[Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2 OEM PC

2017-06-25 Thread Jerome Shidel
Hello Everybody, When creating the FreeDOS 1.2 installer, this subject was one of the things that was in the back of my mind. All of those computers, ones that ship with their only installed operating system being FreeDOS. Yes, I do realize that mostly they are sold outside of the United States

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2 official release!

2016-12-25 Thread Alain Mouette
Thank you, all of you :) On 25-12-2016 13:16, Jim Hall wrote: I am proud to announce the release of FreeDOS 1.2! You can download it from our website at www.freedos.org . The latest official FreeDOS distribution is the result of the hard work from many people. Thanks

[Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2 official release!

2016-12-25 Thread Jim Hall
I am proud to announce the release of FreeDOS 1.2! You can download it from our website at www.freedos.org. The latest official FreeDOS distribution is the result of the hard work from many people. Thanks to everyone in the FreeDOS Project for their work towards this new release! There are too man

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2 RC2 - Turkish Character Layout

2016-12-17 Thread Jerome Shidel
> On Dec 17, 2016, at 3:45 PM, thraex wrote: > > Jerome Shidel wrote: >> >>> On Dec 10, 2016, at 2:10 PM, Ercan Ersoy wrote: >>> >>> I'm using Oracle VirtualBox 5.1.10. I installed FreeDOS 1.2 RC2 on >>> virtual machine. I selected Turkish language in setup. In setup and >>> after install, Tu

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2 RC2 - Turkish Character Layout

2016-12-17 Thread thraex
Jerome Shidel wrote: > >> On Dec 10, 2016, at 2:10 PM, Ercan Ersoy wrote: >> >> I'm using Oracle VirtualBox 5.1.10. I installed FreeDOS 1.2 RC2 on >> virtual machine. I selected Turkish language in setup. In setup and >> after install, Turkish characters isn't applied by FreeDOS. >> > > (...) Displ

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2 RC2 - Turkish Character Layout

2016-12-10 Thread Jerome Shidel
> On Dec 10, 2016, at 2:10 PM, Ercan Ersoy wrote: > > Hello. > > I'm using Oracle VirtualBox 5.1.10. I installed FreeDOS 1.2 RC2 on virtual > machine. I selected Turkish language in setup. In setup and after install, > Turkish characters isn't applied by FreeDOS. > > Best regards, > Ercan Er

[Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2 RC2 - Turkish Character Layout

2016-12-10 Thread Ercan Ersoy
Hello. I'm using Oracle VirtualBox 5.1.10. I installed FreeDOS 1.2 RC2 on virtual machine. I selected Turkish language in setup. In setup and after install, Turkish characters isn't applied by FreeDOS. Best regards, Ercan Ersoy

[Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2 RC2 - Hungarian Keyboard

2016-12-04 Thread Roland Tóth Roland
Hi people, I want to suggest this: [FDCONFIG.SYS] COUNTRY=036,852,C:\DOS\BIN\COUNTRY.SYS [AUTOEXEC:BAT] SET lang=HU DISPLAY CON=(EGA,,1) MODE CON CODEPAGE PREPARE=((852) c:\DOS\CPI\EGA.CPX) MODE CON CODEPAGE SELECT=852 KEYB hu,852 /ID:208 Regards, Roland --

[Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2 -- Whats Up?

2016-11-03 Thread Jerome E. Shidel Jr.
Have you wondered exactly what has been updated in the new FreeDOS release since version 1.1? Check it out http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/distributions/1.2/previews/1.2-rc1/compare.html -- Develo

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2-RC1 on Hyper-V 2012 R2

2016-11-02 Thread Eric Auer
Hi Matthew, > ... storage, which I set to 40 GB. The installation took a long > time---several hours, although I didn't measure it carefully. > Post-installation, it seemed to run slowly, e.g., a directory listing of > the FreeDOS "bin" directory took a minute or so to display anything. ... Tha

[Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2-RC1 on Hyper-V 2012 R2

2016-11-02 Thread Matthew X. Economou
Greetings, friends! The release candidate announcement encouraged people to try FreeDOS out and report any problems, so here I am to say that I successfully booted and installed 1.2-RC1 in a generation-1 Hyper-V 2012 R2 virtual machine using the ISO image. I pretty much took the defaults for ever

[Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2

2016-10-30 Thread Jerome E. Shidel Jr.
Hello all, Only one more day until FreeDOS 1.2-RC1. :-) Also, I made some minor updates to the scripting that auto-generates the html pages for the online software repository. Among the improvements, the pages for packages now provide links to “previous" package versions for added convenience.

