry out your own virus checks before opening the eMail or attachment(s). GNPL is neither liable for the proper and complete transmission of the information contained in this communication nor for any delay in its receipt. GNPL reserves the right to monitor and review the content of all messages sent to or from this eMail address and may be stored on the GNPL eMail system. In case this eMail has reached you in error, and you would no longer like to receive eMails from us, then please send an eMail to d...@gatewaynintec.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Hi es_MX internationalization needed.....
Bernt: Thanks for your reply, I read it already, and ended my self reading the mklocale manuals The problem i have now is where to find a suitable es_MX.UTF-8.src file, I looked here: http://cvsup.hu.freebsd.org/viewvc/FreeBSD/src/share/mklocale/?sortby=file to no avail. Do you know or some one know here in the list where i can find a src file for es_MX.UTF-8 ? Thanks in advance. LIA Eric De La Cruz Lugo Mérida, Yucatán, México, The MayaLand. From: Bernt Hansson be...@bah.homeip.net To: Eric De La Cruz Lugo eric_delac...@yahoo.com Cc: freebsd-i...@freebsd.org; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sent: Wed, June 2, 2010 10:24:32 PM Subject: Re: Hi es_MX internationalization needed. 2010-06-03 03:37, Eric De La Cruz Lugo skrev: Hi to every one. I have been checking the mail lists and haven`t found information about es_MX localization, in Ubuntu, OpenSUSE and other Linux distributions this can be achieved by something like. # locale-gen es_MX.UTF-8 Not the freebsd way of doing it. hava a look at: http://www.se.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/l10n.html # locale-gen es_MX But on FreeBSD I can`t find any command or tool to perform this. there is a es_ES locale on FreeBSD. I thinked about generating the es_MX locale with a file like es_MX.UTF-8.src or something like that, without success this is beyond my expertise right now. I need the es_MX because there is a postgreSQL database that MUST be encoded with the es_MX encoding, for a project am working on. On KDE 4 on FreeBSD 8.0 I can changed the region to Mexico (es_MX), but I can't change my locale variables (LC_) on my command line terminal. they look actually like this: [cursos] ~ locale LANG= LC_CTYPE=es_ES.UTF-8 LC_COLLATE=es_ES.UTF-8 LC_TIME=es_ES.UTF-8 LC_NUMERIC=es_ES.UTF-8 LC_MONETARY=es_ES.UTF-8 LC_MESSAGES=es_ES.UTF-8 LC_ALL= [cursos] ~ On other server i have OpenSUSE 11.2 and have this: (the way a needed it). edelac...@sgi:~ locale LANG=es_MX.UTF-8 LC_CTYPE=es_MX.UTF-8 LC_NUMERIC=es_MX.UTF-8 LC_TIME=es_MX.UTF-8 LC_COLLATE=es_MX.UTF-8 LC_MONETARY=es_MX.UTF-8 LC_MESSAGES=es_MX.UTF-8 LC_PAPER=es_MX.UTF-8 LC_NAME=es_MX.UTF-8 LC_ADDRESS=es_MX.UTF-8 LC_TELEPHONE=es_MX.UTF-8 LC_MEASUREMENT=es_MX.UTF-8 LC_IDENTIFICATION=es_MX.UTF-8 LC_ALL= edelac...@sgi:~ How do i do this on FreeBSD 8.0 i386 or amd64? Thanks in advance for your attention and help. LIA Eric De La Cruz Lugo. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Hi es_MX internationalization needed.....
Hi to every one. I have been checking the mail lists and haven`t found information about es_MX localization, in Ubuntu, OpenSUSE and other Linux distributions this can be achieved by something like. # locale-gen es_MX.UTF-8 # locale-gen es_MX But on FreeBSD I can`t find any command or tool to perform this. there is a es_ES locale on FreeBSD. I thinked about generating the es_MX locale with a file like es_MX.UTF-8.src or something like that, without success this is beyond my expertise right now. I need the es_MX because there is a postgreSQL database that MUST be encoded with the es_MX encoding, for a project am working on. On KDE 4 on FreeBSD 8.0 I can changed the region to Mexico (es_MX), but I can't change my locale variables (LC_) on my command line terminal. they look actually like this: [cursos] ~ locale LANG= LC_CTYPE=es_ES.UTF-8 LC_COLLATE=es_ES.UTF-8 LC_TIME=es_ES.UTF-8 LC_NUMERIC=es_ES.UTF-8 LC_MONETARY=es_ES.UTF-8 LC_MESSAGES=es_ES.UTF-8 LC_ALL= [cursos] ~ On other server i have OpenSUSE 11.2 and have this: (the way a needed it). edelac...@sgi:~ locale LANG=es_MX.UTF-8 LC_CTYPE=es_MX.UTF-8 LC_NUMERIC=es_MX.UTF-8 LC_TIME=es_MX.UTF-8 LC_COLLATE=es_MX.UTF-8 LC_MONETARY=es_MX.UTF-8 LC_MESSAGES=es_MX.UTF-8 LC_PAPER=es_MX.UTF-8 LC_NAME=es_MX.UTF-8 LC_ADDRESS=es_MX.UTF-8 LC_TELEPHONE=es_MX.UTF-8 LC_MEASUREMENT=es_MX.UTF-8 LC_IDENTIFICATION=es_MX.UTF-8 LC_ALL= edelac...@sgi:~ How do i do this on FreeBSD 8.0 i386 or amd64? Thanks in advance for your attention and help. LIA Eric De La Cruz Lugo. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
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Hi - identifying cause of crash - a how to please
Hi I have a specific situation which causes a system crash on freebsd 7.2 p3 amd64 on intel quad core. Can someone teach me how to trace the cause? The crash is repeatable in the following circumstances: (a) User logs in (b) % startx (c) kde4 loads and works the session (d) user logs out x session terminates. (e) user attempts to start a new x session with: (f) % startx (g) system crashes immediately System requires rebooting to single user mode. Run fsck -y and then go multiuser. Whereupon the cycle can be repeated. This event did not occur until kde was upgraded to kde 4.3.5. The video card is a winfast PX7800GT providing openGL with dual DVI. The crash problem was not present before upgrading to 3.4.5 so whilst not ruling out the card I am not assuming it is the video card. It would be helpful if the procedure could be identified clearly. I will post the results available on the web so someone who knows how to interpret them could take a look. Finally should I be asking this question on another maillist? Photographic Artist Permanent Installations Design Creative Imagery and Advanced Digital Techniques High Dynamic Range Photography Official Portraiture Combined darkroom digital creations Systems Adminstrator for the vizion2000.net network ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Hi - identifying cause of crash - a how to please
David Southwell wrote: Hi I have a specific situation which causes a system crash on freebsd 7.2 p3 amd64 on intel quad core. Can someone teach me how to trace the cause? The crash is repeatable in the following circumstances: (a) User logs in (b) % startx (c) kde4 loads and works the session (d) user logs out x session terminates. (e) user attempts to start a new x session with: (f) % startx (g) system crashes immediately System requires rebooting to single user mode. Run fsck -y and then go multiuser. Whereupon the cycle can be repeated. This event did not occur until kde was upgraded to kde 4.3.5. The video card is a winfast PX7800GT providing openGL with dual DVI. The crash problem was not present before upgrading to 3.4.5 so whilst not ruling out the card I am not assuming it is the video card. It would be helpful if the procedure could be identified clearly. I will post the results available on the web so someone who knows how to interpret them could take a look. Finally should I be asking this question on another maillist? This is a good place to start, and if someone knows a better spot it will probably be indicated. I can't give you an in depth response, but maybe something to start with. The Kernel Debugging section of the Developer's Handbook may serve as an introduction to a few basics: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/developers-handbook/ You can also start right away by examining the .xsession-errors file you will find in the users home directory. Also, in /var/log look for the Xorg.0.log and Xorg.0.log.old. After restarting from a crash, if you startx the first one will only contain info on that startup; the second one (.old) may contain some info on what happened at the time of the previous crash, if it is indeed the X server crashing. Sometimes any errors to stdout may appear in /var/log/messages. Sometimes there may be informative error messages present which can be Googled, and other times nothing useful. The same with the .xsession-errors file - it usually contains information relevant to the applications which were running on top of X. If you are running the nvidia driver and see some evidence that it may be responsible for the crash, you could try substituting the nv driver as a test. This might help isolate the problem to the nvidia driver. But where to go from here is a good question. Sometimes if there is some problem wrt the nvidia driver after some kind of upgrade doing a make, make deinstall, and make reinstall of the nvidia driver port occasionally fixes something, but this is a long shot. Nvidia also has a web forum you might hunt around in. Also, if you are doing startx to start KDE with a .xinitrc file in the users home dir (with startkde in here), try it without so the default TWM window manager comes up instead of KDE. Then do the restart test and see if it crashes. This is a good way to separate the problem from being X related and/or KDE related. -Mike ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Hi - identifying cause of crash - a how to please
