Re: cvsup of RELENG_8_1

[Jim Nasby]

On 6/9/12 2:43 PM, Lowell Gilbert wrote:

Jim Nasby  writes:


I keep getting this error when trying to update source on 8.1:

TreeList failed: Error in "/var/db/sup/src-all/checkouts.cvs:RELENG_8_1": 
13890: Could not parse status record.  Delete it and try again.


Have you tried deleting /var/db/sup/src-all/checkouts.cvs:RELENG_8_1 and
retrying cvsup?


Somehow I got it in my head that that was a file living on the cvsup server and 
not locally.

After deleting that file all is good. Thanks for your help!
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Re: cvsup of RELENG_8_1

[Lowell Gilbert]

Jim Nasby  writes:

> I keep getting this error when trying to update source on 8.1:
>
> TreeList failed: Error in "/var/db/sup/src-all/checkouts.cvs:RELENG_8_1": 
> 13890: Could not parse status record.  Delete it and try again.

Have you tried deleting /var/db/sup/src-all/checkouts.cvs:RELENG_8_1 and
retrying cvsup?

> I realize that 8.1 isn't formally supported anymore, but should cvsup still 
> work? I can't upgrade right now because of the conflict between GPT and 
> gmirror what was introduced in 8.2.

Right. This isn't version-related.
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Re: cvsup and versions

[Michael Powell]

wayne mitchell wrote:

> hey,
> i have just cvsup'ed for first time (newbie)

Cvsup as an add-on port is actually no longer needed. Csup is cvsup 
rewritten in C and is a part of the base OS now. Functionally identical.

> RELENG_8_1_RELEASE
> rebuilt world...
> there is a problem with a particular port:
> audio/libsndfile

I am uncertain if you are aware of the difference between 'world' and 
installed ports. The make target of buildworld, buildkernel, etc apply to 
the OS itself and would pertain mostly to OS version upgrades and custom 
kernels. 

This can be reflected in the supfile you might utilize for each purpose. I 
keep 2 different ones, because they pull different bits. By way of example, 
my 'src' supfile for OS source updating will have something along the lines 
of:
[...]
*default release=cvs tag=RELENG_8_2
*default delete use-rel-suffix compress
src-all

The tag RELENG_8_2 is known as the security branch of Release. The only bits 
that change with regard to Release is the inclusion of security update 
patches. The src-all collection contains the OS bits.

My 'ports' supfile has a different tag and collection:
[...]
*default release=cvs tag=.
*default delete use-rel-suffix compress
ports-all

The ports-all collection updates the ports tree. Note the different tag. If 
you were to use this tag _and_ the src-all collection you would be pulling 
the OS bits for -HEAD. When used for ports tree refresh you will always be 
on the most current ports tree at each refresh.

Since dependency tracking comes from the ports tree, each time it 'moves' 
forward (that is applications get newer with version number changes) all 
dependencies slide along for the ride. This is what enables one to utilize 
portupgrade and portmaster to keep installed applciations (and their 
dependencies) updated and matching version-wise.

So most refresh their ports tree immediately prior to adding, installing, or 
updating 3rd party applications, ensuring that everything is always the 
latest and greatest.

The possibility does exist that one may 'freeze' a ports tree in time, 
although not many good reasons for doing so exist. In the ports supfile can 
be added a date parameter which will select a version of the tree as it 
existed at that time. Not something I'd recommend dealing with, per se.


> the version in this system ports tree is 1.0.21
> the set of versions available within the cvs repository are:
>  1.0.20, 1.0.23, 1.0.24 - but not 1.0.21
> 1.0.24 is latest
> it seems that the latest version did not carry across with the cvsup
> i have most documentation available
> have tried portupgrade - no go
> am stuck
> how do i update this individual port
> and is it possible to have two separate versions of same port in the tree
> example: to rename libsndfile dirs to
> libsndfile-1.0.21, libsndfile-1.0.24
> for sake dependancies
> am guessing, though i suspect that the two installed binaries may
> conflict... ___

Although not particularly recommended it is possible to have one binary 
version of a lib reported as multiple versions. See man libmap.conf. I 
believe it is better to have recompiled apps linked to the correct lib, e.g. 
libfoo.so.3 may be possibly different enough so that when you lie to app xyz 
it is libfoo.so.2 app xyz may malfunction.

-Mike


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Re: cvsup and versions

[ill...@gmail.com]

On 27 June 2011 17:17, wayne mitchell  wrote:
> hey,
> i have just cvsup'ed for first time (newbie)
> RELENG_8_1_RELEASE
> rebuilt world...
> there is a problem with a particular port:
> audio/libsndfile
> the version in this system ports tree is 1.0.21
> the set of versions available within the cvs repository are:
>  1.0.20, 1.0.23, 1.0.24 - but not 1.0.21
> 1.0.24 is latest
> it seems that the latest version did not carry across with the cvsup
> i have most documentation available
> have tried portupgrade - no go
> am stuck
> how do i update this individual port
> and is it possible to have two separate versions of same port in the tree
> example: to rename libsndfile dirs to
> libsndfile-1.0.21, libsndfile-1.0.24
> for sake dependancies
> am guessing, though i suspect that the two installed binaries may conflict...

You need to update your ports tree, which is handled separately
from the base system.

The simplest method is via portsnap(8)
(qv 
http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=portsnap&apropos=0&sektion=0&manpath=FreeBSD+8.2-RELEASE&format=html
or http://tinyurl.com/3cr6ktw )
And then run portupgrade (or portmanager, or portmaster)
to upgrade your installed ports.

You can also use cvs to update your ports tree, but it
occasionally presents certain difficulties.

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Re: cvsup and versions

[RW]

On Mon, 27 Jun 2011 22:17:09 +0100
wayne mitchell wrote:

> hey,
> i have just cvsup'ed for first time (newbie)
> RELENG_8_1_RELEASE

You probably want to use RELENG_8_1 which is the security branch for
the 8.1 release. RELENG_8_1_RELEASE is the version on the CD,  without
any security fixes.


> rebuilt world...
> there is a problem with a particular port:
> audio/libsndfile
> the version in this system ports tree is 1.0.21
> the set of versions available within the cvs repository are:
>  1.0.20, 1.0.23, 1.0.24 - but not 1.0.21
> 1.0.24 is latest

I updated my ports this morning and have 1.0.24. You probably just
updated the World (base-system) source code. I think the sample sup
files have separate files for world and ports . I think that's the best
way to do it although some people prefer to do them together.

Most people these days use portsnap for updating the ports tree.



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Re: CVSUP

[Matthew Seaman]

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On 10/06/2010 17:26:22, Grant Peel wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> Its been a while since I have used CVSup.
> 
> I have a server with FreeBSD 8 RELEASE on it. It was built very shortly
> after 8.0 was released.
> 
> I want to run CVSup on the source and ports before deploying it
> 
> TO make sure that just ports and source are updated, what tag do I use
> in the supfile (to stay with RELEASE only)?
> 
> RELENG_8_0?

Yes.

Except that cvsup is spelled csup nowadays -- or at least the C language
version in the base system is csup(1).

Also RELENG_8_0 is a tag that applies /only/ to the source distribution.
 Ports simply isn't tagged and branched in the same way.  You pretty
much always want HEAD when csup'ing ports.

Verb. Sap.  Put something like the following in your /etc/make.conf
(choose a cvsup server closer to you) and you can update both src and
ports by running 'make update' in /usr/src:

SUP_UPDATE= yes
SUP=/usr/bin/csup
SUPFLAGS=   -L2
SUPHOST=cvsup.uk.freebsd.org
SUPFILE=/usr/share/examples/cvsup/standard-supfile
PORTSSUPFILE=   /usr/share/examples/cvsup/ports-supfile

(standard-supfile should default to RELENG_8_0 on a box running
8.0-RELEASE, but check and edit the file to make sure)

Cheers

Matthew

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Re: CVSUP

[Brian Seklecki (Mobile)]

RELENG_8_0


 Yes.  This will give you the latest 8.0 release + desired patch level
 (critical security patches).  This is almost certain what you want to be
 running before going to production status.  I mean, you could use
 RELENG_8_0_RELEASE I suppose, but then the cvsup would be without merit.

 Dont use a tag with the ports supfile.

~BAS
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Re: CVSUP

[Jason]

On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 12:26:22PM -0400, Grant Peel thus spake:

Hi all,

Its been a while since I have used CVSup.

I have a server with FreeBSD 8 RELEASE on it. It was built very shortly
after 8.0 was released.

I want to run CVSup on the source and ports before deploying it

TO make sure that just ports and source are updated, what tag do I use in
the supfile (to stay with RELEASE only)?

RELENG_8_0?


This handbook article may be what you are looking for:
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/cvs-tags.html

RELENG_8_0 sounds right though...


-Grant



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Re: cvsup blues

[Roland Smith]

On Mon, Jan 04, 2010 at 09:13:00AM -0500, John Almberg wrote:
> I am trying to update my ports collection on a new server using cvsup. 
> I've added a mirror site to my ports-supfile, but keep getting the 
> following error message:

Have you tried portsnap(8)? I find it much more convenient for keeping the
ports collection up-to-date. Fast too.

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Re: cvsup blues

[John Almberg]

John Almberg wrote:

I am trying to update my ports collection on a new server using cvsup.
I've added a mirror site to my ports-supfile, but keep getting the
following error message:

on# csup -g -L 2 /root/ports-supfile
Parsing supfile "/root/ports-supfile"
Connecting to cvsup7.us.FreeBSD.org
Cannot connect to 64.215.216.140: Operation not permitted
Will retry at 09:13:28


I've tried several different mirror sites, so the problem seems to be on
my side (unless all the mirror sites are locked?)


Okay, well, it must have been a short-term problem on the mirror side. I 
tried it several times over the last 1/2 hr, and it suddenly started 
working...


Computers!

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Re: cvsup blues

[John Almberg]

The csup servers do have a rate-limiting feature on them. However, I
think it gives a different error message than that. "Operating not
permitted" makes it seem more like a networking issue on the local
machine. Can you ping the IP? Firewall blocking outgoing ports?


I pinged a few of the mirror sites to choose the fastest one, so, yes I 
can ping them.


I turned off PF temporarily to see if it could be a firewall problem. No 
difference.


I'm also having problems installing ports. I wanted to get vim installed 
while trying to figure out this port upgrade problem. Vim uses lots of 
files and a bunch of them downloaded when I typed 'make install clean', 
but then I ran into a batch that give an error message like below.


I can fetch the files manually, using wget (which installed with no 
problem), but I'm getting a lot of these problems, which means its going 
to take about 5 years to install all the ports I need.


I've never had this problem, before... weird.

-- John

=> Attempting to fetch from 
ftp://ftp1.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/distfiles/gnome2/.

fetch: libxml2-2.7.3.tar.gz: local modification time does not match remote
=> Attempting to fetch from ftp://fr.rpmfind.net/pub/libxml/.
fetch: libxml2-2.7.3.tar.gz: local modification time does not match remote
=> Attempting to fetch from ftp://gd.tuwien.ac.at/pub/libxml/.
fetch: libxml2-2.7.3.tar.gz: local modification time does not match remote
=> Attempting to fetch from ftp://xmlsoft.org/libxml2/.
fetch: libxml2-2.7.3.tar.gz: local modification time does not match remote
=> Attempting to fetch from 
ftp://ftp1.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/distfiles/gnome2/.

fetch: libxml2-2.7.3.tar.gz: local modification time does not match remote
=> Couldn't fetch it - please try to retrieve this
=> port manually into /usr/ports/distfiles/gnome2 and try again.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/ports/textproc/libxml2.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/ports/textproc/libxml2.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/ports/textproc/libxslt.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/ports/textproc/libxslt.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/ports/x11/libxcb.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/ports/x11/libX11.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/ports/x11-toolkits/libXt.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/ports/editors/vim.


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Re: cvsup blues

[APseudoUtopia]

On Mon, Jan 4, 2010 at 9:13 AM, John Almberg  wrote:
> I am trying to update my ports collection on a new server using cvsup. I've
> added a mirror site to my ports-supfile, but keep getting the following
> error message:
>
> on# csup -g -L 2 /root/ports-supfile
> Parsing supfile "/root/ports-supfile"
> Connecting to cvsup7.us.FreeBSD.org
> Cannot connect to 64.215.216.140: Operation not permitted
> Will retry at 09:13:28
>
>
> I've tried several different mirror sites, so the problem seems to be on my
> side (unless all the mirror sites are locked?)
>
> Any ideas?
>
> Thanks: John

The csup servers do have a rate-limiting feature on them. However, I
think it gives a different error message than that. "Operating not
permitted" makes it seem more like a networking issue on the local
machine. Can you ping the IP? Firewall blocking outgoing ports?
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Re: cvsup*.*.freebsd.org and authentications

[enterhaken]

Am Fri, 21 Aug 2009 13:48:39 +0200
schrieb Stevan Tiefert :

Hi Stevan,

I connected to cvsup5.de.freebsd.org a long time with no errors.

Jochen

> Hello list,
> 
> in the last few months more and more cvsup-servers are printing
> error-messages like them:
> 
> host# csup ports-supfile
> Connected to 212.118.165.142
> Authentication required by the server and not supported by client
> host# 
> 
> Even cvsup has problems with them. What does the error messages
> exactly means and how can I connect nevertheless to them?
> 
> With regards
> Stevan Tiefert
> 
> 
> 
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Re: cvsup-mirror

[Tim Judd]

On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 11:49 AM, Tim Judd  wrote:

> I am having quite the issue with a cvsup-mirror install (1.3_8) here.  It
> seems to be keeping some meta information file somewhere and has FAILED to
> give me a local mirror (not one to be publicly available) yet.
>
>
> Being the stubborn person I am, I have multiple times cleared some and all
> of the following to try to resolve the problem...
>
> /usr/local/etc/cvsup
> the package itself
> /home/ncvs
> /home/cvsupin
> /usr/ports/ports/net/cvsup-mirror
>
>
>
> And each time it takes ~5 hours to download 1.5GB of data in /home/ncvs
> then a client connecting to itself fails to work.  Latest problem is
>
> -- Quote
> Server warning: Cannot open
> "/usr/local/etc/cvsup/prefixes/FreeBSD.cvs/src/gnu/lib/libgmp/mpz/get_si.c,v":
> No such file or directory
> Server warning: Cannot open
> "/usr/local/etc/cvsup/prefixes/FreeBSD.cvs/src/gnu/lib/libgmp/mpz/get_str.c,v":
> No such file or directory
> Server warning: Cannot open
> "/usr/local/etc/cvsup/prefixes/FreeBSD.cvs/src/gnu/lib/libgmp/mpz/get_ui.c,v":
> No such file or directory
> Server warning: Cannot open
> "/usr/local/etc/cvsup/prefixes/FreeBSD.cvs/src/gnu/lib/libgmp/mpz/getlimbn.c,v":
> No such file or directory
> -- /Quote
>
> It's just a snippet..  It can't find ANYTHING.
>
> Other problems included the inability to even select the src-all/cvs or
> ports-all/cvs (trees? branches?) in the server, yet it has 1.5GB downloaded.
>
> What'd help me to learn what's wrong is the line in config.sh as below:
> distribs="distrib.self .. . FreeBSD.cvs /home/ncvs . FreeBSD-www.current
> SKIP . FreeBSD-gnats.current SKIP gnats FreeBSD-mail.current SKIP ."
>
> My guess is it names a distribution and puts a directory it stores the
> files into in the next argument, separated by space.  Next distribution is
> named and it's directory it stores the files into as the next one past that,
> with all distributions separated by a single period.
>
> Then the word 'gnats' throws me off because I .  don't know what the
> heck it's there for..  is the '.' an alias instead to the first item in the
> line, meaning it's a tuple?
> (distrib storedir alias)...
>
>
>
> What throws me off is that the /usr/local/etc/cvsup directory was tarred up
> from a working mirror and copied here and let the update.sh run for 5 hours,
> to come to the above quoted warnings (but I'm treating them as errors).  The
> working system has about 4GB in /home/ncvs that works for me, but this one
> can't get past 1.5GB.  Working system has been working beautifully for
> several months (6?)..  so maybe it's just collective.
>
>
> I really would like to get a bearing on cvsup-mirror, but have no clue what
> to google or read to find out some of the troubleshooting guides.
>
>
>
> --Tim
>


Bump

Any other mailing list I can send this question to?
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Re: cvsup TreeList failed connection timed out

[Troy]

On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 05:22:04AM +, RW wrote:
> On Sun, 15 Mar 2009 22:32:49 -0500
> Troy  wrote:
> 
> > I'm having a problem with cvsup and it just started happening. I have
> > other servers on the same LAN that are having no problem connecting
> > to the very same servers.  I found other people that had this problem
> > by searching but nothing gave a definitive answer on how to solve
> > this.  I tried to rebuild cvsup from source again and it build just
> > fine but the problem still exists.  
> 
> Since you don't mention that you are running an old release, have you
> tried switching to csup in the base system?

