Re: [Freedos-user] Virtual floppy change problem with VirtualBox

2012-05-23 Thread escape
I was about to post bugreport at VirtualBox bugtracker, but decided to double-check the issue first. On my system floppy images change are correctly recognized. VirtualBox 4.1.4-3.2.3 OSE OpenSUSE 12.1. On 16.05.12 19:33, Wolfgang Schechinger wrote: Dear experts, I have some floppy images I

Re: [Freedos-user] Virtual floppy change problem with VirtualBox

2012-05-23 Thread Jack
I was about to post bugreport at VirtualBox bugtracker, but decided to double-check the issue first. On my system floppy images change are correctly recognized. VirtualBox 4.1.4-3.2.3 OSE OpenSUSE 12.1. The issue is that VirtualBox is not posting diskette media-change status in the BIOS data

Re: [Freedos-user] Virtual floppy change problem with VirtualBox

2012-05-23 Thread Eric Auer
Hi Tom, thanks for checking the int 13 details on VirtualBox! I was about to post bugreport at VirtualBox bugtracker, but decided to double-check the issue first. On my system floppy images change are correctly recognized. VirtualBox 4.1.4-3.2.3 OSE OpenSUSE 12.1. The issue is that

Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos-user Digest, Vol 635, Issue 1

2012-05-23 Thread Bret Johnson
I tried using your programs, but for some reason they did not work. When I loaded the usbprint app, I ran this command usbprint status and it said on the bottom no printer installed when I clearly had the printer plugged in. I also tried it where I loaded it and then plugged in the printer,

Re: [Freedos-user] Virtual floppy change problem with VirtualBox

2012-05-23 Thread Jack
Tom: The issue is that VirtualBox is not posting diskette media-change status in the BIOS data table. the 'issue' is that VirtualBox clearly states 'floppy without change-line support' int13/15 returns '01h floppy without change-line support int13/16 returns '06h change line active or

Re: [Freedos-user] Virtual floppy change problem with VirtualBox

2012-05-23 Thread Eric Auer
Jack, the 'issue' is that VirtualBox clearly states 'floppy without change-line support' int13/15 returns '01h floppy without change-line support int13/16 returns '06h change line active or not supported but UIDE ignores this, and relies on change line support anyway. You are WRONG,

Re: [Freedos-user] Virtual floppy change problem with VirtualBox

2012-05-23 Thread Tom Ehlert
Jack, The issue is that VirtualBox is not posting diskette media-change status in the BIOS data table. the 'issue' is that VirtualBox clearly states 'floppy without change-line support' int13/15 returns '01h floppy without change-line support int13/16 returns '06h change line active or

Re: [Freedos-user] Virtual floppy change problem with VirtualBox

2012-05-23 Thread BretJ
Jack-181 wrote: I will NOT cache a drive which cannot tell me when its media has changed, and I REFUSE to add all of the logic in UIDE that Eric notes the DOS kernel contains, to find out if a media-change has occurred using other methods! It's not impossible to cache floppies, Jack. You

Re: [Freedos-user] Virtual floppy change problem with VirtualBox

2012-05-23 Thread Ralf A. Quint
At 09:22 AM 5/23/2012, Jack wrote: You are WRONG, Tom!! Sorry, Jack, but he is not Honestly Jack, please don't explode each time someone is making a critical statement. There simply is no reason to get all personal about this... UIDE has NEVER ignored if a diskette has change-line

Re: [Freedos-user] Virtual floppy change problem with VirtualBox

2012-05-23 Thread Jack
UIDE has NEVER ignored if a diskette has change-line support! It does in fact check the BIOS data table at 0:448h for bit 0 (change line for diskette A:) or bit 4 (change line for diskette B:). If those bits are off, diskette A: or diskette B: will not be cached. if UIDE would check

Re: [Freedos-user] Virtual floppy change problem with VirtualBox

2012-05-23 Thread Jack
UIDE has NEVER ignored if a diskette has change-line support! It does in fact check the BIOS data table at 0:48Fh for bit 0 (change line for diskette A:) or bit 4 (change line for diskette B:). If those bits are off, diskette A: or diskette B: will not be cached. That is an interesting

