Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS Internet Security Protocols and Graphical I nterface

Hi Bret, That was an interesting read. I suppose what confuses me is the idea that one cannot do much in dos on the internet. Perhaps you are speaking of direct connecting, although my understanding that the Arachnid browser for dos supports JavaScript just fine, although I have not used it

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS Internet Security Protocols and Graphical I nterface

For the wireless connection, Michael Brutman (maker of MTCP) has this page that discusses another option: http://www.brutman.com/Wireless_for_Classics/Wireless_for_Classics.html I haven't used on of these for DOS, but did use one (the one that Michael recommends) in another application where

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS Internet Security Protocols and Graphical Interface

On 8-01-19 23:15, Ralf Quint wrote: On 1/8/2019 12:13 PM, Thomas Vetere wrote: Hello FreeDOS community, I have an old IBM Thinkpad 600e that I am trying to refurbish for fun. With a Pentium 2 processor and 256 MB of RAM, I am considering using FreeDOS. I would like for this computer to be

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS Internet Security Protocols and Graphical Interface

On 1/8/2019 12:13 PM, Thomas Vetere wrote: Hello FreeDOS community, I have an old IBM Thinkpad 600e that I am trying to refurbish for fun. With a Pentium 2 processor and 256 MB of RAM, I am considering using FreeDOS. I would like for this computer to be able to connect to the Internet via

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS Internet Security Protocols and Graphical Interface

> > On 8-01-19 21:13, Thomas Vetere wrote: > >> I have an old IBM Thinkpad 600e that I am trying to refurbish for fun. > >> With a Pentium 2 processor and 256 MB of RAM, I am considering using > >> FreeDOS. I would like for this computer to be able to connect to the > >> Internet via Wifi,

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS Internet Security Protocols and Graphical Interface

Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS Internet Security Protocols and Graphical Interface

rick Klein > > > > _______ > Freedos-user mailing list > Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user > ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS Internet Security Protocols and Graphical Interface

On 8-01-19 21:13, Thomas Vetere wrote: Hello FreeDOS community, I have an old IBM Thinkpad 600e that I am trying to refurbish for fun. With a Pentium 2 processor and 256 MB of RAM, I am considering using FreeDOS. I would like for this computer to be able to connect to the Internet via Wifi,

[Freedos-user] FreeDOS Internet Security Protocols and Graphical Interface

Hello FreeDOS community, I have an old IBM Thinkpad 600e that I am trying to refurbish for fun. With a Pentium 2 processor and 256 MB of RAM, I am considering using FreeDOS. I would like for this computer to be able to connect to the Internet via Wifi, but after browsing the FreeDOS wiki

[Freedos-user] FreeDOS floppy is working as a part of coreboot SeaBIOS opensource BIOS image

Really happy I am to tell you : FreeDOS floppy is working perfectly as a part of coreboot+SeaBIOS opensource BIOS image ! ( inside Lenovo G505S quadcore AMD A10-5750M based laptop with 16GB RAM installed ) . After you build coreboot, it's super easy to add a floppy of any supported size

Re: [Freedos-user] [Freedos-devel] aefdisk/masterbooter open sourced

Hello My Friends, First of all, hope you all had a great christmas time! On Thu, 20 Dec 2018 at 16:17, TK Chia wrote: > > Hello Jerome, hello Geraldo, > > >> Seems to require borland c/tasm > > Unfortunately, aefdisk won’t compile under TASM 4.1. > > Tried. But, It throws a couple errors and

[Freedos-user] FreeDOS TUI Shell 0.3 have been released

Hello, I have released FreeDOS TUI Shell 0.3. FreeDOS TUI Shell is DOSSHELL command. It includes a file manager internal application and running command internal application. Short changelog of FreeDOS TUI Shell 0.3: - It have been relicensed GNU GPL v2 and GNU GPL v3. - Source file has

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS on SSD

Thanks for giving it straight. I was thinking TRIM was a kind of screen saver for hard drives, keeping over worked cells from being burned out. I never though about speed since all cells in solid state devices are accessed at the same speed no matter where they are on the drive, but they can be

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS on SSD

Just as an FYI, USB flash drives (a.k.a. thumb drives, pen drives. etc.) do something similar but it's called wear-leveling instead of TRIM. In flash drives, though, it's all automatic (built into the hardware/firmware of the drive) and you never see it or interact with it directly. The flash

