[Freedos-user] FreeDos on USB mounted compact flash card

[jamie marchant]

Hi:

 I used Refus to put FreeDos on a USB mounted compact flash card, it 
looks like it's going to boot but then it boots Grub off my hard disk 
instead, any idea why? This is a modern computer(but old enough that it 
uses a BIOS).


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Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS on usb stick

[maybeway36]

As far as I know, installing FreeDOS doesn't overwrite the MBR. If you are
using GRUB4DOS on your USB stick, you can add this entry after installing
FreeDOS:

title FreeDOS
find --set-root /kernel.sys
chainloader /kernel.sys

The kernel.sys is in the root directory of the FreeDOS partition.

On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 10:30 AM, M&tej  wrote:

> Hello, I have USB stick with Grub and it is partitioned. I want to install
> FreeDOS on partition FAT32 on usb, but I don't want to lost my partitioning
> state (I have installed Mandriva on usb). How I can do that? And how I can
> add Freedos to Grub list? And where is FreeDOS kernel? Please help me, I
> am newbie. And please explain solution easy.
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[Freedos-user] FreeDOS on usb stick

Hello, I have USB stick with Grub and it is partitioned. I want to install
FreeDOS on partition FAT32 on usb, but I don't want to lost my partitioning
state (I have installed Mandriva on usb). How I can do that?:-( And how I
can add Freedos to Grub list?:-(( And where is FreeDOS kernel?:,( Please
help me, I am newbie.
And please explain solution easy.:-D
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Re: [Freedos-user] freedos on usb

[ramon]

Hi can I  get some instructions on who to write the cfg file or a place 
which gives instructions, so I can boot the freedos with syslinux boot 
loader.

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>> Hi I saw that it was possible to run freedos from a usb.
>
> I have two thumb drives that I cloned from a boot floppy with the HP
> utility.  On my laptop - which has no A: - they both work, but one boots
> as A: and the other as C:.  I am going to keep the A:.
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Re: [Freedos-user] freedos on usb

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ramin wrote:
> Hi I saw that it was possible to run freedos from a usb. 

I have two thumb drives that I cloned from a boot floppy with the HP 
utility.  On my laptop - which has no A: - they both work, but one boots 
as A: and the other as C:.  I am going to keep the A:.

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Re: [Freedos-user] freedos on usb

[maybeway36]

The syslinux.cfg is a normal text file that you make on the root
directory of the USB drive, so you can just use EDIT for that.
-maybeway36

On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 7:28 PM, ramin  wrote:
> Hi I saw that it was possible to run freedos from a usb. Since my mother
> board can boot a usb drive I decided to use my 2 gig memorex. Their was a
> tutorial on the wiki about installing on a usb which I tried but I couldn’t
> make a syslinux.cfg I typed prompt 1 on the command prompt and then just a
> single one shows up. Then I type  ontimeout q and I get ontimeout is not a
> recoqnized as an internal or external command, operable program or batch
> file. And this is where I am stuck.
>
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[Freedos-user] freedos on usb

[ramin]

Hi I saw that it was possible to run freedos from a usb. Since my mother board 
can boot a usb drive I decided to use my 2 gig memorex. Their was a tutorial on 
the wiki about installing on a usb which I tried but I couldn't make a 
syslinux.cfg I typed prompt 1 on the command prompt and then just a single one 
shows up. Then I type  ontimeout q and I get ontimeout is not a recoqnized as 
an internal or external command, operable program or batch file. And this is 
where I am stuck.

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Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS on USB stick?

[Robert Riebisch]

Roughbert Strong wrote:

> stick, booting starts OK but soon stops with "media

What happens exactly?

> test failure check cable". I've seen this error

"Check cable" probably comes from your NIC (PXE), because BIOS couldn't
boot the stick.

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Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS on USB stick?

[Roughbert Strong]

Thanks Eric.
After using the HP utility under XP to "sys" the USB
stick, booting starts OK but soon stops with "media
test failure check cable". I've seen this error
messsage reported in the archives, but no resolution -
any ideas?

Chris

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Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS on USB stick?

[Eric Auer]

Hi,

> Is it possible to boot from a USB stick and also use
> that as the primary "hard disk"?

Yes, if you BIOS supports it... There are a few styles
of "hard disk" simulation for USB sticks, but there are
howtos on the www which explain the details. You will
have to try which styles are supported by your BIOS.

There are also howtos about installing DOS on USB stick.
Basically you mark the partition as bootable and SYS it.

Caveat is that you need some sort of FDISK with USB...
A Windows or Linux one should do the trick. The SYS is
easier - you can load a DOS USB driver to access the
partition, see other howtos online :-). Some BIOSes can
even make USB sticks visible as drives if you do not
boot from them, then you can use SYS without loading
drivers. Even a better DOS fdisk like SPFDISK or XFDISK
might work then. Last but not least, there are Linux
and Windows tools which can do SYS and other steps of
the process for you, e.g. "the HP tool for WinXP", or

www.coli.uni-saarland.de/~eric/stuff/soft/specials/sys-freedos-linux.zip

Note that USB sticks do not always come with a MBR /
partition table sector which can actually boot. You
can do something like "fdisk /mbr" to fix that...

Maybe others on the list can add some nice HOWTO URLs,
or maybe you can collect some yourself and tell on the
list which ones were most useful for you :-).

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[Freedos-user] FreeDOS on USB stick?

[Roughbert Strong]

Hello everyone!

Is it possible to boot from a USB stick and also use
that as the primary "hard disk"? In other words,
without any other mass storage devices? If so, how do
I do it? Supposing that the BIOS of the target machine
is capable of booting from USB.

Thanks!

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Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS on USB-HD

[Eric Auer]

Hi,

> do you have BIOS-support? My extern hard disk is mapped by BIOS and
> is accessable like any other hard disk. Maybe a BIOS-update helps?

Indeed. You can only boot from USB disk if your BIOS supports USB disk!
Because you cannot load drivers BEFORE you boot ;-).

> > I searched the last month for an answer how to install FreeDOS
> > on an USB-HD,
> > but found nothing. Google hadn't help me, too.

Basically because if your BIOS supports USB disks, you can use
them like any other disk, and if not, you cannot boot from them.

> > If I boot the FreeDOS Disc
> > with my USB-HD plugged in, I get every time an "InitDisk Illegal
> > relocation entry".
> > Then the starting process is dead and nothing happens anymore.

That is an interesting error. It means that FreeDOS kernel
cannot move itself to the HMA because something is screwed
up in the interrupt handler system. It might mean that your
hardware or BIOS uses memory above the first 1 MB in a way
which breaks DOS=HIGH handling. Try if you can boot when you
do not load HIMEM. If not even that works, then maybe your
BIOS has bad USB drivers and you got some data errors during
boot. Another possible error is that the geometry or partition
layout of the USB disk differ between when you partitioned it
and when DOS sees it, causing some confusion during boot.

If it is the case that you boot FreeDOS from ANOTHER disk,
cdrom or harddisk, while the USB disk is only plugged in
but does not contain DOS, and DOS still gets confused, then
maybe your BIOS drivers for USB are bad. Or maybe the BIOS
drivers cannot handle the case where both a bootable CDROM
and a USB harddisk are present at the same time...