David Southwell wrote: Hi I have a specific situation which causes a system crash on freebsd 7.2 p3 amd64 on intel quad core. Can someone teach me how to trace the cause? The crash is repeatable in the following circumstances: (a) User logs in (b) % startx (c) kde4 loads and works the session (d) user logs out x session terminates. (e) user attempts to start a new x session with: (f) % startx (g) system crashes immediately System requires rebooting to single user mode. Run fsck -y and then go multiuser. Whereupon the cycle can be repeated. This event did not occur until kde was upgraded to kde 4.3.5. The video card is a winfast PX7800GT providing openGL with dual DVI. The crash problem was not present before upgrading to 3.4.5 so whilst not ruling out the card I am not assuming it is the video card. It would be helpful if the procedure could be identified clearly. I will post the results available on the web so someone who knows how to interpret them could take a look. Finally should I be asking this question on another maillist? This is a good place to start, and if someone knows a better spot it will probably be indicated. I can't give you an in depth response, but maybe something to start with. The Kernel Debugging section of the Developer's Handbook may serve as an introduction to a few basics: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/developers-handbook/ You can also start right away by examining the .xsession-errors file you will find in the users home directory. Also, in /var/log look for the Xorg.0.log and Xorg.0.log.old. After restarting from a crash, if you startx the first one will only contain info on that startup; the second one (.old) may contain some info on what happened at the time of the previous crash, if it is indeed the X server crashing. Sometimes any errors to stdout may appear in /var/log/messages. Sometimes there may be informative error messages present which can be Googled, and other times nothing useful. The same with the .xsession-errors file - it usually contains information relevant to the applications which were running on top of X. If you are running the nvidia driver and see some evidence that it may be responsible for the crash, you could try substituting the nv driver as a test. This might help isolate the problem to the nvidia driver. But where to go from here is a good question. Sometimes if there is some problem wrt the nvidia driver after some kind of upgrade doing a make, make deinstall, and make reinstall of the nvidia driver port occasionally fixes something, but this is a long shot. Nvidia also has a web forum you might hunt around in. Also, if you are doing startx to start KDE with a .xinitrc file in the users home dir (with startkde in here), try it without so the default TWM window manager comes up instead of KDE. Then do the restart test and see if it crashes. This is a good way to separate the problem from being X related and/or KDE related. -Mike Thanks mike Will give all that a go. Incidentally found no.xsession-errors in user's directory. Photographic Artist Permanent Installations Design Creative Imagery and Advanced Digital Techniques High Dynamic Range Photography Official Portraiture Combined darkroom digital creations Systems Adminstrator for the vizion2000.net network ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Hi! a question about log in dmesg
Hi, there, i am a pretty good user in linux and i don't know i am getting some strange info in my dmesg file: at_matroute: v=(16)10ff007f00 at_matroute: head=0xc42c1700 at_matroute: returnr rn=0xc45b126c at_matroute: v=(16)10ff007f00 at_matroute: head=0xc42c1700 at_matroute: returnr rn=0xc45b126c at_matroute: v=(16)10ff007f00 at_matroute: head=0xc42c1700 at_matroute: returnr rn=0xc45b126c at_matroute: v=(16)10ff007f00 at_matroute: head=0xc42c1700 at_matroute: returnr rn=0xc45b126c at_addroute: v=(16)10fffe at_addroute: n=(16)10 at_addroute: head=0xc42c1700 treenodes=0xc45b12e8 at_addroute: returns rn=0xc45b12e8 at_addroute: v=(16)10ff007f00 at_addroute: n=null at_addroute: head=0xc42c1700 treenodes=0xc45b126c at_addroute: returns rn=0xc45b126c at_delroute: v=(16)10ff00 at_delroute: n=(16)10ff80 at_delroute: head=0xc42c1700 at_delroute: returns rn=0xc45b2e88 at_delroute: v=(16)10ff80 at_delroute: n=(16)10ffc0 at_delroute: head=0xc42c1700 at_delroute: returns rn=0xc45b2e0c and calcru: runtime went backwards from 229 usec to 114 usec for pid 690 (devd) calcru: runtime went backwards from 551 usec to 468 usec for pid 376 (dhclient) calcru: runtime went backwards from 1999 usec to 999 usec for pid 360 (dhclient) calcru: runtime went backwards from 39486 usec to 19742 usec for pid 360 (dhclient) calcru: runtime went backwards from 668 usec to 334 usec for pid 146 (adjkerntz) calcru: runtime went backwards from 57078 usec to 47420 usec for pid 51 (sh) calcru: runtime went backwards from 1964549 usec to 1411651 usec for pid 51 (sh) i know there is an issue about acpi and intel chipset or something like that but i have no results about changing things in bios. I have desactivate udma and no results. the firs message about at_matroute and delroute issues i have no idea. Anyone has a clue??? greetings to everyone out there! ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Hi! a question about log in dmesg
On 11/7/09, Jesús Abidan jabi...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, there, i am a pretty good user in linux and i don't know i am getting some strange info in my dmesg file: at_matroute: v=(16)10ff007f00 at_matroute: head=0xc42c1700 at_matroute: returnr rn=0xc45b126c at_matroute: v=(16)10ff007f00 at_matroute: head=0xc42c1700 at_matroute: returnr rn=0xc45b126c at_matroute: v=(16)10ff007f00 at_matroute: head=0xc42c1700 at_matroute: returnr rn=0xc45b126c at_matroute: v=(16)10ff007f00 at_matroute: head=0xc42c1700 at_matroute: returnr rn=0xc45b126c at_addroute: v=(16)10fffe at_addroute: n=(16)10 at_addroute: head=0xc42c1700 treenodes=0xc45b12e8 at_addroute: returns rn=0xc45b12e8 at_addroute: v=(16)10ff007f00 at_addroute: n=null at_addroute: head=0xc42c1700 treenodes=0xc45b126c at_addroute: returns rn=0xc45b126c at_delroute: v=(16)10ff00 at_delroute: n=(16)10ff80 at_delroute: head=0xc42c1700 at_delroute: returns rn=0xc45b2e88 at_delroute: v=(16)10ff80 at_delroute: n=(16)10ffc0 at_delroute: head=0xc42c1700 at_delroute: returns rn=0xc45b2e0c What is your /boot/loader.conf Do you boot with any options? (such as verbose boot, as an example) and calcru: runtime went backwards from 229 usec to 114 usec for pid 690 (devd) calcru: runtime went backwards from 551 usec to 468 usec for pid 376 (dhclient) calcru: runtime went backwards from 1999 usec to 999 usec for pid 360 (dhclient) calcru: runtime went backwards from 39486 usec to 19742 usec for pid 360 (dhclient) calcru: runtime went backwards from 668 usec to 334 usec for pid 146 (adjkerntz) calcru: runtime went backwards from 57078 usec to 47420 usec for pid 51 (sh) calcru: runtime went backwards from 1964549 usec to 1411651 usec for pid 51 (sh) Symtoms like this would indicate you're running this in a virtual machine. The virtual machine's hardware clock and BSD is unable to detect, or USE that clock. So the kern.hz set at 1000 by default is screwing up the virtual machine's hardware clock. i know there is an issue about acpi and intel chipset or something like that but i have no results about changing things in bios. I have desactivate udma and no results. the firs message about at_matroute and delroute issues i have no idea. Anyone has a clue??? greetings to everyone out there! ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Hi! a question about log in dmesg