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS website

Hi, (Sorry for belated reply.) On Thu, Oct 18, 2018 at 2:07 PM Jan van Wijk wrote: > > On Wed, 17 Oct 2018 11:48:34 -0500 Rugxulo wrote: > > >> >OW 1.9 runs natively in DOS. Or did you mean the makefiles need > >> >adjustments? (Long cmdlines for OW tools need an asterisk/star '*' !!) > >> > >>

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS on SSD

Hi! > Good explanation Thanks Not really... > In other word TRIM keeps the cells from being over worked, > so each cell takes part of the load. This is very new to me. No, the disk already distributes the stress automatically. But knowing which areas of the disk are currently unused helps to

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS on SSD

Good explanation Thanks In other word TRIM keeps the cells from being over worked, so each cell takes part of the load. This is very new to me. How can I tell if TRIM is present. Is there a file called trim.exe. cheers DS On Tue, 6 Nov 2018 19:18:48 +0100 Tom Ehlert writes: > >> Trim sounds

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS on SSD

l for 99+% use cases. > >> >> Freedos-user mailing list >> Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user >> > _______ > Freedos-user mailing list > Freedos-user@lists.sourcef

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS on SSD

ation is here would help those of us who know DOS and SSDs, but who have never attempted this particular task because it's too impractical for 99+% use cases. > > Freedos-user mailing list > Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.s

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS on SSD

Hi! To install FreeDOS on SSD is basically the same as on harddisk. If the disk is totally empty, you will have to use FDISK /MBR or similar to make booting work - just using SYS will not be enough. Otherwise, SSD are almost like fast harddisks. Other differences which exist are not noticed by

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS on SSD

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Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS on SSD

>> Trim sounds like the old standard "defrag program" which should >> be unneeded for flash since all bits get accessed at the same speed. >> No spinning disk to move around on. wrong. > Trim is used for equal usage of memory-cells. It is a mechanism to > support round-robin usage of those

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS on SSD

On 11/06/2018 05:34 PM, Dale E Sterner wrote: Trim sounds like the old standard "defrag program" which should be unneeded for flash since all bits get accessed at the same speed. No spinning disk to move around on. Trim is used for equal usage of memory-cells. It is a mechanism to support

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS on SSD

Dennis I'm a little behind the times so can you correct my mistakes here. SSD stands for "solid state drive" which is flash memory with a SATA interface. This should be the same as using a CF chip with a SATA adapter. Trim sounds like the old standard "defrag program" which should be unneeded for

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS on SSD

embre 2018 08:51 À : Discussion and general questions about FreeDOS. Objet : Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS on SSD rufus will make a USB or a CF bootable with the PC (which has the fixed SSD). The difficulty is making the fixed SSD bootable. The DOS working files can be copied from a convenient

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS on SSD

: lundi 5 novembre 2018 20:31 > À : Discussion and general questions about FreeDOS. > Objet : Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS on SSD > >>> Can anyone recommend an IDIOT-proof method of installing FreeDOS 1.2 on >>> a fixed SSD drive (with no OS) via one of several USB

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS on SSD

Mercedes to move a box of chocolates down the road. Thank you for your comments. De : Tom Ehlert Envoyé : lundi 5 novembre 2018 20:31 À : Discussion and general questions about FreeDOS. Objet : Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS on SSD >> Can anyone recommend an IDIOT

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS on SSD

s. Lack > of TRIM support is *not* a problem. > > Current SSD development aims to make TRIM unnecessary in any case. > ___ > Dennis > https://plus.google.com/u/0/105128793974319004519 > > > ___ > Freedos-user

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS on SSD

On Mon, Nov 5, 2018 at 2:50 PM Rugxulo wrote: > On Thu, Nov 1, 2018 at 5:23 AM Raymond Bathurst wrote: > > > > Can anyone recommend an IDIOT-proof method of installing FreeDOS 1.2 on > > a fixed SSD drive (with no OS) via one of several USB ports ? > > I don't have any SSDs, though, and you need

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS on SSD

>> Can anyone recommend an IDIOT-proof method of installing FreeDOS 1.2 on >> a fixed SSD drive (with no OS) via one of several USB ports ? 1st, a fixed SSD behaves *exactly* like a ((fast) rotating disk. 2nd, I have no idea how much IDIOT you are, but most likely ANYDOS is not your best

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS on SSD

Hi, On Thu, Nov 1, 2018 at 5:23 AM Raymond Bathurst wrote: > > Can anyone recommend an IDIOT-proof method of installing FreeDOS 1.2 on > a fixed SSD drive (with no OS) via one of several USB ports ? I don't have any SSDs, though, and you need an OS with "TRIM" support (which apparently even

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS compatiblity...