Eric

PS: Arkady, I did get your mail, but I still have to figure
out some things about the various kernel versions, so I did
not reply yet, sorry!


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Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS on USB-HD

[Michael McStarfighter]

Ich nutze 1.0 Full und die Partition ist mit FAT32 formatiert. Allerdings
liegt auch noch ne NTFS-Platte drauf...

2007/2/10, Florian Xaver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:


Ist die Platte schon mit irgend etwas formatiert (zB NTFS)?  Verwendest du
die FreeDOS 1.0- Boot-CD oder noch eine "ältere" Testversion?

LG

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> Ich habe USB-Boot-Unterstützung in meinem BIOS und ein Update steht
> derzeit
> nicht zur Verfügung. Mein Bart PE kann ich ja auch von der USB-Platte
> booten. Und genau das macht mir Kopfzerbrechen. Hast du ne Lösung ?
>
> 2007/2/10, Florian Xaver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> do you have BIOS-support? My extern hard disk is mapped by BIOS and is
>> accessable like any other hard disk. Maybe a BIOS-update helps`?
>>
>> Bye
>> Flo
>>
>> On Sat, 10 Feb 2007 02:00:17 +0100, Michael McStarfighter
>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> > I searched the last month for an answer how to install FreeDOS on an
>> > USB-HD,
>> > but found nothing. Google hadn't help me, too. If I boot the FreeDOS
>> Disc
>> > with my USB-HD plugged in, I get every time an "InitDisk Illegal
>> > relocation
>> > entry". Then the starting process is dead and nothing happens
anymore.
>> > If I
>> > boot the Disc without any plugged-in USB Devices, it is all ok.
>> >
>> > I only want to install the FreeDOS disc on my FAT32 partition, but
how
>> > ???
>> >
>> >
>> > Thx for an answer.
>>
>>
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Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS on USB-HD

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Ist die Platte schon mit irgend etwas formatiert (zB NTFS)?  Verwendest du  
die FreeDOS 1.0- Boot-CD oder noch eine "ältere" Testversion?

LG

On Sat, 10 Feb 2007 10:54:53 +0100, Michael McStarfighter  
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Ich habe USB-Boot-Unterstützung in meinem BIOS und ein Update steht  
> derzeit
> nicht zur Verfügung. Mein Bart PE kann ich ja auch von der USB-Platte
> booten. Und genau das macht mir Kopfzerbrechen. Hast du ne Lösung ?
>
> 2007/2/10, Florian Xaver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> do you have BIOS-support? My extern hard disk is mapped by BIOS and is
>> accessable like any other hard disk. Maybe a BIOS-update helps`?
>>
>> Bye
>> Flo
>>
>> On Sat, 10 Feb 2007 02:00:17 +0100, Michael McStarfighter
>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> > I searched the last month for an answer how to install FreeDOS on an
>> > USB-HD,
>> > but found nothing. Google hadn't help me, too. If I boot the FreeDOS
>> Disc
>> > with my USB-HD plugged in, I get every time an "InitDisk Illegal
>> > relocation
>> > entry". Then the starting process is dead and nothing happens anymore.
>> > If I
>> > boot the Disc without any plugged-in USB Devices, it is all ok.
>> >
>> > I only want to install the FreeDOS disc on my FAT32 partition, but how
>> > ???
>> >
>> >
>> > Thx for an answer.
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS on USB-HD

[Michael McStarfighter]

Ich habe USB-Boot-Unterstützung in meinem BIOS und ein Update steht derzeit
nicht zur Verfügung. Mein Bart PE kann ich ja auch von der USB-Platte
booten. Und genau das macht mir Kopfzerbrechen. Hast du ne Lösung ?

2007/2/10, Florian Xaver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:


Hi,

do you have BIOS-support? My extern hard disk is mapped by BIOS and is
accessable like any other hard disk. Maybe a BIOS-update helps`?

Bye
Flo

On Sat, 10 Feb 2007 02:00:17 +0100, Michael McStarfighter
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I searched the last month for an answer how to install FreeDOS on an
> USB-HD,
> but found nothing. Google hadn't help me, too. If I boot the FreeDOS
Disc
> with my USB-HD plugged in, I get every time an "InitDisk Illegal
> relocation
> entry". Then the starting process is dead and nothing happens anymore.
> If I
> boot the Disc without any plugged-in USB Devices, it is all ok.
>
> I only want to install the FreeDOS disc on my FAT32 partition, but how
> ???
>
>
> Thx for an answer.



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Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS on USB-HD

[Florian Xaver]

Hi,

do you have BIOS-support? My extern hard disk is mapped by BIOS and is  
accessable like any other hard disk. Maybe a BIOS-update helps`?

Bye
  Flo

On Sat, 10 Feb 2007 02:00:17 +0100, Michael McStarfighter  
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I searched the last month for an answer how to install FreeDOS on an  
> USB-HD,
> but found nothing. Google hadn't help me, too. If I boot the FreeDOS Disc
> with my USB-HD plugged in, I get every time an "InitDisk Illegal  
> relocation
> entry". Then the starting process is dead and nothing happens anymore.  
> If I
> boot the Disc without any plugged-in USB Devices, it is all ok.
>
> I only want to install the FreeDOS disc on my FAT32 partition, but how  
> ???
>
>
> Thx for an answer.



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[Freedos-user] FreeDOS on USB-HD

[Michael McStarfighter]

Hi,

I searched the last month for an answer how to install FreeDOS on an USB-HD,
but found nothing. Google hadn't help me, too. If I boot the FreeDOS Disc
with my USB-HD plugged in, I get every time an "InitDisk Illegal relocation
entry". Then the starting process is dead and nothing happens anymore. If I
boot the Disc without any plugged-in USB Devices, it is all ok.

I only want to install the FreeDOS disc on my FAT32 partition, but how ???


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Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos on USB memor stick (partially solved)

[tekno1911]

Well, the MBR is special program located at sector 1 head 0, cylinder 0
with datastructure for partition information. The code for detecting
active Partition is 446 bytes long and then follow the partition table
entries (4 of them):

bootabledb ? ; Indicate active partition slice
beginhead   db ? ; Starting head (0 for primary DOS)
begsector   dw ? ; 
systemcode  db ? ; Tells which OS owns it
endhead db ? ; set to  (65535) for maximum coverage 
sectorend   dw ? ; ditto... 
startsector dd ? ; logical LBA Address of drive partition start   I set
it to 0

would still have to over come 512MB bios limit though? 

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>  Original Message 
> In forum the author sais he really would like to extend the image to the
> full size of a stick, but he doesn't manage to do so because he does not
> know exactly how to change the mbr.
> 
> Perhaps someone of you can help him out.