On Sat, Nov 07, 2009 at 12:27:26PM -0600, Jesús Abidan wrote: Hi, there, i am a pretty good user in linux and i don't know i am getting some strange info in my dmesg file: at_matroute: v=(16)10ff007f00 at_matroute: head=0xc42c1700 at_matroute: returnr rn=0xc45b126c at_matroute: v=(16)10ff007f00 at_matroute: head=0xc42c1700 at_matroute: returnr rn=0xc45b126c at_matroute: v=(16)10ff007f00 at_matroute: head=0xc42c1700 at_matroute: returnr rn=0xc45b126c at_matroute: v=(16)10ff007f00 at_matroute: head=0xc42c1700 at_matroute: returnr rn=0xc45b126c at_addroute: v=(16)10fffe at_addroute: n=(16)10 at_addroute: head=0xc42c1700 treenodes=0xc45b12e8 at_addroute: returns rn=0xc45b12e8 at_addroute: v=(16)10ff007f00 at_addroute: n=null at_addroute: head=0xc42c1700 treenodes=0xc45b126c at_addroute: returns rn=0xc45b126c at_delroute: v=(16)10ff00 at_delroute: n=(16)10ff80 at_delroute: head=0xc42c1700 at_delroute: returns rn=0xc45b2e88 at_delroute: v=(16)10ff80 at_delroute: n=(16)10ffc0 at_delroute: head=0xc42c1700 at_delroute: returns rn=0xc45b2e0c The above is (far too verbose) information about Appletalk routing. You presumably have the sysutils/netatalk port installed and activated. and calcru: runtime went backwards from 229 usec to 114 usec for pid 690 (devd) calcru: runtime went backwards from 551 usec to 468 usec for pid 376 (dhclient) calcru: runtime went backwards from 1999 usec to 999 usec for pid 360 (dhclient) calcru: runtime went backwards from 39486 usec to 19742 usec for pid 360 (dhclient) calcru: runtime went backwards from 668 usec to 334 usec for pid 146 (adjkerntz) calcru: runtime went backwards from 57078 usec to 47420 usec for pid 51 (sh) calcru: runtime went backwards from 1964549 usec to 1411651 usec for pid 51 (sh) i know there is an issue about acpi and intel chipset or something like that but i have no results about changing things in bios. I have desactivate udma and no results. the firs message about at_matroute and delroute issues i have no idea. Anyone has a clue??? greetings to everyone out there! ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org -- Insert your favourite quote here. Erik Trulsson ertr1...@student.uu.se ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
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instead of editors/pico, try editors/nano -- From: Giorgos Keramidas keram...@ceid.upatras.gr Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2009 5:48 PM To: Saifi Khan saifi.k...@twincling.org Cc: GrimJow Espada grimjow.esp...@gmail.com; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: hi On Sun, 22 Feb 2009 15:11:46 +, Saifi Khan saifi.k...@twincling.org wrote: Gentoo userland and emerge tools are easier and elegant though not certainly superior to FreeBSD make mechanism. This is based on my personal experience as i heavily use Gentoo Linux and FreeBSD on older hardware. And offcourse, i can easily emerge pine 4.64 on Gentoo but there is no way i can do it on FreeBSD. You can always check out `ports/mail/pine4' from a date before its removal from the ports/ tree and build it on FreeBSD too. If you need help with maintaining a local copy of the relevant ports (`mail/pine4', `mail/pine4-ssl', and `editors/pico') let me know and I'll write a short mini-guide for checking out the ports before their removal and building them as local ports. The source for these ports is no longer maintained, and they may pose a security risk if you use them on multi-user machines --- especially if untrusted users have local shell access --- but if you want to shoot your foot, the Ports tree already provides gun ammo to do that :-) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
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-- From: Kevin Kinsey k...@daleco.biz Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2009 9:24 PM I think that one of FBSD's guiding principles is *correctness* ... or, at least, that's one of the higher values of the community. By way of evidence, I present the following terms, used frequently in correspondence on these lists: What I find ironic, is that the talent drifts either to fully commercial projects, or those which are licensed under BSD - and in many cases even both. If I want an unixlike OS that does what I need with minimal fuss and where things are added due their merit in improving usability/speed/stability rather results in artificial tests the OS will be one of the BSD's. The quality of the BSD licensed software added with the quality of documentation (Cyrus might be the exception as the documentation goes...) just far exceeds anything else available for free or free. FreeBSD might not support every gadget out there, but for the most part, the supported selection has always been good enough for the use I have. For that thanks go to the core team and other coders and documentation writers as well as people testing releases and betas without just shutting up when they hit trouble, but reporting the said problems so they will hopefully get fixed for every user. -Reko ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
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On Mon, 23 Feb 2009 08:19:30 +0100 (CET), Wojciech Puchar woj...@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl wrote: mini-guide for checking out the ports before their removal and building them as local ports. The source for these ports is no longer maintained, and they may pose a security risk if you use them on multi-user machines --- especially if untrusted users have local shell access --- but if you want to shoot your foot, the Ports tree already provides gun ammo to do that :-) alpine works fine I know. That's why I am not in favor of maintaining pine4 *in* the Ports tree. If someone wants to blow their foot off, however, then it's fine with me, as long as they know what they are doing when they point the cvs update gun backwards in time :) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
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On Sun, 22 Feb 2009 18:04:48 -0800, per...@pluto.rain.com wrote: Giorgos Keramidas wrote: You can always check out ... from a date before its removal from the ports/ tree ... If you need help with maintaining a local copy of the relevant ports ... let me know and I'll write a short mini-guide for checking out the ports before their removal and building them as local ports. This sounds as if it would make a good Handbook section. Documenting such local 'hacks' in the Handbook is a bit like rubber stamping them with the official 'recommended by FreeBSD' seal of approval. I am not sure I would like that a lot. Serious security problems may exist in stale, unmaintained ports. It would be a bit bad to make it sound like the entire FreeBSD project approves and even recommends this sort of thing. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
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On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 06:01:54PM +0200, Reko Turja wrote: What I find ironic, is that the talent drifts either to fully commercial projects, or those which are licensed under BSD - and in many cases even both. What's so ironic about that? -- Chad Perrin [ content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] Quoth Marvin Minsky: . . . anyone could learn Lisp in 1 day, except that if they already knew Fortran, it would take 3 days. pgpyQI0QxzJ9r.pgp Description: PGP signature
