ig) and see if
> that works.
_NO_ -- just leave ConfigFvwmDefaults alone... please? I suspect what's
happening is that there's something in your ~/.fvwm/config doing something
weird -- such as StartFunction issuing some command, it's hard to say.
I'd wish I'd never mentioned ConfigFvwmDefaults...
-- Thomas Adam
--
"He wants you back, he screams into the night air, like a fireman going
through a window that has no fire." -- Mike Myers, "This Poem Sucks".
ccomplish this, but the above works for
> me.)
A little dated now, but see:
http://linuxgazette.net/100/adam.html
-- Thomas Adam
--
"He wants you back, he screams into the night air, like a fireman going
through a window that has no fire." -- Mike Myers, "This Poem Sucks".
evious
keybindings and then defines keys for that desk.
When you switch back to another desk, you'll then have to make sure
you do the same thing as above to restore them. Putting these in a
function is also the best thing to do.
-- Thomas Adam
On 02/08/07, Thomas Adam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 02/08/07, Jason Dobies <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > What I'm thinking is another set of key bindings that take effect on the
> > second desktop. The key mapping would be the same, but the executed
> >
sk 1, FVWM would see:
MapKeyBindings-1
FVWM then looks for this function to call. The reason why I'd
prefixed that with the Silent is because I didn't want to see any
error messages for the case where a specific desk, didn't have a
MapKeyBindings function defined, for example.
-- Thomas Adam
GNOME information relating to FVWM on the FvwmWiki
which you're welcome to add to [1]. If you're that obsessed by your config
you can also add it to the "screenshots and configs" section of the FVWM
Forums [2].
-- Thomas Adam
[1] http://fvwmwiki.bu-web.de/FrontPage
[2] http:
ly isn't a good solution. Instead, you're better
off assigning a function to the button which maximizes the window. If
that happens to be via a key binding, then you would need FvwmEvent.
Read:
http://linuxgazette.net/127/adam1.html
For a better understanding.
-- Thomas Adam
nMan (which is vastly superior to
FvwmTaskBar) and then in that FvwmButtons configuration just add a space, or
spaces for whatever else you want.
Look here for many examples of how to do this:
http://fvwm.lair.be/viewforum.php?f=39
-- Thomas Adam
--
"He wants you back, he screams into th
n desktop 0, xterm comes up in desktop
> 1 and user is automatically switched to desktop 1.
>
> xterm -xrm "*Desk:1"
>
> Is there a way to configure FVWM not to automatically switch desktops?
And I could have sworn I answered this on the forums. See the 'SkipMapp
own reply to you
should be evident that someone is listening.
> So, if someone knows something about the forum please let me know.
> Thanks in advance.
See above. And in advance, you're welcome.
-- Thomas Adam
ou're:
a) Asking.
b) What this mailing list is about.
I'm guessing you fall into both categories. :) This mailing list is for
discussions concerning the FVWM window manager, not about random Linux
problems.
-- Thomas Adam
--
"He wants you back, he screams into the night air, like
t to move a window to a different
> desktop and can't see how to do it.
Bind it to a key, such as:
Key 0 A CM Pick MoveToDesk 0
Key 1 A CM Pick MoveToDesk 1
etc...
-- Thomas Adam
t is simple, for example,
> it just show "firefox" or "Iceweasel", is there a way to do this?
>
> I have looked up the Style command, but i don't know which options to do
> this, please help me, thanks.
You could try and use xprop to set WM_NAME but the application will
just override it each time, AFAIK.
-- Thomas Adam
r would be provided by the key I
> press (meaning 0,1,2,3, etc.).
>
> Is there any way to do this?
Not easily. You're better off writing out the explicit cases.
-- Thomas Adam
n this
case, that process would be icewm.
> Also, and this is one thing I really can't figure out: why the heck
> are you sourcing your bashrc file from xinitrc???
So that the environemnt is inherited when the WM is launched.