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Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos on USB memor stick (partially solved)

[Art Fore]

On Fri, 2006-10-20 at 14:13 +0200, Norbert Remmel wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> found a promising project under www.boodaa.de
> 
> There you will find an application called bootdisk2bootstick v0.8.
> This application can create a bootable usb stick using a bootable floppy
> image.
> The only problem is that the usb stick is only 1.44MB in size after
> that, but it is bootable.
> 
> In forum the author sais he really would like to extend the image to the
> full size of a stick, but he doesn't manage to do so because he does not
> know exactly how to change the mbr.
> 
> Perhaps someone of you can help him out.
> 
> Rgds
> 
> Norbert
> 
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Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos on USB memor stick (partially solved)

[Norbert Remmel]

Hi all,

found a promising project under www.boodaa.de

There you will find an application called bootdisk2bootstick v0.8.
This application can create a bootable usb stick using a bootable floppy
image.
The only problem is that the usb stick is only 1.44MB in size after
that, but it is bootable.

In forum the author sais he really would like to extend the image to the
full size of a stick, but he doesn't manage to do so because he does not
know exactly how to change the mbr.

Perhaps someone of you can help him out.

Rgds

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Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos on USB memor stick (partially solved)

[Art Fore]

On Tue, 2006-10-17 at 08:47 +0200, Norbert Remmel wrote:
> Hi Art,
> 
> attached an iso-file which boots freedos and mounts the mass-strorage
> device attached to the usb controller.
> the image also contains fdisk (and xfdisk if fdisk fails), format and
> the sys command for making the usb stick bootable.
> 
> Hope that helps.
> 
> Norbert.
> 

Wrote iso to CDROM and booted from it, it does not see the USB sticks.
Any other suggestions?

Art


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Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos on USB memor stick (partially solved)

[Mark Bailey]

HI Michael:

Once the USB stick is bootable, you can copy the DOS files
needed to the USB stick manually from Windows (or Linux).
If you have FreeDOS installed to a hard disk partition
somewhere, you could copy the files from there.  If I
wanted the full FreeDOS installation, I'd install it
to a hard disk partition first and then copy all of
the files on the partition to the USB stick under Windows
(or Linux).

Mark

Michael McStarfighter wrote:
> How do you install the full distro onto an USB flash drive / USB-HD? The HP
> tool doesn't work for this, especially not with an USB-HD. And everytime I
> boot the FreeDOS full CD with a plugged-in USB-HD or USB flash drive, there
> comes an "Invalid Opcode" and then it stops.
> 
> So what to do ?
> 
> 

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Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos on USB memor stick (partially solved)

[Panigaz]

please remove my email from list !
tnkx !!





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Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 4:59 AM
Subject: Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos on USB memor stick (partially solved)


> Hi Art,
>
> attached an iso-file which boots freedos and mounts the mass-strorage
> device attached to the usb controller.
> the image also contains fdisk (and xfdisk if fdisk fails), format and
> the sys command for making the usb stick bootable.
>
> Hope that helps.
>
> Norbert.
>
>
> P.S. Due to sourceforge rejecting messages with attached zip-files this
> is just a copy of the original message without the iso-image-file.
>
>
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Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos on USB memor stick (partially solved)

[Eric Auer]

Norbert, if you had REALLY sent the file to the list, then
95% of the many readers of this MAILING LIST would have been
quite angry at you now because their mailbox got flooded with
an unrequested large ISO file. So it is good that you did not
manage to send the file through the list. As a general rule,
please do never send ANY files to the list. Just send messages.

Thanks! Eric

> attached an iso-file which boots freedos and mounts the mass-storage
> device attached to the usb controller.
> the image also contains fdisk (and xfdisk if fdisk fails), format and
> the sys command for making the usb stick bootable.

> P.S. Due to sourceforge rejecting messages with attached zip-files this
> is just a copy of the original message without the iso-image-file.

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Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos on USB memor stick (partially solved)

[Norbert Remmel]

Hi Art,

attached an iso-file which boots freedos and mounts the mass-strorage
device attached to the usb controller.
the image also contains fdisk (and xfdisk if fdisk fails), format and
the sys command for making the usb stick bootable.

Hope that helps.

Norbert.


P.S. Due to sourceforge rejecting messages with attached zip-files this
is just a copy of the original message without the iso-image-file.



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Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos on USB memor stick (partially solved)

[Blair Campbell]

uhh, that's been done for a few months.  look at [distro dir]/pkgs
(like www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/distributions/1.0/pkgs)

On 10/16/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Has anyone thought of breaking the freedos.iso image into zip archives
> and allowing users to download it in peices? would be better than
> messing around with cdrom image files of megabyte proportion>?
>
> --chris
> http://www.aotksc.com/
>
> >  Original Message ----
> > Subject: Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos on USB memor stick (partially
> > solved)
> > From: "Michael McStarfighter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Date: Mon, October 16, 2006 2:37 pm
> > To: freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net
> >
> >
> > How do you install the full distro onto an USB flash drive / USB-HD? The
> HP tool doesn't work for this, especially not with an USB-HD. And everytime
> I boot the FreeDOS full CD with a plugged-in USB-HD or USB flash drive,
> there comes an "Invalid Opcode" and then it stops.
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Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos on USB memor stick (partially solved)

[tekno1911]

Has anyone thought of breaking the freedos.iso image into zip archives
and allowing users to download it in peices? would be better than
messing around with cdrom image files of megabyte proportion>? 

--chris
http://www.aotksc.com/

>  Original Message 
> Subject: Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos on USB memor stick (partially
> solved)
> From: "Michael McStarfighter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Mon, October 16, 2006 2:37 pm
> To: freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net
> 
> 
> How do you install the full distro onto an USB flash drive / USB-HD? The HP 
> tool doesn't work for this, especially not with an USB-HD. And everytime I 
> boot the FreeDOS full CD with a plugged-in USB-HD or USB flash drive, there 
> comes an "Invalid Opcode" and then it stops.  
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Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos on USB memor stick (partially solved)

[Michael McStarfighter]

How do you install the full distro onto an USB flash drive / USB-HD? The HP tool doesn't work for this, especially not with an USB-HD. And everytime I boot the FreeDOS full CD with a plugged-in USB-HD or USB flash drive, there comes an "Invalid Opcode" and then it stops.

 
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Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos on USB memor stick (partially solved)

[Geraldo Netto]

Hi Art,

I think you can try "mount -t vfat -oloop
/opt/freedfos/freedosfile.img /mnt/freedos"

Geraldo

On 16/10/06, Art Fore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Got interuppted on this subject, but back on it now. I have got two USB
> sticks formated with the HP program. Can read and write to both as fat32
> from Linux or Windows.
>
> Downloaded the USBASPI.SYS and DI1000DD.SYS and have them available.
>
> How ever, I tried the links in Mark Baily's last email
>
> http://chitchat.at.infoseek.co.jp/vmware/vfd.html
>
> http://people.debian.org/~psg/ddg/node159.html
>
> http://bochs.sourceforge.net/doc/docbook/user/loop-device-usage.html
>
> But had no success with any of them. Here is what I have.
>
> A full freedos image (about 150 MB) running under qemu. I want to mount
> it and add the USBASPI.SYS and DI1000DD.SYS files and edit the
> config.sys file.
>
> Image is in /opt/freedos/freedosfile.img and runs fine under qemu except
> I can't do much with it since it does not see the USB drives.
> I have a folder /mnt/freedos
>
> Now, what is the exact syntax I would use to do this loop thing and
> mount /opt/freedos/freedosfile.img on /mnt/freedos
>
> I tried a number of variations on the commands in the links above, but
> somewhere, I am not getting it quite right.
>
> TIA
>
> Art
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Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos on USB memor stick (partially solved)

[Mark Bailey]

If you can boot from the USB stick, you don't need and
can't use USBASPI.SYS and DI1000DD.SYS. If the
BIOS will boot the USB stick, it will automatically
appear as either A: or C:.  Try that.

