10.4.11 Internet Connect and Network Prefpane corrupted?
Powerbook G4 Aluminum 1.25 ghz running 10.4.11. This is my back up computer whilst my MacBook Pro is being repaired. I'm 600 miles from my install disks. The presenting problem is when I launch System Preferences and then Network(network.prefpane) immediately upon the window opening I get an alert window stating that another application has changed your settings I dismiss the alert and it immediately reappears--over and over and over. I can't edit the configurations. If anyone has an immediate answer jump on in --especially if I need to look at or disable another file. Otherwise here is what I've done and at the bottom is what I think I need. Right after the last security update or directory rebuild(?) my Internet Connect.app went generic icon and no longer launched. I substituted Internet Connect version 1.4.3 in a previous system quarentine folder. It launched and works: I can access the net but not change settings. I also tried to replace the network.prefpane from 10.5 but no improvement. I am on the road and only have my 10.5 disks. I don't know how to verify the versions I should have under 10.4.11 The verisons I have now Internet Connect 1.4.3 Network.prefpane 1.7 Can someone verify what version I should have for these files for 10.4: Applications/ Internet Connect and System/Library/Preferencepanes/ Network.prefpane. If I don't have the correct ones ,any kind soul willing to upload them to me via email? I am on digest mode so including my email will speed things up. Thanks in advance! Eman --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
RE: Where do I learn.... becomes archiving files and images- the future
I agree but use an archival storage box, acid free I shoot mostly 35mm and 120 film and use the digital for stuff that doesn't matter. I recently lost my wife and I am glad that my photos of her are mostly archived. I display copies that were digitized but the photos themselves are kept safe along with the negatives. Kirk He who has honor need not fear death. Eva Marie LeGrand Morrison 5/24/1958-6/26/2008 My beloved wife, and my best friend, I miss you Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2009 23:25:18 -0800 Subject: Re: Where do I learn becomes archiving files and images- the future From: tba...@nmia.com To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Well, for the ultimate in archivalness (is that a word?), to preserve things for future generations of your family, do what I plan to do: get rid of both magnetic and optical storage. Back to basics here. Sure, we all shoot digital now, but we don't have to store that way. Print out your most important digital images at high resolution on archival paper, using long-lasting pigmented inks, and then keep these prints in an album, dry, clean, and out of light, except when you look at them. They ought to last a generation or two that way (Epson says 200 years, at least). And then, to really save them for the ages, use a copy stand to shoot those prints with a camera that uses film, and the best film for the purpose is black and white. The black and white negatives will last practically forever, and any silver-based prints made from them (in an old-fashioned chemical darkroom, like I have) would last as long as the paper, which can also be centuries. In other words, get your important pictures out of the electronic devices altogether, and back into the shoebox, alongside Grandma's. All the future generations have to do then is pick them up and hold them in their hand, and look at them. Eyeballs never become obsolete. _ It’s the same Hotmail®. If by “same” you mean up to 70% faster. http://windowslive.com/online/hotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_hotmail_acq_broad1_122008 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Help: My New 23 ACD fails to turn on!
I bought a beautiful 23 ACD (an older acrylic model) on Ebay and it arrived today. IT DOESNT WORK! I bought it AS-IS, so just looking for tips. The auction said that it was untested because they didn't have the correct computer to test it (IE one with a GeForce MX2 or better), so i took a chance. I don't have too much money invested in this (i bought it on christmas so nobody was online) so i won't be dissappointed if i have to resell or repair. If you have any tips as to what could be the problem with this, drop me a line. Details: When i plug it in to my MX2, and start my computer, it starts. When i use Remote desktop from my MacBook, it reports a VGA display at 800x600. When i disconnect and reconnect while started, the computer sleeps, and then i can wake it up. It looks so good on my desk, so i would hate to see it go. Scott Vanderlind Petaluma, CA 94952 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: iPod migration, new computer
Expecting the new iMac soon, I've searched the kb and not found the answer. Should I be expecting to have to reset/erase the iPod to the new iTunes or does migration assistant allow the iPod to be used on the new computer without reset/erase? No need to erase your iPod. I'm on my fourth Mac with my 2G iPod, with no resets. Migration Assistant should move your iTunes library with no problem, or you can copy from your iPod. Bob --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: iPod migration, new computer
At 8:45 AM -0500 1/6/09, Bob Whiton posted: Expecting the new iMac soon, I've searched the kb and not found the answer. Should I be expecting to have to reset/erase the iPod to the new iTunes or does migration assistant allow the iPod to be used on the new computer without reset/erase? No need to erase your iPod. I'm on my fourth Mac with my 2G iPod, with no resets. Migration Assistant should move your iTunes library with no problem, or you can copy from your iPod. Thanks. Steve R --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: New 500G Firewire HD - folders or partitions?
On Jan 6, 2009, at 4:10 AM, g3-5-list group wrote: == 2 of 2 == Date: Mon, Jan 5 2009 9:08 pm From: Charles Davis You do need to be aware that the simplest questions, posed here, can generate excessive amounts of only possibly useful information. ;-) Chuck D. [On being aware!!, it's probably obvious by now!!!] On Jan 5, 2009, at 11:59 PM, D Stubbs wrote: Whew, I am a bit speechless. I am going to read all these responses 4 more times.After I have slept on the first round. I am learning another new language, French, I think it's easier. 'Partition 101' indeed! thanks, Del I archived this thread. It is very useful to me, answering questions I was getting ready to ask. Thank you, Charles, Dan, two Bills, Len, and others. Al Poulin --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Where do I learn.... becomes archiving files and images- the future
At 10:34 PM -0500 1/5/2009, insightinmind wrote: On Jan 5, 2009, at 10:20 PM, Dan wrote: From a pro perspective image quality of a TIFF is not good enough, RAW is much better. Never heard that before. In what way is TIFF lacking? I've always heard if you convert an image from one format into another, you probably lose something (loosely (not lossless) speaking). That's true to a point. Isn't RAW a first format for some cameras, so TIFF would be a first conversion? Is that where people might suspect loss of quality? The camera takes the CCD data, adjusts it, and converts it to ... something that the user can download. Whatever format you select in the camera is what it converts it to - RAW, TIFF, JPG, etc. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Address Book import
On Jan 5, 2009, at 6:58 PM, George Hozendorf wrote: Could some one tell me an easy way to import Last Name, First Name and eMail address info from Excel into the Address Book Application? Save it as a text file, comma or tab separated. Select Import Text File in Address Book. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Where do I learn.... becomes archiving files and images- the future
On Jan 5, 2009, at 10:20 PM, Dan wrote: At 5:42 PM -0500 1/5/2009, Sam Macomber wrote: On Jan 5, 2009, at 5:12 PM, Dan wrote: At 1:55 PM -0800 1/5/2009, MIKO .. wrote: The photo industry believes that the highest quality version of an image is its RAW version, when available. Each company has its own variant of RAW. There will be no standard any time soon. TIFF is better. From a pro perspective image quality of a TIFF is not good enough, RAW is much better. Never heard that before. In what way is TIFF lacking? RAW format is all the information captured by the camera's sensor in an unaltered state(though sometimes lossless compression is used, depends on the camera). To generate a TIFF that sensor data has to be altered and when you do so information is lost. At this point with newer systems they're generally all supported by Photoshop CameraRAW and can be converted to DNG. i feel that's reasonably safe since I'm seeling the useful life right around 10 years for an image, DNG still bothers me a bit. It's an Adobe format, a container for their particular variant of RAW, based on TIFF. I don't trust Adobe much. Part of the reason we have not yet started to convert to DNG, I love the format but you are right all the eggs in one basket. of course we're still tied to the camera maker's format by not converting to DNG...What I'd love to see is something like DNG but totally open for any company to use, I feel it is leaning that way, but slowly. Hassleblad digital backs support DNG and Sinar is working in that direction as well... or so they say. Leaf(now owned by Kodak) works with adobe to keep their digital back compatible with CameraRAW But yeah, this is a problem and a fairly big one... --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Where do I learn about long lasting cdr's or dvdr's ????