I am on RELENG_7.  I just rebuilt the world on the machine when this
problem started. I should have mentioned that. I also rebuilt the world on
a second server sitting right next to this one and it has no problem with
CVSUP.  There has to be a cause for why this cvsup is failing or a file
that can be deleted and rebuilt or some other troubleshooting to this
problem.  Anyone have ideas?


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Re: cvsup TreeList failed connection timed out

[RW]

On Sun, 15 Mar 2009 22:32:49 -0500
Troy  wrote:

> I'm having a problem with cvsup and it just started happening. I have
> other servers on the same LAN that are having no problem connecting
> to the very same servers.  I found other people that had this problem
> by searching but nothing gave a definitive answer on how to solve
> this.  I tried to rebuild cvsup from source again and it build just
> fine but the problem still exists.  

Since you don't mention that you are running an old release, have you
tried switching to csup in the base system?
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Re: cvsup: local

[Lowell Gilbert]

"fire jotawski" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> i did cvsup with supfile given in example,
> /usr/share/examples/cvsup/cvs-supfile,
> and set base to /var/db and prefix to /home/ncvs as suggested and then
>
> cvsup -g -L 2 -h HOST /usr/share/examples/cvsup/cvs-supfile
>
> where HOST is the one that run fastest in local area around my country.

Okay, so you have the CVS tree on that tree.

> my real problem is that i can not do cvsup from any machine in my office.
> but there is no problem at home.  so i simply bring my notebook home and do
> cvsup as above.  later on at the office, i want my other machine get
> /usr/src from my notebook but i can not and that's my problem.

Now I understand what you are trying to do.  

> and frankly speaking my english is quite poor, i spend the whole week end to
> understand documents cited.

Your written English is more than good enough for me to understand, so
your skills are obviously much better than the way you describe
yourself.  Now that you have spent much time understanding some of the
documents, you might be able to help others by working on the
translations for whichever language you would prefer to read in.

> unfortunately, that bring me more problem and that's why i revert back to my
> instinct with cvs.

Either way (cvs or cvsup) should work fine.  

The easiest way to use CVS directly would be to NFS-mount the CVS
repository on the client, and then checking out directly.  For example,
if the repository were mounted on /ncvs, the checkout command might be
something like 
  (cd /usr/src ; cvs -d /ncvs co -r  src-all )
[I haven't tested this; I may have made an error, and I'm not sure what
TAG you would want.]

For using cvsup, you can install the cvsup-mirror port on the machine
you want to use as the cvsup server.  It will ask you a number of
questions so that it can configure cvsupd properly, and you won't need
to worry about it.

Use whichever one you want; I don't see any reason to prefer one or the
other.  

Good luck.
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Re: cvsup: local

[fire jotawski]

On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 12:31 AM, Lowell Gilbert <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> "fire jotawski" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 9:59 PM, Lowell Gilbert <
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >> "fire jotawski" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >>
> >> > i have my small box, 10.3.1.25 ip,  that cvsup-ed files from
> repository
> >> into
> >> > it.  it use cvs-supfile in /usr/share/examples/cvsup/ to collect
> files.
> >> > now that i want my other machine to cvsup 6.2-release source files
> from
> >> the
> >> > one mentioned above.
> >> >
> >> > my  trial was
> >> >
> >> > cvsupd -b /var/db -c sup
> >> >
> >> > for box, 10.3.1.25 ip,  and for other machine
> >> >
> >> > cvsup -g -L 2 -h 10.3.1.25 sup-file
> >> >
> >> > what i got was  'Server message: Unknown collection "src-all" '
> message.
> >> > and later on
> >> >
> >> > Running
> >> > Skipping collection src-all/cvs
> >> > Skipping collection doc-all/cvs
> >> > Shutting down connection to server
> >> > Finished successfully
> >> >
> >> > very strange indeed.
> >> >
> >> > any helps and hints in setting cvsup server would highly be
> appreciated.
> >>
> >> To run cvsupd, you need the whole cvs tree for the collections you're
> >> handling, not just the checked-out files.
> >>
> >> Assuming these machines are attached by a protected network, a better
> >> approach (easier, anyway) would probably be to cvsup the changes to
> >> just one machine, then NFS-mount that machine's ports tree from the
> >> other machine.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Lowell Gilbert, embedded/networking software engineer, Boston area
> >>
> >> http://be-well.ilk.org/~lowell/
> 
> >>
> >
> >
> > thanks indeed and apologized me for postponing answer to all of postings.
> > what about cvs then.  i did  this
> >
> > cvs -d /home/ncvs checkout ports
> >
> > and i got some thing quite similar to ports tree indeed.
>
> What did you think that command was going to do?  Do you have a full cvs
> ports tree under /home/ncvs?  How did you get that?



i did cvsup with supfile given in example,
/usr/share/examples/cvsup/cvs-supfile,
and set base to /var/db and prefix to /home/ncvs as suggested and then

cvsup -g -L 2 -h HOST /usr/share/examples/cvsup/cvs-supfile

where HOST is the one that run fastest in local area around my country.


>
> My understanding was that you wanted to put the ports tree on one
> machine (call it the "master"), then use it to install ports on other
> machines that are local to the master.  The way to do that would be to
> use cvsup as normal on the master, and build all the ports there.  Then
> you can use NFS to mount /usr/ports on the other machines, and install
> the ports on them as well.  To speed things up, you can set WRKDIRPREFIX
> to point at local disk space on the client machines.  You can even have
> the master machine build packages, avoiding the need to build the ports
> from source on the clients.
>
> Does that make sense to you?  Do you need it described in more detail?
>

my real problem is that i can not do cvsup from any machine in my office.
but there is no problem at home.  so i simply bring my notebook home and do
cvsup as above.  later on at the office, i want my other machine get
/usr/src from my notebook but i can not and that's my problem.

and frankly speaking my english is quite poor, i spend the whole week end to
understand documents cited.
unfortunately, that bring me more problem and that's why i revert back to my
instinct with cvs.

anyway, i really appreciate all answers to me and still hope that you will
give me further helps.

with best regards,
psr

>
> Good luck.
> --
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>
> http://be-well.ilk.org/~lowell/
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Re: cvsup: local

[Lowell Gilbert]

"fire jotawski" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 9:59 PM, Lowell Gilbert <
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> "fire jotawski" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>>
>> > i have my small box, 10.3.1.25 ip,  that cvsup-ed files from repository
>> into
>> > it.  it use cvs-supfile in /usr/share/examples/cvsup/ to collect files.
>> > now that i want my other machine to cvsup 6.2-release source files from
>> the
>> > one mentioned above.
>> >
>> > my  trial was
>> >
>> > cvsupd -b /var/db -c sup
>> >
>> > for box, 10.3.1.25 ip,  and for other machine
>> >
>> > cvsup -g -L 2 -h 10.3.1.25 sup-file
>> >
>> > what i got was  'Server message: Unknown collection "src-all" ' message.
>> > and later on
>> >
>> > Running
>> > Skipping collection src-all/cvs
>> > Skipping collection doc-all/cvs
>> > Shutting down connection to server
>> > Finished successfully
>> >
>> > very strange indeed.
>> >
>> > any helps and hints in setting cvsup server would highly be appreciated.
>>
>> To run cvsupd, you need the whole cvs tree for the collections you're
>> handling, not just the checked-out files.
>>
>> Assuming these machines are attached by a protected network, a better
>> approach (easier, anyway) would probably be to cvsup the changes to
>> just one machine, then NFS-mount that machine's ports tree from the
>> other machine.
>>
>> --
>> Lowell Gilbert, embedded/networking software engineer, Boston area
>>
>> http://be-well.ilk.org/~lowell/
>>
>
>
> thanks indeed and apologized me for postponing answer to all of postings.
> what about cvs then.  i did  this
>
> cvs -d /home/ncvs checkout ports
>
> and i got some thing quite similar to ports tree indeed.

What did you think that command was going to do?  Do you have a full cvs
ports tree under /home/ncvs?  How did you get that?

My understanding was that you wanted to put the ports tree on one
machine (call it the "master"), then use it to install ports on other
machines that are local to the master.  The way to do that would be to
use cvsup as normal on the master, and build all the ports there.  Then
you can use NFS to mount /usr/ports on the other machines, and install
the ports on them as well.  To speed things up, you can set WRKDIRPREFIX
to point at local disk space on the client machines.  You can even have
the master machine build packages, avoiding the need to build the ports
from source on the clients.

Does that make sense to you?  Do you need it described in more detail?

Good luck.
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Re: cvsup: local

[fire jotawski]

On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 9:59 PM, Lowell Gilbert <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> "fire jotawski" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > i have my small box, 10.3.1.25 ip,  that cvsup-ed files from repository
> into
> > it.  it use cvs-supfile in /usr/share/examples/cvsup/ to collect files.
> > now that i want my other machine to cvsup 6.2-release source files from
> the
> > one mentioned above.
> >
> > my  trial was
> >
> > cvsupd -b /var/db -c sup
> >
> > for box, 10.3.1.25 ip,  and for other machine
> >
> > cvsup -g -L 2 -h 10.3.1.25 sup-file
> >
> > what i got was  'Server message: Unknown collection "src-all" ' message.
> > and later on
> >
> > Running
> > Skipping collection src-all/cvs
> > Skipping collection doc-all/cvs
> > Shutting down connection to server
> > Finished successfully
> >
> > very strange indeed.
> >
> > any helps and hints in setting cvsup server would highly be appreciated.
>
> To run cvsupd, you need the whole cvs tree for the collections you're
> handling, not just the checked-out files.
>
> Assuming these machines are attached by a protected network, a better
> approach (easier, anyway) would probably be to cvsup the changes to
> just one machine, then NFS-mount that machine's ports tree from the
> other machine.
>
> --
> Lowell Gilbert, embedded/networking software engineer, Boston area
>
> http://be-well.ilk.org/~lowell/
>


thanks indeed and apologized me for postponing answer to all of postings.
what about cvs then.  i did  this

cvs -d /home/ncvs checkout ports

and i got some thing quite similar to ports tree indeed.

thanks in advance for any informations

rgds,
psr


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Re: cvsup first time - connection refused

[Mel]

On Monday 17 November 2008 20:48:20 Roland Smith wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 12:53:02PM -0500, Lowell Gilbert wrote:
> > Roland Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > > On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 05:49:04PM +0200, Yony Yossef wrote:
> > >> Hi,
> > >>
> > >> I'm running cvsup -g -L 2 cvs-supfile with all kinds of host names
> > >> from this list:
> > >>
> > >> http://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/cvsup.html#HANDBOOK-MIRRORS-CHAPTE
> > >>R-SGML-MIRRORS-IL-CVSUP
> > >>
> > >> I get a Connection refused error.
> > >>
> > >> Help..
> > >
> > > First, you should run csup (which is now part of the base system)
> > > instead of the cvsup port.
> >
> > That won't work at all with the standard cvs-supfile, which uses CVS
> > mode.
>
> And what mode does csup use that is different?

check-out only, for the moment. The csup author already has posted work 
on -hackers for repo-copy mode a few months back.

The OP mentions cvs-supfile, which 
suggests /usr/share/examples/cvsup/cvs-supfile. This supfile repo copies the 
entire FreeBSD cvs repository. To get anything useful, it needs to be checked 
out again, using cvs.
This is mainly used for mirroring and if you want to get different branches to 
a machine in one download, maintain local patches etc.
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Re: cvsup first time - connection refused

[Roland Smith]

On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 12:53:02PM -0500, Lowell Gilbert wrote:
> Roland Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> > On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 05:49:04PM +0200, Yony Yossef wrote:
> >> Hi,
> >> 
> >> I'm running cvsup -g -L 2 cvs-supfile with all kinds of host names
> >> from this list:
> >> 
> >> http://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/cvsup.html#HANDBOOK-MIRRORS-CHAPTER-SGML-MIRRORS-IL-CVSUP
> >> 
> >> I get a Connection refused error.
> >> 
> >> Help..
> >
> > First, you should run csup (which is now part of the base system)
> > instead of the cvsup port. 
> 
> That won't work at all with the standard cvs-supfile, which uses CVS
> mode.  

And what mode does csup use that is different?

The supfile that I successfully used with csup says 
"*default release=cvs tag=RELENG_7".

The standard supfile shouldn't work unmodified anyway. The host
CHANGE_THIS.FreeBSD.org doesn't resolve. Which is probably for the best :)

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Re: cvsup first time - connection refused

[Lowell Gilbert]

Roland Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 05:49:04PM +0200, Yony Yossef wrote:
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I'm running cvsup -g -L 2 cvs-supfile with all kinds of host names
>> from this list:
>> 
>> http://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/cvsup.html#HANDBOOK-MIRRORS-CHAPTER-SGML-MIRRORS-IL-CVSUP
>> 
>> I get a Connection refused error.
>> 
>> Help..
>
> First, you should run csup (which is now part of the base system)
> instead of the cvsup port. 

That won't work at all with the standard cvs-supfile, which uses CVS
mode.  

> Then try one of the mirrors in say Greece or Italy or France.
>
> If that doesn't work, check that your firewall or router aren't blocking
> things. 

That's almost certainly the problem.

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Re: cvsup first time - connection refused

[Roland Smith]

On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 05:49:04PM +0200, Yony Yossef wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I'm running cvsup -g -L 2 cvs-supfile with all kinds of host names
> from this list:
> 
> http://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/cvsup.html#HANDBOOK-MIRRORS-CHAPTER-SGML-MIRRORS-IL-CVSUP
> 
> I get a Connection refused error.
> 
> Help..

First, you should run csup (which is now part of the base system)
instead of the cvsup port. 

Then try one of the mirrors in say Greece or Italy or France.

If that doesn't work, check that your firewall or router aren't blocking
things. 

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Re: CVSup update nagios-3.0.4_1

[Mel]

On Thursday 06 November 2008 16:20:13 Johan Hendriks wrote:

> >> cd /usr/ports/ ; make update ; make fetchindex
> >>
> >> When the upgrade is finished, i run:
> >> portversion -l '<' -v | grep nagios
> >>
> >> but nagios-3.0.4_1 is not present.