Re: [Freedos-user] Virtual floppy change problem with VirtualBox

2012-05-23 Thread Jack
It's not impossible to cache floppies, Jack. You just need to do it differently than you're doing now ... Back in 1980, I told an old friend of mine about a 750K video-driver package which I had seen (written in C, of course!), and he noted, They've got GUTS, calling that a DRIVER! If I had

Re: [Freedos-user] Virtual floppy change problem

2012-05-23 Thread Bertho Grandpied
On Wed, 23 May 2012 09:22:03 Jack ...@earthlink.net wrote : Subject: Re: [Freedos-user] Virtual floppy change problem You are WRONG, Tom!! Is he ? or are you being RUDE, Jack ? UIDE has NEVER ignored if a diskette has change-line support!   It does in fact check the BIOS data table at

Re: [Freedos-user] Virtual floppy change problem

2012-05-23 Thread Jack
You are WRONG, Tom!! Is he ? or are you being RUDE, Jack? Tom could have written me privately, before publicly saying UIDE assumes change-line support, but did not. I responded in kind! Not Tom, but I'd like to learn from /what exact source/ you got the definition for those bits. My

Re: [Freedos-user] Virtual floppy change problem with VirtualBox

2012-05-23 Thread Jack
Jack, PLEASE, don't pull yourself up on the VirtualBox issue, it is rather a more general problem. You simply rely on the contents of the memory region rather than than properly query system via INT13. And that isn't adding much to the logic and overall size of your drivers compared to the

Re: [Freedos-user] Virtual floppy change problem with VirtualBox

2012-05-23 Thread Jack
Eric, Apologies, I misread my own source file (early!) this morning. UIDE and UIDE2 check 0:48Fh (not 448h) for the bits that indicate if drive A: or B: suipport a media-change line. Note the BIOS data lists at: http://www.bioscentral.com/misc/bda.htm This document states that bit 0

Re: [Freedos-user] Virtual floppy change problem with VirtualBox

2012-05-23 Thread Tom Ehlert
Given how UIDE/UIDE2's diskette I-O has never been a problem BUT for VirtualBox, I will keep UIDE/UIDE2 as-is. this is going nowhere. Jack is right and everybody else is a bloody idiot. AMEN Tom -- Live Security

Re: [Freedos-user] Virtual floppy change problem with VirtualBox

2012-05-23 Thread Ralf A. Quint
At 12:31 PM 5/23/2012, Jack wrote: As I just got through noting, in another post, why would the BIOS data include diskette change-line flags if they were NOT intended to be USED?? Until someone can positively REFUTE the data offered by the BIOS Central data-table list, my opinion is that neither

Re: [Freedos-user] Virtual floppy change problem with VirtualBox

2012-05-23 Thread Jack
As I just got through noting, in another post, why would the BIOS data include diskette change-line flags if they were NOT intended to be USED?? Until someone can positively REFUTE the data offered by the BIOS Central data-table list, my opinion is that neither you nor any- one else can say

Re: [Freedos-user] checking virtualbox source codes for floppy and pci speed issues

2012-05-23 Thread Eric Auer
Jack, Yes, 40:8f might be wrong in VirtualBox and yes the person who set it to the wrong value may even be in your BIOS Central style group of 40:8f users. But for example the IBM PS/2 and PC Technical Reference (official 1991 IBM docs) clearly describes 40:8f as RESERVED byte in the BIOS Data

Re: [Freedos-user] Virtual floppy change problem with VirtualBox

2012-05-23 Thread TJ Edmister
On Wed, 23 May 2012 14:33:00 -0400, Jack gykazequ...@earthlink.net wrote: Back in 1980, I told an old friend of mine about a 750K video-driver package which I had seen (written in C, of course!), and he noted, They've got GUTS, calling that a DRIVER! Wow, that sounds familiar. Was your