On Jan 5, 2009, at 5:40 PM, MIKO .. wrote: On Jan 5, 2009, at 4:13 PM, Stanton Mitrany wrote: How about storing our archival digital disks in a hermetically sealed container, flushed with nitrogen or carbon dioxide (easy to obtain, even from a flake of dry ice, dropped into the storage container just before sealing it)? That way, there should be little or no oxyge, and little or no oxidation of the burned pits, and therefore no degradation of the data. Just an idea . . . LOL. Hardly. flushing with nitrogen is a common technique for easily oxidized chemicals from aerospace components to food. When my wife and I did a winery tour this summer all the places were flushing the tasting bottles with nitrogen in between pours. In fact you can buy wine cabinets that have a nitrogen flush built in. (Neat little appellation...Rattlesnake Hills, near Yakima, Washington. We recommend the Bonair http://www.bonairwine.com/ and Paradisios del Sol Wineries http://www.paradisosdelsol.com/ good wines, friendly people.) This is actually an eminently sensible idea. A box like this http://www.otterbox.com/waterproof-cases/otterbox-3510-foam/ with a couple of silica gel packs and flushed with N2 every year or so would make an excellent archival storage container for both digital and analog film... Perhaps, also, a hyperbaric chamber will help. Actually a hyperbaric chamber will increase the rate of degradation. Hyper == greater baric == pressure. A hypobaric chamber, or storing them under reduced pressure will also be a poor idea as that will lead to outgassing of the plastics used for the tape or disks. And the storage room should be lined with lead in case we get attacked with a superstrong electromagnetic pulse (EMP)... :) any metal box that is grounded will form a faraday cage that mitigates the effects of an EMP. Pop a CD into a microwave sometime. That's what an EMP will do to one. All this said, what they want is that their great grandchildren be able to see great-grampa's baby pictures...not survive a nuclear war. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: I am thinking about a processor upgrade for my G4/400 AGP
Thanks to all of you for responding! Lots of differing views. After searching Ebay I have concluded that I would probably be better off buying a used G5. Although I love my G4! I have never turned this computer off since I bought it new in 1999 (except for moving twice) and it still runs flawlessly... it's just slow as christmas with the newer software (OSX 10.4). I can't bear to retire this thing just yet. Guess I'll just save it for my son (due March 7th) I guess this g4 will make a great starter computer for the boy. Anyway... thanks again! -=] RiverMan [=- --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Up from an eMac 700
Yours is the second post about those mini's... I have never heard of a mini.. but I guess I'll google it.. Thanks, -=] RiverMan [=- On Jan 6, 11:23 am, Jeff Bequette jbeque...@tconl.com wrote: Jeff Bequette jbeque...@tconl.com On Jan 5, 2009, at 3:12 PM, Sam Macomber wrote: On Jan 5, 2009, at 2:53 PM, Mel wrote: snip If I did a lot of writing, an older mac is the best. WriteNow and a powerbook 180(best screen of the 1xx series IMO) spin down the HDD and type away! I'm looking to upgrade my self. current is an eMac 700 which is great for most usage surfing, email, quicken, and what have you. It gets a bit sluggish when my wife is doing the bills (quicken and web going at the same time), playing music as she does it, while I watch a video off it streaming to the AppleTV. It gets just a smidge unhappy. Plus, USB 1.1 and the small screen with a slow refresh, killing my eyeballs... We've been taking about getting a new computer for a while as we just want one computer in the house... right now I'm debating between dredging up the leftover parts at work to build a G4 tower and get a 1.8GHz processor upgrade, USB2 card, some new big HDDs (pair of 500s should do it) nice 24 screen. we'd be hitting around $800, it'd be better than what we've got, but still several generations old. Or we get a new iMac $1500ish is a bit of a pill to swallow, but we got 6 years out of our emac and I see no reason why a new iMac would be any different.. Tough one... on the BTW, I drive a 1985 VW Quantum wagon in the winter, come summer I drive a 1974 VW Karmann Ghia convertible, well on sunny days, so 500-1000mi/yr... wife has a 2003 VW Passat wagon, got kids, need a safe reliable car :) I also have a 1985 Renault Fuego, mint condition and very reliable. Selling that one though I can't bring my self to use it as a winter car (not a speck of rust on it) and I prefer my Ghia in the summer :) Oh and my wife hates it heh! Mel, yup those IIci are the best, as i recall you bought most of mine from me some years back. I still have one tucked away with my old plus and all the parts and software i need for it, got a daystar turbo 601/66 in it. -sam If you have access to a 24 in screen, then I take a look at the mini's lottsa powere-itty bitty box. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re:MacMini
Jeff Bequette jbeque...@tconl.com Lookee here http://www.apple.com/macmini/ On Jan 6, 2009, at 11:30 AM, RiverMan wrote: Yours is the second post about those mini's... I have never heard of a mini.. but I guess I'll google it.. T --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Up from an eMac 700
On Jan 5, 2009, at 3:12 PM, Sam Macomber wrote: On Jan 5, 2009, at 2:53 PM, Mel wrote: snip If I did a lot of writing, an older mac is the best. WriteNow and a powerbook 180(best screen of the 1xx series IMO) spin down the HDD and type away! I'm looking to upgrade my self. current is an eMac 700 which is great for most usage surfing, email, quicken, and what have you. It gets a bit sluggish when my wife is doing the bills(quicken and web going at the same time), playing music as she does it, while I watch a video off it streaming to the AppleTV. It gets just a smidge unhappy. Plus, USB 1.1 and the small screen with a slow refresh, killing my eyeballs... We've been taking about getting a new computer for a while as we just want one computer in the house... right now I'm debating between dredging up the leftover parts at work to build a G4 tower and get a 1.8GHz processor upgrade, USB2 card, some new big HDDs(pair of 500s should do it) nice 24 screen. we'd be hitting around $800, it'd be better than what we've got, but still several generations old. Or we get a new iMac $1500ish is a bit of a pill to swallow, but we got 6 years out of our emac and I see no reason why a new iMac would be any different.. Tough one... on the BTW, I drive a 1985 VW Quantum wagon in the winter, come summer I drive a 1974 VW Karmann Ghia convertible, well on sunny days, so 500-1000mi/yr... wife has a 2003 VW Passat wagon, got kids, need a safe reliable car :) I also have a 1985 Renault Fuego, mint condition and very reliable. Selling that one though I can't bring my self to use it as a winter car (not a speck of rust on it) and I prefer my Ghia in the summer :)Oh and my wife hates it heh! Mel, yup those IIci are the best, as i recall you bought most of mine from me some years back. I still have one tucked away with my old plus and all the parts and software i need for it, got a daystar turbo 601/66 in it. -sam If you have access to a 24 in screen, then I take a look at the mini's lottsa powere-itty bitty box. that's just it, I don't have a screen I'd be buying one if I went with the G4 tower. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: External DVD RW play dvds in osx??
