Re: [Freedos-user] getting applications working
Aitor wrote: If you refer to the cursor blinking bug that was supposed to appear on 0.9a, so far I only know of a single PC of a single user 2 PC's from 6 ... one user (talking for me for now) bug appears (apparently the user had some problem with his BIOS) But nobody had so far an idea what the BIOS could do wrong or how to test it (while you can test the 128-sector-BUG or the VESA-B.S.-readout-BUG for example) Frankly in my opinion the mouse pointer has always blinked too much (in ALL versions of EDIT), and it is in my todo list (of short-term changes). Good, let's just wait :-) mouse cursor invisible on some PC's some? Do you have evidences of it to happen in more than ONE PC just 2 -- ~~~ wow ~~~ -- Come build with us! The BlackBerry(R) Developer Conference in SF, CA is the only developer event you need to attend this year. Jumpstart your developing skills, take BlackBerry mobile applications to market and stay ahead of the curve. Join us from November 9 - 12, 2009. Register now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/devconference ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] getting applications working
Hello, 2009/6/6 LM lme...@yahoo.com: I had to run the install CD twice to get FreeDOS installed on the hard drive. The first time, I tried to pick an image on bootup and the system locked up. Second time, I left it as default. I guess I'm not very familiar with the programs that installed with FreeDOS (other than the basic DOS stuff), because I got on and wasn't sure where to get started. I have a large cabinet full of legacy hardware and software, so I decided perhaps I should go back to the programs on DOS I'm most familiar with just to get going. My experience was that about half of the ones i tried on FreeDOS worked. to pick an image on bootup, what do you mean? WordPerfect 6.0 appears to work fine. Was very happy to see that. My favorite DOS programming editor (ftp://garbo.uwasa.fi/pc/editor/edwin15c.zip) fails and won't run. Has anyone been able to get edwin working on FreeDOS? A pitty that garbo seems to be unreachable from here right now, if someone knows of an alternative download site... Aitor -- ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
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Hello, 2009/6/13 dos386 dos...@gmail.com: Notable things: edit buggy (some PC's) Can you post any more information about those bugs? If you refer to the cursor blinking bug that was supposed to appear on 0.9a, so far I only know of a single PC of a single user where this bug appears (apparently the user had some problem with his BIOS). Frankly in my opinion the mouse pointer has always blinked too much (in ALL versions of EDIT), and it is in my todo list (of short-term changes). Any other bug reports are appreciated. Aitor -- ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
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Hello, 2009/6/14 dos386 dos...@gmail.com: Hi! buggy (some PC's) Who what where? RTFB ... mouse cursor invisible on some PC's some? Do you have evidences of it to happen in more than ONE PC where it was discovered? Aitor -- ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] getting applications working
Hi! buggy (some PC's) Who what where? RTFB ... mouse cursor invisible on some PC's But there is a tool which has the name DISPLAY and There are simply too many DISPLAY's ... I mean the one from 1998 by ??? done with DGJPP closed source freeware Mplayer can also play pure audio files. On Linux maybe. In DOS NOT with PCI cards. RTFM: --really-quiet Interesting problem! Of course mplayer in X / Linux uses separate windows for text and graphics, but in DOS it is important to know that the text will most likely Not most likely , but definitely Maybe there is a more general solution to this? Let the text scroll at the bottom of the screen or sth? If you can modify the source and compile it YES, and I would heavily appreciate. But rather than scroll brew 2 gfx screens, 1 with text and 1 with video, and switch them. Also, all text should go into 1 stream (rather than stdout stderr stdtrouble ...) and allow to save it COMPLETE. Now --really-quiet is not REALLY quiet, but at least sufficiently quiet. partition FAT16 and smaller than 1 GB, but I do not think that FAT32 will be extremely bad for performance. The bigger the FAT ... -- ~~~ wow ~~~ -- Crystal Reports - New Free Runtime and 30 Day Trial Check out the new simplified licensing option that enables unlimited royalty-free distribution of the report engine for externally facing server and web deployment. http://p.sf.net/sfu/businessobjects ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] getting applications working