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On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 07:15:35PM +0200, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: Documenting such local 'hacks' in the Handbook is a bit like rubber stamping them with the official 'recommended by FreeBSD' seal of approval. I am not sure I would like that a lot. Serious security problems may exist in stale, unmaintained ports. It would be a bit bad to make it sound like the entire FreeBSD project approves and even recommends this sort of thing. I can see both sides of this argument. Maybe we need to split up FreeBSD documentation into two domains, similarly to the way FreeBSD software is split into two domains (core and ports) -- and thus have a place outside the FreeBSD handbook for the same, more-than-professional quality of documentation, but covering things we wouldn't be comfortable putting in the FreeBSD Handbook itself. -- Chad Perrin [ content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] Quoth Doug Linder: A good programmer is someone who always looks both ways before crossing a one-way street. pgpCFX5OhhppR.pgp Description: PGP signature
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On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 06:11:55PM +0200, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: On Mon, 23 Feb 2009 08:19:30 +0100 (CET), Wojciech Puchar woj...@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl wrote: alpine works fine I know. That's why I am not in favor of maintaining pine4 *in* the Ports tree. If someone wants to blow their foot off, however, then it's fine with me, as long as they know what they are doing when they point the cvs update gun backwards in time :) Wait -- what? Keeping it out of the core isn't good enough . . . ? -- Chad Perrin [ content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] Quoth Larry Wall: Perl is, in intent, a cleaned up and summarized version of that wonderful semi-natural language known as 'Unix'. pgpXdCHx47VAt.pgp Description: PGP signature
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On Mon, 23 Feb 2009 12:50:41 -0700 Chad Perrin per...@apotheon.com wrote: [snip] I can see both sides of this argument. Maybe we need to split up FreeBSD documentation into two domains, similarly to the way FreeBSD software is split into two domains (core and ports) -- and thus have a place outside the FreeBSD handbook for the same, more-than-professional quality of documentation, but covering things we wouldn't be comfortable putting in the FreeBSD Handbook itself. Specifically, what is it we are uncomfortable putting in the handbook? More importantly, what good is a handbook if it is not complete? Would the documentation be cross indexed so a user could find more details on a particular subject? Personally, while perfectly plausible, it sounds like more work than it is worth. -- Jerry ges...@yahoo.com Memory fault - where am I? signature.asc Description: PGP signature
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On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 04:09:51PM -0500, Jerry wrote: On Mon, 23 Feb 2009 12:50:41 -0700 Chad Perrin per...@apotheon.com wrote: [snip] I can see both sides of this argument. Maybe we need to split up FreeBSD documentation into two domains, similarly to the way FreeBSD software is split into two domains (core and ports) -- and thus have a place outside the FreeBSD handbook for the same, more-than-professional quality of documentation, but covering things we wouldn't be comfortable putting in the FreeBSD Handbook itself. Specifically, what is it we are uncomfortable putting in the handbook? More importantly, what good is a handbook if it is not complete? Would the documentation be cross indexed so a user could find more details on a particular subject? Personally, while perfectly plausible, it sounds like more work than it is worth. Did you miss the part where Giorgos Keramidas objected to adding a context specific hack to the FreeBSD Handbook because that would give it the appearance of official sanction? -- Chad Perrin [ content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] Quoth Bjarne Stroustrup: An ugly operation should have an ugly syntactic form. pgpTe20QeWl4x.pgp Description: PGP signature
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On Mon, 23 Feb 2009 12:50:41 -0700, Chad Perrin per...@apotheon.com wrote: On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 07:15:35PM +0200, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: Documenting such local 'hacks' in the Handbook is a bit like rubber stamping them with the official 'recommended by FreeBSD' seal of approval. I am not sure I would like that a lot. Serious security problems may exist in stale, unmaintained ports. It would be a bit bad to make it sound like the entire FreeBSD project approves and even recommends this sort of thing. I can see both sides of this argument. Maybe we need to split up FreeBSD documentation into two domains, similarly to the way FreeBSD software is split into two domains (core and ports) -- and thus have a place outside the FreeBSD handbook for the same, more-than-professional quality of documentation, but covering things we wouldn't be comfortable putting in the FreeBSD Handbook itself. I think this is already done with doc = wiki stuff. I am not very good at writing wiki documentation, but I have installed a Wiki as the starting page of my laptop's lighttpd instance, in an effort to learn more about wiki writing by pushing myself to use it for personal notes. Maybe we can wikify some of the stuff that is not really Handbook-material? I can definitely try doing that :) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
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On Mon, 23 Feb 2009 16:09:51 -0500, Jerry ges...@yahoo.com wrote: Specifically, what is it we are uncomfortable putting in the handbook? More importantly, what good is a handbook if it is not complete? That's one way of looking at it. The obsessive compulsive perfectionist perspective is that a Handbook is *never* complete, because by the time you have finished writing about something in a professional, clean and amusing to read manner, it has been superseded by recent advances :-) Would the documentation be cross indexed so a user could find more details on a particular subject? Personally, while perfectly plausible, it sounds like more work than it is worth. The cross-indexing bits are what made me think about our Wiki while pondering how to write this sort of stuff. I will experiment by writing in plain text first, wikifying bits and pieces later, and see where this leads me. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
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On Mon, 23 Feb 2009 12:52:00 -0700, Chad Perrin per...@apotheon.com wrote: On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 06:11:55PM +0200, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: On Mon, 23 Feb 2009 08:19:30 +0100 (CET), Wojciech Puchar woj...@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl wrote: alpine works fine I know. That's why I am not in favor of maintaining pine4 *in* the Ports tree. If someone wants to blow their foot off, however, then it's fine with me, as long as they know what they are doing when they point the cvs update gun backwards in time :) Wait -- what? Keeping it out of the core isn't good enough . . . ? I'm sorry Chad. I lost you there. What 'core' are we talking about? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
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On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 02:25:22AM +0200, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: I think this is already done with doc = wiki stuff. I am not very good at writing wiki documentation, but I have installed a Wiki as the starting page of my laptop's lighttpd instance, in an effort to learn more about wiki writing by pushing myself to use it for personal notes. Maybe we can wikify some of the stuff that is not really Handbook-material? I can definitely try doing that :) I'd definitely support such an effort. -- Chad Perrin [ content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] Quoth Anonymous C Professor: To work on a program with the compiler in debug mode and then to sell it compiling it without the debug option is like learning to swim with floaters and then taking them off to swim across the Atlantic. pgp2ZGdWxXIUC.pgp Description: PGP signature