On Jan 6, 2009, at 2:30 AM, Kris Tilford wrote: My best guess is that under whatever version of OS X you're using(?) you need to install Patchburn to get the DVD player recognized by the Apple applications. The fact that VLC and mPlayer aren't working is more problematic because they shouldn't require Patchburn, so perhaps there are other issues? Does the DVD/RW model(?) have the latest firmware for it? Look in System Profiler for Revision: to get the firmware version. Patchburn for your particular OS X, takes care of the external drive recognition. This might be more than you're willing to ingest, but I thought I'd share it just the same. In my PCI Graphics G4 Yikes!, I only had an internal CD RW, and wanted to playback DVD files from my harddrive, and as you discovered, you cannot open DVD Player unless it finds an internal DVD R or R/W ... so I went through the process of hacking the DVDPlayback file as follows (I'm looking for the original www link, but can't find it off hand). I later found it more efficient, to simply install a DVD RW, and didn't need this hack: I hacked the DVDPlayback file using CoryM's suggestions for 10.4.10, but it seems to work under 10.4.11. The first numbers needing replacement, may be offset by 1 ... (I'm not real adept at counting in Hex) ... Suggested for 10.4.10: /System/Library/Frameworks/DVDPlayback.framework/Versions/A/DVDPlayback and the changes are: Offset 674A8: 4082 0020 80A1 0040 3860 7CA4 F430 to 4082 0020 38A0 3860 7CA4 F430 Offset 9E2C8: 4E80 0020 7C48 02A6 429F 0005 BE01 FFC0 7FE8 02A6 to 4E80 0020 3860 4E80 0020 BE01 FFC0 7FE8 02A6 I used Hex Fiend: http://ridiculousfish.com/hexfiend/ as my Hex Editor (Fiendishly fast). Did have to realize the Hex address in the left column was always the 0th location, then I had to count 1, 2, 3, ..., A, B, C ... etc to the right to find numbers like 674A8 (that's about 8 over from 674A0). Changing the Permissions for the .../A folder and DVDPlayback files using Get Info was essential, as was having a backup copy of DVDPlayback (all work done on the Desktop). When it was time to replace the DVDPlayback file, I found it convenient to move the one in the A folder to the Trash, then copy the modified one into the A folder, and then returning Permissions back to the system for both the A folder and DVDPlayback file. A Restart made the new DVDPlayback file active, and I could then also empty the Trash. Now if I could just turn off Deinterlacing, DVD Player might be smoother ... (I'm also on a PowerPC 8500 - Sonnet G4/450 CPU, internal SCSI CDRW (only) with Xpostfacto Tiger 10.4.11, CCCed from a hacked eMac CD Tiger Installation to an external Firewire HD, compliments of a Quicksilver 2002 Dual 1GHz). Bill Connelly artsite: http://mysite.verizon.net/moonstoneartstudio myspace: http://www.myspace.com/moonstoneartstudio --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Where do I learn.... becomes archiving files and images- the future
At 11:35 AM -0500 1/6/2009, Sam Macomber wrote: On Jan 5, 2009, at 10:20 PM, Dan wrote: At 5:42 PM -0500 1/5/2009, Sam Macomber wrote: From a pro perspective image quality of a TIFF is not good enough, RAW is much better. Never heard that before. In what way is TIFF lacking? RAW format is all the information captured by the camera's sensor in an unaltered state(though sometimes lossless compression is used, depends on the camera). To generate a TIFF that sensor data has to be altered and when you do so information is lost. Ok. Been reading up on raw... It's interesting,,, and complicated. The direct CCD data (raw) is unusable unless you have a profile containing the necessary metrics, regarding that particular camera's ccd performance. Said profile is sometimes included in the metadata buried within the raw file, but not always. IOW, iffa you no gots that profile, the raw data is all but useless. My take: Like color profiles for printers and displays, this is a nightmare waiting to happen. We're going to have to have libraries of thousands of these profiles - just to hope to be able to handle a random raw image. The advantage of the raw data is that it hasn't had its range clipped yet; its still up to 14 bits per pixel (jpeg clips to 8 bits after gamma correction). That's good - if you can process it correctly. Bad - if you cannot process it fully - it leaves you with extra white noise. Most RAW file formats (note the caps now) are undocumented (trying to not say proprietary) extensions of TIFF 6.0. (DNG is also an extension to TIFF 6.0). ...This is kindof like what people are doing to MPEG-4, to create things like DivX and Xvid. LOL - a gotcha to be aware of - many cameras use a *lossy* compression on RAW by default. I'd venture anyone serious about wanting RAW needs to turn that off! In four diff places, I've now read comments to the affect that because RAW is a non-standard, it is NOT appropriate for long-term / archival storage use. They recommend TIFF or JPEG with a lossless or zero compression. I can see why RAW is good for a professional photographer's use in the short term. But all the above, taken together, makes me think this is a format that's not useful for archival / long-term use. For said archive, I guess it can't hurt to keep the RAW file, and the profile, as long as you *also* do a TIFF or something. At this point with newer systems they're generally all supported by Photoshop CameraRAW and can be converted to DNG. i feel that's reasonably safe since I'm seeling the useful life right around 10 years for an image, DNG still bothers me a bit. It's an Adobe format, a container for their particular variant of RAW, based on TIFF. I don't trust Adobe much. Part of the reason we have not yet started to convert to DNG, I love the format but you are right all the eggs in one basket. heh. Just ran across some old PDF files that I cannot seem to open anymore. Preview gives an empty window. Adobe Reader crashes. Tried full Acrobat on XP - it blue screens. That's a good example of how Adobe formats work - even the open ones. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Where do I learn.... becomes archiving files and images- the future
On Jan 6, 2009, at 12:42 PM, Dan wrote: At 11:35 AM -0500 1/6/2009, Sam Macomber wrote: On Jan 5, 2009, at 10:20 PM, Dan wrote: At 5:42 PM -0500 1/5/2009, Sam Macomber wrote: From a pro perspective image quality of a TIFF is not good enough, RAW is much better. Never heard that before. In what way is TIFF lacking? RAW format is all the information captured by the camera's sensor in an unaltered state(though sometimes lossless compression is used, depends on the camera). To generate a TIFF that sensor data has to be altered and when you do so information is lost. Ok. Been reading up on raw... It's interesting,,, and complicated. The direct CCD data (raw) is unusable unless you have a profile containing the necessary metrics, regarding that particular camera's ccd performance. Said profile is sometimes included in the metadata buried within the raw file, but not always. IOW, iffa you no gots that profile, the raw data is all but useless. My take: Like color profiles for printers and displays, this is a nightmare waiting to happen. We're going to have to have libraries of thousands of these profiles - just to hope to be able to handle a random raw image. another RAW advantage, it's NOT tagged and manipulated to any one particular color profile ;) The advantage of the raw data is that it hasn't had its range clipped yet; its still up to 14 bits per pixel (jpeg clips to 8 bits after gamma correction). That's good - if you can process it correctly. Bad - if you cannot process it fully - it leaves you with extra white noise. Most RAW file formats (note the caps now) are undocumented (trying to not say proprietary) extensions of TIFF 6.0. (DNG is also an extension to TIFF 6.0). ...This is kindof like what people are doing to MPEG-4, to create things like DivX and Xvid. LOL - a gotcha to be aware of - many cameras use a *lossy* compression on RAW by default. I'd venture anyone serious about wanting RAW needs to turn that off! In four diff places, I've now read comments to the affect that because RAW is a non-standard, it is NOT appropriate for long-term / archival storage use. They recommend TIFF or JPEG with a lossless or zero compression. I can see why RAW is good for a professional photographer's use in the short term. But all the above, taken together, makes me think this is a format that's not useful for archival / long-term use. For said archive, I guess it can't hurt to keep the RAW file, and the profile, as long as you *also* do a TIFF or something. You explained that much better than i could have. :) At this point with newer systems they're generally all supported by Photoshop CameraRAW and can be converted to DNG. i feel that's reasonably safe since I'm seeling the useful life right around 10 years for an image, DNG still bothers me a bit. It's an Adobe format, a container for their particular variant of RAW, based on TIFF. I don't trust Adobe much. Part of the reason we have not yet started to convert to DNG, I love the format but you are right all the eggs in one basket. heh. Just ran across some old PDF files that I cannot seem to open anymore. Preview gives an empty window. Adobe Reader crashes. Tried full Acrobat on XP - it blue screens. That's a good example of how Adobe formats work - even the open ones. oh what fun! --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: New 500G Firewire HD - folders or partitions?