Mark

Art Fore wrote:
[...]
> 
> Downloaded the USBASPI.SYS and DI1000DD.SYS and have them available.
> 
> How ever, I tried the links in Mark Baily's last email
> 
> http://chitchat.at.infoseek.co.jp/vmware/vfd.html
> 
> http://people.debian.org/~psg/ddg/node159.html
> 
> http://bochs.sourceforge.net/doc/docbook/user/loop-device-usage.html 
> 
> But had no success with any of them. Here is what I have.
> 
> A full freedos image (about 150 MB) running under qemu. I want to mount
> it and add the USBASPI.SYS and DI1000DD.SYS files and edit the
> config.sys file.
> 
> Image is in /opt/freedos/freedosfile.img and runs fine under qemu except
> I can't do much with it since it does not see the USB drives.
> I have a folder /mnt/freedos
> 
> Now, what is the exact syntax I would use to do this loop thing and
> mount /opt/freedos/freedosfile.img on /mnt/freedos
> 
> I tried a number of variations on the commands in the links above, but
> somewhere, I am not getting it quite right.
> 
> TIA
> 
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Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos on USB memor stick (partially solved)

[Art Fore]

Got interuppted on this subject, but back on it now. I have got two USB
sticks formated with the HP program. Can read and write to both as fat32
from Linux or Windows.

Downloaded the USBASPI.SYS and DI1000DD.SYS and have them available.

How ever, I tried the links in Mark Baily's last email

http://chitchat.at.infoseek.co.jp/vmware/vfd.html

http://people.debian.org/~psg/ddg/node159.html

http://bochs.sourceforge.net/doc/docbook/user/loop-device-usage.html 

But had no success with any of them. Here is what I have.

A full freedos image (about 150 MB) running under qemu. I want to mount
it and add the USBASPI.SYS and DI1000DD.SYS files and edit the
config.sys file.

Image is in /opt/freedos/freedosfile.img and runs fine under qemu except
I can't do much with it since it does not see the USB drives.
I have a folder /mnt/freedos

Now, what is the exact syntax I would use to do this loop thing and
mount /opt/freedos/freedosfile.img on /mnt/freedos

I tried a number of variations on the commands in the links above, but
somewhere, I am not getting it quite right.

TIA

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Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos on USB memor stick (partially solved)

[Mark Bailey]

Norbert Remmel wrote:
> 
> The only thing I don't know is how to create a floppy image file under
> linux or a bootable iso-file with floppy emulation because I'm not
> working with linux based systems.
> 
> Norbert.
> 

Use mkisofs.  See http://www.itg.uiuc.edu/help/mkisofs/mkisofs.htm
(The same utility is available on Windows also).

I have found booting with ISOLINUX more reliable than direct floppy
disk emulation for DOS CD's.

 mkisofs -o output.iso \
-b isolinux/isolinux.bin -c isolinux/boot.cat \
-no-emul-boot -boot-load-size 4 -boot-info-table \
root-of-iso-tree

use memdisk, and create the appropriate isolinux.cfg file.

To boot the floppy disk image directly, use something like

mkisofs -b boot.img -c boot.cat -o cd.iso boot.img \


This is the same command I use under Windows.  The easiest way
I've found to manipulate floppy disk images under windows
(for free) is the VFD program that mounts the floppy disk
image as a floppy disk drive (with drive letter) and lets
you use Windows to manipulate it.

http://chitchat.at.infoseek.co.jp/vmware/vfd.html

To do this under Linux, use the "loop" device.  See
http://people.debian.org/~psg/ddg/node159.html

or

http://bochs.sourceforge.net/doc/docbook/user/loop-device-usage.html

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Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos on USB memor stick (partially solved)

[Norbert Remmel]

Hi Art,

>> I have found this utility to work very well under WindowsXP to make
>> bootable DOS USB sticks.  If you have access to a Windows computer,
>> it would be worth a try.
>>
>> http://h18000.www1.hp.com/support/files/serveroptions/us/download/20306.html
>>

This utility is the right and easiest choice for a windows system, but
there is another possibility that might work on linux as well.

The only thing I don't know is how to create a floppy image file under
linux or a bootable iso-file with floppy emulation because I'm not
working with linux based systems.
I know that you can use a floppy image file in BOCHS and change its
content. Even if BOCHS is extremely slow you might consider this as a
chance under linux.

What you need in the end is a bootable iso file with either 1,44MB or
2,88MB floppy emulation.

At first you will need this file:
http://tinyurl.com/ybehot
This selfextracting archive contains the latest USBASPI.SYS V2.20 from
Panasonic.

The next thing you need is the following file:
http://tinyurl.com/y9zhkv
This archive contains the file DI1000DD.SYS V2.0 from Novac.

Add the following commands to your CONFIG.SYS file:
DEVICE = USBASPI.SYS
DEVICE = DI1000DD.SYS

These drivers will recognize your usb stick as a harddrive during
freedos boot process.

Put Freedos FDISK and FORMAT into your created image-file to be able to
partionate and format your usb stick.

Further on you will need the freedos system files in your image.
Use SYS to make your usb stick bootable.

If your bios already supports bootable usb sticks you won't need the
USBASPI.SYS and DI1000DD.SYS files because the bios itself will use the
usb stick as a harddrive and that's why you can directly use your usb
stick under freedos.

Don't try to separate you usb stick in more than one partition. That
won't work at all.

If you don't manage to create a bootable iso-file under linux don't
hesitate to ask.
I will do that for you under windows and send you a ready iso.

Norbert.


P.S. The only thing I don't understand is why FREEDOS in both above
mentioned cases is somtimes (not always) complaining about suspect CHS
partition parameters during the boot process. But in the end everything
works fine.

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Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos on USB memor stick (partially solved)

[Art Fore]

OK, I will take the file to work where I can access an Xp mchine and see
what happens.

But still have some strange things happen that makes my head hurt. I
have freedos running under qemu. 

have to go to work now. Will write more later.