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On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 02:28:51AM +0200, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: On Mon, 23 Feb 2009 12:52:00 -0700, Chad Perrin per...@apotheon.com wrote: Wait -- what? Keeping it out of the core isn't good enough . . . ? I'm sorry Chad. I lost you there. What 'core' are we talking about? I'm talking about the base system, as opposed to the ports system. Sorry about the confusion, I've been reading a lot about core-vs.-library choices for a couple of different programming languages, and accidentally swapped terminology when referring to FreeBSD. -- Chad Perrin [ content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] Quoth C. Hoare: Two ways of constructing software: (1) make it so simple that there are obviously no bugs, (2) make it so complicated that there are no obvious bugs. Making it simple is far more difficult. pgp4veuL00A5R.pgp Description: PGP signature
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what will happen to FreeBSD if Gentoo/BSD is already out, does it affect freebsd popularity? i dont like gentoo or gentoo/bsd ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
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On Sun, Feb 22, 2009 at 4:54 AM, GrimJow Espada grimjow.esp...@gmail.com wrote: what will happen to FreeBSD if Gentoo/BSD is already out, does it affect freebsd popularity? i dont like gentoo or gentoo/bsd How would this affect FreeBSD? If you don't like Gentoo or Gentoo/BSD, the (very simple) solution is: don't use it. -- Glen Barber ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
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On Sun, Feb 22, 2009 at 12:54 PM, GrimJow Espada grimjow.esp...@gmail.comwrote: what will happen to FreeBSD if Gentoo/BSD is already out, does it affect freebsd popularity? i dont like gentoo or gentoo/bsd @Espada, According to you, is Gentoo/BSD the same thing as FreeBSD? And haven't you heard of PCBSD, DesktopBSD, DragonflyBSD? Just let Gentoo/BSD be and live your life:-) -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ The only time a woman really succeeds in changing a man is when he is a baby. - Natalie Wood ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
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what will happen to FreeBSD if Gentoo/BSD is already out, does it affect freebsd popularity? i dont like gentoo or gentoo/bsd so don't use it - like me. that's all :) what a problem? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
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hah! ok! On Sun, Feb 22, 2009 at 6:16 PM, Remorque odhia...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Feb 22, 2009 at 12:54 PM, GrimJow Espada grimjow.esp...@gmail.com wrote: what will happen to FreeBSD if Gentoo/BSD is already out, does it affect freebsd popularity? i dont like gentoo or gentoo/bsd @Espada, According to you, is Gentoo/BSD the same thing as FreeBSD? And haven't you heard of PCBSD, DesktopBSD, DragonflyBSD? Just let Gentoo/BSD be and live your life:-) -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ The only time a woman really succeeds in changing a man is when he is a baby. - Natalie Wood ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
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On Sun, Feb 22, 2009 at 9:54 AM, GrimJow Espada grimjow.esp...@gmail.com wrote: what will happen to FreeBSD if Gentoo/BSD is already out, does it affect freebsd popularity? i dont like gentoo or gentoo/bsd FreeBSD popularity will be affected if the big cats (ie. networking companies) continue to not contribute back the enhancements/modifications to the kernel, networking stack, optimizations etc etc ! Gentoo userland and emerge tools are easier and elegant though not certainly superior to FreeBSD make mechanism. This is based on my personal experience as i heavily use Gentoo Linux and FreeBSD on older hardware. And offcourse, i can easily emerge pine 4.64 on Gentoo but there is no way i can do it on FreeBSD. Does anybody know where FreeBSD (in particular) (NetBSD and OpenBSD) is headed ? What is the road map ? Please don't tell me that *BSD is a nice community project (which it is) and the charter is to flip burgers (i mean code) for the next networking company to take the code and run away ! i'm very hopeful that somebody will share some insight on the road map. -- thanks Saifi. -- If you don't know where you want to go, any path can take you there -- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
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FreeBSD popularity will be affected if the big cats (ie. networking companies) continue to not contribute back the this will affect their sales - FreeBSD user will simply buy network card from another manufacturer. Does anybody know where FreeBSD (in particular) (NetBSD and OpenBSD) is headed ? What is the road map ? i wish the same as is now. STABLE FAST unix-type operating environment. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
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On Sun, Feb 22, 2009 at 3:50 PM, Wojciech Puchar woj...@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl wrote: FreeBSD popularity will be affected if the big cats (ie. networking companies) continue to not contribute back the this will affect their sales - FreeBSD user will simply buy network card from another manufacturer. How a new user becomes a FreeBSD user ? by buying network cards all the time ? The existing users provide continuity not growth. To be popular FreeBSD needs growth. Growth comes from new users ! Do you see my point ? Does anybody know where FreeBSD (in particular) (NetBSD and OpenBSD) is headed ? What is the road map ? i wish the same as is now. STABLE FAST unix-type operating environment. Does anybody know where FreeBSD is headed ? -- thanks Saifi. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
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On Sun, Feb 22, 2009 at 04:07:44PM +, Saifi Khan wrote: The existing users provide continuity not growth. To be popular FreeBSD needs growth. Growth comes from new users ! It depends on the kind of new users. The aim of FreeBSD is not to be the most popular OS out there. Has never been. The main driving force is to attract good developers who like technical challenges and who love to tinker. It's nice to have a solid and large user base, but IMHO, that's not the main priority. Regards, -cpghost. -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
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Wojciech Puchar wrote: FreeBSD popularity will be affected if the big cats (ie. networking companies) continue to not contribute back the this will affect their sales - FreeBSD user will simply buy network card from another manufacturer. I think the keywords here are more 'Juniper' and 'Cisco' (both of whom have products either based on FreeBSD or incorporating quantities of FreeBSD code, and neither of whom are in the business of making network cards that I know of) rather than 'Intel' and 'Broadcom' (not that Intel has anything to be ashamed of with regard to their support of their NICs under *BSD. If anything they are the model that we would encourage other companies to emulate). In any case, why should companies be constrained to open their code as the only way of giving back to an opensource community? I agree that it would be desirable, but commercial realities are such that it's not going to happen any time soon. Companies do have other routes to 'give back' -- donations of money or equipment, sponsoring development projects or conferences, providing day-time employment for FreeBSD developers, even just publicly acknowledging that they use FreeBSD technology. None of which is required by the terms of the license, but frequently seems to happen anyhow. Cheers, Matthew -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate Kent, CT11 9PW signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