Dan is correct. Multiple platter HDs' use segments of all disks for each partition simultaneously so the HD does'nt have to jump around to find files, and the dick readers run in parallel so to put mord data into the motherboard at one time. The main reason I mentioned using multiple partitions is not as much for mechanical failure, but also if the partition accidentally gets erased or moved by someone else, then you do'nt have to restore all of the files. Another idea I have is to install 2 HDs' in your computer if possible and designate one strictly for Virtual Memeory (I have only tried this on a PC. I'm not sure if Mac even still uses V.M..) and storage for non interactive files like photos', or media files', or pdf for example with multiple partitions if you want. Then designate the other H.D. for the OS and interactive programs. This is to allow the Virtual Memory and the OS to work simultaniously without making one HD jump all over the place. It improves performance immensely. On Jan 5, 9:18 am, Dan dantear...@gmail.com wrote: At 8:50 AM -0600 1/5/2009, Hunter Fuller wrote: The disk is partitioned in this manner: Say you have multiple platters in a drive (the most common) and you have an 80 GiB disk. We will say it has four platters for simplicity. When you partition it, let's say you create 2x 40 GiB partitions. That means the data in partition one will be stored on platters 1-2 and the data in partition two on platters 3-4. AFAIK, logical to physical block translation is done in CYLINDER order, not platter order. So partitions cut a swath of cylinders thru a drive. They do NOT live on a single platter. That would be quite inefficient; totally eliminating the point of having independent arms. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Where do I learn.... becomes archiving files and images- the future
At 1:13 PM -0500 1/6/2009, Sam Macomber wrote: On Jan 6, 2009, at 12:42 PM, Dan wrote: The direct CCD data (raw) is unusable unless you have a profile containing the necessary metrics, regarding that particular camera's ccd performance. Said profile is sometimes included in the metadata buried within the raw file, but not always. IOW, iffa you no gots that profile, the raw data is all but useless. My take: Like color profiles for printers and displays, this is a nightmare waiting to happen. We're going to have to have libraries of thousands of these profiles - just to hope to be able to handle a random raw image. another RAW advantage, it's NOT tagged and manipulated to any one particular color profile ;) But the profile is all about the response of that particular camera's CCD array. To use the data, you have to first apply that profile. You can then tweak it from there... hum. Are you saying that there are times when you wouldn't want to use that camera's profile at all? I don't trust Adobe much. Part of the reason we have not yet started to convert to DNG, I love the format but you are right all the eggs in one basket. heh. Just ran across some old PDF files that I cannot seem to open anymore. Preview gives an empty window. Adobe Reader crashes. Tried full Acrobat on XP - it blue screens. That's a good example of how Adobe formats work - even the open ones. oh what fun! yea. We have now found that Acrobat 4, from 1999, is able to view the docs. Working on exporting the data now. Worst case is that we can print 'em, then rescan. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Up from an eMac 700
i recommend skip G4 tower series... and hunt for G5... You may exchange your E700 with a AGP G4 and find a upgrade sonnet card too... Mighter than 1000 Mhz and adding cheap Rams will give you good machine... But as i said i would skip all of it and find a base budget G5, if you have budget for LCD screen. With G5 you have a widen graphic card support and ram support with perfect case... You do not need very fast cpu's... So heat and noice wont be problem. With faster G4 processors noice and heat increasing. I would recomment a G5 arround 1.8n Mhz... Base machine for your needs. 2 GB ram... It will include good DVD recorder that better than most budget G4s and better graphic card and upgrade options with perfect physical condition. 2009/1/6 Sam Macomber s...@macomber.com: On Jan 5, 2009, at 3:12 PM, Sam Macomber wrote: On Jan 5, 2009, at 2:53 PM, Mel wrote: snip If I did a lot of writing, an older mac is the best. WriteNow and a powerbook 180(best screen of the 1xx series IMO) spin down the HDD and type away! I'm looking to upgrade my self. current is an eMac 700 which is great for most usage surfing, email, quicken, and what have you. It gets a bit sluggish when my wife is doing the bills(quicken and web going at the same time), playing music as she does it, while I watch a video off it streaming to the AppleTV.It gets just a smidge unhappy. Plus, USB 1.1 and the small screen with a slow refresh, killing my eyeballs... We've been taking about getting a new computer for a while as we just want one computer in the house... right now I'm debating between dredging up the leftover parts at work to build a G4 tower and get a 1.8GHz processor upgrade, USB2 card, some new big HDDs(pair of 500s should do it) nice 24 screen. we'd be hitting around $800, it'd be better than what we've got, but still several generations old. Or we get a new iMac $1500ish is a bit of a pill to swallow, but we got 6 years out of our emac and I see no reason why a new iMac would be any different.. Tough one... on the BTW, I drive a 1985 VW Quantum wagon in the winter, come summer I drive a 1974 VW Karmann Ghia convertible, well on sunny days, so 500-1000mi/yr... wife has a 2003 VW Passat wagon, got kids, need a safe reliable car :) I also have a 1985 Renault Fuego, mint condition and very reliable. Selling that one though I can't bring my self to use it as a winter car (not a speck of rust on it) and I prefer my Ghia in the summer :)Oh and my wife hates it heh! Mel, yup those IIci are the best, as i recall you bought most of mine from me some years back. I still have one tucked away with my old plus and all the parts and software i need for it, got a daystar turbo 601/66 in it. -sam If you have access to a 24 in screen, then I take a look at the mini's lottsa powere-itty bitty box. that's just it, I don't have a screen I'd be buying one if I went with the G4 tower. -- Baha Ata --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Where do I learn.... becomes archiving files and images- the future
It's not preserving the still images that bothers me so much as the video---video of our little kids who have grown up or adults who are no longer with us. I can print out still images and preserve them in various ways, but there is no printing out video to save it; it's on disks or tape in order to exist at all. My video is shot on mini-DV, fed into my Mac through a firewire cable, edited in Final Cut, and burned to DVD. These edited videos have titles, captions, and brevity through cuts of unnecessary footage that make it watchable, unlike the raw tapes. So I just make many copies of my edited videos, burning them slowly (1X) in case that does it any better, distribute them widely among relatives, and then plan on continually copying them onto newer media as time goes by. When I'm gone, I would hope that anyone in the family who cares about these videos would continue such preservation efforts. Actually, it's probably the non-family comedy or instructional videos I've done for YouTube that will last the longest, since it's easy to download such videos, and interested people are no doubt doing that onto their hard drives all over the world. The quality stinks, but they'll probably live forever in the public domain. It's somewhat discouraging to think that if my family videos are lost to future generations of my family, they may only know me through these YouTube videos, as I crash into walls while riding a belt sander or as a slightly loopy art instructor (see http://tinyurl.com/7l767w and http://tinyurl.com/8wotmd). The person who said that it's bad to pen notes on the back of printed photos is correct. Use pencil, pressing very lightly. I once took a museum management class in which I was told that one of the best way to preserve artifacts is in brown paper bags or cardboard boxes with identification written on them in number 2 pencil. I was told of a museum whose basement, where they stored tons of stuff, was flooded, and after everything dried out the only readable records were the ones penciled, not penned, on the bags, boxes, or tags. Anything written in pen had smeared and was unreadable, whereas the penciled notes, after drying out, were just fine. Tom --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: External DVD RW play dvds in osx??