[cut make.conf]

> >cvsup18 has the latest.  You're obviously having trouble with the
> >index file, because that (or a database derived therefrom) is what
> >portversion is looking at to determine what's out of date.
> >
> >Check the ports-mgmt/nagios/Makefile to be sure it is in fact showing
> >the new version.
>
> I had the same thing, the makefile has the latest, butpkg_version did not
> detect the new nagios. What I did was going to /usr/port/net-mgmt/nagios
> And did a:
>  make FORCE_PKG_REGISTER=yes install clean
> It installed nagios 3.0.4

Lowell is correct. You need to run `portsdb -uU' after any modification of the 
ports tree for the portupgrade tools to see new versions.

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RE: CVSup update nagios-3.0.4_1

[Johan Hendriks]

>> from web ports I have see   (
>> http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/ports.cgi?query=nagios-3&stype=all&sektion=all)
>> that is relased the version nagios-3.0.4_1 of nagios but I have on my system
>> the version nagios-3.0.3.
>>
>> Now if i try to update nagios from cvsup I run the follow comands:
>>
>> cd /usr/ports/ ; make update ; make fetchindex
>>
>> When the upgrade is finished, i run:
>> portversion -l '<' -v | grep nagios
>>
>> but nagios-3.0.4_1 is not present.
>>
>> This is my /etc/make.conf file:
>>
>> #make.conf#
>> CPUTYPE=i686
>> CFLAGS= -O -pipe
>> INSTALL=install -C
>> SUP_UPDATE= yes
>> SUP=/usr/local/bin/cvsup
>> SUPFLAGS=   -g -L 2
>> SUPHOST=cvsup18.FreeBSD.org
>> SUPFILE=/usr/share/examples/cvsup/stable-supfile
>> PORTSSUPFILE=   /usr/share/examples/cvsup/ports-supfile
>> DOCSUPFILE= /usr/share/examples/cvsup/doc-supfile
>> WRKDIRPREFIX=   /var/tmp
>> WITHOUT_GNOME=  true
>> WANT_OPENSSL_MANPAGES=  true
>> MAKE_IDEA=  YES
>> WITH_OPTIMIZED_CFLAGS=  yes
>> PERL_ARCH=  mach
>> NOPERL= yo
>> NO_PERL=yo
>> NO_PERL_WRAPPER=yo
>> #make.conf#
>>
>>
>> cvsup18.FreeBSD.org has not yet updated ? Have you an idea ?

>cvsup18 has the latest.  You're obviously having trouble with the
>index file, because that (or a database derived therefrom) is what
>portversion is looking at to determine what's out of date.

>Check the ports-mgmt/nagios/Makefile to be sure it is in fact showing
>the new version.

I had the same thing, the makefile has the latest, butpkg_version did not 
detect the new nagios.
What I did was going to /usr/port/net-mgmt/nagios
And did a:
 make FORCE_PKG_REGISTER=yes install clean
It installed nagios 3.0.4

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Re: CVSup update nagios-3.0.4_1

[Lowell Gilbert]

"Gian Paolo Buono" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> from web ports I have see   (
> http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/ports.cgi?query=nagios-3&stype=all&sektion=all)
> that is relased the version nagios-3.0.4_1 of nagios but I have on my system
> the version nagios-3.0.3.
>
> Now if i try to update nagios from cvsup I run the follow comands:
>
> cd /usr/ports/ ; make update ; make fetchindex
>
> When the upgrade is finished, i run:
> portversion -l '<' -v | grep nagios
>
> but nagios-3.0.4_1 is not present.
>
> This is my /etc/make.conf file:
>
> #make.conf#
> CPUTYPE=i686
> CFLAGS= -O -pipe
> INSTALL=install -C
> SUP_UPDATE= yes
> SUP=/usr/local/bin/cvsup
> SUPFLAGS=   -g -L 2
> SUPHOST=cvsup18.FreeBSD.org
> SUPFILE=/usr/share/examples/cvsup/stable-supfile
> PORTSSUPFILE=   /usr/share/examples/cvsup/ports-supfile
> DOCSUPFILE= /usr/share/examples/cvsup/doc-supfile
> WRKDIRPREFIX=   /var/tmp
> WITHOUT_GNOME=  true
> WANT_OPENSSL_MANPAGES=  true
> MAKE_IDEA=  YES
> WITH_OPTIMIZED_CFLAGS=  yes
> PERL_ARCH=  mach
> NOPERL= yo
> NO_PERL=yo
> NO_PERL_WRAPPER=yo
> #make.conf#
>
>
> cvsup18.FreeBSD.org has not yet updated ? Have you an idea ?

cvsup18 has the latest.  You're obviously having trouble with the
index file, because that (or a database derived therefrom) is what
portversion is looking at to determine what's out of date.

Check the ports-mgmt/nagios/Makefile to be sure it is in fact showing
the new version.

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Re: cvsup: local

[Lowell Gilbert]

"fire jotawski" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> i have my small box, 10.3.1.25 ip,  that cvsup-ed files from repository into
> it.  it use cvs-supfile in /usr/share/examples/cvsup/ to collect files.
> now that i want my other machine to cvsup 6.2-release source files from the
> one mentioned above.
>
> my  trial was
>
> cvsupd -b /var/db -c sup
>
> for box, 10.3.1.25 ip,  and for other machine
>
> cvsup -g -L 2 -h 10.3.1.25 sup-file
>
> what i got was  'Server message: Unknown collection "src-all" ' message.
> and later on
>
> Running
> Skipping collection src-all/cvs
> Skipping collection doc-all/cvs
> Shutting down connection to server
> Finished successfully
>
> very strange indeed.
>
> any helps and hints in setting cvsup server would highly be appreciated.

To run cvsupd, you need the whole cvs tree for the collections you're
handling, not just the checked-out files.

Assuming these machines are attached by a protected network, a better
approach (easier, anyway) would probably be to cvsup the changes to
just one machine, then NFS-mount that machine's ports tree from the
other machine.

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Re: cvsup to 7.0 from 5.5?

[Chris Pratt]

On Oct 22, 2008, at 1:06 AM, Aftab Jahan Subedar wrote:


On 10/22/08, Chris Pratt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


How risky is it to jump directly to 7.0 on a 5.5 system?
Upgrade would be by cvsup. I expect mergemaster
issues anyway but this system is relatively vanilla in
it's configuration. It's duty is just rsyncing other servers.
The kernel is GENERIC minus drivers plus ipfw and there are
no kldloads. Can this jump be made? I was hoping to avoid
having to make two major release jumps by doing only one.

Thanks



Not really a bed of roses.
Its a thorny road. You will stumble with packages then gcc version  
then

make.conf then cvsup itself.

Cannot really remember exact thorny issues but I can tell that it  
is not

straight path. Rather Install 7.0 directly then migrate the data.


Thanks for the time to respond. That was enough for me. I'm
half-way to a 6.3 installation, then will take it to 7.0. It's
surprising that I could find no specifics of the issues, only
references that it wasn't a good idea.




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Re: cvsup to 7.0 from 5.5?

[Aftab Jahan Subedar]

On 10/22/08, Chris Pratt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> How risky is it to jump directly to 7.0 on a 5.5 system?
> Upgrade would be by cvsup. I expect mergemaster
> issues anyway but this system is relatively vanilla in
> it's configuration. It's duty is just rsyncing other servers.
> The kernel is GENERIC minus drivers plus ipfw and there are
> no kldloads. Can this jump be made? I was hoping to avoid
> having to make two major release jumps by doing only one.
>
> Thanks
>

Not really a bed of roses.
Its a thorny road. You will stumble with packages then gcc version then
make.conf then cvsup itself.

Cannot really remember exact thorny issues but I can tell that it is not
straight path. Rather Install 7.0 directly then migrate the data.


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Re: cvsup 7.0 STABLE checkout failure

[Peter Jeremy]

On 2008-Oct-11 08:24:51 -0700, Jeremy Chadwick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>csup and cvsup function the same, and they both rely on the same source
>versioning system.

Note that csup only supports a subset of cvsup functionality.  The
most obvious missing feature is CVS mode.

>If you really want Windows and FreeBSD to "play well" together, your
>best option is to run Samba on the FreeBSD box and use UFS2 filesystems,
>then make the Windows machine mount shares from the FreeBSD machine.

I agree in general but this can also lead to similar gotchas on the
Windows side if the Unix side has files differing only in case.

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Re: cvsup 7.0 STABLE checkout failure

[Shakul M Hameed]

On Sun, Oct 12, 2008 at 02:41:34AM +0530, Shakul M Hameed wrote:
> On Sat, Oct 11, 2008 at 08:24:51AM -0700, Jeremy Chadwick wrote:
> > On Sun, Oct 12, 2008 at 02:20:52AM +0530, Shakul M Hameed wrote:
> > > On Sat, Oct 11, 2008 at 07:47:11AM -0700, Jeremy Chadwick wrote:
> > > > Are you sure?  http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/handbook/cvsup.html 
> > > > -- see
> > > > the first "Note:" paragraph. 
> > > 
> > >  As a newbie to FreeBSD, I would rather like to have a single Code 
> > > Versioning system.  
> > >  Several methods put newbies in dilemma to decide upon the best suitable 
> > > procedure. 
> > >  I feel there should be one unique source code management system.
> > 
> > csup and cvsup function the same, and they both rely on the same source
> > versioning system.  However, cvsup requires Modula3/ezm3 (an external
> > dependency), while csup was written entirely in C and comes with the
> > FreeBSD base system.
> > 
> > Does this explain the difference?
> > 
> > Thus: pkg_delete cvsup and ezm3 (if installed) from your system, and
> > start using csup.  :-)
> > 
> > > > I don't see how that would fix or change anything.  In fact, I'm fairly
> > > > certain it doesn't.
> > > > 
> > > > The error you are receiving from cvsup is telling you "I tried to rename
> > > > a file, but couldn't".  This often implies a permissions or ownership
> > > > thing.  Since the directory you're storing stuff in is on an SMB/CIFS
> > > > share, I cannot help but wonder if that's the cause of the problem
> > > > (somehow).
> > > 
> > >  Jeremy, as pointed by "N.J. Mann"  recently in a reply in this thread, 
> > > there is a semicolon in the filename
> > 
> > You mean colon, but I understand what you meant.
> > 
> > >  where the rename faliure happened. Because the file
> > >  "checkouts.cvs:RELENG_7" had ":" in it, which was not created
> > >  subsequently due to SMB limitation for ":"-based filenames.  
> > >
> > >  Because this the cvsup checked-out halted at this point. Morever, as
> > >  indicated by "Sean <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>" the case-insensitiveness
> > >  would lead to missing files. 
> > >
> > > I think, I should format my Network drive to NFS to make it really
> > > UNIX friendly.
> > 
> > NFS is a transport protocol, not a filesystem type.  You don't "format a
> > disk to be NFS-friendly".  You can use NFS with any type of filesystem;
> > UFS/FFS, ZFS, ext2fs, ext3fs, NTFS, MS-DOS, etc...
> > 
> > The problem is that you're using an NTFS across smbmount(8).  NTFS does
> > not support some characters in filenames, and also is case-insensitive.
> > You are being limited by NTFS, and also possibly by smbmount(8).
> > 
> > What you need is to install another disk in your FreeBSD box, or
> > allocate space somewhere on the existing filesystem(s) for your
> > development stuff.
> > 
> > If you really want Windows and FreeBSD to "play well" together, your
> > best option is to run Samba on the FreeBSD box and use UFS2 filesystems,
> > then make the Windows machine mount shares from the FreeBSD machine.
> > The other way around (FreeBSD-->Windows) creates problems like the ones
> > you've experienced.
> 
>  I am never going to do a Windows->FreeBSD mount as it is not required for me.
>  I rather go for extra space on my FreeBSD box. Is there any method to 
> increase
>  the size of my FreeBSD partition??  
> 
>  Thanks,
> Moin
Never mind. I have dropped the plan for new disk in my freeBSD box. Instead, My 
Western Digital Network Harddrive 
exports both SMB and NFS shares. So now I can mount it as NFS. Internally, this 
harddrive is ext2 formatted
and the NFS and SMB exports are exported. 

> > 
> > Hope this helps.  Cheers!
> > 
> > -- 
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> > | Parodius Networking   http://www.parodius.com/ |
> > | UNIX Systems Administrator  Mountain View, CA, USA |
> > | Making life hard for others since 1977.  PGP: 4BD6C0CB |
> 
> -- 
> - Moin

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Re: cvsup 7.0 STABLE checkout failure

[Jeremy Chadwick]

On Sun, Oct 12, 2008 at 02:41:34AM +0530, Shakul M Hameed wrote:
>  I am never going to do a Windows->FreeBSD mount as it is not required for me.
>  I rather go for extra space on my FreeBSD box. Is there any method to 
> increase
>  the size of my FreeBSD partition??  

Do you mean partition as in "I have separate partitions for Windows and
FreeBSD", or do you mean partition as in "I want to grow /usr to be
larger"?

If the lesser: there are commercial utilities out there (such as
Partition Magic) which let you "resize" partitions.  However, I cannot
stress this enough: *back up all of your data* before doing this.  I
have been bit by bugs in PQMAGIC *twice* in my lifetime (the program
panic'ing at 99% and causing me to lose all of my data).

If the latter: some people will tell you about growfs(8), but I'm
not sure how reliable it is.  You'll need to become familiar with
bsdlabel(8) and fdisk(8) before you can use that.

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Re: cvsup 7.0 STABLE checkout failure

[Shakul M Hameed]

On Sat, Oct 11, 2008 at 08:24:51AM -0700, Jeremy Chadwick wrote:
> On Sun, Oct 12, 2008 at 02:20:52AM +0530, Shakul M Hameed wrote:
> > On Sat, Oct 11, 2008 at 07:47:11AM -0700, Jeremy Chadwick wrote:
> > > Are you sure?  http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/handbook/cvsup.html -- 
> > > see
> > > the first "Note:" paragraph. 
> > 
> >  As a newbie to FreeBSD, I would rather like to have a single Code 
> > Versioning system.  
> >  Several methods put newbies in dilemma to decide upon the best suitable 
> > procedure. 
> >  I feel there should be one unique source code management system.
> 
> csup and cvsup function the same, and they both rely on the same source
> versioning system.  However, cvsup requires Modula3/ezm3 (an external
> dependency), while csup was written entirely in C and comes with the
> FreeBSD base system.
> 
> Does this explain the difference?
> 
> Thus: pkg_delete cvsup and ezm3 (if installed) from your system, and
> start using csup.  :-)
> 
> > > I don't see how that would fix or change anything.  In fact, I'm fairly
> > > certain it doesn't.
> > > 
> > > The error you are receiving from cvsup is telling you "I tried to rename
> > > a file, but couldn't".  This often implies a permissions or ownership
> > > thing.  Since the directory you're storing stuff in is on an SMB/CIFS
> > > share, I cannot help but wonder if that's the cause of the problem
> > > (somehow).
> > 
> >  Jeremy, as pointed by "N.J. Mann"  recently in a reply in this thread, 
> > there is a semicolon in the filename
> 
> You mean colon, but I understand what you meant.
> 
> >  where the rename faliure happened. Because the file
> >  "checkouts.cvs:RELENG_7" had ":" in it, which was not created
> >  subsequently due to SMB limitation for ":"-based filenames.  
> >
> >  Because this the cvsup checked-out halted at this point. Morever, as
> >  indicated by "Sean <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>" the case-insensitiveness
> >  would lead to missing files. 
> >
> > I think, I should format my Network drive to NFS to make it really
> > UNIX friendly.
> 
> NFS is a transport protocol, not a filesystem type.  You don't "format a
> disk to be NFS-friendly".  You can use NFS with any type of filesystem;
> UFS/FFS, ZFS, ext2fs, ext3fs, NTFS, MS-DOS, etc...
> 
> The problem is that you're using an NTFS across smbmount(8).  NTFS does
> not support some characters in filenames, and also is case-insensitive.
> You are being limited by NTFS, and also possibly by smbmount(8).
> 
> What you need is to install another disk in your FreeBSD box, or
> allocate space somewhere on the existing filesystem(s) for your
> development stuff.
> 
> If you really want Windows and FreeBSD to "play well" together, your
> best option is to run Samba on the FreeBSD box and use UFS2 filesystems,
> then make the Windows machine mount shares from the FreeBSD machine.
> The other way around (FreeBSD-->Windows) creates problems like the ones
> you've experienced.