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2 - Keyboard Layouts

2016-10-23 Thread Henrik Schick-Hansen
Hello, Could you please add a Danish (DK) keymap to the short list ? Thank you, Henrik From: Jerome E. Shidel Jr. Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2016 2:22:03 PM To: Technical discussion and questions for FreeDOS developers. Subject: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2

[Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2 - Keyboard Layouts

2016-10-23 Thread Jerome E. Shidel Jr.
Hello All, Jim has been very busy over the last couple weeks and I have not heard back from him as of yet. His decisions on these matters are not yet known. However, I fully understand the pain involved with trying to use a command line that is mapped to a a language other than the one being

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2 -- Keymap

2016-10-17 Thread Eric Auer
Hi Tom, Jerome, everybody, > however using any OS with the wrong keyboard driver is simply shit. Trying to explain: Imagine your keyboard has AZERTY written on it. Then DOS comes and simply assumes you have a "normal" QWERTY keyboard. Now every time when you press the A button, DOS types Q for y

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2 -- Keymap

2016-10-17 Thread Tom Ehlert
>> On Oct 16, 2016, at 11:33 AM, Matej Horvat >> wrote: >> >> On Sun, 16 Oct 2016 16:59:05 +0200, Jerome Shidel >> wrote: >> >>> If the user is in advanced mode OR selects a non-English language, the >>> installer will prompt for a couple of keyboard settings. US, UK, GR, >>> GR2, SG, NL,

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2 -- Keymap

2016-10-16 Thread Ralf Quint
On 10/16/2016 4:02 PM, Jerome E. Shidel Jr. wrote: > >> The FreeDOS 1.0 installer offered 85 keyboard layouts. Why stop there? > Mostly, I see no point in offering a keyboard layout for languages that do > not have translations available for the installer at present. There have only > been 5 transl

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2 -- Keymap

2016-10-16 Thread Jerome E. Shidel Jr.
> On Oct 16, 2016, at 11:33 AM, Matej Horvat > wrote: > > On Sun, 16 Oct 2016 16:59:05 +0200, Jerome Shidel > wrote: > >> If the user is in advanced mode OR selects a non-English language, the >> installer will prompt for a couple of keyboard settings. US, UK, GR, >> GR2, SG, NL, FR and SP.

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2 -- Keymap

2016-10-16 Thread Matej Horvat
On Sun, 16 Oct 2016 16:59:05 +0200, Jerome Shidel wrote: > If the user is in advanced mode OR selects a non-English language, the > installer will prompt for a couple of keyboard settings. US, UK, GR, > GR2, SG, NL, FR and SP. The FreeDOS 1.0 installer offered 85 keyboard layouts. Why stop the

[Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2 -- Keymap

2016-10-16 Thread Jerome Shidel
Hello All, This is my plan. I will try to find the time over the next couple days to implement the keyboard mapping in the installer. If the user is in advanced mode OR selects a non-English language, the installer will prompt for a couple of keyboard settings. US, UK, GR, GR2, SG, NL, FR and

[Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2 Preview 23

2016-10-09 Thread Jerome E. Shidel Jr.
Just an FYI, I noticed a minor cut & paste error in the mkFDI.bat build utility. This issue effected using FDIDEV.BAT to replicate the build environment. This issue also prevented FDI from installing source files when installing FreeDOS. This issue has been resolved for the next release (RC1).

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2 Auto NET Config

2016-08-21 Thread Ulrich Hansen
> Am 21.08.2016 um 15:33 schrieb Jerome E. Shidel Jr. : > > Hello Ulrich, > > I will definitely look into it very soon. > (Probably next weekend. Some changes at work have really limited my free time > lately) Hello Jerome, thanks for the reply. No reason to hurry… :-) > Rugxulo has also po

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2 Auto NET Config

2016-08-21 Thread Jerome E. Shidel Jr.
Hello Ulrich, I will definitely look into it very soon. (Probably next weekend. Some changes at work have really limited my free time lately) Rugxulo has also pointed me to a FreeDOS based release that MetaDOS. It seems to do the automatic networking setup pretty well. Under VirtualBOX, it wor

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2 Auto NET Config

2016-08-21 Thread Ulrich Hansen
Hi Jerome, I experimented a bit more with your installer CD to find out the steps how to install the programs I talked about in my last post. Luckily most things are already there. Unfortunately there are some bugs. Crynwr and MTCP are on the CD so you could just install them if you detect Virt