Art

On Thu, 2006-10-12 at 12:59 -0400, Mark Bailey wrote:
> 
> Bernd Blaauw wrote:
> > Art Fore schreef:
> [...]
> > 
> > Furthermore there's some tool from HP to configure flash USB disks to 
> > make them bootable. [...]
> > 
> > Bernd
> > 
> Hi Art and Bernd:
> 
> I have found this utility to work very well under WindowsXP to make
> bootable DOS USB sticks.  If you have access to a Windows computer,
> it would be worth a try.
> 
> http://h18000.www1.hp.com/support/files/serveroptions/us/download/20306.html
> 
> If your goal is just to run this one flash utility, you may want to use
> a bootable DOS CD with the CD driver installed and just put the files on
> the CD.  This could be a modified fdbasecd.iso file which already has a
> CDROM driver.
> 
> Mark
> 
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Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos on USB memor stick (partially solved)

[Mark Bailey]

Bernd Blaauw wrote:
> Art Fore schreef:
[...]
> 
> Furthermore there's some tool from HP to configure flash USB disks to 
> make them bootable. [...]
> 
> Bernd
> 
Hi Art and Bernd:

I have found this utility to work very well under WindowsXP to make
bootable DOS USB sticks.  If you have access to a Windows computer,
it would be worth a try.

http://h18000.www1.hp.com/support/files/serveroptions/us/download/20306.html

If your goal is just to run this one flash utility, you may want to use
a bootable DOS CD with the CD driver installed and just put the files on
the CD.  This could be a modified fdbasecd.iso file which already has a
CDROM driver.

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Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos on USB memor stick (partially solved)

[Cristi Mitrana]

On 10/12/06, Art Fore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
[...]
>
> How can I add files to the qemmu freedos image? Had no success on even
> doing this. Cannot see with ls either since it is a .img file. Can you
> really copy files to and from Freedos? If so, how?
>
> Art

A Qemu image can be loop-mounted under linux, see:
http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Qemu#Mounting_the_hard_disk_image

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Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos on USB memor stick (partially solved)

[Bernd Blaauw]

Art Fore schreef:
> Giving up for tonight. Installed Freedos 1.0 under QEMU in SuSE 101. Go
> through the exersize of crating Freedos on the USB stick, it installs, I
> can boot it in qemmu. Pull it out, and put it in the laptop and boot,
> comes up with no OS. Cannot see any files on the stick with ls on either
> sdd or sdd1. When I boot the usbstick in qemmu, it comes uip C:. 
>
> How can I add files to the qemmu freedos image? Had no success on even
> doing this. Cannot see with ls either since it is a .img file. Can you
> really copy files to and from Freedos? If so, how?
>   
WinImage 8.00 can mount harddisk images fine

Furthermore there's some tool from HP to configure flash USB disks to 
make them bootable. The Syslinux project should have some scripts as well.
Sorry for not being able to provide an URL to the HP tool at the moment.

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Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos on USB memor stick (partially solved)

[Art Fore]

Giving up for tonight. Installed Freedos 1.0 under QEMU in SuSE 101. Go
through the exersize of crating Freedos on the USB stick, it installs, I
can boot it in qemmu. Pull it out, and put it in the laptop and boot,
comes up with no OS. Cannot see any files on the stick with ls on either
sdd or sdd1. When I boot the usbstick in qemmu, it comes uip C:. 

How can I add files to the qemmu freedos image? Had no success on even
doing this. Cannot see with ls either since it is a .img file. Can you
really copy files to and from Freedos? If so, how?

Art

On Wed, 2006-10-11 at 20:21 -0400, Mark Bailey wrote:
> Hi Art:
> 
> Well, if the "ls" command from Linux sees the DOS files on the USB
> stick (that are booting) on either /dev/sdd or /dev/sdd1, then
> doing a "cp" to the appropriate device, where Linux should now see
> the DOS files and the ones you added, should put the files you want
> on a large USB disk.  When you boot the USB stick, does it boot
> as A: or C:?  It should boot to that prompt and a "DIR" command
> should show the DOS files (at least kernel.sys and command.com).
> Does it?
> 
> Are you using the new FreeDOS 1.0 release?  There was a nasty
> bug with booting USB sticks on machines without floppy disk
> drives in some earlier FreeDOS versions.
> 
> Mark
> 
> Art Fore wrote:
> > I understand now a bit more from your info and Eric Auers. I have a
> > couple of problems though. I do not have anything with dos on it other
> > than a CDROM with freedos.
> > If I boot with the CDROM, I cannot see the USB drives. Any way to do
> > that? If I could, I would be there.
> > Booting from USB drive, I cannot access any other drive except A:
> > If I do fdisk from linux command line, I cannot see anything but the
> > first harddrive and cannot change harddrives.
> > 
> > So, how do I see the usb drive from either another USB drive or from the
> > CEROM. 
> > (I also do not have Windows, only Suse linux 10.1 and the free dos
> > cdrom}
> > 
> > Art
> > 
> > On Wed, 2006-10-11 at 15:02 -0400, Mark Bailey wrote:
> >> Hi Art:
> >>
> >> I am far from an expert here, but there are two models for booting
> >> from a USB stick.  One is a "superfloppy" model where the entire
> >> USB stick is formatted as a single giant floppy disk and the
> >> other mode is where the USB stick has an MBR and is treated
> >> basically like a hard disk.
> >>
> >> See http://www.marlow.dk/site.php/tech/usbkeys
> >>
> >> Some (most?) BIOS's only support one mode or the other.  Linux
> >> can support either, using device /dev/sda (superfloppy) or
> >> /dev/sda1 (like a hard disk).
> >>
> >> # To format the drive in superfloppy format, you simply do:
> >>
> >>mkdosfs -I /dev/sda
> >>
> >>
> >> # Formatting in harddisk requires more steps, if it's not allready 
> >> formatted that way:
> >>
> >>dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda bs=512 count=1
> >>
> >>
> >> to erase the start of the USB Key. After that you can do a "fdisk 
> >> /dev/sda" and create a new FAT partition (FAT16 is suitable). To install 
> >> a MBR and format the key afterwards, do
> >>
> >>install-mbr /dev/sda --force
> >>mkdosfs -I /dev/sda1
> >>
> >> Have you checked to see if there is a D: drive?  Have you used the
> >> "attrib" command to see if the files are "hidden" for some reason?
> >>
> >> Good luck!  Let me know if either of these suggestions help.
> >>
> >> Mark
> >>
> >> Art Fore wrote:
> >>> That did not work. Look at the partitions in yast partitioner, it
> >>> shows /dev/sdd a  the disk drive, and /dev/sdd1 as a fat partition.
> >>> executing ms-sys -s /dev/sdd ; sync, I get Public domain syslinux master
> >>> boot record successfully written to /dev/sdd
> >>> Executing syslinux /dev/sdd ; sync, I get
> >>> syslinux: this doesn't look like a valid FAT filesystem
> >>> Executing syslinux /dev/sdd ; sync, I get a successful install. Tried
> >>> deleting the sdd1 partition, no luck. Tried copying the files to sdd,
> >>> that went ok, but they ended up in sdd1.
> >>>
> >>> Does not make sense to me.
> >>>
> >>> I would like to have the whole 256 meg as dos drive, but the .bin
> >>> and .exe flash burning files do not even show up when booted to dos. 
> >>>
> >>> Art
> >>>
> >>> On Wed, 2006-10-11 at 13:13 -0400, Mark Bailey wrote:
>  Try copying the files to /dev/sdd
> 
>  Since you had to do syslinux to /dev/sdd, and /dev/sdd1
>  didn't look like a valid FAT filesystem, I'm not sure
>  what the copy to /dev/sdd1 actually did.
> 
>  Mark
> 
>  Art Fore wrote:
> > Have been trying unsuccessfully for two days to get freedos on a cruzer
> > 256 meg memory stick. Best procedure I found was
> > http://users.dslextreme.com/~craig.lawson/linux_notes/flashing_bios.html
> > but did not work in the last step 
> > syslinux /dev/sdd1 ; sync
> > syslinux: this doesn't look like a valid FAT filesystem
> >
> > Why is this? How do I fix this?
> >
> > Ar

Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos on USB memor stick (partially solved)

[Mark Bailey]

Hi Art:

Well, if the "ls" command from Linux sees the DOS files on the USB
stick (that are booting) on either /dev/sdd or /dev/sdd1, then
doing a "cp" to the appropriate device, where Linux should now see
the DOS files and the ones you added, should put the files you want
on a large USB disk.  When you boot the USB stick, does it boot
as A: or C:?  It should boot to that prompt and a "DIR" command
should show the DOS files (at least kernel.sys and command.com).
Does it?

Are you using the new FreeDOS 1.0 release?  There was a nasty
bug with booting USB sticks on machines without floppy disk
drives in some earlier FreeDOS versions.

Mark

Art Fore wrote:
> I understand now a bit more from your info and Eric Auers. I have a
> couple of problems though. I do not have anything with dos on it other
> than a CDROM with freedos.
> If I boot with the CDROM, I cannot see the USB drives. Any way to do
> that? If I could, I would be there.
> Booting from USB drive, I cannot access any other drive except A:
> If I do fdisk from linux command line, I cannot see anything but the
> first harddrive and cannot change harddrives.
> 
> So, how do I see the usb drive from either another USB drive or from the
> CEROM. 
> (I also do not have Windows, only Suse linux 10.1 and the free dos
> cdrom}
> 
> Art
> 
> On Wed, 2006-10-11 at 15:02 -0400, Mark Bailey wrote:
>> Hi Art:
>>
>> I am far from an expert here, but there are two models for booting
>> from a USB stick.  One is a "superfloppy" model where the entire
>> USB stick is formatted as a single giant floppy disk and the
>> other mode is where the USB stick has an MBR and is treated
>> basically like a hard disk.
>>
>> See http://www.marlow.dk/site.php/tech/usbkeys
>>
>> Some (most?) BIOS's only support one mode or the other.  Linux
>> can support either, using device /dev/sda (superfloppy) or
>> /dev/sda1 (like a hard disk).
>>
>> # To format the drive in superfloppy format, you simply do:
>>
>>mkdosfs -I /dev/sda
>>
>>
>> # Formatting in harddisk requires more steps, if it's not allready 
>> formatted that way:
>>
>>dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda bs=512 count=1
>>  
>>
>> to erase the start of the USB Key. After that you can do a "fdisk 
>> /dev/sda" and create a new FAT partition (FAT16 is suitable). To install 
>> a MBR and format the key afterwards, do
>>
>>install-mbr /dev/sda --force
>>mkdosfs -I /dev/sda1
>>
>> Have you checked to see if there is a D: drive?  Have you used the
>> "attrib" command to see if the files are "hidden" for some reason?
>>
>> Good luck!  Let me know if either of these suggestions help.
>>
>> Mark
>>
>> Art Fore wrote:
>>> That did not work. Look at the partitions in yast partitioner, it
>>> shows /dev/sdd a  the disk drive, and /dev/sdd1 as a fat partition.
>>> executing ms-sys -s /dev/sdd ; sync, I get Public domain syslinux master
>>> boot record successfully written to /dev/sdd
>>> Executing syslinux /dev/sdd ; sync, I get
>>> syslinux: this doesn't look like a valid FAT filesystem
>>> Executing syslinux /dev/sdd ; sync, I get a successful install. Tried
>>> deleting the sdd1 partition, no luck. Tried copying the files to sdd,
>>> that went ok, but they ended up in sdd1.
>>>
>>> Does not make sense to me.
>>>
>>> I would like to have the whole 256 meg as dos drive, but the .bin
>>> and .exe flash burning files do not even show up when booted to dos. 
>>>
>>> Art
>>>
>>> On Wed, 2006-10-11 at 13:13 -0400, Mark Bailey wrote:
 Try copying the files to /dev/sdd

 Since you had to do syslinux to /dev/sdd, and /dev/sdd1
 didn't look like a valid FAT filesystem, I'm not sure
 what the copy to /dev/sdd1 actually did.

 Mark

 Art Fore wrote:
> Have been trying unsuccessfully for two days to get freedos on a cruzer
> 256 meg memory stick. Best procedure I found was
> http://users.dslextreme.com/~craig.lawson/linux_notes/flashing_bios.html
> but did not work in the last step 
> syslinux /dev/sdd1 ; sync
> syslinux: this doesn't look like a valid FAT filesystem
>
> Why is this? How do I fix this?
>
> Art
>
> Gave it one last try and got it. The last two statements are a little 
> misleading. It shows both /dev/sd??.
> Last statement should have been syslinux /dev/sdd ; sync.
>
> Still have one problem. I copied the .rom and .exe files for BIOS update 
> to /media/usbdisk (/dev/sdd1), but they do not show up after boothing 
> from the usb drive. If I look at it in Linux, it shows them. So, what is 
> the secret?
>
> Art
>
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Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos on USB memor stick (partially solved)

[Art Fore]

Something I forgot to mention, I also do not have a floppy drive and
have not had for years.