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On Sun, Feb 22, 2009 at 04:07:44PM +, Saifi Khan wrote: The existing users provide continuity not growth. To be popular FreeBSD needs growth. completely not true Growth comes from new users ! growth comes from user requirements that do make sense. no matter if it's new or old users. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
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On Sun, 22 Feb 2009 16:07:44 + Saifi Khan saifi.k...@twincling.org wrote: To be popular FreeBSD needs growth. possibly, but being popular is not necessarily a good idea. Growth comes from new users ! neither is growth. -- In friendship, prad ... with you on your journey Towards Freedom http://www.towardsfreedom.com (website) Information, Inspiration, Imagination - truly a site for soaring I's ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
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Wojciech Puchar wrote: On Sun, Feb 22, 2009 at 04:07:44PM +, Saifi Khan wrote: The existing users provide continuity not growth. To be popular FreeBSD needs growth. I think that one of FBSD's guiding principles is *correctness* ... or, at least, that's one of the higher values of the community. By way of evidence, I present the following terms, used frequently in correspondence on these lists: It Just Works(tm) The Right Way(tm) canonical P.O.L.A. And be sure and check today's .sig ;-) Kevin Kinsey -- Grandpa used to say --- What is right is not always popular, and what is popular is not always right. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
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On Sun, 22 Feb 2009 15:11:46 +, Saifi Khan saifi.k...@twincling.org wrote: Gentoo userland and emerge tools are easier and elegant though not certainly superior to FreeBSD make mechanism. This is based on my personal experience as i heavily use Gentoo Linux and FreeBSD on older hardware. And offcourse, i can easily emerge pine 4.64 on Gentoo but there is no way i can do it on FreeBSD. You can always check out `ports/mail/pine4' from a date before its removal from the ports/ tree and build it on FreeBSD too. If you need help with maintaining a local copy of the relevant ports (`mail/pine4', `mail/pine4-ssl', and `editors/pico') let me know and I'll write a short mini-guide for checking out the ports before their removal and building them as local ports. The source for these ports is no longer maintained, and they may pose a security risk if you use them on multi-user machines --- especially if untrusted users have local shell access --- but if you want to shoot your foot, the Ports tree already provides gun ammo to do that :-) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
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On Sun, Feb 22, 2009 at 05:54:37PM +0800, GrimJow Espada wrote: what will happen to FreeBSD if Gentoo/BSD is already out, does it affect freebsd popularity? i dont like gentoo or gentoo/bsd I suppose, if the Gentoo/BSD project brings the stability of Gentoo to the name BSD, we might expect FreeBSD's reputation to be unfairly tarnished by association. On the other hand, just as Firefox has proven to be sort of a gateway drug for people on MS Windows who are encouraged to try something new (and open source) for an OS as well, I suppose Gentoo/BSD might bring more intelligent people who have something valuable to contribute to the world of FreeBSD, with only a brief stop in the land of Gentoo/BSD. I guess time will tell. -- Chad Perrin [ content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] Quoth Paul Graham: Real ugliness is not harsh-looking syntax, but having to build programs out of the wrong concepts. pgp1I8habii0e.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: hi
You can always check out ... from a date before its removal from the ports/ tree ... If you need help with maintaining a local copy of the relevant ports ... let me know and I'll write a short mini-guide for checking out the ports before their removal and building them as local ports. This sounds as if it would make a good Handbook section. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
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On Sun, Feb 22, 2009 at 4:24 PM, cpghost cpgh...@cordula.ws wrote: On Sun, Feb 22, 2009 at 04:07:44PM +, Saifi Khan wrote: The existing users provide continuity not growth. To be popular FreeBSD needs growth. Growth comes from new users ! The main driving force is to attract good developers who like technical challenges and who love to tinker. How is this different from Linux kernel ? -- thanks Saifi. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
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On Sun, Feb 22, 2009 at 7:24 PM, Kevin Kinsey k...@daleco.biz wrote: Wojciech Puchar wrote: On Sun, Feb 22, 2009 at 04:07:44PM +, Saifi Khan wrote: The existing users provide continuity not growth. To be popular FreeBSD needs growth. I think that one of FBSD's guiding principles is *correctness* ... or, at least, that's one of the higher values of the community. Higher value ? sounds to me like an overdraft limit ! It still doesn't explain, (as suggested by Wojciech) why the new user must keep buying new network interface cards just to make FreeBSD run (when most of those cards will work fine with Linux). By way of evidence, I present the following terms, used frequently in correspondence on these lists: It Just Works(tm) The Right Way(tm) canonical P.O.L.A. And be sure and check today's .sig ;-) Kevin Kinsey -- Grandpa used to say --- What is right is not always popular, and what is popular is not always right. You're right, Grandpa used to run the guzzler Buick which IS neither popular nor right ! -- thanks Saifi. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
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Hi Wojciech: You haven't still explained, (as suggested by your kindself ) why the new user must keep buying new network interface cards just to make FreeBSD run (when most of those cards will work fine with Linux). -- thanks Saifi. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
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You haven't still explained, (as suggested by your kindself ) why the new user must keep buying new network interface cards just to make FreeBSD run (when most of those cards will work fine with Linux). because his existing is not supported by FreeBSD - because it's manufacturer don't want it. That's simple. FreeBSD runs very well on old computer you can buy for 50$ and are usually well supported - good for a new user. He then will buy new powerful machine with right hardware if he/she really need it. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
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mini-guide for checking out the ports before their removal and building them as local ports. The source for these ports is no longer maintained, and they may pose a security risk if you use them on multi-user machines --- especially if untrusted users have local shell access --- but if you want to shoot your foot, the Ports tree already provides gun ammo to do that :-) alpine works fine ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Hi