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2 Auto NET Config

2016-08-20 Thread Ulrich Hansen
Hi Jerome! >>> One thing I would like to see make it into the release is some networking. I >>> don’t think it would be practical to have a universal setup for each and >>> every machine and NIC at this time. But, it may be possible to have >>> the installer automatically do this for some of the k

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2 Auto NET Config

2016-07-31 Thread Jerome Shidel
Hello, Rugxulo pointed me at a custom FreeDOS release that has some networking support. I haven't had time to look at it closely. But, initial quick and simple tests showed support for VirtualBox and VMware (bridged NIC). > On Jul 31, 2016, at 8:32 PM, Louis Santillan wrote: > > A couple wee

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2 Auto NET Config

2016-07-31 Thread Louis Santillan
A couple weeks late. Apologies. I like this goal. The current FD 1.2pre 22 doesn't seem to have any networking subsystem packages installed. For me, this affects our direction. Michael Brutman has additional applicable analysis about DOS networking here [0]. WatTCP/Watt-32: Lots of apps. Mos

[Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2 Auto NET Config

2016-07-17 Thread Jerome E. Shidel Jr.
Hello all, As you you may already know, we have been working on the FreeDOS 1.2 release. One thing I would like to see make it into the release is some networking. I don’t think it would be practical to have a universal setup for each and every machine and NIC at this time. But, it may be poss

[Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2 - Preview 17

2016-05-07 Thread Jerome E. Shidel Jr.
Hello all, I have just released Preview 17, http://up.lod.bz/FDI This release contains: * Minor package and data updates. * Some internal improvements. * Some VirtualBox compatibility updates. * USB versions include FDIDEV.BAT to aid in replicating the

[Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2 BETA, Coming soon--ish.

2016-03-22 Thread Jerome E. Shidel Jr.
Hello All, This is mostly a status update regarding the FreeDOS 1.2 BETA release. There have been no installer related issues reported with the current FDI Preview 14 and it is technically ready for the BETA release. However, I intend on implementing a couple things prior to that release. They

[Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2+ Preview 12 with Dimples

2016-02-10 Thread Jerome E. Shidel Jr.
Hello all, Just released FDI Preview 12. Some major non-UI underlying changes, for better performance and compatibility. Too many improvements and far to many things to list. Hopefully, this will be the last preview before FreeDOS 1.2 beta. Next, I intend on looking through the package lists an

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2 Preview 11

2016-02-03 Thread Paul Dufresne
At least with fdisk /XO [Extended Options in user interface] on (set at the end of fdisk.ini), we have access to functions to change type of a partition in the interface. Looking a bit in the code, there seems to be an option for extended interrupt 13h functions. And it seems to use (more) LBA in t

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2 Preview 11

2016-02-02 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Tue, Feb 2, 2016 at 11:20 PM, Paul Dufresne wrote: > >>What exact partition i.d. is your FAT? Perhaps it needs to be LBA >>aware (0xC)? I don't remember offhand. > > Yes, looks like you found the problem. > > I DID NOT SAW ANY WAY TO CHANGE THE TYPE OF THE PARTITION IN FreeDOS FDISK!! > >

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2 Preview 11

2016-02-02 Thread Louis Santillan
I wouldn't think the LBA aware type would have kept your system from booting. I thought that only affected Win9x and IFS driver. Glad you got it working anyways. On Tue, Feb 2, 2016 at 9:20 PM, Paul Dufresne wrote: > >What exact partition i.d. is your FAT? Perhaps it needs to be LBA > >aware (

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2 Preview 11

2016-02-02 Thread Paul Dufresne
>What exact partition i.d. is your FAT? Perhaps it needs to be LBA >aware (0xC)? I don't remember offhand. Yes, looks like you found the problem. I changed it in Linux, from b (W95 FAT32) to c (W95 FAT32 LBA). Then tried to boot my partition (that is now in GRUB since I just installed a Linux to th

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2 Preview 11

2016-02-02 Thread Louis Santillan
You probably do need to use `fdisk /MBR:80`. 80h was the traditional IO port for the first BIOS HDD. IIRC, 00h for Floppy A:, 01h for Floppy B:, all non-removables (usually meaning HDD) start at 80h. This may be different for a BIOS (some Dell, Compaq, HP BIOSes, IIRC) that supports Zip 100/250

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2 Preview 11

2016-02-02 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Tue, Feb 2, 2016 at 9:24 PM, Paul Dufresne wrote: > > Burn on a DVD latest SystemRescueCD but does the same as on my USB key: > -divide by zero exception when trying to use FreeDOS on the DVD Try F8 (single stepping) through your config, and disable any EMM386 or JEMMEX. See if that helps