Art

On Wed, 2006-10-11 at 15:02 -0400, Mark Bailey wrote:
> Hi Art:
> 
> I am far from an expert here, but there are two models for booting
> from a USB stick.  One is a "superfloppy" model where the entire
> USB stick is formatted as a single giant floppy disk and the
> other mode is where the USB stick has an MBR and is treated
> basically like a hard disk.
> 
> See http://www.marlow.dk/site.php/tech/usbkeys
> 
> Some (most?) BIOS's only support one mode or the other.  Linux
> can support either, using device /dev/sda (superfloppy) or
> /dev/sda1 (like a hard disk).
> 
> # To format the drive in superfloppy format, you simply do:
> 
>mkdosfs -I /dev/sda
> 
> 
> # Formatting in harddisk requires more steps, if it's not allready 
> formatted that way:
> 
>dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda bs=512 count=1
>   
> 
> to erase the start of the USB Key. After that you can do a "fdisk 
> /dev/sda" and create a new FAT partition (FAT16 is suitable). To install 
> a MBR and format the key afterwards, do
> 
>install-mbr /dev/sda --force
>mkdosfs -I /dev/sda1
> 
> Have you checked to see if there is a D: drive?  Have you used the
> "attrib" command to see if the files are "hidden" for some reason?
> 
> Good luck!  Let me know if either of these suggestions help.
> 
> Mark
> 
> Art Fore wrote:
> > That did not work. Look at the partitions in yast partitioner, it
> > shows /dev/sdd a  the disk drive, and /dev/sdd1 as a fat partition.
> > executing ms-sys -s /dev/sdd ; sync, I get Public domain syslinux master
> > boot record successfully written to /dev/sdd
> > Executing syslinux /dev/sdd ; sync, I get
> > syslinux: this doesn't look like a valid FAT filesystem
> > Executing syslinux /dev/sdd ; sync, I get a successful install. Tried
> > deleting the sdd1 partition, no luck. Tried copying the files to sdd,
> > that went ok, but they ended up in sdd1.
> > 
> > Does not make sense to me.
> > 
> > I would like to have the whole 256 meg as dos drive, but the .bin
> > and .exe flash burning files do not even show up when booted to dos. 
> > 
> > Art
> > 
> > On Wed, 2006-10-11 at 13:13 -0400, Mark Bailey wrote:
> >> Try copying the files to /dev/sdd
> >>
> >> Since you had to do syslinux to /dev/sdd, and /dev/sdd1
> >> didn't look like a valid FAT filesystem, I'm not sure
> >> what the copy to /dev/sdd1 actually did.
> >>
> >> Mark
> >>
> >> Art Fore wrote:
> >>> Have been trying unsuccessfully for two days to get freedos on a cruzer
> >>> 256 meg memory stick. Best procedure I found was
> >>> http://users.dslextreme.com/~craig.lawson/linux_notes/flashing_bios.html
> >>> but did not work in the last step 
> >>> syslinux /dev/sdd1 ; sync
> >>> syslinux: this doesn't look like a valid FAT filesystem
> >>>
> >>> Why is this? How do I fix this?
> >>>
> >>> Art
> >>>
> >>> Gave it one last try and got it. The last two statements are a little 
> >>> misleading. It shows both /dev/sd??.
> >>> Last statement should have been syslinux /dev/sdd ; sync.
> >>>
> >>> Still have one problem. I copied the .rom and .exe files for BIOS update 
> >>> to /media/usbdisk (/dev/sdd1), but they do not show up after boothing 
> >>> from the usb drive. If I look at it in Linux, it shows them. So, what is 
> >>> the secret?
> >>>
> >>> Art
> >>>
> >>>
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Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos on USB memor stick (partially solved)

[Art Fore]

I understand now a bit more from your info and Eric Auers. I have a
couple of problems though. I do not have anything with dos on it other
than a CDROM with freedos.
If I boot with the CDROM, I cannot see the USB drives. Any way to do
that? If I could, I would be there.
Booting from USB drive, I cannot access any other drive except A:
If I do fdisk from linux command line, I cannot see anything but the
first harddrive and cannot change harddrives.

So, how do I see the usb drive from either another USB drive or from the
CEROM. 
(I also do not have Windows, only Suse linux 10.1 and the free dos
cdrom}

Art

On Wed, 2006-10-11 at 15:02 -0400, Mark Bailey wrote:
> Hi Art:
> 
> I am far from an expert here, but there are two models for booting
> from a USB stick.  One is a "superfloppy" model where the entire
> USB stick is formatted as a single giant floppy disk and the
> other mode is where the USB stick has an MBR and is treated
> basically like a hard disk.
> 
> See http://www.marlow.dk/site.php/tech/usbkeys
> 
> Some (most?) BIOS's only support one mode or the other.  Linux
> can support either, using device /dev/sda (superfloppy) or
> /dev/sda1 (like a hard disk).
> 
> # To format the drive in superfloppy format, you simply do:
> 
>mkdosfs -I /dev/sda
> 
> 
> # Formatting in harddisk requires more steps, if it's not allready 
> formatted that way:
> 
>dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda bs=512 count=1
>   
> 
> to erase the start of the USB Key. After that you can do a "fdisk 
> /dev/sda" and create a new FAT partition (FAT16 is suitable). To install 
> a MBR and format the key afterwards, do
> 
>install-mbr /dev/sda --force
>mkdosfs -I /dev/sda1
> 
> Have you checked to see if there is a D: drive?  Have you used the
> "attrib" command to see if the files are "hidden" for some reason?
> 
> Good luck!  Let me know if either of these suggestions help.
> 
> Mark
> 
> Art Fore wrote:
> > That did not work. Look at the partitions in yast partitioner, it
> > shows /dev/sdd a  the disk drive, and /dev/sdd1 as a fat partition.
> > executing ms-sys -s /dev/sdd ; sync, I get Public domain syslinux master
> > boot record successfully written to /dev/sdd
> > Executing syslinux /dev/sdd ; sync, I get
> > syslinux: this doesn't look like a valid FAT filesystem
> > Executing syslinux /dev/sdd ; sync, I get a successful install. Tried
> > deleting the sdd1 partition, no luck. Tried copying the files to sdd,
> > that went ok, but they ended up in sdd1.
> > 
> > Does not make sense to me.
> > 
> > I would like to have the whole 256 meg as dos drive, but the .bin
> > and .exe flash burning files do not even show up when booted to dos. 
> > 
> > Art
> > 
> > On Wed, 2006-10-11 at 13:13 -0400, Mark Bailey wrote:
> >> Try copying the files to /dev/sdd
> >>
> >> Since you had to do syslinux to /dev/sdd, and /dev/sdd1
> >> didn't look like a valid FAT filesystem, I'm not sure
> >> what the copy to /dev/sdd1 actually did.
> >>
> >> Mark
> >>
> >> Art Fore wrote:
> >>> Have been trying unsuccessfully for two days to get freedos on a cruzer
> >>> 256 meg memory stick. Best procedure I found was
> >>> http://users.dslextreme.com/~craig.lawson/linux_notes/flashing_bios.html
> >>> but did not work in the last step 
> >>> syslinux /dev/sdd1 ; sync
> >>> syslinux: this doesn't look like a valid FAT filesystem
> >>>
> >>> Why is this? How do I fix this?
> >>>
> >>> Art
> >>>
> >>> Gave it one last try and got it. The last two statements are a little 
> >>> misleading. It shows both /dev/sd??.
> >>> Last statement should have been syslinux /dev/sdd ; sync.
> >>>
> >>> Still have one problem. I copied the .rom and .exe files for BIOS update 
> >>> to /media/usbdisk (/dev/sdd1), but they do not show up after boothing 
> >>> from the usb drive. If I look at it in Linux, it shows them. So, what is 
> >>> the secret?
> >>>
> >>> Art
> >>>
> >>>
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Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos on USB memor stick (partially solved)

[Mark Bailey]

Hi Art:

I am far from an expert here, but there are two models for booting
from a USB stick.  One is a "superfloppy" model where the entire
USB stick is formatted as a single giant floppy disk and the
other mode is where the USB stick has an MBR and is treated
basically like a hard disk.

See http://www.marlow.dk/site.php/tech/usbkeys

Some (most?) BIOS's only support one mode or the other.  Linux
can support either, using device /dev/sda (superfloppy) or
/dev/sda1 (like a hard disk).