 I am never going to do a Windows->FreeBSD mount as it is not required for me.
 I rather go for extra space on my FreeBSD box. Is there any method to increase
 the size of my FreeBSD partition??  

 Thanks,
Moin
> 
> Hope this helps.  Cheers!
> 
> -- 
> | Jeremy Chadwickjdc at parodius.com |
> | Parodius Networking   http://www.parodius.com/ |
> | UNIX Systems Administrator  Mountain View, CA, USA |
> | Making life hard for others since 1977.  PGP: 4BD6C0CB |

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Re: cvsup 7.0 STABLE checkout failure

[Jeremy Chadwick]

On Sun, Oct 12, 2008 at 02:20:52AM +0530, Shakul M Hameed wrote:
> On Sat, Oct 11, 2008 at 07:47:11AM -0700, Jeremy Chadwick wrote:
> > Are you sure?  http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/handbook/cvsup.html -- 
> > see
> > the first "Note:" paragraph. 
> 
>  As a newbie to FreeBSD, I would rather like to have a single Code Versioning 
> system.  
>  Several methods put newbies in dilemma to decide upon the best suitable 
> procedure. 
>  I feel there should be one unique source code management system.

csup and cvsup function the same, and they both rely on the same source
versioning system.  However, cvsup requires Modula3/ezm3 (an external
dependency), while csup was written entirely in C and comes with the
FreeBSD base system.

Does this explain the difference?

Thus: pkg_delete cvsup and ezm3 (if installed) from your system, and
start using csup.  :-)

> > I don't see how that would fix or change anything.  In fact, I'm fairly
> > certain it doesn't.
> > 
> > The error you are receiving from cvsup is telling you "I tried to rename
> > a file, but couldn't".  This often implies a permissions or ownership
> > thing.  Since the directory you're storing stuff in is on an SMB/CIFS
> > share, I cannot help but wonder if that's the cause of the problem
> > (somehow).
> 
>  Jeremy, as pointed by "N.J. Mann"  recently in a reply in this thread, there 
> is a semicolon in the filename

You mean colon, but I understand what you meant.

>  where the rename faliure happened. Because the file
>  "checkouts.cvs:RELENG_7" had ":" in it, which was not created
>  subsequently due to SMB limitation for ":"-based filenames.  
>
>  Because this the cvsup checked-out halted at this point. Morever, as
>  indicated by "Sean <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>" the case-insensitiveness
>  would lead to missing files. 
>
> I think, I should format my Network drive to NFS to make it really
> UNIX friendly.

NFS is a transport protocol, not a filesystem type.  You don't "format a
disk to be NFS-friendly".  You can use NFS with any type of filesystem;
UFS/FFS, ZFS, ext2fs, ext3fs, NTFS, MS-DOS, etc...

The problem is that you're using an NTFS across smbmount(8).  NTFS does
not support some characters in filenames, and also is case-insensitive.
You are being limited by NTFS, and also possibly by smbmount(8).

What you need is to install another disk in your FreeBSD box, or
allocate space somewhere on the existing filesystem(s) for your
development stuff.

If you really want Windows and FreeBSD to "play well" together, your
best option is to run Samba on the FreeBSD box and use UFS2 filesystems,
then make the Windows machine mount shares from the FreeBSD machine.
The other way around (FreeBSD-->Windows) creates problems like the ones
you've experienced.

Hope this helps.  Cheers!

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Re: cvsup 7.0 STABLE checkout failure

[Shakul M Hameed]

On Sat, Oct 11, 2008 at 07:47:11AM -0700, Jeremy Chadwick wrote:
> On Sun, Oct 12, 2008 at 01:21:31AM +0530, Shakul M Hameed wrote:
> > > 1) Your setup looks very custom.  I see SMB/CIFS in use, and you're
> > > using a non-standard directory for the cvsup CVS data (the default is
> >   Yes, I am using mount_smbfs to mount a network harddrive to store all my 
> > devel code.
> >   I don't want to overcrowd the the root disk
> 
> I'm left wondering if there are some permissions or ownership issues as
> a result of this.
> 
> >   I am using X11 cvsup stable-supfile. This is the snapshot of my modified 
> > cvsup file
> > 
> > # Defaults that apply to all the collections
> > #
> > # IMPORTANT: Change the next line to use one of the CVSup mirror sites
> > # listed at http://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/mirrors.html.
> > *default host=cvsup3.de.FreeBSD.org
> > *default base=/usr/home/moin/smbmount/code/SUPDB/
> > *default prefix=/usr/home/moin/smbmount/code/src/
> > # The following line is for 7-stable.  If you want 6-stable, 5-stable,
> > # 4-stable, 3-stable, or 2.2-stable, change to "RELENG_6", "RELENG_5",
> > # "RELENG_4", "RELENG_3", or "RELENG_2_2" respectively.
> > *default release=cvs tag=RELENG_7
> > *default delete use-rel-suffix
> > 
> > # If you seem to be limited by CPU rather than network or disk bandwidth, 
> > try
> > # commenting out the following line.  (Normally, today's CPUs are fast 
> > enough
> > # that you want to run compression.)
> > *default compress
> > 
> > ## Main Source Tree.
> > #
> > # The easiest way to get the main source tree is to use the "src-all"
> > # mega-collection.  It includes all of the individual "src-*" collections.
> > # Please note:  If you want to track -STABLE, leave this uncommented.
> > src-all
> > 
> 
> I have no idea what an "X11 cvsup stable-supfile" is, so I assume you
> mean you've used /usr/share/examples/cvsup/stable-supfile as a template
> supfile, but have your own somewhere else.
> 
> The reason I was confused: you first stated you're using the ones in
> /usr/share/examples/cvsup, and I assumed that mean you were using it
> directly.  You shouldn't modify any files in /usr/share/examples, as
> they will be replaced/overwritten during installworld.
> 
> Your pasted supfile looks fine, however.
> 
> > > 2) Check permissions and ownership of all directories leading up to
> > > /usr/home/moin/smbmount/code/SUPDB/sup/src-all.  Yes, check every single
> > > one.
> 
> Please do this.
> 
> > > 3) Ensure your umask is 022 before starting cvsup.  This could be a side
> > > result of item #2.
> >umask is 0022
> > > 
> > > 4) I'm not sure why you're using cvsup on a 7.x box when csup comes with
> > > the base system.
> > 
> >   I don't know why ? :-) . But I did as it was listed in the FreeBSD 
> > handbook.
> 
> Are you sure?  http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/handbook/cvsup.html -- see
> the first "Note:" paragraph. 

 As a newbie to FreeBSD, I would rather like to have a single Code Versioning 
system.  
 Several methods put newbies in dilemma to decide upon the best suitable 
procedure. 
 I feel there should be one unique source code management system.
> 
> > > I would also try doing this as a last resort:
> > > 
> > > rm -fr /usr/home/moin/smbmount/code/SUPDB/sup/src-all
> > > rm -fr /usr/src/*
> > > csup -h  -L 2 /usr/share/examples/cvsup/stable-supfile
> > 
> 
> > As a lost resort, I did a "cvsup -g -L2 stable-supfile", with just
> > changing the HOST part without changing other entries in
> > stable-supfile, and I was successful to download the code.
> 
> I don't see how that would fix or change anything.  In fact, I'm fairly
> certain it doesn't.
> 
> The error you are receiving from cvsup is telling you "I tried to rename
> a file, but couldn't".  This often implies a permissions or ownership
> thing.  Since the directory you're storing stuff in is on an SMB/CIFS
> share, I cannot help but wonder if that's the cause of the problem
> (somehow).

 Jeremy, as pointed by "N.J. Mann"  recently in a reply in this thread, there 
is a semicolon in the filename
 where the rename faliure happened. Because the file "checkouts.cvs:RELENG_7" 
had ":" in it, which was not created subsequently due to SMB limitation for 
":"-based filenames.  
 Because this the cvsup checked-out halted at this point. Morever, as indicated 
by "Sean <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>" the case-insensitiveness would lead to missing 
files. 
I think, I should format my Network drive to NFS to make it really UNIX 
friendly.

  "N.J. Mann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> quoted 
>
Does the file system that you are using support colons (:) in file
names?  If it is FAT, HPFS or NTFS, or a derivative of one of those, it
probably doesn't and I suspect that is your problem.  Of course I could
be very wrong.  ;-)
>

  - Moin 
> 
> > Currently, I am trying out to figure why the customised way is failin

Re: cvsup 7.0 STABLE checkout failure

[Jeremy Chadwick]

On Sun, Oct 12, 2008 at 01:21:31AM +0530, Shakul M Hameed wrote:
> > 1) Your setup looks very custom.  I see SMB/CIFS in use, and you're
> > using a non-standard directory for the cvsup CVS data (the default is
>   Yes, I am using mount_smbfs to mount a network harddrive to store all my 
> devel code.
>   I don't want to overcrowd the the root disk

I'm left wondering if there are some permissions or ownership issues as
a result of this.

>   I am using X11 cvsup stable-supfile. This is the snapshot of my modified 
> cvsup file
> 
> # Defaults that apply to all the collections
> #
> # IMPORTANT: Change the next line to use one of the CVSup mirror sites
> # listed at http://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/mirrors.html.
> *default host=cvsup3.de.FreeBSD.org
> *default base=/usr/home/moin/smbmount/code/SUPDB/
> *default prefix=/usr/home/moin/smbmount/code/src/
> # The following line is for 7-stable.  If you want 6-stable, 5-stable,
> # 4-stable, 3-stable, or 2.2-stable, change to "RELENG_6", "RELENG_5",
> # "RELENG_4", "RELENG_3", or "RELENG_2_2" respectively.
> *default release=cvs tag=RELENG_7
> *default delete use-rel-suffix
> 
> # If you seem to be limited by CPU rather than network or disk bandwidth, try
> # commenting out the following line.  (Normally, today's CPUs are fast enough
> # that you want to run compression.)
> *default compress
> 
> ## Main Source Tree.
> #
> # The easiest way to get the main source tree is to use the "src-all"
> # mega-collection.  It includes all of the individual "src-*" collections.
> # Please note:  If you want to track -STABLE, leave this uncommented.
> src-all
> 

I have no idea what an "X11 cvsup stable-supfile" is, so I assume you
mean you've used /usr/share/examples/cvsup/stable-supfile as a template
supfile, but have your own somewhere else.

The reason I was confused: you first stated you're using the ones in
/usr/share/examples/cvsup, and I assumed that mean you were using it
directly.  You shouldn't modify any files in /usr/share/examples, as
they will be replaced/overwritten during installworld.

Your pasted supfile looks fine, however.

> > 2) Check permissions and ownership of all directories leading up to
> > /usr/home/moin/smbmount/code/SUPDB/sup/src-all.  Yes, check every single
> > one.

Please do this.

> > 3) Ensure your umask is 022 before starting cvsup.  This could be a side
> > result of item #2.
>umask is 0022
> > 
> > 4) I'm not sure why you're using cvsup on a 7.x box when csup comes with
> > the base system.
> 
>   I don't know why ? :-) . But I did as it was listed in the FreeBSD handbook.

Are you sure?  http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/handbook/cvsup.html -- see
the first "Note:" paragraph.

> > I would also try doing this as a last resort:
> > 
> > rm -fr /usr/home/moin/smbmount/code/SUPDB/sup/src-all
> > rm -fr /usr/src/*
> > csup -h  -L 2 /usr/share/examples/cvsup/stable-supfile
> 

> As a lost resort, I did a "cvsup -g -L2 stable-supfile", with just
> changing the HOST part without changing other entries in
> stable-supfile, and I was successful to download the code.

I don't see how that would fix or change anything.  In fact, I'm fairly
certain it doesn't.

The error you are receiving from cvsup is telling you "I tried to rename
a file, but couldn't".  This often implies a permissions or ownership
thing.  Since the directory you're storing stuff in is on an SMB/CIFS
share, I cannot help but wonder if that's the cause of the problem
(somehow).

> Currently, I am trying out to figure why the customised way is failing.  

I see nothing wrong with your supfile.

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Re: cvsup 7.0 STABLE checkout failure

[Shakul M Hameed]

On Sat, Oct 11, 2008 at 05:38:26AM -0700, Jeremy Chadwick wrote:
> On Sat, Oct 11, 2008 at 11:33:08PM +0530, Shakul M Hameed wrote:
> > Forwarding original msg to freebsd-questions mailing list.
> >  
> > On Sat, Oct 11, 2008 at 11:06:13PM +0530, Shakul M Hameed wrote:
> > > I am trying to download 7.0 stable release through cvsup, but it fails. I 
> > > tried changing the server, but still get those errors. 
> > > 
> > > - ERROR ---
> > > 
> > > Checkout src/share/doc/psd/15.yacc/ss..
> > > Updater failed: Error in
> > > "/usr/home/moin/smbmount/code/SUPDB/sup/src-all/checkouts.cvs:RELENG_7": 
> > > Cannot rename 
> > > "/usr/home/moin/smbmount/code/SUPDB/sup/src-all/#cvs.cvsup-7219.0" to
> > > "/usr/home/moin/smbmount/code/SUPDB/sup/src-all/checkouts.cvs:RELENG_7": 
> > > No such filer or directory
> > > 
> > >  SUPFILE -
> > > default stable-cvsup from /usr/share/examples/cvsup
> > > -- 
> > > 
> > > pls, indicate what i am doing wrong here?
> 
> 1) Your setup looks very custom.  I see SMB/CIFS in use, and you're
> using a non-standard directory for the cvsup CVS data (the default is
  Yes, I am using mount_smbfs to mount a network harddrive to store all my 
devel code.
  I don't want to overcrowd the the root disk

> /usr/sup).  You're either starting cvsup with some custom arguments or
> your supfile *is* in fact modified.

  I am using X11 cvsup stable-supfile. This is the snapshot of my modified 
cvsup file

# Defaults that apply to all the collections
#
# IMPORTANT: Change the next line to use one of the CVSup mirror sites
# listed at http://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/mirrors.html.
*default host=cvsup3.de.FreeBSD.org
*default base=/usr/home/moin/smbmount/code/SUPDB/
*default prefix=/usr/home/moin/smbmount/code/src/
# The following line is for 7-stable.  If you want 6-stable, 5-stable,
# 4-stable, 3-stable, or 2.2-stable, change to "RELENG_6", "RELENG_5",
# "RELENG_4", "RELENG_3", or "RELENG_2_2" respectively.
*default release=cvs tag=RELENG_7
*default delete use-rel-suffix

# If you seem to be limited by CPU rather than network or disk bandwidth, try
# commenting out the following line.  (Normally, today's CPUs are fast enough
# that you want to run compression.)
*default compress

## Main Source Tree.
#
# The easiest way to get the main source tree is to use the "src-all"
# mega-collection.  It includes all of the individual "src-*" collections.
# Please note:  If you want to track -STABLE, leave this uncommented.
src-all

 
  
> 
> 2) Check permissions and ownership of all directories leading up to
> /usr/home/moin/smbmount/code/SUPDB/sup/src-all.  Yes, check every single
> one.
> 
> 3) Ensure your umask is 022 before starting cvsup.  This could be a side
> result of item #2.
   umask is 0022
> 
> 4) I'm not sure why you're using cvsup on a 7.x box when csup comes with
> the base system.

