Re: OT; Apple in negotiation with AMD ?
On Sat, 17 Apr 2010 07:23:42 -0500, Mark Sokolovsky coolmar...@gmail.com wrote: Apple going to AMD? That is a very close possibility that could happen in the next 5 years, but i won't like that at all. I liked it when Apple Macs still were made with the good ol' PowerPC processor. If you're gonna make any negotiations Apple, talk with IBM again and bring back the performance and originality of the PowerPC processor! Intel macs are just as good, it's just that when I grew up, i got used to this. Intel=Pcs, PowerPC=Macs. I am not saying that it's a bad thing, but switching to intel was taking away the personality, uniqueness, and originality of a Mac. I agree! -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/ -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: How do i connect a network printer?
Well, if your print 'server' (the comp with the printer is plugged into) is a Mac then just go into th eprinter prefs on the other Mac and hit add printer. It should show up in the list. On Sat, 17 Apr 2010 14:58:48 -0500, Mark Sokolovsky coolmar...@gmail.com wrote: I already have setup my printer in a way that it can be shared. How do i know that my Mac can detect it and connect to it? -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/ -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: OT; Apple in negotiation with AMD ?
On Sat, 17 Apr 2010 15:06:44 -0500, Dan dantear...@gmail.com wrote: At 3:45 PM -0400 4/17/2010, Mark Sokolovsky wrote: I was just curious on how this is possible. Mac == a PC standard mb + EFI + a specific selection of processors, buses, and peripherals. To slap Mac OS X on a PC, you need two things: A PC with the right combination of hardware, and a wedge to make BIOS smell like EFI. That's what the Hacintosh project(s) are all about. Start here: http://www.osx86project.org/ - Dan. One small correction: Mac=(PC-BIOS-SMBus)+EFI+SMC :) -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/ -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: How do I get Safari to display in wide screen?
On Fri, 16 Apr 2010 12:30:03 -0500, ll mlitwin3...@att.net wrote: I just replaced the 19 inch lcd monitor I used for my windows with a 25 incher. I switched the 19 inch monitor to my Quicksilver 933 with Leopard. Safari won't display in a full screen for me but I'm sure the fix must be simple. What is it? I've checked preferences and display. What do you mean by full screen? -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/ -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: labs and wireless mice
On Fri, 16 Apr 2010 18:35:50 -0500, Charles Lenington macso...@brightok.net wrote: Kris Tilford wrote: On Apr 16, 2010, at 6:37 AM, flags wrote: New 20-30 iMac lab w/ wireless mice. Problem: Imac 1's mouse controls iMac 7, etc. is there a quick/simple fix? Sounds like someone moved all the wireless mice around between the computers, probably as a gag? You'll either have to sort them out manually, or pair them again in the Bluetooth Preference Pane. Actually it was the initial setup. He's currently using the old wired mac mice from the old systems. This is a High School setting. Has anyone had any experience with wireless mice in this kind off lab? Will wireless be ok or should he keep using wired mice? Wired. They will disappear faster if they are wireless... -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/ -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: G5 Disk restore
On Fri, 16 Apr 2010 20:53:30 -0500, John Carmonne carmo...@aol.com wrote: On Apr 14, 2010, at 2:54 PM, John Carmonne wrote: I obtained another Leopard install disk and reinstalled the sysem on the G4 and G5 PPC and the Disk Utility is not workig with the restore function. The original one (a retail Leopard box set) does'nt work either on the PPC side. Why me?? Are all your cables tight? Try replacing the ethernet cables with known-good ones. If that doesn't work try a different switch if you use one. -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/ -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: OT; Apple in negotiation with AMD ?
On Fri, 16 Apr 2010 23:39:43 -0500, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio fluxstrin...@gmail.com wrote: Some here will not like this. Some will dismiss it. Just as Intel rumors were often dismissed. http://blogs.zdnet.com/computers/?p=2162tag=nl.e589 Oh i would love Apple to go to AMD. Really it isn't a very big switch though. -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/ -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Tempermental PowerMac G3
On Tue, 13 Apr 2010 00:05:06 -0500, Mark Sokolovsky coolmar...@gmail.com wrote: Why are you using a 40GB HDD when the limit is 32GB? is this PM G3 BW or beige? I have a beige PM G3 and it works ok with a 30GB HDD, and i installed tiger on it though a PM G4, and i plugged in the HDD. The bong noise comes on, but the screen is black after i turn it on.any help would be appreciated. Well the 40GB drive worked perfectly all last sumer. I did jumper it back to 32GB just to be safe though and that seems to be working. and its a BW. By the way, get your own thread. -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/ -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list To unsubscribe, reply using remove me as the subject.
Re: OT: Wifi antenna - help please!
On Tue, 13 Apr 2010 19:19:07 -0500, Jonas Ulrich jonasulrich3...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I'm trying to get a wireless connection to go about a mile. There will be no trees or anything in the way, I will have the antennas up high enough. I know nothing about this really, so any advice would be great. Thanks! -Jonas Try the Cantenna! (just google it :D) Quite simply made, and if you want a larger collector you cna use an old satalite :D -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/ -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list To unsubscribe, reply using remove me as the subject.
Re: BW G3 Rev 1: Main HD in Zip slot?
On Apr 11, 9:44 am, Ruffin rufw...@gmail.com wrote: ... but having that slave hard drive in the zip slot being my boot drive? Let's go ahead and assume I don't care about hard drive speed at all. Anything wrong (or better?) with putting the HD on master and moving the optical drive to slave? Yeah, there is a major problem as the controller can't boot from hard drives on that bus. Source: http://lowendmac.com/ppc/blue-white-power-mac-g3.html Referring to the G3 Rev.1 from the page: A common suggestion in the old days was to put the hard drive on the 16.7 MBps ATA-3 bus used by the optical drive, but the Rev. 1 motherboard doesn't support booting from hard drives on that bus. See the Wikipedia article about the Blue White G3 for a lot more information about Rev. 1 failings. -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/ -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list To unsubscribe, reply using remove me as the subject.
Tempermental PowerMac G3
My PowerMac here is going crazy. First thing that happened was i couldn't boot into OS9, so i tried booting the OS9 CD i have (that i installed with) and it wouldn't boot. Then it started being really unstable in OSX (kernelpanics, but i couldn't find a kext in the crash log) so I tried reinstalling OSX, but it crashed during the install. Any help would be greatly appreciated! -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/ -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list To unsubscribe, reply using remove me as the subject.
Re: Tempermental PowerMac G3
On Sun, 11 Apr 2010 20:47:16 -0500, Bill Connelly billycarm...@verizon.net wrote: How old is your PRAM battery? Brand new -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/ -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list To unsubscribe, reply using remove me as the subject.
Re: Tempermental PowerMac G3
On Sun, 11 Apr 2010 21:13:30 -0500, JOHN CARMONNE carmo...@aol.com wrote: On Apr 11, 2010, at 5:50 PM, Kasey Smith wrote: Can you boot the machine with TDM or an external drive? Nope, the BW G3s cant do TDM. If not I would disconnect every cable and remove the PRAM battery along with the memory. Wait 30 mins then hold down the CUDA switch for 15 seconds then reinstall 1 stick of ram and the battery and 1 hard drive in the forward bay and go from there. Forward bay? i don't think where the drive is installed matters, theres only one cable in there... Also already tried the reset procedure D: JOHN CARMONNE Yorba Linda USA Sent from my TiBook 800 -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/ -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list To unsubscribe, reply using remove me as the subject.
Re: Tempermental PowerMac G3
On Sun, 11 Apr 2010 23:40:32 -0500, Bill Connelly billycarm...@verizon.net wrote: Did someone ask if you can boot from the OS 9 CD? No, i said that i couldn't. The machine booted from the CD before and my two iMacs and the G3 AIO can boot from it. I'll have to mess with this more tomorrow after school... -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/ -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list To unsubscribe, reply using remove me as the subject.
Re: Ext 500 Gb USB Drive Issues on 450 MHz G4
On Fri, 09 Apr 2010 23:12:31 -0500, Kris Tilford ktilfo...@cox.net wrote: On Apr 9, 2010, at 10:59 PM, Jonas Lopez wrote: BUT as you pointed out, a USB XHD will not start up. NOW, is there any USB XHD that does NOT have their own power supply and so can start up? These external USB HDs WILL boot. You must attach the HD prior to booting and have it fully powered up prior to starting the Mac. Hold the Option key at startup to select the USB drive. You can also select the USB drive from Apple Startup Disk if you're booted in OS 9, but this WILL NOT work with Startup Disk in OS X. Using the Option key is the best idea. Will this work with the Summer 2000 iMacs too? -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/ -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list To unsubscribe, reply using remove me as the subject.
Re: what internet browser to use.