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2 Preview 11

2016-02-02 Thread Paul Dufresne
Burn on a DVD latest SystemRescueCD but does the same as on my USB key: -divide by zero exception when trying to use FreeDOS on the DVD -SuperGrub just showing upperleft blinking cursor when booting SATA 149 GiB, FreeDOS partition But discovered that HardwareDetectionTool was showing MBR as Grub2

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2 Preview 11

2016-02-02 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Tue, Feb 2, 2016 at 6:56 PM, Jerome E. Shidel Jr. wrote: > >> On Feb 2, 2016, at 7:39 PM, Eric Auer wrote: >> >>> I just don't think most people downloading FreeDOS really need FPC or >>> FBC or DJGPP (even if I do like them). I think they can just grab them >>> separately. >> >> Not sure

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2 Preview 11

2016-02-02 Thread Paul Dufresne
Your suggestion to "fdisk /mbr:81" (81=D:) was making much sense to me because the disk was having grub on it before I erase all with fdisk to make place for FreeDOS. So yes, it made sense that grub being installed in MBR might made me not having normal MBR. But trying "fdisk /mbr:81" have not help

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2 Preview 11

2016-02-02 Thread Jerome E. Shidel Jr.
> On Feb 2, 2016, at 7:39 PM, Eric Auer wrote: > > > Hi! > >> I just don't think most people downloading FreeDOS really need FPC or >> FBC or DJGPP (even if I do like them). I think they can just grab them >> separately. But OW and NASM are officially recommended and much >> smaller, so to tho

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2 Preview 11

2016-02-02 Thread Jerome E. Shidel Jr.
> On Feb 2, 2016, at 7:28 PM, Rugxulo wrote: > > Hi, > > (I'll respond quickly here even though there's a billion follow-up > responses already.) > > > On Mon, Feb 1, 2016 at 6:10 PM, Jerome E. Shidel Jr. > wrote: >> >>> On Feb 1, 2016, at 6:17 PM, Rugxulo wrote: >>> >>> On Mon, Feb 1, 2

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2 Preview 11

2016-02-02 Thread Eric Auer
Hi! > I just don't think most people downloading FreeDOS really need FPC or > FBC or DJGPP (even if I do like them). I think they can just grab them > separately. But OW and NASM are officially recommended and much > smaller, so to those I have no complaints. FreeBasic has a rather cool QB compa

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2 Preview 11

2016-02-02 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, (I'll respond quickly here even though there's a billion follow-up responses already.) On Mon, Feb 1, 2016 at 6:10 PM, Jerome E. Shidel Jr. wrote: > >> On Feb 1, 2016, at 6:17 PM, Rugxulo wrote: >> >> On Mon, Feb 1, 2016 at 9:25 AM, Jerome E. Shidel Jr. >> wrote: >>> >>> I just the FreeD

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2 Preview 11

2016-02-02 Thread Jerome E. Shidel Jr.
Hello Paul, > On Feb 2, 2016, at 5:40 AM, Paul Dufresne wrote: > > I have tried the latest FDI-USB.IMG and I would almost be happy with it. > Yes, I can now install in french fine. > Yes, fdisk now select the D: drive that is my hard disk. > Yes, all the installation goes fine. > Except when I r

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2 Preview 11

2016-02-02 Thread Paul Dufresne
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Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2 Preview 11

2016-02-02 Thread Paul Dufresne
Ok, I open my box and literally found an old forgotten dusty unconnected PATA 40Gb drive. I connected it (after disconnecting SATA drive). And reinstall FreeDOS from USB key. Worked flawlessly this time. At least a few seconds until I try to type 'help dir' or 'help' (as suggested) which make the s

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2 Preview 11

2016-02-02 Thread Paul Dufresne
I have tried the latest FDI-USB.IMG and I would almost be happy with it. Yes, I can now install in french fine. Yes, fdisk now select the D: drive that is my hard disk. Yes, all the installation goes fine. Except when I reboot, it reboot in loop. My hard drive is SATA did read it should works j

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2 Preview 11

2016-02-01 Thread Jerome E. Shidel Jr.
A side note to ALL, regarding what packages are included. There is really no reason you cannot make your own personal customized FDI based release. Two ways to do it. The easy way: For Floppy Image, just modify the package list files A:\FDSETUP\SETUP\*.LST. It will t