  I don't know why ? :-) . But I did as it was listed in the FreeBSD handbook.
> 
> I would also try doing this as a last resort:
> 
> rm -fr /usr/home/moin/smbmount/code/SUPDB/sup/src-all
> rm -fr /usr/src/*
> csup -h  -L 2 /usr/share/examples/cvsup/stable-supfile

As a lost resort, I did a "cvsup -g -L2 stable-supfile", with just changing the 
HOST part without changing other entries in stable-supfile, and I was 
successful to download the code.

Currently, I am trying out to figure why the customised way is failing.  


 - Moin

> 
> However, with regards to use of /usr/share/examples/cvsup/stable-supfile
> see my above comment; yours may be modified.
> 
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Re: cvsup 7.0 STABLE checkout failure

[Jeremy Chadwick]

On Sat, Oct 11, 2008 at 11:33:08PM +0530, Shakul M Hameed wrote:
> Forwarding original msg to freebsd-questions mailing list.
>  
> On Sat, Oct 11, 2008 at 11:06:13PM +0530, Shakul M Hameed wrote:
> > I am trying to download 7.0 stable release through cvsup, but it fails. I 
> > tried changing the server, but still get those errors. 
> > 
> > - ERROR ---
> > 
> > Checkout src/share/doc/psd/15.yacc/ss..
> > Updater failed: Error in
> > "/usr/home/moin/smbmount/code/SUPDB/sup/src-all/checkouts.cvs:RELENG_7": 
> > Cannot rename 
> > "/usr/home/moin/smbmount/code/SUPDB/sup/src-all/#cvs.cvsup-7219.0" to
> > "/usr/home/moin/smbmount/code/SUPDB/sup/src-all/checkouts.cvs:RELENG_7": No 
> > such filer or directory
> > 
> >  SUPFILE -
> > default stable-cvsup from /usr/share/examples/cvsup
> > -- 
> > 
> > pls, indicate what i am doing wrong here?

1) Your setup looks very custom.  I see SMB/CIFS in use, and you're
using a non-standard directory for the cvsup CVS data (the default is
/usr/sup).  You're either starting cvsup with some custom arguments or
your supfile *is* in fact modified.

2) Check permissions and ownership of all directories leading up to
/usr/home/moin/smbmount/code/SUPDB/sup/src-all.  Yes, check every single
one.

3) Ensure your umask is 022 before starting cvsup.  This could be a side
result of item #2.

4) I'm not sure why you're using cvsup on a 7.x box when csup comes with
the base system.

I would also try doing this as a last resort:

rm -fr /usr/home/moin/smbmount/code/SUPDB/sup/src-all
rm -fr /usr/src/*
csup -h  -L 2 /usr/share/examples/cvsup/stable-supfile

However, with regards to use of /usr/share/examples/cvsup/stable-supfile
see my above comment; yours may be modified.

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Re: cvsup 7.0 STABLE checkout failure

[Shakul M Hameed]

Forwarding original msg to freebsd-questions mailing list.
 
On Sat, Oct 11, 2008 at 11:06:13PM +0530, Shakul M Hameed wrote:
> I am trying to download 7.0 stable release through cvsup, but it fails. I 
> tried changing the server, but still get those errors. 
> 
> - ERROR ---
> 
> Checkout src/share/doc/psd/15.yacc/ss..
> Updater failed: Error in
> "/usr/home/moin/smbmount/code/SUPDB/sup/src-all/checkouts.cvs:RELENG_7": 
> Cannot rename 
> "/usr/home/moin/smbmount/code/SUPDB/sup/src-all/#cvs.cvsup-7219.0" to
> "/usr/home/moin/smbmount/code/SUPDB/sup/src-all/checkouts.cvs:RELENG_7": No 
> such filer or directory
> 
>  SUPFILE -
> default stable-cvsup from /usr/share/examples/cvsup
> -- 
> 
> pls, indicate what i am doing wrong here?
> 
> - Moin

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Re: cvsup mirrors

[Brian A. Seklecki]

Or...contact the maintainer:

http://www.dslreports.com/profile/191119

$ host cvsup1.ca.FreeBSD.org
cvsup1.ca.FreeBSD.org is an alias for less.cogeco.net.
less.cogeco.net has address 24.226.6.67

http://less.cogeco.net/

Many broken URLS.

~BAS


On Fri, 12 Sep 2008, Michael P. Soulier wrote:


I found this 
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/handbook/cvsup.html#CVSUP-MIRRORS

and it lists one for me in Canada.

cvsup1.ca.freebsd.org

Unfortunately, it doesn't have RELENG_6 on it. cvsup says it's not there.

Does the mirrors list need an update?

Thanks,
Mike
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Re: cvsup mirrors

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On September 12, 2008 12:09:12 pm Michael P. Soulier wrote:
> I found this
> http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/handbook/cvsup.html#CVSUP-MIRRORS
>
> and it lists one for me in Canada.
>
> cvsup1.ca.freebsd.org
>
> Unfortunately, it doesn't have RELENG_6 on it. cvsup says it's not there.
>
> Does the mirrors list need an update?
>
> Thanks,
> Mike

It could be the mirrors need updating, if you are looking for a Canadian cvsup 
server, try freebsd.articnetwork.ca.


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Re: cvsup RELENG_6_3 to RELENG_7 impaired gnome

[Jason C. Wells]

Try downloading the binary packages for 7.0 that you need and install 
them.  That would be fastest.


FreeBSD doesn't claim to maintain binary (library?) compatibility across 
major releases.  I personally have never had a problem, but I consider 
that dumb luck.


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Re: cvsup will not speak to me :Connection refused

[Jim Pazarena]

Lowell Gilbert wrote:


I receive every time:
Cannot connect to cvsup17.us.FreeSD.org: Connection refused

I would appreciate anyone's suggestion on what to try.
signed: perplexed.


Try netcat or telnet to see what you get when a connections to cvsupd
is initiated...


I found a local firewall in place which was blocking this. I apologize for
the bandwidth
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Re: cvsup will not speak to me :Connection refused

[Lowell Gilbert]

Jim Pazarena <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I have a bank of 8 servers, all which do cvsup regularly for ports.
>
> I am recently going thru an upgrade to FreeBSD 7.0, and in a cvsup
> with server #5, I get :Connection refused
>
> I cannot figure out why this machine would be refused, when the other
> 4 upgrades to 7.0 work as expected. I use the same routine to do all my 
> cvsuping.
>
> I thought perhaps the IP # of this machine has been blackballed, so I changed
> it, and I still get refused.
>
> I run:  cvsup -g -L2 ports-supfile
>
>   I use  cvsup17.us.FreebBSD.org (altho I have tried many incantations 
> cvsup1, 2, etc).
>
> I receive every time:
> Cannot connect to cvsup17.us.FreeSD.org: Connection refused
>
> I would appreciate anyone's suggestion on what to try.
> signed: perplexed.

Try netcat or telnet to see what you get when a connections to cvsupd
is initiated...
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Re: CVSup update or upgrade

[Chris]

On Fri, 1 Feb 2008 14:12:43 +0100
Ruben de Groot <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Thu, Jan 31, 2008 at 07:57:49PM -0600, Chris typed:

> 23.2.2.1 What Is FreeBSD-STABLE?
> FreeBSD-STABLE is our development branch from which major releases
> are made. Changes go into this branch at a different pace, and with
> the general assumption that they have first gone into FreeBSD-CURRENT
> for testing. This is still a development branch, however, and this
> means that at any given time, the sources for FreeBSD-STABLE may or
> may not be suitable for any particular purpose. It is simply another
> engineering development track, not a resource for end-users.
> 
> RELENG_6 is STABLE
> RELENG_6_3 is for security fixes
> 

I stand corrected.

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Re: CVSup update or upgrade

[Mel]

On Friday 01 February 2008 00:47:12 Allen wrote:

> Now, this wouldn't work for some reason or another, but the system
> seemed to be doing just fine. I did uname -a and sure enough I had
> 6.3 Stable going. However, when typing kdm to load up that so I can
> use a gui, it no longer loads, at all, it pops up for a split second to
> just stop totally, and then gives me a message about the hostname.
>
> I thought it was odd, and XDM actually loads, but won't load X
> itself as it too goes out with errors about hostname.

So the hostname isn't set, the clue would be that machine presents itself 
as "amnesia".
Check /etc/rc.conf so see if you set a hostname or if you use DHCP, check if 
the dhcp server gives you one.

How this got lost in the upgrade, I don't know. mergemaster doesn't 
touch /etc/rc.conf, only /etc/defaults/rc.conf.

> I've been looking on FreeBSD.org but I don't fnid anything about this,
> but when did FreeBSD go from .tgz files to .tbz? I'm just wondering
> what happened as I thought it was atypo at first and realized every
> one of my books said .tbz and so did my screen heh.

When libbz2 was brought into the base system, don't recall when exactly, 
somewhere around 5.0 I guess. tgz use gzip compression, tbz use bzip2 
compression, which generally compresses better, but uses more CPU-time.

FreeBSD can still read both though, it's just a change of default.

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Re: CVSup update or upgrade

[Erik Trulsson]

On Fri, Feb 01, 2008 at 09:45:30AM -0500, Gerard wrote:
> On Fri, 1 Feb 2008 15:14:59 +0100
> Erik Trulsson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> {snip]
> 
> > Going to single user mode is the less important part of rebooting.
> > The other part is that after the reboot you will be running the *new*
> > kernel which might possibly be needed for a successful installworld.
> > It is also a good test that the new kernel actually work.  If the new
> > kernel should fail to work it is fairly easy to use the old kernel
> > instead.  If you have already overwritten all userland programs with
> > ones which require the new (non-working) kernel it can be difficult
> > to recover from.
> > 
> > Just going to single user mode without rebooting misses the point.
> > The important thing is not to go into single user mode, it is to
> > *reboot* into single user mode (or even into multi-user mode if you
> > want to, but there are fewer things that can go wrong when going to
> > single user mode.) 
> 
> From:
> 
> http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/makeworld.html

>From the same document:

  23.4.9 Reboot into Single User Mode

  You should reboot into single user mode to test the new kernel works. Do
  this by following the instructions in Section 23.4.5

/usr/src/UPDATING  (which contains the really official instructions for how
to upgrade) also tells you to reboot.

Just going into single user mode without rebooting is not very useful.
The section of the handbook you quote below should probably be rewritten
somewhat.



> 
> 23.4.5 Drop to Single User Mode
> 
> You may want to compile the system in single user mode. Apart from the
> obvious benefit of making things go slightly faster, reinstalling the
> system will touch a lot of important system files, all the standard
> system binaries, libraries, include files and so on. Changing these on
> a running system (particularly if you have active users on the system
> at the time) is asking for trouble.
> 
> Another method is to compile the system in multi-user mode, and then
> drop into single user mode for the installation. If you would like to
> do it this way, simply hold off on the following steps until the build
> has completed. You can postpone dropping to single user mode until you
> have to installkernel or installworld.
> 
> As the superuser, you can execute:
> # shutdown now
> 
> from a running system, which will drop it to single user mode.
> 
> -- 
> 
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> 
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> 
>   Robert Heinlein
> 



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Re: CVSup update or upgrade

[Gerard]

On Fri, 1 Feb 2008 15:14:59 +0100
Erik Trulsson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

{snip]

> Going to single user mode is the less important part of rebooting.
> The other part is that after the reboot you will be running the *new*
> kernel which might possibly be needed for a successful installworld.
> It is also a good test that the new kernel actually work.  If the new
> kernel should fail to work it is fairly easy to use the old kernel
> instead.  If you have already overwritten all userland programs with
> ones which require the new (non-working) kernel it can be difficult
> to recover from.
> 
> Just going to single user mode without rebooting misses the point.
> The important thing is not to go into single user mode, it is to
> *reboot* into single user mode (or even into multi-user mode if you
> want to, but there are fewer things that can go wrong when going to
> single user mode.) 

From:

http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/makeworld.html

23.4.5 Drop to Single User Mode

You may want to compile the system in single user mode. Apart from the
obvious benefit of making things go slightly faster, reinstalling the
system will touch a lot of important system files, all the standard
system binaries, libraries, include files and so on. Changing these on
a running system (particularly if you have active users on the system
at the time) is asking for trouble.

Another method is to compile the system in multi-user mode, and then
drop into single user mode for the installation. If you would like to
do it this way, simply hold off on the following steps until the build
has completed. You can postpone dropping to single user mode until you
have to installkernel or installworld.

As the superuser, you can execute:
# shutdown now

from a running system, which will drop it to single user mode.

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Re: CVSup update or upgrade

[Erik Trulsson]

On Fri, Feb 01, 2008 at 07:41:24AM -0500, Gerard wrote:
> On Thu, 31 Jan 2008 19:57:49 -0600
> Chris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > Assuming you went from 6.3-RELEASE to 6.3-STABLE and also assuming you
> > do not have customization in /etc - here's what I do...
> > 
> > After a cvsup of the src tree (ensuring I want the STABLE branch
> > (*default release=cvs tag=RELENG_6) 
> > 
> > # cd /usr/src
> > # make buildworld
> > # make buildkernel KERNCONF=GENERIC (Assuming you use GENERIC)
> > # make installkernel KERNCONF=GENERIC (Assuming you use GENERIC)
> > # shutdown -r now (no need for Single-User Mode if YOU are the only
> > user)
> 
> You can just type: "shutdown now" to go into single user mode. It
> avoids the reboot sequence.

Going to single user mode is the less important part of rebooting.
The other part is that after the reboot you will be running the *new* kernel
which might possibly be needed for a successful installworld.  It is also a
good test that the new kernel actually work.  If the new kernel should fail
to work it is fairly easy to use the old kernel instead.  If you have
already overwritten all userland programs with ones which require the new
(non-working) kernel it can be difficult to recover from.

Just going to single user mode without rebooting misses the point.
The important thing is not to go into single user mode, it is to *reboot*
into single user mode (or even into multi-user mode if you want to, but
there are fewer things that can go wrong when going to single user mode.) 



> 
> > # cd /usr/src
> > # make installworld
> 
> I prefer to use the following after "make installworld"
> 
>   mergemaster -i -v -U
> 
> Read the man pages for mergemaster for further details.
> 
> > # shutdown -r now
> 
> After rebooting, you might want to cd to the /usr/src directory and
> run:  "make delete-old-libs" to clear out any garbage. It is not
> actually required however.
> 
> -- 
> 
> Gerard
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> 
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> 
>   John Maynard Keynes
> 



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Re: CVSup update or upgrade

[Ruben de Groot]

On Thu, Jan 31, 2008 at 07:57:49PM -0600, Chris typed:

> NOTE: I don't use mergemaster unless I go from say 6.3 to 7.0

Not wise. New features and fixes are applied to configuration files and
rc scripts regu;arly. You'll probably miss them.

> STABLE is the security fix branch.