The fact that you are using 10.4.11 indicates that you have used the apple updater to completely update your computer. Am I correct? If not Update. On Jan 6, 11:01 am, insightinmind billycarm...@verizon.net wrote: On Jan 6, 2009, at 2:30 AM, Kris Tilford wrote: My best guess is that under whatever version of OS X you're using(?) you need to install Patchburn to get the DVD player recognized by the Apple applications. The fact that VLC and mPlayer aren't working is more problematic because they shouldn't require Patchburn, so perhaps there are other issues? Does the DVD/RW model(?) have the latest firmware for it? Look in System Profiler for Revision: to get the firmware version. Patchburn for your particular OS X, takes care of the external drive recognition. This might be more than you're willing to ingest, but I thought I'd share it just the same. In my PCI Graphics G4 Yikes!, I only had an internal CD RW, and wanted to playback DVD files from my harddrive, and as you discovered, you cannot open DVD Player unless it finds an internal DVD R or R/W ... so I went through the process of hacking the DVDPlayback file as follows (I'm looking for the original www link, but can't find it off hand). I later found it more efficient, to simply install a DVD RW, and didn't need this hack: I hacked the DVDPlayback file using CoryM's suggestions for 10.4.10, but it seems to work under 10.4.11. The first numbers needing replacement, may be offset by 1 ... (I'm not real adept at counting in Hex) ... Suggested for 10.4.10: /System/Library/Frameworks/DVDPlayback.framework/Versions/A/DVDPlayback and the changes are: Offset 674A8: 4082 0020 80A1 0040 3860 7CA4 F430 to 4082 0020 38A0 3860 7CA4 F430 Offset 9E2C8: 4E80 0020 7C48 02A6 429F 0005 BE01 FFC0 7FE8 02A6 to 4E80 0020 3860 4E80 0020 BE01 FFC0 7FE8 02A6 I used Hex Fiend:http://ridiculousfish.com/hexfiend/ as my Hex Editor (Fiendishly fast). Did have to realize the Hex address in the left column was always the 0th location, then I had to count 1, 2, 3, ..., A, B, C ... etc to the right to find numbers like 674A8 (that's about 8 over from 674A0). Changing the Permissions for the .../A folder and DVDPlayback files using Get Info was essential, as was having a backup copy of DVDPlayback (all work done on the Desktop). When it was time to replace the DVDPlayback file, I found it convenient to move the one in the A folder to the Trash, then copy the modified one into the A folder, and then returning Permissions back to the system for both the A folder and DVDPlayback file. A Restart made the new DVDPlayback file active, and I could then also empty the Trash. Now if I could just turn off Deinterlacing, DVD Player might be smoother ... (I'm also on a PowerPC 8500 - Sonnet G4/450 CPU, internal SCSI CDRW (only) with Xpostfacto Tiger 10.4.11, CCCed from a hacked eMac CD Tiger Installation to an external Firewire HD, compliments of a Quicksilver 2002 Dual 1GHz). Bill Connelly artsite:http://mysite.verizon.net/moonstoneartstudio myspace:http://www.myspace.com/moonstoneartstudio --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Where do I learn.... becomes archiving files and images- the future
On Tue, Jan 6, 2009 at 2:04 PM, Tom tba...@nmia.com wrote: It's not preserving the still images that bothers me so much as the video---video of our little kids who have grown up or adults who are no longer with us. I can print out still images and preserve them in various ways, but there is no printing out video to save it; it's on disks or tape in order to exist at all. My video is shot on mini-DV, fed into my Mac through a firewire cable, edited in Final Cut, and burned to DVD. These edited videos have titles, captions, and brevity through cuts of unnecessary footage that make it watchable, unlike the raw tapes. In extreme terms you can print the video. Photoshop has the ability to take a video file and break it into individual frames. Saving according to your preset. At 30 fps the folders would of course, become massive. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Where do I learn.... becomes archiving files and images- the future
At 11:04 AM -0800 1/6/2009, Tom wrote: It's not preserving the still images that bothers me so much as the video---video of our little kids who have grown up or adults who are no longer with us. I can print out still images and preserve them in various ways, but there is no printing out video to save it; it's on disks or tape in order to exist at all. My video is shot on mini-DV, fed into my Mac through a firewire cable, edited in Final Cut, and burned to DVD. These edited videos have titles, captions, and brevity through cuts of unnecessary footage that make it watchable, unlike the raw tapes. And in the process of authoring the DVD-Video, they're also highly lossy compressed. So I just make many copies of my edited videos, burning them slowly (1X) in case that does it any better, distribute them widely among relatives, and then plan on continually copying them onto newer media as time goes by. When I'm gone, I would hope that anyone in the family who cares about these videos would continue such preservation efforts. Keep also the version *before* that final compression. That way, when future DVD formats come out, eg: Blu-Ray, you can re-author the disc with less or maybe even no compression. Just out of curiosity, how big are those pre-compression files? Are you doing this in 1080 or higher? - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: 10.4.11 Internet Connect and Network Prefpane corrupted?
Can someone verify what version I should have for these files for 10.4: Applications/ Internet Connect and System/Library/ Preferencepanes/ Network.prefpane. If I don't have the correct ones ,any kind soul willing to upload them to me via email? I am on digest mode so including my email will speed things up. Reinstall the 10.4.11 COMBO Update PPC. This will give you the correct Preference Pane. You should probably trash the Old System from a previous archive installation, there is rarely anything worth keeping 4+GB's of worthless old files just eating up free space on your HD. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Help: My New 23 ACD fails to turn on!
On Jan 5, 2009, at 11:28 PM, ScottTheRobot wrote: It looks so good on my desk, so i would hate to see it go. Hold a flashlight up to the LCD when booted to see if you can see any image on the screen. If you see an image, it's the backlight being burnt out. If you don't see an image, it could be many things. This link has info on LCD backlight repair: http://www.inventgeek.com/Projects/BacklightFix/Overview.aspx --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Yes, there is such a thing as too big
The 24 iMac arrived just a few minutes ago, it's sitting on desk with the styrofoam protecting the screen as I wait for everything to warm up to room temperature. It's -20 C today, the FedEx trucks aren't heated according to the bearer of big box, and by all accounts, the box has been in below zero temperatures for 24-36 hours. And yes, there is such a thing as too big. So anyone have any ideas on how long I should wait before I plug the iMac to power? Should I leave the styrofoam cover on/off? Turn the electric baseboard heater on high? I had thought MacTracker had maximum/minimum temps but I'm not finding anything. Thanks Steve R --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Yes, there is such a thing as too big
At 2:41 PM -0500 1/6/2009, Steve R wrote: The 24 iMac arrived just a few minutes ago woohoo :D it's sitting on desk with the styrofoam protecting the screen as I wait for everything to warm up to room temperature. It's -20 C today Good plan. So anyone have any ideas on how long I should wait before I plug the iMac to power? Should I leave the styrofoam cover on/off? Turn the electric baseboard heater on high? Remove all the packing materials etc, so it gets good air circulation. Then give it 24 hours to come up to temperature and let the resulting condensation evaporate. Room temperature should be good enough, as long as the room isn't very humid. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Yes, there is such a thing as too big
At 2:50 PM -0500 1/6/09, Sam Macomber posted: I'd have let it sit in the box personally. They're sealed in well enough to not allow much moisture in (as I recall from the two we got at work there's a silica gel packet thiggy to help with moisture in the box as well) Warm moist in side air condensing on the cold internal parts I'd worry about. from apple: Operating temperature: 50° to 95° F (10° to 35° C) Storage temperature: -40° to 185° F (-40° to 85° C) Relative humidity: 5% to 95% noncondensing Thanks, Sam. I'd think Apple would list the temperatures somewhere in the Everything Mac booklet, or maybe even on the packing slip when they ship mid-winter to Canada. Otherwise they're assuming I already have a computer and access to their website. To be fair, the temperature ranges could be listed on a retail box -- this is refurbished in a plain brown box or two. Steve R --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Yes, there is such a thing as too big
On Jan 6, 2009, at 2:59 PM, Steve R wrote: At 2:50 PM -0500 1/6/09, Sam Macomber posted: I'd have let it sit in the box personally. They're sealed in well enough to not allow much moisture in (as I recall from the two we got at work there's a silica gel packet thiggy to help with moisture in the box as well) Warm moist in side air condensing on the cold internal parts I'd worry about. from apple: Operating temperature: 50° to 95° F (10° to 35° C) Storage temperature: -40° to 185° F (-40° to 85° C) Relative humidity: 5% to 95% noncondensing Thanks, Sam. I'd think Apple would list the temperatures somewhere in the Everything Mac booklet, or maybe even on the packing slip when they ship mid-winter to Canada. Otherwise they're assuming I already have a computer and access to their website. To be fair, the temperature ranges could be listed on a retail box -- this is refurbished in a plain brown box or two. you'd think that... I don't recall seeing it, though I didn't look at the packaging too hard. I just make a point of letting things sit for a while mid winter (I'm in Maine, it can get a little chilly here too) On the new computer congrats!i think I'm leaning in that direction now too, eyeballing the 2.8GHz 24 referbs. ;) -sam --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Up from an eMac 700
Jeff Bequette jbeque...@tconl.com On Jan 6, 2009, at 12:48 PM, Baha Ata wrote: i recommend skip G4 tower series... and hunt for G5... You may exchange your E700 with a AGP G4 and find a upgrade sonnet card too... Mighter than 1000 Mhz and adding cheap Rams will give you good machine... But as i said i would skip all of it and find a base budget G5, if you have budget for LCD screen. With G5 you have a widen graphic card support and ram support with perfect case... You do not need very fast cpu's... So heat and noice wont be problem. With faster G4 processors noice and heat increasing. I would recomment a G5 arround 1.8n Mhz... Base machine for your needs. 2 GB ram... It will include good DVD recorder that better than most budget G4s and better graphic card and upgrade options with perfect physical condition. Mel, yup those IIci are the best, as i recall you bought most of mine from me some years back. I still have one tucked away with my old plus and all the parts and software i need for it, got a daystar turbo 601/66 in it. -sam If you have access to a 24 in screen, then I take a look at the mini's lottsa powere-itty bitty box. that's just it, I don't have a screen I'd be buying one if I went with the G4 tower. -- Baha Ata If the Mac mini is to much 599-799, i highly recomend G5 Towers- as i sit hereon my june 04 dual 1.8 4gig of ram( that i might be able to sell for $350-450 if i was in a selling mood. One thing I regret now is not getting the bluetooth option- not so much for me but for my tween daughters and their cell phones --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Can I do This?
Is there an app that will start iTunes (Or any music player) at a specific time, like an alarm clock? Or is there a way I could build a script to do this? Thanks, Dennis in Edna --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Help: My New 23 ACD fails to turn on!