On Thu, 1 Nov 2018, stecdose wrote: I use Borland C++ 3.1 and NASM on FreeDOS on Pentium MMX 233 with 64MB RAM, this works quite well. Never had any problems. I guess, there will be no problems. Maybe old development tools won't work with a 120GB partition. If this is my box, I would install

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS compatiblity...

I use Borland C++ 3.1 and NASM on FreeDOS on Pentium MMX 233 with 64MB RAM, this works quite well. Never had any problems. I guess, there will be no problems. Maybe old development tools won't work with a 120GB partition. If this is my box, I would install DOS and the programs to a 2GB DOS

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS compatiblity...

On Thu, 1 Nov 2018, stecdose wrote: What compatiblity exactly are you talking about? FreeDOS to hardware, existing DOS-programs to FreeDOS or both? Software. The hardware is a P166 that's pretty bog standard. Software: DOS 6.22 compatiblity is given, though someone can't say for sure that

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS compatiblity...

What compatiblity exactly are you talking about? FreeDOS to hardware, existing DOS-programs to FreeDOS or both? Software: DOS 6.22 compatiblity is given, though someone can't say for sure that a program, which has not been tested, will 100% work. Hardware: I am experiencing some

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS screen refresh in a VM

as I think I've tried every possible > setting. Thank you! > > RL > > > > ___ > Freedos-user mailing list > Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user __

[Freedos-user] FreeDOS screen refresh in a VM

I've got an unusual issue that I've been trying to solve for several days but have had no luck. Running FreeDOS in a QEMU-based VM, on a Xen hypervisor (it's actually the Qubes OS) I managed to get it all installed and it runs well except for one problem:  Screen refresh is too slow, even

[Freedos-user] FreeDOS on SSD

Can anyone recommend an IDIOT-proof method of installing FreeDOS 1.2 on a fixed SSD drive (with no OS) via one of several USB ports ? Many thanks ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS website

Hi Robert, On Sun, 21 Oct 2018 18:50:24 +0200 Robert Riebisch wrote: > >> The sources are in OpenOffice though, so I could have a look at >> what th export alternatives are, to bundle into the distribution ZIP ... > >Maybe you want to have a look at several multi-format documentation >generators:

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS website

Hi Jan, >>> No not at all, I have just uploaded the latest version, including an update >>> to some documentation/presentations in PDF format, it is at: >> >>PDF is a bit bloated and DOS-unfriendly, but I understand your need to >>use something modern and accessible (or whatever). > > Something

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS website

On Wed, 17 Oct 2018 11:48:34 -0500 Rugxulo wrote: > >> No not at all, I have just uploaded the latest version, including an update >> to some documentation/presentations in PDF format, it is at: > >PDF is a bit bloated and DOS-unfriendly, but I understand your need to >use something modern and

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS website

Hi, On Sat, Oct 13, 2018 at 12:00 PM Jan van Wijk wrote: > > On Wed, 3 Oct 2018 21:15:30 -0500 Rugxulo wrote: > > > >> The user-interface library 'TxWin' I use for my disk-tool is open-source. > > > >I've never used it, but I pointed Jim Hall to it (although I don't > >think even he used it) a

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS website

On Wed, 3 Oct 2018 21:15:30 -0500 Rugxulo wrote: > >> The user-interface library 'TxWin' I use for my disk-tool is open-source. > >I've never used it, but I pointed Jim Hall to it (although I don't >think even he used it) a few years ago. But that was old versions >(txwin1xx.zip and txwin2xx.zip).

Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos-user Digest, Vol 1473, Issue 1

t; > > > -- Forwarded message -- > From: Rugxulo > To: Jan van Wijk , freedos-user < > freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net> > Cc: > Bcc: > Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2018 21:15:30 -0500 > Subject: Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS website > Hi, > > On Wed

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS website

Hi, On Wed, Oct 3, 2018 at 5:16 AM Jan van Wijk wrote: > > Yes, unfortunatily I have no network connectivity in my FreeDOS VM, > but I handle that by mounting a virtual-disk shared with other VM's. > But normally I only need it to test my bootable-CD, so I just boot > the ISO in a VM ...