Hi all While using ipfilter i got an issue i have done is ioctl the result is sucess In that i wrote a rule to deny connection from x.x.x.x ioctl(fd, SIOCADDFR, struct frentry **) I gone to route prompt and saw the statistics ipfstat -i i correctly shows my rule. But he is not executing it. Anyone know about this.. please let me know.. On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 4:37 PM, Sebastian Tymków sebastian.tym...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, If you don't want to do this using server features you should do it in your program (like in config file). Best regards, Shamrock 2008/12/10 pugal pugal pugalanand@gmail.com Hi all I will explain the scenario clearly. I have a server program say server.c listening on some XXX port-number.I accepts all the client. Now i want to DENY only the particular client say x.x.x.x/16 . I want to deny that Client by not using hosts.deny. For this scenario what can i do?? If anyone knows Let me explain clearly. Since i am very new to this.please explain clearly. On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 3:43 PM, Odhiambo Washington odhia...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 12:44 PM, pugal pugal pugalanand@gmail.com wrote: Hi all Did anyone knows how to deny the TCP connection Without using hosts.deny and ipfilter. Let the service listen on 127.0.0.1 or just don't start it:-) -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ Okay guys. This is Kenya. You pay taxes because you feel philanthropic, unlike our MPs! -- Kenneth Marende, Speaker, 10th Parilament. -- Thanks With Regards Pugal ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org -- Thanks With Regards Pugal ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
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Hi all Did anyone knows how to deny the TCP connection Without using hosts.deny and ipfilter. using ipfw for example ;) Thanks With Regards Pugal ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 12:44 PM, pugal pugal [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Hi all Did anyone knows how to deny the TCP connection Without using hosts.deny and ipfilter. Let the service listen on 127.0.0.1 or just don't start it:-) -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ Okay guys. This is Kenya. You pay taxes because you feel philanthropic, unlike our MPs! -- Kenneth Marende, Speaker, 10th Parilament. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Hi all I will explain the scenario clearly. I have a server program say server.c listening on some XXX port-number.I accepts all the client. Now i want to DENY only the particular client say x.x.x.x/16 . I want to deny that Client by not using hosts.deny. For this scenario what can i do?? If anyone knows Let me explain clearly. Since i am very new to this.please explain clearly. On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 3:43 PM, Odhiambo Washington [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 12:44 PM, pugal pugal [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Hi all Did anyone knows how to deny the TCP connection Without using hosts.deny and ipfilter. Let the service listen on 127.0.0.1 or just don't start it:-) -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ Okay guys. This is Kenya. You pay taxes because you feel philanthropic, unlike our MPs! -- Kenneth Marende, Speaker, 10th Parilament. -- Thanks With Regards Pugal ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Hello, If you don't want to do this using server features you should do it in your program (like in config file). Best regards, Shamrock 2008/12/10 pugal pugal [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi all I will explain the scenario clearly. I have a server program say server.c listening on some XXX port-number.I accepts all the client. Now i want to DENY only the particular client say x.x.x.x/16 . I want to deny that Client by not using hosts.deny. For this scenario what can i do?? If anyone knows Let me explain clearly. Since i am very new to this.please explain clearly. On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 3:43 PM, Odhiambo Washington [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 12:44 PM, pugal pugal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all Did anyone knows how to deny the TCP connection Without using hosts.deny and ipfilter. Let the service listen on 127.0.0.1 or just don't start it:-) -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ Okay guys. This is Kenya. You pay taxes because you feel philanthropic, unlike our MPs! -- Kenneth Marende, Speaker, 10th Parilament. -- Thanks With Regards Pugal ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Wednesday 10 December 2008 08:07:39 Sebastian Tymków wrote: Hello, If you don't want to do this using server features you should do it in your program (like in config file). Best regards, Shamrock 2008/12/10 pugal pugal [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi all I will explain the scenario clearly. I have a server program say server.c listening on some XXX port-number.I accepts all the client. Now i want to DENY only the particular client say x.x.x.x/16 . I want to deny that Client by not using hosts.deny. For this scenario what can i do?? If anyone knows Let me explain clearly. Since i am very new to this.please explain clearly. On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 3:43 PM, Odhiambo Washington [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 12:44 PM, pugal pugal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all Did anyone knows how to deny the TCP connection Without using hosts.deny and ipfilter. Let the service listen on 127.0.0.1 or just don't start it:-) -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ Okay guys. This is Kenya. You pay taxes because you feel philanthropic, unlike our MPs! -- Kenneth Marende, Speaker, 10th Parilament. -- Thanks With Regards Pugal ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] It seems you wrote the code, so you have the power. Just check the client's IP after accept()ing the connection. Then fork(), close(), etc... -- Mario Lobo http://www.mallavoodoo.com.br FreeBSD since version 2.2.8 [not Pro-Audio YET!!] (99,7% winedows FREE) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi
Hi, I have just purchased a new Dell Server, to run with Plesk. I have just moved from an Apple XServe and seeing that OS X derived from FreeBSD, I felt that it was the best choice to start with. My only dilemma is, I am wanting to run the system in 64-bit, with using the Intel Quad 2.5Ghz Xeon, but I am unsure as to which version I should be downloading. For plesk, I need to use version 6.1 and had read somewhere that I would use the AMD 64-bit version, can you confirm if this is correct for an Intel processor? Many Thanks Justin Archer ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Fri, 6 Jun 2008, Justin Archer wrote: Hi, I have just purchased a new Dell Server, to run with Plesk. I have just moved from an Apple XServe and seeing that OS X derived from FreeBSD, I felt that it was the best choice to start with. My only dilemma is, I am wanting to run the system in 64-bit, with using the Intel Quad 2.5Ghz Xeon, but I am unsure as to which version I should be downloading. For plesk, I need to use version 6.1 and had read somewhere that I would use the AMD 64-bit version, can you confirm if this is correct for an Intel processor? Justin, Yes, you want amd64 if this is a modern 64-bit Intel CPU. As was pointed out recently when someone asked more or less the same question, the amd refers to the architecture, not the chip manufacturer. I know nothing about plesk, but are you sure you *must* have 6.1? The legacy production release is now at 6.3. I've never built a 64-bit machine, but given the present situation I'd absolutely go with 7.0 for a new install, at least for a 32-bit system. A note, if I may. I have been on this list for many years and can say without hesitation that you're unlikely to get an answer when your subject line reads Hi. You may want to repost with a subject line that more accurately describes your question. HTH. -- Chris Hill [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** [ Busy Expunging | ] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi - followed FAQ but can't mount USB key as user