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2 Preview 11

2016-02-01 Thread Jerome E. Shidel Jr.
> On Feb 1, 2016, at 7:55 PM, Eric Auer wrote: > > > Hi :-) > >>> I just downloaded the FDI-USB.ZIP file (now 178 MB .ZIP'd, unpacks >>> to 256 MB .img). > >> Yeah, It’s a little big. But, on the other hand it is really hard to find >> a USB stick under 512mb. So, other than download size, it

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2 Preview 11

2016-02-01 Thread Eric Auer
Hi :-) >> I just downloaded the FDI-USB.ZIP file (now 178 MB .ZIP'd, unpacks >> to 256 MB .img). > Yeah, It’s a little big. But, on the other hand it is really hard to find > a USB stick under 512mb. So, other than download size, it isn’t to > important. However, that being said. It should be un

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2 Preview 11

2016-02-01 Thread Jerome E. Shidel Jr.
> On Feb 1, 2016, at 6:17 PM, Rugxulo wrote: > > Hi, > > On Mon, Feb 1, 2016 at 9:25 AM, Jerome E. Shidel Jr. > wrote: >> >> I just the FreeDOS 1.2 Installer Preview 11. >> >> Also, a more permanent USB stick image url location. >> There is a link to it on the FDI download page. > > I just

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2 Preview 11

2016-02-01 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Mon, Feb 1, 2016 at 9:25 AM, Jerome E. Shidel Jr. wrote: > > I just the FreeDOS 1.2 Installer Preview 11. > > Also, a more permanent USB stick image url location. > There is a link to it on the FDI download page. I just downloaded the FDI-USB.ZIP file (now 178 MB .ZIP'd, unpacks to 256 MB

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2 Preview 11

2016-02-01 Thread Jerome E. Shidel Jr.
> On Feb 1, 2016, at 12:13 PM, Paul Dufresne > wrote: > > I just wrote (DD in Linux) the FDI-USB .IMG file on an USB-KEY. > Think this was my first try to boot FreeDOS on USB key. > Boots fine (once adjusted in BIOS). > > Suprise 1) Unable to select a language differ

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2 Preview 11

2016-02-01 Thread Paul Dufresne
I just wrote (DD in Linux) the FDI-USB .IMG file on an USB-KEY. Think this was my first try to boot FreeDOS on USB key. Boots fine (once adjusted in BIOS). Suprise 1) Unable to select a language different than english. Others are shown, but key down does not move to others. Did not was able (or re

[Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2 Preview 11

2016-02-01 Thread Jerome E. Shidel Jr.
I just the FreeDOS 1.2 Installer Preview 11. http://up.load.bz/FDI/latest Also, a more permanent USB stick image url location. There is a link to it on the FDI download page. Or, just use the direct link http://dnld.lod.bz/FDI-USB.zip

[Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2 Packages

2016-01-29 Thread Jerome E. Shidel Jr.
Later today (EDT), I plan on have Preview 11 done. There may be a Preview 12 before the FreeDOS 1.2 Beta. There may not. So far, I’ve made several changes and improvements to the soon to come Preview 11. They include: Improved USB stick drive letter booting and general handling. Removed special s

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2

2016-01-26 Thread Thomas Mueller
Excerpts from Eric Auer: > if Mateusz' repository has "500 MB of packages", then that > would make a good choice for ALL as far as I am concerned: > It easily fits on a CD and you get plenty of DOS stuff :-) > Also, it should fit on most USB sticks as well. Maybe you > could make a list of the

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2

2016-01-23 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Sat, Jan 23, 2016 at 1:56 AM, Thomas Mueller wrote: > > Excerpt from Rugxulo: > >> > Well maybe it would also be nice to have some BASH, such >> > as the DJGPP one - both shell and script language... :-) > >> Nah. Their Bash is ancient (2.05b), not well-supported by anyone >> anymore. Most

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2

2016-01-23 Thread Louis Santillan
On Fri, Jan 22, 2016 at 11:56 PM, Thomas Mueller wrote: > > Excerpt from Rugxulo: > > > > Well maybe it would also be nice to have some BASH, such > > > as the DJGPP one - both shell and script language... :-) > > > Nah. Their Bash is ancient (2.05b), not well-supported by anyone > > anymore. Most

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2

2016-01-22 Thread Thomas Mueller
Excerpt from Rugxulo: > > Well maybe it would also be nice to have some BASH, such > > as the DJGPP one - both shell and script language... :-) > Nah. Their Bash is ancient (2.05b), not well-supported by anyone > anymore. Most DJGPP stuff mandatorily has to be cross-compiled > anyways, for vari