dos386 wrote: But there is a tool which has the name DISPLAY and There are simply too many DISPLAY's ... I mean the one from 1998 by ??? done with DGJPP closed source freeware ??? = Jih-Shin Ho Robert Riebisch -- BTTR Software http://www.bttr-software.de/ -- Crystal Reports - New Free Runtime and 30 Day Trial Check out the new simplified licensing option that enables unlimited royalty-free distribution of the report engine for externally facing server and web deployment. http://p.sf.net/sfu/businessobjects ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
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Notable things: edit buggy (some PC's) perl NOMYSO ??? Georg Potthast is also doing experiments with a player for new hardware. His driver now can play from memory so it became a real driver :-) * BOCHS emulator (host OS = emulated OS = DOS) Or any other emulator, of course QEMU or BOCHS only (BOCHS is slower and better) Is there a PNG viewer for FreeDOS? I guess you could use DISPLAY from our ImageMagick port DISPLAY works for 95% of PNG's ... NOT from ImageMagick port I also tried mplayer. For video, not sound. Seemed to work without crashing, although the display jittered and there was a lot of text in the background. RTFM: --really-quiet Is there a version of vlc or xine that works on DOS? VLC is very buggy (a few bugs got fixed ... but we are at 1.0rc4, not 0.20 ...) and the GUI is horrible. I'm not aware of any efforts to port it to DOS. The only benefit of VLC is OGG Dirac support. Don't need Qbasic, just basic. ??? Does FreeBASIC only compile or can it run programs in interpreted mode? Compile only. HIMEM to HIMEMX, EMM386 to nothing or JEMM Is there a web site or a how to with instructions on how to switch some of these and which ones to use? A sample fdconfig.sys with some of these would be nice. REM DEVICE=HIMEMX.EXE DEVICE=HIMEMX.EXE /NUMHANDLES=72 REM DEVICE=XMGR.SYS REM DEVICE=EMM386.EXE NOEMS DEVICE=SRDXMS.SYS DEVICE=XDMA.SYS 2?DEVICE=C:\FDOS\USBDISK.SYS and then ran dosuhci. Update DOSUHCI to DOSUSB. It crashed or hung a lot. Confirm. did finally manage to get a directory of my e: drive (USB flash drive). The first time I try dir e: on a drive it takes an incredibly long time to run, like 5 minutes A well known FAT28 design fault Does size of the USB drive affect how well it performs? Huge FAT28 is evil. Was wondering if I should stay with the smaller drives so it might display the directory faster? YES. 1 GiB FAT16 Hope this gets less buggy in future releases (of FreeDOS and the USB driver). Me too. AFAIK fault of USB driver rather than DOS. -- ~~~ wow ~~~ -- Crystal Reports - New Free Runtime and 30 Day Trial Check out the new simplified licensing option that enables unlimited royalty-free distribution of the report engine for externally facing server and web deployment. http://p.sf.net/sfu/businessobjects ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
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Hi, I tried compiling lcal and pcal (at Sourceforge) yesterday and both built fine with djgpp, but they have a djgpp makefile already. I also tried diffh (also at Sourceforge) with djgpp. Had to copy the makefiles and .Tpo files from the mingw build over in order to get it to compile, but then it built. Any good place to share applications or what patches are needed to get them building? I think learning from those makefiles is the easiest way. One problem is sometimes, that the libraries which are needed aren't available for DJGPP. But I think Robert and others know more. :-) Bye Flo -- OpenSolaris 2009.06 is a cutting edge operating system for enterprises looking to deploy the next generation of Solaris that includes the latest innovations from Sun and the OpenSource community. Download a copy and enjoy capabilities such as Networking, Storage and Virtualization. Go to: http://p.sf.net/sfu/opensolaris-get ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] getting applications working
Hi! Known problem, the 1.0 distro is obsolete and buggy ... Feel free to make a list of bugs that should be fixed in 1.1 :-) In the meantime, try http://rugxulog.googlepages.com/ - for example most CD/DVD burning tools should let you use the 2.88MB diskette image to make a bootable CD/DVD... Make sure to update the kernel, HIMEM to HIMEMX, EMM386 to nothing or JEMM, CTMOUSE, ... http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/fdupdate/ and http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/fdupdate/wip/ has a big pile of other things you can update, and a tool for it :-) Notable things: 4dos shell clam antivirus ctmouse devload (needs further update) chkdsk / defrag / fdisk (needs further update) edit fdapm gcdrom jemm386 himem kernel perl undelete (further update needed?) I sort of miss UIDE there and some highlighting which tells which of the updates are newer than FreeDOS 1.0, Mateusz? :-) (PS: Can you also recommend Realtek RTL8139 on your DOS page?) Forget to check if there was a wave file player that