On Mon, 08 Mar 2010 03:02:23 -0700, Kris Tilford ktilfo...@cox.net wrote: On Mar 8, 2010, at 3:07 AM, James D. Pritchett wrote: I just got a G3 imac 333Mhz. 288Mb loaded with software for $5.00. Run's great but no software to get on the web, up's my best op. You're going to have a poor browsing experience in OS 9 most likely, but WaMCom 1.3.1 was the latest and most up-to-date of the free browsers, it's based upon Mozilla, the same a Firefox. It's nearly 7-years-old now. I believe iCab is slightly more modern, but costs $ to use, so it's not a free browser. It's free, just after 30 says it pops up a little note each time on startup :) In OS X, you need Safari, Firefox, Opera, or any of the lesser used browsers. Safari is probably your best bet since it's Apple supported for OS X. Then install OS X Tiger 10.4.11 and you'll be near the proverbial end of the road for this old iMac. OS X will run fine on 512MB, but will be a little cramped on 288MB. Also, the video chipset provides no 3D rendering or hardware acceleration on OSX due to Apple stupidity (the chipset in the Beige G3's has the same problem, and the floppy drive doesn't work.. at least on 2/3 models of the beige G3s you can put a PCI card in...) Anyway, this is a very good first Mac, its wherer i started for the little bit increased price of $35, but it was worth it :) -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/ -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: iMac G5 Capacitor Replacement?
BadCaps.net seems to be good, they carry a kit for the iMac G5. Unfortunately they dont carry one for the eMac . On Sun, 07 Mar 2010 15:38:26 -0600, Jonas Ulrich jonasulrich3...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all! I got another 20 iMac G5. This one is the powermac 8,1 model running at 1.8GHZ. After replacing the power supply it works great. However, when I was replacing the PSU, I noticed that five of it's capacitors are swelling and a few are leaking. Here are my questions: 1. Were can I buy a GOOD quality capacitor replacement kit? 2. How difficult will they be to replace? 3. Could it harm the machine to use it before replacing the capacitors? Thanks in advanced! -Jonas -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/ -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Need help with setting up G4 for internet
Our Internet here in rural Idaho is symmetrical. Its our local ISP's wireless service, the DSL here is asymmetrical though, but that doesn't matter as we cant get DSL at our house, but people no more than a quarter of a mile away can. On Fri, 05 Mar 2010 09:22:11 -0600, Dan dantear...@gmail.com wrote: At 2:23 PM -0800 3/4/2010, John Carmonne wrote: Notice there's not much help for upload probably an FCC thing to keep the licensee's pockets heavier. Nothing to do with the FCC. This is because the older copper and coax based technologies are asymmetrical -- higher bandwidth in one direction and much lower in the other. This has traditionally been ok for residential service because, until p2p and such, most customers didn't need to upload much data. eg: V.90 dialup, ADSL, DOCSIS 1 2 (coax). The ISPs reserved symmetrical services, which cost *much* more to maintain, for their business-grade customers. eg: SDSL. Newer technologies are changing all this. FTTH (Fiber to the Home) is a symmetrical service, limited only by the quality of the repeaters, routers, and backhaul. And DOCSIS 3 permits much higher upstream, so it can be configured to seem symmetrical. Pricing is, of course, simply what the market will bear, plus a giant dose of consumer and political stupidity. - Dan. -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/ -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Need help with setting up G4 for internet
Well, im glad i dont have DSL anyway, my download is only half as fast as DSL (it has 768, i have 512k) but my upload is twice as fast (256k vs 512k) so I'm happy :D On Fri, 05 Mar 2010 19:12:33 -0600, Kris Tilford ktilfo...@cox.net wrote: On Mar 5, 2010, at 4:44 PM, Kasey Smith wrote: we can't get DSL at our house, but people no more than a quarter of a mile away can. The phone companies can tell you that you're not eligible for DSL when you may be eligible. Under common carrier laws, the phone companies are supposed to share their lines with other carriers ISPs. A friend in Portland, Oregon was a lifelong AOL user, and wanted to get AOL DSL. He called AOL, and was told it wasn't available in his area, he was too far from the junction. I think his phone company was Quest or something, but he called them directly and asked if he could get their Quest DSL and they said sure, no problem. He caused a minor stink because of this, but eventually was able to get his AOL DSL setup and it worked perfectly. You may have the same scenario with the people 1/4 mile away that are getting DSL and you can't? It may be your choice of ISPs, and the phone company acts as a gatekeeper and closes the gate for anyone except themselves. -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/ -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Need help with setting up G4 for internet
On Fri, 05 Mar 2010 20:54:18 -0600, Dan dantear...@gmail.com wrote: At 7:12 PM -0600 3/5/2010, Kris Tilford wrote: On Mar 5, 2010, at 4:44 PM, Kasey Smith wrote: we can't get DSL at our house, but people no more than a quarter of a mile away can. The phone companies can tell you that you're not eligible for DSL when you may be eligible. The issue is the type of DSL service, and the length quality of the copper line. Different DSLs work over different line lengths. Plus, as Clark mentions, your copper might not necessarily take a direct route to the nearest DSLAM or CO. Then there's the quality of the line: if your line is old, it's going to be noisy - so it might not even come close to supporting decent speeds. The old lines thing might be our problem too, the house is nearly 100 years old. Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/ -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: iMovie 6
On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 7:16 AM, icanswing icansw...@aol.com wrote: Can you run all three versions of ilife on your computer as separate programs or does the newer version upgrade the older version? I'm wondering because iweb 6 can be used for ebay listings but ilife 9 has style sheets and ebay doesn't accept style sheets. I do it with iMovie 2, 3, and '05, just rename the app before installing the new one. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Need help with setting up G4 for internet
On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 10:07 AM, Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu wrote: The VAST MAJORITY of broadband access in this country is about 7 MB/s. In most of the country Broadband tops out at 12 mbps. The fastest I can get here at my house in rural Idaho is 4mb, currently we have 512kb D: -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Wireless network?
On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 5:31 PM, Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu wrote: You'll need a wifi router, or connect the ethernet port of one of the desktops to the internet, and share the internet via that computers wifi. Apple's Airport Extreme Base Station is really nice and allows connecting USB drives and printers for sharing. They're quite expensive however, compared to other offerings like Netgear or Linksys. I have a NetGear 802.11g wifi router myself that I like a lot and has prven to be quite reliable; but it's a touter only, no USB or shared devices. D-Link has a G offering with two USB2 ports, not sure if they make the exact model anymore though. Also, what Netgear do you have? I have a NetGear WPN824v2 G router with RangeMax and MIMO, and i love it. Goes a lot farther than the one provided by our ISP (Netgear WRT54g) -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: I've never seen this before??
On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 1:54 PM, Jeffrey Engle macgu...@gmail.com wrote: The only ones I'm familiar with have a big clunky white brick. This one in the picture appears to be completely different? Jeff Its the official Apple one, thats why it has the clear cables and rounded plug shrouds. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Heavy duty, feels-good keyboard for typist with a vengeance
On Sat, Feb 27, 2010 at 12:45 PM, PETER WARNER pe...@petermwarner.com wrote: Austin Leeds Well, I suppose this would be an article better addressed to one of the LEM groups for older Macs. Thanks for your input, FFF And you tried to Hijack a thread ;) ??? He was the OP... Oh, whoops! didnt notice that one, sorry lol. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: How will my computer run?