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2 beta

2016-01-04 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Sun, Jan 3, 2016 at 9:07 PM, Maarten Vermeulen wrote: > > Ps: For those wondering why I can't do the core utillity: > > In 2015 I made a school report about MS-DOS. After that (I just did!) Iooked > at some MS-DOS sources. I mailed to Jim that I had been reading it. He > doesn't want me to

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2 beta

2016-01-04 Thread Maarten Vermeulen
Hi Mateusz, Thank you, I will read all. I start as soon as possible (either this evening or tommorrow) Maarten -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: "Mateusz Viste" Verzonden: ‎4-‎1-‎2016 08:24 Aan: "freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net" Onderwerp: Re: [Freedos-devel]

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2 beta

2016-01-03 Thread Mateusz Viste
now I can't do that. > > Van: Jerome E. Shidel Jr. <mailto:jer...@shidel.net> > Verzonden: ‎3-‎1-‎2016 23:12 > Aan: Technical discussion and questions for FreeDOS developers. > <mailto:freedos-dev

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2 beta

2016-01-03 Thread Maarten Vermeulen
"Technical discussion and questions for FreeDOS developers." Onderwerp: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2 beta The new FreeDOS batch file based installer (FDI) has been done for a while now and I have used it to install FreeDOS multiple times. Since, it just uses Mateusz’s repo disc image fo

[Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2 beta

2016-01-03 Thread Jerome E. Shidel Jr.
The new FreeDOS batch file based installer (FDI) has been done for a while now and I have used it to install FreeDOS multiple times. Since, it just uses Mateusz’s repo disc image for packages and is not FreeDOS 1.1, I consider it a FreeDOS 1.2 preview/alpha version. It would be nice to have a F

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2 ALL packages

2015-12-22 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Tue, Dec 22, 2015 at 5:20 AM, Eric Auer wrote: > > while DJGPP is rather large, in particular if you include > lots of sub-packages, I think FPC (Pascal) and FreeBASIC > can be a lot smaller to install and OpenWatcom C in the > middle... Also, I would assume that LFN drivers are part > of

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2 ALL packages

2015-12-22 Thread Tom Ehlert
> while DJGPP is rather large, in particular if you include > lots of sub-packages, I think FPC (Pascal) and FreeBASIC > can be a lot smaller to install and OpenWatcom C in the > middle... Also, I would assume that LFN drivers are part > of the ALL install, so why not install ALL compilers? :-) b

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2 ALL packages

2015-12-22 Thread Eric Auer
Hi Rugxulo, while DJGPP is rather large, in particular if you include lots of sub-packages, I think FPC (Pascal) and FreeBASIC can be a lot smaller to install and OpenWatcom C in the middle... Also, I would assume that LFN drivers are part of the ALL install, so why not install ALL compilers? :-)

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2 ALL packages

2015-12-21 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Sun, Dec 20, 2015 at 11:52 PM, Mateusz Viste wrote: > On 21/12/2015 00:02, Rugxulo wrote: > >>> devel\fpc >> >> 3.0.0 was released recently, but there is no "package" for it yet. > > Same goes for DJGPP. And FreeBASIC. And surely many more packages. This > is one of the issues that I point

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2 ALL packages

2015-12-21 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Mon, Dec 21, 2015 at 7:49 AM, Jerome E. Shidel Jr. wrote: > >> On Dec 21, 2015, at 12:52 AM, Mateusz Viste wrote: >> devel\fpc >>> >>> 3.0.0 was released recently, but there is no "package" for it yet. >> >> Same goes for DJGPP. And FreeBASIC. And surely many more packages. This >> i

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2 ALL packages

2015-12-21 Thread Jerome E. Shidel Jr.
> On Dec 21, 2015, at 12:52 AM, Mateusz Viste wrote: > > On 21/12/2015 00:02, Rugxulo wrote: >>> util\fdnpkg >> >> Presumably latest here? (0.99.4 "<8 hours ago", according to SF.net page) > > Good catch! I did release (silently) FDNPKG to v0.99.4 yesterday. Since > it contains nothing big fr

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2 ALL packages

2015-12-21 Thread Jerome E. Shidel Jr.
> On Dec 20, 2015, at 6:02 PM, Rugxulo wrote: > > Hi, > > On Sun, Dec 20, 2015 at 3:55 PM, Jerome E. Shidel Jr. > wrote: >> >> This is the list of the ALL package list for the FDI installer. >> >> Please let me know if I should anything else or remove something. >> >> Also, V8Power Tools i

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2 ALL packages

2015-12-21 Thread Jerome E. Shidel Jr.
> On Dec 20, 2015, at 5:45 PM, Antony Gordon wrote: > > Hi, > > An assembler and a Pascal compiler. Missing BASIC and C/C++. > > I don’t use Basic or C(s). :-) > That would make the programming languages complete. You should probably > mention sources for all packages in the "everything" i