came installed with FreeDOS. What do others use to play those files? MPXPLAY. Georg Potthast is also doing experiments with a player for new hardware. Also, could not play MOD files. My favorite program sound2 (based on SoundTracker), just hangs. Any recommendations on a good mod file player? Inertia Player might be an idea, it can play in the background and I believe you can even tell it to use the internal speaker? WOW by Jan Ole Suhr can use the internal speaker, too :-) I couldn't help thinking Timidity++ would be great for playing midi and mod files. It works even without a sound card Timidity renders Midi plus instrument definitions into wave data, but you still need a soundcard to play the wave in the end. You only do not need something that understands midi in hardware on your soundcard if you have timidity. No wavetable or fm, adlib, opl3 chip needed, in other words. I also think that timidity needs too much infrastructure to run in DOS as a driver, but it could be easier to make it work as command line converter from midi file to wav file or similar... I have a ton of old BASIC programs. Any recommendations on a good BASIC interpreter? No, get FreeBASIC compiler. There are some interpreters but... FreeBASIC usually works very well and it has a QBASIC compat mode :-) Is there a good way to slow down old DOS games like pinball? * SLOWDOWN (at your risk, I don't use it) You can also try the FDAPM SPEEDn options for ACPI throttle. If your PC gets stuck, you can always use the keep power button pressed trick to get a forced power cycle :-). * BOCHS emulator (host OS = emulated OS = DOS) Or any other emulator, of course :-) My favorite DOS programming editor (ftp://garbo.uwasa.fi/pc/editor/edwin15c.zip) fails and won't run. Has anyone been able to get edwin working on FreeDOS? Please describe the failure in more detail. Tried with minimal drivers, HIMEM or HIMEMX and nothing else? Is there a PNG viewer for FreeDOS? I guess you could use DISPLAY from our ImageMagick port, but did not try that myself. Please report :-) YES: www.unet.univie.ac.at/~a0503736/php/drdoswiki/index.php?n=Main.GraphPaintCAD I tried an old copy of Pictview and it seems to work well on most graphics types but lacked PNG support. Eric -- OpenSolaris 2009.06 is a cutting edge operating system for enterprises looking to deploy the next generation of Solaris that includes the latest innovations from Sun and the OpenSource community. Download a copy and enjoy capabilities such as Networking, Storage and Virtualization. Go to: http://p.sf.net/sfu/opensolaris-get ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
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On Saturday 06 June 2009 14:22 (CEST), LM wrote: I couldn't help thinking Timidity++ would be great for playing midi and mod files. It works even without a sound card and has pdcurses and ncurses interfaces. Has anyone had any luck porting Timidity++ to DOS? On the other hand, there is a player which does a similar job (ie plays MIDI files using on-disk instruments, without needing a MIDI-aware soundcard) - search for OpenCubic Player ;-) You'll need also GUS instruments to make it work with MIDI (I can provide you GUS files if you won't be able to find them). I have a ton of old BASIC programs. Any recommendations on a good BASIC interpreter? I've tried some Open Source ones in the past on other platforms, but they didn't seem to fully support all the commands the programs would need to run. FreeBASIC. Definitely. Is there a good way to slow down old DOS games like pinball? I remember trying programs like whoa on years ago and they didn't seem to work well for what I needed. Try FDAPM, or search for slowdos. Is there a PNG viewer for FreeDOS? I tried an old copy of Pictview and it seems to work well on most graphics types but lacked PNG support. Personally, I am using the wonderful Sea DOS Viewer. It is shreware software (not free), sorry. One last question. Is there a good forum or mailing list for discussing porting/compiling Open Source applications to DOS? Sure. You just posted to such mailing list ;-) Best regards, Mateusz Viste -- You'll find my public OpenPGP key at http://www.viste-family.net/mateusz/pub_key signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- OpenSolaris 2009.06 is a cutting edge operating system for enterprises looking to deploy the next generation of Solaris that includes the latest innovations from Sun and the OpenSource community. Download a copy and enjoy capabilities such as Networking, Storage and Virtualization. Go to: http://p.sf.net/sfu/opensolaris-get___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
[Freedos-user] getting applications working