People get a kick out of what my PowerMac G3 400MHz can do (867MB RAM) On Sat, Feb 27, 2010 at 3:02 PM, Ricardo Sevilla ae86dr...@gmail.com wrote: I love getting a kick out of that as well. Nobody believes me when I show them all that my G4 can do. On Feb 27, 2010, at 10:30 AM, The M wrote: Hahaha I can't wait to show people how my what eight year old mac runs faster than my windoze machine. LOL -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: OS 9 boot CD
On Sun, Feb 28, 2010 at 8:38 AM, Ray rfy...@yahoo.com wrote: Hello. I have a G4 MDD 1.25 with FW400 and I have been looking for a long time for the original OS 9 CD that came with this computer. I have tried many different OS 9 versions but for this G4, it has to have the exact CD's that came with it to make it boot. Any help is greatly appreciated if you have this exact model. thanks __ Just grab a retail CD, its useful for other Macs too! -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Heavy duty, feels-good keyboard for typist with a vengeance
On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 8:37 PM, Austin Leeds firepowerforfree...@gmail.com wrote: Well, I suppose this would be an article better addressed to one of the LEM groups for older Macs. Thanks for your input, FFF And you tried to Hijack a thread ;) -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Connector identification assistance needed
On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 9:40 AM, Jonas Lopez jonaslo...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Caleb S. Cupples calebcupplessocial...@gmail.com Subject: Re: Connector identification assistance needed To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Date: Thursday, February 25, 2010, 5:45 AM On 24 February 2010, Jonas Lopez wrote: 4. Is it true that the Webcam should work if ONLY the USB is plugged in. y or n. 5. If I get a USB and cut the end off and splice the wires will the cam work y or n. Um, if you spliced a USB plug onto any one of those you might fry it... -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Heavy duty, feels-good keyboard for typist with a vengeance
On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 11:28 PM, Austin Leeds firepowerforfree...@gmail.com wrote: So, my question is, are there any of you out there that use keyboards in the caliber of the Apple Extended Keyboard and the IBM Model M? How do you like them, and would they be worth carrying around (with a USB adapter, of course)? Someone just posted this in another thread: http://matias.ca/tactilepro/index.php Also, Clarinovas are awesome, our school has one and it sounds so real! -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: New to Group with a G3 450 MHz BW
On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 3:18 PM, Dan dantear...@gmail.com wrote: At 10:07 AM -0800 2/24/2010, iChet wrote: I have a G3 BW Tower 450 MHz w/ 1GB RAM and SCSI HD Is this worth using ? I wanna set up a web surfer in another location from my other computers and maybe use monitoring ebay etc. The Smurf, being a G3, is a bit slow for things like Flash and h.264 video, but otherwise it's a great machine! - Dan. (on a 300-MHz Smurf). -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. Slow? more like unuseable... -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: New to Group with a G3 450 MHz BW
On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 5:47 PM, Christopher Clarke chrisclarke1...@googlemail.com wrote: The Smurf, being a G3, is a bit slow for things like Flash and h.264 video, but otherwise it's a great machine! - Dan. (on a 300-MHz Smurf). -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. Slow? more like unuseable... Actually it depends on the content, the amount of RAM in the Machine, and which OS you use. If the content is older Flash Content, or you can get it to work in a version such as Flash 7 or 8, then itll work fine on a G3. Heck, I know of a local TV station that is still using a Quadra 840av in its production environment to get stuff off video tapes... Dont need no stinking G4s xD Well, my Smurf here cant handle youtube even at 1024x768, same with H.264. It has Tiger on it and 867MB RAM, with a 40GB 7200rpm hard drive. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: When Macs go evil
On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 11:05 AM, Da'Birdman sa...@defalcos.com wrote: ROFLMAO! Don't forget the G3 iMacs that were always prominently perched on the desks in Drew Carey's office. Those were hard to miss. Also, the British spy series MI-5 features iMacs, too. Those were G4s lol, probably a typo ;) -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: DVI TO VGA MONITOR CONNECTIONS
On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 1:03 PM, John Niven sense...@yahoo.com wrote: --- On Wed, 2/24/10, stevo137 stevo...@hotmail.com wrote: Your choices are to find a Mac ADC video card (if your Mac was designed for one), or buy a non-Apple LCD with a DVI connector. Or you could buy one of those DVI-to-ADC adaptors. They plug into the DVI plug and a USB plug on the computer and then plug into the wall to for the power. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: MDD problems - questions
On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 8:05 PM, John Carmonne carmo...@aol.com wrote: If you swap it you'll lose OS9 boot capability. Did you try contact cleaner on the Ram slots? DeoxiT is a good one. Also just because the RAM works in another machine doesn't always mean it's totally good. Do you have TechTool to check with? You can also try with 1 stick and see if it runs right. Then swap slots. John Carmonne Yorba Linda USA Only if the board has FireWire 800 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Proof that Apple could not have dropped ADB support in Tiger and Leo
On Feb 21, 2010, at 11:36 PM, Mike Linnett wrote: Also, for what it's worth, my blue and white g3 running tiger works just fine with an apple extended keyboard (possibly 2) plugged into it's adb port. Same for me with both an ADB Keyboard II, ADB Mouse II and Apple Design Keyboard. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Hidden Remote Webcam activation is it in Firmware, HD, or PRAM?
On Feb 21, 2010, at 10:08 AM, Dan wrote: Bottom line: Whenever you get your paws on a used computer or HD, ERASE the HD! -- -- You don't know, and you don't need to care. Just ERASE the HDs. Use Disk Utility. Tell it to zero the drive with at least one pass. Done. -- Just ERASE the HD. - Dan. Please erase the hard drive before Dan explodes! -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Hard drive issues with a MDD 1.25
I've heard that the big thing in Leo is Spaces, and its something i wish Tiger had. On Feb 21, 2010, at 4:48 PM, Jake Zeppa wrote: Thanks for the idea. I gave it a try but no luck. I'm also getting a Keys Out Of Order warning now from Disk utility. I also gave the FSCK command trick a try, and ran it multiple times without luck. I have a feeling I'm left with one option, formatting, and installing a new OS. Diskwarrior at $100 seems a bit steep at the moment, and if I had to spend the money, I'd put it to OS 10.5. The good news is transferring data via TDM (over firewire) seems to work just fine (no errors so far). On a side note, since 10.4 and 10.5 cost the same used, what are the pro's and cons of each on my dual 1.25 MDD (1gb of ram)? I read I may take a slight hit in performance, but is this all, and haw big of one? Does 10.5 offer me anything useful 10.4 wouldn't other than giving the computer a slightly longer usable life? Thanks again everyone. Jake -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Proof that Apple could not have dropped ADB support in Tiger and Leo
It would be hard for Apple to have dropped ADB because, according to this wikipedia article, the PowerBooks and iBooks up to 2005 (when Tiger was released) used ADB for the keyboard and trackpad. I just posted this because i had read somewhere on a page about the Grififn iMate that Apple had dropped ADB support in Tiger and up. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Proof that Apple could not have dropped ADB support in Tiger and Leo
On Feb 21, 2010, at 7:38 PM, Bob Whiton wrote: At 6:54 PM -0700 2/21/10, Kasey Smith wrote: It would be hard for Apple to have dropped ADB because, according to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_desktop_busthis wikipedia article, the PowerBooks and iBooks up to 2005 (when Tiger was released) used ADB for the keyboard and trackpad. I just posted this because i had read somewhere on a page about the Grififn iMate that Apple had dropped ADB support in Tiger and up. Wrong. My 2004 iBook only has USB and Firewire. I've never seen a G4 Mac with ADB. Check the Apple web site for machine specs, not Wikipedia. Bob It didn't have an external ADB plug, it was purely to run the internal keyboard and trackpad. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Hidden Remote Webcam activation is it in Firmware, HD, or PRAM?
On Feb 21, 2010, at 10:49 PM, Bill Christensen wrote: At 5:01 PM -0500 2/21/10, Samuel Macomber wrote: with a sledgehammer.Actually I usually take the drive apart, those magnets work great on the fridge. Than smash the remains. Found laptop drive are the best for protecting your data, the platters are plastic so they shatter into a gazillion little pieces. Some of the 3.5s have plastic platters too. My 8 year old son periodically spends a couple hours taking apart dead drives from my ever-growing collection, and he managed to shatter the platter on one just last week. I don't recall which brand it was but it was large enough that it was probably less than 5 years old. -- Bill Christensen http://greenbuilder.com/contact/ Im wondering how plastic platters hold data as hard drives are a magnetic based storage medium o.O -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Proof that Apple could not have dropped ADB support in Tiger and Leo
On Feb 21, 2010, at 10:08 PM, Clark Martin wrote: On 2/21/10 7:18 PM, Kasey Smith wrote: On Feb 21, 2010, at 7:38 PM, Bob Whiton wrote: It didn't have an external ADB plug, it was purely to run the *internal* keyboard and trackpad. My G4 iBook running Leopard shows no USB devices, either in System Profiler or USB Prober. It does however have the following files in /System/Library/Extensions: AppleADBButtons.kext AppleADBKeyboard.kext AppleADBMouse.kext I find the ADBButtons.kext quite interesting... i wonder if the kexts for the touchpad and buttons are separate or if its another device... -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Apple 23 Cinema Display questions
On Feb 20, 2010, at 12:13 PM, Mark Sokolovsky wrote: I have an Dell IN1910N 19 monitor, and it runs fine on a GeForce 6600. It even runs ok on an ATI RAGE128 PRO. Trust me, it is probably the best you can get when it comes to bang for the buck, quality, and size. In my opinion, the display only looks he best at the maximum screen resolution the monitor supports. Anything lower won't look with as good sharpness and quality because it's not taking advantage of all of the pixels the screen has. Hehe, i drove my off-brand 21 LCD (16:10) with a Rage 128 Pro, only thing is Exposé isn't as pretty as it is on my 15 LCD (4:3) -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: ibook G3 help
On Feb 20, 2010, at 1:01 AM, Mark Sokolovsky wrote: I have the same exact laptop as you do, and I know what to do. Are you sure it is an apple supported hard drive? Most power macs don't just take any hard drive to run on. It has to be a specific hard drive that is compatible specifically with your iBook. Also, did you check the IDE controller card i know this may sound impossible, but there is a possibility that there is something wrong with the IDE controller card, or it's because the IDE controller card doesn't support larger capacities like that. Keep in mind that they shipped with 3.2GB hard drives, and on a power mac G4 graphite AGP graphics they shipped with 40 GB Hard drives, but they only supported up to 127GB of HDD space. If the way i am thinking is correct, there may be a very slight possibility that your ibook doesn't even support 15GB hard drives. I am only trying to help and list the possibilities. Erm, hard drives for the PowerMac G3/4 computers only need to be PATA. You can partition a 160GB drive down to 128GB and it will work fine, same thing happened to my windows laptop (from 2005!) but linux saw the whole drive, hmm winXP bug... -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Remote webcam activation prevention or not if stolen?