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2 ALL packages

2015-12-20 Thread Mateusz Viste
On 21/12/2015 00:02, Rugxulo wrote: >> util\fdnpkg > > Presumably latest here? (0.99.4 "<8 hours ago", according to SF.net page) Good catch! I did release (silently) FDNPKG to v0.99.4 yesterday. Since it contains nothing big from the user's point of view, I didn't feel that it justify announcing

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2 BASE packages

2015-12-20 Thread Mateusz Viste
On 20/12/2015 23:48, Rugxulo wrote: > ("BASE" does have both "uide" and "xmgr" but not "udvd2", so I'm not > sure why we don't just combine all that RDISK+UIDE+XMGR (etc.) into > one package) I think that was me who exploded this into different packages. The rationale was that when users look for

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2 ALL packages

2015-12-20 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Sun, Dec 20, 2015 at 3:55 PM, Jerome E. Shidel Jr. wrote: > > This is the list of the ALL package list for the FDI installer. > > Please let me know if I should anything else or remove something. > > Also, V8Power Tools is also installed when ALL is selected. > > This list includes all pac

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2 BASE packages

2015-12-20 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Sun, Dec 20, 2015 at 4:41 PM, Antony Gordon wrote: > > Given the changes in DOS since 2.X until now, Edlin and EXE2BIN should be > optional. DOS 5 replaced Edlin with EDIT and EXE2BIN wasn't included with > DOS after 3.3 or 4.01. DOS also stopped providing LINK.EXE around that time, too.

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2 BASE packages

2015-12-20 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, I don't know how useful this is (esp. this late in the release process), but On Sun, Dec 20, 2015 at 3:52 PM, Jerome E. Shidel Jr. wrote: > This is the list of the BASE Packages for the FDI installer. > > Please let me know if I left anything out or should remove something. > > base\appe

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2 ALL packages

2015-12-20 Thread Antony Gordon
Hi, An assembler and a Pascal compiler. Missing BASIC and C/C++. That would make the programming languages complete. You should probably mention sources for all packages in the "everything" install. Base should just reference that the sources are on the install media. IIRC, most Linux distributi

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2 BASE packages

2015-12-20 Thread Antony Gordon
Hi, Given the changes in DOS since 2.X until now, Edlin and EXE2BIN should be optional. DOS 5 replaced Edlin with EDIT and EXE2BIN wasn't included with DOS after 3.3 or 4.01. Which memory manager offers the most compatibility? FDXMS or HIMEMX? -T On Sun, Dec 20, 2015, 4:53 PM Jerome E. Shidel J

[Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2 ALL packages

2015-12-20 Thread Jerome E. Shidel Jr.
This is the list of the ALL package list for the FDI installer. Please let me know if I should anything else or remove something. Also, V8Power Tools is also installed when ALL is selected. This list includes all packages in the BASE. I just did not include them here to shorten the list. ; Th

[Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2 BASE packages

2015-12-20 Thread Jerome E. Shidel Jr.
This is the list of the BASE Packages for the FDI installer. Please note that I switched out UIDE for UDVD2. UIDE was causing strange disk errors with FDINST and with FreeCOM. Remember this is the Minimalist, MS-DOS functionality only BASE for FreeDOS 1.2. Please let me know if I left anything o

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2

2015-11-25 Thread Maarten Vermeulen
s." Onderwerp: Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2 If it's just for the installer itself, it shouldn't be much text at all. In fact, a few KB may be all that's needed for all the supported languages. Now, if one were to broaden multi-language support to the entire OS, the

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2

2015-11-25 Thread Mercury Thirteen
24-‎11-‎2015 15:22 Aan: Technical discussion and questions for FreeDOS developers. <mailto:freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net> Onderwerp: Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2 On Tue, 24 Nov 2015, Geraldo Netto wrote: > well, nyc feels a lot like sao paulo (

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2

2015-11-25 Thread netraam70
-devel] FreeDOS 1.2 I am just a bit worried that our OS will be HUGE due to the language resources.A few KB is fine,hopefully it doesn't go above that. On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 6:24 PM, Mercury Thirteen wrote: Thanks for the shout! :) Many (most?) OSs have sets of strings in their res

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2

2015-11-25 Thread JAYDEN CHARBONNEAU
ere >> -------------- >> Van: Steve Nickolas >> Verzonden: ‎24-‎11-‎2015 15:22 >> Aan: Technical discussion and questions for FreeDOS developers. >> >> Onderwerp: Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2 >> >> On Tue, 24 Nov 2015, Geraldo Netto wro