Wrong. According to the handbook:

23.2.2.1 What Is FreeBSD-STABLE?
FreeBSD-STABLE is our development branch from which major releases are 
made. Changes go into this branch at a different pace, and with the general
assumption that they have first gone into FreeBSD-CURRENT for testing. This 
is still a development branch, however, and this means that at any given 
time, the sources for FreeBSD-STABLE may or may not be suitable for any 
particular purpose. It is simply another engineering development track, not 
a resource for end-users.

RELENG_6 is STABLE
RELENG_6_3 is for security fixes

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Re: CVSup update or upgrade

[Gerard]

On Thu, 31 Jan 2008 19:57:49 -0600
Chris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Assuming you went from 6.3-RELEASE to 6.3-STABLE and also assuming you
> do not have customization in /etc - here's what I do...
> 
> After a cvsup of the src tree (ensuring I want the STABLE branch
> (*default release=cvs tag=RELENG_6) 
> 
> # cd /usr/src
> # make buildworld
> # make buildkernel KERNCONF=GENERIC (Assuming you use GENERIC)
> # make installkernel KERNCONF=GENERIC (Assuming you use GENERIC)
> # shutdown -r now (no need for Single-User Mode if YOU are the only
> user)

You can just type: "shutdown now" to go into single user mode. It
avoids the reboot sequence.

> # cd /usr/src
> # make installworld

I prefer to use the following after "make installworld"

mergemaster -i -v -U

Read the man pages for mergemaster for further details.

> # shutdown -r now

After rebooting, you might want to cd to the /usr/src directory and
run:"make delete-old-libs" to clear out any garbage. It is not
actually required however.

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Re: CVSup update or upgrade

[Chris]

On Fri, 1 Feb 2008 02:21:42 + (UTC)
Jona Joachim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On 2008-02-01, Chris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Thu, 31 Jan 2008 18:47:12 -0500
> > Allen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >> Hello,
> >> 
> >> I've been reading over my library of FreeBSD books, which I may
> >> add is impressive due to me buying EVERY book available on
> >> Freebsdmall and also buying the PowerPak to make sure my Library
> >> is complete, and also I've been reading the freebsd.org docs
> >> because I'm working on getting an upgrade to work properly.
> >> 
> >> Here is what happened:
> >> 
> >> I did as the website said and changed the cvsup example file which
> >> is the one I'm using, to a FreeBSD cvsup server, left most of it
> >> alone, because I wanted to use most packages, so I wanted
> >> basically every app available, and when rebooting, after doing
> >> this:
> >> 
> >> # make buildworld
> >> # make buildkernel
> >> # make installkernel
> >> # reboot
> >
> > Assuming you went from 6.3-RELEASE to 6.3-STABLE and also assuming
> > you do not have customization in /etc - here's what I do...
> >
> > After a cvsup of the src tree (ensuring I want the STABLE branch
> > (*default release=cvs tag=RELENG_6) 
> >
> > # cd /usr/src
> > # make buildworld
> > # make buildkernel KERNCONF=GENERIC (Assuming you use GENERIC)
> > # make installkernel KERNCONF=GENERIC (Assuming you use GENERIC)
> > # shutdown -r now (no need for Single-User Mode if YOU are the only
> > user)
> 
> Sorry but you're giving wrong advice here.
> *Always* drop to single user mode.
> You are almost never the only user on your machine when you're in
> multiuser mode. There will at least be root an your user account and
> probably others.

I'm not giving advice - I'm simply stating what *I* do. See my words
below.

> > Assuming you went from 6.3-RELEASE to 6.3-STABLE and also assuming
> > you do not have customization in /etc - here's what I do...

Note the "here's what I do..." That does not sound like I'm advising
any user to do what I do - only stating things based on my experiences.

... as to Single-User mode and mergemaster, here again, I can only
comment on what I do and my experiences. I myself have never had a
system failure due to not running mergemaster. Furthermore, I have
never had issues not booting into Single-User mode to update my boxen.
Of course, your mileage may vary. 


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Re: CVSup update or upgrade

[Jona Joachim]

On 2008-02-01, Chris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Thu, 31 Jan 2008 18:47:12 -0500
> Allen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>> 
>> I've been reading over my library of FreeBSD books, which I may add is
>> impressive due to me buying EVERY book available on Freebsdmall and
>> also buying the PowerPak to make sure my Library is complete, and
>> also I've been reading the freebsd.org docs because I'm working on
>> getting an upgrade to work properly.
>> 
>> Here is what happened:
>> 
>> I did as the website said and changed the cvsup example file which is
>> the one I'm using, to a FreeBSD cvsup server, left most of it alone,
>> because I wanted to use most packages, so I wanted basically every app
>> available, and when rebooting, after doing this:
>> 
>> # make buildworld
>> # make buildkernel
>> # make installkernel
>> # reboot
>
> Assuming you went from 6.3-RELEASE to 6.3-STABLE and also assuming you
> do not have customization in /etc - here's what I do...
>
> After a cvsup of the src tree (ensuring I want the STABLE branch
> (*default release=cvs tag=RELENG_6) 
>
> # cd /usr/src
> # make buildworld
> # make buildkernel KERNCONF=GENERIC (Assuming you use GENERIC)
> # make installkernel KERNCONF=GENERIC (Assuming you use GENERIC)
> # shutdown -r now (no need for Single-User Mode if YOU are the only
> user)

Sorry but you're giving wrong advice here.
*Always* drop to single user mode.
You are almost never the only user on your machine when you're in multiuser
mode. There will at least be root an your user account and probably others.

> # cd /usr/src
> # make installworld
> # shutdown -r now
>
> NOTE: I don't use mergemaster unless I go from say 6.3 to 7.0

*Always* use mergemaster. Default configuration is constantly changing slightly.
It never happened to me that mergemaster had nothing to and I upgrade somewhat
regularly. Not running mergemaster will sooner or later result in a broken
system. It can be argued whether `mergemaster -p` has to be run everytime but
just run it, it will never hurt you.
I really recommend following the handbook step by step for this task unless you
know exactly what you're doing.

>> I booted in single user mode and tried this:
>> 
>> # mergemaster -p
>> # make installworld
>> # mergemaster
>> # reboot
>> 
>> Now, this wouldn't work for some reason or another, but the system
>> seemed to be doing just fine. I did uname -a and sure enough I had 
>> 6.3 Stable going. However, when typing kdm to load up that so I can 
>> use a gui, it no longer loads, at all, it pops up for a split second
>> to just stop totally, and then gives me a message about the hostname.
>
> See above for your RELENG Tag
>
>
>> I thought it was odd, and XDM actually loads, but won't load X 
>> itself as it too goes out with errors about hostname.
>
> You may need to update your ports tree and your installed packages
> since you went to STABLE
>
>> I don't have the exact message which I know is bad form on my part,
>> but I decided to just try updating again as I was kind of wondering
>> what RELEASE is like instead of stable.
>
> STABLE is the security fix branch.
>
> *snip*
>
> Someone else may follow up the rest with you.
>

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Re: CVSup update or upgrade

[Chris]

On Thu, 31 Jan 2008 18:47:12 -0500
Allen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hello,
> 
> I've been reading over my library of FreeBSD books, which I may add is
> impressive due to me buying EVERY book available on Freebsdmall and
> also buying the PowerPak to make sure my Library is complete, and
> also I've been reading the freebsd.org docs because I'm working on
> getting an upgrade to work properly.
> 
> Here is what happened:
> 
> I did as the website said and changed the cvsup example file which is
> the one I'm using, to a FreeBSD cvsup server, left most of it alone,
> because I wanted to use most packages, so I wanted basically every app
> available, and when rebooting, after doing this:
> 
> # make buildworld
> # make buildkernel
> # make installkernel
> # reboot

Assuming you went from 6.3-RELEASE to 6.3-STABLE and also assuming you
do not have customization in /etc - here's what I do...

After a cvsup of the src tree (ensuring I want the STABLE branch
(*default release=cvs tag=RELENG_6) 

# cd /usr/src
# make buildworld
# make buildkernel KERNCONF=GENERIC (Assuming you use GENERIC)
# make installkernel KERNCONF=GENERIC (Assuming you use GENERIC)
# shutdown -r now (no need for Single-User Mode if YOU are the only
user)

# cd /usr/src
# make installworld
# shutdown -r now

NOTE: I don't use mergemaster unless I go from say 6.3 to 7.0

> I booted in single user mode and tried this:
> 
> # mergemaster -p
> # make installworld
> # mergemaster
> # reboot
> 
> Now, this wouldn't work for some reason or another, but the system
> seemed to be doing just fine. I did uname -a and sure enough I had 
> 6.3 Stable going. However, when typing kdm to load up that so I can 
> use a gui, it no longer loads, at all, it pops up for a split second
> to just stop totally, and then gives me a message about the hostname.

See above for your RELENG Tag


> I thought it was odd, and XDM actually loads, but won't load X 
> itself as it too goes out with errors about hostname.

You may need to update your ports tree and your installed packages
since you went to STABLE

> I don't have the exact message which I know is bad form on my part,
> but I decided to just try updating again as I was kind of wondering
> what RELEASE is like instead of stable.

STABLE is the security fix branch.

*snip*

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Re: cvsup not getting 'everything' with standard-supfile?

[Max N. Boyarov]

> "SF" == Steve Franks writes:

 SF>  I see folks talking about building snd_hda on 6.2, but when I cvsup,
 SF> /usr/src/sys/modules/sound/driver/hda doesn't exist.  I'm using an
 SF> unmodified (except for the url) standard-supfile, which has "src-all"
 SF> in big letters uncommented at the top, so I find the lack of anything
 SF> a bit surprising - any ideas?

 snd_hda don't present in RELENG_6_2

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Re: cvsup not getting 'everything' with standard-supfile?

[Manolis Kiagias]

Steve Franks wrote:
> I see folks talking about building snd_hda on 6.2, but when I cvsup,
> /usr/src/sys/modules/sound/driver/hda doesn't exist.  I'm using an
> unmodified (except for the url) standard-supfile, which has "src-all"
> in big letters uncommented at the top, so I find the lack of anything
> a bit surprising - any ideas?
>
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The standard supfile will only get you to 6.2-RELEASE-p9
The snd_hda driver is only present in 6.2-STABLE (use stable-supfile)
and, of course 6.3-RC and 7.0-BETA
If you do not wish to move to 6.2-STABLE and make buildworld and all
this, you may wish to get the ready module for 6.2-RELEASE and load it
via /boot/loader.conf

More instructions at this older post:

http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2007-August/155261.html

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Re: cvsup not getting 'everything' with standard-supfile?

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On Wed, Dec 19, 2007 at 03:43:21PM -0700, Steve Franks wrote:
> I see folks talking about building snd_hda on 6.2, but when I cvsup,
> /usr/src/sys/modules/sound/driver/hda doesn't exist.  I'm using an
> unmodified (except for the url) standard-supfile, which has "src-all"
> in big letters uncommented at the top, so I find the lack of anything
> a bit surprising - any ideas?
> 
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That's odd, I usually get everything in one go (I usually just copy the 
example files from /usr/share/examples/cvsup - ports-supfile and 
stable-supfile), chnage the mirror where it gets the source from, and 
csup it.

Is it possible the site you cvsup from doesn't have all the code (not 
synchronized properly) or that there's some screwup setting on your 
standard supfile?  I'm just throwing ideas out into the wind, but those 
two possibilies stike me as a possible reason at the time of this 
writing.


Russell Doucette

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Re: cvsup-mirror: clients never get past 'running' (server 100% idle)

[Hugo Silva]

Hugo Silva wrote:

Hello,

I've set up a local cvsup mirror for a freebsd server farm but I'm 
having some trouble making it work.


I went with all the defaults on the install, only skipping gnats www 
and mail.


The initial update went well, took awhile but I have all files in 
place now.


However, when connecting to get src or ports, it'll never get past

/usr/src# make update
--
>>> Running /usr/bin/csup
--
Parsing supfile "/root/cvsup/standard-supfile"
Connecting to 172.16.100.22
Connected to 172.16.100.22
Server software version: SNAP_16_1h
Negotiating file attribute support
Exchanging collection information
Establishing multiplexed-mode data connection
Running


73163   3002  1  440  7592K  3812K select 0   0:02  0.00% cvsupd

It just stays idle forever...

3002 73163  0.0  0.2  7592  3812  ??  IJ7:07PM   0:01.58 
/usr/local/sbin/cvsupd -e -C 10 -l @daemon -b /usr/local/etc/cvsup -s 
sup.client




FreeBSD 7.0-BETA4/amd64, cvsupd is running inside a jail, on ZFS.

What am I missing ?

Regards,

Hugo


Proto Recv-Q Send-Q  Local Address  Foreign Address(state)
tcp4   0  16479  172.16.100.22.5999 172.16.100.92.61642
ESTABLISHED



Send-Q is 16479 on the server as soon as the client gets to the 
"Running" phase (and stalls), the client sees:


tcp4   0  0  172.16.100.92.61642172.16.100.22.5999 
ESTABLISHED


I'm baffled and don't have much free time to chase this down right now, 
does this ring a bell to anyone at all ? No firewalls are running on 
either host, and they're in the same subnet..


Best regards,

Hugo
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Re: CVSup question

[RW]

On Tue, 11 Dec 2007 17:34:19 -0500
"Aryeh M. Friedman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

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> Simon Gao wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I wonder if just having port-all is enough in cvsupfile as follow.
> > If I just want to keep ports tree up to date, do I really need to
> > have '"src-all"?
> > ...

> Yes and oyu don't need tag=. also since that is the default value


And that's yes to: "port-all is enough", not yes to "do I really need
to have src-all?"


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Re: CVSup question

[Aryeh M. Friedman]

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> Hi,
>
> I wonder if just having port-all is enough in cvsupfile as follow.
> If I just want to keep ports tree up to date, do I really need to
> have '"src-all"?
>
>
> *default host=cvsup9.freebsd.org *default base=/usr *default
> prefix=/usr *default release=cvs tag=RELENG_4_11 *default delete
> use-rel-suffix compress # src-all ports-all tag=.
>

Yes and oyu don't need tag=. also since that is the default value
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Re: cvsup-mirror several questions

[Aryeh M. Friedman]

>
> Hi Aryeh,
>
> two things:
>
> 1) is your clock set correctly? I received your mail *very * out of
> order on the mailing list.

The time is right but the TZ is wrong everytime I attempt to correct the
TZ the time gets readjusted... specifically my clock says:

Tue Oct 16 11:10:33 UTC 2007

right now but if I set it to EDT will say:

Tue Oct 16 07:10:33 EDT 2007

btw I use tzsetup any help would be nice but since I do nothing that
is TZ sensitive I just live with it.


>
> 2) A thread that just happened started addressing some of these
> questions. It's available here:
> http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2007-October/160307.html

I don't have a browser setup right now but if I remember right that is a
thread I started when deciding how to install cvsup and if I remember
right the advice was to do what I just did and go with defaults only.
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Re: cvsup-mirror several questions

[James]

On Tue, 2007-10-16 at 10:39 +, Aryeh M. Friedman wrote:

> I have setup cvsup-mirror with default settings and I have some questions:
> 
> 1. What cvsup host should I use as my upstream (cvsup.master.freebsd.org
> [if I got the name wrong sorry but see next sentence] is an invalid name
> according to named).Currently I pointed it to cvsup10.us.freebsd.org
> and successfully ran update.sh (i.e. completely populated /home/ncvs).
> 
> 2. When I run cvsupd with default settings it says it can't find any
> collections (cvsup -h localhost /usr/share/example/cvsup/ports-supfile)
> 
> 3. For doing cvsup updates for the local host is cvsup or straight cvs
> better and if the later what is the correct config to use?
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Hi Aryeh,

two things:

1) is your clock set correctly? I received your mail *very * out of
order on the mailing list.