On Feb 20, 2010, at 8:16 AM, Jonas Lopez wrote: I suspect unplug the cam will fix the pix and sound problem, unless your actually using it - then who is watching - will Little Snitch be your friend? Erm, the webcams cable is inside the macbook? I think i piece of tape fixes this ;) -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Seeking editors or contributors for PPC Applications Web Site
Cool site, except for the McAfee antivirus ad. However, this email was what i would consider spam and its also got bad grammar... -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Apple 23 Cinema Display questions
On Feb 20, 2010, at 3:20 PM, Mark Sokolovsky wrote: you are right about the expose thing, casey smith. expose isn't really smooth on my monitor either, unless i get a video card upgrade. Grr, people always spell my name wrong! D: -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Question: What Are They?
On Feb 18, 2010, at 10:24 PM, Charles Lenington wrote: Kasey Smith wrote: On Jan 31, 2010, at 9:43 PM, Dana Collins wrote: more than likely, your cables were issued with an older PC right at the transition period into USB. Or the device itself, and PC still hasn't made it out of PS/2... in case you still wonder... is this it? http://www.geeks.com/details.asp?invtid=BLK-USBTP2PPS2cat=KYB I actually have a Belkin branded one of these, looks exectly the same. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Digital Audio upgrades
On Feb 19, 2010, at 11:28 AM, Austin Leeds wrote: Quad G4 (is it possible to take the two G4s off the other Mac and stack them into the Leopard candidate?) Even if it were possible, Leo still wouldn't run. Only thing i can think of to get a quad G4 is to get three of those dual-CPU ZIF-slot adaptors for the G3 earlier G4 PowerMacs, but i seriously doubt that this would work. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: ibook G3 help
On Feb 19, 2010, at 9:53 AM, Richard Gerome wrote: Did you install any other OS like Jaguar, Panther or Tiger??? What you need to do is hold down the C key before you boot it up and make sure the disc is cleaned off too with no scratches, then try doing the install... I have 3 Clamshells and I have done this with running Jaguar and OS 9.2.2 and I load OS 9 first doing a clean install then I would run the 2 disc's for Jaguar the same way and it never erased 9 (I even think I did this the other way around doing Jag first and it still put both OS's in?) I would do the install again and make it a clean install so it cleans anything that might have been installed the first time... Good Luck!!! Yeah, you can install OS9 after OSX. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: running OS 9.2 from a folder vs a partition.
On Feb 19, 2010, at 6:26 PM, deadwinter wrote: Oh, I used a Quadra in school. I haven't forgotten (or forgiven) System 7. Anyway, the point (if there is one) of this G3 exercise of mine is to squeeze performance out of this poor thing. I want to establish if the way it's setup now would make a difference, performance wise. To be clear, I don't use Classic from 10.2. I set it up to boot from the OS9 system folder. Would this be less performant(sic?) than having its own partition, or is the real difference that OS9 could take the whole disk with it if it crashed? ...and on the heels of that, another question. Does this sort of thing make a difference when you're installing, say, a PCI FW/USB card? If this is a BW G3 install Tiger, it's worth it :) Also, my USB card works on both OS'es on my G3 BW (has the NEC chipset) but because of some limitation it won't work with OS9 on my Molar Mac (beige G3 with built in monitor, think huge white iMac.) I'm not sure about OSX and the card on that machine though... -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Translate an Appleworks file .cwk to iWork on an iMac
On Feb 17, 2010, at 11:31 PM, Jane, (Portland, OR) wrote: Excel will also do databases besides spreadsheets. So I was hoping that the same would be true with iWork. I didn't know that, thats what i thought Access was for :\ -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Dark Grey Screen???
On Feb 18, 2010, at 7:31 AM, Richard Gerome wrote: This is a first for me??? When I booted up my computer this morning the whole screen turned a dark grey with a view of my desktop in the back ground and a white window with black letters (everything went black and white) came up asking me to restart the computer holding down the start button for a few seconds??? Does anyone out there know what this means??? I've been planning on doing a clean and reinstall soon because I bought this computer used a yr ago and it still has the orig owner as the admin, I just got a new Tiger install disc to do it... Thanks!!! It's called a Kernel Panic. Look on console to see what caused it, usually its drivers for me, or plugging in corrupt USB drives... -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: G4 Power Mac OSX10.3 / classic with OS9.2.1
On Feb 18, 2010, at 11:25 AM, Liam Proven wrote: [3] Tiger: I would recommend this strongly. It is a little bigger and slower than Panther, but some of the new facilities, such as Exposé and Dashboard are rather good. Actually, these days, 10.4 is pretty Just some info, but Panther has Exposé already ;) -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: G4 Power Mac OSX10.3 / classic with OS9.2.1
On Feb 18, 2010, at 6:10 PM, Liam Proven wrote: On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 10:42 PM, Kasey Smith kasm...@gmail.com wrote: On Feb 18, 2010, at 11:25 AM, Liam Proven wrote: [3] Tiger: I would recommend this strongly. It is a little bigger and slower than Panther, but some of the new facilities, such as Exposé and Dashboard are rather good. Actually, these days, 10.4 is pretty Just some info, but Panther has Exposé already ;) Oops! Er, Dashboard and Spotlight, then. TBH, myself, Spotlight is the only one I really use. Spotlight I use many times a day, Exposé once a season and Dashboard only when demoing the machine... Lol, i use Exposé all the time, dashboard a bit (for iStat Pro) and almost never use spotlight. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: PowerMac G5 PMU weirdness
On Feb 17, 2010, at 3:15 PM, Eric Volker wrote: the G5 would get to the spinning wheel (is there an official name for that?) Sorry i can't help with the real issue, but that is called the throbber. (Who knows why?) -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: DL DVD burning
On Feb 17, 2010, at 8:07 PM, Bill Connelly wrote: On Feb 17, 2010, at 10:02 PM, JOHN CARMONNE wrote: You got nothin' to lose:-) Except maybe rendering it useless? or am I thinking too much? I'm now trying to copy the 2 exe files from a CD to my Compaq's harddrive ... lol why is this so hard? I keep getting alias-es ... or shortcuts oh well ... such is a PC ... OS9 does this with USB drives, not sure about CDs thoguh. Try dragging them with your right mouse button and clicking copy here -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: iMac G5 iSight, freezes, kernal Panics, mouse/keyboard goes dead at times
On Feb 15, 2010, at 11:35 PM, Mullin9 wrote: What causes my iMac G5 iSight to freezes, have kernal Panics, and have my mouse/keyboard goes dead at times? I ve tried resetting PRAM, reinstalling Mac OS 10.4.2, updating to 10.4.11, I still have these problems. I'm assuming wired keyboard and mouse? -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: [G3-5]Re: Beige Desktop Ram Question
On Feb 15, 2010, at 3:38 AM, MaGioZal wrote: On 2/9/10 7:38 PM, Kris Tilford at ktilfo...@cox.net wrote: Also, in my mind there isn't really room for an ATA card in a Beige. With only three PCI slots, you need one for the Radeon video card, one for a USB card, and one for a Firewire card. If you boot OS 9, the USB card MUST be an OHCI USB 1.1 card, which means that for OS X you'll probably want a combo card with USB 2.0 Firewire 400 in one card. Well, I think it is not *exactly* that way...;-) The most important thing to remember is that non-VIA USB 2.0 PCI cards (like the NEC I am using here) will do work on Mac OS 9, because these cards are backward-compatible. Obviously there is no support for high-speed data transfers under OS 9, but the card and the ports will work normally as USB 1.1. And AFAIK, non-VIA FireWire-USB combo cards are compatible Mac OS 9, too. Yeah, I have a USB2 card here in my PowerMac thats all black and has an NEC chipset. Works fine in OS9 on the BW but not on the Molar Mac (beige G3) -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: [G3-5]Re: Why are you (still) using PowerPC-based Macs?
On Feb 14, 2010, at 9:53 PM, MaGioZal wrote: On 1/23/10 10:41 AM, Mac User #330250 at macuser330...@gmx.net wrote: My experience is different, since all the Macs I have make a lot of noise. The most silent Power Mac I own is the G5 Late 2005 which has liquid cooling (even though it is the 2.0 GHz single processor (Dual Core) model -- I've read contrary information at everymac.com about the cooling system). Well, my Beige G3 is quite silent, mainly now when it has a 80GB ATA Maxtor HD. The former HD, a 9.1GB Ultra-SCSI IBM, oinked like a mad pig. :-P The iMac DV is quieter :P -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: [G3-5]Re: Why are you (still) using PowerPC-based Macs?