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS website

On Tue, 2 Oct 2018 11:55:25 -0400 dmccunney wrote: > >Wine is good enough for a lot of what folks do, but perfection isn't >possible. Is there a list anywhere of what Odin is known to support? Hmm, on my ArcaOS 5.0, version 0.8.9 is installed, and its doc says: 'there is a large database of

Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos-user Digest, Vol 1471, Issue 1

On Tue, Oct 2, 2018 at 10:06 AM Tom Schultz wrote: > > An observation; > > I just acquired a Lenovo 300e Chromebook which was developed for the > education market [schools]. I wonder what grade level? It includes a text > editor which I assume is used for writing code because it has a word >

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS website

On Tue, Oct 2, 2018 at 6:32 AM Jan van Wijk wrote: > On Mon, 1 Oct 2018 11:22:47 -0400 dmccunney wrote: > > > >> There is a new commercial OS/2 variant now, ArcaOS from arcanoae.com . > >> 32-bit, no 64-bit, no GPT, no refund it it doesn't work. > > > >64-bit can be lived without. 32 bit is

Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos-user Digest, Vol 1471, Issue 1

ic Auer > To: freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net > Cc: > Bcc: > Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2018 00:22:28 +0200 > Subject: Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS website > > Hi Don, at the risk of making this thread even longer... > > Yes, ebook readers tend to use Linux. Nicer brands eve

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS website

On Mon, 1 Oct 2018 11:22:47 -0400 dmccunney wrote: > >> There is a new commercial OS/2 variant now, ArcaOS from arcanoae.com . > >I missed that one. Thanks! > >> 32-bit, no 64-bit, no GPT, no refund it it doesn't work. > >64-bit can be lived without. 32 bit is nice. The question is what 32 bit

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS website

Phone 5, among others (EC20 MDM9615). There is a talk > about it: "Dissecting Modern (3G/4G) Cellular Modems". > > Cheers, Eric > > > > ___ > Freedos-user mailing list &

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS website

Hi Don, at the risk of making this thread even longer... Yes, ebook readers tend to use Linux. Nicer brands even publish development kits ;-) But Linux is a whole OS. So as long as Amazon publishes any changes to the kernel with sources, they can run any of their closed source, DRM protected

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS website

On Mon, Oct 1, 2018 at 4:41 PM Don Flowers wrote: > > So this statement caught my attention:" Other things that have a Linux kernel > uder the hood are the Amazon Kindle and B Nook eBook reader devices (and > source > for their Linux kernel and firmware is available." > Amazon may have

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS website

vidends.) > ___ > Dennis > https://plus.google.com/u/0/105128793974319004519 > > > ___ > Freedos-user mailing list > Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user > ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS website

On Mon, Oct 1, 2018 at 2:32 PM Cuvtixo D wrote: > > I'm glad this is being cleared up a bit here. Yes, I should have made the > civil/criminal distinction. Yes, it's too expensive to be practical for > commercial companies. But still, at least in my fantasies, Stallman would > have done a big

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS website

On 10/1/2018 10:14 AM, Cuvtixo D wrote: Brand new to this mailing list, but I wanted to respond to a conversation about Open source licences, and apologies to the authors, I lost track of who said what in the following: >>> (Speaking personally, I'd love to see *FreeDOS* re-licensed under >>>

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS website

I'm glad this is being cleared up a bit here. Yes, I should have made the civil/criminal distinction. Yes, it's too expensive to be practical for commercial companies. But still, at least in my fantasies, Stallman would have done a big fundraiser to bring such a case to court, since he seems to be

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS website

On Mon, Oct 1, 2018 at 1:16 PM Cuvtixo D wrote: > > Brand new to this mailing list, but I wanted to respond to a conversation > about Open source licences, and apologies to the authors, I lost track of who > said what in the following: > >>> (Speaking personally, I'd love to see *FreeDOS*

[Freedos-user] FreeDOS website

Brand new to this mailing list, but I wanted to respond to a conversation about Open source licences, and apologies to the authors, I lost track of who said what in the following: >>> (Speaking personally, I'd love to see *FreeDOS* re-licensed under >>> something other than the GPL.) >> I don't