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2

2015-11-24 Thread Mercury Thirteen
-- Van: Steve Nickolas <mailto:usots...@buric.co> Verzonden: ‎24-‎11-‎2015 15:22 Aan: Technical discussion and questions for FreeDOS developers. <mailto:freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net> Onderwerp: Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2 On Tue, 24 Nov 2015,

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2

2015-11-24 Thread JAYDEN CHARBONNEAU
> There are always people that are unkind... > Everywhere > -- > Van: Steve Nickolas > Verzonden: ‎24-‎11-‎2015 15:22 > Aan: Technical discussion and questions for FreeDOS developers. > > Onderwerp: Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2 > > On T

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2

2015-11-24 Thread Maarten Vermeulen
There are always people that are unkind... Everywhere -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: "Steve Nickolas" Verzonden: ‎24-‎11-‎2015 15:22 Aan: "Technical discussion and questions for FreeDOS developers." Onderwerp: Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2 On Tue, 24 Nov 2015,

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2

2015-11-24 Thread Maarten Vermeulen
have cockatiels: 'knaagje' and 'eddy'). Now you all know who I am Maarten -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: "Geraldo Netto" Verzonden: ‎24-‎11-‎2015 15:02 Aan: "Technical discussion and questions for FreeDOS developers." Onderwerp: Re: [Freedos-

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2

2015-11-24 Thread Steve Nickolas
On Tue, 24 Nov 2015, Geraldo Netto wrote: > well, nyc feels a lot like sao paulo (where i was born/live now), huge > city, unkind/always-in-a-rush people (imho) Doesn't have to be a big city to have that kind of attitude, Niagara Falls has a lot of jerks too... -uso. --

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2

2015-11-24 Thread Geraldo Netto
lo > Verzonden: ‎24-‎11-‎2015 00:21 > Aan: Technical discussion and questions for FreeDOS developers. > Onderwerp: Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2 > > Hi, > > On Mon, Nov 23, 2015 at 8:13 AM, Maarten Vermeulen > wrote: >> >> For those that didn't know,

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2

2015-11-24 Thread Geraldo Netto
Hello Mateusz/All, How are you doing? Well, no one reported any issue until now So, we can upload the translations Regarding the update itself, whatever works best for you is okay for me :) In case you prefer the svn, my source forge user is geraldonetto Also, i have checked Alain's translation

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2

2015-11-23 Thread Maarten Vermeulen
21 Aan: "Technical discussion and questions for FreeDOS developers." Onderwerp: Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2 Hi, On Mon, Nov 23, 2015 at 8:13 AM, Maarten Vermeulen wrote: > > For those that didn't know, English is the second language in the > Netherlands. Everyone l

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2

2015-11-23 Thread Steve Nickolas
On Mon, 23 Nov 2015, Rugxulo wrote: > Not exactly enlightening, and they don't teach much foreign language > in schools here, only bare minimum, usually only the same ol' (pardon) > "boring" languages: Spanish, French, etc. In fact, I double-checked > online, one of the biggest local universities

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2

2015-11-23 Thread Rugxulo
Hi again, On Mon, Nov 23, 2015 at 5:21 PM, Rugxulo wrote: > > Let's check WinRAR to see what languages it (still) supports: Oops! How the heck did I screw that up?? (Trying to remove the uninteresting redundancy of "32 bit / 64 bit".) Bah, let me try again: Albanian Arabic Armenian Belarusian B

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2

2015-11-23 Thread JAYDEN CHARBONNEAU
If it's any help,I speak in binary (No literally) in one of my Computer Physics classes.We have to translate our conversations into binary (ASCII to BINARY).I swear,my instructor has a stick of RAM in her head or something.She speaks in binary like it is a natural LANGUAGE.(This is off topic,but it

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2

2015-11-23 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Mon, Nov 23, 2015 at 8:13 AM, Maarten Vermeulen wrote: > > For those that didn't know, English is the second language in the > Netherlands. Everyone learns it on school and needs to do exam with it. 80% > of the Dutch people talk/write English. Also on school you learn German. I got my fl

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2

2015-11-23 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Mon, Nov 23, 2015 at 2:00 PM, Maarten Vermeulen wrote: > > And sorry... But here is another one! :) > If you put German in it you have al the germanic languages: > > English > German > Dutch > :D Didn't we discuss this once before? Am I wrong or doesn't Dutch sit between English and Germa

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