On Feb 14, 2010, at 10:38 PM, MaGioZal wrote: On 1/24/10 1:55 PM, Dan at dantear...@gmail.com wrote: Not crazy about the iMac G4 design (too many with limp necks). But I really like the rest of the iMac designs over the years. Very cool. sigh. Now if only they were easier to repair. Good industrial design should, IMO, include easy-open / access features. Yea, I know - Jobs is anti-user upgrade. But geeze - 90% of the bench time should NOT be taken up by just opening and closing a machine! Apple is somehow schizo in its CPU designs: or it made them VERY EASY to open and upgrade (Centris 660/PowerMac 6100, LC I/II/III/Performa 475, PowerMac 8600/PowerMac Beige G3, Mac G4 Cube, Blue and White G3 and all other minitower CPUs before the G5) or TERRIBILY DIFFICULT to open and upgrade (the original 128k and all other compact all-in-one Macs based on it, the Quadra 840/PowerMac8100/PowerMac 8500, the PowerMac 4400/7220 series, all iMacs in general, MacMinis). The iMac G3 slot-loaders arent hard to open, not as easy as the PowerMacs, but a lot easier than the tray loaders... -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: printing problem
On Feb 15, 2010, at 4:36 AM, Kris Tilford wrote: On Feb 15, 2010, at 5:02 AM, t...@nehaia.dk wrote: the cable was in, but not all the way now it works again - big thanks for pointing me to the obvious When stuff I have stops working, I look for my cats. They know exactly what they did, but they never confess anything. If you have cats, look no further for the culprit. I keep the cables tied up and away from my cat ;) -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: [G3-5]Re: Beige Desktop Ram Question
On Feb 15, 2010, at 12:01 PM, Kris Tilford wrote: On Feb 15, 2010, at 11:14 AM, Kasey Smith wrote: Yeah, I have a USB2 card here in my PowerMac thats all black and has an NEC chipset. Works fine in OS9 on the BW but not on the Molar Mac (beige G3). Yes, and I now remember WHY that is. The Beige Macs had an earlier implementation of the PCI bus, and when USB 2.0 came along everyone had moved onto a newer PCI bus standard. The BW was the 1st Mac to get the newer PCI bus, and this is why some cards work in the BW and newer Macs but fail in the Beige and earlier. There is no solution. That would not explain it though as the card works fine in OSX on the beige mac ;) -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Mac Mini G4 with double hard drive a possible solution?
On Feb 13, 2010, at 2:09 AM, Nicholas Fantuzzi wrote: The chinese seller guaranteed me that this item perfectly works with a C2D Mac Mini 1.83GHz..so I think that the problem is of the G4 system. Now I'm waiting for other adapter that he's going to ship to me. Doesn't the C2D Mini already have SATA? -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Slightly OT: Overheating Iomega Minimax
I wouldn't trust it with valuable data. With the enclosure you can put about anything it if its PATA/SATA (whatever the thing has.) You could even put a card reader in it :D On Feb 13, 2010, at 11:38 AM, Eric Volker wrote: For years I used an Iomega Minimax 500GB with my Mac mini. It worked fairly well, but always made lots of noise leading one friend to declare it defective. Since I've now sold the Mac mini, I decided to put it to other uses. In the middle of writing several GB it just vanished off the desktop. I picked up the Minimax and nearly burned myself it was so hot. After cooling off it resumed working, but I didn't trust it. Since the hard drive was in an enclosure, I couldn't get a SMART status from it. So I disassembled the enclosure, extracted the hard drive and popped it in my Powermac G5. It passed the basic SMART verification, but when I ran a SMART diagnostic tool I got a drive failing status. The failing part is that the drive had overheated (obviously), but also that it had 10 reallocated sectors. Here's the question: Now that it's out of the blast furnace, is the drive safe to use? Or is it best destined for the trash bin? Also, could I use a slower, cooler drive in the old enclosure? Thanks, Eric -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Mac Mini G4 with double hard drive a possible solution?
We are talking laptop-style hard drives, not desktop ones. Also, i don't think a PCI card will work in a mini ;) On Feb 12, 2010, at 11:08 AM, carmo...@aol.com wrote: In a message dated 2/12/10 9:54:03 AM, pdim...@btinternet.com writes: On 12/2/10 15:54, Nicholas Fantuzzi snii...@gmail.com wrote: Did you read the previous mails? First of all, a 500GB PATA drive doesn't exist at all, secondly I have a 500GB SATA drive. Doesn't exist? What's this then? http://tiny.cc/CjJMm Pete Nicholas I Have a 500GB WD PATA hard drive in my G4 MDD Dual 1.25 Power Mac Along with 2 Seagate 250 GB PAPTA. I would have to buy a card to put SATA drives in the machine. I think if you have 2 HDDs in that machine the PATA should be jumpered to cable select. If you connect the 500 via Firewire does the machine see it? John Carrmonne Yorba Linda USA -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Need info
the new versions of Skype will not work on a G3 processor, they wont even launch because they depend on the AltiVec in the G4 CPU. On Feb 12, 2010, at 2:39 PM, Wm. Arnold wrote: Do any of you on this list use or tried Skype ? Will it work between Windoz Mac ? Thanks -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/ group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: RAM Upgrade for Quicksilver
Yeah, the M is for Micron. They are actually based here in Idaho :D (i get excited because Idaho is never mentioned.. anywhere) On Feb 12, 2010, at 6:38 PM, Albert Carter wrote: All, I have a Quicksilver it was originally a 733 Mhz one but when I bought it someone had upgraded it to 933Mhz. Its running 1.25 GB RAM. I recently got a deal on the lowendmac swap list for another 512 MB RAM. I inserted it into the 1st RAM Slot and removed the 256 MB Stick that was in it. When I restarted I get 3 beeps and no video. I'm like ok this is supposed to be good RAM. I then placed it in the 3rd Slot and the Macintosh booted as normal but didn't recognize the memory. I have looked around and people talk about CL (CAS Latency) and Low vs High Density Memory so I'm wondering if the RAM is good but just doesn't meet the specs. Information on RAM: Crucial RAM: 512MB 168-PIN DIMM 64Mx64 SDRA (from my understanding 64Mx64 is Low Density). This is the information on the Crucial Sticker. Information on the tag with an M with a circle going through it (Micron?) says the follow: MT16LSDT6464AY013D2 200703 CNCFLJ001 COUNTRY OF ORIGIN SINGAPORE LEAD FREE PC133U-222-542-Z 512MB, SYNCH, 133MHz, CL2 All my other RAM says CL3. I was wondering if this computer can only use CL3 Memory. If it can I wanted to find out if a true Quicksilver Dual 1.0Ghz can run CL2 Memory (if so I'll keep this as I just got one with processor and motherboard and plan on moving over to that. Thank You, Albert -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: SeaMonkey 2.02
I like Opera over here for my windows and linux boxes. I use Safari on my mac because its fast on 400MHz. On Feb 11, 2010, at 12:26 AM, Michael G.M. wrote: Been using SeaMonkey since 1.x (A couple years probably) as my main Mac browser and e-mail client. Yes, I have upgraded to 2.02 and it's pretty cool. It doesn't have the Edit/Fill in forms function anymore, but I can live without it. Version 1.1.18 was and is extremely buggy.- I'm glad we've moved on. Anyway, I think it's highly under-rated for the Mac and it's quite stable, however, I sometimes get a little off track with all the settings. The plug-ins manager is a very welcome addition and upgrade. I guess Opera is about the same, but I just can't get into it and the community seems like a cult. (Sorry, it just seems that way with all the photo uploading and community stuff to lock you in.) I think the world of web browsers would be a lonely place without SeaMonkey. Like I've said before about SM: It's gone the extra mile when other browsers would not. Of course, you'll still need Safari and/or Firefox for some sites :P Oh well. -Mike On Feb 10, 6:05 pm, Joan Duncan jn...@q.com wrote: Does anyone here use SeaMonkey? If so, have you upgraded to 2.02? I tried at 2.01 and was appalled by my experience (can't really remember what didn't work now). How do you find it? Mac G4, dual 367, 2GB DDR -- Joan Duncan, ASID Interior Architecture Design (o) 575.751.3030 (c) 575.770.4252 (f) 575.751.3434www.acreatrix.com -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: 2 macs-1 monitor?
On Feb 11, 2010, at 2:49 PM, McGrude wrote: On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 1:47 PM, Jeffrey Engle macgu...@gmail.com wrote: Just a question here... and I believe that I'm right in saying that this will not work, but here goes my monitor has VGA DVI connections, can these be used to hook up 2 macs? and simply switch between the two via the monitor buttons on the front? It will work. I've done it with several monitors. My current 20 LCD has VGA and DVI. My PC is connected to VGA and the Mac to DVI. I press the input button and it switches to the other input. Works like a charm. I wonder if this is possible on a monitor without an input button... My 21 LCD has both inputs but no visible way to swap them, unless its automatic. Unfortunately i dont have a computer with DVI to test my theory... -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: SeaMonkey 2.02
On Feb 11, 2010, at 9:19 AM, Bruce Johnson wrote: On Feb 11, 2010, at 9:10 AM, Michael G.M. wrote: Composer, I don't use half as much as I'd like - Excellent tool! If you like it, check out KompoZer, which is based on the Mozilla Composer code, but extended considerably to a pretty powerful web authoring tool. http://kompozer.net/ Hehe, i have KompoZer here. Also, iCab is only good on OS9 for me. Even then it always locks up when it tries to digest java... -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: 2 macs-1 monitor?