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS website

On Mon, Oct 1, 2018 at 3:29 AM Thomas Mueller wrote: > Excerptfrom dmccunney: > > > > MS isn't the only vendor of a DOS-compatible OS. DR-DOS and ROM-DOS > > > are still sold online. (Do OS/2 variants also count? Maybe.) > > > Which OS/2 variants? The one I'm aware of is eComStation, > >

[Freedos-user] FreeDOS TUI Shell 0.2 has been Released (With some fixes)

Hello everyone, I released FreeDOS TUI Shell version 0.2. FreeDOS TUI Shell is DOSSHELL command. It includes a file manager internal application and running command internal application. Changes of version 0.2: - Disabled menuitem foreground color have changed to grey on "FDOSTUI.INI".

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS TUI Shell 0.1 has been Released

The README and source say otherwise [0]. [0] https://github.com/ercanersoy/FreeDOS-TUI-Shell/tree/master/3rdparty/fdostui FDOSTUI is a library. You may look at FDOSTUI library offical internet site: http://www.nongnu.org/fdostui/ Best regards, Ercan

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS TUI Shell 0.1 has been Released

The README and source say otherwise [0]. [0] https://github.com/ercanersoy/FreeDOS-TUI-Shell/tree/master/3rdparty/fdostui On Fri, Jul 13, 2018 at 12:34 PM Ercan Ersoy wrote: > > Hello, > > I have released FreeDOS TUI Shell version 0.1. > > FreeDOS TUI Shell is a TUI shell for FreeDOS. It

[Freedos-user] FreeDOS TUI Shell 0.1 has been Released

Hello, I have released FreeDOS TUI Shell version 0.1. FreeDOS TUI Shell is a TUI shell for FreeDOS. It includes file manager and run executable files. FreeDOS TUI Shell is "DOSSHELL.EXE" for FreeDOS. FreeDOS TUI Shell is licensed under GNU General Public License version 3. FreeDOS TUI

Re: [Freedos-user] [Freedos-user} copywrites

On Fri, Jul 6, 2018 at 10:51 PM Rugxulo wrote: > On Wed, Jul 4, 2018 at 3:57 AM, dmccunney wrote: > > > > I went around this elsewhere with a guy who is doing a replacement for > > the Busybox package with the first target being Android. (Android > > developers are using what he is doing

Re: [Freedos-user] freedos & old 486-33MHZ System

On Tue, Jul 10, 2018 at 12:38 AM Thomas Fritsch wrote: > > im trying to optimize the use out of my old 486 for realtivly older things > including Win 3.1 Software, am i best sticking to MS-DOS 6.22 or will > freedos on such an old ram starved system proove to run better? (20MB SIMM > memory)

Re: [Freedos-user] freedos & old 486-33MHZ System

On 7/9/2018 9:37 PM, Thomas Fritsch wrote: im trying to optimize the use out of my old 486 for realtivly older things including Win 3.1 Software, am i best sticking to MS-DOS 6.22  or will freedos on such an old ram starved system  proove to run better? (20MB SIMM memory) FreeDOS doesn't

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS Networking with NetWare?

On 7/9/2018 8:56 PM, Thomas Mueller wrote: Newer computers will not in general be able to use Crynwr packet drivers, but some (I believe many) motherboards support booting by PXE over the Ethernet. In that case, would it be possible to so boot FreeDOS and have Ehternet support from the

[Freedos-user] freedos & old 486-33MHZ System

im trying to optimize the use out of my old 486 for realtivly older things including Win 3.1 Software, am i best sticking to MS-DOS 6.22 or will freedos on such an old ram starved system proove to run better? (20MB SIMM memory) i cant give too many details on the system as its kinda on eof

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS Networking with NetWare?

from Rugxulo (snippet): > You can check the old Crynwr packet driver collection (mirrored on > iBiblio) or a few other sites: * http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/distributions/1.2/repos/pkg-html/group-net.html * http://www.georgpotthast.de/sioux/packet.htm *

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS Networking with NetWare?