-- Thomas Adam
--
"He wants you back, he screams into the night air, like a fireman going
through a window that has no fire." -- Mike Myers, "This Poem Sucks".
edundant to source that
> file from xinitrc. In my humble opinion.
You're assuming startx(1) is being used to read ~/.xinitrc -- that is by no
means always the case (c.f. that some people link ~/.xsession to ~/.xinitrc,
for instance.)
> --
> Jes?s Guerrero <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
&g
un level 5 (which
> tends to be the default nowadays) it won't even look at .initrc.
Umm, this depends entirely on the distribution. Debian, for instance
doesn't distinguish between what's started in runlevels 2->5 inclusive,
they're essentially all the same.
-- Thomas
On 02/10/2007, Chris G <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 01, 2007 at 10:21:20PM +0100, Thomas Adam wrote:
> > On Mon, Oct 01, 2007 at 10:10:18PM +0100, Chris G wrote:
> > > On Mon, Oct 01, 2007 at 10:47:19PM +0200, Jes?s Guerrero wrote:
> > > > On Mon, 1
#x27;
Without even looking, I suspect what's happening here is the call to
WindowListFunc (assuming it's the default function call) is warping
the pointer, this creating the FocusOut event as it leaves the other
window and enters into the current window.
Why are you even using FvwmCommand though, when PipeRead will suffice?
-- Thomas Adam
.x ) which works, but is
> not very recent with the keywords.
Yes, I do. I'll send it to you when I get home.
-- Thomas Adam
On 11/10/2007, Gautam Iyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 11, 2007 at 05:10:40PM +0100, Thomas Adam wrote:
>
> > > does any body have a good (pu-to-date) syntax highlighting
> > > configuration for VIM. The file that ships with version 7.x
> > > g
t to tread on your toes. Either way I don't care. I don't
mind taking over maintenance for this file at all. You can expect an
updated file over the weekend when I have time. Any further
correspondence shouldn't really be to this list, to be honest.
-- Thomas Adam
ager cell to display.
>
> Thanks
> Berthold
http://fvwm.lair.be/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=777&start=0&st=0&sk=t&sd=a&hilit=xinerama
-- Thomas Adam
--
"He wants you back, he screams into the night air, like a fireman going
through a window that has no fire." -- Mike Myers, "This Poem Sucks".
On 19 Oct 2007 14:04:40 -0500, Jason L Tibbitts III <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>>>> "TA" == Thomas Adam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> TA> I know. Again, as has been mentioned on the forums [2], *I* am
> TA> desperately trying to claw thi
e to point to [3] would be good. I thought I
had asked for this before, but maybe not.
-- Thomas Adam
[1] http://fvwm.lair.be/viewforum.php?f=39
[2] http://fvwm.lair.be
[3] http://fvwmwiki.bu-web.de/
ar) WindowShade on
(or see 'StartShaded' style condition in 2.5.23).
> Am I missing something, or is there something that I can add to a
> function to make this happen?
See above. It waits around for the window to appear.
-- Thomas Adam
d idea. There are a number of modules
(FvwmPager, FvwmTaskBar, etc.) which use "UseSkipList". You would have to
change those as well, breaking the commonality which has already been
established.
-- Thomas Adam
--
"He wants you back, he screams into the night air, like a fireman go
my clock and my system monitor; instead they tend to go to the
> upper-left corner, which is where I put my FvwmButtons panel.
Look at the IconBox style command, along with IconFill and optionally
IconGrid. Then apply it to specific window classes:
Style Emacs IconBox XxY, IconFill l r
For instance.
-- Thomas Adam
x27;d also ask you -why- you don't just forget this approach and use:
Style minnie StartsOnPage 0 0 1
Or something similar. if you ever decided to change minnie to another
terminal emulator, then not all of them honour the -xrm hints.
-- Thomas Adam
d of remembering how it was last resized.
This is a different issue to initial placement though. (The point
being that you can shunt the window wherever you like, it's likely to
retain its own size because obviously EWMH apps are far superior than
already-established conventions. :P)
-- Thomas Adam
Hello --
On 08/11/2007, Paul Novak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 08, 2007 at 12:34:48PM +0000, Thomas Adam wrote:
> > >
> > > in my config file and I want to start an exterm on desk 0, page 0 0
> > > and another on desk 0, page 0 1. In my InitFun
t assign different styles to them.