On Feb 11, 2010, at 3:50 PM, McGrude wrote: I wonder if this is possible on a monitor without an input button... My 21 LCD has both inputs but no visible way to swap them, unless its automatic. Unfortunately i dont have a computer with DVI to test my theory... Probably not. Is there an on screen display for monitor settings? Is there an input choice in there? I don't see one... The thing was about $150 and it has quite the nice color and contrast so at least I'm lucky there :D -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: 2 macs-1 monitor?
On Feb 11, 2010, at 3:57 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote: On Feb 11, 2010, at 2:47 PM, Jeffrey Engle wrote: Just a question here... and I believe that I'm right in saying that this will not work, but here goes my monitor has VGA DVI connections, can these be used to hook up 2 macs? and simply switch between the two via the monitor buttons on the front? Yes, with a caveat...some (mostly quite older) macs need to think they're connected to a monitor before they'll properly boot. Not the PowerMac G3 BW. Can't speak for the beige ones as mine has a built in monitor. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: [G3-5]Re: Removing Open Superdrive from top menu
Navigate to SystemLibraryCoreServicesMenu Extras and double click Eject.menu I'm on tiger myself too! On Feb 11, 2010, at 5:27 PM, MaGioZal wrote: On 1/21/10 10:48 PM, Kris Tilford at ktilfo...@cox.net wrote: Hold the Command key and drag it off the menu bar. It goes poof and disappears. Well... I'm running 10.4 now and just want the opposite: to add the eject menu... Any guess? -- MaGioZal. http://twitter.com/magiozal/ -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/ group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: low density RAM?
Nope, its Dual Density. On Feb 10, 2010, at 6:37 AM, Geke wrote: The bottom line first: If a 512MB PC133 SDRAM RAM module for the G4 Digital Audio has chips on one side of the stick only, can it be low-density? Thanks in advance! Geke History of this case: My G4 DA had 3 RAM sticks: 128, 256, and 512MB. I wanted to increase the RAM and bought a 512MB stick. It didn’t work. Then I asked here what I had missed, and the conclusion was that I should have bought low-density RAM. (Searching the group for RAM digital will find that thread in 2nd position; for some reason I can’t add to it anymore.) Then I bought a low-density stick, and it’s working fine. I was happy! Then I thought: why not max out the RAM? So I bought another 512MB stick, this time from a different company -- the first offer was not available anymore. But this stick, even though it’s advertised as low- density, has chips only on one side, and it doesn’t work. (I tried it in all three slots.) Now I want to complain to the company that they have sent me a wrong stick, but first I want to be certain that it really can’t be a low-density one. There’s almost nothing printed on the chips, only two lines like this: 64x8SDRAM P 0810 and, vertically, something looking like a batch number that varies from chip to chip: 8XJY 889H 8XK2 8XL8 5YJB F7JB 8ZBQ 9348 For completeness, the description they give on ebay: 512MB 168PIN PC133 SDRAM LOW DENSITY 133MHZ 512 PC 133 Product Details: • 168-pin unbuffered DIMM • Density: LOW DENSITY • PC133 133FSB • 3.3 Volts • 6 Layer unbuffered • CAS Latency 3 • 4 Bank • Off-chip driver (OCD) impedance adjustment, and on die termination (ODT) Technical Information: Memory Size: 512MB SDRAM 168Pin Number: 1 x 512MB Memory Speed: 133Mhz More Information: 512MB x 1 Non ECC Non Registered UnBuffered 6 Layer Non Parity -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Mozilla Firefox
Nope, we will still use Safari, Opera, Camino... the list goes on. On Feb 10, 2010, at 12:39 AM, Stephen Conrad wrote: Mozilla announced they will drop tiger for future Firefox releases. So, will Tiger using folks be forced to move up to Leopard? -- Steve Conrad Henrietta, MO 64036 The time has come for mankind to grow up and leave its cradle behind; to go forth and claim our place in outer space. - Capt. Henry Gloval (\__/) (='.'=) ()_() Help Bunny Take Over The World! -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Mozilla Firefox
On Feb 10, 2010, at 4:50 AM, Kris Tilford wrote: On Feb 10, 2010, at 4:46 AM, Evan Thomas wrote: Very happy with Firefox 3.5.2. You should update to 3.5.7 for the bug and security fixes; or 3.6 which is the current GM version. I think 3.6 has one really nice new feature, that is new tabs open next to the active tab rather than at the far right. This keeps child tabs next to their parent, rather than separated at the far right. Flock, which is based on FireFox 2, has had this for a long time. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
RE: Beige Desktop Ram Question
-Original Message- From: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com [mailto:g3-5-l...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Gorka L Martinez Mezo Sent: Tuesday, February 09, 2010 1:59 PM To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Beige Desktop Ram Question 768 MB total is the max, three 256 MB sticks of low-density PC66, PC100, or PC133 SDRAM DIMM. The 233Mhz Beige G3 desktop I recently resurrected (by simply changing the PRAM battery!) has one 256, one 128 and one 32mb DIMMs since at least 2005 (when it was used for the last time). I have two others 256Mb DIMMs I plan to use as soon has I have time again to tinker with this old machine. BTW, I found it SLOW. It`s running Mac OS 9,1 and has one 40Mb IBM DeathStar HD built in 2001 replacing the original 4Mb unit supplied with the machine. I think you mean 4GB and 40GB. My G3 here also has a 40GB in it :D -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Transfering files
Firewire or use ethernet. For firewire, you need to boot the G4 into Target Disk Mode (hold T on boot.) The G3 might have TDM if its an iMac, all the other G3s (desktops, not sure about laptops) don't have it. For ethernet, you want to plug them into a router or whatever, turn file sharing on on one of them, and access it with the other. On Feb 8, 2010, at 6:43 AM, stevo137 wrote: I want to transfer files from a g3 to a g4. Do I just need a firewire? Or do i need software too? -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: SSD
On Feb 4, 2010, at 12:14 AM, Robert Towsley wrote: On Feb 3, 2010, at 11:29 PM, Kasey Smith wrote: *snip* Re read the specs. Mac Compatibility Power Mac G4 (all models except Cube and Mirrored Drive Doors) Power Mac G5 (with PCI or PCI-X slots) Mac OS® X Version 10.5, 10.4, or 10.3 Don't know why it does not support the MDD Len Oops, misread that. Anyway, im wondering while it wont work in a G3... Probably because G3's do not natively support anything above 10.2.8 ?= Um, what? Lets go through the 10.2 checklist... its got a G3, good. 10.3 checklist, G3, built in USB, good. 10.4 checklist, G3, built in USB, built in firewire... -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: SSD
I bet you were thinking of the beige G3, Robert. I have one here thats the infamous all-in-one and its horrible on OSX, so i keep it running OS9. On Feb 4, 2010, at 12:30 AM, Clark Martin wrote: On 2/3/10 11:14 PM, Robert Towsley wrote: Probably because G3's do not natively support anything above 10.2.8 ?= Except 10.3 and 10.4. I've installed both on a BW G3 with no problem. And no XPostFacto or other tricks. 10.3 and 10.4 natively support the BW G3. -- Clark Martin Redwood City, CA, USA Macintosh / Internet Consulting I'm a designated driver on the Information Super Highway -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Adding a second monitor
Thats not entirely true, my Mac here with dual screens didn't slow down at all, and the second card actually ran faster than the one in the graphics-dedicated PCI slot (both cards are Rage 128 cards, the main one has a DVD decoder) On Feb 4, 2010, at 8:57 AM, Bruce Johnson wrote: On Feb 4, 2010, at 12:38 AM, Ricardo Sevilla wrote: Oh cool. I have the adc connector on the other side of the card. But if I connected an ADC monitor to it would it slow the computer down? I would figure that an extra PCI video card driving another monitor would run faster right? No, it'll actually slow the computer down, since it's using the slower PCI bus. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Plz help with printing over network.