Hi, On Sun, Jul 8, 2018 at 5:07 AM, Bruce Sommerset wrote: > Hello everyone. I'm a new user to FreeDOS. Welcome. We are a very small but loyal group. :-) > I have some questions that perhaps more experienced users might be able to > help me with. I am trying to get two computers to

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS Networking with NetWare?

PNW relies on the ODI shim. Try RTSODI for the 8139. "Most" 8169s work with The RTEODI. . Here's the key all drivers in the PNW segment have a NET.CFG Save one play with one. Adjust the placement of the 802.11,803.11, Alonso look at the OEM supplied .ins file. On Sunday, July 8, 2018, Ralf

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS Networking with NetWare?

On 7/8/2018 3:07 AM, Bruce Sommerset wrote: Hello everyone. I'm a new user to FreeDOS. I have some questions that perhaps more experienced users might be able to help me with. I am trying to get two computers to communicate with one another (Basically a small network) I have been skeptical

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS Networking with NetWare?

On Sun, 08 Jul 2018 10:07:32 +, Bruce Sommerset wrote: > I have some questions that perhaps more experienced users might be able > to help me with. I am trying to get two computers to communicate with > one another (Basically a small network) I have been skeptical about > switching from MS-DOS

[Freedos-user] FreeDOS Networking with NetWare?

Hello everyone. I'm a new user to FreeDOS. I have some questions that perhaps more experienced users might be able to help me with. I am trying to get two computers to communicate with one another (Basically a small network) I have been skeptical about switching from MS-DOS 6.22 to FreeDOS

Re: [Freedos-user] [Freedos-user} copywrites

Hi, On Wed, Jul 4, 2018 at 3:57 AM, dmccunney wrote: > > I went around this elsewhere with a guy who is doing a replacement for > the Busybox package with the first target being Android. (Android > developers are using what he is doing internally.) I assume you mean Rob Landley and Toybox.

Re: [Freedos-user] [Freedos-user} copywrites

I don't have any love for Windows; would rather use dos. One way is to rewrite xtalk; the other is to build or buy a converter - usb to RS232 and back. One reason dos software is so difficult to make is because you don't have the special commands needed. In the very old days you could get them

Re: [Freedos-user] [Freedos-user} copywrites

On Wed, 4 Jul 2018, Dale E Sterner wrote: The bad thing about Crosstalk is that it only works on RS232 now extinct. At work I'd splice in an extra link on RS232 lines to our samplers. Xtalk was able to capture secret command codes known only to the factory. With them I could control the

Re: [Freedos-user] [Freedos-user} copywrites

The bad thing about Crosstalk is that it only works on RS232 now extinct. At work I'd splice in an extra link on RS232 lines to our samplers. Xtalk was able to capture secret command codes known only to the factory. With them I could control the samplers wothout factory software. Then came usb and

Re: [Freedos-user] [Freedos-user} copywrites

Dennis: I just knew you would come up with some good stuff. cheers DS ** >From Dale Sterner - MS organic chemistry http://pubs.acs.org/doi/abs/10.1021/jo00975a052 ***

Re: [Freedos-user] [Freedos-user} copywrites

It has become a complex world. Some people like me get really confused by it. Do you know anything about Gif and LZW; I understand that are now free to use any time you want? If they were copyrights then I would think they would still be covered but if they were patents they could be free by now.

Re: [Freedos-user] [Freedos-user} copywrites

Great explaination. Maybe you should post it on your web site. I think maybe software should get a new catagory. Books and music can last for centuries. Software can have a very short lifespan. Software is often abadoned completely and the law should be changed to reflect this. cheers DS

Re: [Freedos-user] [Freedos-user} copywrites

I know that - just making fun of it . But if you did copyright an invention or drug by description, then when someone applied for a patend they'd have to use that description to apply and you could sue them for copyright violation for using your matterial. Just humor. cheers DS On Tue, 3 Jul

Re: [Freedos-user] [Freedos-user} copywrites

Thank you This should be a quiz show question. I wonder how many could answer it. DS On Tue, 3 Jul 2018 16:19:42 -0400 Jerome Shidel writes: > > > On Jul 3, 2018, at 2:37 PM, Jim Hall wrote: > > [..] > > In the US (and in many other countries) copyright exists the > moment > > you create

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> On Jul 3, 2018, at 4:24 PM, Dale E Sterner wrote: > [...] > If I was a drug copany or inventor; I'd try to get a copyright > rather then a patent. I'd type the description out on a type writter > an register it. No generic drugs for years. > Then there are Patents. At first glance, a