>
> If there isn't such possibility, will be it implemented in future?
It's not possible to match *both* for the same style, no. There is a
branch in CVS which breaks existing compatibility to try and do this
though.
-- Thomas Adam
Hi --
On 08/11/2007, Dan Espen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> "Thomas Adam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > On 08/11/2007, Anton Kazennikov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Hello all!
> > >
> > > Is there any possibility to matc
Hello --
On 09/11/2007, Cameron Simpson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 08Nov2007 20:43, Thomas Adam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> | On 08/11/2007, Dan Espen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> | > If the windows have 2 different class values, Fvwm should be able to matc
> which feels cumbersome. Can I test this stuff inside FVWM?
This is the -correct- (and portable) method, since FVWM has no concept
of arithmetic comparison. There's a patch floating around to make the
comparison within FVWM.
-- Thomas Adam
). I hope one of
> those explanations was clear: I'd be happy to send a screenshot to
> anyone who thinks they can diagnose by that.
It's in the FAQ, of course. Tell FVWM to ignore resize increments.
Style * ResizeHintOverride
-- Thomas Adam
elpful in answering
> this question?
That's what it does by default, so what's the problem?
-- Thomas Adam
uch as they do the fvwm-workers
mailing list. That is where even this email should have been sent to.
-- Thomas Adam
oesn't wait for the command to complete. So what
> > is probably happening is that you are starting to run SelectWindow.sh
> > before you finish writing to wlist.txt
>
> Right, and one solution is to use Piperead instead of Exec.
http://fvwmwiki.bu-web.de/FunctionSynchronisation
-- Thomas Adam
ing
into it more, it seems one can change the *class* of the window
(that's the more important one, since the name will constantly change
in the browser) via an XML file.
-- Thomas Adam
#v-
>
> Unfortunately, this method causes an unacceptable effect that transient
> window is created without all decorations and after some delay (like
> half a second) decorations appears.
>
> Is there any better way of achieving my goal?
At the moment, no.
-- Thomas Adam
You
instead just need to amalgamate that into your StartFunction via a
series of:
+ I Test (init) DoSomething
-- Thomas Adam
work. I'm using FVWM 2.5.21.
> Any ideas?
Since "<" is a special case for a frame, you should ensure that the
order is thus:
Mouse 1 F A ...
Mouse 1 < A Delete
(i.e., for anything using "F" as a context comes before the specific
case of applying a specific corner.)
-- Thomas Adam
nts and have no idea, thank for any help.
You want something like this:
DestroyFunc WindowListFunc
AddToFunc WindowListFunc
+ I Next (AcceptsFocus) Focus
There's *many* things you can do with this, such as adding in other
conditional checks, etc.
-- Thomas Adam
On 05/02/2008, for.register for.register <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Adam,
Adam is my surname. Thomas is my forename. Call me Thomas.
-- Thomas Adam
> >
> > Mouse 4 R N GotoPage $[page.nx+1] 0
>
> Mmm, first thing is that fvwm doesn't understand arithmetic expresions.
> The next one is that that 4 stands for mouse scroll up, not mod4, and the N
> means "no modifiers", so, using mod4 will automatically negate the binding.
But Goto{Page,Desk} has a wrapx and wrapy options for just this. No
need for arithmetic.
-- Thomas Adam
ing don't work
>
> Style gmplayer !Title, !Borders
> Style conky !Title, !Borders
> Style Feh !Title, !Borders
>
> so, my question is how to find the exact name in the above config?
Use xprop to find the class, which generally works well.
-- Thomas Adam
gs when I want to use Alt+mouse3(hold)
> to movesize of the current window directly?