If you update FreeDOS, in accordance with the update list noted by Eric Auer, do consider adding the UIDE or UIDEJR driver, also XMGR and RDISK if desired. They are avail- able from http://johnson.tmfc.net/dos/driver.html, also from other Internet sources. UIDEJR is a basic hard-disk and CD/DVD driver. It can run SATA or IDE disk/CD/DVD drives, in many cases about 2 times as fast as BIOS logic for disks or older PIO mode drivers for CD/DVD drives.UIDEJR replaces the GCDROM, XCDROM, and XDMA drivers, offering faster performance via use of an XMS buffer for I-O not suited to UltraDMA. UIDE adds caching for disk/diskette/CD/DVD drives and has the same device-handler capability as UIDEJR. Its cache makes UIDE about 2 times faster than UIDEJR for both disk and CD/DVD drives. UIDE can cache 5-MB to 2-GB of data! UIDE/UIDEJR take about 5K/3K of upper-memory on a FreeDOS system, that does not provide HMA space to drivers loaded by the CONFIG.SYS file. If desired, Eric Auer's DEVLOAD can be used to load them from the AUTOEXEC.BAT file, thus reducing UIDE/UIDEJR to 992/768 bytes of upper-memory and the rest occupying HMA space. JEMM386 is recommended for extra upper-memory, DPMI/VCPI, or if any protected mode applications are used.If a simple real mode system is wanted, the UMBPCI driver by Uwe Sieber and the XMGR driver (offered with UIDE) can be used. XMGR has built-in features to support the Shadow RAM memory used by UMBPCI, which does not allow DMA. See the README file for XMGR/RDISK/UIDE for some examples of CONFIG.SYS files that can load these drivers. -- OpenSolaris 2009.06 is a cutting edge operating system for enterprises looking to deploy the next generation of Solaris that includes the latest innovations from Sun and the OpenSource community. Download a copy and enjoy capabilities such as Networking, Storage and Virtualization. Go to: http://p.sf.net/sfu/opensolaris-get ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
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Jack schreef: If you update FreeDOS, in accordance with the update list noted by Eric Auer, do consider adding the UIDE or UIDEJR driver, also XMGR and RDISK if desired. They are avail- able from http://johnson.tmfc.net/dos/driver.html, also from other Internet sources. We'll surely add them, as they are the de-facto only usable legally freely distributable and good working cd-rom drivers. I guess this means we'll be able to drop the old sets of PCI UDMA drivers and cdrom-drivers as well, though I can remember using some of them to get a more stable pci-bus set up. (more initialisation done than standard PCI by BIOS) Your integration with JEMM/JEMMEX is a quite nice feature. Bernd -- OpenSolaris 2009.06 is a cutting edge operating system for enterprises looking to deploy the next generation of Solaris that includes the latest innovations from Sun and the OpenSource community. Download a copy and enjoy capabilities such as Networking, Storage and Virtualization. Go to: http://p.sf.net/sfu/opensolaris-get ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] getting applications working
Hi Bernd, Jack, Jack schreef: If you update FreeDOS, in accordance with the update list noted by Eric Auer, do consider adding the UIDE or UIDEJR driver, also XMGR and RDISK if desired. They are avail- able from http://johnson.tmfc.net/dos/driver.html, also from other Internet sources. We'll surely add them, as they are the de-facto only usable legally freely distributable and good working cd-rom drivers. I agree - you could also use XCDROM / GCDROM / XGCDROM but with UIDE or UIDEJR you get a newer version with better maintenance and small memory footprint :-). Bernd, maybe you could make FDPKG / installer / FDUPDATE compatible packages for the Mateusz and his fdupdate repository? My hope is that at some point we can throw a nice collection of fdupdate packages over our 1.0 ISO to instantly have an almost complete FreeDOS 1.1 ISO at little effort :-). I guess this means we'll be able to drop the old sets of PCI UDMA drivers and cdrom-drivers as well, though I can remember using some of them to get a more stable pci-bus set up. (more initialisation done than standard PCI by BIOS) Interesting, but using BIOS is more compatible, I hope. What I miss in UIDE is support for BIOS Eltorito disk access of the CD/DVD you booted from. Similar to the ELTORITO SYS from Bart L, hopefully with similar list of BIOS bug workarounds of which there seem to be many in the driver from Bart ;-). That would make UIDE even more universal for CD/DVD access in DOS :-). Eric -- OpenSolaris 2009.06 is a cutting edge operating system for enterprises looking to deploy the next generation of Solaris that includes the latest innovations from Sun and the OpenSource community. Download a copy and enjoy capabilities such as Networking, Storage and Virtualization. Go to: http://p.sf.net/sfu/opensolaris-get ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