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On Tue, Jul 3, 2018 at 1:48 PM Dale E Sterner wrote: > > My goal was to find the legal owner and see if they > would sell me a copy of the source code and let > me make changes for personal use only. > It has to have a copywrite on it so why didn't > the office find one; it seems a simple job. >

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> Exactly. And that should answer Dale's question of "So what is the > point of having a copyright office." Your work is automatically under > copyright when you create it. But if you register the work with the US > Copyright Office, then you have a solid legal ground if someone else > comes along

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> On Jul 3, 2018, at 2:37 PM, Jim Hall wrote: > [..] > In the US (and in many other countries) copyright exists the moment > you create sometime and put your name to it. The US government does > *not* need to keep a record of it in order for copyright to happen. > From the US Copyright Office

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On Tue, 3 Jul 2018, Dale E Sterner wrote: If I was a drug copany or inventor; I'd try to get a copyright rather then a patent. I'd type the description out on a type writter an register it. No generic drugs for years. That's not how Copyright works. Please use Google. g. -- Proud owner of

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I read your link, very eye opening. Very few people are aware of this. I once paid a lawyer $30 to explain copyrights to me. Even he got it wrong - very wrong. By the way I'm a horrible speller, always have been. If I was a drug copany or inventor; I'd try to get a copyright rather then a patent.

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On Tue, 3 Jul 2018, Dale E Sterner wrote: I can see I found a real expert. So what is the point of having a copyright office. We could save a lot of tax money getting rid of it. Also why don't they do patents the same way. Then is there anything out there that is public domain. For certain

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I can see I found a real expert. So what is the point of having a copyright office. We could save a lot of tax money getting rid of it. Also why don't they do patents the same way. Then is there anything out there that is public domain. cheers DS On Tue, 3 Jul 2018 13:37:25 -0500 Jim Hall

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>> On 7/2/2018 7:58 AM, Dale E Sterner wrote: >> > Which doesn't explain why the copywright >> > office didn't find anything for "Crosstalk" >> > which was after 1978. > On Mon, 2 Jul 2018 09:28:38 -0700 Ralf Quint wrote: >> Which is nonsense to begin with, as there simply can't be any DOS >>

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My goal was to find the legal owner and see if they would sell me a copy of the source code and let me make changes for personal use only. It has to have a copywrite on it so why didn't the office find one; it seems a simple job. Their reply was that they couldn't find anything, How is that

Re: [Freedos-user] freedos on hp computers?

Most of HP's work is writting code for inside printers, etc. Most likely machine code which is closer to being dos than WINDOWS. If a newbee can't handle dos he's probably not worth keeping. Alot of companies hire 100 newbees but really only plan to keep 50. I wouldn't be suprised if some of the

Re: [Freedos-user] freedos on hp computers?

The tablets I buy work for awhile then fail. Each new tablet with a newer Android version works very well for awhile. The world changes and you need a newer version to accept those changes. I'm up to version 7 which has been working for quite awhile now. It might be the last one - I hope. Its

Re: [Freedos-user] freedos on hp computers?

Personally I find DOS very useful. The main drawback is the lack of software being produced. New machines are amazing but the average little guy has few uses for so much power. Its good for the IRS, Ford, GM and other big guys but the average guy doesn't need so much power. 99.9% of a new

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Hi, On Tue, Mar 20, 2018 at 5:57 PM, dmccunney wrote: > On Tue, Mar 20, 2018 at 3:05 PM, Dale E Sterner wrote: >> >> HP's resources are so great that it would just be a tiny project for them. > > HP does things for *money*. There is no money in

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On Wed, Mar 21, 2018 at 4:20 PM, Ralf Quint wrote: > On 3/21/2018 11:46 AM, Dale E Sterner wrote: >> >> I've used ios (junked it), Android & Freedos. Freedos is not too far >> behind those two. Android is fine but is always being upgraded. >> I think I'm on my 10th tablet.

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On 3/21/2018 11:46 AM, Dale E Sterner wrote: I've used ios (junked it), Android & Freedos. Freedos is not too far behind those two. Android is fine but is always being upgraded. I think I'm on my 10th tablet. They work for awhile but then soon need a upgrade - buy a new tablet time is about

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