Date: Mon, Jan 5 2009 9:28 pm From: ScottTheRobot I bought a beautiful 23 ACD (an older acrylic model) on Ebay and it arrived today. IT DOESNT WORK! I bought it AS-IS... If you have any tips as to what could be the problem with this, drop me a line. Details: When i plug it in to my MX2, and start my computer, it starts. What starts? Does the monitor power up and lights come on and you get any desktop or login screen for a while? It looks so good on my desk, so i would hate to see it go. ! -- dorayme --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
XmlLayer window in Firefox
I have a window in Firefox that's labeled/named 'XmlLayer' under the window bar. When I scroll to it to show (usually I have about 4 or more windows open) the toolbar disappears except for the Firefox label beside the Apple icon. Firefox has gotten noticeably slower in the last week or so as well. I don't want to erase everything as Firefox remembers passwords that I don't and I don't want to go through putting them all back in again. What is this and should I get rid of it? If so, how? It may be the culprit for the reason for my slowness. TIA Tim --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Can I do This?
On Jan 6, 2009, at 2:03 PM, Dennis Myhand wrote: Is there an app that will start iTunes (Or any music player) at a specific time, like an alarm clock? Or is there a way I could build a script to do this? Thanks, Dennis in Edna Repeat after me: Google is my friend. Google knows all, Google sees all. Googling 'iTunes Alarm Clock' brings up a multitude of choices. If you want to roll your own, you can use launchd to fire up an Applescript telling iTunes to play the desired song or playlist. See here for some launchd recipes and tips http://tinyurl.com/822oc Here's a pile of Applescript info for iTunes http://dougscripts.com/itunes/index.php -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: New 500G Firewire HD - folders or partitions?
On Jan 6, 2009, at 11:28 AM, KP wrote: Another idea I have is to install 2 HDs' in your computer if possible and designate one strictly for Virtual Memeory (I have only tried this on a PC. I'm not sure if Mac even still uses V.M..) It always has...it's Unix, after all. However OSX's vm system is not as amenable to mucking about with as, say, linux' is...you use swap files instead of a swap partition, and frankly, you won't really gain anything by screwing around with it, not on a halfway modern system. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Where do I learn.... becomes archiving files and images- the future
On Jan 6, 2009, at 12:04 PM, Tom wrote: It's not preserving the still images that bothers me so much as the video---video of our little kids who have grown up or adults who are no longer with us. I can print out still images and preserve them in various ways, but there is no printing out video to save it; it's on disks or tape in order to exist at all. My video is shot on mini-DV, fed into my Mac through a firewire cable, edited in Final Cut, and burned to DVD. These edited videos have titles, captions, and brevity through cuts of unnecessary footage that make it watchable, unlike the raw tapes. Another solution is to use your DV camera as a recorder...feed the finished project back out of iMovie or FCP/E to a tape in the camera, and store that away as well. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Yes, there is such a thing as too big
It depends on the local humidity, but I'd let it warm up 6-24 hours. Give it a week or two, though and it'll feel just right. Then you'll work on someone else's system with an old 20 or, heaven forfend, a 17 screen at 1024 x 768 and you'll be all What IS this puny thing I have to work with?? Let me get back to my *normal* computer! 8-) -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Can I do This?
On Tue, Jan 6, 2009 at 4:03 PM, Dennis Myhand dmyh...@ednaisd.org wrote: Is there an app that will start iTunes (Or any music player) at a specific time, like an alarm clock? Or is there a way I could build a script to do this? Thanks, Dennis in Edna Open up Terminal (type it in using Spotlight and it should come right up) and type (without quotes) man crontab. Even though it's deprecated in Leopard it should still work for now (and I still prefer it to launchd!). -- Best Regards, John Musbach --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Up from an eMac 700
On Jan 6, 2009, at 3:48 PM, Jeff Bequette wrote: Jeff Bequette jbeque...@tconl.com On Jan 6, 2009, at 12:48 PM, Baha Ata wrote: i recommend skip G4 tower series... and hunt for G5... You may exchange your E700 with a AGP G4 and find a upgrade sonnet card too... Mighter than 1000 Mhz and adding cheap Rams will give you good machine... But as i said i would skip all of it and find a base budget G5, if you have budget for LCD screen. With G5 you have a widen graphic card support and ram support with perfect case... You do not need very fast cpu's... So heat and noice wont be problem. With faster G4 processors noice and heat increasing. I would recomment a G5 arround 1.8n Mhz... Base machine for your needs. 2 GB ram... It will include good DVD recorder that better than most budget G4s and better graphic card and upgrade options with perfect physical condition. Mel, yup those IIci are the best, as i recall you bought most of mine from me some years back. I still have one tucked away with my old plus and all the parts and software i need for it, got a daystar turbo 601/66 in it. -sam If you have access to a 24 in screen, then I take a look at the mini's lottsa powere-itty bitty box. that's just it, I don't have a screen I'd be buying one if I went with the G4 tower. -- Baha Ata If the Mac mini is to much 599-799, i highly recomend G5 Towers- as i sit hereon my june 04 dual 1.8 4gig of ram( that i might be able to sell for $350-450 if i was in a selling mood. One thing I regret now is not getting the bluetooth option- not so much for me but for my tween daughters and their cell phones So as i see it at this point: G4 tower w/ processor upgrade, HDDs, USB card, screen and KB/mouse $800 range (and this is with getting a free tower with a gig o' ram) Mini w/ screen KB/Mouse external HDD $1200 range G5 tower dual 1.8, RAM, HDD screen KB/mouse $1300 range (going by online reseller pricing) iMac(referb 24) has everything $1500 ($1549+tax) the G4 will be the least reliable, due to age of parts and the number of upgrades that I'd be doing I see the definate possibility of some annoying glitches As I think on it now, this would be a waste of money. Mini I'd have done if it were just a bit better of a machine, faster bus/processor and better video processor (if it were as the rumors were claiming I'd have been all over it!) As it is compared to the $1200 iMac it's not as good and for the same kind of money when you add in all the parts needed. Possibly, If I had a screen I would lean more for it though G5 is the best idea if i go used it seems. but, a dual 1.8GHz, how does that compare speed wise to a dual 1.83 or 2GHz in the mini or the 2.8GHz in the iMac?(oh and no single processor 1.8s, had enough issues with the two we've got at work and OS 10.5 is crash city on the older of the two) iMac, I'd go lower range, but I hear bad things about that 20 screen, as I may have to do some light color work on it a few times a year on days I can't make it into work... egh looking more and more like I should just cough up the dough and buy an iMac. -sam --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Where do I learn.... becomes archiving files and images- the future
Hi Everyone, This subject has been a lot of fun to follow, I read every response ! I do have some info for those who are using DVD's. Check out these two sites. http://best-blank-dvd-review.gorungoreviews.com www.supermediastore.com for Taiyo Yuden DVD's I realize this is not the full answer but some help. It looks like these are good for a long time (100 years). I am in no way connected to this site or Co. Wm. Arnold ( Mac's Forever ) --- On Tue, 1/6/09, Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu wrote: From: Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu Subject: Re: Where do I learn becomes archiving files and images- the future To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Date: Tuesday, January 6, 2009, 4:38 PM On Jan 6, 2009, at 12:04 PM, Tom wrote: It's not preserving the still images that bothers me so much as the video---video of our little kids who have grown up or adults who are no longer with us. I can print out still images and preserve them in various ways, but there is no printing out video to save it; it's on disks or tape in order to exist at all. My video is shot on mini-DV, fed into my Mac through a firewire cable, edited in Final Cut, and burned to DVD. These edited videos have titles, captions, and brevity through cuts of unnecessary footage that make it watchable, unlike the raw tapes. Another solution is to use your DV camera as a recorder...feed the finished project back out of iMovie or FCP/E to a tape in the camera, and store that away as well. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Yes, there is such a thing as too big
That's me every time I go home. 17 CRT at home(nice eMac CRT) and at work I have a 30. (quite honestly I DO need it. beats the hell out of dual 21 CRTs I used to work on.) -sam It depends on the local humidity, but I'd let it warm up 6-24 hours. Give it a week or two, though and it'll feel just right. Then you'll work on someone else's system with an old 20 or, heaven forfend, a 17 screen at 1024 x 768 and you'll be all What IS this puny thing I have to work with?? Let me get back to my *normal* computer! 8-) -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Where do I learn.... becomes archiving files and images- the future