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My favorite DOS programming editor (ftp://garbo.uwasa.fi/pc/editor/edwin15c.zip) fails and won't run. Has anyone been able to get edwin working on FreeDOS? Eric Auer wrote: Please describe the failure in more detail. Tried with minimal drivers, HIMEM or HIMEMX and nothing else? Tried it with the out-of-the-box FreeDOS setup in fdconfig.sys. So whatever it set up, I used. I tried each of the 3 boot options at the beginning. Every time I run the program it says it can't find the overlay file. The install program says it can't find the edwin.com program. The files all sitting in the same directory. If you want, you can pull down the program from the garbo archive and see if it does any better on your machine. I even tried running it with HX extender and got the same results. Any good text/programming editors that can handle switching between multiple documents and with good keymapping support? I really need an editor I can remap the command keys with since I'm pretty used to using certain key sequences. I guess I can always get by on edit or pico or nano if I can't find anything else. One place I worked, we used to use Brief. It was a nice programming editor. Mateusz Viste wrote: You'll need also GUS instruments to make it work with MIDI (I can provide you GUS files if you won't be able to find them). Timidity can also work with GUS patches. I have the FreePats standard GUS patch distribution. FreePats is the only group I've found that's working on Open Source patch and sf2 files. By the way, they need volunteers. So, if anyone can record some instruments to share or wants to help out in any way, please let them know. The FreePats project site is: http://freepats.zenvoid.org/ Found copies of Timidity for DOS: http://sca.uwaterloo.ca/www.cgs.fi/tt/timidity/distribution.html Now I just have to try to get it set up properly. That's usually a nuisance. Tried mpxplay. Works fine on my machine for midi files. Any good Karaoke players out there (for kar files)? I'll see if I can get Timidity working for that purpose, but there's a recent patch for midi karaoke (kar) files created with abc2midi that I'm sure never made it into the older builds of the program. I also tried mplayer. Seemed to work without crashing, although the display jittered and there was a lot of text in the background. Is there a version of vlc or xine that works on DOS? dos386 wrote: No, get FreeBASIC compiler. There are some interpreters but... Eric Auer wrote: FreeBASIC usually works very well and it has a QBASIC compat mode :-) Don't need Qbasic, just basic. Does FreeBASIC only compile or can it run programs in interpreted mode? Would prefer interpreted. I still have my Microsoft Basic Professional Compiler for DOS. I bought the last version before they switched to Visual Basic. Any big differences between it and FreeBASIC as far as building programs? I tried out some old applications I'd built using my Basic compiler on FreeDOS. All of them seemed to run. Only issue was with sound, which doesn't appear to be working using the BASIC commands. I downloaded the latest version of pictview plus many of the files at http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/fdupdate/ Didn't see any instructions on how to update. Hope unziping in the \FDOS directory is okay, because that's what I did. Still appears to be booting and running okay. Eric Auer wrote: HIMEM to HIMEMX, EMM386 to nothing or JEMM Is there a web site or a how to with instructions on how to switch some of these and which ones to use? A sample fdconfig.sys with some of these would be nice. I've been trying for a few days now to get USB working. Checked out the FreeDOS wiki on the subject and the sites it pointed to and some others the search engine brought up. Tried at least 4 different methods. Nothing seemed to work. I tried again after updating the kernel and other files today. I put the following in my fdconfig.sys: 2?DEVICE=C:\FDOS\USBDISK.SYS and then ran dosuhci. It crashed or hung a lot. I did finally manage to get a directory of my e: drive (USB flash drive). The first time I try dir e: on a drive it takes an incredibly long time to run, like 5 minutes or more. Once it showed the directory for a first time, performance got a little better. However, trying to get a directory of my CD when this stuff is loaded crashed my system. Any tips on getting better performance from a USB drive? I'm thrilled I can at least get a directory some of the time and it seems to be able to copy some files. Does size of the USB drive affect how well it performs? Was wondering if I should stay with the smaller drives so it might display the directory faster? Hope this gets less buggy in future releases (of FreeDOS and the USB driver). One last question. Is there a good forum or mailing list for discussing porting/compiling Open Source applications to DOS? Mateusz Viste
Re: [Freedos-user] getting applications working