On Feb 4, 2010, at 6:39 PM, Arnel Tuazon wrote: Hi folks, My setup: Computer 1: PPC G5 running Leopard with an Epson Stylus CX4450 printer. Computer 2: BW G4 running Tiger Airport Extreme Base Station: Brother Laser printer connected to it via USB Network: I was updated by my ISP with their latest DSL modem recently. Now their version of a DSL modem is not just a modem but also a 4 port wireless router (I disabled the wireless feature). I also have an Airport Extreme base station because the previous modem I had only had 1 port. I wanted to keep using the Airport base station because I can connect our laser printer to it via USB. So I connected the Airport station to the new DSL modem/router. Everything works just fine. I have 2 other computers (aside from the G5) connected to the Airport and all 3 can print to the laser printer. My problem: Since the Airport only has 3 ports and all are being used, the BW was left out of the party. I decided to connect the BW to the DSL modem/router (it had 3 other ports available). The BW has full internet access BUT it can not print to the laser printer. I also wanted to print to the G5 which is sharing it's Epson Stylus printer. The other 2 computers connected to Airport can print to the Epson BUT again the BW can not. So, to sum it all up: Airport Base Station connected to DSL modem/router. G5 along with 2 other computers connected to Airport Base Station. BW connected to DSL modem/router. Laser printer connected to Airport via USB. Epson Stylus connected to G5 and is set to share. None of the computers are wireless. Is there a way for the BW to printer to the Airport Base Station and/or print to the G5? Thanks in advance! Make sure you have Assign IP Addresses off in the Airport. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: SSD
On Feb 3, 2010, at 8:27 PM, Len Gerstel wrote: On Feb 1, 2010, at 3:24 AM, Ed Grey wrote: On Jan 31, 10:33 am, iJohn zjboyguard-ggro...@yahoo.com wrote: On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 1:41 AM, Ed Grey edwg...@gmail.com wrote: Are there any SSD's that plug into a PCI slot? That would be very handy for a desktop machine, and would avoid taking a hard drive connector. I've seen PCIe, but I don't remember whether or not I've seen any PCI. I think what you're asking is more about what SATA PCI controllers/adapters are available which will work in your (PowerPC?) Mac, no? No, I mean a solid state drive that plugs directly into a PCI slot. Here is the closest I could semi-quickly find. It is for 2.5 pata (not sata). There may be a sata version, but most likely it will be PCIe, not regular pci. http://www.sonnettech.com/product/tempohd.html You attach an old laptop HD onto this card, then plug the card into a pci slot. It also includes a ata/133 connector so you can plug in 2 large ata drives into it. Sonnet's price is $70. Len Thats interesting, it only supports the G4 MDD and up. The slots are pretty much the same as in a DA, Quicksilver, GE, Sawtooth, and Yosemite, right? -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: SSD
On Feb 3, 2010, at 9:18 PM, Len Gerstel wrote: On Feb 3, 2010, at 11:09 PM, Kasey Smith wrote: On Feb 3, 2010, at 8:27 PM, Len Gerstel wrote: On Feb 1, 2010, at 3:24 AM, Ed Grey wrote: Here is the closest I could semi-quickly find. It is for 2.5 pata (not sata). There may be a sata version, but most likely it will be PCIe, not regular pci. http://www.sonnettech.com/product/tempohd.html You attach an old laptop HD onto this card, then plug the card into a pci slot. It also includes a ata/133 connector so you can plug in 2 large ata drives into it. Sonnet's price is $70. Len Thats interesting, it only supports the G4 MDD and up. The slots are pretty much the same as in a DA, Quicksilver, GE, Sawtooth, and Yosemite, right? Re read the specs. Mac Compatibility Power Mac G4 (all models except Cube and Mirrored Drive Doors) Power Mac G5 (with PCI or PCI-X slots) Mac OS® X Version 10.5, 10.4, or 10.3 Don't know why it does not support the MDD Len Oops, misread that. Anyway, im wondering while it wont work in a G3... -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Question: What Are They?
On Jan 31, 2010, at 8:11 PM, Doug McNutt wrote: At 20:54 -0600 1/31/10, Stephen Conrad wrote: I have 3 things you plug into your computer that look like USB on one end. The other end has 6 pins and a black square pin in the middle Two are a light purple, one is green (1 2 are purple, #3 is green) 1) Has a KB pic near the pin plugin end and a 3 prong thing near the other end 2) - (arrow) on the pin end and a KB on the other end 3) Mouse on the pin end and 3 prong thing near the other end It sounds like an adapter for a Windoze keyboard to a USB port. Almost surely not operational on a Mac. I have a belkin one here that has a keyboard and a mouse input and it works fine on Mac. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Question: What Are They?
On Jan 31, 2010, at 9:43 PM, Dana Collins wrote: more than likely, your cables were issued with an older PC right at the transition period into USB. Or the device itself, and PC still hasn't made it out of PS/2... -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: G5 dually but only one processor shows up on sys prof
On Jan 28, 2010, at 10:28 AM, ah...clem wrote: hi listers, - i have a G5 dual 2.0 tower (build date 12/04), but system profiler says the computer has one processor, ie, one of them is dead. how do i find out which one is the good one and which one is the bad one? i don't have the AHT disk for this machine. i tried removing one then the other, but the computer will not power on unless both are installed. all advice appreciated. Repeat posing doesn't help you get any more replies. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: G5 dually but only one processor shows up on sys prof
On Jan 28, 2010, at 7:28 PM, ah...clem wrote: On Jan 28, 5:29 pm, Kasey Smith kasm...@gmail.com wrote: Repeat posing doesn't help you get any more replies. well, i don't assume that no reply means no one knows. maybe the some who knows missed my first post because he/she has a life. so i guess i will swap them and see what happens, 'cause i didn't try that yet. tho i'm not holding out much hope. so if anyone here cares to hear the outcome of my earthshaking experiment, i'll be back as soon as the results are in. cheers. I'm sorry about that, I was just trying to help... kinda. Im sorry if i sounded rude. D: -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Re:
On Dec 29, 2009, at 4:03 PM, John Musbach wrote: This looks like spam, nannies -- Best Regards, John Musbach Yes, where are the nannies here? -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Why are you (still) using PowerPC-based Macs?
On Jan 24, 2010, at 11:47 AM, Bruce Johnson wrote: On Jan 24, 2010, at 12:05 AM, Mac User #330250 wrote: Are there any free Mac games out there that will play nicely on my G3 BW? I'm running Mac OS X 10.4.11 Tiger if that matters. Glider Pro: http://homepage.mac.com/calhoun/Glider%20PRO.html A very very classic Mac game. -- Bruce Johnson Wherever you go, there you are B. Banzai, PhD Thanks for the game, its really fun! :D -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Why are you (still) using PowerPC-based Macs?
On Jan 27, 2010, at 2:08 PM, Mac User #330250 wrote: -- Original message -- Subject: Re: Why are you (still) using PowerPC-based Macs? Date:Samstag 23 Januar 2010N From:Kasey Smith kasm...@gmail.com To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com On Jan 23, 2010, at 3:59 AM, Mac User #330250 wrote: -- Original message -- I'm also using some 3rd party drivers (kext, kernel extensions): ATIcellerator II 1.0.6b NTFS-3G 2004.04.04 with MacFUSE HPIJS 3.9.2 (updated HP printer drivers for CUPS, by the Linux Foundation) and the Wester Digital external HDD software for My Passport. Be careful with ATicellerator, i once completely crashed my G3/400 here. (I also run Tiger on mine, and a tip, instead of using GIMP, grab a copy of Photoshop Elements 2.0, its not free but it has teh same amount of plugins, if not more, and you can probably find it cheap nowadays) Thanks, I've installed ATIcellerator just so I /could/ alter the frequencies. I didn't do that until now. GIMP does it for me right now, but if I should have to work more with pictures than I do now (very very seldom!) I will take Photoshop Elements 2.0 into consideration. Thanks for the hint. Cheers, Andreas aka Mac User #330250 I would like to mention that the reason i have Elements 2.0 is because it was at my local thrift store. I only have expereince witht he slowness of GIMP. Also, instead of MS Office or OpenOffice i use iWork '05 and AppleWorks6 (AppleWorks has no powerpoint compatability...) -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: wireless connection issues
Go to http://192.168.0.1/ in your web browser and the settings will be there. If that address won't work, try http://192.168.1.1/ Also, turn off Distribute IPs on either the modem or the router, i suggest the router in this case. On Jan 27, 2010, at 8:11 PM, Da'Birdman wrote: I have ATT Uverse service for high speed internet, and the wired part of the system seems to work very well. The problem I'm experiencing is with the wireless part of the gateway. Our house is only a year old and we had a nexus built into one of the closets upstairs. The 2Wire784 gateway we got from ATT has very limited range and seems frankly very slow. My wife's Windoze machine sees it as only a 811.b network. I decided to install a Buffalo G Wireless router downstream and it helped but service is still sparodic. I just picked up an Airport Extreme N router off FleBay the other day and it rocks, but wireless service is still not dependable, even in the same room with the router. The signal strength is off the charts, but sometimes the wireless connections jsut sputters. I'm wondering if these issues are due to the router behind a router problem. When I hooked up the second routers, I got the 2Wire screen regarding the Router Behind Router dilemma. It offered to resolve the problem, apparently using DMZPlus Mode. Apparently, this is less than optimum, and if my service is any indication, I have to agree. Could this be the source of my problems? Is there a way to shut down the wireless capability of the 2Wire Gateway and just use the Airport Router. Any feedback you have would be appreciated. Thanking you in advance, Scott Birdwell DeFalco's Home Wine Beer Supplies Houston TX www.defalcos.com -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Why are you (still) using PowerPC-based Macs?