and they say NOTHING about other brands tested... to me that just says 'hey, we think this is the best, look it burns at the fully rated speed on our DVD burner yipee!' a few years back i read a review that showed ALL their test data, it was an insane amount of information (wish i remember the site, but it was quite a while ago) In any case that one found Ritek G05 disks to be the best... I've been using those, burned about 1,200 of them at this point, nothing bad to report. I did have a streak of coasters, but that turned out to be a failing DVD recorder. -sam Hi Everyone, This subject has been a lot of fun to follow, I read every response ! I do have some info for those who are using DVD's. Check out these two sites. http://best-blank-dvd-review.gorungoreviews.com www.supermediastore.com for Taiyo Yuden DVD's I realize this is not the full answer but some help. It looks like these are good for a long time (100 years). I am in no way connected to this site or Co. Wm. Arnold ( Mac's Forever ) --- On Tue, 1/6/09, Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu wrote: From: Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu Subject: Re: Where do I learn becomes archiving files and images- the future To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Date: Tuesday, January 6, 2009, 4:38 PM On Jan 6, 2009, at 12:04 PM, Tom wrote: It's not preserving the still images that bothers me so much as the video---video of our little kids who have grown up or adults who are no longer with us. I can print out still images and preserve them in various ways, but there is no printing out video to save it; it's on disks or tape in order to exist at all. My video is shot on mini-DV, fed into my Mac through a firewire cable, edited in Final Cut, and burned to DVD. These edited videos have titles, captions, and brevity through cuts of unnecessary footage that make it watchable, unlike the raw tapes. Another solution is to use your DV camera as a recorder...feed the finished project back out of iMovie or FCP/E to a tape in the camera, and store that away as well. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Where do I learn.... becomes archiving files and images- the future
At 2:14 PM -0800 1/6/2009, Wm. Arnold wrote: http://best-blank-dvd-review.gorungoreviews.com for Taiyo Yuden DVD's That review notwithstanding, TY media is excellent. I've been buying 'em in bulk for quite a while now. Can offer some thru LEM Swap if there's desire. Taiyo Yuden is one of the more behind the scenes type companies, that's had paws in our lives for decades without us knowing much about them. A good write up on them be here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taiyo_Yuden - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Address Book import
On Jan 6, 2009, at 9:45 AM, Bruce Johnson wrote: On Jan 5, 2009, at 6:58 PM, George Hozendorf wrote: Could some one tell me an easy way to import Last Name, First Name and eMail address info from Excel into the Address Book Application? Save it as a text file, comma or tab separated. Select Import Text File in Address Book. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs That did it. Now how do I rename the Last Import or delete it? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Address Book import
On Jan 6, 2009, at 4:58 PM, George Hozendorf wrote: That did it. Now how do I rename the Last Import or delete it? Ignore it, or add someone from your emails to replace it. Last Import is a placeholder to show you the last thing you added. so you can check what's new or not. If you delete it, you delete all the ones you just imported... -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Where do I learn.... becomes archiving files and images- the future
On Jan 6, 12:22 pm, Dan dantear...@gmail.com wrote: Just out of curiosity, how big are those pre-compression files? Are you doing this in 1080 or higher? - Dan. How big are these movies, these video files? Well, a manual I have here on Final Cut says: the DV video that you work with in Final Cut features 5X compression, meaning that a DV clip uses 1/5 the data that raw, uncompressed video would. The format is listed as DV-NTSC: each frame is 720 X 480 pixels, and they play at about 30 frames per second. My latest family movie, 17 minutes long, exported from Final Cut, is listed in the Finder as 832 MB. iDVD created a disk image of it that is 956 MB. To create the actual DVD, I drop that disk image into Toast and burn it to a DVD-R. I can also export the finished video from Final Cut directly back to the video camera. The camera can then record it onto a blank mini-DV tape. So I have two ways to archive a finished movie project: DVD-R and mini-DV tape. I don't know which is more archival (longer lasting), but I would guess the tape. But I'll archive my movies onto both. For a comparison of visual quality, I have 8mm film movies that my father took of my brothers and I when we were little kids, back in the 1950s and 60s. They're pretty grainy, and the colors are fading. I think my digital videos, despite the DV compression, look better than his movies on film--certainly sharp enough to trigger the memories of family events that they are intended to evoke. Those video images, and the associated recorded sounds, bring old memories back to life quite effectively. Anybody with a Mac capable of using iMovie should be aware that you can plug a DV camera into your Mac (with a FireWire cable) and easily create movies. iMovie takes control of your camera for import, and then you can edit the imported video in iMovie, and afterward export it to iDVD to burn it to a disk. The ease of doing this is a revelation for some people--it sure was to me a few years ago, when I first tried it. Just make sure you buy a video camera that has a FireWire port, so you can connect it to your Mac. Tom --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: New 500G Firewire HD - folders or partitions?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 2009/1/6 Dan : Unlike Windoze, the memory management system in Unix is quite efficient... So moving the swap files to a different hard drive will improve overall system performance *ONLY* if your system is horribly memory poor in the first place. This is not the case for most users, so we rarely recommend it. What's inefficient about Windows' MM? If your system's page out rate is that high, all the time, buying more RAM would be a better investment... - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth - -- - -hackmiester -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.8 (Darwin) Comment: http://getfiregpg.org iEYEARECAAYFAklkDDkACgkQZGCrekxoMEXB4ACgut4NO+i5Pp3WotJDyj4pdJnq TSsAn3j6XSTr9Vg0wH/N8SmmX3nGB6pZ =ZLGp -END PGP SIGNATURE- --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Can I do This?
On Jan 6, 2009, at 4:03 PM, Dennis Myhand wrote: Is there an app that will start iTunes (Or any music player) at a specific time, like an alarm clock? Or is there a way I could build a script to do this? Thanks, Dennis in Edna Dennis, You can start iTunes from iCal. The Help menu in iCal explains how to set an alarm for an event. One of the options for the alarm is opening a file. Choose a song (or playlist, etc) from iTunes. I've done that very thing quite often. You can wake up every morning to Sonny and Cher, just like Groundhog Day. Ed O 1ghz emac 10.5.6 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Where do I learn.... becomes archiving files and images- the future
On Jan 6, 10:42 am, Dan dantear...@gmail.com wrote: heh. Just ran across some old PDF files that I cannot seem to open anymore. Preview gives an empty window. Adobe Reader crashes. Tried full Acrobat on XP - it blue screens. That's a good example of how Adobe formats work - even the open ones. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth This is a perfect illustration of why you don't want to use a proprietary format for archival storage. The future of the format remains in the hands of the owner, who can change it as they see fit. PDF, JPG and other formats, while they might be de facto standards, are still proprietary formats, and may not exist at all in a few years. TIFF is still the recommended solution. http://www.bcr.org/cdp/best/digital-imaging-bp.pdf This guide addresses all aspects of long-term archival best practices for visual documents. This was developed in collaboration with the Library of Congress and OCLC/Dublin Core. There may be many opinions as to how this sort of project should be undertaken, but the research has already been done, and the guidelines established. Good luck! V Mabus --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Help: My New 23 ACD fails to turn on!
Nothing. No lights, the USB ports don't work. And the computer does not recognize that anything is connected. (when i connect from remote desktop or a second monitor) I am thinking now that it is the main power board. When i hold the flashlight to it as suggested by Kris, there is no image. Scott On Jan 6, 1:09 pm, dorayme dora...@optusnet.com.au wrote: Date: Mon, Jan 5 2009 9:28 pm From: ScottTheRobot I bought a beautiful 23 ACD (an older acrylic model) on Ebay and it arrived today. IT DOESNT WORK! I bought it AS-IS... If you have any tips as to what could be the problem with this, drop me a line. Details: When i plug it in to my MX2, and start my computer, it starts. What starts? Does the monitor power up and lights come on and you get any desktop or login screen for a while? It looks so good on my desk, so i would hate to see it go. ! -- dorayme --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: New 500G Firewire HD - folders or partitions?