I guess this means we'll be able to drop the old sets of PCI UDMA drivers and cdrom-drivers as well, though I can remember using some of them to get a more stable pci-bus set up. (more initialisation done than standard PCI by BIOS) Interesting, but using BIOS is more compatible, I hope. I agree. Since about 2006, my UltraDMA drivers have not tried to alter any BIOS settings. In a few cases, doing so caused a system to HANG. Unsure why, but to be safe, the drivers will now accept whatever UltraDMA/PIO modes and other disk settings the BIOS makes. Most BIOS logic is quite accurate at handling the PCI bus these days, but some BIOS programs still OMIT any Virtual DMA logic and force disks to use PIO for JEMM386 or protected mode. This is why at least UIDEJR is still needed. What I miss in UIDE is support for BIOS Eltorito disk access of the CD/DVD you booted from. Similar to the ELTORITO SYS from Bart L, hopefully with similar list of BIOS bug workarounds of which there seem to be many in the driver from Bart ;-). That would make UIDE even more universal for CD/DVD access in DOS :-). Bernd suggested this to me privately, earlier today. I am currently modifying UIDEJR so Bernd can use it in his automatic-loader scripts -- UIDEJR will not hook the Int 13h vector if no disks are used, will declare a name of UIDEJR$ overriding the /D: name if no CD/DVD drives are found, and will have /N3 to work without XMS memory. Had it working but by-mistake ERASED my hard disk today, so I must reconstruct the new driver from memory; I have CD/RW backups for all else. After that, and maybe some similar UIDE changes, THEN I can look at El Torito! -- OpenSolaris 2009.06 is a cutting edge operating system for enterprises looking to deploy the next generation of Solaris that includes the latest innovations from Sun and the OpenSource community. Download a copy and enjoy capabilities such as Networking, Storage and Virtualization. Go to: http://p.sf.net/sfu/opensolaris-get ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
[Freedos-user] getting applications working
I've been tracking FreeDOS development on and off for years. I finally had an excuse to install FreeDOS on one of my computers when I found it didn't have enough memory to run many of the newer operating systems. I have a Sony PCG-F540 laptop 500 MHz with 64 MB RAM and a 6 Gig hard disk. It has a Yamaha DS-XG sound card and Conexant 56K modem built in. I had to run the install CD twice to get FreeDOS installed on the hard drive. The first time, I tried to pick an image on bootup and the system locked up. Second time, I left it as default. I guess I'm not very familiar with the programs that installed with FreeDOS (other than the basic DOS stuff), because I got on and wasn't sure where to get started. I have a large cabinet full of legacy hardware and software, so I decided perhaps I should go back to the programs on DOS I'm most familiar with just to get going. My experience was that about half of the ones i tried on FreeDOS worked. I remember using Procomm Plus on my DOS PCs when I used to want to get my modem working. Tried my old version of Procomm Plus. The setup program works. The actual program fails. Anyone been able to get a version of Procomm Plus or even Procomm working? Any pointers to 'how to' documents on setting up one's modem? Going through my old sound programs, was surprised some of my Sound Blaster stuff worked with this sound card. Hadn't been able to get a lot of those programs working in years. CMF and ROL work really well. I have a couple of really good programs for playing those. Am having trouble with Wave files. Forget to check if there was a wave file player that came installed with FreeDOS. What do others use to play those files? Also, could not play MOD files. My favorite program sound2 (based on SoundTracker), just hangs. Any recommendations on a good mod file player? I couldn't help thinking Timidity++ would be great for playing midi and mod files. It works even without a sound card and has pdcurses and ncurses interfaces. Has anyone had any luck porting Timidity++ to DOS? Was thrilled to see my favorite ABC programs. One thing I don't have to try to convert. Was surprised I didn't see a program like midicomp (http://freepats.zenvoid.org/tools/midicomp/) though. Will have to see if I can get a version to compile. I have a ton of old BASIC programs. Any recommendations on a good BASIC interpreter? I've tried some Open Source ones in the past on other platforms, but they didn't seem to fully support all the commands the programs would need to run. Is there a good way to slow down old DOS games like pinball? I remember trying programs like whoa on years ago and they didn't seem to work well for what I needed. WordPerfect 6.0 appears to work fine. Was very happy to see that. My favorite DOS programming editor (ftp://garbo.uwasa.fi/pc/editor/edwin15c.zip) fails and won't run. Has