# To format the drive in superfloppy format, you simply do:

   mkdosfs -I /dev/sda


# Formatting in harddisk requires more steps, if it's not allready 
formatted that way:

   dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda bs=512 count=1


to erase the start of the USB Key. After that you can do a "fdisk 
/dev/sda" and create a new FAT partition (FAT16 is suitable). To install 
a MBR and format the key afterwards, do

   install-mbr /dev/sda --force
   mkdosfs -I /dev/sda1

Have you checked to see if there is a D: drive?  Have you used the
"attrib" command to see if the files are "hidden" for some reason?

Good luck!  Let me know if either of these suggestions help.

Mark

Art Fore wrote:
> That did not work. Look at the partitions in yast partitioner, it
> shows /dev/sdd a  the disk drive, and /dev/sdd1 as a fat partition.
> executing ms-sys -s /dev/sdd ; sync, I get Public domain syslinux master
> boot record successfully written to /dev/sdd
> Executing syslinux /dev/sdd ; sync, I get
> syslinux: this doesn't look like a valid FAT filesystem
> Executing syslinux /dev/sdd ; sync, I get a successful install. Tried
> deleting the sdd1 partition, no luck. Tried copying the files to sdd,
> that went ok, but they ended up in sdd1.
> 
> Does not make sense to me.
> 
> I would like to have the whole 256 meg as dos drive, but the .bin
> and .exe flash burning files do not even show up when booted to dos. 
> 
> Art
> 
> On Wed, 2006-10-11 at 13:13 -0400, Mark Bailey wrote:
>> Try copying the files to /dev/sdd
>>
>> Since you had to do syslinux to /dev/sdd, and /dev/sdd1
>> didn't look like a valid FAT filesystem, I'm not sure
>> what the copy to /dev/sdd1 actually did.
>>
>> Mark
>>
>> Art Fore wrote:
>>> Have been trying unsuccessfully for two days to get freedos on a cruzer
>>> 256 meg memory stick. Best procedure I found was
>>> http://users.dslextreme.com/~craig.lawson/linux_notes/flashing_bios.html
>>> but did not work in the last step 
>>> syslinux /dev/sdd1 ; sync
>>> syslinux: this doesn't look like a valid FAT filesystem
>>>
>>> Why is this? How do I fix this?
>>>
>>> Art
>>>
>>> Gave it one last try and got it. The last two statements are a little 
>>> misleading. It shows both /dev/sd??.
>>> Last statement should have been syslinux /dev/sdd ; sync.
>>>
>>> Still have one problem. I copied the .rom and .exe files for BIOS update to 
>>> /media/usbdisk (/dev/sdd1), but they do not show up after boothing from the 
>>> usb drive. If I look at it in Linux, it shows them. So, what is the secret?
>>>
>>> Art
>>>
>>>
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Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos on USB memor stick (partially solved)

[Art Fore]

That did not work. Look at the partitions in yast partitioner, it
shows /dev/sdd a  the disk drive, and /dev/sdd1 as a fat partition.
executing ms-sys -s /dev/sdd ; sync, I get Public domain syslinux master
boot record successfully written to /dev/sdd
Executing syslinux /dev/sdd ; sync, I get
syslinux: this doesn't look like a valid FAT filesystem
Executing syslinux /dev/sdd ; sync, I get a successful install. Tried
deleting the sdd1 partition, no luck. Tried copying the files to sdd,
that went ok, but they ended up in sdd1.

Does not make sense to me.

I would like to have the whole 256 meg as dos drive, but the .bin
and .exe flash burning files do not even show up when booted to dos. 

Art

On Wed, 2006-10-11 at 13:13 -0400, Mark Bailey wrote:
> Try copying the files to /dev/sdd
> 
> Since you had to do syslinux to /dev/sdd, and /dev/sdd1
> didn't look like a valid FAT filesystem, I'm not sure
> what the copy to /dev/sdd1 actually did.
> 
> Mark
> 
> Art Fore wrote:
> > Have been trying unsuccessfully for two days to get freedos on a cruzer
> > 256 meg memory stick. Best procedure I found was
> > http://users.dslextreme.com/~craig.lawson/linux_notes/flashing_bios.html
> > but did not work in the last step 
> > syslinux /dev/sdd1 ; sync
> > syslinux: this doesn't look like a valid FAT filesystem
> > 
> > Why is this? How do I fix this?
> > 
> > Art
> > 
> > Gave it one last try and got it. The last two statements are a little 
> > misleading. It shows both /dev/sd??.
> > Last statement should have been syslinux /dev/sdd ; sync.
> > 
> > Still have one problem. I copied the .rom and .exe files for BIOS update to 
> > /media/usbdisk (/dev/sdd1), but they do not show up after boothing from the 
> > usb drive. If I look at it in Linux, it shows them. So, what is the secret?
> > 
> > Art
> > 
> > 
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Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos on USB memor stick (partially solved)

[Mark Bailey]

Try copying the files to /dev/sdd

Since you had to do syslinux to /dev/sdd, and /dev/sdd1
didn't look like a valid FAT filesystem, I'm not sure
what the copy to /dev/sdd1 actually did.

Mark

Art Fore wrote:
> Have been trying unsuccessfully for two days to get freedos on a cruzer
> 256 meg memory stick. Best procedure I found was
> http://users.dslextreme.com/~craig.lawson/linux_notes/flashing_bios.html
> but did not work in the last step 
> syslinux /dev/sdd1 ; sync
> syslinux: this doesn't look like a valid FAT filesystem
> 
> Why is this? How do I fix this?
> 
> Art
> 
> Gave it one last try and got it. The last two statements are a little 
> misleading. It shows both /dev/sd??.
> Last statement should have been syslinux /dev/sdd ; sync.
> 
> Still have one problem. I copied the .rom and .exe files for BIOS update to 
> /media/usbdisk (/dev/sdd1), but they do not show up after boothing from the 
> usb drive. If I look at it in Linux, it shows them. So, what is the secret?
> 
> Art
> 
> 
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[Freedos-user] Freedos on USB memor stick (partially solved)

[Art Fore]

Have been trying unsuccessfully for two days to get freedos on a cruzer
256 meg memory stick. Best procedure I found was
http://users.dslextreme.com/~craig.lawson/linux_notes/flashing_bios.html
but did not work in the last step 
syslinux /dev/sdd1 ; sync
syslinux: this doesn't look like a valid FAT filesystem

Why is this? How do I fix this?

Art

Gave it one last try and got it. The last two statements are a little 
misleading. It shows both /dev/sd??.
Last statement should have been syslinux /dev/sdd ; sync.

Still have one problem. I copied the .rom and .exe files for BIOS update to 
/media/usbdisk (/dev/sdd1), but they do not show up after boothing from the usb 
drive. If I look at it in Linux, it shows them. So, what is the secret?

Art


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[Freedos-user] Freedos on USB memor stick

[Art Fore]

Have been trying unsuccessfully for two days to get freedos on a cruzer
256 meg memory stick. Best procedure I found was
http://users.dslextreme.com/~craig.lawson/linux_notes/flashing_bios.html
but did not work in the last step 
syslinux /dev/sdd1 ; sync
syslinux: this doesn't look like a valid FAT filesystem

Why is this? How do I fix this?

Art


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