2) A thread that just happened started addressing some of these
questions. It's available here:
http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2007-October/160307.html

You might find that a nice place to start.


James

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Re: CVSup

[Peter Boosten]

Mel wrote:
> On Saturday 01 September 2007 12:31:33 Grant Peel wrote:
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Can I use
>>
>> src-all and ports-all in the same supfile?
>>
> Nope. But you can update them at the same time if you don't mind the IO and 
> network traffic:
> csup /path/to/ports-supfile & csup /path/to/src-supfile

nonsense... yes you can.

from my supfile:

*default release=cvs tag=RELENG_6_2
src-all
ports-all tag=.

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Re: CVSup

[OutBackDingo]

Umm not sure why you think you cant becuase i do it now

just 

have 

src-all
ports-all

On Sat, 2007-09-01 at 13:03 +0200, Mel wrote:
> On Saturday 01 September 2007 12:31:33 Grant Peel wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > Can I use
> >
> > src-all and ports-all in the same supfile?
> >
> Nope. But you can update them at the same time if you don't mind the IO and 
> network traffic:
> csup /path/to/ports-supfile & csup /path/to/src-supfile
> 

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Re: CVSup tag version.

[Mel]

On Saturday 01 September 2007 12:52:03 Grant Peel wrote:

> I have three servers running FreeBSD 6.1
>
> I want to update them tonight, and am wondering which tag to use.
>
> I want them to upgrade to the latested released version of 6.2 (not cutting
> edge).
>
> tag = RELENG_6_2

That's 6.2-RELEASE + security fixes, the one you want.

> RELENG_6

That's 6.2 + whatever has been done to get to 6.3.


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Re: CVSup

[OutBackDingo]

Umm not sure why you think you cant becuase i do it now

just 

have 

src-all
ports-all

On Sat, 2007-09-01 at 13:03 +0200, Mel wrote:
> On Saturday 01 September 2007 12:31:33 Grant Peel wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > Can I use
> >
> > src-all and ports-all in the same supfile?
> >
> Nope. But you can update them at the same time if you don't mind the IO and 
> network traffic:
> csup /path/to/ports-supfile & csup /path/to/src-supfile
> 

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Re: CVSup

[Grant Peel]

Thanks Mel,

for the ports-supfile, for the tag, should I use '.' or RELENG_6_2

Reqading the documentation I am little confused.

-Grant

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  On Saturday 01 September 2007 12:31:33 Grant Peel wrote:
  > Hi all,
  >
  > Can I use
  >
  > src-all and ports-all in the same supfile?
  >
  Nope. But you can update them at the same time if you don't mind the IO and 
  network traffic:
  csup /path/to/ports-supfile & csup /path/to/src-supfile

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Re: CVSup

[Mel]

On Saturday 01 September 2007 12:31:33 Grant Peel wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> Can I use
>
> src-all and ports-all in the same supfile?
>
Nope. But you can update them at the same time if you don't mind the IO and 
network traffic:
csup /path/to/ports-supfile & csup /path/to/src-supfile

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Re: cvsup question

[RW]

On Sun, 24 Jun 2007 13:56:31 -0400
"Jim Stapleton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I've had this answered before, but for some reason, I can't seem to
> get it working.
> 
> I am having problems with something in WINE and I want to see if it's
> the version of WINE, thus I'd *like* to reinstall WINE 0.9.39 and put
> 0.9.36 back. I have my supfile set to 2007.06.15... and use these
> commands:
> 
> sudo csup -i 'emulators/wine' -L 2 /etc/supfile-ports
> sudo csup -i '*ulators/win*' -L 2 /etc/supfile-ports
> sudo csup -i 'emulators/wine' -L 2 /etc/supfile-ports
> 
> 
> But I don't see the standard patch applications I would see when
> something is updating with any of them.
> 
> What am I doing wrong?

I don't know, but I use ports-mgmt/portdowngrade when I want to do this
kind of thing.
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Re: cvsup question

[Jonathan Horne]

On Sunday 24 June 2007 12:56:31 Jim Stapleton wrote:
> I've had this answered before, but for some reason, I can't seem to
> get it working.
>
> I am having problems with something in WINE and I want to see if it's
> the version of WINE, thus I'd *like* to reinstall WINE 0.9.39 and put
> 0.9.36 back. I have my supfile set to 2007.06.15... and use these
> commands:
>
> sudo csup -i 'emulators/wine' -L 2 /etc/supfile-ports
> sudo csup -i '*ulators/win*' -L 2 /etc/supfile-ports
> sudo csup -i 'emulators/wine' -L 2 /etc/supfile-ports
>
>
> But I don't see the standard patch applications I would see when
> something is updating with any of them.
>
> What am I doing wrong?
>
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i did -i ports/emulators/wine and it worked for me.

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Re: cvsup ports

[Steve Bertrand]

David Coder wrote:
> i'm finding that cvsup comes up empty in trying to update the port tree
> from
> cvsup2 & cvsup3 (haven't tried others).  is there something wrong w/
> them or
> have i missed a crucial turn of events?

Beyond what others have said about the 'freeze', it may be advisable
that you use fastest_cvsup (pkg_add -r fastest_cvsup) to see what the
fastest/best available cvs server is if you usually only use one or two. eg:

# fastest_cvsup -c ca,us

..gives me the most responsive in Canada and U.S. respectively. I
quickly then dump the server into the supfile I'm using and let it run.

Steve
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Re: cvsup ports

[Beech Rintoul]

On Thursday 17 May 2007, David Coder said:
> i'm finding that cvsup comes up empty in trying to update the port
> tree from cvsup2 & cvsup3 (haven't tried others).  is there
> something wrong w/ them or have i missed a crucial turn of events?
>

The ports tree is in a "freeze" state right now pending the merge of 
xorg-7.2. You can monitor the freebsd-ports@ list for details.

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Re: cvsup ports

[Mikhail Goriachev]

David Coder wrote:
> i'm finding that cvsup comes up empty in trying to update the port tree from
> cvsup2 & cvsup3 (haven't tried others).  is there something wrong w/ them or
> have i missed a crucial turn of events?


The ports are being frozen due to Xorg integration[1]. Just hang on for
a few days.



Regards,
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Re: cvsup-mirror supfile configuration for specific source

[Lowell Gilbert]

Don't top-post, please.

"Anthony Human" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Thanks for the response.
>
> However, I'm trying to avoid having to download the entire cvs tree
> considering I only need the source 5.5 Release or 6.2 Release. The ports
> tree would be great as well.

Well, you can certainly do that.  Just set the prefix and tag
variables differently for the different branches.  Ports aren't
branched.  

> The CVS Repository is 3.1 GB which is a rather large amount for us to
> download.
> http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/hubs/mirror-requirements.html

Right now I seem to have about 1.6G for src and 1.2G for ports.
Still, it's a one-time expense; your ongoing download requirements
may even be a little *smaller* for keeping the whole cvs tree.
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RE: cvsup-mirror supfile configuration for specific source

[Anthony Human]

Thanks for the response.

However, I'm trying to avoid having to download the entire cvs tree
considering I only need the source 5.5 Release or 6.2 Release. The ports
tree would be great as well.

The CVS Repository is 3.1 GB which is a rather large amount for us to
download.
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/hubs/mirror-requirem
ents.html



-Original Message-
From: Lowell Gilbert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 25 April 2007 17:55
To: Anthony Human
Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject: Re: cvsup-mirror supfile configuration for specific source

"Anthony Human" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Currently we have quite a number of servers running either 5.5 Release

> or 6.2 Release. I would like to configure a BSD box as a cvsup-mirror 
> to serve our internal servers. I am doing this to hopefully save both 
> time and bandwidth when updating.
>  
> Please could someone assist me with configuring the supfile to only 
> download the source for the above versions? Any other advice/tips 
> would be much appreciated.

If you're running a local cvsup mirror, just grab the whole cvs tree for
the sources (and the ports).  You can leave out the bug database, and a
few other distributions, but it's probably not worth your while to get
the checked-out sources instead of the cvs files.
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Re: cvsup-mirror supfile configuration for specific source

[Lowell Gilbert]

"Anthony Human" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Currently we have quite a number of servers running either 5.5 Release
> or 6.2 Release. I would like to configure a BSD box as a cvsup-mirror to
> serve our internal servers. I am doing this to hopefully save both time
> and bandwidth when updating.
>  
> Please could someone assist me with configuring the supfile to only
> download the source for the above versions? Any other advice/tips would
> be much appreciated.

If you're running a local cvsup mirror, just grab the whole cvs tree
for the sources (and the ports).  You can leave out the bug database,
and a few other distributions, but it's probably not worth your while
to get the checked-out sources instead of the cvs files.
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Re: CVSup question

[Lars Eighner]

On Wed, 21 Feb 2007, Simon Gao wrote:

What if I just want to update ports for 5 stable tree? If using HEAD, then 
may some ports being updated be current but not stable? Or there is no such 
things as stable or current ports?


You got the right answer the first time.  You will get the appropriate
ports tree (updated) with the . tag.  If you use any other tag, you will
destroy your ports tree.

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Re: CVSup question

[Patrick Bowen]

Simon Gao wrote:
What if I just want to update ports for 5 stable tree? If using HEAD, 
then may some ports being updated be current but not stable? Or there 
is no such things as stable or current ports?

Simon


Joe Holden wrote:

Simon Gao wrote:

Hi,

I have some machines running FreeBSD 5.2.1. Is it safe to update 
ports to 5.4_stable via CVSup? Or should I use 5_stable?




Ports are independant of base branch, ports should generally be HEAD 
(tag=.).


HTH,
Joe

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No such thing as -stable or -current ports.

Patrick
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Re: CVSup question

[Joe Holden]

Simon Gao wrote:
What if I just want to update ports for 5 stable tree? If using HEAD, 
then may some ports being updated be current but not stable? Or there is 
no such things as stable or current ports?

Simon


Joe Holden wrote:

Simon Gao wrote:

Hi,

I have some machines running FreeBSD 5.2.1. Is it safe to update 
ports to 5.4_stable via CVSup? Or should I use 5_stable?




Ports are independant of base branch, ports should generally be HEAD 
(tag=.).


HTH,
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You can update ports to a release date, or infact an actual date.
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Re: CVSup question

[Simon Gao]

What if I just want to update ports for 5 stable tree? If using HEAD, 
then may some ports being updated be current but not stable? Or there is 
no such things as stable or current ports? 


Simon


Joe Holden wrote:

Simon Gao wrote:

Hi,

I have some machines running FreeBSD 5.2.1. Is it safe to update 
ports to 5.4_stable via CVSup? Or should I use 5_stable?




Ports are independant of base branch, ports should generally be HEAD 
(tag=.).


HTH,
Joe

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Re: CVSup question

[Joe Holden]

Simon Gao wrote:

Hi,

I have some machines running FreeBSD 5.2.1. Is it safe to update ports 
to 5.4_stable via CVSup? Or should I use 5_stable?




Ports are independant of base branch, ports should generally be HEAD 
(tag=.).


HTH,
Joe

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Re: cvsup tag for ports

[Andrew Pantyukhin]

On 2/11/07, Michael <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Now getting back to my original question, if you
are running a production server, does it make sense to pull down ports
which are under the -CURRENT tag=. or should anyone who's running a
production server just stick with what's in the current release ports?
Would I benefit more from pulling down the most current ports because it
offers the most up to date packages?

If neither is safer than I think it's probably ok to just continue to
pull down the most current, if that's not true than I should probably
just use the ports which came with the release.  This is what I'd like
people's comments on more than anything else.

Thanks for your feedback I really appreciate it.


There are many different approaches to safety (as in
reliability and security).

There's being absolutely reactive, that is never do
anything until something disastrous happens. Don't
touch your servers until they're full of dirt, cobweb,
trojans, viruses, etc., and actually go down.

There's being absolutely proactive, that is take an
active part in the communities around the software
you use, stay up-to-date on current issues and keep
your boxes fresh with new releases.

Most admins are somewhere in between, you'll have to
choose where to dwell for yourself based on the time
and enthusiasm you have.
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Re: cvsup tag for ports

[Michael]

Erik Trulsson wrote:

On Sat, Feb 10, 2007 at 03:41:58PM -0800, Michael wrote:
  

Erik Trulsson wrote:


On Sat, Feb 10, 2007 at 02:06:37PM -0800, Michael wrote:
 
  

Hello everyone,

I'm building a production server and I have what may seem to be a very 
simple question so I hope it only requires a simple answer.


As I've studied the FreeBSD Handbook as well as the man pages for this, 
it's still not clear to me which tag I should use for a production server.


For my sources I always use the security branch for the release we are 
using so that they stay stable and also plug most of the security issues 
as they arise and so the sources tag is always RELENG_6_2.


For the ports, the default tag is always tag=. which I'm not sure is the 
best thing for a production server since that's the tab for -CURRENT.  
On one hand it makes sense to track that branch for ports because that's 
where fixes would go for applications as they find them, but I'm not 
convinced this is the best thing for a production server and wonder if I 
should also use the security branch for the ports.


My first question is, does any real security fixes go into the ports 
when you pull from a security branch?  In other words, do maintainers 
actually submit fixes to that branch for the ports?


I have a similiar question for the docs as well, should we be tracking 
only the security branch when using cvsup for sources, ports and doc's?
   


Neither the ports tree nor the docs tree is branched.  I.e. there is no
security branch for ports.  
On the other hand you are not required to update installed ports/packages

just because you update the ports tree.


 
  
What do you mean they aren't branched?  Of course they are or they 
wouldn't be in cvs and if I changed the tag, it wouldn't do anything 
(they wouldn't change on running cvsup), but they do change (ports get 
deleted/added/edited.), so I'm not following you here.


Can you elaborate on what you mean?



What I mean is that the ports tree only has a single CVS branch, HEAD, which
is what you get with tag=.
There are no other branches. (Unlike the src/ tree which does have several
different branches in addition to HEAD.)
There are tags (like RELEASE_6_2_0 or RELEASE_5_2_1) that identify the ports
tree at some specific point in time.
If you update the ports tree with e.g. tag=RELEASE_6_2_0 you will get the
ports tree in the same state as was shipped with FreeBSD 6.2-RELEASE.
If you use the same tag a couple of months later you will get exactly the
same thing - the ports tree as was shipped with FreeBSD 6.2-RELEASE.

If you want to get updates to the ports tree you will have to use tag=. or
wait until a new release has been made and use the tag corresponding to that
particular release.


  
OK, that makes sense.  Now getting back to my original question, if you 
are running a production server, does it make sense to pull down ports 
which are under the -CURRENT tag=. or should anyone who's running a 
production server just stick with what's in the current release ports?  
Would I benefit more from pulling down the most current ports because it 
offers the most up to date packages? 

If neither is safer than I think it's probably ok to just continue to 
pull down the most current, if that's not true than I should probably 
just use the ports which came with the release.  This is what I'd like 
people's comments on more than anything else.


Thanks for your feedback I really appreciate it.