anyone been able to get edwin working on FreeDOS? Is there a PNG viewer for FreeDOS? I tried an old copy of Pictview and it seems to work well on most graphics types but lacked PNG support. Some of my old PC Magazine and Big Blue utilities worked fine, like snapshot and dirmatch. However, the fireworks construction kit on one of my Big Blue disks just gives up and won't run past the intro screen. One last question. Is there a good forum or mailing list for discussing porting/compiling Open Source applications to DOS? There are several command line and a few pdcurses applicatons I like. Would be interested to see how many work on FreeDOS. I'd rather not reinvent the wheel and try to build them if someone's already done it though. Was thinking about trying applications like diffh, starchart, gle, midicomp, lcal, pcal, passwordsafe or pwsafe, diction, sdcv, gsar and a few others if I have the time. Still trying to get my bearings with FreeDOS, so any pointers to documentation, how-to's, etc. greatly appreciated. Thanks. Sincerely Laura http://www.distasis.com/cpp -- OpenSolaris 2009.06 is a cutting edge operating system for enterprises looking to deploy the next generation of Solaris that includes the latest innovations from Sun and the OpenSource community. Download a copy and enjoy capabilities such as Networking, Storage and Virtualization. Go to: http://p.sf.net/sfu/opensolaris-get ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] getting applications working
Hi, One last question. Is there a good forum or mailing list for discussing porting/compiling Open Source applications to DOS? There are several command line and a few pdcurses applicatons I like. Would be interested to see how many work on FreeDOS. I'd rather not reinvent the wheel and try to build them if someone's already done it though. Was thinking about trying applications like diffh, starchart, gle, midicomp, lcal, pcal, passwordsafe or pwsafe, diction, sdcv, gsar and a few others if I have the time. Yes: comp.os.msdos.djgpp http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.msdos.djgpp/topics?pli=1 There are many programs out there, which has been ported from Linux to DOS using DJGPP. Bye -- Florian Xaver Wien/Vienna http://www.drdos.org - http://www.flox.at.tf -- OpenSolaris 2009.06 is a cutting edge operating system for enterprises looking to deploy the next generation of Solaris that includes the latest innovations from Sun and the OpenSource community. Download a copy and enjoy capabilities such as Networking, Storage and Virtualization. Go to: http://p.sf.net/sfu/opensolaris-get ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] getting applications working
had to run the install CD twice to get FreeDOS installed on the hard drive. Known problem, the 1.0 distro is obsolete and buggy ... My experience was that about half of the ones i tried on FreeDOS worked. Make sure to update the kernel, HIMEM to HIMEMX, EMM386 to nothing or JEMM, CTMOUSE, ... Forget to check if there was a wave file player that came installed with FreeDOS. What do others use to play those files? MPXPLAY. Also, could not play MOD files. My favorite program sound2 (based on SoundTracker), just hangs. Any recommendations on a good mod file player? On the wishlist for MPXPLAY. I couldn't help thinking Timidity++ would be great for playing midi and mod files. It works even without a sound card How ? PC speaker ? WAV file output ? I have a ton of old BASIC programs. Any recommendations on a good BASIC interpreter? No, get FreeBASIC compiler. There are some interpreters but AFAIK they are de facto unusable. Is there a good way to slow down old DOS games like pinball? * SLOWDOWN (at your risk, I don't use it) * BOCHS emulator (host OS = emulated OS = DOS) My favorite DOS programming editor (ftp://garbo.uwasa.fi/pc/editor/edwin15c.zip) fails and won't run. Has anyone been able to get edwin working on FreeDOS? NO (no test), I prefer KINESICS, INFOPAD, FASM IDE. Is there a PNG viewer for FreeDOS? YES: http://www.unet.univie.ac.at/~a0503736/php/drdoswiki/index.php?n=Main.GraphPaintCAD I tried an old copy of Pictview and it seems to work well on most graphics types but lacked PNG support. It DOES support PNG. Update. Is there a good forum or mailing list for discussing porting/compiling Open Source applications to DOS? This one ;-) BTTR . Still trying to get my bearings with FreeDOS, so any pointers to documentation, how-to's, etc. greatly appreciated. freedos.org drdos.org -- ~~~ wow ~~~ -- OpenSolaris 2009.06 is a cutting edge operating system for enterprises looking to deploy the next generation of Solaris that includes the latest innovations from Sun and the OpenSource community. Download a copy and enjoy capabilities such as Networking, Storage and Virtualization. Go to: http://p.sf.net/sfu/opensolaris-get ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