On Jan 26, 2010, at 4:26 AM, coolr...@comcast.net wrote: It's a iMac G5. There's a hack to allow the video port to support extended desktop mode and not just be mirrored. The hack works with Leopard, Tiger and Classic. It can be found here: http://rutemoeller.com/mp/ibook/ibook_e.html Rick On Jan 25, 2010, at 6:17 PM, Kasey Smith wrote: On Jan 25, 2010, at 2:05 PM, coolr...@comcast.net wrote: The only Mac I ever had that was cutting edge was a 512K that I bought new. I've always been behind the times but they're still powerful machines and get the job done. Heck yeah I'd like to have a new Mac but what can it do that I can't do already? Or need to to do? I have a small network at home. A G5 iMac for web, email, etc., a BW that's tricked up (1GHz accelerator, max RAM, SCSI card, extra hard drives, etc.) for Pro Tools and a 450MHz G3 iMac that I bought at a yard sale for $10 that I use as a print server. They all run Tiger though I have a Leopard partition on the G5 and can boot the BW into Tiger or OS9 depending on my needs. Both the G5 and the BW run two displays. I also have a totally maxed out IIci that would have cost $25K in 1990 that I use as a MIDI controller for an old version of Performer for some vintage MIDI files that I have. The IIci runs System 7.1 and has a Nubus (remember that?) Ethernet card and is connected to the network so I can back it up. I have $70 in the IIci. I know someday I'll have to upgrade to Intel just as I had to upgrade from OS9 a few years ago but for now everything is working. As Bruce quoted the old axiom, if it ain't broke, don't fix it. r Lol, i thoink you mean PowerMac G5, not iMac. The only iMac to ever have an expansion slot were the very first (Rev.A) tray-load iMacs. Also, i run dual displays on my G3 BW too, with an extra rage 128. Blargh, for some reason it made me think that he put in another video card. I knew about the hack but i spaced the fact that the imac now has a video connector that can do more than mirroring. (My newest iMac is the Summer 2 Indigo iMac DV -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: G4 dual 500 Panther to Leopard upgrade
On Jan 24, 2010, at 9:52 PM, Chance Reecher wrote: Yes, you can use the MacBook's installer just fine. It's only locked as to the Mac it will install from, not the drive it will install to. Start the G4 up in Target Disk Mode, boot the MacBook from the installer, and choose the G4's HD to install to. I've done it before, it works fine. No need for XPostFacto or Open Firmware modifications. On Sun, Jan 24, 2010 at 11:39 PM, Kasey Smith kasm...@gmail.com wrote: You cant use the MacBook's installer, it is model locked. Also, you will need to do some trickery to get Leo to install, but i think you can use XPostFacto4 to make it work. Also, look on ebay for Leo DVDs. I would get a full install DVD, but thats just me. Oh, i want to mention that a MacBook installer might be x86 inly and not install the proper files for the PPC machine. Well, if your installing from the MacBook, it wont. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: New system, but can you save the old bookmarks and Cookies?
On Jan 25, 2010, at 4:16 PM, Kris Tilford wrote: On Jan 25, 2010, at 4:38 PM, Kasey Smith wrote: Why not just do an upgrade install? Upgrade is what you do from a lower system version to a higher system version, for example you upgrade from any Jaguar version to any Panther version. Upgrade installs generally preserve system settings. Archive install is when you're downgrading an installation. For example, let's say you've got a 10.5 Leopard installer DVD and you're running an updated version of Leopard 10.5.8. In this instance, you need to do an Archive installation to preserve your user accounts and settings, and the you'll need to run Software Update again because the Archive installation will be a 10.5.0 installation, and you'll want to get back to 10.5.8. Upgrade will take you UP in system version. Archive will take you DOWN in system version. Which you chose depends upon what system version you're using, and what version installer disc you have. I know this, but Jonas here is going up, and an upgrade seems to be a better option. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Why are you (still) using PowerPC-based Macs?
On Jan 25, 2010, at 2:05 PM, coolr...@comcast.net wrote: The only Mac I ever had that was cutting edge was a 512K that I bought new. I've always been behind the times but they're still powerful machines and get the job done. Heck yeah I'd like to have a new Mac but what can it do that I can't do already? Or need to to do? I have a small network at home. A G5 iMac for web, email, etc., a BW that's tricked up (1GHz accelerator, max RAM, SCSI card, extra hard drives, etc.) for Pro Tools and a 450MHz G3 iMac that I bought at a yard sale for $10 that I use as a print server. They all run Tiger though I have a Leopard partition on the G5 and can boot the BW into Tiger or OS9 depending on my needs. Both the G5 and the BW run two displays. I also have a totally maxed out IIci that would have cost $25K in 1990 that I use as a MIDI controller for an old version of Performer for some vintage MIDI files that I have. The IIci runs System 7.1 and has a Nubus (remember that?) Ethernet card and is connected to the network so I can back it up. I have $70 in the IIci. I know someday I'll have to upgrade to Intel just as I had to upgrade from OS9 a few years ago but for now everything is working. As Bruce quoted the old axiom, if it ain't broke, don't fix it. r Lol, i thoink you mean PowerMac G5, not iMac. The only iMac to ever have an expansion slot were the very first (Rev.A) tray-load iMacs. Also, i run dual displays on my G3 BW too, with an extra rage 128. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: New system, but can you save the old bookmarks and Cookies?
On Jan 25, 2010, at 5:49 PM, Jonas Lopez wrote: --- On Mon, 1/25/10, Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu wrote: From: Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu Subject: New system, but can you save the old bookmarks and Cookies? To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Date: Monday, January 25, 2010, 3:38 PM Upgrade is what you do from a lower system version to a higher system version, for example you upgrade from any Jaguar version to any Panther version. Upgrade installs generally preserve system settings. Archive install is when you're downgrading an installation, No. An upgrade installs the new system files over the old ones. An Archive and Install creates a new system, then moves the old user data and files to it. it works perfectly well in an either direction. This is my preferred method of upgrading a system. In 10.6, this is the only way, although of course Apple chooses to confuse the issue by calling it 'Upgrade'.--Bruce Johnson Nice discussion but not the issue - what I am trying to do is like upgrading a G4 to a G5 or some other change in the Mboard that is questionable and so I do need to manually find the cookies and bookmarks and preserve them, then completley wipe the hd removing the exhisting partitions that were on it. I can not archive and install upgrade or downgrade - so where are these files and what is the likely names of them. Thanks. JML In that case, use Migration Assistant (in /Application/Utilities) You can copy all your files and settings over to the new Mac over firewire this way. \o/ -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Why are you (still) using PowerPC-based Macs?
On Jan 24, 2010, at 8:55 AM, Dan wrote: At 3:16 AM -0500 1/24/2010, Miguel Garcia Gell wrote: Every body talk about what's is inside of a PPC's family BUT!...What about OUTSIDE?...I'm a industrial designer and let me tell you... Apple's Power PC are the most beautiful, equilibrating and gorgeous design of this century... PLUS all the good's and bad stuff of you can say...FOR ME, this classics are like a necessary furniture at home(I have 3PPC already from iMac,Digital A. to MDD800). Thank you Steve Job and he's TEAM...they are artist!!! I thought it was funny to see how the other companies jumped on copying the iMac. Not crazy about the iMac G4 design (too many with limp necks). But I really like the rest of the iMac designs over the years. Very cool. sigh. Now if only they were easier to repair. Good industrial design should, IMO, include easy-open / access features. Yea, I know - Jobs is anti-user upgrade. But geeze - 90% of the bench time should NOT be taken up by just opening and closing a machine! The Power Mac G5 / Mac Pro box... love it. But it's a bit stale now, so I've been wondering where Apple will go with it. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. It's called the Slot-Loading iMacs ;) -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Why are you (still) using PowerPC-based Macs?
On Jan 24, 2010, at 8:55 AM, Dan wrote: At 3:16 AM -0500 1/24/2010, Miguel Garcia Gell wrote: Every body talk about what's is inside of a PPC's family BUT!...What about OUTSIDE?...I'm a industrial designer and let me tell you... Apple's Power PC are the most beautiful, equilibrating and gorgeous design of this century... PLUS all the good's and bad stuff of you can say...FOR ME, this classics are like a necessary furniture at home(I have 3PPC already from iMac,Digital A. to MDD800). Thank you Steve Job and he's TEAM...they are artist!!! I thought it was funny to see how the other companies jumped on copying the iMac. Not crazy about the iMac G4 design (too many with limp necks). But I really like the rest of the iMac designs over the years. Very cool. sigh. Now if only they were easier to repair. Good industrial design should, IMO, include easy-open / access features. Yea, I know - Jobs is anti-user upgrade. But geeze - 90% of the bench time should NOT be taken up by just opening and closing a machine! The Power Mac G5 / Mac Pro box... love it. But it's a bit stale now, so I've been wondering where Apple will go with it. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. err, for the easy opening -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