At 7:58 PM -0600 1/6/2009, Hunter Fuller wrote: 2009/1/6 Dan : Unlike Windoze, the memory management system in Unix is quite efficient... So moving the swap files to a different hard drive will improve overall system performance *ONLY* if your system is horribly memory poor in the first place. This is not the case for most users, so we rarely recommend it. What's inefficient about Windows' MM? Everything. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Where do I learn.... becomes archiving files and images- the future
Hello All! Original Poster Here. Looks like I've kicked up a diverse conversation here. I think I've gleaned a great deal of thoughts from what's been discussed and I'll check on the NIST info soon. I want to comment on the RAW image file discussions. It occurs to me that the proper way to think of a camera's RAW file is to consider it a 'piece of undeveloped film'. The conversion and manipulation of a RAW file into a TIFF or JPEG is incredibly analagous to the astonishing ways Film can be manipulated to change the outcome of it's development into a finished Slide or Negative. Let along the changes one can introduce when taking that slide or negative to the print stage. I personally would NEVER consider an Undeveloped Piece Of Film to be ARCHIVAL. Currently, I don't see how RAW in it's current technological status can be considered ARCHIVAL. There is to much proprietary, licensed, and secret(?) tied up in how Nikon, Canon, Hasselblad, etc have things structured. Maybe ADOBE can give DNG to the Library Of Congress as a repository of profiles and processes and such. How are all these zillions of important images be stored for posterity let alone people's family snapshots and memories??? Richard On Jan 6, 2:22 pm, Dan dantear...@gmail.com wrote: At 11:04 AM -0800 1/6/2009, Tom wrote: It's not preserving the still images that bothers me so much as the video---video of our little kids who have grown up or adults who are no longer with us. I can print out still images and preserve them in various ways, but there is no printing out video to save it; it's on disks or tape in order to exist at all. My video is shot on mini-DV, fed into my Mac through a firewire cable, edited in Final Cut, and burned to DVD. These edited videos have titles, captions, and brevity through cuts of unnecessary footage that make it watchable, unlike the raw tapes. And in the process of authoring the DVD-Video, they're also highly lossy compressed. So I just make many copies of my edited videos, burning them slowly (1X) in case that does it any better, distribute them widely among relatives, and then plan on continually copying them onto newer media as time goes by. When I'm gone, I would hope that anyone in the family who cares about these videos would continue such preservation efforts. Keep also the version *before* that final compression. That way, when future DVD formats come out, eg: Blu-Ray, you can re-author the disc with less or maybe even no compression. Just out of curiosity, how big are those pre-compression files? Are you doing this in 1080 or higher? - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Any reason to keep OS 9.2.2 if not used 6 mos?
Hi, I haven't used OS 9.2.2 for at least 6 months. Is there any real reason to keep it on my machine? My apps and files that I use regularly are written for the OS X system. I have OS X 10.2.8 on a separate drive. I have been very careful to put only OS X stuff on my machine. I would like to clean the HD with 9.2.2 off and reformat and use it for picture and music storage. Is there any reason I shouldn't? Any operating system problems that might arise? Jim --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: New 500G Firewire HD - folders or partitions?
2009/1/6 Dan dantear...@gmail.com: At 7:58 PM -0600 1/6/2009, Hunter Fuller wrote: 2009/1/6 Dan : Unlike Windoze, the memory management system in Unix is quite efficient... So moving the swap files to a different hard drive will improve overall system performance *ONLY* if your system is horribly memory poor in the first place. This is not the case for most users, so we rarely recommend it. What's inefficient about Windows' MM? Everything. I barely page at all on my windows boxes, even the ones with 1GB RAM. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth -- -hackmiester --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: External DVD RW play dvds in osx??
On this particular machine I haven't ran the update since I installed. I did install a predownloaded 10.4.11 update and an itunes 7 update. I think I have solved the problem though. I just bought a DL DVD RW drive at a local computer recycler for $15. I used patch-burn and it works great! Thanks! -Jonas On Tue, Jan 6, 2009 at 11:11 AM, KP parishky...@gmail.com wrote: The fact that you are using 10.4.11 indicates that you have used the apple updater to completely update your computer. Am I correct? If not Update. On Jan 6, 11:01 am, insightinmind billycarm...@verizon.net wrote: On Jan 6, 2009, at 2:30 AM, Kris Tilford wrote: My best guess is that under whatever version of OS X you're using(?) you need to install Patchburn to get the DVD player recognized by the Apple applications. The fact that VLC and mPlayer aren't working is more problematic because they shouldn't require Patchburn, so perhaps there are other issues? Does the DVD/RW model(?) have the latest firmware for it? Look in System Profiler for Revision: to get the firmware version. Patchburn for your particular OS X, takes care of the external drive recognition. This might be more than you're willing to ingest, but I thought I'd share it just the same. In my PCI Graphics G4 Yikes!, I only had an internal CD RW, and wanted to playback DVD files from my harddrive, and as you discovered, you cannot open DVD Player unless it finds an internal DVD R or R/W ... so I went through the process of hacking the DVDPlayback file as follows (I'm looking for the original www link, but can't find it off hand). I later found it more efficient, to simply install a DVD RW, and didn't need this hack: I hacked the DVDPlayback file using CoryM's suggestions for 10.4.10, but it seems to work under 10.4.11. The first numbers needing replacement, may be offset by 1 ... (I'm not real adept at counting in Hex) ... Suggested for 10.4.10: /System/Library/Frameworks/DVDPlayback.framework/Versions/A/DVDPlayback and the changes are: Offset 674A8: 4082 0020 80A1 0040 3860 7CA4 F430 to 4082 0020 38A0 3860 7CA4 F430 Offset 9E2C8: 4E80 0020 7C48 02A6 429F 0005 BE01 FFC0 7FE8 02A6 to 4E80 0020 3860 4E80 0020 BE01 FFC0 7FE8 02A6 I used Hex Fiend:http://ridiculousfish.com/hexfiend/ as my Hex Editor (Fiendishly fast). Did have to realize the Hex address in the left column was always the 0th location, then I had to count 1, 2, 3, ..., A, B, C ... etc to the right to find numbers like 674A8 (that's about 8 over from 674A0). Changing the Permissions for the .../A folder and DVDPlayback files using Get Info was essential, as was having a backup copy of DVDPlayback (all work done on the Desktop). When it was time to replace the DVDPlayback file, I found it convenient to move the one in the A folder to the Trash, then copy the modified one into the A folder, and then returning Permissions back to the system for both the A folder and DVDPlayback file. A Restart made the new DVDPlayback file active, and I could then also empty the Trash. Now if I could just turn off Deinterlacing, DVD Player might be smoother ... (I'm also on a PowerPC 8500 - Sonnet G4/450 CPU, internal SCSI CDRW (only) with Xpostfacto Tiger 10.4.11, CCCed from a hacked eMac CD Tiger Installation to an external Firewire HD, compliments of a Quicksilver 2002 Dual 1GHz). Bill Connelly artsite:http://mysite.verizon.net/moonstoneartstudio myspace:http://www.myspace.com/moonstoneartstudio --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Where do I learn about long lasting cdr's or dvdr's ????
Dan wrote: At 10:13 AM -0800 1/5/2009, aussieshepsrock wrote: I wanted to 'expand' on how I'm handling this family photo archive project. :-) [snip - lots of details] snip more details... Burned media stores data as pits in the substraight, under the outer plastic coating. Over time, oxygen leeches through the plastic, and forms rust (oxide), which fill the pits, creating read errors. So cd/dvds should be stored in a vacuum or airtight container say zip lock bags squeezing out as much air as possible, then in a plastic (food) storage container? Or use one of the vacuum pack devices on the market. You could even try using the spray plastic for electrical connections to try and seal the container. Charles --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Where do I learn about long lasting cdr's or dvdr's ????
Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote: On Sun, Jan 4, 2009 at 9:29 PM, aussieshepsrock ilovaussiesh...@yahoo.com wrote: HiYa Wallace, Wikipedia was my first stop and while the entries I found were info snip--- Actually the tape formats in use 10 to 20 years ago can be found cheaply. Along with used tapes. they still work. However some of the drives may require SCSI. A stable place in an attic might suffice for storag Uhhh doesn't heat damage cd/dvds? Most attics get hot in the summer. Maybe a sturdy container in the bottom of an interior closet or top shelf in a basement would be better. By the way does anyone have any info on freezing cd/dvds? Of course common sense in bringing to room temp before using would be wise. snip rest --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