Hi all - I've recently installed FreeBSD 6.2-release - very impressed! Just a small problem. I'm unable to mount my USB key as a user. ( I can mount it as root, using the command mount -t msdos /dev/da0s1 /mnt ) This is what I get when I try to mount it as a user - $ mount -t msdos /dev/da0s1 /home/andy mount_msdosfs: /dev/da0s1: Permission denied $ mount -t msdos /dev/da0s1 /mnt mount_msdosfs: /dev/da0s1: Operation not permitted I followed the instructions in the FAQ ( section 9.23 ) to the letter ( the only change being that that doesn't mention USB devices, so I've substituted the USB device name da0 for the device names there. ) Here are the relevant bits of information - Release - FreeBSD 6.2-release running on a Dell OptiPlex P3 system. Soon after I inserted the USB key, I ran tail - here's the output - $ tail -f /var/log/messages Jan 8 21:37:51 localhost kernel: ad0: 8223MB Seagate ST38410A 3.03 at ata0-master UDMA33 Jan 8 21:37:51 localhost kernel: acd0: CDROM SAMSUNG SC-140B/d005 at ata1-master PIO4 Jan 8 21:37:51 localhost kernel: Trying to mount root from ufs:/dev/ad0s1a Jan 8 21:40:02 localhost kernel: uhub1: Prolific Technology Inc. USB Embedded Hub, class 9/0, rev 2.00/1.00, addr 2 Jan 8 21:40:02 localhost kernel: uhub1: 1 port with 0 removable, self powered Jan 8 21:40:03 localhost kernel: umass0: Prolific Technology Inc. USB Mass Storage Device, rev 2.00/1.00, addr 3 Jan 8 21:40:03 localhost kernel: da0 at umass-sim0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 Jan 8 21:40:03 localhost kernel: da0: USB 2.0 Flash Disk 1.00 Removable Direct Access SCSI-0 device Jan 8 21:40:03 localhost kernel: da0: 1.000MB/s transfers Jan 8 21:40:03 localhost kernel: da0: 992MB (2031616 512 byte sectors: 64H 32S/T 992C) $ usbdevs addr 1: UHCI root hub, Intel addr 2: USB Embedded Hub, Prolific Technology Inc. addr 3: USB Mass Storage Device, Prolific Technology Inc. $ cat /etc/fstab # DeviceMountpoint FStype Options Dump Pass# /dev/ad0s1b noneswap sw 0 0 /dev/ad0s1a / ufs rw 1 1 /dev/ad0s1d /home ufs rw 2 2 /dev/acd0/cdrom cd9660 ro,noauto 0 0 ( Just before posting here, I was about to add a usb entry to the fstab, but then I thought No - it wasn't needed for root to mount the device, and adding that to the fstab wasn't mentioned in the FAQ that I was carefully following..) $ groups andy andy wheel operator $ cat /etc/rc.conf ( removed my IP address details for the purposes of posting here ) linux_enable=YES moused_enable=YES usbd_enable=YES So, I'm a bit puzzled as to what I might have missed. I've now even rebooted a couple of times, but nothing has changed. I can mount the device as root but not as a user. So, any suggestions are very welcome... Thanks very much for your time :-) - Andy ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Hi - followed FAQ but can't mount USB key as user
Andy, On Jan 8, 2008 9:48 AM, Andy Elvey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all - I've recently installed FreeBSD 6.2-release - very impressed! Just a small problem. I'm unable to mount my USB key as a user. ( I can mount it as root, using the command mount -t msdos /dev/da0s1 /mnt ) This is what I get when I try to mount it as a user - $ mount -t msdos /dev/da0s1 /home/andy mount_msdosfs: /dev/da0s1: Permission denied $ mount -t msdos /dev/da0s1 /mnt mount_msdosfs: /dev/da0s1: Operation not permitted I followed the instructions in the FAQ ( section 9.23 ) to the letter ( the only change being that that doesn't mention USB devices, so I've substituted the USB device name da0 for the device names there. ) hmmm, freebsd.org seems to be broken for me - man devfs.rules - create /etc/devfs.rules: ( substitute wheel for the group you want ) [localrules=10] add path 'da*s*' mode 0660 group wheel - append to /etc/rc.conf: devfs_system_ruleset=localrules - make sure the dir you are mounting on is owned by the user who issues the mount command. - make sure vfs.usermount=1 - reboot after changing devfs.rules rc.conf worked for me, let us know if it worked for you. regards, usleep ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Hi - followed FAQ but can't mount USB key as user
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Andy, On Jan 8, 2008 9:48 AM, Andy Elvey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all - I've recently installed FreeBSD 6.2-release - very impressed! Just a small problem. I'm unable to mount my USB key as a user. ( I can mount it as root, using the command mount -t msdos /dev/da0s1 /mnt ) This is what I get when I try to mount it as a user - $ mount -t msdos /dev/da0s1 /home/andy mount_msdosfs: /dev/da0s1: Permission denied $ mount -t msdos /dev/da0s1 /mnt mount_msdosfs: /dev/da0s1: Operation not permitted I followed the instructions in the FAQ ( section 9.23 ) to the letter ( the only change being that that doesn't mention USB devices, so I've substituted the USB device name da0 for the device names there. ) hmmm, freebsd.org seems to be broken for me - man devfs.rules - create /etc/devfs.rules: ( substitute wheel for the group you want ) [localrules=10] add path 'da*s*' mode 0660 group wheel - append to /etc/rc.conf: devfs_system_ruleset=localrules - make sure the dir you are mounting on is owned by the user who issues the mount command. - make sure vfs.usermount=1 - reboot after changing devfs.rules rc.conf worked for me, let us know if it worked for you. regards, usleep Hi usleep - many thanks for this! I'll let you know soon :-) Bye for now - - Andy ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Hi bsd team! Plz help me!
El día Friday, October 19, 2007 a las 11:39:42AM +0500, Eldar Velibekov escribió: Hi BSD team. Thanx for a Great OS! But! i wont use also graphical mode(X - system) but i dont wont 1024-768 resolution, i wont 1280 - 800 on my laptop(HP 510, CHipset Intel 915GMS family).What i must do??? Asuming that you have installed Xor and KDE: as root: # Xorg -configure this writes the guessed config as $HOME/xorg.conf.new test it with: # Xorg -config xorg.conf.new copy it over to /etc/X11/xorg.conf and do as you (normal user): % echo exec startkde ~/.xinitrc % startx matthias -- Matthias Apitz Manager Technical Support - OCLC PICA GmbH Gruenwalder Weg 28g - 82041 Oberhaching - Germany t +49-89-61308 351 - f +49-89-61308 399 - m +49-170-4527211 e [EMAIL PROTECTED] - w http://www.oclcpica.org/ http://www.UnixArea.de/ b http://gurucubano.blogspot.com/ OCLC PICA GmbH, Geschaeftsfuehrer: Christine Magin-Weeger, Norbert Weinberger Sitz der Gesellschaft: Oberhaching, HRB Muenchen: 113261 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Hi bsd team! Plz help me!
On Fri, 2007-10-19 at 11:39 +0500, Eldar Velibekov wrote: Hi BSD team. Thanx for a Great OS! But! i wont use also graphical mode(X - system) but i dont wont 1024-768 resolution, i wont 1280 - 800 on my laptop(HP 510, CHipset Intel 915GMS family).What i must do??? If you are using GNOME desktop, then you do as following step: System - Preferences - Screen Resolution - 1280x800 - Apply That's GNOME Rules: http://www.freebsd.org/gnome/index.html ;; Sincerely, -- Byung-Hee HWANG [EMAIL PROTECTED] InZealBomb, Kyungpook National University, KOREA What I care about is that you obviously don't love me. -- Kay Adams, Chapter 25, page 359 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Hi bsd team! Plz help me!
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Subject: Re: Hi bsd team! Plz help me! From: Alain G. Fabry [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2007 10:02:24 +0200 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: list MIME-Version: 1.0 References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message: 20 On Fri, Oct 19, 2007 at 04:23:13PM +0900, Byung-Hee HWANG wrote: On Fri, 2007-10-19 at 11:39 +0500, Eldar Velibekov wrote: Hi BSD team. Thanx for a Great OS! But! i wont use also graphical mode(X - system) but i dont wont 1024-768 resolution, i wont 1280 - 800 on my laptop(HP 510, CHipset Intel 915GMS family).What i must do??? If you are using GNOME desktop, then you do as following step: System - Preferences - Screen Resolution - 1280x800 - Apply That's GNOME Rules: http://www.freebsd.org/gnome/index.html ;; Sincerely, I guess it all depends on which video card he is using. My ATI X1600 Radeon doesn't support 1280x800 (to my knowledge...) So it is possible that his video card doesn't either?! The OP could also try to use the port 915resolution that was designed to enable the 1280x800 resolution on Intel graph. chipsets. If he reads the information that comes with it, he should not need more help. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