Michael Lawver
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Re: cvsup tag for ports

[Erik Trulsson]

On Sat, Feb 10, 2007 at 03:41:58PM -0800, Michael wrote:
> Erik Trulsson wrote:
> >On Sat, Feb 10, 2007 at 02:06:37PM -0800, Michael wrote:
> >  
> >>Hello everyone,
> >>
> >>I'm building a production server and I have what may seem to be a very 
> >>simple question so I hope it only requires a simple answer.
> >>
> >>As I've studied the FreeBSD Handbook as well as the man pages for this, 
> >>it's still not clear to me which tag I should use for a production server.
> >>
> >>For my sources I always use the security branch for the release we are 
> >>using so that they stay stable and also plug most of the security issues 
> >>as they arise and so the sources tag is always RELENG_6_2.
> >>
> >>For the ports, the default tag is always tag=. which I'm not sure is the 
> >>best thing for a production server since that's the tab for -CURRENT.  
> >>On one hand it makes sense to track that branch for ports because that's 
> >>where fixes would go for applications as they find them, but I'm not 
> >>convinced this is the best thing for a production server and wonder if I 
> >>should also use the security branch for the ports.
> >>
> >>My first question is, does any real security fixes go into the ports 
> >>when you pull from a security branch?  In other words, do maintainers 
> >>actually submit fixes to that branch for the ports?
> >>
> >>I have a similiar question for the docs as well, should we be tracking 
> >>only the security branch when using cvsup for sources, ports and doc's?
> >>
> >
> >Neither the ports tree nor the docs tree is branched.  I.e. there is no
> >security branch for ports.  
> >On the other hand you are not required to update installed ports/packages
> >just because you update the ports tree.
> >
> >
> >  
> What do you mean they aren't branched?  Of course they are or they 
> wouldn't be in cvs and if I changed the tag, it wouldn't do anything 
> (they wouldn't change on running cvsup), but they do change (ports get 
> deleted/added/edited.), so I'm not following you here.
> 
> Can you elaborate on what you mean?

What I mean is that the ports tree only has a single CVS branch, HEAD, which
is what you get with tag=.
There are no other branches. (Unlike the src/ tree which does have several
different branches in addition to HEAD.)
There are tags (like RELEASE_6_2_0 or RELEASE_5_2_1) that identify the ports
tree at some specific point in time.
If you update the ports tree with e.g. tag=RELEASE_6_2_0 you will get the
ports tree in the same state as was shipped with FreeBSD 6.2-RELEASE.
If you use the same tag a couple of months later you will get exactly the
same thing - the ports tree as was shipped with FreeBSD 6.2-RELEASE.

If you want to get updates to the ports tree you will have to use tag=. or
wait until a new release has been made and use the tag corresponding to that
particular release.


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Re: cvsup tag for ports

[Andrew Pantyukhin]

On 2/11/07, Michael <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Erik Trulsson wrote:
> On Sat, Feb 10, 2007 at 02:06:37PM -0800, Michael wrote:
>
>> Hello everyone,
>>
>> I'm building a production server and I have what may seem to be a very
>> simple question so I hope it only requires a simple answer.
>>
>> As I've studied the FreeBSD Handbook as well as the man pages for this,
>> it's still not clear to me which tag I should use for a production server.
>>
>> For my sources I always use the security branch for the release we are
>> using so that they stay stable and also plug most of the security issues
>> as they arise and so the sources tag is always RELENG_6_2.
>>
>> For the ports, the default tag is always tag=. which I'm not sure is the
>> best thing for a production server since that's the tab for -CURRENT.
>> On one hand it makes sense to track that branch for ports because that's
>> where fixes would go for applications as they find them, but I'm not
>> convinced this is the best thing for a production server and wonder if I
>> should also use the security branch for the ports.
>>
>> My first question is, does any real security fixes go into the ports
>> when you pull from a security branch?  In other words, do maintainers
>> actually submit fixes to that branch for the ports?
>>
>> I have a similiar question for the docs as well, should we be tracking
>> only the security branch when using cvsup for sources, ports and doc's?
>>
>
> Neither the ports tree nor the docs tree is branched.  I.e. there is no
> security branch for ports.
> On the other hand you are not required to update installed ports/packages
> just because you update the ports tree.
>
>
>
What do you mean they aren't branched?  Of course they are or they
wouldn't be in cvs and if I changed the tag, it wouldn't do anything
(they wouldn't change on running cvsup), but they do change (ports get
deleted/added/edited.), so I'm not following you here.

Can you elaborate on what you mean?


They are not branched, but just tagged. Tags may slip
a bit while a release is being prepared, but after we
ship it, the doc/ports tags are frozen no matter what
happens in the world of 3d-party software.
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Re: cvsup tag for ports

[Michael]

Erik Trulsson wrote:

On Sat, Feb 10, 2007 at 02:06:37PM -0800, Michael wrote:
  

Hello everyone,

I'm building a production server and I have what may seem to be a very 
simple question so I hope it only requires a simple answer.


As I've studied the FreeBSD Handbook as well as the man pages for this, 
it's still not clear to me which tag I should use for a production server.


For my sources I always use the security branch for the release we are 
using so that they stay stable and also plug most of the security issues 
as they arise and so the sources tag is always RELENG_6_2.


For the ports, the default tag is always tag=. which I'm not sure is the 
best thing for a production server since that's the tab for -CURRENT.  
On one hand it makes sense to track that branch for ports because that's 
where fixes would go for applications as they find them, but I'm not 
convinced this is the best thing for a production server and wonder if I 
should also use the security branch for the ports.


My first question is, does any real security fixes go into the ports 
when you pull from a security branch?  In other words, do maintainers 
actually submit fixes to that branch for the ports?


I have a similiar question for the docs as well, should we be tracking 
only the security branch when using cvsup for sources, ports and doc's?



Neither the ports tree nor the docs tree is branched.  I.e. there is no
security branch for ports.  
On the other hand you are not required to update installed ports/packages

just because you update the ports tree.


  
What do you mean they aren't branched?  Of course they are or they 
wouldn't be in cvs and if I changed the tag, it wouldn't do anything 
(they wouldn't change on running cvsup), but they do change (ports get 
deleted/added/edited.), so I'm not following you here.


Can you elaborate on what you mean?

Thanks,

Michael Lawver
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Re: cvsup tag for ports

[Erik Trulsson]

On Sat, Feb 10, 2007 at 02:06:37PM -0800, Michael wrote:
> Hello everyone,
> 
> I'm building a production server and I have what may seem to be a very 
> simple question so I hope it only requires a simple answer.
> 
> As I've studied the FreeBSD Handbook as well as the man pages for this, 
> it's still not clear to me which tag I should use for a production server.
> 
> For my sources I always use the security branch for the release we are 
> using so that they stay stable and also plug most of the security issues 
> as they arise and so the sources tag is always RELENG_6_2.
> 
> For the ports, the default tag is always tag=. which I'm not sure is the 
> best thing for a production server since that's the tab for -CURRENT.  
> On one hand it makes sense to track that branch for ports because that's 
> where fixes would go for applications as they find them, but I'm not 
> convinced this is the best thing for a production server and wonder if I 
> should also use the security branch for the ports.
> 
> My first question is, does any real security fixes go into the ports 
> when you pull from a security branch?  In other words, do maintainers 
> actually submit fixes to that branch for the ports?
> 
> I have a similiar question for the docs as well, should we be tracking 
> only the security branch when using cvsup for sources, ports and doc's?

Neither the ports tree nor the docs tree is branched.  I.e. there is no
security branch for ports.  
On the other hand you are not required to update installed ports/packages
just because you update the ports tree.


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Re: CVSup Touch

[Cy Schubert]

In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Kent Stewart writes:
> On Friday 02 February 2007 07:26, Kevin Kinsey wrote:
> > Cy Schubert wrote:
> > > What is a CVSup "Touch"? What is it? (A touch, right?) Why does it
> > > happen? What triggers it?
> > >
> > > e.g.
> > >  Touch ports/devel/makeplus/files/patch-main.mk,v
> > >  Touch ports/devel/makeplus/pkg-descr,v
> > >  Touch ports/devel/makeplus/pkg-plist,v
> > >
> > > I have a CVSup that's been running here for 15 minutes touching
> > > every ,v file in ports. It still has not competed.
> >
> > Could we see your supfile?  Looks as if CVSup is, err, "barking up
> > the wrong tree"?
> 
> I suspect that it is part of decoupling FreeBSD-4.x from the port tree.

That's what I suspect. I think that the files were either updated or 
touched to make sure that the whole tree was propagated the next time 
people did a CVSup of the tree itself. It's not a big deal, it the first 
time I've noticed CVSup do that as I usually just look at the exit status 
of my cron job and go onto the next email.


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Re: CVSup Touch

[Kent Stewart]

On Friday 02 February 2007 07:26, Kevin Kinsey wrote:
> Cy Schubert wrote:
> > What is a CVSup "Touch"? What is it? (A touch, right?) Why does it
> > happen? What triggers it?
> >
> > e.g.
> >  Touch ports/devel/makeplus/files/patch-main.mk,v
> >  Touch ports/devel/makeplus/pkg-descr,v
> >  Touch ports/devel/makeplus/pkg-plist,v
> >
> > I have a CVSup that's been running here for 15 minutes touching
> > every ,v file in ports. It still has not competed.
>
> Could we see your supfile?  Looks as if CVSup is, err, "barking up
> the wrong tree"?

I suspect that it is part of decoupling FreeBSD-4.x from the port tree.

Kent

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Re: CVSup Touch

[Kevin Kinsey]

Cy Schubert wrote:
What is a CVSup "Touch"? What is it? (A touch, right?) Why does it happen? 
What triggers it?


e.g.
 Touch ports/devel/makeplus/files/patch-main.mk,v
 Touch ports/devel/makeplus/pkg-descr,v
 Touch ports/devel/makeplus/pkg-plist,v

I have a CVSup that's been running here for 15 minutes touching every ,v 
file in ports. It still has not competed.


Could we see your supfile?  Looks as if CVSup is, err, "barking up the 
wrong tree"?


KDK


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Re: CVSup question

[Brian A. Seklecki]

php5-cgi hasn't been a separate port for some time.  Try "make config" in 
lang/php5.


~BAS

On Tue, 30 Jan 2007, Charlie McElfresh wrote:


Hi,

I am running FreeBSD 5.4-RELEASE

In an effort to update my ports collection, I ran CVSup, with the line

ports-all

in my cvs_supfile

After the update finished, I noticed that some of my ports that were there
before, notably php5-cgi, were no longer there.

I'd appreciate being pointed in the right direction for the solution to my
problem.  Thanks.

Charlie
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Re: CVSup question

[Roland Smith]

On Tue, Jan 30, 2007 at 10:20:03AM -0800, Charlie McElfresh wrote:
> After the update finished, I noticed that some of my ports that were there
> before, notably php5-cgi, were no longer there.

Check out Freshports: http://www.freshports.org/commits.php

This gives you an overview of recently changed ports.

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Re: CVSup question

[Jonathan Horne]

> Hi,
>
> I am running FreeBSD 5.4-RELEASE
>
> In an effort to update my ports collection, I ran CVSup, with the line
>
> ports-all
>
> in my cvs_supfile
>
> After the update finished, I noticed that some of my ports that were there
> before, notably php5-cgi, were no longer there.
>
> I'd appreciate being pointed in the right direction for the solution to my
> problem.  Thanks.
>
> Charlie
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what you are probably looking for is now found in lang/php5-extensions.

hth,
jonathan


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Re: CVSup question

[Lowell Gilbert]

"Charlie McElfresh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Hi,
>
> I am running FreeBSD 5.4-RELEASE
>
> In an effort to update my ports collection, I ran CVSup, with the line
>
> ports-all
>
> in my cvs_supfile
>
> After the update finished, I noticed that some of my ports that were there
> before, notably php5-cgi, were no longer there.
>
> I'd appreciate being pointed in the right direction for the solution to my
> problem.  Thanks.

$ grep php5-cgi /usr/ports/*
/usr/ports/MOVED:www/php5-cgi|lang/php5|2006-05-06|Unification of php slave 
ports
$
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Re: cvsup file info needed please advise

[Dak Ghatikachalam]

On 1/27/07, Joe Holden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Dak Ghatikachalam wrote:
> Hi world
>
> I am working on performing the kernel upgrade using cvsup ,
>
> my file cvsup-standard file is looking like
>
> "
> *default host=cvsup2.us.FreeBSD.org
> *default base=/var/db
> *default prefix=/usr
> *default release=cvs tag=RELENG_6_1
> *default delete use-rel-suffix
> *.default compress
> src-all
> "
>
> I wanted to go from 6.1 to 6,2 latest and greatest .
>
> What is the correct tag name I should use
>
RELENG_6_2



Thanks a lot, let me see how it goes
Dak
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Re: cvsup file info needed please advise

[Joe Holden]

Dak Ghatikachalam wrote:

Hi world

I am working on performing the kernel upgrade using cvsup ,

my file cvsup-standard file is looking like

"
*default host=cvsup2.us.FreeBSD.org
*default base=/var/db
*default prefix=/usr
*default release=cvs tag=RELENG_6_1
*default delete use-rel-suffix
*.default compress
src-all
"

I wanted to go from 6.1 to 6,2 latest and greatest .

What is the correct tag name I should use


RELENG_6_2

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Re: cvsup failed

[Jonathan Chen]

On Thu, Jan 18, 2007 at 05:52:00PM +0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> when i use cvsup to update port tree, it always refused by server, like
> this:
>  
> Connecting to cvsup.freebsdchina.org
> Cannot connect to cvsup.freebsdchina.org: connection refused
> ...
>  
> i have change many cvsup server , all of then result in then same,
>  
> what should i do?

Check that your firewall is allowing outgoing tcp/5999.
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Re: CVSup core dumping

[Dan Nelson]

In the last episode (Jan 18), Firas Kraiem said:
> The title says it all, when I try to run CVSup to update my ports
> collection (6.2-RELEASE), I get a core dump error :
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# cvsup -L 2 /root/ports-supfile
> Parsing supfile "/root/ports-supfile"
> Connecting to cvsup.fr.FreeBSD.org
> Connected to cvsup.fr.FreeBSD.org
> Server software version: SNAP_16_1h
> Negotiating file attribute support
> Exchanging collection information
> Establishing multiplexed-mode data connection
> Running
> Fatal error '_longjmp()ing between thread contexts is undefined by POSIX 
> 1003.1' at line 87 in file /usr/src/lib/libc_r/uthread/uthread_jmp.c (errno = 
> 2)
> Abort trap: 6 (core dumped)
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]#

I didn't think cvsup linked with any threads library, let alone libc_r
which hasn't been the default since 5.2.  Do you have an LD_PRELOAD
environment variable set, or maybe an /etc/libmap.conf file that maps
something to libc_r?

Since you're sunning cvsup in checkout mode, you might want to try
csup, which is a new command in 6.2 and takes the same supfile and
command line flags as cvsup does.

> If it can be of any help, I've put a copy of my supfile here : 
> http://fkraiem.free.fr/ports-supfile

Probably unrelated to the coredump, but if you're updating ports, you
probably want

 *default release=cvs tag=.

in your cvsup file.  What you have (tag=RELENG_6_2) will give you the
same ports tree that was burned onto the 6.2 CDs, which will never
change.

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Re: cvsup failed

[Guido Demmenie]

On Jan 18, 2007, at 10:52 AM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


when i use cvsup to update port tree, it always refused by server,  
like

this:

Connecting to cvsup.freebsdchina.org
Cannot connect to cvsup.freebsdchina.org: connection refused
...

i have change many cvsup server , all of then result in then same,

what should i do?



I don't know what servers you tried, but you might try the servers  
listed in the handbook:


http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/ 
cvsup.html#HANDBOOK-MIRRORS-CHAPTER-SGML-MIRRORS-CN-CVSUP


If those also result in the connection refused you should post your  
supfile to provide a little more information.


--Guido
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