Use a function:
DestroyFunc Foo
AddToFunc Foo
+ H Resize
+ M SomethingElse
Mouse 3 W M Foo
-- Thomas Adam
NeverFocus, \
> WindowListSkip, \
> CirculateSkip, StartsOnPage 0 0, Forecolor Colorset 3
Look at xdaliclock instead, or cheat and use FvwmScript.
-- Thomas Adam
sk too!!
>
> If I move then the window, the window returns to
> actual desk...
>
> Some ideas?
Can you show us the relevant parts of the config which does this, and
perhaps explain things a little clearer?
-- Thomas Adam
ssing this is due to some eventual style line in your config
matching the window name of Firefox? Remember that the window name
changes as you browse through tabs in Firefox.
-- Thomas Adam
On 27/03/2008, Eben King <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Thu, 27 Mar 2008, Thomas Adam wrote:
> > Next (Firefox-bin) MoveToPage
>
> Thanks. What kind of a statement is that, something that I'd feed to
> FvwmTalk? How would I specify _which_ Firefox-bin window
s and years ago, and so I've even forgotten how fvwm1
> works!)
I will convert your .fvwmrc file to something which works on FVWM 2.5.26 --
and that's final. I am not going to bugger about on 2.4.20 setting up
FvwmTheme, etc. You really do want FVWM 2.5.26 -- since you're on one of the
*BSDs that's a shame, but I will let you figure out how to install that. :)
I will send you an email later after work with a modified file.
-- Thomas Adam
are wrong - you should be using ImagePath here, and even
then those two locations are part of the default ImagePath anyway
(c.f.: fvwm-config -I).
-- Thomas Adam
On Wed, 6 Aug 2008 09:53:29 -0700 (PDT)
"John Meissen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Thomas Adam said:
> > 2008/8/6 Robert Heller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> >> I use the FvwmIconBox, so I have these lines in my .fvwmrc file:
> >
> > That'
e and save it as:
~/.fvwm/config
Remember you'll need FVWM 2.5.26 as stated earlier.
Enjoy.
-- Thomas Adam
2008/8/10 Thomas Adam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> http://edulinux.homeunix.org/~n6tadam/fvwm2rc-ronald
So I am curious to know if this is OK -- or not. Some feedback from
you, Ronald, if not from common courtesy would be the least you could
do.
-- Thomas Adam
at's sent to this
list. I suggest you fix this, since it's going to hinder you a lot.
-- Thomas Adam
get ideas -- that has many FvwmButtons
configurations, one of which might come close to IceWM; I couldn't
tell you that.
-- Thomas Adam
[1] http://fvwm-themes.sf.net
hing happens with Firefox from time to time. I don't see
how this is a FVWM issue though -- mostly it happens with odd clients.
-- Thomas Adam
this is right -- hopefully
someone will correct me on this if not!)
This is what I can tell from looking at the code anyway -- try it, see
if it works. I do wonder though why you're seeing it with XTerm ---
that's certainly not my case. Alas, from looking at Voss' FVWM
config, nothing he has defined there is likely going to help you.
-- Thomas Adam
FVWM will have already done its job by that point.
I'm out of ideas. Sorry.
-- Thomas Adam
xterm only, or if any
application obscuring xterm causes the effect?
-- Thomas Adam
2009/1/29 Jeff Jibson :
> I noticed the FVWM forums had lost everthing on Jan 22. It could have
> happened before that but not a long time before. They haven't moved
> somewhere else have they?
No, I've just broke them, and am unsure what I've done.
-- Thomas Adam
it, I am willing to spend some time
> helping.
Thanks, but there's not a lot you can do.
What was it you were wanting from them, out of interest?
-- Thomas Adam
ify".
You can use them interchangably to describe the action (since everyone
knows what you mean). The term iconify is most likely taken from
XIconifyWindow(). :)
-- Thomas Adam
2009/1/29 Thomas Adam :
> 2009/1/29 Jeff Jibson :
>> I noticed the FVWM forums had lost everthing on Jan 22. It could have
>> happened before that but not a long time before. They haven't moved
>> somewhere else have they?
>
> No, I've just broke them, and
displays.
>
> Right now fvwm uses the same .fvwm2rc config file for both displays but
> I'm wondering if there is a way to get it to use a different config for my
> second display?
Something like:
fvwm -s num1 -f /path/to/config1 &
fvwm -s num2 -f /path/to/config2 &
-- Thomas Adam
ho can say? Note though that just
because something hasn't been updated, doesn't mean to say it's out of
date, it just means there might not be anything more relevant to add.
-- Thomas Adam
windows which were focused? Does FVWM
See FlipFocus, which will reorder the window ring and provide this
functionality for you.
-- Thomas Adam
t; Maybe I am using some options in my Config which I shouldn't?
It's been a known problem for FvwmTaskBar for years -- no one's fixed
it since many people use FvwmIconMan, which is a much better solution
to this -- including swallowing it in FvwmButtons.
One day, I hope to see FvwmTa
he 4 or so years that I've used fvwm,
What is it you're asking though? Can you give an actual example of
what you're trying to do here, and perhaps provide your FVWM config?
The fact that you're inclined to make up syntax without even doing any
form of obvious research worries
lot of
people off (myself one of them) if you don't.
-- Thomas Adam
--
"It was the cruelest game I've ever played and it's played inside my
head." -- "Hush The Warmth", Gorky's Zygotic Mynci.
ction refused
>
> Apache/1.3.33 Server at fvwmwiki.bu-web.de Port 80
I'm in the process of upgrading its version of MoinMoin. Watch this
space. What was it you wanted from it anyway?
-- Thomas Adam
No, as I said the last *two* times in other threads with the same
subject on this issue, I am *working* on it, but it's not
straight-forward and finding the time is ad-hoc.
-- Thomas Adam
te, put each value of the EwmhBaseStruts
options into the environment via SetEnv.
-- Thomas Adam
here *as well*, that seems odd.
Did you get bored with XMonad then?
-- Thomas Adam
do --- it's just not obvious. If
you'd care to give a more detailed example, I can show you how it can
be done with FvwmRearrange too.
-- Thomas Adam
2009/7/7 Kathryn Andersen :
> On Tue, Jul 07, 2009 at 09:37:11PM +0100, Thomas Adam wrote:
>> 2009/7/7 Kathryn Andersen :
>> > And, yes, I am aware of FvwmRearrange, but it doesn't do what I want;
>> > I want to be able to say "give me a two-column layout&quo
t; worry about FvwmRearrange, especially as you are busy.
I'm not the be-all-and-end-all.
-- Thomas Adam
ns and just works with
what its been told.
(BTW --- an updated "examples" section in its manpage wouldn't go
amiss -- as per the recent Debian bug, it seems people are eager to
try this module, but misunderstand what it can do. Jason, you wrote
it, how about an explanation as to how *you* use it? :))
-- Thomas Adam
ff the top of my head
include buggering about with "ModulePath" within your config, but I am
only guessing there as I've not seen what you've done to your config.
Oh -- and as a nod to system management, please don't go editing
/etc/X11/fvwm/system.fvwm2rc directly -- it's generally a good idea to
do all of this on a per-user basis.
-- Thomas Adam
the identity tab, all looks exactly the same
> as when I'm not docked, but the locations of the xterm screens are all moved.
>
> Any advice on how to fix this would be most appreciated!
Is this xrandr related? Just restart FVWM.
-- Thomas Adam
clear at all what actions you're
doing to think things have changed when you paradoxically say they're
also the same.
-- Thomas Adam
or a
given window, it would get annoying if one of the commands you were
running which was meant to spawn a window didn't -- or it had a
different name as it transitioned from the time it was mapped to the
point the correct XAtom of the client was consulted to match the given
string used with "Wait" for example, but I digress.
You originally mentioned wanting this "login" window to survive the
window manager. Why not cheat?
DestroyFunc ExitFunction
AddToFunc ExitFunction
+ I Test (Quit) Restart xterm -T login
I'm done now.
-- Thomas Adam
[1] I keep referring to ~/.fvwm2rc or ~/.fvwm/config -- they're the
same thing -- some user's FVWM config file. I am just an old enough
user of FVWM to still recall it as ~/.fvwm2rc.
KDE.
> Klipper runs outside of the FVWM tree above as do the Eterms, possably
> because it is a KDE program, but then why does 'krusader' list on the
> tree?
Because KDE's a bloated pile of shit which pulls in half of KDE to use
one feature? (c.f. GNOME.)
-- Thomas Adam
problems. They're both GTK applications,
which means they're always going to be a royal PITA. Try setting:
Style * !UsePPosition
(Which is applicable to FVWM 2.5.X, if you want that for FVWM 2.4.X,
use: "NoPPosition")
If you don't know what that does, go look it up.
-- Thomas Adam
also provide the set-up i'm after.
So use a container (see "man fvwmbuttons", or use two FvwmButtons instances.
-- Thomas Adam
On Tue, Oct 06, 2009 at 06:50:12PM -0400, J wrote:
> On 2009-10-06 (Tue) 19:59:26 [+0100], Thomas Adam wrote:
> > 2009/10/6 Jamie Griffin :
> > > Hello
> > >
> > > I'm using fvwm 2.4.20 on OpenBSD 4.5.
> >
> > Please compile up FVWM 2.5.2
How is it done?
No, this is not possible at the moment. FVWM needs xrandr support,
it's on our TODO list, along with several other things.
Have you verified this screen scrolling problem using something like
openbox or some other window manager? I suspect you need to define an
xorg.conf file and mess around with the settings in there.
-- Thomas Adam
a window on the right screen, it jumps to the
> left screen (maybe caused by a workspace shift?).
You wouldn't get the wraparound by default from one monitor to the
other like you're describing. I've seen this effect before where X
doesn't realise that Monitor1 is right/lef
than enough time in
the past "porting" your config to FVWM 2.5.X, you can count me out
immediately with any further diagnosis into this.
Remind me again why FVWM 2.5.X can't be used?
-- Thomas Adam
lways the same, i.e., +0-0, no matter what I set
> Geometry to.
What version of FVWM are you running? What does your entire config
look like (not just your FvwmTaskBar configuration.)
-- Thomas Adam
> What an I doing wrong, and how can I fix this?
Firefox doesn't accept synthetic XEvents, clearly. Nothing FVWM can do
about this. I would imagine the Firefox guys consider it a security feature
not to do so.
-- Thomas Adam
--
"It was the cruelest game I've ever played and it's played inside my head."
-- "Hush The Warmth", Gorky's Zygotic Mynci.
ccurs in 2.4.20 and 2.5.27.
I've just pushed what I think should fix this to CVS. Please give it a try.
-- Thomas Adam
--
"It was the cruelest game I've ever played and it's played inside my head."
-- "Hush The Warmth", Gorky's Zygotic Mynci.
nager to handle the
windows, it's pretty much an open playing-field.
-- Thomas Adam
--
"It was the cruelest game I've ever played and it's played inside my head."
-- "Hush The Warmth", Gorky's Zygotic Mynci.
all? Maybe I'm just stupid, but I don't
> even recall getting xcompmgr to work.
Unlikely -- and xcompmgr isn't rocket science. You start it with whatever
options you want, and install transset-df to do the actual transparent
operations.
Don't ask me for any futher detai
State.
> Is there any specific reason for this failure? and
> How to resolve it?.
Eh? Can you be more specific?
-- Thomas Adam
--
"It was the cruelest game I've ever played and it's played inside my head."
-- "Hush The Warmth", Gorky's Zygotic Mynci.
#x27;ve ever seen.
But I'll humour you -- put your .fvwm2rc somewhere, I'll try and
replicate it if I can.
-- Thomas Adam
x27;gq}' in vim to the rescue, your MUA/editor is still not
wrapping your lines. Please fix this.)
-- Thomas Adam
--
"It was the cruelest game I've ever played and it's played inside my head."
-- "Hush The Warmth", Gorky's Zygotic Mynci.
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